Smart. Sharp. Funny. Fearless.
Tuesday, March 26, 2019

Published with permission from Media Matters for America.

The Trump campaign released a lie-filled statement that sought to put to rest criticism of Donald Trump for building his political image on racist, conspiratorial claims that President Obama was not born in the United States. The media has a responsibility to debunk Trump’s lies and not let him get away with whitewashing his role in promoting a campaign to delegitimize the first black president.

Trump’s birtherism wasn’t just a fleeting comment; it helped lay the groundwork for his current presidential run. His sustained campaign in the spring of 2011 questioning the president’s birthplace endeared him to both fringe conservative media outlets that are now supporting his presidential bid and to Fox News, which devoted dozens of segments to helping him push the conspiracy.

Last night’s statement from the campaign claimed that Trump “was finally able to bring this ugly incident to its conclusion” in 2011 by “compelling President Obama to release his birth certificate.” The statement further asserted, “Having successfully obtained President Obama’s birth certificate when others could not, Mr. Trump believes that President Obama was born in the United States.” He also blamed “Hillary Clinton’s campaign” for first “rais[ing] this issue.”

None of this is true, but some reporters are already letting Trump off the hook.

The only way Trump will be able to put his shameful birtherism ‘to bed’ is if the media fails to hold him accountable in the coming days. Here’s why.

President Obama released his birth certificate in 2008, years before Trump started talking about it.

The campaign statement suggests Trump is the hero of the birth certificate story because he “was finally able to bring this ugly incident to its conclusion” in 2011 by “compelling President Obama to release his birth certificate.” In fact, Obama’s campaign released his certificate of live birth in June 2008. It was published by FactCheck.org and other media outlets and verified as authentic. The next year, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, certified that she had personally seen Obama’s birth certificate in the original records maintained by the Hawaii government.

In other words, at the time Trump raised the birther issue in 2011, the president’s place of birth was questionedonly by conspiracy theorists. It was Trump who brought that racist conspiracy out of the shadows, leading to President Obama releasing his long-form birth certificate in 2011.

When President Obama released his long-form, Trump suggested it was fake.

The Trump campaign statement suggests that the Republican nominee’s skepticism about Obama’s birthplace ended when he released his long-form birth certificate in 2011. But immediately after the release of that document, Trump told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer that “a lot of people don’t agree with that birth certificate” because they “do not think it was an authentic certificate.” He added, “You won’t report it, Wolf, but many people do not think it was authentic.”

Trump told Jerome Corsi, a leader of the birther movement and the author of Where’s the Birth Certificate, that the birth certificate was forged.

According to birther site WND, “During their conversation, Trump told Corsi his own computer expert told him at the release that it was a computer-generated document.”

Trump spent the next several years promoting birth certificate conspiracies on Twitter.

Trump repeatedly used his Twitter account in the years following the release of Obama’s long-form birth certificate to cast doubt upon its authenticity. In 2012, Trump claimed that “An ‘extremely credible source’ has called my office and told me that @BarackObama’s birth certificate is a fraud.” In 2013, he wrote, “How amazing, the State Health Director who verified copies of Obama’s ‘birth certificate’ died in plane crash today. All others lived.” In 2014, he retweeted someone who wrote that “Obama also fabricated his own birth certificate after being pressured to produce one” by Trump. There are many, many more examples.

Via The Daily Beast’s Gideon Resnick:

Trump also continued to claim the birth certificate was fake in interviews.

For years, Trump would respond to interviewers who asked about his birtherism by claiming there were still legitimate questions about the document. In October 2012, he told Fox News’ Greta Van Susteren that he “wasn’t satisfied” with the long-form birth certificate, adding “I never said I was satisfied.” He also suggested that contemporaneous birth announcements that appeared in Hawaii newspapers had been faked.

In 2013, Trump told ABC’s Jon Karl, “I have no idea” if the president was born in the United States. He added, “Was it a birth certificate? You tell me. Some people say that was not his birth certificate. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn’t. I’m saying I don’t know. Nobody knows. And you don’t know either, Jonathan.”

In 2014, Trump questioned the birth certificate’s authenticity in an interview with Irish TV, as BuzzFeed reported:

In one 2014 exchange with Irish TV, for instance, he defended his birtherism at length.

“You questioned his citizenship during his campaign, and you said afterwards if he produced that long-form birth certificate, you’d produce your tax returns. But you didn’t do it, did you?” asked Ireland TV3’s Colette Fitzpatrick in May 2014.

“Well, I don’t know — did he do it?” Trump said. “If I decide to run for office I’ll produce my tax returns. Absolutely. I would love to do that. I did produce a financial statement even though I wasn’t even running. I did produce a financial statement and it was shocking to some because it was so much higher than people thought possible.”

[…]

“But he is a citizen and he produced that long form birth certificate,” host Fitzpatrick said.

“Well, a lot of people don’t agree with you and a lot of people feel it wasn’t a proper certificate,” Trump said.

Earlier this year, Trump claimed he was planning to write a book about his theory of Obama’s citizenship.

Trump was casting doubt on the president’s birth certificate as recently as January.

Asked about whether Obama is a natural-born citizen during a January 6 interview with CNN’s Blitzer, Trump responded, “Who knows? Who cares right now? We’re talking about something else, OK?” He continued: “I mean, I have my own theory on Obama. Someday I’ll write a book. I’ll do another book. It’ll do very successfully.”

Trump’s campaign surrogates have defended his birtherism.

Before the Trump campaign released its September 15 statement, his campaign surrogates have defended him in a variety of ways. They have claimed that the issue is “completely irrelevant” so Trump “has said that he does not talk about that anymore”; doubled-down on birther claims; said that there was “nothing wrong” with his birther claims; and refused to say if Trump should apologize for his statements.

Trump is lying, Clinton’s campaign didn’t raise the birther issue.

According to the statement, “Hillary Clinton’s campaign first raised this issue to smear then-candidate Barack Obama” during her 2008 campaign for president. As FactCheck.org, Politifact.com, and The Washington Post, among others, have documented, this is false. Trump began pushing this lie last year in order to try to shed responsibility for his actions.

  • Share this on Google+0
  • Share this on Linkedin0
  • Share this on Reddit0
  • Print this page
  • 499

95 responses to “Seven Reasons The Media Shouldn’t Let Trump Move On From Birtherism”

  1. cuppa says:

    Very sad Trump lied about Obama’s birthplace. He knows and his followers know Obama was born in Kenya. It is now clear Bush, Obama and Clinton will escape justice for their crimes.

    • I of John says:

      cup a stupid huh

      • cuppa says:

        Remember Obama’s family in Kenya as well as Obama said he was born there? Remember the local hospital was visited and files removed? The British even have the original birth certificate!
        http://www.apfn.org/apfn/obamas-birth-certificate.htm

        • Dan S says:

          What the hell are you taking in that cup of yours ? You do know you sound very unstable. Have you considered a run for public office ? ????

          • cuppa says:

            Sorry I don’t buy your Fraudian psychology anymore and by the way more and more Americans want you deported to Israel.

          • Dan S says:

            I’m sure certain people perhaps of the Jewish faithful have somewhere nice & hot to spend all of eternity. Might need 1 of these ????

          • cuppa says:

            Jesus said they come from hell. That’s why no Jew fears hell or expects heaven. They sodomize and burn the Goyim forever there. I’m heading upwards.

          • chino49p says:

            Jesus was a JEW, you idiot. From your own comment it appears you are heading straight to hell. You better repent and BELIEVE on the real Lord Jesus Christ, soon.

          • cuppa says:

            Jews was NOT a pharisaic, Babylonian, Talmudic Jew. He called the modern bankster Jews the sons of Satan and the Masters of Lies as many of the great men of history and history have confirmed.

          • chino49p says:

            He was a full blooded Jew, except for the GOD part. Jesus was a son of David, a son of Abraham, according to the flesh, Jesus was a full blooded Jew. You cannot parse that away. The fact that some Jews believed on him and some didn’t has nothing to do with it.

          • cuppa says:

            Jesus whipped these modern pharisaic, moneylending, Babylonian, Talmudic Jews out of the temple and every country needs to kick these purveyors of immoral filth and usury out. Jesus was a from Galilee, a Jew of Moses not Baal.

          • chino49p says:

            You are a very anti-semitic idiot. A Jew is a descendant of Abram (and wife Sarah) who God later renamed Abraham. Abraham is the father of the Hebrew people (Jews), which includes the obedient Jews and the disobedient Jews. It includes Moses, David and Jesus along with an innumerable number of other Jews. As far as the Pharisees were concerned, one thing they could do was to actually trace their heritage back to Abraham. You couldn’t be a Pharisee without it.

          • charleo1 says:

            Whoever you are I would remind you, that not all that long ago there were 60 million people across the Planet that died because of low life idiots, and haters just like you. This Country alone lost nearly one half million of our brave soldiers on battlefields across Europe, and greater Asia, putting a stop to such evil as you’re spouting, and putting scum buckets like you’re evidently following back under their rocks where they belong. So this is America and you can believe what you want, say what you want. Hurrah! But I thought you ought you to know, America hasn’t forgotten for one second who you are, and what you represent. And she hasn’t changed her mind one iota about any of it…

          • cuppa says:

            Jews have killed tens of billions throughout history with their wars which they start by buying kings and politicians or getting them into their debt and funding both sides. The last two world wars for example and look at the wars for Israel in the middle east which have lost so many lives of innocents. Look how the Jews in the state department destroyed Libya, Syria and Ukraine.

          • charleo1 says:

            Perhaps you didn’t read my rebuttal. I know who your are, and what you mistakenly believe. And believe it, or don’t, your mind has been poisoned. And is continually being more poisoned by the hate filled lies that are very much the same lies as is being fed to angry jihadist, and terrorists. And whether or not you, or they realize it, in the end, it will not matter. Both are false ideologies who’s bottom lines will bring their adherents nothing but personal destruction, and a wasted life they could have done so many positive things with, they have made their decision to foolishly squander away on hate. Now we have a Constitution, so you, and your ilk are prohibited by that document from carrying out your agenda of evilly, and your acts of genocide, cruelty, and terror in my Country. And as you or your leaders are probably aware, they are a pariah organization in all civilized, long remembering, and liberty loving Nations everywhere.

          • cuppa says:

            I don’t buy The Big Jew Lies anymore. Like millions of Americans I know that that there is a dangerous parasite in our midst destroying our children with immorality, spreading degeneracy and Judaeo-feminism. stealing our wealth and ever, ever warmongering for their own interests.

          • charleo1 says:

            It’s always gotta be something with you, does it not? Did you ever consider the problem lies in your screwed up noodle? The excuses others feed you that you buy into to explain your own short falls? Rather than just facing some personal truths? Such as, perhaps I didn’t prepare myself to do as well in life as I’d always thought I would. Thoughts like, instead of looking for excuses, and blaming others, I need to take more responsibility for myself. Get a better education, or go to a good trade school to improve my lot in life.
            Take it from a an older guy who’s maybe been around a little bit more. If you keep going down the path you’re on, I can guarantee you, you’ll look back on what will be a very short life, and be extremely sorry you didn’t take my advise.

          • cuppa says:

            The Jews have killed billions of people since the middle ages in their bankster wars. They buy or indebt kings and politicians and then urge them to war backing both sides to make profit and to weaken any Goyim opposition to them. The Jews manipulated the last two world wars into being. The Jews in Wall Street funded the Jewish Bolshevik revolution in Russia which by it’s end had killed 100 million white Christians in the Soviet sphere. The Jews in the state department like Victoria Neuland were behind the mass murder of Libya and Syria. Nuland spent 5 billion of white US taxpayers money on bringing down the democratically elected government in the Ukraine. Meanwhile every rabbi and Jewish politician in Europe supports and aids the current Islamic invasion as the Jews did the last time when they went on to become the bankers for the Muslims. Currently the Jews worldwide are shilling for a world war with Russia. One reason they hate Trump so much is he won’t let them have it.

          • Dan S says:

            Wow ???? this cuppa is one sick individual. This election has already brought the Nazis out in the open. Very scary people that support Trump. Calling them deplorables is an understatement ????

        • yabbed says:

          You are clearly one of the Deplorables.

    • charleo1 says:

      Very sad? Oh, you’re just figuring out Trump is a congenital liar, after listening to this world class fraud and his pure horse manure on the Birther issue for more than 7 years? Now he’s spoiled your happiness by dropping your favorite issue? Not to worry. We aren’t going to let Mr. Trump just quit dancing with the gal that brought him to the ball. The very lie he build his campaign around. Are you kidding? Mr. Trump may think he’s done with Birtherism. But Birtherism, believe me. trust me on this, “cuppa,” is not done with Mr. Trump.

      • Joan says:

        Trump was between a rock and a hard place. As “Papa Bear”, Bill ( O’lying) O’Reily told him birtherism was hurting his black, independents, women, and young voters outreach efforts. However, it was this demonstrative racism that appealed to his base and to the alt right. What’s a bigoted white guy gonna do? Well Trump does what he always does he lies and projects against a back drop of shameless self promoting and crass materialism. This whole announcement was so that he would get a infomercial for his new hotel aired on all the networks for free. The fact that he was able to get some digs in at Hillary, just gravy.

        • charleo1 says:

          Totally agree. The fact he seems to believe he can walk back 7 years of blatant racist lies, with a short 30 second sound bite. Or by falsely accusing Clinton of starting the rumor. Is an insult to even the small amount of intelligence his insane pap usually gives the average voter. To those already in love with the cad, they’ll do what people blindly in love do. Believe lies, make excuses, defend his actions as normal, make complete fools of themselves. But I have always thought this was the one issue that made him, and will be the issue that will bring him down.

          • Daniel Jones says:

            If the media plays along, he *will* get away with it. The sad truth is that the mass media is a ratings whore, and a diseased one at that.

          • charleo1 says:

            I don’t/can’t disagree with that. But the reality is, the media in a free press environ is going to be what it’s going to be. Then, it must be that we the media consumers must be smarter, be aware of the inherent bias for ratings, and adjust our ways of thinking, and the conclusions we infer, with that in mind.

    • Oddworld says:

      You left one part out of your comment. You were right to call Trump’s supporters his followers because that’s all they are. Followers being led to the slaughter by a madman as is the case with any cult.

  2. Godzilla says:

    Clinton’s short-term 2008 campaign manager, Patti Solis Doyle,
    admitted that a campaign staffer circulated what became known as the
    “Birther” theory that Obama wasn’t born in the USA and therefore was
    ineligible to be elected president.
    On Twitter, Doyle said it was a “rogue staffer” who sent out an
    e-mail and “was fired pretty damn quick.” Later on CNN, Doyle told Wolf
    Blitzer.

    Whoops!

    • chino49p says:

      No whoops there, dummy. It was an unpaid staffer and he was immediately let go. Clinton nor her campaign ever put forth that theory. It was repubs who found out about it and RAN with it, not Clinton or her campaign or the democrats. Clinton NEVER started it, that is just ANOTHER drump LIE!

  3. Grannysmovin says:

    These are the questions that the Media needs to ask or the moderators: 1. Why did you not believe Obama was born in the U.S.? 2. What did your investigators find out that you sent to Hawaii? 3. Why did you never release their findings? 4. Why did you continue the Birther Conspiracy after Obama released his long form? 5. Donald Trump asked the Obama administration via a letter dated 02/07/11 to intervene on his behalf with the Chinese justice system. His complaint went to the heart of Trump’s business empire. A small-time Chinese coffee shop business had registered the word “Trump.” Administration response reported: “With respect to your legal proceedings in Macau, legal and policy constraints limit our ability to take action regarding matters before foreign courts,” The department would raise Trump’s issue with Chinese authorities, the letter said. But it also suggested another avenue for Trump to resolve his dispute: the International Trade Administration, which helps U.S. companies deal with intellectual property issues in China and elsewhere. Locke said his employees would be glad to speak with Trump further on the matter. A spokeswoman for the Commerce Department said she could find no further communications from Trump on the matter. Read the entire letter below http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-trade-dispute-china-obama_us_57d869a7e4b0fbd4b7bc2d1a?section=politics

    In 2011 Trump began his conspiracy birther, What a Coinkydink

    On March 3rd 2011 News Max reported: “Donald Trump is calling on President Barack Obama to produce his birth certificate and end speculation he was born outside the United States.”
    “I want him to show his birth certificate. I want him to show his birth certificate,” Trump said on ABC’s “The View.” “There’s something on that birth certificate that he doesn’t like.”
    http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/trump-obama-birth-certficicate/2011/03/23/id/390547/#ixzz4KTe1Q76Y

    • Irishgrammy says:

      Not only the President’s birth certificate, Trump demanded to see Pres. Obama’s college transcripts and application because he couldn’t or wouldn’t believe he got into Columbia or Harvard based on Obama’s own excellence and hard work, let alone that he graduated Magna Cum Laude or was president of the Harvard Law Review…….ALL OF IT WAS TO and CONTINUES to be, to humiliate our first black president any way Trump can and that was and still is clear. And BTW, who the Hell is Donald J. Trump to demand anything from this President, let alone ANYONE!!! Trump is a racist/bigot ignorant a**hole pure and simple and anyone who supports him and/or votes for him knows it and accepts/supports his avowed racism/bigotry pure and simple! There are obvious reasons White Supremacists, KKKer’s, Nazi’s and far right evangelical creeps support his candidacy and will accept his weak “disavow” statements, because they know politically he “has to” make these pathetically weak statements, but they know a creature like themselves when they hear and see one and they know the “political” game Trump must play………unfortunately this is not a joke and this country IS paying a horrible price for Trump’s idiocy and repulsive campaign. I can only hope those “politicians” that have hooked their political futures with Trump will be tarred and feather and stigmatized in the future for the backing of the most divisive, repugnant and dishonest, serial liar ever to have darkened our political process………

  4. yabbed says:

    Trump’s long term agenda to discredit the first African American elected to the US Presidency is part and parcel of Trump’s racism and his affiliation with white supremacist beliefs. He is one of them and he has made that very clear.

    • Carollgmiller2 says:

      Google is paying 97$ per hour! Work for few hours and have longer with friends & family! !mj437d:
      On tuesday I got a great new Land Rover Range Rover from having earned $8752 this last four weeks.. Its the most-financialy rewarding I’ve had.. It sounds unbelievable but you wont forgive yourself if you don’t check it
      !mj437d:
      ➽➽
      ➽➽;➽➽ http://GoogleFinancialJobsCash437NetworkMasterGetPay$97Hour ★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★✫★★::::::!mj437d:….,…..

  5. TZToronto says:

    Why is Trump always saying that some people are saying this or many people are saying that? Why does he never mention who these “people” are? Could it be that the people he talks about are just the voices he’s hearing in his own head?

    • Karen says:

      Or the kind of people whose word we couldn’t trust anyway?

    • A. D. Reed says:

      Remember a few weeks ago when his lawyer challenged a reporter on TV who said that all the polls showed Trump losing, the lawyer said “Says who? Says who?”

      That’s what every reporter should demand whenever Dump says “I’ve heard” or “A lot of people say” or “People are saying”

      And when he refuses to answer, keep asking, over and over. “Who says that?” “You’re making a claim; back it up, please.” “Provide specifics.” “What individuals are saying that?”

      • Oddworld says:

        That’s a human failing. “I’ve heard” or “A lot of people say” or “People are saying” can often be no more than 2-3 people! Unfortunately I’ve done it too but there again I’m not running for the most important job in the world.

      • FT66 says:

        Trump is using kids tactic. Most of kids use this tactic in order to get what they want or avoiding what they don’t want, by generalising everything.

    • dbtheonly says:

      It’s a typical ploy of Fox “News” used to interject the preferred idea without needing attribution or verification.

    • Daniel Jones says:

      They’re the people he’s set up to say things after he starts the ball rolling.

    • dpaano says:

      Whenever he starts a sentence like that, you can guess that he’s going to tell another lie!!!

  6. Now that Trump has insisted on being in the spotlight by uttering the most ungodly falsehoods, preposterous assertions, and just plain lies, it is incumbent on society to shine a withering spotlight on this pathetic creature and his coterie until his skin tone takes on an entirely different hue.

  7. AF 70-74 says:

    Why do we keep letting him off the hook easily?
    He didn’t admit “he was wrong” about insinuating that President Obama was hiding something “from the people” by not showing his birth certificate.
    There was no admittance to this guilt!
    He got away with “okay, Obama is a citizen.” . . . and everybody packed up their bags and went home. Tired of this passive “oh that’s how the Donsld is.”
    All of you guys let him “get into your heads” a long time ago . . . and he got you. Mostly you media guys that keep giving him a mike!
    is it because of ratings, corporate gains, celebrity news, or it weakness?

    • Oddworld says:

      It is because of ratings. NPR did a piece on all the free publicity Trump has garnered through the media. They’ve concluded that a campaign without controversy is bad for business. They make me sick!

      • AF 70-74 says:

        You right on! It makes me sick too. Sometimes I just rather not watch the news and its during those times I feel relaxed. I get so worked up just to see the news covering something about the con man and they seem to always let him and his surrogates keep getting their say in, even when it’s “off topic.” Th media seem to always explain for him “what he meant.” Even some the the good media guys do it too. Tired.

        • Irishgrammy says:

          I have a solution…….when the news guy or gal says, “we’ll be cutting away to Trumps rally/speech/event” I say “OH NO WE ARE NOT!!!!!”, and click back to watching HGTV or better yet click on the off button……I will not listen to any more of Trumps hate speech and horrible rallies with the masses of like kind hating idiots who hang onto Trump’s every disgusting utterances of hateful rhetoric and incessant lies! These wretched people are an embarrassment as an American to watch exposing such dire ignorance on a massive scale! I detest them and unfortunately know many personally and have watched them turn into proud, loud open bigots of hate and they feel Trump has given them “permission” to express their hate filled ideas under the ridiculous guise of not being politically correct. SO they put voice to their “repressed racism” as they slither out from their rocks to shout their anger and resentments, they should have kept their racism and bigotry REPRESSED, because it is as wrong and evil as it can be! It used to be the constant refrain when the Tea Party took over in 2010, that “We want are country back”……and we all knew what that meant, the election of our first black president sent these cretins into apoplectic shock. I am waiting for the day when these bigots and racists slither back under their rocks and they disappear forever!

          • charleo1 says:

            I do anyway grammy. Hearing Trump make the same inane pronouncements, and garbage in/garbage out slogans over, and over, again, bores me to tears.

    • neeceoooo says:

      He owes the President of the US an apology…

  8. Oddworld says:

    The lie is bad enough but what’s worse than the lie itself was the act of forcing Obama to provide evidence proving he was born in the U.S. to begin with. And I have serious doubts as to whether this will even quell the birther movement now or in the future. Trump is fully aware he created a monster and is proud of it. Anything for attention you rotten scumbag!

    • Bonissima91910 says:

      Yes, he got attention yesterday, and it was GLORIOUS to see him having to walk away because his crotch was painfully injured bleeding from “decapitation” or “emasculation” for having had to accept, even only in having to say it. “”””Having successfully obtained President Obama’s birth certificate when others could not, Mr. Trump believes that President Obama was born in the United States.” He also blamed “Hillary Clinton’s campaign” for first “rais[ing] this issue.”””””… And folks: to contiue to get attention he now goes to blame Clinton, though openly caught in the LIE, he has to get media and more media, and is now awaiting for Hillary to execute the “coup-de-balls” on the “left-over-something” he might still have left. His narcissism is more potent than any common sense he might have had. He can’t help himself… he is out of any control that might have existed in his sick life.

  9. PrecipitousDrop says:

    It’s all very well that Trump denied his Birther fantasy.
    Now, let’s get him to debunk that whole crazy “Wall” nonsense.

  10. Godzilla says:

    The best thing about video, unlike Liberal’s, it don’t LIE

    https://youtu.be/XwSw9O0agGI

  11. Godzilla says:

    The facts are out there. Liberal Hillary supporters started the birther movement. PERIOD. In other words, Liberals OWN the whole thing. Trump is correct, HER people, working for HER campaign sent the original emails on the subject, not one, but two in IOWA in 2007. It’s all documented. So please, quit whining like pussy’s. I know, I know, ya’ll can’t. It’s not in your nature to make fools of yourselves on a daily basis. Geez, that Liberal public education sure screwed ya’ll up. What a shame, I bet with some intelligence, you might be some nice people.

    • JPHALL says:

      So produce some documentation! Can’t do that can you liar?

      • charleo1 says:

        He did produce a doctored video tape. After all, Trump only said he quit being a Birther yesterday! We can’t expect good propaganda on such short notice.

        • JPHALL says:

          So true! I expect that soon they will splice together something. Subject: Re: Comment on Seven Reasons The Media Shouldn’t Let Trump Move On From Birtherism

    • charleo1 says:

      It doesn’t take any education, or even much common sense, to recognize this Hillary Clinton started the Birther Movement, as the second lie the weasel tells to cover up his first. And it doesn’t take much life experience either to see this as par for the course, when the congenital liar gets caught, and don’t have the guts, integrity, or balls, (they never do,) to stand up like a man and own it. So we know you’re not all that well educated. But convince us you’re not the all that stupid.

    • I Am Helpy says:

      Saying something doesn’t make it a fact. Most people learn that in elementary school, but Trump supporters are – pretty obviously – not that advanced.

    • Thoughtopsy says:

      I see you’ve failed to understand basic logic.

      Fringe Liberals are not equal to Hillary Clinton’s campaign. If we are now allowed to accuse a campaign of something done by one’s supporters (no matter how insane) then we would be accusing Donald Trump’s campaign of actually wearing pointy white hats and burning black people.

      The fringe theory was quickly debunked…. until the right adopted it, and Trump kept bringing it back… and back… and back… and back… even after it was long disproven… because it got him votes and attention.

      The real points that you’re so deftly avoiding are as so:
      – Trump continually pumped a fringe conspiracy theory because it got him attention. Fact.
      – He continued to do if for years up to and including this January. Fact.
      – He has made numerous statements that are outright lies about his own history with this conspiracy. (They are listed above, so I won’t bother listing them again). Fact.
      – He is now attempting to twist the history of this relentless white-supremacist vote prostitution off of a known lie by painting himself as the person who put it to bed. This would be roughly equal to Dr Oz coming out against rapacious medical quackery on TV with the statement that he always known it was a criminal endeavor and he’s glad he’s the only person standing up and fighting for true science…. or Cheney giving an interview about war profiteering and illegal invasions and how bad it is that Obama started the whole war in the Middle East. It’s definitely ballsy… but it is also two other things: 1) A rewriting of history to avoid responsibility and further legitimize and magnify Trump’s already overblown ego. 2) A very sad comment on his opinion of the mentality of those he is aiming this strategy at. Apparently he believe that people like you, will actually believe this… or avoiding thinking about it too carefully and cuddle up tot he whitewash. That’s really really appalling… both regarding Trumps opinion of his sad followers, and the capability of the followers themselves.

      I also think it’s hilarious that you are so desperate to avoid these points, and face the fact your candidate is a moral and ethical sewer, that you focus on “who started it” instead… and even miss the essential point there:

      –> Donald Trump said it was Hillary who started it.
      It was not.
      Any other point, including your sad attempt at misdirection is moot.

      The final section of standard ad hominem abuse is just sad.

  12. Böcker says:

    The media needs to keep hammering Trump on this

    • charleo1 says:

      Exactly! Trump needs to be introduced as the Republican Nominee, and Chief Birther proponent, every single time he’s brought in front of the voting public.

  13. PatrickHenry says:

    Hillary attacked Obama on not being born in the USA…17hillary birther
    On Friday, Donald Trump trolled the media who thought he still questioned Obama’s birthplace.

    Read Full Article Here
    The Obama “Birther” Theory
    Posted by Right Alerts on September 17, 2016

  14. Jon says:

    Demagogue Don recants 1 lie and then tells 2 more. He tried claiming that Hillary Clinton and/or her campaign started the birther movement in 2008. Politifact, the Washington Post and others have thoroughly shown that to be a lie. He sated he brought the birther movement to a close. The article disposes of that lie.
    Even if you want to give credence to Lyin’ Donnie’s lie that Hillary Clinton started the birther movement in 2008, then the astute businessman showed how easily he can be manipulated by Hillary Clinton. She controlled his thoughts to such a degree that what was said in 2008 prompted him 3 years later to become one of Hillary’s disciples and do her bidding. If anyone doubted that he was weak minded, that proves it.

  15. Earnest Comment says:

    How is the media in charge of anything?

    Trump’s been playing them like a cheap banjo for his entire campaign. Heck they are his campaign staff. He says something provocative and leaves them spinning.

    I’m not sure why he brought up the birther stuff other than the fact that the press will be all over that chestnut as opposed to anything meaningful hillary has to say.

    The battle this election is over say five or maybe ten percent of the folks that will cast votes in about eight states. Always has been. Blie states go Blue and red states go red.

    It’s also about turning off certain groups of voters so they are to disgusted to show up and vote for hillary.

    Trump’s not about running a political campaign like its ever been done before. He’s about winning the majority of electoral votes in November as efficiently as possible.

    Winning ugly is still winning.

  16. Daniel Jones says:

    I repeat here what I told my stepfather after reading the “we got Played” article; you can’t say you were played if you play along.

    Anyone that doesn’t defy Trump’s lying supplies his campaign.

    • charleo1 says:

      It’s true. So what does one do, upon seeing thousands of Eskimos, (Eskimos please excuse the analogy,) lining up to buy snowballs in the dead of winter, as if they were camping out for Apples newest I-Phone. Defying is inadequate. We’ve simply got to beat ’em with the vote!

  17. Jim Samaras says:

    The one and only reason is that it’s all ya got!

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.