I guess the left wing group knows better than to claim that California residents (Romney is one…) pay 50% of every dollar in taxes. Romney only paid 14%, and that’s only for the one year he chose to release his taxes. No telling why he was afraid to release more. Low income people who spend almost all of their money on goods, pay 10% in sales taxes, property taxes (whether they rent or own, it comes out of their pockets) and other taxes that amount to more than 14% before it even comes to income tax. Not rich people though, they don’t spend that much at the hardware store and the electronics supermarkets. They sock their money away in tax shelters and pay nothing.

And a black guy can get elected in a society full of bigots when people of good conscience outnumber them.

Hey Canofcroock, you stated “China looks more and more like a winner”. Do us a favor and MOVE THERE.

……….and then you went on to state “Sadly neither Sarah Palin nor Obama had the background or education needed to be President”

JUST A FEW FACTS:
Palin attended 5 different colleges and Jr Colleges , graduated: University of Idaho , major: Media Communications

President Obama attended Occidental College, then Columbia University and finally graduated with honors: Harvard Law School, also first black person to be President of Harvard Law Review.

Canofcroock, you have to stop getting all your info from Faux Noise.

With the on-going breakdown of family life in our ‘Black’ communities obviously the ‘free stuff’ is not solving their problems which are getting worse every day. As an SS recipient I never felt Romney said anything that marginalized me or said women should not get medical insurance coverage. Guess some hear what they want to or ‘think’ they hear. Obamacare is just another big free ride for the Medical Insurers like Bush’s Drug Program was for the Drug Companies and our scapegoat now is ‘rich white people’ most of whom worked very hard to form this nation. $200,000 a year White’s are not all Buffet’s or Romney’s!

Then we have a good answer. Have everyone pay for their own medical plan and make their own choices. Don’t know who called the 47% freeloaders except you. More and more businesses will be forced to drop health coverage and we will be left with only government employees covered with first class coverage at workers expense. Similar to what happened in Stalin’s USSR! Members of the ‘Party’ were well cared for! We have never had a competitive Health Care System while the Government and employers pay their bills. Now with mandatory demands for taxpayers to pick up the bills we never will.

Most people right now have employer paid health insurance unless they are unemployed. I think we are on a slippery slope down hill. I am fortunate to live in Silicon Valley right now where there is a high drive by many to succeed in this competitive world. As someone who worked very hard when young I find that being subject to 50% taxes on the upper portion of one’s earnings is more than enough. I don’t think anyone knows how much in taxes one pays if all the different fees and taxes are added up. Feeding people that Buffet and Romney only pay 15% is VERY misleading for those who are paying 50% on much of their income when all State and Federal are added up. To make it worse no one knows really where those taxes go. Democracy depends on the kind of people that vote. I am impressed that most Blacks, Hispanics, Students don’t have any idea that Government unions are ‘using’ them very effectively to gain power. With the growing number of Black single mothers with no support other than government food stamps and checks, obese diabetics , overpaid government early retirees out there I think the future looks bleak for industry and workers. Slavery can come in many forms and perhaps at times that has been why some individuals drop out of society. It now appears that if one seeks to work and produce something for ones family, half of what one produces must be given to the ‘other half’ of society. That’s only ‘fair’ isn’t it!. At least some people think so.

Assuming your statistics are right Blacks are about 11% of the population, whites about 70% but percentage wise the percentages of single births versus their total population is more meaningful. This is not so much a racial issue as a moral issue of people no matter what color failing to provide for the children they procreate. It leads to poverty and destruction of civilization. Usually states require you to establish what state you reside in and I am sure Romney and his wife has done that. States do check, especially on high incomers. What the commentators say is not what Romney said. Health benefits are tax free income to the employee. If you don’t have employer paid health benefits you are first taxed on your income and then must buy it with taxed income. That is unfair, especially since the majority of government union and union employees have very generous benefits.

You are very misinformed. !. Unless you run a business and have a ‘ insurance group’ you cannot deduct any of your health insurance from your taxable income. 2. The States follow up on residence, especially for high income individuals. For example you must have your car licensed in the state you live, must name one state as your official residence. California for example, checks that people don’t register as living in Nevada if they spend most of their time in California. 3. Section 8 housing, food stamps etc., go out to all Americans at the same rates regardless of where they live. There is no such thing in my word as ‘white trailer trash’, only low income single white mothers and low income single black mothers etc. , and some of them live in trailers in all states. I don’t think of people as ‘trash’. 4. I don’t know percentage wise how much welfare income goes to white or red states, to white people or black people and I am sure you don’t either. Also I don’t know but believe a lot of the money that goes to Red States are things like farm subsidies which both parties go along with. I have read the posted approximate number of single mothers in each racial group is around 90% black, 47% Hispanic and 27% white. Democrats sure do seem to be jealous of anyone who has made it these days in America. Sad because we used to be a country that welcomed success.

Thanks for update on figures. Will check up on figures. I do not like being brainwashed with false information. But since for many becoming a single parent is a ticket to poverty this is a problem in all our racial groups, particularly so for those groups already the poorest and where the fathers do not support their offspring. This is why I do not support the entire Republican platform and their attack on abortion and planned parenthood and why I chose to become independent. My concern is that we have encouraged so many people to feel they don’t really have much responsibility for their own lives. We blame school dropout and failure on schools and teachers. As someone who finished full time schooling at 14 and earned my living thereafter without any support from a government handout I believe we need to take more responsibility for ourselves. The world and living is an education in itself. Blacks are often educated to believe their failures are the fault of whites and Hispanics blame blacks often. My hope with Obama in power was that he would reach out to these groups, welfare and food stamp receivers, the obese, single dependent mothers, etc., and be an encouragement to them. Instead it seems his primary attack is towards the successful, making them his scapegoats. As our dependency grows so will the standard of living for every American drop. Government Unions successfully ‘used’ the Black and Hispanics along with the poor to get reelected. I firmly believe that EVERY able bodied American has some duty to contribute towards the cost of their government but we are developing a system where many only get from government and give nothing. I have personally seen the results of too many handouts on relatives and feel that while help needs to be there for those that truly need it, when it is not well run it becomes subject to considerable fraud and a prop up for many that will lean on and never become truly productive members of a society. I recall my old neighbor when I went shopping with her and she said she was ‘maxing’ out her credit card because she intended to declare bankruptcy and might as well ‘max it out’. She did and got it all wiped off and ended up on welfare and section 8 housing. I recall another individual I know of from Mexico originally who took all his assets to Mexico before declaring bankruptcy and applying for food stamps and welfare. Not all people who earn $200,000 a year pay 14% tax. Many pay 35% Federal, 9% State, 8% sales tax, and in California 1% mental health tax, plus property taxes and school parcel taxes. I believe many of those people are already over-taxed and the masses don’t know where all that money ends up! It’s time for a lot more accounting before raising the taxes and for us to develop a fairer tax code. That will not happen under our existing leadership in D.C.

Congratulations to your daughter. Sounds like her husband belongs in a ‘labor camp’ like the Russians used to do with these kind of fathers. I cannot argue with you on Capital Gains – increasing the rate on that makes some sense, but also I think we need a limit on the interest deducted on a mortgage. Why should an executive be able to buy a 10 million estate and deduct 9 million in interest on a huge income. Instead I think everyone should have an housing allowance deduction of for example $15,000 and all employer paid benefits should be included as income for tax purposes. Also charitable deductions should be limited to domestic charities not money donated to other countries. I think the government should also take a look at the underground economy who are paying no taxes – it is huge! Taxing more those already paying 35% Federal plus State Taxes is not fair unless the loopholes and untaxed income is taxed. I just wish Obama had an economics degree instead of a law degree. I am sick of lawyers!

I agree with much of what you say but my objection to Obamacare for example is it not a solution but a new expensive problem. We needed to gradually revamp the whole health care industry not enrich its existing situation. Everyone who can should pay insurance and it should be the same for everyone. I too like to help the needy and the woman who slips up and gets pregnant (once) and the ones where the father abandons them, but three times with no fathers is not acceptable to me and getting those fathers to contribute is important. I guess I get to sound like a Fascist when I say more of our useless trouble makers belong in labor camps instead of prisons where they can play cards all day and are guarded by $100,000 a year guards who retire at 55! Too many bums, college graduates with useless degrees does not make for a productive nation and means you must tax and require more of the real workers. I feel we are heading in that direction.

I love it when some single mother on welfare announces she is getting low cost student loans and grants to go to law school. Only in America and perhaps Greece! At least we have some thinkers in our society. Thanks.

Well dummy Romney has never had 50% of his income taken in taxes. In the 2 returns he showed his Federal Tax rate was 13.9 % and 14.1% . A lot less than many working people pay on average. I paid a higher effective rate than Romney while earning less than 1% of his income, I guess that’s fair if you are in the 1%. What I find difficult to understand is how many right wingers who don’t earn high income like the tax rates and tax codes that favor the wealthy.

Canofcroock: Seriously, you have to stop getting all your info from Faux Noise.

I heard the entire rest of the earth, all 5.7 billion, voted for him. All of them registered in Nevada and voted via absentee ballot.

Idiot.

Ah, so he only won by a billion votes then.

S’OK. As long as he won. And he got more votes than GWB, so he has a bigger ‘mandate’, right?

Onedonewong, please present links of evidence for your statements regarding illegals and the military. Or are you just lying through your teeth again?

Is his lips moving? Then he is lying.

Hello, onedonewong. Last I heard illegals can’t vote, at least not in my part of the U.S. We know how to watch the polls and check.

To Onedonewrong: Add your uninformed comment above to your “done wrongs.” Now you have more than one. Time to go do your homework about how there is no documented voter fraud. It was a GOP lie/myth, to get them to take away the legitimate votes of millions of REGISTERED AMERICAN VOTERS who had already been voting for years. Don’t you know? It was, by the GOP’s own admission, a ploy to steal the election for Romney. But Americans are smarter than what the GOP thinks we are. We didn’t fall for it. And Obama crushed Romney and the vote-suppressors.

I see lots of words and yet not 1 word of rebuttal to my post. Thanks for supporting my position

You do, and he’s an idiot parroting the Fox lies.

True but Romney recieved the most LEGAL votes

where did you get this BS from?

Wow, you really are full of it!
Just keep the lies coming, keep projecting your own and your party’s lies and malice on those who defeated you. If there has been a dictator in recent US history, it was George Bush / Dick Cheney.
Your failure to perceive this massive fact dangling in your face shows how blind and out of touch with reality you and your fellow cultists are.

Spend much googling the KKK? I voted for Obama, an white, and have worked for 38 years, never been unemployed. the stupid comment that all democrats are unemployed is just that, stupid. That attitude is why your party lost. Keep it up and you will continue to lose.

So were the ones that voted for Obama. True probably many were getting unemployment but after the recession a lot of people were getting government support like unemployment.

Canofcroock: Seriously, you have to stop getting all your info from Faux Noise.

Yep. $20 per taxpayer.

The military? $2300 per taxpayer.

All the fedgov (courts, Congress, FBI, FAA, NASA, etc.)? $1500 per taxpayer.

SS? $6000 per taxpayer (SS plus added income taxes now that SS is underwater).

Medicare and medicaid? $2700 per taxpayer.

Maybe instead of focusing on the small, minute, tiny, infinetessimal, microscopic parts of the spending, we could use a modern management technique like six-sigma. It’s been adopted by all the really top-notch companies like GE, Honeywell, Allied Signal, Ford, GM, Quest Medical, etc. The winning strategy basically says that the largest impact of spending and efficiency improvements will be had on those areas that eat the most resources. Once those large areas have been examined and optimized, then progressively move to areas of smaller resource concentration.

The president suggested to the GOP that Medicare costs could be attacked, you suggest that welfare is a better target. Six-sigma says your approach is not optimal.

I agree with everything you said.

And you are too rude to warrant trying to have an intelligent discussion with.

I had to pay for all that while I was working, too. Now that I’m retired, I’m living without them–don’t qualify for any perk or program I was never a union employee and only worked for the government for 6 years under SS, not federal employment.

All the time–if Congress had the same benefits and retirement plan as the rest of us, things would get done faster and better..

Sounds like a bonker.Throwing jabs on anyone that doesn’t buy your arguements shows how paranoid you are.

Hey idonotknowmyname, you too like, Canofcroock are : Seriously, you guys have to stop getting all your info from Faux Noise.