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Tuesday, September 27, 2016

Liz Cheney has announced that she will challenge three-term senator Mike Enzi (R-WY) in Wyoming’s Republican primary next year. Despite her high profile, Cheney will face an uphill battle; in both 2002 and 2008, Enzi was easily re-elected with over 70 percent of the vote.

Cheney is not going to let Enzi’s popularity affect her aspiration to represent Wyoming. To the chagrin of many of her GOP colleagues, Cheney has been hitting the campaign trail — popping up at chicken dinners and cattle growers’ meetings across the state. As rumors of a Republican “civil war” swirl, all eyes are on the Wyoming Senate primary, which may be a problem for the gaffe-prone Cheney.

As bloggers wait for the sure-to-come extreme comments from Liz Cheney, we thought it prudent to look back at her past zingers. Here five quotes that show that Cheney would fit right in with congressional Republicans:

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  • Carol Dijkhuyzen

    Your father is the disgraced VP ever!Liz you are nothing but a piece of garbage like father like daughter.In your dreams …Senator?No way.

    • itsfun

      What do you expect her say about her dad?

  • Sand_Cat

    Another delusional, insane idiot from the GOP.

  • merl1

    She was Daddy’s fifth deferment, right?

    • adler56

      Not sure he’s her daddy- I thought he had to get someone to get his lesbian wife pregnant so he wouldn’t be drafted.

  • itsfun

    I think she is wrong about Sarah Palin being more qualified than Biden. However Palin is probably more qualified than a neighborhood organizer.
    The birth certificate I saw on the Internet has Obama’s father as a citizen of Kenya. Was there even a Kenya when Obama was born?

    • ayungclas

      You’ve got to be kidding “itsfun”.

    • adler56

      There’s help for some mental health issues- BUT not for yours. Inpatient for you would help us a lot.

    • highpckts

      Oh please! Again with the citizen thing?

    • JDavidS

      I thought the “birther” thing was dead… kinda like whatever that thing is on top of Forrest Trumps’ head.

    • idamag

      Obama was not born in Kenya. He wasn’t born in the Unites States, either. A nurse from my area was abducted and attended his birth. She was taken up into a space ship and made to deliver the baby. A baby, who incidentally, was not even born on this earth.

  • Eleanore Whitaker

    Awwww…How sweet….Herr Cheney’s spawn is acting like Daddy’s savior. Too late honey. Your old man was THE worst US VP in US History and your sidling up to clean up his reputation is not not not going to work no matter how Herr Cheney hopes to reclaim his evil regime.

    And just where on the totem is Wyoming? If Bush and Cheney weren’t tied to Big Oil and their military industrialist cronies, taxpayers wouldn’t be paying for those 11 red state military bases any card carrying terrorist wouldn’t be able to find with a ultra sonic GPS system. Wyoming? Let the coyotes eat it for their next meal.

    • Mulligatonney

      There it is again – the true, tolerant socialist philosophy coming through… You people cannot help yourselves – that is one of the most contradictory statements I can remember on this site – tell me what is tolerant about these comments? What is it that would attract a person looking for a philosophy they can believe in and support?

      Don’t let facts or history get in the way of your liberal circle-jerk here. Even a casual look at OBama’s past would have caused a person of average intellect to vote for anyone other than this guy and Biden…. unless they are marxist, communist, or socialist leaning themselves like like OBama many of his Democrat colleagues.

      I don’t get it…. You liberals criticize the right up one side and down the other for their alleged closed-mindedness, their intolerant, violent nature and uneducated, redneck, hillbilly ways of thinking, and then one of you writes some moronic, empty-headed twaddle like this while the rest cheer you on.

      You with your scornful and incendiary red state comments and your “Let the coyotes eat it…”

      You are worse than the people you mock – all of you. Because you claim to know better. This only underscores the illogical, unmoored philosophy of the liberal…if you can call it a philosophy at all. You follow your religion more blindly than any of those you accuse.

      “Professing to be wise, they became fools”… there’s a bit of conservative sand in your liberal machine. That statement is out of the Bible.

      • highpckts

        All the more reason to ignore you! Anyone who has to quote the Bible is extreme in their thinking simply because they have no answers or original thoughts of their own!

        • Mulligatonney

          So – was that an original thought?

          Caught in your own trap.

          Brain donor…

          • highpckts

            Pretty original considering who I’m answering!!

          • Mulligatonney

            There it is! Another original thought!

            Who can stand before the time-tested “I’m rubber, you’re glue, gambit”…? Brilliant! Almost genius!

            How masterful and original you are in saying absolutely nothing.
            You qualify for president, with that kind of originality!

            At least – you easily qualify to replace No. 44.

            Not any of the others – yes, you guessed correctly – No.44 is by far the stupidest one, as well as the most clandestine and racist. Oh, and yes – communist and anti-American.

          • highpckts

            Wow! You just managed, in 4 paragraphs, to say NOTHING!!

          • Mulligatonney

            Now you have added your inability to count to your growing list of things you are too stupid to do.

            Although, I will admit – you could be a poster child for the Gun Control lobby.

      • Eleanore Whitaker

        Hate to bash your theories on socialism…but…I’m not a socialist…I’m a huge big time progressive…and I DID my homework before I voted for Obama…twice.

        I am not buffaloed by your pathetic need to draw from the Bible. The most Christian men and women in red states are bullies. How do I know? I have relatives in Texas and NC. So..please…don’t tell me what I know as only a hard liner narrow mind of the right knows best how to do.

        Liz Cheney is saving her old man’s name. Granted, she has the right. What she doesn’t have the right to do is to criticize the sitting president when her old man was THE most corrupt Halliburton CEO who taxed Americans so Halliburton would earn $352 billion (according to the present government records –a fact you’ll never bother to even check.) in profits.

        We all know why the porkers in red states don’t want healthcare reform…their states never spend a dime of their tax revenues paid for by their taxpayers and live off the federal tax revenues for welfare, phony disability and unemployment. Red state Big Businesses live off these same federal tax subsidies…sorry if we blue staters are no longer able to hand over our incomes to feed a bunch of lazy DogPatch Bible Thumpers who accept barely living wages and then have the gall to live off MY state’s taxes.

        Liz Cheney is no Hillary Clinton…no Wendy David …no Elizabeth Warren and is certainly in no position to run for any office other than chief supervisor of Herr Cheney’s brown shirts.

        • Mulligatonney

          Okay, so you’re a “huge progressive”… that means you are fat as well as stupid. The communists started calling themselves “progressive” in the ’30’s and ’40’s… They feel the need to rename themselves every couple of decades, so that it is harder for people to understand what they really think.

          It’s just another attempt at re-packaging the same old 1984 truism: “All animals are equal. But some are more equal than others”…

          I will allow that big government “progressives” (communists) are true idealists – they cling to a religion that will never work they way they have been brainwashed to think it will. And it doesn’t seem to matter to most of them how many times reality slaps them in the face with the truth of their self contradiction. They keep signing up for their spanking…

          How about a quote from Ben Franklin? He was supposedly a “deist” according to you socialists – it is difficult to find anyone during that time in America’s history who did not respect God. This is in direct contradiction to your incoherent tripe…

          “I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it.In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.”–Benjamin Franklin–

          It would be comical, if not so pathetic – to listen to people like you try so hard to convince people of your beliefs as you simultaneously denigrate them for theirs…

          That is the religion of hypocrisy…it has been going on for thousands of years.

          There is nothing “progressive” about you.

          • Elliot J. Stamler

            Keep it up–people like you with your foul mouthes calling everyone you disagree with socialists, communists, and what not, are digging the grave of the Republican Party which you’ve taken over. You will wind up like your slandering hero, Joe McCarthy did; disgraced, discredited, DEFEATED…just like the last two elections showed.

          • Mulligatonney

            The only thing that the last two elections revealed was just how pervasive unbridled ignorance and selfishness has become in our country. The fact that the Republicans could manage no better a candidate than McCain in 2008 speaks volumes about how pathetic American politics have become on the right as well.

            And you speak of foul mouths? The language and sentiments expressed on this site are worse than you would find among the dockworkers and longshoremen on the waterfront…

            OBama is a communist. He signed a membership document with the New Party of Chicago (a communist organization) when he was running for the Illinois state Senate. What more do you need? Look it up for yourself. Is it possible that you are that stupid?

            If you voted for him, then you are complicit in the destruction he is wreaking upon this country.

          • Eleanore Whitaker

            Aw….what’s the matter cowboy…Big Oil not getting the profits you hoped? Too bad….Rick The Pretty Hairboy is a womanizing Dickhead.

          • Eleanore Whitaker

            The only other by-product of the Big Oil Bois is foul mouths…roflmao…They just never know when to close those oil soaked maws.

          • idamag

            Yes they are. I don’t believe In political parties. I think they divide and weaken our democracy. However, statements, like mulli makes, gives me an impression of what a Republican is and I used to respect the Republican Party – not any more.

          • RobertCHastings

            Once again you confute “socialism” with “communism”, two terms of which you apparently know nothing. I have suggested to you in the past to look them up in a dictionary of philosophical terms before you use them again, a suggestion which you apparently did not wish to take, which only accentuates your stupidity and your inability to reason or think rationally, and distinctly identifies you as a conservative echoer of the Limbaugh cant.

          • Mulligatonney

            I am not certain that I “confute” anything – I’m not even sure what “confute” means… Is that like – a Sarah Palin word? A combination of “confuse” and “refute” maybe…? Does that mean you are as stupid as you liberals make Sarah out to be?
            Maybe one of you intellectually superior communists can tell me that…
            I believe I said OBama is a communist. Which he is. He signed up with the New Party in Chicago when he was running for the Illinois State Senate. Look it up, you ignorant bastard. You socialist, communist, liberal, Marxist, Democrat (pick one – they really are all fairly interchangeable these days, with a few minor deviations), ideologues should at least TRY to practice a little intellectual honesty.
            Follow your own accusatory advice. Look it up. Research it. Tell me what you find.
            In the true spirit of the modern day self proclaimed “progressive” (communist), liberal raconteurs such as yourself simply love to hear yourselves talk. You talk about “research” when you either lack the desire or curiosity to actually do it yourself. You do not really want to know the truth. You just want to exercise your mouth in a venue where most of the members of this liberal circle-jerk will validate your misguided statements.
            Look for the truth – and be honest when you find it, you nutless little pussy.

          • Eleanore Whitaker

            From a big bull male from TX mouth to God’s ears…and back again…Stand by world ….the Texan has spoken…no other voices need to be heard….And he wants us to believe he isn’t a Bull Male? He makes the long horns jealous of that swagger and boom!

          • idamag

            I guess we have to understand him if he is from Texas. They have their own text books in the schools as they don’t like what history says and rewrite it. They drag people to death behind pickups and elect Gohmert. And then there is Perry, oh, never mind, he isn’t evil, just not brilliant.

          • RobertCHastings

            Can’t say anything intelligent, so shoot from the lip. Wow! I’m impressed!

          • Mulligatonney

            Do the research, butt-face…
            Tell me what you find.
            OBama is a communist. Look up OBama and New Party.
            This is something the Russians know well. As well as would you, if you dared to practice even a modicum of intellectual honesty.
            But you don’t want to see, do you?
            Might inspire you to sign up for membership in the Sarah Palin Fan Club.
            She is smarter than you are…at least she wants to know the truth.

          • RobertCHastings

            I joined the SDS fifty years ago, doesn’t make me a communist. Did you find “confute” yet? Did you look up communist, socialist, fascist? Palin has no desire to learn the truth. Perhaps, once you realize that you actually are throwing around terms you don’t understand or are using inappropriately, you might start looking for the truth.

          • Mulligatonney

            I could have bet on something like that… SDS was in the top 10 of the USSR’s “easiest to infiltrate” list. They brainwashed and intellectually sodomized your undisciplined, mushy little acid-washed brains starting in the 60’s and continued on into the 70’s. You were in the universities, of course, many of you planning to be teachers. You were some of the easiest targets on the Soviet’s list. And there were many, back in those days… Just look at Mr. Choom, your hero (mentor, Mr. Frank Marshall Davis) – that ‘noid communist that you confuters put into the White House in exchange for the feel of the pacifier in your selfish little pallets and the communist “intellectual” phallus in your behind. He likely hasn’t even realized yet that he was groomed by communists to be a communist. He’s just wondering where he’s going to rob the people with his next vacation or golf game… The biggest chameleon in American history. And his handlers play on… While he prattles on about how he “could have been Trayvon”… He is an embarrassment to the nation and should be an embarrassment to even the most hardcore progressive, liberal, socialist, communist or student for a “democratic” society… This is what destroys your credibility. Your determination to hang on to this impostor even as he plunges you and your country over the cliff.

            And you are the one using terms in the wrong context – you confused confuter… Same thing you liberals called Sarah Palin stupid for doing – you were really looking for a different word, but didn’t take the time to review your text before hitting the return button. Now you pretend that it was your original thought and intention to use that word…. but you made the cardinal mistake of all pretenders – you used it in the wrong context, you colossally obtuse charlatan…

            …how does one overwhelm the philosophy of socialism with an argument in favor of communism? That’s like trying to put out a grease fire with gasoline.

            You ignorant puddle of hammered monkey spunk.

          • 324516

            you know man invented the clothes hanger its a pity your mom didnt use one

          • RobertCHastings

            Apparently you couldn’t find your dictionary.

          • RobertCHastings

            The word “confute” appears in the Webster’s Seventh New Collegiate Dictionary, a standard reference for many writers of whatever level. An accepted definition is “confound”, a synonym of which is “confuse”. QED.
            The term “progressive” appears in the same source, and there is no mention made of being similar to or associated with such political philosophies as socialism, Marxism, or communism. QED.
            As for the “raconteur” encomium, I am honored.

          • Mulligatonney

            I realize that this may a bit sophisticated for you, but you were being lampooned – but remain so impressed with yourself for using “confute” that you miss the entire point of the satire…

            Once more – you used it in the wrong context. Then you were compared to Palin, who often is accused by you “progressive religious fanatics” of exactly the same thing. I made fun of you for using a hybrid word to characterize something you didn’t understand.

            Your comment: “Once again you confute “socialism” with “communism”…”
            My response: This is a nonsensical statement.
            My conclusion: You are a stupid bastard who made a mistake in his use of the word and are now trying to pretend that you knew what you were doing.

            That pretty much makes you a vintage liberal, progressive, socialist, Marxist, communist, or whatever you morons are calling yourselves these days. You just love to hear yourselves talk and quite often are caught in your own snare.

            Then you attempted to invent a lie so that you won’t feel so stupid…This makes you either a liar or simply stupid.

            I suspect both…

            I also suspect that you know at least a little of the history of the Communist Party, those sneaky little bastards – when they came to the United States of America, back at the turn of the century, they rebranded themselves and called themselves ‘Progressives’… Now its ‘fashionable’ to call oneself a “progressive” because it sounds like you are so much more sophisticated and erudite than the common “hillbillies and rednecks” that comprise the red states, yes? Kind of like the judgmental Christians that you (insert nom du jour here) so despise…

            Communists change what they call themselves every so often, so they can provide themselves a modicum of cover – like cockroaches. They don’t want the spotlight shone on them too brightly, which is why they operate under the guise of many front organizations that they have created in the United States.

            …organizations like ACORN – there’s an interesting study for you “progressive intellectuals”… It is one of those front organizations, and there are many.

            Look up ACORN and you find OBama and New Party. Look up OBama and you find ACORN and New Party.

            He is a communist. And so are you. Maybe unwittingly, but a communist by association and stupidity. One willing to trade his freedom for a philosophy proven by history to be self-annihilating…

            Whatever you are calling yourself today – your “nom du jour”, as it were…

          • Independent1

            As you spew all those lies and distortions, keep in mind that many of us prefer to take our opinions from normal, rational people like well known professors in well respected schools like Harvard. So if we don’t believe your mindliss jibberish which is based on one lie after another, maybe you’ll understand why when the majority of us posting here on the National Memo prefer to believe CREDIBLE people. Here are some TRUE assessments of Barak Obama (and keep in mind – this guy you’re bashing graduated Magna cum laude from Harvard):

            Law School Professor Laurence H. Tribe ’62 said during the presidential campaign four years ago. “He was definitely one of the leaders and shining lights in our year,” Adkins said. “He knew exactly what he wanted and went about getting it done,” Law School professor David B. Wilkins ’77 said during Obama’s first campaign for president. “He was the kind of
            person who you knew was destined for greatness.”

            Adkins describes Obama as a bright, engaged student with impressive intellectual ability. .During an introductory
            constitutional law class taught by professor Kathleen M. Sullivan, who now teaches at Stanford, Obama would consistently engage Sullivan with clear, pointed questions that challenged her interpretations. Students, therefore, dubbed the course “the Obama-Sullivan Debate Class,” Adkins said.

            “He was clearly an enormously bright fellow, who wasn’t arrogant,” Miner said. In fact, Obama was eager to share recognition with his fellow students and strove to include his fellow students in dialogue, instead of merely showing off his
            superior knowledge. Obama “wanted faculty and other students to see that other people in the classroom had good and interesting and provocative ideas,” Ogletree said.
            Obama felt that other students contributed to a collective answer, formulated from the layered input of all the class members. “He was as much a teaching assistant as he was a student,” Ogletree said. Obama could have pursued a career in academia had he not chosen to dive into politics, Olgetree said.

            So if we tend to accept your comments as pure GARBAGE, it’s because that’s exactly what your comments are GARBAGE. I’m sure you’ve heard the comment -Garbage in Garbage out – maybe you need to stop feeding on so much garbage yourself. Especially since you appear to live in the state that’s the cesspool of America.

          • Mulligatonney

            Yeah – and they gave him the Nobel Prize for – what was it again? He had not been in office a year and had accomplished nothing except for groveling before a couple of Saudi kings…

            But let’s not forget what triggered that liberal love story you just wrote for Barak OBammunist…

            The point at issue is whether he was a member of the New Party of Chicago. I said he was, and called him for being a signed member of the Communist Party. And he was…

            You liberals answered with – no response. Not one of you. Typical.

            Instead, you chose to go on about some liberal professor Laurence Tribe he had in college who lost more cases than he won in his career and was most noted for his extensive support of liberal causes and animal rights. He devoted a massive effort in support of Barak’s campaign and served as fund raiser and legal advisor as well.

            Professor Wilkins is another of that phylum – another black liberal from Chicago…. How tough is it to get an endorsement from him?

            SO WHAT? Getting an endorsement from guys from your own team is like getting a recommendation from NAMBLA for a babysitter for your kid.

            And don’t forget – Bush got a degree from Harvard with a higher GPA then the “intellectual” John Kerry – so what’s it going to be? OBama is as stupid as Bush, the guy you commies love to call “stupid”?

            The trouble again, with the entire spectrum of communist to liberal – is that it is self contradictory, and therefore, self-defeating…

            Oh, and yes – noteworthy also is that I didn’t call you any names in this entire response, did I, butt-face?

          • 324516

            where are getting this so call report not on any site i visited oh did you know that men had invented the coat hanger pity your mom did advail herself of one

          • idamag

            He might be a functionally illiterate. They can see words, but cannot process them.

          • Eleanore Whitaker

            Boi are the “ignernts” out today..I’m probably skinnier than you’ll ever be…I don’t live in the conservative lazy ass state. In NJ, you move asses out of bed at 5 AM because as we NJ people all love to say, “It’s the early birds who get the worms.” And we get so far past those red state worms they are left breathless.

            So, you neoconphonies think equality is a “truism?” Wow…So do most white supremacists…you know that fat shaven headed fat gut angry white males, fists pumped and chests puffed like Zeppelins? Get real…I’m pretty, brainy and a well known published author and SEO writer of more than 3,000 online articles I’ve ghost written. What’s your claim to fame besides, grits and gravy, leering at Daisy Mae’s bazongas you call a “job” and then living off MY federal tax dollars.

            Your post shows just how low some men in this country will go to make their dopey ASSumptions. But do keep going, you’re only validating my posts with your “ignernce.”

          • Mulligatonney

            Actually, you are simply and unwittingly validating the self-contradiction of the modern-day “progressive” (wink) I really meant communist… What is “progressive” about that twaddle you just posted? You sound more like Goebbels attempting to justify the occupation of Czechoslovakia. Or a Spanish Inquisitor trying to justify the “actions of the court”. Fat Eleanor, people do not exist on this planet anywhere who are more backward than you.

            Now that you have been drawn out to actually detail who you really are, please tell me how that is more attractive to a potential recruit than the people you slander?
            Yeah, you New Jersey folks are so “progressive” and productive that it took a conservative governor to salvage your economy and pull your sorry “early bird” asses out of the fiscal vortex. While people like you the liberals and unions whimpered all the way to economic responsibility.
            I would say you got the worm, alright – while you were on all fours with your fat behind sticking straight up in the air. From your long-legged Mack Daddy OBama. And you are so bought in, such a starry-eyed cult member – that you actually believe him when he tells you that it feels good. And then beg for more….

          • Eleanore Whitaker

            Uh…I believe you won’t want to hear that it was Thomas Jefferson, a former president and huge conservative who established the first free college in VA…You can lay out all that right wing Male Bastion of Bull you want. As for Chris Christie…our property taxes are higher and we have less safety with all of his GOP cost cutting. He won’t make a second term…And…that puts him out of the running for president he is salivating over. You are a blatant racist….I love the president’s long legs…but you white bois out there are so afraid this president just might attract too many white women to his side and bois like the Stars and Bars loonies jes’ cain’t allow that…I am an American. I don’t go around bashing anyone until they’ve been proven in a court of law they deserve the bashing…Only stupid ass men do that. Men who are so jealous of this president those raisins in their jeans are smaller than ant dung.

          • Mulligatonney

            That is vintage liberalism…
            Elect a guy to do the tough work, then whimper when he reins in the unbridled debt you created.
            …the best you can manage is being a “ghost writer”? That is not surprising in the least. With the masterpiece of disconnected contradictions you just submitted, you can leave the “writer” part of that claim off the title. You are simply a ghost who likes long, black legs (and long, black other things, I suspect), if you’re not a closet lesbian who would secretly love to eat an entire box of “raisins” if you weren’t afraid that the bull dyke who straps you to your headboard so you can watch it perform atrocities upon a real woman wouldn’t toss you in a dumpster for being too manly during the times you drank out of the dog dish it just pissed in.
            But – in the final analysis, you liberals eventually run out of other people’s money and your government implodes… You wash your ass in your own drinking water, and then complain that it tastes like crap. Then, instead of cleaning it up yourself, you hire someone who is efficient, and spend the entire time he does the very thing you hired him to do complaining about how he is doing it.
            With that kind of thinking, you should move to Detroit. You might be able to get a job cleaning toilets in condemned buildings.
            You would be more comfortable there, where the culmination of thousands of desperate liberal experiments has resulted in over half the population running for higher ground.

          • idamag

            Eleanor, that ignorant, unwashed, functionally illiterate is not worth you, an obvious intelligent and critical thinker’s, responding to.

          • idamag

            You are just showing how much you don’t know.

          • Mulligatonney

            Well, madam…who can withstand that kind of intellectual power?

            Alright, alright – I surrender…
            …does that make me a Frenchman? Or maybe a queer?

            Possibly I am Trayvon, after all – just like your long-legged Mack Daddy Hussein OBamunist…

          • 324516

            HeY Ass am ablack man with lthe right to have agun I WILL BE MORE THEN HAPPY TO EXECISE MY RIGHT ON YOUR DUMB ASS ANYTIME IF YOU EVER MENTION THAT MURDERED CHILD NAME EVEN IN YOUR FUCKING DREAMS YOU NEED TO SHUT UP NOW .

          • Jim Myers

            Ah, yes. The “Tinkle Down” theory works so well for the middle class and the poor.

            So, why did the economy go in the crapper when George the Second and his trusty sidekick DICK were in power.

            After all, he did what he said he would. He cut taxes by Three and a half TRILLION Dollars. The vast majority of it going to the “Job Creators.”

            Who made Trillions of Dollars from two wars, along with the massive “WELFARE FOR THE WEALTHY” that was supposed to bring on a state of perpetual Nirvana.

            I think we all know how well that turned out.

        • idamag

          There is a reason Dick Cheney had the lowest approval rating of any politician – 5%. It doesn’t even seem strange to mulli that Haliburton and subsidiaries were given no-bid contracts after the unprecedented attack on Iraq.

      • mk4524

        I’m not a socialist, marxist, communit or a progressive or any other label you’re trying to pin on people who don’t agree with you.

        Unlike Dick Cheney, I served my country in uniform. For a man who never served in the military, he sure didn’t mind committing us to countless deployments supposedly to go after the Iraq because of their so-called connection to the Taliban (never mind they hated each other) and to go after so-called weapons of mass destruction. Remember how Dick Cheney said the war wouldn’t cost us much because we would turn on the oil fields in six months and Iraq would pay for the war. They didn’t even have an exit plan in what has become one of our most costly wars. A war we conducted and paying for it by lowering taxes. I remember World War II when all Americans made sacrifices to the war effort, a war that we actually won!

        I live in a Blue State and realize we pay more than our share in taxes to support the Red State in the bible belt.

        And yes, after much thought and research, I voted for Obama.

        • Mulligatonney

          You mean like… how Clinton and OBama served their country in uniform? You may have worn the uniform, but none of those guys did. And every president makes decisions with American lives and resources. And all of them lie. Look at all the lies OBama has told.

          Texas is a red state – they pay no income tax and the books are balanced. I think you are being very selective about your blanket tax statements. Blue states typically have huge inner city populations that take much of the tax money and many red states are fiscally sound.

          If you researched OBama and still voted for him, then you are complicit in his dismantling of the country. Mentored by Frank Marshall Davis (communist), member of Jeremiah Wright’s Anti American church, a member of the New Party in Chicago (a communist party), a community organizer and lawyer for ACORN (a communist front organization) and launching his political career in the living room of domestic terrorists, there is plenty of evidence to identify OBama as a communist. What more evidence do you need?

          So – if you decided to vote for him after “much thought and research”, then you either unwittingly – or purposely – chose this anti-American as your president. Either one makes you complicit.

          I suspect you are overselling the research you say you did. It is difficult to believe that he got a single vote from anyone who researched him. Of course, he WAS running against McCain in the first election. That’s still no excuse to elect a communist.

          Why do I say he was a communist? Because he is. His own signature is on the New Party of Chicago membership documents. Look it up. Do some research.

          • Eleanore Whitaker

            I researched Obama…You are a liar Mulligatunny….Let me guess…you were raised in DogPatch leered at Daisy Mae’s bazongas and called that work and then when your plantation owner decided you had to pay for your own food, you went straight to the DogPatch welfare office.

          • Eleanore Whitaker

            Texas is a red state? Don’t you mean dictatorship? The women in that state are horn swaggled and hog tied to the Big Oil Big Daddies aren’t they? And, stop with the lies…Your budget is balanced on the backs of the rest of our states. It’s why your Big Oil was handed $39 billion in just the last 3 years…Looks like it’s time to secede and sell Texas back to Meheeco…There’s enough illegals in Big Rich Texas, That Whole Other Country, doing the work the lazy ass cowboys who haven’t seen a cow or a puddle of cow flops since their great grandfather served it on silver platters to their wives. TX is a whole other country until it needs 49 other states taxes to fund its single industry…That’s on it’s way out by the way.

          • Mulligatonney

            If you researched OBama as you say, then you would already know that he is a member of the Communist Party – the New Party that includes that cesspool of human parasites called Chicago.
            You didn’t research that, did you? That makes you the liar, with or without the raisins.

            You are afraid of what you will find.
            That is why you did not research it.
            Because you don’t want to look.

          • Independent1

            So the books in Texas are balanced are they!! Just like the books of a vagrant that has nothing aside from a few bucks in his pocket. While they’ve been balancing the books they’ve rapidly turned Texas into the CESSPOOL OF THE NATION. And I say that because aside from creating jobs Rick Perry and his buddies have turned Texas into a state no self-respecting person would really want to live in, if they had the brains to take a look and see just how terrible it is: Texas ranks in the bottom five in comparison to every other state in America in virtually every measureable category aside from job creation. Let me see you stand up for some of these rankings clueless!!!!!!!!

            ·Texas is 49th in the country in tax revenues collected per capita and 50th in revenues spent.
            .Texas is 44th in tax progressivity, which means it collects most of its taxes from working people and it comes in 50th in the percent of its population that have a HS diploma.
            .Texas ranks 46th in the overall SAT scores it’s students get on entrance exams; and 49th in what it pays its teachers.
            .Texas ranks dead last (50th) in having the most people without health insurance and also dead last in the number of children covered by insurance.
            .Texas is 49th in the support it provides to women & children in the WIC program, and it leads the nation in teenage births.
            .Texas ranks 6th in the nation in the number of people living in poverty and 50th with regard to the affordability of homeowners insurance.
            .Texas ranks 45th in the overall health of its population and 47th with respect to mental health.
            .The quality of the highways in Texas is ranked 42nd and its parks and recreation facilities are ranked 48th and environmental protection 46th
            .Police protection in Texas is ranked 49th and government administration 50th.
            .Texas comes in 3rd in the nation in the number of public officials that are convicted for a crime; while being dead last in the percent of voters who turn out for elections.
            .Texas is 46th in the hourly earnings of its workers and 48th in the payout of worker’s comp benefits.
            .And Texas ranks as having the most polluted environment in the nation due to the many oil spills and all the toxic fumes spewed by its many refineries and coal-fired power plants.

            By what other measure does Texas have to turn up close to last before people realize that by moving there they’re simply moving to what is really the cesspool of the nation. And I’m also amazed, that with a dismal record like the above, Rick Perry would even consider running for president of the US???

          • Mulligatonney

            I don’t have time to research the “cut and paste” statistics you put up in your post… But I do know that 4.5 million people have moved to Texas in the last decade – they must have something going on… But they probably don’t take enough money from hard-working citizens and give it to lazy bastards like you “big city fags” do, so that is most likely the reason you “tolerant liberals” hate them and their state. Most of them like it just fine…

            I know a few other things about Texas…

            *There are approximately 2.6 million illegal aliens living there…
            *Texas ranks first in Jobs
            *Texas ranks 9th as the best state for small businesses
            *California ranks 48th best for small businesses
            *I know that from 1990 to 2010, 3,300 corporations moved from California to Texas…

            *I know that most Texans really like living there – except for all the illegal alien criminals living there that drive the crime rate up and the heavy drug cartel presence there due to the failure of the OBama Administration’s promise to enforce Federal laws and protect the borders.

            And yet – you have the temerity to call me clueless?

            I’m sure that if you are including yourself in that list of “self-respecting” persons who would not want to live in Texas, you don’t have anything to worry about – you’re too much of a pussy to thrive there.

            So stay right where you are and create another Detroit – the Texans don’t want you.

        • Eleanore Whitaker

          You are so right. TX is 2nd only to Alaska in getting the highest return for the $1 they pay in federal taxes. This doesn’t begin to count the tax exemptions and cuts TX gets for Big Oil and the $39 billion their cronies in the GOP House majority voted them in the past 3 years. TX is a porker state full of big “porks” who can’t support themselves without help. Let it secede. Who cares? All the important universities, Banking and major industries are in the northeast and CA anyway.

      • RobertCHastings

        Your “biblical” quotation is used in what context in the Bible? If you would care to research that, I think you would find that what you are portraying is yourself as a hypocrite. Much of what the Bible states about hypocrisy seems to apply to people like you who find partial passages they can use to support virtually any position they wish, ignoring that using the revealed word of God in such a way is something He seriously frowns upon.

        • Mulligatonney

          …which quotation was that, butt-face?
          …and you are obviously arrogant enough to claim that you know God so intimately that you are familiar with the things that “He seriously frowns upon”…
          What is your position on abortion?
          Careful – you may have to self-identify as a – what was it you accused me of…a hypocrite?

        • idamag

          People, from the Bible belt, quoting the Bible, give Christianity a bad name.

      • RobertCHastings

        Here is the Biblical verse I referred to 4 days ago, the one that you apparently have forgotten. Have you read the context of that quote? I doubt that you possess any redeeming character traits that would tell you to find out if the Bible actually supports your interpretation, or if the surrounding context of the quote states something entirely different.

        • Mulligatonney

          ?????
          …time for your meds?

      • Jim Myers

        I venture to say, it sounds to me that you likely get most of your information from the “Fair and Balanced” reporting on Fox News.

        However, on the plus side, you at least had the common decency to write President Obama’s name correctly.

        That put’s you head and shoulders above a large portion of your peers.

        • Mulligatonney

          How would you know that?

          Are you a closet “Fox Watcher…”?

          Are you an SDS member as well? There is a lot of brain-washing going on on both left and right, but are you suggesting that the other side has no right to an opinion?

          Or that conservatives are less informed and more stupid than misinformed, stupid liberals?

          Liberals, socialists, communists, marxists, progressives (yawn) are on the wrong side of history if they believe that government is the solution to what ails nations.

          In fact, as Reagan used to assert, government IS the problem.

          That really, is the basic debate. History bears out conservative morality and fiscal responsibility, and yet affluent societies repeat the “desperate experiment”, time after time… They trend toward pleasure and indulgence, do not discipline or motivate their children, allow a breakdown of family and look to the government for assistance and eventually to be taken care of.

          The founders of this country regarded government as a “necessary evil”. You know this, if you possess even a modicum of education.

          Why do you suppose they regarded it thus?

  • adler56

    She’s as much a wacko as her dickless old man. Un-American doesn’t begin
    to describe her racist statements. She has never done anything in her life
    to warrant her running for Senator unless righties think not being born gay is an achievement- unlike her sister.

    • Mulligatonney

      Speaking of someone who has never done anything in their life to warrant running for Senator….
      You elected a president with less qualifications than Liz Cheney, you stupid bastard.

      • youmustbejoking

        Our president had more than enough qualifications and the intelligence to go with it. Which is why Liz Cheney is left at the gate. She doesn’t have even half the smarts of President Obama and she is an idiot too.

        • Mulligatonney

          Yes – the religion of liberalism again reveals itself. What you just said takes more blind, ignorant faith than any religious zealot.
          Your guy is the least qualified in history. That includes Palin, who was governor of Alaska, as you know, and ran a business…
          OBama spent one year in the Senate and his voting record was a joke. Liberals love to attack Palin, and there may be some real concerns there, although her principles are sound. However, the liberal memory mysteriously fails them when they are reminded that OBama did not even know how to pronounce “corpsman” when describing a member of the military – one small item among hundreds of blunders and mistakes he has made out of ignorance and inexperience.
          You cannot spin this any other way. It is well documented. He is the least qualified to hold that office in American history.

          • youmustbejoking

            Shall we bring up what Palin doesn’t know? I happen to know a lot about her and just how incompetent she is. I saw her turn a pretty little town (where I lived) into an ugly strip mall and a once pristine lake into a polluted mess. We don’t even have to go into her ineptness as a “sports reporter” or how she screwed up the state government. The only principles she has are the ones that put money in her pocket and creating the most amount of discord and hatred that she can. Her personal behaviors prove she does not walk what she talks. As far as her “business” experience, it was Todd and his partner that did the real work. It didn’t support the family to the point that Todd didn’t have to work on the slope. You know- that union job he had? Since Todd is 1/4 Alaska Native, they didn’t even have to pay for health care- they got it free courtesy of the taxpayers. Did I mention how she charged the state for living in her own home? Or how she put her children’s travel on the states dime?

            If the only thing you can point out about Obama is he mispronounced a word, (which I would bet many do on that word) you don’t have much. The president did a lot of things prior to becoming president and he had a very solid education to back it up. His biggest mistake was in thinking the Republicans cared enough about this country to work with him and the Democrats in Congress to help this country get back up. They have proved that is not the case. The GOP is willing to let the country sink just so the president doesn’t get credit for anything. Cheney and Palin are two of the worst, but thank God they hold no elected office and it needs to stay that way.

          • Mulligatonney

            The comment wasn’t about what Sarah Palin did or did not accomplish, or how many words OBama mispronounced (of which there are many). It’s mostly about a double standard that liberals seem to be trying to set. Sarah is stupid when she mispronounces something, and OBama is a genius no matter how severe the blunder.
            The thing that made his botched pronunciation of “corpsman” noteworthy is that there is no one in or associated with the military that doesn’t know how to pronounce that word. It simply illuminates his absolute inexperience with all things military. Marine Corps – what could be more obvious? And he mis-pronounced “corps” and “corpsman” three times. Liberals should just admit it instead of trying to defend him for it. There really is not a defense, and it destroys their credibility when they try to make other arguments or make other defenses. There is nothing to defend there.

            OBama received his education through affirmative action and the second part through a very underhanded and clandestine letter of recommendation. He was mentored by a communist (Frank Marshall Davis), chose only anti-Americans as associates, joined the New Party in Chicago (a communist organization), posed as a lawyer for ACORN along with more than a dozen other front organizations for the New Party, and launched his political career in the living room of a domestic terrorist (William Ayers), whose father (Ayers senior) financed his campaigns and connected him. The rabbit hole goes deeper with Valerie Jarret, Rahm Emmanuel, Jeremiah Wright and a plethora of other left-wing radicals that he associated with as his handlers gained political power for him.
            Those are his qualifications. He has no other. And this should challenge you to come up with some…
            One can only conclude from your statement, “Obama did a lot of things”… that you knew what he was when you voted for him or that you didn’t bother to find out what he was when you voted for him.
            It’s difficult to determine which is worse – either way, we wound up with a severely inexperienced ideologue holding the highest office in the world and dismantling the country in every way possible – economically, politically, financially, morally and in foreign policy…our enemies laugh at him and take advantage of him at every turn while he embarrasses himself by saying he “could have been Trayvon”… WTF? Oh, and by the way, he wants to turn U.S. sovereignty over to the UN.
            History will regard him as the most inept, ineffective president that ever held the office – at least, up to this point…

          • AKRNC

            Turn off Fox and trying reading a variety of web sites for the truth rather than relying on the RWNJ based sites for all your info. You’re so far from the truth in everything you say that you’ve proven yourself to be completely clueless.

          • Mulligatonney

            At least, Bush can pronounce “corpsman” and knows that there are 50 states, and not 57, as OBama purports…
            That makes OBamunist stupider’n Bush…
            OBamunist – that’s like a Sarah Palin word, yes? She does have a knack of infuriating you proletariats with the truth.
            Of course, she’s not a superior intellect like your messiah, the 57 state, corpsman guy who grovels before foreign kings….

  • Mary Ann Hoogeveen

    Satan had a daughter,evil father,evil daughter.

  • jmprint

    She is so right, President Obama is not a greedy bastard-monster. He is compassionate, strong and caring. A wonderful human being. There is noway Cheney can compare himself to President Obama.

  • LaRae Bailey

    Obama the monkey face and his loud mouth Biden do not in any way deserve to hold any office in this country and as for Holder, he should be in jail. never in american history has there been a more corrupt administration hold an office. these three are guilty of violation of their oath of office,and of being a traitor for not following the constitution, in my opinion they are nothing more than muslim terroists in american clothing. they have done nothing to help this country or our people, the continue to lie, cheat and steal from the american people and all claim no responsibility for anything in any scandal when most of america knows they are up to their necks in every scandal there has come to light thus far. It really is too bad there are not more honest people working under them who would come forward to tell the truth. these three men are evil like a cancer destroying this great country from within. we should have been able to be proud of our first black president in history, but the truth is he has been and is a current disgrace. both parties are just as guilty as the other, just as corrupt and self serving in our destruction and there needs to be a serious house cleaning of corruption with new blood all though both parties. just my opinion and none of you will like it, but you dont strike me as very informed of the real truth behind these american destroyers

    • metrognome3830

      You, on the other hand sound quite well informed. With all the wrong information. As you say, it’s just your opinion. Your opinion and 99 cents will get you a burger at Burger King — with a coupon.

      • LaRae Bailey

        the information I put forth is all out there to read and I dont do burger king

        • metrognome3830

          The information you put forth is from questionable sources. At best.

    • Jim Myers

      KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!

      I haven’t had that many laughs from one post on this site in a very long time.

      AND, I APPRECIATE A GOOD LAUGH!!!

      Just think. Obama is STILL President Of The United States, and will remain so for several more years.

      MY PRESIDENT AND YOURS!!!!

      ROTF,LMAO!!!!!!

      • idamag

        Since no other president has been treated with no much disrespect and hatred and no other president was Black, and white supremists groups doubled after Obama was elected, it is race. And don’t go spouting off about playing the race card as the evidence is out there.

        • Jim Myers

          Thank you. Eloquently put.

    • highpckts

      Monkey face? Really? My how not racist you are! You must be so proud!

      • LaRae Bailey

        as a matter of fact, I am very proud, yes, I tend to be racist but not of color, of the way people choose to act. I do not think grown people should take an oath and then stand there and lie with a smile, to violate their oath of office, to cheat the people who pay his wages, or anything this evil monster in the wh is guilty of. I am an honest american who cares about people of all colors, all religions, and all nationalities. It is the trash and thugs I am a racist about and color is not an object.. there is as many white trash as black out there and many of them are in congress and the senate. monkey face is the name as it is fitting, he lies every time his lips are flapping as does eric holder and the rest of them, even while under oath. americans are jailed for smoking pot, yet the wh has told border patrol to release all drug smugglers back into mexico without arrest, americans sit in jail for breaking laws while they elect to reward illegal aliens for breaking the laws of immigration.. and so many more..all the while lying to us about how it is so good for the american people and the country..yes I am proud, proud to be honest, and proud to be an american who gives a damn from the heart

        • youmustbejoking

          You should first learn to be honest with yourself. You are racist. And you are so wrong on so many of your points it would take a month of Sunday’s to try to straighten you out and I don’t have the time. You should find more reliable news sources because you are obviously listening/reading the wrong ones.

        • idamag

          “To thine own self be true and it follows that thou canst be false to any man.” Shakespeare.

      • highpckts

        It will always be good to be an American no matter who is in office! As far as liars go, we all know politicians lie, but in recent years, the GOP have gone above and beyond to the point of bringing this country to a standstill!! If you think you can blame the President for all our problems then you don’t know your facts! When the GOP governors “sneak” bills about abortion into motorcycle safety bills, that is wrong! When they refuse to help, in Ny way, the poor and Hungary, by refusing healthcare help, that is wrong! When the GOP constantly side with mega corporations instead of everyday people, that is wrong! The only destruction that will come is if we leave these obstructionist and money grubbers in office!

    • youmustbejoking

      You demonstrate your lack of intelligent thought in your first 4 words. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about and couldn’t come up with verifiable facts if they were staring you in the face. Your racism demonstrates the kind of person you are and therefore you and your words are rendered meaningless and unimportant.

      • LaRae Bailey

        because you are an obummer supporter you refuse to look around for more information so you mock my opinions? these are all out there for everyone who wants the truth but you are not one of them..have a nice daydream

        • youmustbejoking

          When you use such terminology as “monkey face” you demonstrate your ignorance and racism. You obviously can’t be open to truth even when it is staring right at you because you are filled with hatred. If you weren’t, you wouldn’t be such a racist. Too bad for you.

    • mk4524

      Strong national defense? Why did her father dodge the draft?

    • Myron Allen

      The level of racist stupidity is at an all time high!

      • LaRae Bailey

        the truth is not racist, it is just the truth

        • Myron Allen

          You talk about truth, but when you obviously know nothing about the truth or the facts. Like a typical republican/conservative, all you can do is call people names. If things aren’t going right for you stop blaming the one that’s actually trying to compromise & fix things…. blame the ones that BLOCK, filibuster, stall, & keep creating all kinds of crazy restrictive laws, especially against women! If things actually do get better (for the country), Obama looks good & they have to give Obama credit, but the GOP want to win the next elections, so they can’t afford to lose AGAIN, so like YOU the GOP say, screw the country BLAME liberals & Obama! It’s fine not to like Obama, but the hate & racist names just show how immature & ignorant you are.

        • Independent1

          As Myron said LaRae, you obviously know absolutely nothing about the truth. While you’re trying to come up with just one lie that Obama has made, WHICH YOU CAN PROVE, let me list for you just a few of his many accomplishments over the past 4 years (one of them is saving America billions of dollars by starting a war on fraud in the Defense and Healthcare sectors when he first took office – His administration has recovered more money, in the Billions than all the 3 previous presidents combined): Doesn’t sound to me like someone who’s trying to cheat us taxpayers. But here’s just a partial list of what he’s accomplished – let me see you try to refute some of it:

          -Stock Market at the highest level in history
          -Consumer confidence at the highest levels in 7 years
          -More than 48 straight months of job growth (More than 7 million jobs created over 4 plus years)
          -More jobs created in last 6 months than either Bush created in any 3 years
          -War in Iraq ended – AS PROMISED
          -War in Afghanistan winding down – AS PROMISED
          -Millions more students receiving college loans than ever before because of his actions despite total GOP congress inaction
          -American auto Industry saved from bankruptcy and flourishing again despite GOP opposition
          -More than 150 billion in taxes collected from auto industry related companies over the past 4 years that would have been lost
          -More than 1.5 million American jobs saved through bailout helping keep America out of another GOP created depression
          -Billions of fraudulently charged monies in the defense and healthcare sectors recovered in his 1st term – more than the 3 previous presidents combined
          -More PROBLEM illegal alliens rounded up and deported over the past 4 years than by any other president (more than 400,000)
          -America’s relationships restored with virtually all it’s international partners after Bush had virtually the whole world hating America (and that included the British people – only Tony Blair was dumb enough to fall for Bush and Cheney’s lies).

          And I could go on for another 20 plus accomplishments – far more than any GOP president since Teddy Roosevelt

          • idamag

            She is not going to believe you. Her ingrained hatefulness is a barrier to truth.

      • Guest

        You talk about truth, but when you obviously know nothing about the truth or the facts. Like a typical republican/conservative, all you can do is call people names. If things aren’t going right for you stop blaming the one that’s actually trying to compromise & fix things…. blame the ones that BLOCK, filibuster, stall, & keep creating all kinds of crazy restrictive laws, especially against women! If things actually do get better (for the country), Obama looks good & they have to give Obama credit, but the GOP want to win the next elections, so they can’t afford to lose AGAIN, so like YOU the GOP say, screw the country BLAME liberals & Obama! It’s fine not to like Obama, but the hate & racist names just show how immature & ignorant you are.

    • old_blu

      You’re funny.

  • earlwatters

    dont you people get it id vote for a trash man before id vote for holder or obama get your heads out of your asses

    • disqus_LcxpBv2uzz

      That’s a particularly well-thought out and articulate post. Keep up the good work!

    • highpckts

      Wow! How intelligent! So glad you thought that out with your teensy brain!

    • Allan Richardson

      You probably DID vote for a trash man … a MAKER of trash that is.

    • plc97477

      Why do you think we care?

  • Lorr

    This statement alone makes her unqualified to hold public office: ““Rarely do I disagree with best VP ever but
    Sarah Palin more qualified than Obama and Biden combined. Huge respect 4 all
    she’s done 4 GOP.”

  • JDavidS

    Cheney…the name says it all.

  • bestofandy

    Liz is no doubt a “Michele Bachmann” is disguise. She says everything Michele said short of having a famous father. Just wait until she gets around to criticizing Obamacare.

  • Landsende

    Cheney was part of one of the most corrupt presidency’s in history that lied about WMD to get us into a war with Iraq, which had nothing to do with 9/11 or Bin Laden, gave no bid contracts to Halliburton of which Cheney was CEO. They overcharged the government billions of dollars and built showers for the soldiers that electrocuted them. He held meeting behind closed doors with the oil companies and refused to disclose any details. He shot a friend while hunting that was never investigated. He received several deferments so he wouldn’t have to serve in the military yet is always advocating for military action. Of course she says her father is the greatest vp of all time. If she told the truth about his terms in office nobody would vote for her except the few delusional voters that still think Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Rice didn’t lie.

    • Allan Richardson

      In case anyone has not yet heard, 26 CIA agents were convicted in absentia (they had left the country before they were arrested) of breaking Italian law by kidnapping a suspected AQ member in 2003 (NOT legally having him arrested) and flying him to Egypt to be tortured. When one country orders its people to break another country’s laws, that COULD be viewed as an act of war. Italy is not reckless enough to declare war on the United States, which they COULD have done according to international law, but they HAVE convicted the agents of this country who committed a crime in Italy, and they face jail time if they are ever brought back to Italy.

      And just this past week, the LEADER of that CIA station was arrested in Panama for something or other. Panama MAY or MAY NOT extradite him to Italy (they have no formal extradition treaty) to begin serving his prison sentence there. So we have a President and VP who ordered 26 U.S. citizens, as civil servants, to commit a CRIME in a FRIENDLY foreign country. Is this upholding the “rule of law?”

      • youmustbejoking

        First of all, I don’t think they really consider CIA agents “civil servants”. Second, the man held in Panama was released by the Panamanians. As far as what happened under the Bush/Cheney administration, can anyone truly be surprised? They had no problem lying to us about WMD and everything else to get us into wars and getting our soldiers killed on foreign soil, why would they not allow renditions on foreign soil? (This occurred in 2003.)

        • Allan Richardson

          That was exactly my point. I did mention that it happened in 2003, and I referred to them as civil servants because they were acting as agents of the U.S. government, were not political appointees, and were not members of the military (if they were recruited from the military, they would have to be discharged and rehired as … civil servants … in order to work for the CIA. That is, if they were all “official” government employees; and the news stories identified the group as openly representing the CIA.

          What SHOULD be surprising to Americans, but unfortunately is not, is that this was done WITHOUT the cooperation of Italy’s government, and that government was OFFENDED enough by our actions that, rather than taking it up as a diplomatic matter, they tried them as fugitives, just as if they had all done the same thing as a Mafia job, and have sentenced them to prison if they can ever get them back to Italy again.

          I was not sure if Panama had released the station chief, and am grateful for the update, but I suspected that would be the outcome. Panama is more afraid of us than they are of Italy.

          Come to think of it, the undercover operation to kill bin Laden was also illegal in the eyes of Pakistan. Both operations may have been necessary, but in both cases it is regrettable that the country of the action could not be trusted to assist us. Apparently, this country DOES occasionally do things that we OUGHT to apologize for in the moral sense. Maybe we forgot to say “scusi” in 2003.

          • youmustbejoking

            I don’t have a lot of faith in Italian government or court system- even if they are allies- after the fiasco we have seen with the criminal case they brought against Amanda Knox. I saw crazy at work and that was with their prosecutor. Nothing they do would surprise me. Although I would have thought the US should have been able to work with them in the case you mention.

            In the mission to get bin Laden I’m sure we couldn’t ask Pakistan’s permission to do what we did. I have no doubt bin Laden would have been spirited away if they had known. I also remember Senator Obama saying he would do just that- enter Pakistan without permission if it was to get bin Laden. No one should have been surprised when it happened.

  • Ivan_The_Terrible

    Folks, this is the Cheney family doing their take on “Noblesse Oblige” for their fellow Wyomans. Papa is out of politics, — but not before he made sure that he feathered the bed for the oil/gas industry and other crony industrialists before he left (see exemption from Clean Water Act for the Gas companies), and Haliburton, for one, is doing quite nicely, thank you. No doubt, Liz Cheney would use her Senate seat to agitate in making this The United “Fracking” States of America. Heaven help us if they find shale under the Statue of LIberty!

    • Allan Richardson

      They would probably dig it up. Besides, all that steel and copper must be worth a lot of money, and Liberty itself apparently is not.

  • youmustbejoking

    Liz Cheney is even more worthless than her father and that’s saying something. She would have never even held the positions she has if it were not for her father. In no way is she qualified to be a US Senator and I can’t imagine Wyoming would ever vote her into office.

  • jarhead

    she says she is Patriot besIdes living DC GETTING a job from the old man who refused togo Vietnam but rather send your kids these people digust me usmc 1980 – 1983

  • Elliot J. Stamler

    She carries on in the fine tradition of Christine O’Donnell, Sharon Angle and Wendy Long all of whom recently ran for the Senate. And she will wind up doing as well as they did. (FYI-here in NY (!!) the Republican Party has become the captive of our local version of the Tea Party, the Conservative Party of NY, and the latter forced thru the nomination of Wendy Long who remarkably managed to carry exactly TWO of our state’s 63 or so counties…losing counties that have been Republican since Lincoln.)

    • idamag

      Christine O’Donnell is going to run again. Remember when she advocated making masturbation illegal? I kept wondering how that law would be enforced.

  • FT66

    She has a loose mouth full of noises. Imagine joining Ted Cruz and god forbid the woman from Alaska happens to get there. They will set fire in Senate and burn each and everything.

  • RobertCHastings

    If Wyoming elects her and she is actually seated, then it is apparent that Wyoming wants her. Who are we to argue with the good people of Wyoming, who gave us Dick Cheney? That is not what I would LIKE to say, but that is unprintable – what I would like to say would probably be viewed by some as speaking in tongues.

  • Gavin

    I am now absolutely convinced that the brain of rightwingers is a birh defect.

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  • Independent1

    Liz Cheney is exactly like her father: mentally incompetent.

  • michaelross

    Don’t worry, it won’t happen. The moderate Republicans will stick with Enzi (who is at least kind of sane), and the psychotic Republicans will hate her because she isn’t anti-gay enough.