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Saturday, October 1, 2016

Our Politics Is A Mess, But Only One Party Is The Cause

Our Politics Is A Mess, But Only One Party Is The Cause

And another one bites the dust.

But Indiana Sen. Richard Lugar did not go quietly. After last week’s defeat in the GOP primary, the veteran legislator issued a remarkable statement warning of the dangers of continued partisanship. Lugar, a conservative who embraces “the Republican principles of small government, low taxes, a strong national defense, free enterprise, and trade expansion,” was nevertheless targeted for defeat by conservatives who felt he had strayed from ideological orthodoxy. This, because he compromised with the other party on a few matters — the auto industry bailout, TARP, the confirmation of two Supreme Court justices — that were, he thought, “the right votes for the country.”

“Partisans at both ends of the political spectrum,” said Lugar, “are dominating the political debate in our country. … They have worked to make it as difficult as possible for a legislator of either party to hold independent views or engage in constructive compromise. If that attitude prevails in American politics, our government will remain mired in the dysfunction we have witnessed during the last several years.”

The senator is in the ballpark. But he misstates the problem in two ways.

In the first place, the issue is not partisanship, but hyper-partisanship, a mindset that prioritizes party above country. In the second place, Lugar’s sop to moral equivalence notwithstanding, this is not a problem caused by partisans “at both ends of the political spectrum.”

It was not Democrats who held the economy hostage in a manufactured debt ceiling crisis that caused the nation’s credit rating to be lowered for the first time in history. It was not Democrats who voted down their own deficit reduction resolution, apparently because they didn’t want the president to share credit. It was not a Democratic leader who declared defeating the president his top legislative priority.

No, it was Republicans who did all that. And it is not Democrats who have seen a steady trickle of condemnation and defection by their own appalled members.

  • William Deutschlander

    It is the GOP Republican INSANITY of the 21 st century!

  • cfcrawmer3

    excellent article…bout hits the nail on the head doesn’t it!!

  • My beef with Senator Lugar goes back to when Bush/Chaney were itching to invade Iraq. Senator Lugar had international policy credibility and might have made a difference in the debate. Instead he folded, saying, he didn’t agree with the decision but voted for it to support his President. That turned out well.

    • CPANY

      Why do we have such scumbags as political leaders?

      • They did not walk into leadership positions. They were elected by an ill informed or intentionally ignorance electorate. Which of those does not really matter as the result is plain too see.

        • wayneonly

          Lynda, you have hit the nail on the head. THEY WERE ELECTED by voters who followed the “party line” or were enamored by slick ads paid for by big banks and big business. But the problem is not only the Republican party but the Democrats too. The problem is the whole Congress. Three good books for every voter to read are: Winner Take All Politics: How Washington Made The Rich Richer And Turned It’s Back on The Middle Class by Jacob Hacker and Paul Pierson, Throw Them All Out by Peter Schweizer, and Greedy Bastards by Dylan Ratigan. They will open your eyes to the real corruption in Washington and why we (the voter) need to throw them all out. As long as the voter keeps voting the same Congresspeople into office term aster term we will have no representation in Congress because Congress (Democrats and Republicans alike) have been “bought and paid for” by big banks and big business.

          We (the voter) need to resolve that we will vote EVERY incumbent Congressperson out of office when they come up for reelection. Congress has set themselves up as the PERMANENT POLITICAL PARTY. They believe they are the “elite” class and are “entitled to special privileges and are “above the law(s)’ that govern the rest of us. And they have let the American voter down and are not worthy of reelection. It is time we replaced them with new Congresspeople and it is time we got “big money” out of Congress. An it can be done if the voters are willing to educate themselves dedicate themselves to changing Congress.

          • ObozoMustGo

            wayne… BRAVO!!! BRAVO!!!! BRAVO!!!!!

            Excellent post. One of the best I’ve read on here. I’ve been saying the same thing in many of my posts as well. Currently, like the Tea Party or not, they are in fact changing out Congress as we speak and have been working to do so from the Republican side for several years. This is a good thing. The Democrats need the same kind of common sense grass roots movement on their side to do the same thing and get rid of the socialist radicals that have taken their party over since the 60’s. Dont be fooled by the Occupy movement… they are well coordinated and controled by socialists and anarchists and good and decent Democrats should shun them like the disease and flea infested bums they are. Occupy’s goals are chaos, not peaceful change. They ARE the very 60’s radicals that the party needs to purge from it’s ranks.

            Have a nice day!

          • wayneonly

            ObozoMustGo, my goal is not to exult the Tea Party as I consider them obstructionists. They have not endorsed or sponsored any meaningful legislation nor are they willing to work for compromise. But that is just my opinion (and sentiments I have heard from others who wish they had never voted for them). I consider them the main cause of the debt limit debauchle. But they were elected because the voters wanted to make a change in Congress and they did make a change. The biggest problem is that there wasn’t that much change and neither the Republicans not the Democrats took heed of the fact that the voters are (or should be) fed up with the way Congress works (or doesn’t work) now. I advocate voting every incumbent Congressperson out until “we, the people” have got their attention. I feel that even inexperienced Congresspeople can run the government better than the Congress we have now that has no idea what is good for the “real” American people.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Wayne… While you may have ideological differences with the Tea Party, you cannot argue with the simple fact that they in fact doing what you advocate… Changing out the old guard. Of course the change will be obstructionist to the old way of running things. That’s exactly what we want! My point is that the democRATS need the same type of movement to remove the radical leftists fr

          • dtgraham

            So, two parties to the right, politically, of Ghengis Khan is what you pretty much want. Of course the political right is the only thing that’s “objective”. Sure.

          • ObozoMustGo

            dt… you’ve bought the lies and mischaracterizations about conservatives that the left has invented. They have been very good over the years at demonizing us on the right, but it’s simply not true. So your references to Ghenkis Khan are nothing more than empty bullsheet.

            In truth, the Tea Party is about 4 things:

            1) Constitutionally limited government
            2) Fiscal responsibility
            3) Free market enterprise
            4) Personal responsibility

            Those are the principles upon which America was founded and are emboddied in the Constitution. If you want to call those things “to the right of Ghenkis Khan”, you would be calling our founders the same thing.

            You need to step into the real world and get out of those leftist bubbles that insulate you from real America.

            Have a nice day!

          • I suggest you more carefully evaluate what you wish for. Richard Luger, a long term incumbent, wasn’t on our side but he was sensible and had a knack for compromising with those across the isle. The man who replaced him and most of his colleagues believe compromise is the same as surrender and they mean to fight to the death. The new GOP are entirely capable of dragging the entire nation down with them. Witness the debt ceiling debacle and its aftermath. These people don’t care about the common man. They are funded by the Koch brothers and others like them. That’s who they aim to please — not you or me.

          • wayneonly

            Big spender, I’m not sure if you understand what side I’m on. I am on the side of the real American people. I seek a Congress that is not corrupted by greed and by the big money interests. I am neither an advocate of the present administration nor a supporter of Romney. OUR side should be voters who realize that Washington has been corrupted by the “Too Big to Fail Banks” and big business, and want to change the system. The only way to change the way Congress does business (and Congress is BIG BUSINESS for most Congresspeople) is to vote out EVERY incumbent Congressperson until we (the voter) have gotten their attention and they realize that “we (the voter) are fed up and are not going to stand for it anymore.”

  • hdges41

    Once again, Mr. Pitts you have provennyourself to be the voice of conscience. Just wish you would run for office.

  • CPANY

    Boehner has always struck me as being a bit off center mentally, especialkly when he gets emotional to the point of crying. His buddies, Mittens and Ryan, are rational, but they definitely espouse nineteenth century social darwinism as their conscience.

  • Perhaps right wing republicans are just misunderstood. Gosh I wonder if I could become a member of the TEA PARTY. I have no meaningful education, no scruples, no sense of morality, low self esteem, and I’m functionally illiterate. I like to disrespect anyone who doesn’t believe in creationism or who thinks mankind is contributing to the global warming myth. I believe that all non-white or mixed race people are inferior to me and that only poor people should pay taxes. So am I qualified to join?

    • edwardw69

      No, you are not qualified: you use too many big words.

    • ObozoMustGo

      Bigblunder… you’re maybe the dumbest poster on this site… and THAT’S saying something in this sea of leftist insanity dominated by useful idiots!

      Have a nice day!

      • metrognome3830

        Hey! There you are OMG! I was wondering when you would show up. Sleeping in this morning? If you’re going to maintain your upper 5% financial status, you need to be up at least by sunrise. Not to mention you need to be available to battle leftist nutjobs and useful idiots with your rightwing lunacy rebuttals.

        Have a great day.

        • ObozoMustGo

          Hi metro! I hope this day finds you well. I’m just taking a little time to stir the leftist nutjob hornets nest a little bit with some truth serum. 🙂

          Hope you had a nice weekend over Mother’s Day!

          Have a great day, today, as well!

          • forrest57

            SORRY BOZO but as you so eloquently stated I do not sit around and spell check every thing as you must I work for my living as a construction worker UNION of course and im sure that you will have some derogatory remark to make as that is all you can do, like all republicans you forget that your idiot Bush jr put this country in such financial distress that we were downgraded on our financal market but thats OK because Bush is a republican. If you want a country that is full of idiots like you please feel free to move to that place. Here in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA it is we the people not I the rich. but aswsholes like you are a dime a dozen quick with insults and slow on praise. bozo go drink your quota of tea and discriminate against any one that does not belong to the KKK
            good day

          • ObozoMustGo

            Gump… No wonder you have no clue about investment banking and instead have preconceived notions that are completely wrong. You’re no different than any other leftist nutjob that knows so much about so many things that just are not so.

            And you’re wrong. I dont mind private unions, dude. What I do mind is FORCED unionization. You should support right to work laws. They will be better for you and your unions in the long run when people have a right to join or not join, pay dues or not pay dues. Freedom always works best in the long run for all parties. By the way, the only thing your union dues actually go for is lavish salaries and expense accounts for the union bosses that do nothing anyway. But that’s your right to get ripped off if you want, and I would defend your right to be in the union to the end.

            The only unions I do NOT support are public employee unions. All they are is money laundering schemes that bankrupt the taxpayers. Even the original hero of the leftist nutjobs, FDR, was adamantly against public employee unions because he knew the dangers of giving politicians access to the public treasury so they could funnel taxpayer money to unions who in turn funnel it back to the politicians who would vote for larger and more lavish pay schemes for the unions who in turn give it back to the pols….. you get the point. There’s no one representing the taxpayer in that scenario… except someone like Scott Walker in WI. It’s a money laundering schem, plain and simple. And it is bankrupting America’s states, cities, and local governments. It MUST come to an end.

            Stay safe, and don’t hammer your thumb today.

            Have a nice day!

      • Two_Six

        Hey, I’ve been meaning to ask somebody about this Conservative personal attack thing. Do you guys do that to each other when you disagree on issues?

        If not, you clearly think that you all are better than everybody else. How do you identify each other? What’s the group membership criteria?

        • ObozoMustGo

          2… dont let the insults bother you. They dont bother me, and believe me, I get more than anyone on this site. I just like poking leftist nutjobs in the eyes now and again and stiring them up a bit. It’s all in good fun, nothing personal.

          As to being in the “conservative group” you need to demonstrate common sense and an understanding of just how wacked out and screwed up the leftist thinking is. You also must be interested in countering the daily spew of garbage and hit pieces written here on The Memo and recognize that they and much of the media are nothing more than mouthpieces of the coordinated Obozo political propaganda machine.

          But, I’m not holding my breath waiting for you, 2.

          Have a nice day!

          • Two_Six

            Actually, I gained sufficient insight into your root psychology during the Nuclear Winter debates in the 80’s. It seems that you guys would rather rule in Hell than to serve in Heaven.

            I have found being a servant on Earth to be pretty gratifying. I should have no complaint about doing the same job in Heaven. I won’t have to retrain.

            However, I will leave you some advice about that Conservative tendency toward myopia, absolutism and intransigence. Be gentle and flexible or you may inadvertently destroy the very thing you have set out to capture.

          • ObozoMustGo

            2… Now there’s an oddity… a leftist who also seems to be a committed religious man. Good for you. God Bless You! Bet you cant stand it when the atheists on your own leftist team beat you up a bit, eh? They are getting so aggressive these days, dont you think?

            And, I’m willing to be flexible as long as you agree with me! 🙂

            Have a nice day, 2!

          • Two_Six

            Let’s just say that I would be quite happy for Cardinal Dolan to excommunicate me.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Sounds like you’ve done it yourself. No formality needed!

          • Two_Six

            By the way, you should read “Paradise Lost” by John Milton.

          • ObozoMustGo

            that was like close to 30 years ago I read that.

          • ChristoD

            Bozo, you can read ? Well’ I’ll be.

          • ObozoMustGo

            I’ll give you a moment to think of the stupidity of your question, Christo. Bzzzzzzzzz! Times up. You’re an official moron today! Not surprised, I’m sure. It’s a common award for you, no doubt.

            Have a nice day!

          • ChristoD

            Actually Dope-o, oops I mean Bozo, it was a rhetorical question since it is obvious you can’t read but to your credit, you can write, surprisingly. Do you think you could add a bit to your bloviating other than ‘left wing nutjob’ or other redneck curses coming from people like you with IQ’s of 45 ?

          • forrest57

            Obozo it is sad to believe that there are people like you, that think the way you and your cult do. it is more than sad it is pethetic but as we asy here in the south when we know that the ignorant have no common sence and less compasion, blinded by the rich, which you envy and wish to emulate. BLESS YOUR POOR LITTLE HEART!

          • ObozoMustGo

            Hey Gump! Go see my reply to you on “Why Wall Street Needs……..”

            Have a nice day!

          • Two_Six

            I must confess that I am amazed at how consistently you have failed to process and connect the dots behind everything I’ve written. The line about ruling in Hell was straight out of Milton’s Paradise Lost. The point is that the uncompromising and maniacal pursuit of power is ultimately self-destructive.

            You Conservatives are so adversarial; so focused on an enemy that you can’t hear the volcano erupting behind you or see the lava encroaching around you. This dialogue confirms that perception that has taken 40 years to crystallize.

            But don’t stop on account of me. Please, continue your jousting. Provide the example. Other novices need to be educated.

          • ObozoMustGo

            2.. it’s about time conservatives are adversarial. The fact that we’ve been silent for the better part of 80 years while the feckless Republicans went along with all the socialism the left could invent is EXACTLY WHY we are in such financial trouble today. The time for compromising with the devils on the left is over. Now it’s the leftist nutjobs turn to be doing all the compromising with us.

            Have a nice day!

          • Two_Six

            Suicidal and KNOW IT!

            If all the sane people left for a different planet, would you follow us?

          • ObozoMustGo

            Please make it a promise that you and all the rest of the leftist nutjobs leave for a different planet. I am sure there’s someplace else out there that you and the rest of your ilk on the left could ruin equally as bad as you have ruined earth! Good riddens to you!

            I am the liferaft of truth in this sea of leftist insanity called “The Memo”.

            Have a nice day!

          • skytimer01

            Bozo, I will save a seat for you.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Thanks sky… I knew I liked you for some reason. 🙂 🙂

            Have a nice day!

          • Your insults don’t bother us either. We recognize the denial and twisted thinking of mouthpieces for the Republican Party from nut-cases like you. You know the ‘day is night, black is white mentality! You’re all turned around! Its crazy! LOL! Hey! But its fun to “poke” at you too!

            Have a wonderful evening!

          • ObozoMustGo

            Good for you Susan.

            Have a nice evening!

        • turnipgreens

          Now, I know, that after eight years of Bush blunders, you cannot possibly think that the GOP has all the answers. You just hate the idea that there are very smart people on the left. Give us a chance to right this country like Clinton did. We love the hatred you genrate because it solidifies the intelligent people to make better choices. Keep up the good work!

          • Two_Six

            My comments didn’t seem progressive to you?

      • BOZO — coming from you that’s a real compliment. Thank you.

        • ObozoMustGo

          No problem, Bigbludner, buddy. I’m here to help.

          Have a nice day!

      • hubydoll166

        COME ON NOW BOZO, YOU KNOW YOU HOLD THAT TORCH..ALWAYS. iTS VERY AMUSING WAITING FOR YOUR BRAINDEAD COMMENTS..YOUR LIKE THE BLACK SHEEP OF THIS SITE..YOU BEEN LOCKED AWAY IN THE CELLAR TOO LONG. gIVE IT SOME TIME AND YOU MIGHT GROW A BRAIN.

        • ObozoMustGo

          Good one, huby! Keep ’em coming. 🙂

          Have a nice day!

      • patuxant

        OMG!!! You Must Go!

    • Two_Six

      YOU GO BOY!

      “No scruples” is the hole in the dike. Good call.

      Let me just add that there are two kinds of people: those who want to stand for God and uplift their fellow man and those want to stand in place of God and oppress their fellow man. Conservatives are the latter.

      • Gas is high, blame Obama,right? Gas comes down, give him credit? yea right

  • howa4x

    The Republicans, and Fox news created this new dynamic in politics. Ann Coulter, Glen Beck, and Rush didn’t disagree with the democrats,they demonized them with a constant blare on the airwaves , books, ersatz news and print. Instead of having a debate on the issues like how we would insure 32 million Americans, the republicans walked out and said the democrats were planing death panels. Beck said we should poision Pelosi. So now the old guard of the republican leadership cringes at what they created, a group who think the democrats are commiting treason, and will not deal with them. The era of bi-partisonship is over and the era of war has begun. The Tea party sees it as a fight to the finish. Take no prisioners attitude, and no time for the faint of heart. There is no middle to the faithful and their backers, now it’s just them and us.

  • There is hyperpartisanship on both ends. On the very far left end, there are plenty of people who called the mainstream Dems who compromised, “pink tutus”, and plenty more who wanted Obama to ram legislation right over the top of the GOP. The difference is they don’t get their way the way the extreme right does. They know who they are. They might want to consider marching FOR a highly targeted solution once in a while, rather than submitting rambling manifestos or no no no and nothing but no.

  • ObozoMustGo

    DISTRACTIONS………. DISTRACTIONS…………….. DISTRACTIONS……..

    Lenny, Lenny, Lenny… there you go again carrying Obozo’s water for him and playing your role in the state run media and propaganda machine! Creating falsehoods and distractions to keep our eyes turned away from the biggest failure of a president in our nation’s history. Let’s examine and remember the facats:

    BH Obozo has had a sum total of 1 (one) success. Ordering the killing of OBL. That’s it. There is nothing else in 4 years. Nothing. And even that isnt really as big a deal for him as it is for the soldiers who actually did the mission.

    Lets take a look at some of Obozo’s other “successes”…….

    1) Obozo comes into office $9T in debt. 3.5 years later, $16T in debt. The largest increas in national debt in the history of the world. Nice accomplishment, Obozo!
    2) 2 years complete control of the government. NO budget as required by the Constitution. Still has no budget. The one budget he presented that was actually voted on by the Senate went down to defeat by a vote of 97 to 0. Nice work Mr. President!!! THAT IS an accomplishment!
    3) A new bankrupting entitlement program called Obozocare jammed through congress against the vast majority of Americans who were against it (and still are) and with the blessings of the idiot Nancy Piglosi who said “we have to pass the bill before we know what is in it”. And after all that, the crowing achievement of this president will be struck down like a rabid dog by the SCOTUS. Nice work, Mr. President!
    4) Persistent unemployment that has been the worst since the Great Depression, especially among blacks and young people. His administration keeps claiming unemployment is going down, but in reality, they manipulate the formula by reducing the # of jobs available. And then they claim that over 8% unemployment is good! Quite an accomplishment in propaganda, but not economics, Mr. President.
    5) Promises to close Gitmo…. instead, he spends $750K on a soccer field for terrorists. Dont get me wrong, Gitmo should stay open. This is an example of how stupid and naive Obozo really is. Nice accomplishment, Mr. President!
    6) Gas prices are up 100%++ across the nation. And Obozo is so dumb he actually believes that increasing supply has no effect on prices… what an idiot! Blocking EVERY permit that has come before his administration and blocking pipelines that increase supplies does HAVE consequences, Mr. President. Gas prices are through the roof! Nice going Mr. President!
    7) Real inflation rates are close to 8% or higher. Who measures inflation without food and fuel??????? Obozo does! Another strong achievement in propaganda, Mr. President!
    8) SOLYNDRA!!!!!!!! need I say more?
    9) OK, I will. SOLAR TRUST… another BILLION DOLLAR boondoggle in your attempt to play venture capitalist with taxpayer money that actually goes to your FAT CAT financier friends who are big donors. Nice money laundering accomplishment, Mr. President! Should I say more? OK.. I will…
    10) ECOTALITY – Another “green” Obozo investment disaster. Obozo gave them $115 MILLION. The SEC investigates fraud at the company. While that’s going on, Obozo gives them another $26 MILLION…. What an idiot! Nice accomplishment Mr. President!
    11) Fast and Furious!!!!! If this was a Republican Admin, all of you nutjobs that write on this web site would be going justifiably ballistic!! It would be the lead story on ABC, CBS, NBC, MSLSD, CNN, etc. etc.
    12) Same with the crook Jon Corzine. He steals $2B in client money, much of it farmers money, to cover his own bad bets. Then he gets to continue on raising money for Obozo like nothing ever happened. Where is Eric The Incompetent Holder? ……… crickets………. crickets……….. crickets………. Thought so!

    I’ll continue to refocus the discussion on what is important and not these foolish smokescreens the left throws up to obfuscate Obozo’s true failure as a socialist in the White House.

    Have a nice day!

    • wlstck58

      and Bush was a genius I guess and caused non of the problems we are now dealing with. Republicans are like orstrichs with their heads in the sand. Very pitiful.

      • ObozoMustGo

        sticky… as bad as Bush was, Obozo is 10x worse! As well, Bush was not a socialist with a deeply held conviction in the “redistributive” policies and belief system that Obozo holds. Besides, that’s irrelevant anyway. Obozo has been around nearly 4 years. He’s got to start taking credit for his own record at some point.

        I’m just the messenger telling the truth here. I’d swear more than half of you useful idiots would vote for the clown even if he was caught on tape having sex with children. You’re all that bad!

        Have a nice day!

    • I’ll take the socialist any day over greedy, racist, GOP!

      OBAMA 2012!

      • ObozoMustGo

        Stella… I commend you for being at least an honest socialist, albeit wrong on the race issue.

        Have a nice day!

    • How bout you get a few facts straight ? FIRST, BUSH came into office $0 dollars in debt and went to over $9Billion. SECOND the world was at peace when BUSH entered office, and BUSH Started THREE WARS. THIRD, Gas prices were less than a buck a gallon when BUSH came into office, and he left when they were over $3.50. Oh yes BUSH managed to get the U.S. REMOVED from the United Nations governing council, Bush allowed the single most deadly terrorist attack on U.S. soil, and responded by saying “I don’t care where Bin Laden is.” Bush MAnufactured false evidence in order to invade Iraq, Hmmm, let’s see, what else? Bush EXPANDED government over 30% with his stupid department of homeland defense and Fema expansio, and STILL couldn’t find Bin Laden OR get water to the hurricane victims, oh and he ignored the report that said the dikes in New Orleans needed to be rebuilt, so instead spent over 10 times the amount of money repairing the CITY!!. Bush raised the debt celing 17 TIMES TO PAY FOR HIS WARS!!! And after all that, and those are just the highlights, you want someone like Mitt in office?

      • ObozoMustGo

        JR… how much of a moron are you?…. wait…. dont answer that. I already know you’re a leftist nutjob which by default places you in single digit IQ territory.

        First off, you may be surprised to know that Bush did not come into office with $0 debt. You are mistaking debt for budget deficits. Clinton and Gingrich, though bitter enemies, actually worked well together to achieve a semblence of a balanced budget, hence a ZERO DEFICIT. However, the debt is the accumulation of deficits over the history of the country. Bush came in to office with about $6T in national debt and left office with about $10T in national debt. Those figures come the the US Treasury website. It took him 8 years to increase the debt by $4T. Here is the data.

        Date ———— Dollar Amount
        09/30/2010 13,561,623,030,891.79
        09/30/2009 11,909,829,003,511.75
        09/30/2008 10,024,724,896,912.49
        09/30/2007 9,007,653,372,262.48
        09/30/2006 8,506,973,899,215.23
        09/30/2005 7,932,709,661,723.50
        09/30/2004 7,379,052,696,330.32
        09/30/2003 6,783,231,062,743.62
        09/30/2002 6,228,235,965,597.16
        09/30/2001 5,807,463,412,200.06
        09/30/2000 5,674,178,209,886.86

        Now, dont get me wrong… Bush was not a fiscal conservative by any means, but there are 2 points worthy of note:

        1) Bush’s fiscal record was the worst following the takeover of congress by the DumbocRATS in Jan. 2007. He was too weak and gave in.
        2) Prior to that, Bush’s largest budget deficit was around $400 Billion. How many of us would pray to get back to even those irresponsible days?

        Now, we get Obozo in 1/2009 and all possibilities of fiscal sanity are thrown out the door with the DumbocRATS in complete control of the White House and with super majorities in the Congress. Obozo has raised the National Debt, WITHOUT EVEN A CONSTITUTIONALLY REQUIRED BUDGET, to just barely shy of $16 TRILLION in debt in 3.5 years. THAT IS AN ASTOUNDING FAILURE AND ABSOLUTION OF LEADERSHIP AND RESPONSIBILITY. Unfortunately, it’s going to get worse.

        At some point, you leftist nutjobs have got to start thinking with your calculators and not with your party loyalty. Once you do, you’ll open you eyes, maybe, and get rid of the party loyalty in favor of loyalty to America first.

        You clowns around here think that because I am against all of your leftist nutjob ideals, that I am a Republican l0yalist. NOTHING can be further from the truth. I am very happy when I see establishment Republicans getting their a$$e$ handed to them in the primaries. The entire party needs to be refreshed. I’d go for a 3rd party but it’s just not practical in a constitutional republican system like we have. Hence, just like the radical socialists of the 60’s took over the DumbocRATic party, so must those of us who are constitutional conservatives take over the Republican party to counteract the far left tilt and ultimate bankruptcy of our once great Republic that has happened since the advent of Piglosi, Reid, and Obozo along with his cadre of leftist czars who are ruling the country.

        So while you like to play tit-for-tat politics and party loyalty talking points, I will continue to point out what a loser-in-chief that Obozo really is.

        Have a nice day!

    • For the sake of the Republic, somebody needs to find this idiot a job.

      • ObozoMustGo

        I’m doing just fine, Ren… thanks for your concern. Now, back to that crack pipe of yours…..

        Have a nice day!

    • Don’t you love the way that Obama, apparently all my himself, managed to jam through Obamacare in only fourteen months? That some jamming my friend. All done with hundred of hours in committee hearings, panel discussions and lets not forget all of the amendments put forth. What a nice set of factoids

      • ObozoMustGo

        He did have the help of Piglosi and Cowboy Poetry Dirty Harry Reid.

        Have a nice day!

    • dtgraham

      If Romney had been elected in 2008, there would be no GM and no Chrysler, by his own words. Today GM is the number one auto maker in the world again and Chrysler is a going concern. Obama saved the US auto industry by that decision. Also, approximately 30 million more Americans have health insurance today, than would have had, were it not for the ACA. I’m well aware of Obama’s failings, but those two things alone should get him re-elected.

      • ObozoMustGo

        dt… we will disagree on this, but politicians have NO business taking tax payer dollars to prop up failing private businesses. And when you look at the details of how Obozo orchestrated the GM and Chrylser bailouts, he basically had to force the bankruptcy courts to take illegal actions by breaking the law and forcing bondholders, who are in first position contractually, to take pennies on the dollar in exchange for giving freebie equity stakes in the company to the unions. The bondholders are the big rich guys you think they are. They were pension funds of teachers and police and firemen and savings of little old ladies and others who have supported that company for decades that Obozo screwed for his union buddies in an illegal bankruptcy orchestrated by his cronies. And where are we today? GM still owe’s BILLIONS that will never be repaid.

        Re: Obozocare… what a debacle that piece of crap legislation is. It never was about insuring the uninsured. It was and still is about a government takeover of healthcare, which at least 60% of America is completely against. We also know now that Obozo’s estimate of costs was wildly low and it is known that Obozo care will cost us AT LEAST $2 TRILLION in the next 8 years. That’s $2 TRILLION more in a budget where we are flat out broke!

        If you want to call those things accomplishments, that’s your choice. I just find that when you know the real truth of those 2 things, calling them “accomplishments” is sort of like grasping at straws.

        Thanks for you input, dt.

        Have a nice day!

  • I see in some of my conservative friends the reflection of a “belief pattern” being preached from the pulpit of talk radio and FAUX NOOSE. Unfortunately “belief” does not respond to logic, because belief and so called “faith” requires a suspension of logic. We can only hope these neo-con ideologes will have an epiphany of some sort.

  • Jerrold Soff

    wow, finally seeing in print what I’ve been saying for years, the republican nazi party being exposed for what it really is.

    • ObozoMustGo

      Jer… Why do I have to keep doing this??????? Let’s get the facts straight once and for all.

      NAZI is an acronym for National SOCIALIST Party. Whic of the 2 parties in America more closely identifies with socialist ideals? Come on, boy, you can answer that one. That’s riiiiight! The DemocRATic party is where the socialists in America go. So the next time you want the throw out the “Nazi tag” just remember that, by very definition, it applies to you leftist nutjobs waaayyyy more than it does to conservatives.

      Now go reload your bong. It’s getting lonely.

      Have a nice day!

      • Two_Six

        ZEIG HEIL!!!!!!

        • ObozoMustGo

          hehehehehehehehehehehehe!!!! 🙂

  • We need to oust the party of NO. They are not listening the majority of American’s who value compromise

  • I personally find it very sad that the Republican Party has become so radical that even long standing members are pushed out or run from it like a bat-out-of-hell. A divided Country like this one is cannot function without compromise. It is bad for our Country and bad for Democracy when compromise is impossible. I have been voting for half a century, and although I am and always will be a progressive, I have a history of voting for Republicans – when I felt they were the better person for the job. That is no longer true, too many of them have lied about what they stand for and will do, too many are so caught up in abortion that they no longer function, and they are way too interested in what other people are doing in the bedroom. At one time they were a reasonable party, they helped pass Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, and many other progressive programs, they even came up with a few on their own – today that is no longer true. The Republican party of today is a slash and burn operation with no compassion for anything or anyone who will not walk in lock-step with their religious beliefs or ideas.

  • The Republican party is an old boys party with no modern ideas. They have known to just attack anybody who do not like what they say and with it will make things bad,that the only result is war.They are leading America backwards, even the home of modern tech is now lacking behind Newtt had some small modern ideas like colonising space just when the U.S spacecraft has been grounded., when the party has promised to cut Gov. spending

  • Mr. Lugar at least have said the truth but just a little too late, because he has been part of the team if even not the captain, he should have come out long ago,. The party need to find new and young men with modern ideas to help solve problems and not to respect their fathers orders like Bush jr. going to war because he was in charge. I will predict that if and only if Romney wins (AMERICA WILL GO TO WAR AGAIN,) be it east or west or even Africa

  • turnipgreens

    The Good old Party of good ole boys is headed down a slippery slope this election. I predict some balance taking place in America this fall. It is probable that both House and Senate will gain Democratic seats. To a Super Majority in the Senate and at least a majority in the House. And of course, Barack will go back in. I predict he will carry swing states because people are afraid of the likes of Romney. If he cannot debate a “black man of limited intelligence” as was described by Rush, then he will falter and I predict at least the same electorial majority as Obama held over McCain. Romney’s only chance will be a VP selection that holds sway over voters. But, who can that be? Who can predict his VP choice? I think most are too out of touch and not so well known as to be ineffective. Will it be McDonald from Virginia? Your thoughts?

    • ObozoMustGo

      turnip… Obozo is going to lose in a landslide. Mark my words. Even his own internal polls are showing it, and that’s why he’s turned hard left for this election and has already conceded the middle ground. His only chance is to rile up the hardcore base of leftist nutjobs and useful idiots like most of you dummies on The Memo site. It’s why is personal approval ratings are now BELOW his job approval ratings.

      Obozo will soundly bounced out of office. My only worry is what damage he’ll do with a lame duck Senate session and disastrous treaties he will get ratified.

      Have a nice day!

      • BOZO — when you see that you’re wrong and Obama is re-elected handily, does that mean you will finally just give up and go away?

  • ObozoMustGo

    Psychology 101

    If you start with a cage containing five monkeys and inside the cage, hang a banana on a string from the top and then you place a set of stairs under the banana, before long a monkey will go to the stairs and climb toward the banana.

    As soon as he touches the stairs, you spray all the other monkeys with cold water.

    After a while another monkey makes an attempt with same result … all the other monkeys are sprayed with cold water. Pretty soon when another monkey tries to climb the stairs, the other monkeys will try to prevent it.

    Now, put the cold water away.

    Remove one monkey from the cage and replace it with a new one.

    The new monkey sees the banana and attempts to climb the stairs. To his shock, all of the other monkeys beat the crap out of him. After another attempt and attack, he knows that if he tries to climb the stairs he will be assaulted.

    Next, remove another of the original five monkeys, replacing it with a new one.

    The newcomer goes to the stairs and is attacked. The previous newcomer takes part in the punishment…… with enthusiasm.

    Then, replace a third original monkey with a new one, followed by the fourth, then the fifth. Every time the newest monkey takes to the stairs he is attacked.

    Now, the monkeys that are beating him up have no idea why they were not permitted to climb the stairs. Neither do they know why they are participating in the beating of the newest monkey.

    Finally, having replaced all of the original monkeys, none of the remaining monkeys will have ever been sprayed with cold water. Nevertheless, not one of the monkeys will try to climb the stairway for the banana.

    Why, you ask? Because in their minds…that is the way it has always been!

    This, my friends, is how Congress operates… and this is why, from time to time:

    ALL of the monkeys need to be REPLACED AT THE SAME TIME.

    Have a nice day!

    • Two_Six

      Let me add that you should never travel outside of highly developed areas. In particular, make sure that you are never more than twenty minutes away from a modern medical facility with a a state-of-the-art trauma center.

      Talk about fragile. You make Humpty Dumpty look like Chobham Armour.

      • ObozoMustGo

        Like I just said…. you obviously have fired up your crack pipe, 2.

        Have a nice high!

  • I don’t think so we spend our own money. Last I counted Mitt got two degrees from Harvard….Obama one…..and thats iffy

    • ObozoMustGo

      I dont think Obozo ever graduated anything. He’s was stoned on cocaine and pot and LSD for his entire college days. If he did graduate anything, I guarantee you his grades were so pathetic that all the leftist nutjobs and useful idiots out there could no longer believe the lie of how “smart” Obozo is when in fact he’s actually very stupid. That’s why he will never release his academic records, unlike everyone else that has run for president.

      Have a nice day!

    • Two_Six

      I happen know from reputable, independent sources within the collegiate academic community that Obama’s credentials (Summa Cum Laude) are legitimate.

      Ignoring that for a second, on what grounds do you dispute Obama’s legitimacy and advocate Romney’s?

  • jnap

    The conservative tea party criterion for membership is to remove half of your brain; the parts that think and have reason and replace it with high fructose corn syrup or perhaps Trans fat. You know something that takes up space, tastes good, but has no nutritional value. Once equipped with reduced thinking capacity make outrageous statements and claims backed by nothing but opinion gleamed from years of being around others with equal mental impairment.
    The Tea party is the only group of people I know that will consistently vote against their own interests.

  • sleeprn01

    Hey two_six,
    It’s easy for them to identify who’s in their club. They are like dogs, they sniff each others asses, they each have the sent of money and absolutely no sent of morality.

  • Two_Six

    To: ObozoMustGo

    There are two types of people: those who love God and respect their fellow man and those who want to be God and oppress their fellow man. You seem to be the latter.

    I have some advice for you.

    1. You have not the power of creation and, if you had the power of uncreation, you’d be sorry if you ever used it.

    2. Despite your revulsion with equality, you might not want to alienate everybody. Even the Living God gets lonely.

    • ObozoMustGo

      2…. you must have fired up the crack pipe before this post!

      Have a nice day!

      • Two_Six

        Do you really think I need drugs to have a spiritual insight?

        • ObozoMustGo

          2… not really! 🙂 But I will say that you are DEAD wrong in what you think conservatives actually believe. Dead wrong!!!! Almost all lefties are dead wrong about what we believe and how we think. For some reason, your brains just cant process the same way. On the other hand, most conservatives do understand lefties fairly well. There are studies that prove this to be true.

          I think I recommended a book to you in another thread. “The Righteous Mind” by Jonathan Haidt, didnt I. You should read it.

          Have a nice day!

  • Two_Six

    I first began to understand the Conservative mind during the Nuclear Winter (NW) debates of the 1980’s. The argument at that time was that the U. S. and U.S.S.R. had 60,000 nuclear warheads between them, but that only 100 nuclear warheads would be enough to fatally upset the climate and kill everything.

    Nuclear arms reduction by both sides was the logical response to this Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) scenario, but Conservatives were adamant that we should not give up any of our precious bombs and that there would be no treaty with the Russians (their ideological and, therefore, mortal enemies).

    During an episode of The Phil Donahue Show, a young Conservative took the microphone and said,

    “I understand the physics, but why would we want to limit our response?”

    Everyone, including me, dismissed the question as stupid because we assumed that survival should be everyone’s first logical priority. It has taken me thirty years to understand that, for Conservatives, that is not necessarily the case.

    Conservatives couldn’t envision what a nuclear war would do to the Country or to the planet. They had tunnel vision directed solely toward throwing more nukes than the Russians, even if it killed them. In their minds, they were defending an omnipotent self image. That self image, righteously uncompromising and ideologically pure, was more important to them actual survival as equals to their mortal enemies, the Russians.

    It finally took a movie called “The Day After,” which Conservatives tried to suppress, but it made Reagan finally see the light. He wrote in his diary that it left him very depressed, but he signed the START treaty with Gorbachev that year.

    So when you read the fanatical intransigence of ObozoMustGo or other Right Wing bloggers, consider their words in this context. They would rather rule in Hell than to serve in Heaven.

    • CAThinker

      Bravo 2-6. Well reasoned and articulated. There is a third alternative to ruling in Hell or serving in Heaven… A cautious, but peaceful existence on earth… which seems to be the path we took…

      • Two_Six

        Thank you. Now, if we can just keep Conservatives from dragging us all to Hell.

  • shivabeach

    Who in the hell thinks you can have a strong national defense like the one wanted by Romney and have low taxes? Herr Bush tried that and look at us now

  • The stock market crashed with disastrous worldwide effects, first in America, then the rest of the world. Companies went bankrupt, banks failed and people instantly lost their life’s savings. Unemployment soared and poverty and starvation became real possibilities for everyone. The people panicked. Fear ruled. Give the public someone to blame. And so Adolph Hitler used that fear to manipulate the masses into blaming the Jews for all their woes. What had began as a campaign to solve the perceived Jewish problem in Germany quickly transformed into a campaign against all perceived Sin. The Sinners within Nazi Germany were considered all communists, liberals, intellectuals, homosexuals, pagans, atheists, dissenting artists, dissenting authors, dissenting scientists and educators, political objectors, pacifists, and a host of others. These doctrines were also expanded to include the black race, all mental illnesses, the physically deformed, and those physically and mentally handicapped; claiming these conditions were the physical and genetic manifestation of Sin.
    Today seems things are not much different. It’s all reminiscient of early Nazi party in 1930’s Germany. The historical parallels are frightening. Just look what’s going on around you…
    First they went after ACORN, and I didn’t speak up because I’m not an inner city black.
    Then they went after the unions, and I didn’t speak up because I’m not a union member.
    Then they went after DADT and gay marraige, and I didn’t speal up because I am a heterosexual.
    Then they went after Planned Parenthood, and I didn’t speak up because I am not female.
    Then they went after illegal aliens and anchor babies, and I didn’t speak up because I’m American born and raised.
    Then they went after AARP, and I didn’t speak up because I’m under 50 and not yet retired.
    Then they went after the U.S Post Office, but I am not a veteran in need of a job.
    Then they went after National Endowment for the Arts (NEA), NPR and PBS… even the Girl Scouts.
    Anything to divide a nation.
    It’s the part and parcel of the conservative/republican agenda, to attack and destroy organizations that do not support their political and cultural ideology. A conspiracy to stop the democrats in 2012, Karl Rove was open about what the ultimate goal is. Going after Acorn was the first in a series of actions the Repubs have taken to undermine the democratic vote. That’s because Acorn was so successful at registering black voters. Then they came after the unions because they get out democratic voters. Kill the unions and their ability to impact local and national campaigns. “We must close union offices, confiscate their money and put their leaders in prison. We must reduce workers’ salaries and take away their right to strike.” – Adolph Hitler, May 2, 1933. Then they went after AARP, because it opposes privatization of Social Security, supports the Affordable Care Act, and its executives give disproportionately to Democrats. On and on and on.
    Look what’s going on in Wisconsin, Ohio, Michigan, Florida and a host of other Red states. billionaire political operatives Charles and David Koch have bought access to democracy’s lifeblood: free and fair elections. The Koch brothers supported by A.L.E.C. have funded efforts to thwart 21 million Americans from voting and Koch dollars helped write and propose voting suppression bills in 38 states.Voter suppression laws passed around the U.S. will put ballot boxes out of reach for 21 million Americans eligible to vote, many of whom are African American, Hispanics, low- income poor, physically disabled, students and seniors. Just like efforts by Ohio’s Gov to manipulate early voting, mail-in votes and same day registration. This attack on our voting rights is an affront to our democracy.
    This is America. We do not take away people’s rights. We fight for them. It’s not the Judeo/Christian way and it’s not the American way. This country is heading into the toilet. We are losing our values. Stop the hating maybe we’ll stop the hurting

    • franteburget

      Very well thought out and written. It’s a relief to read something that doesn’t waste space and time by senseless raving. I hate the words, “They should..” They, who”? As you point out, we are all guilty to some extent to several of these problem. We need to think and about them and “own them”. and maybe we’ll find a way to help. rather than cry about the Proverbial water under the bridge.