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Saturday, October 22, 2016
  • Bill

    The GOP is where the real death panels are.

  • ObozoMustGo

    And now…. The REAL Cartoon Of The Day!

    Finally, we have bipartisan agreement…

    Have a nice day!

    “I don’t think your boss should get to control the health care you get. I don’t think insurance companies should control the care that you get. I don’t think politicians should control the care that you get. I think there’s one person to make these decisions on health care and that is you.” – Guess who said it

    • Allan Richardson

      In the world of reality, the fact is that, without any regulation to the contrary, the “Rex Privatus” of the insurance industry has total PRACTICAL control over their policyholders’ health care. Obamacare does not “control your health care,” it only says that the insurance companies cannot collude to make sure THEY control it. If you meet someone who COULD NOT get any coverage before, ask them (once the web site is working, which should be a few more weeks) if their PRESENT situation could have gotten any worse than after Obamacare.

      And by the way that “bipartisan agreement” is the combination of people like you who want NO control over insurance companies, and people who would REALLY prefer single payer. The latter are happy we are finally making this baby step. Yes, you can scream “SOCIALISM” all you want, but to someone who would have DIED without it, I don’t think they really care if “socialism” saved their life, or would have preferred no socialism even if they died without it. That gives a NEW meaning to the 1950’s “better dead than Red” motto.

      • ObozoMustGo

        Allan… a few things…

        1) Why are politicians and bureaucrats to be trusted to “control” insurance companies? How did they become the masterminds of the universe that know more than everyone else?

        2) I do know someone that has a preexisting condition. She had ovarian cancer and is completely cured. But that particular cancer is considered never really cured. She does pay her own insurance at $600 per month, but has no deductibles with that plan. She is losing her plan because it does not qualify under ACA. The only one she can get is with Obozodon’tcare at around $300 per month with a $6500 per year deductible. Her costs have gone up from $7200 to $10,100 per year. She is PISSED!!! She’s one of those morons that voted for Obozo and believed his lies about “if you like your plan, you can keep it”. She’ll never vote for another DemonRAT again and I have made sure of it. There are millions of people getting screwed by Obozodon’tcare. And yes, she realizes the disaster that socialism is.

        3) The only way to “fix” healthcare is to get the government out of it and to make health insurance what it is suppose to be: INSURANCE. What we have now is a perverse incentive system that makes people think they can get something for nothing because someone else pays their tab. There’s no such thing as a free lunch, pal. Instead, insurance is meant to cover the catastrophic things, not routine maintenance. Car insurance is a great example of how any insurance system should work. It doesn’t pay for your oil changes or brakes or tires. It only pays if you have an accident. There’s a robust, highly competitive marketplace and costs are low. Imagine if we made car insurance companies pay for routine maintenance. Then put a million blood sucking lawyers over top of mechanics. And massive government bureaucracies to over see mechanics and insurance companies. What do you think would happen to the costs of autocare? They would skyrocket to the point where only wealthy people could afford cars. Do you understand this? Really. Do you understand this?

        4) Obozodon’tcare DOES control my healthcare. This crap law that a large majority of Americans did NOT want, and still don’t want, fundamentally changes the relationship of government to the citizens. What do you call the IPAB? That is the rationing board. Why is the government dictating what kind of health insurance plan millions of Americans can and cannot have? If that is not control of my healthcare, I don’t know what is. You are on heavy drugs if you think otherwise. Or you’re simply so blinded by your devotion to your messiah, Obozo, that you just cannot be objective.

        Obozodon’tcare is a sheet sandwich no matter how you cut it up. Everyone knows this. Only the most blind faithful are chicken to call it what it is and speak the truth. If it was just about healthcare for the most poor, there’s way better ideas out there that do not require the creation of a completely new, multi-TRILLION dollar bureaucracy that nationalizes 1/6 of our economy. Obozodon’t care is NOTHING about healthcare. It’s about government control. It’s about dependency and another permanent monolithic voting block for DemonRATS. That’s all it’s about. Face the facts.

        Have a nice day!

        “Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don’t mean to do harm– but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves.” — T. S. Eliot

        • infadelicious

          If the gov’t looks after our health care as well as they do our finances , we are screwed!to sum up:

        • George D

          OK…..Clown…..My father who was always self employed paid for two decades on an individual insurance…..when time for a life saving gal bladder removal came about….he was flat denied….seems once in a twenty year period the insurance company found a high blood pressure reading to deny him coverage. He later had a stroke from the pain and heart damage that the lack of surgery caused. So you think the insurance companies are not to be regulated by a government? Have you been sniffing Sara Palin’s shorts?

          • ObozoMustGo

            You are apparently incapable of understanding what is written. Not surprising at all for a leftist freak like you. The equivalent of your father’s situation would be paying for car insurance and then getting in an accident and the insurance company backing out. No one suggests that there be NO regulation, just that the government’s role be reduced to the equivalent of a referee in a football game. Right now, they are both referee AND participant, and they have been for decades. This is why healthcare is so screwed up and in contrast auto insurance and auto care are low cost and ubiquitous.

            Go back and read what I wrote again. Dispute me on the facts, not on your emotional drivel.

            Have a nice day!

            “Government is the great fiction, through which everybody
            endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.” — Frederic Bastiat, French economist (1801-1850)

          • George D

            I can only read what you put down… need to read your own comments. I will go one step further……insurance for profit companies and their for profit hospitals are not getting the competition they need. Single payer, government mandated, medicare type agency must be reinstated in the ACA. Obama gave in to Republicans and Blue Dog Democrats. As for Auto Insurance… the state I live, the state regularly sues and removes insurance companies from the state on auto insurance. Also, minimum standards are established by the state and fine print double talk in policies are regulated. The only participant part I see is the mandate {a creature of Republican think tanks} and this is necessary to prevent cherry picking by the insurance companies. So you apparently agree with the minimum standards provisions the ACA, otherwise. If you have ever tried to take on an insurance company on your own, you would quickly find they can hire better attorneys and hold out much longer than you can.

          • ObozoMustGo

            George, you are much too committed to an ideology that has proven a failure everywhere it’s been tried. Socialism in healthcare (and anything else) is destructive because it goes against human nuture and requires coercion of humans to bend to it’s will. Further, without profit motive in the system, there is no incentive for efficient utilization or distribution of resources, and therefore it is impossible to have lower costs without rationing and poor quality. We need a completely free market in healthcare to solve the problems of cost and availability. While you may cite certain issues or problems with auto insurers in your state, those are by far the rare exception and not the rule. The example of the efficiency and cost competitiveness of auto insurance and autocare is 100% applicable to the health insurance and health care markets. Economically speaking, there is no difference.

            Your desire for socialized medicine as a solution is nothing short of a fantasy.

            Have a nice day!

            “Rule of thumb… never trust what comes from the mouth of a socialist politician. They are only lying to you so they can spend other people’s money to build up their own power base and bureaucracy.” – ObozoMustGo

          • George D

            Medicare works just fine. Social Security works fine. In fact, your neo con buddies are drooling at the prospect of taking those funds for their own projects or using those funds to allow further tax breaks and special funding for their investor buddies.

          • George D

            Also….here is my rule of thumb for you: Careful where you put that thumb, lest you get stinky on it!

          • ObozoMustGo

            You wrote: “Medicare works just fine. Social Security works fine.”





            Only a moron says such a thing. Both programs, ACCORDING TOO THE PROGRAM TRUSTEES, are going insolvent. Both are Ponzi schemes that can never work long term.

            Doesn’t take a leftist freak but a few back and forth comments to jump into the old cliche book. I’ll give you credit, though. You didn’t quite jump in right off the bat like most of the leftist freak morons do.

            Have a nice day! Consider yourself shunned!

            “He who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool — shun him.” – Old Middle Eastern Proverb

          • George D

            Gosh…I am hurt to be shunned by a reactionary nut case. Just try and destroy medicare and your Tea Party Clowns will doom the Republican party to the ash heap of history. As for middle east proverbs, I would expect an American Taliban TEA POTTY clown to find something from the Koran! What is next? Who ever is paying you to spew out this garbage is getting the work of a really slow elementary school kid.

          • George D

            Here is an American Proverb for you: Brays like a jackass! Kicks up dirt like a jackass! Smells like a jackass! Must be a jackass!

          • George D

            Further, most doctors in this state welcome Medicare and have expanded using Physician’s Assistants and Nurse Practitioners and set up urgent care facilities in what resembles a patch of mushrooms after a rain. Sorry the Paul family has to resort to politics to make money…..we have a surplus of doctors here….with many going overseas for less pay just to have work.

          • ObozoMustGo

            George… what state are you in? Certainly it has to be a state of denial. Your claim about more doctors going into Medicare is contradicted by the facts. More and more docs are dropping Medicare patients, or are no longer adding new ones. This is a widely known fact. Everyone knows it. Your claims about having too many doctors and them having to go overseas is also horsesheet. No one reading here believes such nonsense, even the most committed leftist freaks.

            Have a nice day!

            “The great danger to the consumer is the monopoly — whether private or governmental. His most effective protection is free
            competition at home and free trade throughout the world. The consumer is protected from being exploited by one seller by the existence of another seller from whom he can buy and who is eager to sell to him. Alternative sources of supply protect the consumer far more effectively than all the Ralph Naders of the world.” – Milton Friedman

    • Michael Kollmorgen

      Actually, the insurance companies are caught within 3 or more problems.

      The first is the greedy healthcare system itself. When it cost $150 or more to see a specialist for a stinking 15 minutes, that is disgusting to say the least.

      The other major problem is greedy lawyers and their clients who’ll sue at the drop of a hat.

      Another problem is doctors, hospitals, clinics, supply companies who double-bill.

      As well, drugs cost 10 times here what it would cost in Canada.

      Of course, the insurance companies themselves aren’t any better.

      All of these people are crooks and all sleep in the same bed, more or less.

      Obamacare will help people afford medical care. However, it don’t do anything about curbing all this profiteering. In the end, the taxpayer will still pay the bill, even if everyone of these entities increase their bills 10 times.

      The only way, ACA can work is IF it controls cost, which it won’t do.

      • ObozoMustGo

        Mike… you are delusional if you think that most everyone involved in healthcare is a “greedy profiteer”. Do you think you and the DemonRATS are the only one that cares about helping other people? Do you think bureaucrats and politicians are NOT greedy profiteers? Why are they so noble and private industry is not? Do you understand how stupid your statments are?

        The only thing you said that is correct is that Obozodon’tcare can control costs. Name one place where the US government has ever controlled cots…. you can’t. Government is inherently inefficient because there is no incentive to control costs. Any attempts ALWAYS result in shortages, rationing, reduced quality, and increased costs. There is zero incentive for efficient resource allocation.

        Have a nice day!

        “If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in five years there’d be a shortage of sand.” — Milton Friedman

        • Michael Kollmorgen

          If you personally knew the doctors I know, you’d also think they were unbelievably greedy.

          Drug companies are just as bad when I can send for scripts from Canada that cost a fifth of what the same drug would cost at a local Wallgreen. Not to mention supplies where I could buy the same product from a pet store for a fifth of the cost.

          That is the biggest problem with healthcare, there is NO cost controls. Sure, why should the government even want to control costs? After all, everyone’s got their hands in the profiteering game, all the way up the ladder.

          This is NOT a liberal or conservative problem. The problem is in the nature of Capitalism. It automatically institutes greed into the system.

          • ObozoMustGo

            More of the same old bullsheet, Mike. The bottom line is that anyone who does not understand that freedom and capitalism go hand in hand, is going to make such silly statements like “captialism automatically institutes greed into the system”. Answer the following questions:

            – Is rational self interest greed?

            – What is greed?

            – Are politicians and bureacrats somehow NOT greedy?

            – Is wanting to keep the fruits of my labor greedy?

            – Is it greedy of you to demand access to my earnings for your benefits?

            What you are saying, Mike, is nonsense. I think you even know that. The very denial of human nature, and the desire to change that nature, is the essence of your false ideological beliefs. It’s folly. This is the reason that socialism NEVER works or ever will.

            Have a nice day!

            “Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
            the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy,
            its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery..”
            — Winston Churchill

          • Michael Kollmorgen

            You asked what greed was. Here it is.

            Greed is the inordinate desire to possess wealth, goods, or objects of abstract value with the intention to keep it for one’s self, far beyond the dictates of basic survival and comfort.

            I never excluded politicians or bureaucrats from the list.

            My answers to all your other questions – read the definition of greed.

            The basic problem is what is meant by “far beyond”.

            My view is that if I am comfortable, have food on the table, have a car to drive, have a basic home to live in and go where want, do what I want and no bills, that is really enough for me.

            All I want is the basic necessities of life and maybe a little more. I don’t want to take anything from anyone who is the same or little bit better off than I am.

            I never was nor will I ever be a greedy man. That is not how I conduct my life.

            And, by the way, Capitalism as we know it isn’t working either. Most of the world’s countries that adopted our economic model(s) after WW2 are in deep shit, the same or worse than we are.

            The only solution I can see for us and the rest of the world is to practice strict socialism and to take the value of money totally out of the equation.

            When someone said Money Is The Root of All Evil, they weren’t bullshitting in the least.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Mike… who are you to determine what is and what is not “enough” for other people? Who made you and your ilk the masterminds of the universe? Should Steve Jobs or Bill Gates not be rewarded for their efforts that result in the employ of tens of millions of people globally? And how many people would be willing to innovate and create wealth that creates employment that pays mortgages and landscapers and buys hamburgers at places that employ new workers entering the workforce, if there is no economic incentive for them to do so? Or all the myriad infinite ways people earn a living and buy food and clothes and pay for schools and vacations and whatever the hell else they desire? Why take risks if there is no reward? And how do you figure that you’re the arbiter of what is and what is not just reward?

            You see, your view of what is “enough” to survive is laughable. Do you realize that 100 years ago, having what you have today would make you ultra rich? No one had air conditioning, flat screen HD TV’s, washer and dryers, cars let alone multiple cars, cell phones, computers, closets full of clothes, microwaves, freezers and refridgerators, medicines that prolonged life, cures for cancer or heart disease, or even polio for that matter, flew on airplanes, etc. etc. Where do you think these things that you take for granted and make you rich come from? Magic fairy dust? In your socialist system, NONE of this would exist and you’d not only be poorer, but you’d likely be dead already (if you’re retired now).

            Where have they tried socialism? Well, the grand experiment was the Soviet Union. They had bread lines and massive shortages of all necessities of life. They were famous for their shortages and bread lines. Everything was owned by the state. Everything they made was crap. People were all miserable. Except of course the ruling political class that lived like kings. Look at Cuba. Look at Venezuela. Look at North Korea. They are all socialist states and they are all in turmoil. Their people starve and shortages are the norm, not the exception. And, oh by the way, those socialist tyrants of the 20th century happen to be responsible for the murder of well over 100 million humans in their attempt to coerce formerly free people into their collective utopias. You see, coercion is a necessity of socialism.

            You claim that the countries that followed America into capitalism following WW2 are in deep sheet because of capitalism is patently false. My hunch is that you’re talking about Europe. The one’s that are in deep sheet are the ones that have too much debt that arises from too much socialism. In fact, we don’t even have to leave a single sample country, Germany, to know the difference between capitalism and socialism. East Germany was a disaster while West Germany prospered immensely. The same example of the failed ideology of socialism can be found in the comparison of North Korea and South Korea. Which of those 2 would you rather live under, Mike? Come on, answer me honestly.

            You see, you’re really no different than a lot of people that think like you. There’s an underlying jealousy and envy that is the hallmark of your desires. These ideas are nothing new. They’ve been discussed since Plato first dreamed up his ‘Republic”. In Hobbs “Leviathan, More’s “Utopia” and of course Karl Marx’s “Communist Manifesto” and countless other writings of rambling philosophers thinking of ways to alter human nature and perfect man as they see fit. It has never worked and never will. It is a fantasy. You do see that, don’t you Mike? The world around you is the very evidence of the abundance that comes from freedom and free market economics which contradicts your emotional attachment to that fantasy.

            Have a nice day!

            “The lack of money is the root of all evil.” ― Mark Twain

          • George D

            We paid for the Greatest Generation…..We served out nation in its wars….What does a Taligagger know about producing products? And your cheap washer…TV….wonderful toys all….where are they made and do the folks there have them. How long before the COMMUNIST CHINA folks need to have more technology and higher education level than we have. The monopoly of the world’s resources we had is slipping and new technologies you talk about were developed from Federal Projects….in fact many of the patents never should have been given to individuals without paying the Fed for their investments. As for bread lines, we had our share before the Second World War, mainly because so few had all of the nation’s wealth and so many monopolies prevented new business. Look it up in other than the Friedman Plutocracy Writings. Here is another one for you, “a fool and his money are soon parted”….and that was by an American Con Man like yourself.

          • ObozoMustGo

            George, you’re a delusional moron. What happened, you forget your dimensia medications today? Nothing is developed by government. NOTHING. Some things may be developed initially for defense purposes, but that’s done by the private sector. In fact, it took more than 25 years for DARPANET, created for defense purposes, to be taken over by private enterprise which in just a few short years sparked the internet revolution.

            Thank you for your service to America (sincerely) but that does not entitle you to a living paid for on the backs of others simply because you were duped by the lies of a Ponzi scheme manager called the Feds. You’re no more entitled to live off the labor of others than they are entitled to live off of yours.

            Now go take your meds, George.

            Have a nice day!

            “Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.” — Frederic Bastiat, French economist (1801-1850)

          • Michael Kollmorgen

            Actually, anyone who is a battle-hardened Vet should be fully supported by our government the minute they get out of the service as far as I’m concerned.

            They shouldn’t even need to get a job. They served our screwed up country, sometimes even dieing for the privilege.

            Make our country support them completely!

          • ObozoMustGo

            If they are permanently wounded, I agree. Other than that, any old vets I know, father and father in law included, are too damned proud to be on the dole. Nothing makes them more disgusted than to see what is going on in this country lately. And they sure as hell will tell you that they didn’t go fight so that others that can be on the dole, either.

            Have a nice day, Mike!

            As William Voegeli put it in Never Enough: America’s Limitless Welfare State, “Liberals don’t want the government to grow indefinitely. They just want it to be bigger than it is right now. The
            corollary of this stance is liberals’ refusal even to entertain questions on the dimensions of a welfare state that is exactly the right size.”

          • Michael Kollmorgen

            Don’t matter to me whether they are perm wounded or not. Yes, they may be too proud to take it. But, I’d offer it never the less, no matter what condition they are in.

          • Michael Kollmorgen

            From what I remember, I think the average city-dwelling “communist” Chinese is better educated than the average city-dwelling American.

          • George D

            Yet Michael we have the neocompoops posting garbage here about the supremacy of a system where they defund education and demean teachers, public servants, and dedicated political leaders. Having taught for decades in our public schools I can say it is often a thankless job, where some self appointed economic and societal expert rants at the hard work it is, which shows they have not lifted a finger to help our society. Even in industry we have these types who try to take credit for the work of others for their self aggrandizement. I think we call them blow hards!

          • Michael Kollmorgen

            Well, I can tell you from personal experience as a kid growing up in middle class america, where if I knew then what I know now, there would have been quite a few dead bodies around including more than a few teachers 50 years ago. I can very easily go to into mass depression over what I went through if I think about it for long. I still suffer nightmares over it on occasion. And, I’m 64 now.

            I had it HELL in school from about 3rd grade and up.

            In many ways, the teaching profession is very much like what the police term The Thin Blue Line – no one ever points a finger at a bad one(s).

            On one hand, I feel teachers aren’t paid enough and don’t get the public recognition they sorely deserve IF they do their jobs.

            Parents are mostly the blame. They’ll sue a school system at the drop of a hat for any little reason they can come up with, of course with the cooperating help from your local TV Lawyer.

            In a nutshell, no matter how well a teacher does do their job, they are in a no-win situation. You wouldn’t catch me dead teaching a group of snot nosed kids and have to deal with their rotten parents on a daily basis.

            On the other hand, teachers haven’t got much to brag about. Some are way overpaid, lazy, their union will protect a bad teacher till hell freezes over. The public knows this. But, since Johnny is mandated to get an education, the public itself is screwed as well. And, the public itself screws itself every time a new tax levy is passed for school systems.

            I could go on about the schools, but I’d rather not. Don’t get me wrong, I respect the teaching profession, especially college level. But, from K to 12, believe me, there needs to be lots of improvement, clean the garbage out before I have much respect for them.

            And, I have less respect for parents.

          • Michael Kollmorgen


            The Soviet Union was not socialist. They were COMMUNIST.

            BIG DIFFERENCE………………….

            I am not the representative of thinking that to have enough and little more is fair game. But, too much, well, is too much. Matter of fact, I’m but a very small voice compared to a very large growing population that think exactly the way I do.

            Believe it or not, 300 year ago wages compared to today’s wages (when you weren’t under servitude or slavery), they had it made.

            When was the last time you checked your grocery bill. I remember 50 years ago going into a grocery store, carrying out 6 bags of groceries, all for $30 or so and half was meat.

            Try that today, it’ll cost you around $300+. Our wages have never kept up with the increasing cost of products and services.

          • ObozoMustGo

            There’s not much difference between socialism and communism, Mike. You’re dead wrong. In both scenarios, the state owns and controls the factors of production: land, labor, capital, and entrepreneuship. The only difference is the degree of control. Lenin is famous for, among other things, saying “The goal of socialism IS communism.” I think I’ll believe him.

            You are correct. Wages have stagnated since Nixon took us off the gold standard. What’s odd is that productivity has risen at a nearly 45 degree slope since then, but wages have remained basically flat when adjusted for inflation and put into constant dollars. See the chart I have attached. The reason for this is that politicians from BOTH parties have been living on a debt binge for 40+ years and the Fed Reserve’s unrestrained printing presses have devalued your money by nearly 90% since then. We have been lied to. We’ve been had. We’ve been led to believe that we can live on borrowed money and social programs where other people pay for our needs. We have been robbed of what were always traditional American values of hard work, self reliance, and thrift. And here we are. On the precipice of collaps that will be precipitated by a world that no longer trust the US Bond or the US Dollar. On that gloomy day, you had better be prepared because it wil devolve quickly into societal collapse.

            Have a nice day!

            “America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within.” – Joseph Stalin

          • Michael Kollmorgen

            We should have never been taken off the Gold Standard.

            This was probably the worst economic mistake this screwed up country ever made along with NAFTA, which I blame Bush and Clinton both.

          • George D

            Mike….Do not expect much from the TALABAGGER…He cannot be bothered with reality. Sniffing the shorts of Bachman and Palin his left him in a sad state of Neocondia! Seems like no one except a few nut jobs in the deepest and most remote areas of the south believe his old bag of lies and deception. Those of us who actually worked all of our lives and contributed to society something that improved the lives of our neighbors will never accept his version or reality.

          • ObozoMustGo

            So you’re a mendicant, eh George? Now sucking off the teet end of the Ponzi schemes you’ve been duped by. Too bad you just an old fool.

            How do you get through the day without wandering out into traffic? Wipe that drool from your chin, as well.

            Have a nice day, moron and remain oblivious!

            “The difference between being stupid and being a fool: A stupid person at least has an idea about their own inadequacies. The fool is oblivious to them, and is more inclined to believe their own fantasies and lies as truth.” – ObozoMustGo

        • George D

          And Milton and his pals screwed South American Peoples so badly that today they are turning to Communism. Seems like privatizing all natural resources and even water does not set right with them. Now bray on that one…TEA BAGGER

          • ObozoMustGo

            You’re living in a fantasy, you leftist freak.

  • infadelicious

    Obama lied……..and my health care insurance policy died……..;-(