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Tuesday, March 26, 2019

North Carolina’s Republicans ended their legislative session with fiddling, dancing and ice cream on the floor of the House of Representatives, apparently oblivious to or unconcerned with the fact that only 35 percent of their state approves of the job they are doing.

“It was the final death knell to the progress made by years of social justice and civil rights advancements,” writes SadTimesinNC, who posted the video filmed by Carol Edward on CNN’s iReport.

While Republicans are proud of their accomplishments, what they’ve done reads like a prescription for reversing decades of progress for women, minorities and the working poor:

—The worst voter suppression laws in the country;
—”Disturbing” cuts to unemployment insurance;
Huge cuts that will wound the state’s respected education system;
Rejecting Medicaid expansion, which would have covered up to 500,000 working people and created as many as 25,000 jobs;
—New women’s health restrictions they sneaked into bills about motorcycle safety and Sharia law that will likely close 15 clinics—laws the governor promised not to sign just months ago;
—The end of public financing for judicial races to please one millionaire donor;
The repeal the Racial Justice Act, which tried to keep racial bias out of administration of the death penalty;
—A new requirement for more useless drug tests for anyone receiving public assistance
—while giving the governor’s staff generous pay increases.

Republicans have turned North Carolina into a laughingstock and they’re dancing for joy.

The people of North Carolina, however, deserve credit for responding to these affronts with Moral Mondays, where thousands of citizens have risked arrest to make their discontent known.

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(h/t @Stix_N_Pux)

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257 responses to “North Carolina’s Republicans Celebrate Making Their State A Laughingstock”

  1. idamag says:

    I’ve always said that a large segment of our society thinks stupid is a virtue.

    • TZToronto says:

      They’re keepin’ it real. None of that fancy liberal book learnin’ for them. They just know what they know and what the Good Book tells ’em–if there’s someone around who can read it to them.

      • Allan Richardson says:

        That’s the only book they CAN read. And they still think people use “thou” and “thee” and “hast” and “shalt.” You know, the language Jesus and Moses spoke!

        • TZToronto says:

          Those ancient Hebrew dudes were way ahead of their time. Does anyone know what they really spoke? OK, so Jesus apparently spoke Aramaic. Since the Hebrew people were in slavery in Egypt at the time of Moses, did they speak Hebrew, or did they speak whatever the Egyptians spoke? I guess it was that form of stilted English Charlton Heston used in The Ten Commandments. . . . Let’s ask someone from North Carolina.

          • Allan Richardson says:

            So let it be written! So let it be done!
            — Yul Brynner as the Pharaoh

            Seriously, they probably spoke Hebrew (Aramaic is a related language from northern Iraq, which became the Jewish vernacular after returning from the Babylonian exile). The communication between slaves and overseers was probably in a “pidgin” of Hebrew and Egyptian (Coptic, which is the liturgical language of Egyptian Christians today, and was the language in which the Nag Hammadi books were written, using the Greek alphabet). Since Moses was “nursed” by his own biological mother as a “servant” of the princess who was his legal mother, but was also raised to be an Egyptian prince, he probably spoke BOTH languages fluently, as well as Midianite from his shepherd years (I am not sure, but Midianite may also have been related to Hebrew).

            Mah nishtanah ha-laila ha-zel me kol ha lailot?

          • Anthrogirl73 says:

            There’s no evidence Moses even existed nor is there any evidence that the Hebrews were ever slaves in Egypt.

          • TZToronto says:

            Well, that’s another issue, I suppose. One thing’s for sure, though. None of them said y’all.

          • RehabRalph says:

            Lol…for a displaced Maritimer (29 years now), sitting here in California, it’s truly refreshing to read the comments of a fellow Canadian who clearly has two clues to rub together…makes me proud to be Canadian…lol…you go, girl!

          • TZToronto says:

            Thanks, Ralph. I’m a guy, but I’ll definitely take you go, girl as a compliment!

          • RehabRalph says:

            Yeah…that “You go, girl” was just me imitating Craig Ferguson…you took it as intended…cheers

          • TZToronto says:

            Right. The four questions would sound pretty odd in Egyptian.

      • delahaya says:

        It is always amusing how the party of welfare, street thugs, illiterate illegals, miserably poor public schools, speech codes, and politically-correct research can accuse anyone else of stupidity or “no-learnin'”.

        • Anthrogirl73 says:

          Amazing how you managed to fit all those racial stereotypes in one sentence. Congratulations. I think you’ve made the original poster’s point.
          Btw, not knowing a language does not make someone “illiterate”. If you go to France and don’t know French, but are quite fluent in your own language, does that make you illiterate? Or do you only reserve remarks like that for brown people?

        • bigd9749 says:

          You mean the republican party right

        • clr1390 says:

          Welfare? You mean cash assistance. In my county out of 159 thousand people, there are 220 people getting cash. AND THEY HAVE TO WORK FOR IT. Republicans have successfully brainwashed idiots to work for less. Accept less from struggling corporate masters who are thriving with profits at all time highs. For the last 35 years of paying hardly no taxes and defunding just about anything that helps working man, the rich continue to thrive. their schools are great. And they write a check to Harvard from money got through tax abatements or literally paying no taxes all the while paying wages that have only gone up 5 dollars an hour in 35 years. PLEASE……$7.25 cents an hour and I was making $2.10 cents an hour and bought a brand new 1975 Ford Pinto on those wages. There would be no need for food stamps if wages kept up with inflation, and the cost of healthcare had not gone up 10 thousand times higher than the rest of the civilized world pays.

        • clr1390 says:

          The only play Republicans have is degrade the poor. While they are stuffing their pockets for themselves and their rich masters, people can’t make ends meet because the majority of the poor work for less wages on the hour than I earned in 1978. Anyone that believes the BS that corporations can’t afford to pay above the set minimum wage is part of the problem in this country today. if corporations were poor, and the CEO pay was shrinking like the working mans it might be believable.

          So sit back and let Fox gut unions, while a union person negotiates a massive pay day for the employees of Fox who spoon feed the morons. If you believe Bill O’Reilley and Fox iron out their contracts, one on one you are a bigger fool.

        • DownriverDem says:

          Too bad you missed adding that much of what you listed was due to repub policies over the last 30+ years. Your run is winding down. I pity you.

    • Cole Chapman says:

      I saw a great quote today that said something like a big problem with the world is that intelligent people are full of doubts while stupid people are full of confidence.

    • delahaya says:

      Yep, and they vote Democrat.

  2. elw says:

    I think every Progressive running for office in 2014 should use that video in at least one of their ads. What a sorry bunch of people NC Republicans are.

    • suerobb says:

      Yes show them rappers singing about they girlfriends as Hos and using the N word. That is less offensive,

      • elw says:

        Now how is that comment suppose to change my opinion of people like you?

        • suerobb says:

          I really care about your opinion of me???? LOL

          • elw says:

            That was clear from the racist comment you chose to share.

          • suerobb says:

            In your opinion

          • elw says:

            Yes and at least 5 others who took the time to comment on it. Not to mentions the others who found your comments despicable.

          • mike2000917 says:

            It wasnt despicable or racist. The word “racist” means nothing anymore because people of limited debating skills use it when they have no good argument.

          • Kimberly Collins says:

            Um, no. “Racist” still means something. There’s still racism, whether you want to admit it or not. And people still make racist comments. How is pointing out someone’s racism showing a lack of debating skills?

          • DownriverDem says:

            In most folks opinion we know our diversity is a good thing. You are on the side of crusty old white repub men. Please proceed.

      • truth_cutz says:

        What does rap music have to do with politics and policies in NC??? absolutely nothing!!!

        • suerobb says:

          Evidently the country sound have your panties in a knot.

          • OhWelll says:

            No, turning the floor into a dumb circus and taking the state backwards is what is pissing us off. Your lack of logic is also irritating but expected by now.

          • suerobb says:

            Well I can see your point. But just where is there any civility or decorum in politics? We cannot even discuss voter ID without people calling each other names. Actually I am pretty logical. I do not think asking someone to show ID as proof of citizenship, and residency in the state for the required period is not unreasonable. Nor is bring up standards for abortion clinics.

          • OhWelll says:

            If that was what the laws did and was not bullshit pretext, I could agree with you.

          • Allan Richardson says:

            As long as a person who is too poor to pay the cost of getting the document needed to get the document needed to get the document needed to vote can find a way to do so (I have mentioned the nursing home invalid old lady before, who would have to pay an ambulance driver and a nurse or paramedic to go with her to each state agency), and as long as the required ID was not specified IN ORDER TO make it inaccessible to such people who SHOULD be allowed to vote, fine. But we both know that is not true.

            And standards for abortion clinics that are designed to be IMPOSSIBLE to meet? Wink wink nudge nudge.

            I am not calling you names, only pointing out where you have been told (or for some reason choose to believe) only PART of the story, not the whole story.

          • symfonycms says:

            i frequent the Carolinas.. and I can tell you there isnt enough influx of people that showing an id would swing the majority in either direction.. but I dont see a big problem with an ID..

          • Anthrogirl73 says:

            haha You really think those laws are to bring up standards for abortion clinics??? Wow. I have a bridge to sell you.
            And there is literally more chance of being struck by lightening than for voter fraud to occur, so there is absolutely NO reason for anyone to show proof of citizenship to vote. None. The system is not broken, no need to fix it. It is a way to disenfranchise voters and nothing more!

          • El_Tigre_Loco says:

            Progressives are not progressive.

          • OhWelll says:

            And War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. Right?

      • henry says:

        OK, its a riddle that leads back to Obama, right? Can’t get black man out of your mind.

        • suerobb says:

          Obama? what does he have to do with this? Nothing…. YOU brought him up.

          • henry says:

            Well, you are associating progressives with rappers, right? So your thoughts seem to trip to black when you think of those to the left on the political spectrum. So it seemed a logical question to ask. since Obama is a progressive.

          • suerobb says:

            you played connect the dots. I was just commenting on the choice of music they found offensive at that session.

          • B G says:

            Dude your choice of music was so obvious that even the most naive wouldn’t believe your denials. Worse instead of trying to grow the Republican party, your deeds are actually part of the reason why the party is shrinking. For the sake of the party, keep your biases to yourself.

          • suerobb says:

            I am not registered with any party presently. Was a registered Democrat and decided they are way to hypocritical.
            I found that Clinton, Bush and Obama were not great presidential material. I am an equal opportunity politician hater.
            None of them have OUR best interests at heart, only their donors and themselves…. and their re-election. I was proud of America for voting in a Black man even though I didn’t think he was a good choice. thought it might end some racial division and to be truthful, it is the government that keep up the racism… telling blacks that white will never give them a fair chance at life and they need the government to intervene for them.

            I know I sound harsh at times, and I really feel for kids who are born to parents who really do not do what is best for them, or love them. Throwing just enough money at people who live in poverty to keep the peace is not working. These kids need to feel loved and worth, respect for themselves and others… and the family unit which we all have done out best to destroy is what is needed.

          • elw says:

            Give it a rest, you’ve changed your story enough times that they are no longer credible.

          • Kimberly Collins says:

            Yes, that’s the problem. The GOVERNMENT telling blacks that white folks won’t give them a chance. NOT actual, you know, RACISM. Wow, you really have some blinders of white privilege there. Unbelievable.

          • Kimberly Collins says:

            It wasn’t the CHOICE of music that anyone finds offensive in this article. It’s the fact that they’re CELEBRATING having passed such regressive laws. I love me some good country fiddle music. Just like I love cookies. But I wouldn’t take those cookies the NC governor offered the women’s rights activists. For that same reason, I wouldn’t dance to this fiddle music or eat this ice cream. I have nothing against ice cream, cookies, and fiddle music. What I DO have a problem with is regressive laws being passed to strip people of their rights.

          • BillP says:

            No Henry suerobb isn’t talking about non-whites just them folks that gots gold teeth and does them rap songs. I didn’t ralize that there is a musical divide along political lines. Progressives love gansta rap and detah metal ( I must be out of touch then I don’t listen to or like either) and conservatives listen to country music and polkas. I guess along with voter id cards we will have to identify the type of music we listen to. Will books be next?

          • henry says:

            OK Sue.

      • OhWelll says:

        What does that have to do with anything? What does rap have to do with this story? Why not death metal or polka?

      • Anthrogirl73 says:

        Actually it is less offensive.

      • Kimberly Collins says:

        So are these rappers in political office? Because this article is about elected officials, not people in the entertainment business.

      • DownriverDem says:

        Your lack of critical thinking skills keeps you stuck in the same mode. It’s tiring and lacking.

  3. m8lsem says:

    Well, if the voters react appropriately, sounds like the next session’s new Dem majority could simply repeal all laws passed this session, and restore all laws repealed this session, and have sanity back.

  4. Sand_Cat says:

    But the people of NC elected these jackasses, and the governor that signed their insanity into law. Maybe it’s better late than never, but I still can’t feel much sympathy.

  5. Nevermoreagain says:

    Dems controlled N.C. for 140 years before the last election. The gas tax is now 2nd highest in the country, unemployment it 5th highest, the state had borrowed $2.4B for unemployment benefits that had to be paid back. and the Dems hadn’t done a thing to solve those problems after 4 years. Bev Perdue didn’t decide not to run because she had overwhelming support; she would have lost badly because of Dem scandals and poor policy.
    People can say what they want but what the Dems were doing wasn’t working. Period.
    Citizens will give Pat McCory and the Rep legislature a chance but if he doesn’t get jobs to N.C. he’ll be gone as well.

    • disqus_fsqeoY3FsG says:

      How can they create jobs, they are too busy passing extremely restrictive abortion laws forcing women into back alley abortions again and passing Voter Suppression laws. Hey but while North Carolinians are suffering because of the cuts to education, cuts to unemployment insurance, refusing Medicaid expansion which would help the uninsured, they gave the governor’s staff generous pay increases your elected officials are dancing. By the way your new Governor is a Liar.

      • Nevermoreagain says:

        You know nothing about N.C. and it shows. Just yesterday the state finally shut down an abortion clinic with 23 major violations. You can thank Kermit Gosnell for the new abortion laws. How will making the state bankrupt help unemployment, education, Medicaid, and state employees? The salary for state legislature members is $13,951/year and the gov is $139590./year. McCory didn’t inhibit access to abortion; he just made a major medical operation safer by regulating it to the same extent N.C. regulates any urgent care clinic.

        • disqus_fsqeoY3FsG says:

          Which will shut down almost all of the abortion clinics making people travel who most likely do not have the funds to do so. So you are going to have more Gosnell type abortions and that is not safer.
          I know your Governor is a liar and has no respect for women, considering his deplorable actions with the protestors giving them a plate of cookies. I know you support legislation that wants to SUPPRESS the right to vote for a targeted group of people. I know that North Carolina ranks 35th in child’s well being, 16.03% are uninsured and 13.7% live below the poverty level.

          • Nevermoreagain says:

            Your stats prove my point. The Dems have had control for 140 years – now it’s time to try something different that might work.
            I know you don’t live here as I do so stay where you are, Please.

          • disqus_fsqeoY3FsG says:

            Have you read Dominick’s post below? 140 years is a bit of an exaggeration don’t you think? I am happy to accommodate your request that I stay out of North Carolina, however, I notice in your responses you never address the Voter Suppression Laws or the fact that the Medicaid expansion would address the 16.03% uninsured.

          • El_Tigre_Loco says:

            Yes, but the state would have to pay for it as an unfunded mandate.

          • emily sharples says:

            So should I leave because I find your statements illogical and unfounded? Also, do you think that the stats listed above (35th in child well being, 16.03% uninsured) are going to get better considering McCrory declined the ACA in NC? I love NC with all my heart. There are no buts or ifs to come after that, either. I’m not sure I’ll be raising any children here, though. Especially not girls.

          • MN_Moderate says:

            Good luck! Hope you ride herd on those you’ve elected!

          • suerobb says:

            So in order not to make people drive a few miles for an abortion, you prefer they have them done in dirty rooms with unsterile instruments? Really? Driving women into back alley abortion clinic is exactly what you are trying to protect by rejecting this bill that was passed.
            Unemployment benefits were meant to be temporary no like welfare that goes on for generations. Medicard…. people are getting tired of paying for capping baby teeth while we has to pay for our dentist visits.

          • disqus_fsqeoY3FsG says:

            Based on the maps shown on TV it is not a few miles, especially if there is only one clinic that can meet the new requirements, and that will force abortions done in dirty rooms and unsterilized instruments. How many women have died in North Carolina from abortions? I have tried to research, but that is a number not showing up.

            Yes unemployment benefits are meant to be temporary, but what do you do when people CAN NOT FIND work? Do you have facts – data that shows Welfare goes on for generation and you are against Medicaid when you have a 16.03% uninsured. I know you are one of those “Good Christians”.

            “people are getting tired of paying for capping baby teeth while we has to pay for our dentist visits” they way you said that can I presume you are in favor of the Voter suppression laws.
            Ending conversation, I am really tired of the same old Republican philosophy “Austerity for you, Subsidies for me”.

          • Kimberly Collins says:

            Welfare has time limits. So does unemployment.

          • Kimberly Collins says:

            What is “Medicard”? And what are you talking about with capping baby’s teeth? Boy, you sure do make up a lot of stuff.

          • suerobb says:

            Thirty fifth in ranking for child well being? Isn’t that the parents’ of NC fault. You bring a child into the world, it is YOUR responsibility to make sure the child is well cared for.

          • Kimberly Collins says:

            Yes, but the government has a responsibility to help parents care for their children. Or would you rather that we have no standards for water quality, the food we eat, building goods, sanitation?

          • El_Tigre_Loco says:

            What? Giving someone cookies is bad?

          • Kimberly Collins says:

            No, but when someone votes to strip me of my RIGHTS and then offers me cookies, I’ll tell him where he can put those cookies!

        • KarenJ says:

          …And by the way, legal abortion is a MINOR medical procedure that can be done under local anesthesia, conscious sedation, or general anesthesia (patient’s choice).

          http://www.familyplanningspecialists.com/services/first-trimester-abortion.html

          You can thank your legislature for the increased number of back-alley abortions by unregulated practitioners in your state’s future – but since the injured and dead women are poor, your people don’t really care, do they?

          • suerobb says:

            So I guess with your logic a hospital shouldn’t have to go through a joint commissions inspection to see if they are up to code, staff, equipment, procedures , safety, cleanliness if it might meant a person has to drive a few extra miles. Do you know how many women died from childbirth because the doctor went from woman to woman without washing his hands. Demanding a clean and emergency ready clinic is not unreasonable.

          • fgh says:

            that would be up to the woman having the procedure, and we are not discussing Hospitals.

            I would absolutely like to know how many women died in childbirth due to doctor not washing his hands.

            If I am concerned about being near emergency help for an abortion, that’s my business.

          • suerobb says:

            If was the leading cause of death among women prior to the discovery of bacteria and antibiotics. Streptococcus pyogenes.
            Don’t know about you, but I do not want anyone sticking anything in me that isn’t sterile and will not have ANY procedure done unless they are able to handle any emergency, as in anaphylaxis, myocardial infarct, hemorrhages or any assorted emergencies.

            If isn’t up to the woman having the procedure to decide the standard. Are you really that stupid?

          • Kimberly Collins says:

            So you’re talking about medical procedures and practices 50-100 years ago, not NOW? So your argument that NC needed these anti-abortion measures is because doctors, before the discovery of bacteria and the germ theory of disease, didn’t wash their hands? Wow, great argument. I guess next they should pass a law outlawing the humor theory of disease? It was all the rage 300 years ago and people died as a result! They’ve got to STOP that!

          • El_Tigre_Loco says:

            Real doctors don’t do abortions. It is against the Hippocratic oath.

          • Kimberly Collins says:

            How is it against the Hippocratic oath? If a woman will die unless she has an abortion, how is performing that abortion against the Hippocratic oath?

          • Kimberly Collins says:

            I’d like to see a source and citation for this claim you have of doctors failing to wash their hands and women dying in childbirth as a result. Give me a source, don’t just make up stuff.

          • El_Tigre_Loco says:

            You are reading propaganda put out by PP who is raking in millions off abortions. Do you really agree with killing 1 million innocent children every year?

        • Kimberly Collins says:

          Do ambulatory surgery centers that perform VASECTOMIES have the same level of regulation and oversight as clinics where abortions are performed? Answer me that.

          • Nevermoreagain says:

            Yes – it requires a board certified urologist in an out-patient clinic or hospital. Mine also required written permission from my wife.

            Just so you’re up-to-date, McCory hasn’t signed the voter I.D. bill.

      • suerobb says:

        Really, the current unclean, unsafe back alley clinics currently running are exactly what they legislated to stop.
        Unemployment benefits are not endless…get a job.

        I am tired of paying for the poor’s health care when I struggle to pay my own.

        • Jesse4 says:

          If you really think they are trying to improve safety with these abortion clinic restrictions then you have to be about five years old. Mentally, anyway.

          • suerobb says:

            You may be correct, but as I said before, the state has a right to set the standards. Just because you have a right to an abortion doesn’t meant you have to right to demand the state provide one for you. I am not against abortions. But if you are old enough to think you should engage is unprotected sex, you are old enough to find someone to provide you one. Not anyone else’s problem

          • Kimberly Collins says:

            The state does NOT pay for abortions. Try again.

          • Kimberly Collins says:

            “But if you are old enough to think you should engage is unprotected sex,
            you are old enough to find someone to provide you one. Not anyone
            else’s problem”

            What about victims of rape and sexual assault? The victim’s fault?

        • henry says:

          O stop it. They are not concerned with women’s well being. They are basically backwards people, out of step with the needs of the times. You can be good and conservative.

          • suerobb says:

            Few woman “need” an abortion. they need to use birth control. Condoms are free at health departments.

          • MN_Moderate says:

            Hope you never end up in a position that you need public support. Most people don’t purposefully end up there as some would have you believe. In addition, just in the case of abortion, who do you think is going to support the children of those that can’t get an abortion. I can hear you now . . . . . .

          • suerobb says:

            If you cannot afford birth control or an abortion, why are you participating in sex? That is the problem. No one tells people who seek help not to burden the taxpayer any more with more children. People on MEDICAID can get free birth control and the health department cannot give condoms away. Everyone needs help, but you have to help yourself. I have a relative who works welfare… a good liberal when she started out….. LOL she saw the light real quick. I know there are people who really need a temporary hand, but I recently saw an illegal immigrant complaining that she cannot feed the seven people she has living with her on the welfare she has been receiving for TWENTY YEARS. Really? You have a baby with a man who refuses to pay support for the first one and you have another baby with him… really? A fellow worker of my brother has a free phone…. She is making a good wage… why am I paying for her to text message her friends? Ever see section 8 housing complex and wonder how they afford new SUVs? Ever see a housing project a few years after leasing when all the copper pipes have bee stolen for drugs? Perhaps If Obama and Congress cleaned up all this fraud and waste, people would be more inclined for social programs.

          • Kimberly Collins says:

            “People on MEDICAID can get free birth control and the health department cannot give condoms away.”

            THAT is SIMPLY NOT TRUE. I don’t know where you heard this, but it is NOT true.

          • Kimberly Collins says:

            “I recently saw an illegal immigrant complaining that she cannot feed the
            seven people she has living with her on the welfare she has been
            receiving for TWENTY YEARS.”

            (1) How do you know this person you saw was an “illegal immigrant”? (2) No one can stay on welfare for 20 years. President Clinton passed welfare reform that puts time limits on receiving welfare benefits. You don’t know what you’re talking about. You’re either lying or misinformed.

          • suerobb says:

            I am not against abortion for those that cannot afford it and if they have two kids and are on welfare… a tubal ligation or a vasectomy is in order. I had one after having the kids I felt I could support. I do not believe a woman has the right to wait until a baby is viable to decide to have an abortion UNLESS she finds out the baby has some abnormality that would make it very hard for the child to live a reasonably normal life.

          • Kimberly Collins says:

            But the very case you bring up, in which a woman finds out the baby has a serious birth defect…the Republicans are trying to limit these abortions as well!

            And why aren’t they passing laws to have better regulation of clinics that perform vasectomies? Where are the laws regulating men’s health and vasectomies? Vasectomies can be performed in ambulatory surgery centers that aren’t nearly as regulated as clinics that perform abortions. Where are the laws addressing that? Hmmm?

          • henry says:

            Look, I am not pro abortion by any means. But let’s not kid ourselves, there is an agenda here beyond women’s health. If they (the Republicans) continue on this path things will not go well for them.

          • Allan Richardson says:

            A woman whose birth control failed, or was raped, or whose pregnancy is threatening her life (like that Indian woman in Ireland earlier this year) NEEDS an abortion. Oh wait, if she was raped, that “rape kit” in the emergency room aborts it, right? NOT!

          • disqus_fsqeoY3FsG says:

            Condoms and other birth control methods do not always work. Condoms do not make the male contributor stay and take responsibility rather than walk away. Condoms are not used by rapist or child predators.

          • Kimberly Collins says:

            Yes, there actually are women who NEED to have an abortion for health reasons or because the baby has serious birth defects (as in, the baby will die after a short and painful life, I’m not talking about Down symdrome).

          • Kimberly Collins says:

            You mention having access to condoms and other birth control measures. Why are Republicans trying to take these away too? If they really want to decrease the number of abortions, then they should promote programs that give better access to birth control. But they’re opposing programs with better access to birth control. Why is that?

        • Kimberly Collins says:

          Unemployment benefits and welfare benefits ALREADY have time limits on them (going back to Clinton’s administration and earlier).

          The laws passed by the NC state lege had NOTHING to do with regulating abortion clinics or making abortion safer. They were designed to shut down women’s health clinics and make an end-run around Roe v. Wade. Period.

          You’re either seriously deluded or being deliberately disingenuous.

      • suerobb says:

        Let me ask you…… what is the rise in costs for education???? Teachers salaries….. and how many Johnnys still cannot read?

        • Kimberly Collins says:

          So competent teachers should not receive pay increases as the cost of living goes up or as they complete more education? Really? What other industry do you advocate that for? Should doctors not get pay increases? Lawyers? CEOs? No one should ever get pay raises?

          • Kimberly Collins says:

            BTW, you can thank your buddy GW Bush for the children falling behind in schools…”No child left behind” has actually left many children behind…

      • El_Tigre_Loco says:

        Get off the party line. Giving birth is safer than abortion. Read the latest study of the real world from the US, Finland and Denmark.

        • disqus_fsqeoY3FsG says:

          I just looked up your comment about this report and Reuters, Fox News and Health Bulletin say that a U.S. Report that came out January 2012 states, Abortions are Safer than Giving Birth. There were however two anti-abortion blogs or papers that posted the headlines backwards (gee wonder why?). One did say it was a Finnish report that stated this, but gave no link.
          Talk about a party line……

    • Dominick Vila says:

      Here is a list of North Carolina Governors during the past 40 years:
      James E. Holshouser, Jr. 1973-1977 – Republican
      James B. Hunt, Jr. 1977-1985 – Democrat
      James G. Martin 1985-1993 – Republican
      James B. Hunt, Jr. 1993-2001 Democrat
      Mike Easley – 2001-2009 – Democrat
      Beverly Perdue – 2009-2013 – Democrat
      Pat McCrory – 2013-incumbent – Republican

    • CrankyToo says:

      The DARNs (DumbAss RedNecks) are all happy and shiny right now, but that worm’s gonna turn on a dime, and for the same reason that the state went red after 140 years – corrupt, inefficient and unresponsive governance. The GOP dirtbags who are raping and pillaging North Carolina are making the same mistakes that Repugnican-controlled legislatures and governors across the country have been making since the Greedy Old Pricks massacred the Democrats in 2010 – they’re using their power as a cudgel with which to beat their constituents over their collective head. Doubtless, the people will make them pay for their transgressions In North Carolina and elsewhere in 2014 and beyond.

      When will Democrats and Repugnicans all learn that, once they ascend to power, they must act and govern responsibly if they expect to stay in power?

    • MN_Moderate says:

      I wish you luck! You have seen how Republican policies have worked at the National level for the last 10 years I hope

    • Allan Richardson says:

      True, but THOSE Democrats are now Republicans. No Southern state except possibly Florida was ever run, before the Civil Rights Act, by people whose ideology would TODAY be considered Democratic; rather by people whose ideology is today’s REPUBLICAN ideology. The outside-of-Dixie Democratic Party put up with racism in their southern wing until the 1960’s, then when they began to apply Jefferson’s principles to minorities ALSO, and passed civil rights legislation, their conservative members switched to being Republicans.

      More recently, Southern states whose business leaders and prominent politicians are conservative have not made much progress EVEN when they elected progressive leaders (such as Jimmy Carter and Roy Barnes), because their legislatures remained “Dixiecrat” under the Republican label.

  6. Dominick Vila says:

    Republican politicians know their constituents a lot better than most of us do. They know that all they have to do is deliver speech highlighting abortion, same sex marriage, affirmative action, the evils of socialism, with a large portrait of Barack Obama in the background and their chances to be re-elected will be all but guaranteed.
    When are we going to understand that logic and common sense have nothing to do with electioneering?

    • Cole Chapman says:

      you forgot to mention holding a gun while delivering the speech.

    • Rhylanor says:

      Actually they don’t. What the GOP are doing is exactly the opposite of the mainstream. It’s a common fallacy that’s played out in many other first world countries when a party gets whomped in the national elections – going more extreme. It’s a mistake because that extremism is what didn’t get you elected nationally in the first place. NC is a swing state, and many of these local legislators have slim majorities. What they should have done is perhaps meet the needs of all their potential electors not just pander to special interests and do so in an extremely blatant way. As someone who lives in NC the anger is palpable. I would be stunned if they are not thrown out in the next election, and that’s an opinion garnered from talking to Republican and Democrat alike.

      • Dominick Vila says:

        There is no doubt in my mind they would have been in much better shape at a national level had the GOP worked constructively with the Dems on issues ranging from ACA to immigration reform, Wall Street reform, equality, etc. The fact that some of these issues were Republican ideas (The Heritage Foundation, one of the most conservative think tanks in the country was the first to propose healthcare reform) would have given the GOP credibility. Instead, they chose to fight everything President Obama proposed and they paid dearly for it in 2012.
        The odds are in their favor in 2014 because of the large number of Dems running for re-election, compared to Republicans, but if they continue their relentless attacks on ethnic minorities, women, and continue to oppose legislation that would strengthen our economy and create jobs, they are likely to become irrelevant within a decade. The problem is not so much that they don’t have good ideas, their problem is that they are consumed by so much hatred that they cannot think logically. Obviously, the bizarre statements they make does not help matters. Instead, it helps us! 🙂

  7. Catskinner says:

    While some of the items listed probably need to be looked at and revised, Voter ID is necessary for the country to move forward. American voters have to have faith in the electoral system.

    • juli1 says:

      Why aren’t you concerned with voter oppression?

      • BillP says:

        Because he would rather focus on an imaginary problem of voter fraud. You know that critical issue of .0007 percent voter fraud.

      • Catskinner says:

        There isn’t any voter oppression. That’s a ruse for the purpose of continuing to run dishonest elections.

      • suerobb says:

        Poor people have to have ID to get welfare and to get into nursing homes. Tired of this oppression BS

      • suerobb says:

        Rather one denied the right to vote because he or she refuses to take the steps required to cast a ballot than have one illegal vote counted

        • Kimberly Collins says:

          So you are against the voter suppression tactics that were used by the GOP to keep minorities from voting (GOP operatives in PA were even caught on tape talking about it!)?

      • rjm2238 says:

        No one is denied the right to vote, not even when they are voting absentee and in person.
        Show me a list of documented cases where anyone was disenfranchised by needing to show ID. Showing ID is norm for every other activity in life requiring interaction with other people so why do you only complain with respect to voting.
        Are you not concerned your “poor, stupid, ID less moron” can’t cash a check? get a library book, use a credit card or any other activity because they are too stupid to get by without your support. Boy what would these poor souls do without you wonderful Liberals looking out for them. Why don’t you care about all the other activities, only the voting? Oh I see only the voting affects you, they can all starve if it doesn’t directly affect you, is that it concerned Liberal?
        Stop patronizing these folks, they do not need you to live.
        Rich in New Mexico.

    • highpckts says:

      I know! What about ALL that voter fraud?? Geez! Something must be done to stop these undesirable people from voting if they can’t follow the rules we make!! Right??

      • Catskinner says:

        Something needs to be done to keep them from voting 10 or 12 times.

        • highpckts says:

          Who is “them”? Prove it!!

        • suerobb says:

          JUst ignore that one in Ohio that admitted she voted six times? Think of all the speeders who are never caught.

        • Jesse4 says:

          Nobody, or almost nobody is voting “10 or 11 times.” The alleged problem doesn’t exist.
          That’s just the pathetic excuse used to keep Democrats away from the polls, and everyone over age 10 or 11 knows it.

          • suerobb says:

            And you know this how???? Do you realize how many urban precincts had 100% voter participation? One had 128% All for Obama? you really believe that even those dying in a hospital made it to vote? No one died or moved. It would be a rarity for one precinct but how many in Philly and Cleveland??? Both swing states……. No red flags yet????

          • Sand_Cat says:

            And you and catskinner know they are how? You’re the ones making the claim that measures are needed, but you haven’t anything whatsoever on which to base the claim.

          • Kimberly Collins says:

            [citation needed] for that 128% figure.

        • Kimberly Collins says:

          Show me a source that this happened in the last election.

    • Peoples425 says:

      Voters have had faith in the electoral system for centuries until events such as voter oppression (*See article, reference past electoral cycle and the voting rights of minorities) have illustrated the condemnation that much of this country has had toward equal representation. Ironic considering that this is what the country was supposedly founded upon.

      • suerobb says:

        Probably stems from the idea that voters shouldn’t vote for money out of someone else’s wallet. You should be paying federal income taxes and property taxes ( you do not pay them under section 8) to vote in elections and be happy with whatever charity you get if you want to breed without supporting what you deliver.

        • Jesse4 says:

          Of course: voting should only be for people with higher incomes, and property owners.
          It’s the American way.

          • suerobb says:

            It was that way when the country was formed. If you aren’t paying in why should you vote yourself a personal payout

          • Kimberly Collins says:

            Sue, so you’re a woman? You want to give up your right to vote, I’m assuming? We can go back to white males owning property being the only ones allowed to vote and African-Americans counted as 3/5 of a person. I hope you don’t have a bank account or own real property. Because under the law at the time of this nation’s founding, that was prohibited for women. Also, as a woman, you shouldn’t be allowed to testify in court. That was also the law at the time of this nation’s founding. So that served us well. I guess we should all go back to those idyllic times, huh? Make sure to turn over all your financial & legal affairs to your closest male relative, Sue! You will officially be a non-person legally, with what you’re advocating! Have fun!

          • rjm2238 says:

            Are you an idiot? That was seven generations, one civil war and 650000 dead ago. I don’t think there is too much danger of going back to those Democrat hey days.
            As a matter of fact one wonders how you even come up with this nonsense in light of Affirmative Action programs which exist to disenfranchise the very White Males you are complaining about, but you have no problem with them. Just goes to show you that hate is a one way street, and it leads the wrong way, no matter who is driving the bus.
            Rich in New Mexico.

        • Peoples425 says:

          Given the stigma that you continue to reference, I wonder whether or not you are holding any one category of people accountable for what a minority may do.
          In regards to your commentary though, you’d be better served if you realized that regardless of the standing of one in the country, they still are allowed to vote for change in some manner.

          • suerobb says:

            Change is one thing, Obama phones are another. 47% of people do not pay anything to support the government, yet they keep wanting the government to provide more and more.

          • Sand_Cat says:

            “Obama” phones were started by Bush, idiot.

          • Kimberly Collins says:

            Actually, I think it was Reagan.

          • Kimberly Collins says:

            The “ObamaPhones” you refer to is a program instituted by RONALD REAGAN.

            The 47% thing – I’d still like to know who Romney’s people came up with that 47% figure. Do you know? Is that the number of people receiving food stamps? WIC? SNAP? Medicaid? Please cite a source.

      • Catskinner says:

        I think voter confidence was shaken with the ACORN scandal during the 2008 race. And in 2012 ACORN went underground and changed the dynamics. I think there were all kinds of illegal voters, and they’d been setting it up for a very long time.

        This is the kind of thing that wouldn’t work in a midterm. It has to be a presidential race.

        Another thing: A welfare recipient can move from Los Angeles to Ohio, a lot easier than a working person could make the same move. I think the electorate was perverted in a number of ways.

        The billboard incident in Ohio and Wisconsin tells you that the GOP thought something underhanded was happening.

        In any event, in a fair election, I think Romney would have won Florida, Ohio, and Virginia. I don’t have any way to prove it–the Sanchez-Dornan race and the Coleman-Franken race demonstrate just how difficult that is. But I think, if you had Voter ID you could eliminate most voter fraud.

        Eric Holder running around suing every state that tried to put Voter ID in place running up to the 2012 race tells me the administration knew that the Republicans knew. It’s a big cat-and-mouse game, and if your a public official–elected or otherwise–you couldn’t say anything unless you were absolutely sure.

        I’m not a public official.

        • metrognome3830 says:

          No, you’re not a public official. I think you are a conspiracy nut. You even admit you have no facts to back up your wild-ass theories. But, what the hell. If it makes you feel better, it’s O.K.

          • suerobb says:

            So is voter suppression conspiracy theories.

          • rjm2238 says:

            The one real, documented voter suppression incident was filmed in Philadelphia when the New Black Panther Party was caught red-handed threatening and trying to intimidate White voters.

            The true Liberal/Obama/Chicago thuggery was further evidenced when AG Eric Holder refused to accept a guilty plea from the Black Panthers and DOJ policy became no cases will be brought where White People are the defendants.

            If that is the type of justice you aspire to; a return the Democrat inspired Jim Crow laws of seventy years ago, but in reverse, that’s fine. I’ll see you at the apocalypse, coming soon to street near you, very near

            Rich in New Mexico.

          • Kimberly Collins says:

            The incident in 2008 with the Black Panther Party was one guy opening the door for voters in Philadelphia! How is that widespread voter fraud/thuggery?

          • rjm2238 says:

            There was two of them, and one was armed with a club. Do you need to use a club to open doors where you go? Or are you just lying and saying that was not what happened?
            I mean come on Man, three hundred million people have repeatedly seen the tape of this, you got to be kidding me?
            Rich in New Mexico.

          • Kimberly Collins says:

            Facts are important. You don’t provide any dates or places to what you say. But I know details of these incidents. There were two isolated incidents at one Philadelphia polling place. In 2008, 2 were allegedly there with clubs. They were charged, but the charges were dropped. In 2012, there was one at the polling place, opening doors for voters. I’ve seen the video of him opening the doors. That does not make for widespread voter intimidation.

          • Kimberly Collins says:

            How is this a conspiracy theory? The top Republican in PA admits they engaged in voter suppression in 2012.
            http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/07/17/2313571/top-pennsylvania-republican-admits-voter-id-helped-suppress-obama-voters/

          • Blossom89 says:

            Not to mention Indiana’s GOP ex-Secretary of State Charlie White getting CONVICTED of SIX FELONY COUNTS of voter fraud, perjury and theft!

            Yet because the state’s governor went to bat for him he only got 1 year of home detention, a $1000 dollar fine and has to do 30 hours of community service and he’s APPEALING that lenient sentence!!

          • metrognome3830 says:

            I don’t know. I have no facts to prove it which is why I don’t comment on it. All I have so far are suspicions. If I get some facts and present them will you believe them? I have a suspicion you would not.

        • LutherQBlissett says:

          “in 2012 ACORN went underground and changed the dynamics.”

          So, you believe that the vote was rigged by something invisible? Adjust your tinfoil and book a session with a shrink.

        • Sand_Cat says:

          The only ACORN scandal was that anybody listened to the lying “conservative” activist who accused them and watched his edited tape and believed it reflected reality.
          And you’re a Nazi; hopefully, you’ll never be a public official of any kind.

        • Kimberly Collins says:

          ACORN was shut down in April 2010. How did they orchestrate voter fraud in 2012?

      • Kimberly Collins says:

        African-Americans and women who were denied the right to vote from the founding of this nation until this past century didn’t have much faith in the electoral system.

  8. RAS says:

    Fiddling? Just like Nero fiddled while Rome burned…

  9. BillyBudd7 says:

    I would run an ad featuring the fiddler in the Legislative chamber as this scroll on the screen

    —The worst voter suppression laws in the country;

    —”Disturbing” cuts to unemployment insurance;

    —Huge cuts that will wound the state’s respected education system;

    —Rejecting Medicaid expansion, which would have covered up to 500,000 working people and created as many as 25,000 jobs;

    —New women’s health restrictions they sneaked into bills
    about motorcycle safety and Sharia law that will likely close 15
    clinics—laws the governor promised not to sign just months ago;

    —The end of public financing for judicial races to please one millionaire donor;

    —The repeal the Racial Justice Act, which tried to keep racial bias out of administration of the death penalty;

    —A new requirement for more useless drug tests for anyone receiving public assistance…

    —while giving the governor’s staff generous pay increases.

    • LutherQBlissett says:

      “I would run an ad featuring the fiddler in the Legislative chamber”

      Many state legislatures prohibit the use of footage in political ads. I don’t know if NC is one of them, but if so, more’s the pity.

      • TZToronto says:

        Let’s just have some Hollywood types re-enact the fiddling stupidity and use that in the ads.

        • rjm2238 says:

          Hey skip the Hollywood types; they are busy helping the latest incarnations of Germany’s favorite ‘National Socialist Party’ of the 1930’s anyway, so just substitute a little footage from Obama’s IRS line dancing competition. Perhaps you could call it “Dancing with the Seditious” or the “Nixon/Obama Shuffle” or go dramatic and call it “Prelude to an Impeachment”.

          You could have the New Black Panther Party as the judges and instead of a gong, as in the old Gong Show, they could
          use a club on the losers, the same one they intended to use on Republican voters in Philly.

          The whole show could be sponsored by the Department of Justice; using our tax dollars as an added incentive, and
          directed by AG Eric “No White Defendants” Holder. It may be a hit; a real knockout!

          Rich in New Mexico.

    • delahaya says:

      Except that’s not what happened. That is what a liberal propagandist lied about what happened? Voter suppression? Really? The ENTIRE rest of the world implements some form of voter ID and ballot security. That was pretty clear when those UN observers were here last election.
      As for drug tests for welfare, what are you so afraid of? Afraid you might lose your government check? Most private sector workers have to take drug tests as a condition of employment. They pay the taxes that pay the welfare. Seems fair.
      Women’s health bill. You guys cry “back alley abortions” they try to create exceptions for abortion clinics to keep them from being regulated – the only thing you don’t like regulated. And what is it with dead babies? You guys got to have your dead babies!
      And on and on….

      • Sand_Cat says:

        Gee, maybe the Dems could run your little screed as an ad.

      • Kimberly Collins says:

        I like how you assumed the person making the comment is both ON welfare AND a drug user.

        Florida instituted drug tests to receive food stamp benefits. It was incredibly expensive and only caught a few people. VERY few people. It is not worth the cost of the testing.

        YOU are the one who’s been fed propaganda…propaganda that there’s widespread voter fraud in the U.S. (there’s not, but there has been widespread voter suppression of minority votes) and that most people receiving food stamp benefits are on drugs (they’re not, MOST people receiving food stamps work full-time and the next highest category of recipients are the elderly) and that these bills were to regulate the abortion clinics. Abortion clinics are heavily regulated already. These bills passed by the NC state lege were not about regulating abortion clinics. These bills were designed to shut down abortion clinics (and not just abortion clinics but clinics that provide women’s health care). You are either deluded and hoodwinked OR you’re being disingenuous.

    • rjm2238 says:

      Well if you do I would hope you will have it printed in crayon as that is the writing implement of choice for the only folks uneducated enough to believe this drivel.
      When you are lacking in facts; as you Liberals always are, resort to either name calling, shrill hyperbole or crass lies. It would seem you have hit for the cycle here.
      Rich in New Mexico.

      • Kimberly Collins says:

        No, I’ve followed the laws passed by the NC state lege very carefully. These are FACTS that were reported here. Just because you don’t like these facts, you are saying they’re not facts. But they’re facts.

      • Dana Es says:

        Just look at the insults you’ve flung at people who don’t agree with you and you’re still doing it. Yet you criticize other people and accuse them of name calling and shrillness? My my. You’re precious.

        • rjm2238 says:

          Sorry dear, but you feel you have a monopoly to insult people and tell them they are trying to starve babies, kill people, throw old people out into the street and so. Now when someone refuses to cede the dialog to you and answers you back in similar terms you pretend to be insulted and amazed that someone would stoop to your level while not being intimidated by your nonsense.
          Well that’s right, get used to it, the new normal. We are going to fight your fire with fire, no more turning the other cheek.
          One last thing, I hope you don’t like it, I really do.
          Rich in New Mexico.

    • Kimberly Collins says:

      EXACTLY.

    • Kimberly Collins says:

      Let’s hope the good people of NC vote OUT these assclowns.

  10. Jeremy says:

    They can afford to have an Ice Cream “Ho Down”, but they can’t afford to meet their paid for Unemployment claims and they can’t afford to provide food for the school children nor funding for head start nor offset the tax break given to poor parents buying school clothes and supplies. While my heart bleeds and my tears are shed for the poor people living in that cesspool of a state, I can’t wait to see all the poor people lose their homes while children suffer and die of starvation and young women start dying in back ally abortion clinics and committing suicide… then we will see what the results of Rethuglican policies really are. The Nation is about to get the most despicable eye opener… at the expense of all those ruined lives… and we will know exactly who to blame… All those Evil Fake Pseudo-Christian Cooperate Whores of the Tea-Taliban. I pray that their God casts a plague upon them that kills their children in the same numbers that die due to their policies.

    • Guest says:

      Hyperbole much?

    • rjm2238 says:

      You claim to have compassion for the
      poor but all you truly have is raw political ambition. You continue to back the
      same failed plans that have destroyed opportunities for three generations of
      Americans; to the tune of over 5 trillion dollars. You knew when these plans
      where implemented as Johnson’s so-called Great Society that they could not and
      would not work to help the poor but would be good vote buying programs.

      These programs allow the Leftists to
      continue their disastrous social engineering while helping no one but the Ivory
      Tower Elitists who administer them and control those who are subject to them.
      The cynical fear mongering employed to keep these people on the
      Progressive/Democrat Plantations is reprehensible and unconscionable but in order to remain in power these same ‘Compassionate Liberals’ continue to sacrifice generation after generation of American citizens. They keep these poor souls in a constant state of fear by telling them that the evil Conservatives are trying to take away their benefits; which is not true, they continue to teach hate by the same mechanism and they teach an entitlement mentality in their public school system which is destructive to the human spirit and kills the ambition of millions of young, potentially limitless lifes and they do all of this while maintaining they are the only ones who care and that they are the only ones who will help these folks.

      Therein lies the economic and cultural genocide of the Liberal/Progressives as practiced upon the same people they purport to want to help. If they wished to help they would have admitted by now, sixty years later, that their plans have failed and need to be altered or abolished; to be replaced with a functioning school system for a beginner and the teaching of cooperation, self reliance and hard work. But as we all know; the Liberal credo is “the ends justify the means”. So the wheel continues to turn and roll over another generation of hapless souls whose only value to the Liberals is as a mass of votes necessary to remaining in charge. These people and their continued agenda represent the essence of the very definition of cynicism and cruelty.
      They are truly un-American, evil souls who; given any measure of justice what so ever, will pay in the end when their true motives come to light.

      Rich in New Mexico.

      • Kimberly Collins says:

        The real fear-mongering and hate-mongering and vote-buying is going on in the GOP, Rich in New Mexico.

        • rjm2238 says:

          And you, what a well reasoned and well thought out stream of thought. Again, only if it will fit on a bumper sticker…You all are nothing if not consistent.
          Rich in New Mexico.

      • Dana Es says:

        Rich is a fond believer in FOX news and defender of Reagan and Bush while he attacks anything connected to Democrats and mistakenly believes that anyone who disagrees with him is one of those horrible, confused liberals who are destroying what he thinks the world should be. ’nuff said.

  11. Zee says:

    Fiddling. Rome burning. Dancing on graves. Ice cream in hades…. take your pick of metaphors spelling disaster. Hoisted on their own petards? Hopefully.

    • delahaya says:

      No, Rome burned or fell due to the kind of policies liberals love.

      • browninghipower says:

        From your astute comment, I can assume that you not only read Gibbons’ the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire in toto, but followed up on all his annotations in the original Latin and can cite chapter and verse whereupon he makes the argument you so tersely cite in one brilliant statement…when it took him several long volumes to make his case…a case about which you obviously have fucking clue. Got your degree in Roman History at Matchbook U?

      • Kimberly Collins says:

        Yes, please tell us about these Great Society/New Deal style “policies liberals love” that Rome instituted. I studied Latin and Roman history in school, so this will be fascinating. As your statement is completely anachronistic and WRONG.

  12. saywhatsaywhat says:

    FACTS: The only people against Voter ID have something to hide. Besides, if you know how to get a government issued check, you can get a government issued ID.

    • emily sharples says:

      I am vehemently against Voter ID Laws and have less than nothing to hide. I think your “facts” are a bit, um, shall we, nonfactual. As a North Carolina native, I can say that most people I know that live here (granted I live the Triangle) are against these ghastly laws because they are designed to keep people from practicing their constitutional rights. I’ve enjoyed not being asked for my ID when I’ve voted at any time in the past, oh, 11 years. But, I’m also a white woman, so what could I possibly do to anyone that would garner the need for an ID check?

      • suerobb says:

        I want voter ID. I do not want my legal vote cancelled out because of one illegal vote. I have the right to own a gun. IT is a sacred to some as the right to vote and IS ESPECIALLY expressed in the Constitution. I have to show ID to purchase a gun. People who do not have ID cannot purchase a gun either….. are you concerned about that right being oppressed. Poor people shouldn’t be having kids they cannot afford. Not my problem if you insist on having 5 kids you cannot afford or need an abortion because you were too irresponsible to take precautions.
        I am so tired of putting the cost of the poor on everyone else who isn’t contributing to the problem of breeding more poor. Start sterilizing those who insist on breeding who are on welfare. Why should I pay support to kids I didn’t give birth to?
        Poor kids are feed in school while their parents get food stamps. I have not heard of one child dying of starvation that the PARENTS were not blamed for deliberately withholding food.

        A back alley clinic is exactly what you are proposing by rejecting regulations to make clinic safe and clean and ready for emergencies.
        Such theatrics, yawn

        • emily sharples says:

          I’m not going to respond to much of this simply because it’s silly. I said nothing about gun rights. Didn’t even bring it up a little bit. Also didn’t bring up “poor people having 5 kids they can’t afford.” Maybe if folks had affordable and safe access to abortions, there wouldn’t be so many children who cannot be cared for and ones you don’t want to pay for.

          Last thing I will say, though, is that you’re incorrect in your statement that these regulations are to make clinic safer. There are two primary ways folks get abortions, at least around these parts, – a pill called RU-486 that can be used for women who are less than 9 weeks pregnant, and the surgery option which is less invasive than a colonoscopy. This bill isn’t about providing more access to these options, which WOULD make life safer for women in NC. This regulations being introduced in this bill would make it so that only one clinic in our entire state would meet the standards. That’s unacceptable. How does lack of access or availability help women or make them safer? Answer – it doesn’t. It means women have fewer options and then have to have all those kids you hate paying for.

          • suerobb says:

            Who is being silly? just because abortions are legal doesn’t mean the state should provide one for you on your closer street corner at an affordable rate. The right to have one does not mean everyone else jumps through hoops to get it for you. If you were stupid enough not to use a variety of birth control methods available, and you want an abortion, it is up to you to find a clinic to perform it.

            Do not have kids you cannot afford…. condoms are free in health departments. Most of the people having five kids they cannot afford on welfare are doing so to get more money from welfare because we pay them to do nothing more than breed. Stop paying them, get them off their rears and put them to work for their checks. They won’t have the time and will be too tired to make more babies.

            And for you who said people on the street do not have IDs you are correct, nor should they be voting if they do not have a permanent address. How do we know where they “live?” what precinct do they vote in with no address to cross reference?????

          • Kimberly Collins says:

            For the last time, the government DOESN’T provide abortions to women free of charge!

        • Kimberly Collins says:

          If someone else votes fraudulently and you voted in that same precinct, that doesn’t throw out YOUR vote, you fool.

    • fgh says:

      Uh, best check your “facts”, Jack. My 97 year old grandmother has nothing to hide. govt does direct deposit of social security, so she may not know how to get a govt issued check. has never had a driver’s license because she never wanted to drive.

      • suerobb says:

        So did my mother. She never learned to drive but needed ID to open a checking account . She sent away for her birth certificate and went to the police department and got a police ID. She was not rich , lived on a pension. My brother took her to get it.

        All these so call people who have no one to drive them to get an id, no money to get a birth certificate… perhaps all of you who think this is such a big problem can get together and provide transportation and contribute to a fund to pay the fees for birth certificates. Then everyone can have IDs

        • fugitivesquirrel says:

          BINGO! Give the lady a seegar! /sarcasm Lawd, Lawd, Lawd, what are we going to do with you, you poor thing? You just don’t get it, do you?
          I am typing slowly so that you can follow along, sugar. That is what a Poll Tax is, honey, that you have to pay ANYTHING to be able to use your Constitutional RIGHT to vote. It is a RIGHT. And it is guaranteed by the Constitution (look that up, honey, it is under C in the dictionary).

      • rjm2238 says:

        So, you are telling me she has opened her bank account without an ID? She is able to withdraw funds from that account without an ID? If that is the case it must be a Democrat controlled bank; filled with taxpayer dollars, as there would seem to be no controls what so ever on who can simply go down there and withdraw money at any time and without any ID at all.
        Come to think of it; it does sound remarkably like the Obamaphone program and many other Democrat inspired, government programs which are costing us billions in fraud and abuse and you support this.
        We definitely need to rid the country of you people and your corrupt, Chicago style ways. Your staying in positions of authority may be worth that much to you and your crooked Democrat Party allies, but most Americans put the welfare of the nation ahead of the welfare of the Democrat Party.
        Rich in New Mexico.

    • Sand_Cat says:

      You haven’t a clue about people against voter ID, nor, apparently, about much of anything else, either.

  13. suerobb says:

    Kind of reminded me of the federal workers sipping wine in a tub on our buck. And the IRS line dancing.

    • herlod says:

      Isn’t it funny (in a strange way) that there are no Republican Federal workers and no Republican IRS workers. I think you have a bigger story than you think here Sue.

      • OhWelll says:

        The head of the IRS was a Republican as was the guy who key worded Tea Party. There are Republicans throughout every government.

        • rjm2238 says:

          The head of the IRS did that? I thought the administration and its media minions assured us that it was all conceived and carried
          out by low level employees in Cincinnati. If I understand your statement correctly you are suggesting that we do not believe what the administration has stated about this whole seditious affair and who is responsible, is that right?

          Now I realize that as a Democrat you are used to being able to lie and have the media either ignore your lies or worse;
          swear to them, but you are being a little obvious here; or is it simply your arrogance showing? You can’t always have it both ways you know, the truth is going to come out here come heII or high water and when it does I sincerely hope impeachment and jail is on tap for all those involved, all the way to the Oval Office.

          Rich in New Mexico.

          • OhWelll says:

            I’m the one with mental problems, huh? You’re talking about a media-wide conspiracy that goes all the way to the White House. I was simply pointing out that there are Republicans in government and the head of the IRS is one of them. Settle down over there, Alex Jones.

  14. Finetime71 says:

    1. Democrats have not controlled NC for the past 140 years. However, it could be said that NC politics has been dominated by social conservatives, but because of the urban academic centers, NC has made progressive advancements. 2. Voter ID is needed because there hasn’t been any voter fraud at voting polls. Meanwhile, no attention was made about potential fraud with absentee ballots. 3. Voter suppression is o.k. because working people should not have any flexibility in voting times, just like the old days. 4. NC women are nothing more than subservient pawns who should get pregnant when they are young, be mistreated in middle age, and do the pony in the NC legislative chambers when they get old. GOT IT!

  15. Marilyn Bement says:

    You’ve got to be kidding when you refer to NC education system as well respected! It’s already the laughing stock @ 49th in the country. Bev wasn’t the best governor but she’s got this republican clown beat by a mile.

  16. Kent Cerrone says:

    The only thing that’s a laughing stock is this web site.

  17. Ken says:

    Yes, they were voted in by the voters of NC to do exactly what they are doing. Stupid looters are trying to change the result of that vote by whining and throwing tantrums.

    Good job NC Republicans!

    -Ken

  18. Pam says:

    They are all wearing invisible white robes

  19. Travelsteve says:

    Relishing in ones ignorance and arrogance is something most rethuglicans are very good at. Especially it seems in the Southern states. Texas seems to be at the center of this nut fest with Ted Cruz in the center ring of this circus. But to be sure these small minded and clueless nitwits go to bed every night thinking they’re going to succeed in trying to take us back fifty years. Well, it’s not going happen. But it’s sure going to be fun to watch.

  20. mike2000917 says:

    People that oppose Voter ID are advocating for vote fraud. It’s that simple. There can be no other explanation. It is a logical consequence since Democrats are the main perpetrators of voter fraud.

    • browninghipower says:

      Deep sigh…..but here goes. Yo mike with the meaningless numbers unless you’re an end time kind of guy….name and/or cite the large INCREDIBLY FUCKING LARGE NUMBERS OF DEMOCRATIC FRAUD IN THE LAST 13 YEARS!!!! And then please cite the TeaBagger/GOP actual fraud where your kind actually got caught and went to fucking jail. God I’m sick of you lamebrained, brain dead, drooling knuckle-dragging morons. The fact that you vote is a fucking crime and a fraud. Please, go home to Iran.

    • Big Ed says:

      Wrong, and you lied. There has been NO(0) cases of voter fraud in N.C. The people caught were repubs, cheating. You folks lie, you know you’re lying, and think, people are dumb enough to believe you. You gotta be being paid-to-lie, from rove & co.

  21. Big Ed says:

    And here we thought that Miss. and Alabama, were the 2-dumbest states, in the country. N.C. has seriously, moved up that dumb arse-ladder, with their repubs disenfranchising, the people, of the state. And then, they danced a jig to celebrate their ignorance. But what’s worse, is the people, who vote these nitwits in, don’t even know, they’ve been conned, lied-to, and cheated.

  22. gapeterson says:

    They can inflict quite a bit of damage and misery over the next 3 and a half years, they have all the reason in the world to celebrate, until big corporate america finds the politicians have also outlived their usefulness and then the celebrations won’t be so happy…

  23. newvision says:

    And I thought Jesse Helms was scary!

  24. Ruth Ruth says:

    One word: NERO

  25. The BETTER Dave K says:

    With democracy you get the government you deserve.

  26. GaLiberal says:

    The great voters of NC put these asshats in office and only the voters can fix what they themselves created. And if you sit on your fat ass instead of voting don’t whine about the results.

  27. James Gaffney says:

    Uncle Joe Stalin once commented that it did not matter who cast the vote, it mattered who counted the vote. There is the venue of voter fraud.

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