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Wednesday, September 28, 2016

Representative Paul Ryan (R-WI) — chairman of the House Committee on the Budget, and the Republican Party’s 2012 vice-presidential nominee — held a press conference Tuesday announcing his latest controversial budget plan.

“Will the president take every one of these solutions? Probably not. Are a lot of these solutions very popular and did we win these arguments on the campaign? Some of us think so. So what we’re saying is, here’s our offer. Here’s our vision,” Ryan told the press. “Here’s how we propose a plan to balance the budget and grow the economy, repair the safety net, save Medicare.”

How Ryan believes that he won the budget argument during the campaign — in which Democrats decisively won the White House, expanded their Senate majority, and won a plurality of the popular vote in House elections — is unclear. And although Ryan claims that his solutions are “very popular,” polls consistently suggest otherwise.

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The plan, titled “The Path To Prosperity: A Responsible, Balanced Budget,” aims to cut $4.6 trillion in spending within the next 10 years by dramatically shrinking the size of the federal government. A centerpiece of Ryan’s plan is the extremely unlikely prospect of repealing the Affordable Care Act, which the congressman claims will save $1.8 trillion. Ryan does plan to keep the law’s $716 billion in Medicare savings — an issue on which he’s flip-flopped no less than four times over the past three years. Ryan also plans to cut an additional $129 billion from Medicare by turning it into what Ryan used to call a voucher, and now refers to as “premium support.”

Ryan’s budget would also cut $757 billion from Medicaid by converting the program into block grants for states, and cut an additional $926 billion by making steep cuts to programs such as food stamps, agricultural subsidies, Pell grants, and federal job-training programs, among many others.

The budget includes roughly $7 trillion in tax cuts, which Ryan claims will be offset by closing various tax loopholes. As he did during previous budget battles, however, Ryan declined to specify the loopholes that he’d close to make up the difference.

“This is what the Ways and Means Committee is going to do,” he said at the press conference.

His budget does accept the new tax rates set after the “fiscal cliff” debate in January, a concession he explained by saying, “We’re not going to fight the past.” He did not elaborate on how this philosophy squares with his continued fight against Obamacare, and arguably the entire New Deal.

  • montanabill

    Don’t like Ryan’s budget? Then let’s compare it with Reid’s budget. Oh!

    • Sorry, I miss your point. Harry Reid’s budget is Barak Obama’s budget which was submitted to the House as expected in February, and is available for you to peruse at whitehouse dot gov, just like for every other American. The fact that Paul Ryan has chosen to turn the budget process into another media Circus by supposedly presenting a budget that doesn’t do half of what he promises, because Paul doesn’t even know that 2 + 2 =4, he thinks it equals 3. But then again, all the GOP House knows how to do is waste taxpayer money by spending millions of dollars on legislators and aides salaries creating legislation that they know is dead in the water before it’s even voted on. But what can you expect from such a collection of goofballs that aren’t qualified to write their own name much less vote on legislation.

      • montanabill

        That was the President’s budget. The Congressional Budget Act requires the president to submit a budget
        to Congress by February 1 every year. Under federal law, the House and
        Senate are mandated to reach agreement on a concurrent budget resolution
        by April 15 of each year. The President’s budget was defeated without a single supporting vote. The Senate, offered no alternative and has not had the opportunity to debate, modify or pass the bills passed and presented by the House, thanks to Reid.

        The budgets presented by the President have been shams which is the reason they garnered no supporting votes. But you already know that.

        Since you have obviously read and studied Ryan’s budget, given that you ‘know’ it doesn’t add up, how about providing specific examples?

        • WhutHeSaid

          It’s rather odd that the President’s Budget was defeated without a single vote when it was just announced that the budget would be submitted on April 8. Everybody knows that Paul Ryan’s budget is a political gimmick. The PPACA is not going to be repealed, and that fact alone makes Ryan’s budget a sham. Aside from this, once again the same people demanding cuts neglected to specify where to make those cuts. Why? Because the Republicans are not really interested in budget reductions — they are just interested in using it as a tool to regain office, whereupon they will once again spend with reckless abandon as they have always done.

          Whenever you are tempted to believe that Republicans are truly worried about the size of the federal budget, take a moment to look back over the years at what actually happened when the GOP managed to win the Presidency: Runaway federal spending that no Democrat has ever matched.

          • The reason Obama’s budgets are not getting votes is because the GOP is gimmicking Obama’s budgets by stripping out all the details of his spending plans and reducing 2,000 page budgets into 500 page documents that have no substance, so they’re getting voted down because there’s nothing left in the bills to substantiate the spending he’s projecting. Just one more way the GOP is hoodwinking the public (and obviously cluesless people like Montanabill).

          • montanabill

            Only the Democrats are calling (without reading it) the Ryan budget a sham. (The ‘Granny over the cliff’ ad was running 5 minutes after the budget was announced) We all know it is highly unlikely Obamacare will be repealed, but we can always hope a few Democrats have done some serious thinking about it. We have to, at least, try to repeal and replace it. I can’t just look at the situation when a Republican was President any more than I can look at what happened when a Democrat was President. It is the total of the President and the Congress that do the spending. I can no more claim that Republicans always budget conscious any more than you can claim Democrats are. If the Republicans think they can win and keep political power by cutting spending and working toward a balanced budget, I say, let them try. If they let us down again, as Obama has with his claims to cut the deficit, then go back to Democrats. The trick is to elect the party that promises fiscal responsibility and quickly get rid of them if they don’t keep their word. Sooner or later, one of them will get the message.

          • WhutHeSaid

            You know what? I *almost* agree with everything you said. The only place where I disagree is that not all Democrats criticize the Ryan budget before looking to see what’s in it, and the GOP seems to have forgotten that it’s not their turn (having lost the election running on much the same plan).

            This is the closest I’ve ever been to agreeing with you completely.

          • montanabill

            Seems to me that people elected Republicans to run the House, so saying they lost the election is not quite accurate. Apparently, they didn’t want Democrats running everything again.

          • WhutHeSaid

            Actually, that’s a pretty weak argument when you consider all the gerrymandering that took place — and the GOP still lost 6 seats. They also received 1 million less votes than the Democrats. Doesn’t exactly sound like a burning desire to keep control of the House in Republican hands, now does it?

          • montanabill

            The gerrymandering claim is a little lame since a few of new districts didn’t fall the way they expected for either party. I might point out that several million of those Democrat votes were made by folks who had only one piece of correct information, the skin color of one of the Presidential candidates.

          • WhutHeSaid

            That argument can be easily countered by noting that several million of those Republican votes were made by folks who also had only one piece of information: the skin color of one of the Presidential candidates, and that several million more had more information but still only cared about the skin color of one of the Presidential candidates.

          • montanabill

            I’m afraid the percentages don’t back you up.

          • WhutHeSaid

            Yes, actually they do. I’m not sure what right-wingers ever believe they stand to gain by denying what everyone already knows to be true: The Tea Party and large percentage of the GOP opposes Obama solely because he is black. It’s the reality that they must some day face head-on or continue to descend into marginalization and irrelevance.

            All one has to do to see an obvious demonstration of this fact is to dig up some video from the 2 major-party conventions from 2012. The Democratic Convention was a broad mix of people of all races and ethnic backgrounds. The speakers were as varied as the audience. The GOP Convention, in contrast, was almost completely monolithic in this respect. Very few people who weren’t of a white European anglo-saxon background attended, and although a few ethnic minorities spoke it always had an exaggerated feel to it: “see here, we have black people — here’s Hermann Cain, ain’t he just the best?”

            Seeing a right-winger deny the existence of bigotry and racism against Obama within their party is like beholding the sight of Pinocchio repeatedly swearing he’s never told a lie — the already obvious truth just becomes more obvious with each denial.

          • idamag

            It is a pretty weak argument when you see what has been sent to the house via gerrymandering and areas where family trees don’t branch. Eg., Michelle Bauchmann.

  • Or you could compare it to the Presidents budget proposal. Oops- nothing from the President yet either. Tell me, who is working to solve our government debt problem when the players who won the election pretend there is not a problem?

    • Actually, the President’s plan has been out there for months. It’s on the White House website too. Naturally, you won’t hear anything about THAT plan from Fox, Limbaugh, or Beck. They want to continue lying by saying there is no plan.

    • hilandar1000

      Bill, you need to look on the White House website. The President’s budget proposal is there. It is balanced and has been widely publicized. Ryan has not specified any loopholes that he feels could be closed. That is the major problem. All GOP spokes-people will not even discuss ANY loopholes that they would close, although they always mention “loopholes”, but when asked specifically which ones they would close, they cannot or will not name even one. The American people showed in the latest election that they do not support the GOP’s idea of debt reduction. Ryan’s latest proposal is basically the same one he was proposing during the run-up to the election. The only difference is that he said at that time that the budget would not be balanced until 2040. Now he is proposing the same budget, but saying it will give us a balanced budget within 10 years.

    • cpbis

      Wrong……Obama’s plan(s) are listed on the internet!

    • The President’s budget proposal in on line and has been since before the election. One of the problems we face is a lack of information among voters. Fox network appears to be the only media outlet unaware that the President has a budget. I personally prefer the Progressive budget which is also on line.

    • tobyspeeks

      Bill, kick your FOX News habit. At the very least don’t just believe what they say and do some checking for yourself. The saddest thing about your most ignorant comment is most delusional right-wing sheep are exactly like you and don’t do anything for themselves. They just take Fox News for granted.

    • jnap

      Sorry to inform you but congress makes the budget, the President can only suggest budget expenditures. Since the Republicans keep suggesting that every person that works for a living should either become a slave or die to, satisfy their plans, the Senate Democrats and the electorate have told the Republicans to get serious or get lost. The Republican party just can’t accept no for an answer. The very idea of once again stating that they want to get rid of Obamacare shows that they are delusional.

  • What is stupid? Putting forth the same plan and expecting it to be popular this time! Yeah, whatever! Thank God Ryan isn’t in the Whitehouse!

    • DurdyDawg

      Yeah well he’s close enough and that’s still too damn close. We need to kick this bum clean out of politics with the rest of his minions.

      • idamag

        Great comic piece. You are absolutely right!

  • Lets see. With the so-called Path to Prosperity we will get to a $7 billion dollar surplus in 2023, at a cost to our society that can’t be expressed just in a dollar amount. By then the debt will be in the neighborhood of $20 trillion. You do the math friends. This is suppose to be a serious budget proposal that is helpful to the nation. Ryan’s plan does virtually nothing to address long term debt, at least not in any of our lifetimes. The assumptions being tossed about are just so much pie-in-the-sky pipe dreams on the part of the GOP’s guru of financial matters. Lord help us all if Ryan is truly the best they’ve got.

    • joeham1

      Lynda you must be retarded. The President has only presented one budget and it was defeated 97-0 in the senate. I realize that you have been told how evil the right is and I realize that the 17 trillion deficit we have doesn’t mean anything to you. You can’t tax your way out of the Obama mess. Just like you can’t spend your way out of a reccession. Obama care for instance was supposed to cost 900 billion. The CBO now estimates it will cost 2.8 trillion. Yet morons like you still beat up Paul Ryan because he presented a plan that the left deomonizes and then you believe what they say.

      • OkeyMor57

        Not true, the president, like clockwork has presented a budget every year. Also remember, it is not his job to write the budget, his job is to provide a vision and for congress to implement that vision by budgeting or appropriating the funds necessary to realize that vision.
        That vision is usually presented in the form of election campaign promises. The people choose among competing visions. The problem we have here is that the GOP have refused to implement a vision the majority of america have chosen but rather, they want to substitute their own rejected vision.

      • joeham, my mental state does not change facts. The Obama administration has indeed presented a proposed budget in each of the fiscal years 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013. They are late in presented the 2014 fiscal budget, but many administration have been late. In 1988 Reagan was 45 days late in providing his. Perhaps you should brush up on the Constitutional requirements and who is responsible for the budget bill. Budget resolutions are the responsibility of Congress. The President has no role in passing a budget bill. He can advocate, try and direct by twisting arms, but in the end the buck stops with Congress. Also you missed the point entirely. The Ryan budget does nothing to address the debt of $16 trillion plus dollars for many decades to come, and not really much at all. Do the math yourself to see the fallacy of the Ryan plan. Of course I’m concerned about the debt, which is why the Ryan plan is a bust and waste of time and taxpayers money.

        • joeham1

          The President has had 2 budget requests voted on. The senate voted 97-0 against his first budget. The house voted 414-0 on his 2012 request. The Presdient has a huge role in the budget. He has to submit him budget by the first week in February. The Ryan Budget balances the budget in 10 years. I know the left who hasn’t read the budget will demonize it and tell their sheep that people will starve and whatever, but the fact is at almost 17 trillion dollars in debt, we will all suffer soon. The President has proven and has even said that the deficit doesn’t matter. TELL THAT TO EUROPE! Were headed that way! Lynda, The white house needs you and the National memo crowd to believe he cares about the debt and the poor and the older people so he can continue on the path he’s on. He needs you to believe that the right are only rich people who only care about money! The last 4 years have shown that the next 4 years are going to be the worst years in this countries history!

          • Ryan’s budget does virtually nothing about the $16 trillion plus debt. In fact by the end of the 10 years that debt will be approaching $20 trilllion with no pay down in the picture. What part of Ryan’s budget don’t you get? Check out the CBO report to see the future of the debt problem and the fact that nobody, I repeat nobody, is doing anything about it.

          • joeham1

            Lynda…Read your post again!! In 4 years under this administration the debt will be 20+ trillion. Read the CBO report! With the ryan plan it will be 20 trillion in 10 years and then the budget will be balanced!
            The left demonizes his plan which is ironic because they don’t have a plan!

          • Lisztman

            @joeham1: Please tell me where to find an independent analysis that agrees that “in 10 years the budget will be balanced.” Frankly, I don’t believe Mr. Ryan’s numbers, and Mr. Ryan is not an independent analyst.

          • joeham1

            Ya see lisztman your such a hack, you want to talk about the Ryan budget. You don’t mention the President’s lack of a budget. You want to call Ryan names, you don’t want to mention the fact that after Obama’s second term he will have spent as much as all the other presidents before him put together! The sad thing is retarded people like you will still defend him! regardless of all his promises not kept you keep supporting his disaster agenda! Check out what the CBO sayd about the ryan budget. Anything would be better then the demonizing, blaming and spending that we have now!

          • idamag

            And instead of balancing the budget by generating more revenue that is needed, you suggest cutting social programs. Are you prepared to pay your parent’s hospital bills or will it be easier to just let them die?

          • Lisztman

            Ya see, joeham1 — you persist in calling Mr. Obama names. You persist on insulting my intelligence, and that of idamag, and lynda, and others… and you have YET to answer the simple question I asked you above: For the record, once more: “Please tell me where to find an independent analysis that agrees that
            “in 10 years the budget will be balanced.” Frankly, I don’t believe Mr.
            Ryan’s numbers, and Mr. Ryan is not an independent analyst.”

            Frankly, until you answer that simple request, we will continue to perceive your hand-waving and name-calling as, well, so much hand-waving and name-calling. Not yet a shred of verifiable truth in anything you’ve said.

          • jgsoliveira

            Who are you? What do you do for a living? What are your qualifications? Do you have a degree of any sorts? Just asking. I can understand you being upset about people calling Ryan names. After all you are such a sophisticated and polite person, right?

          • idamag

            The Brookings Report tells us that the Ryan Budget will not work.

          • jgsoliveira

            No name calling this time? Are you going soft on us now?

          • Lisztman

            No, sir, as presented the Ryan budget does NOT “balance the budget in 10 years.” There is too much hand-waving. Too much of unspecified targets, whether in spending reduction or in loophole closing. It’s SO easy to put out a rosy bottom line if you leave out half the middle lines.

          • Obama’s budgets that the GOP pushed forward were only shells of the real budgets; they stripped out all the detail that showed what Obama had proposed the spending for – so without any detail, everyone voted against it. Just one more GOP sham vote like everything else they do that’s a sham – like Every Presidential Budget since Reagan started the nonsense practice his 1st year in office of keeping 25-50% of his spending outside the presidential budget. So the GOP has presented 20 worthless budgets in the past 30 plus years. Typical though coming from a bunch of losers.

          • joeham1

            Your always make up what you say. You have no real clue about what you say. The DEMOCRAT and repubs ALL voted against the Presidents budgets. He got 0 votes you demonizing moron!

          • idamag

            You are either delusional or a liar.

          • Lisztman

            joeham1, I DO believe you’ve ignored the reply to that, posted a few comments up by Independent1. Or failed to read it. Or perhaps you’re incapable of reading it, or understanding what s/he said.

          • jgsoliveira

            Again, talking like a ruffian!

          • idamag

            Independent, that is another thing that came out of the Brookings study – there are no details in the Ryan Budget. The only thing he has proposed changing is making Medicare a Voucher program, privatizing Social Security and cutting Medicaid.

          • idamag

            Again, I must inform you that the Senate has not voted on any budget bills. None of the bill that Obama approves of has made it to a vote.

          • jgsoliveira

            Now it went from 1 to 2 budgets. You Republicans aren’t simply good people!

      • WhutHeSaid

        You can’t spend your way out of a recession? How do you think that recessions end? By increases in spending — especially consumer spending. Government has always had a role in stimulating economic growth either directly or indirectly. What you truly cannot do is CUT your way out of a recession. Any reputable economist will tell you that austerity during a recession will most likely only deepen that recession.

        Paul Ryan’s plan isn’t a serious plan, rather, it’s a political gimmick. The PPACA isn’t going to be repealed, and as usual the numbers don’t work. The plan also suffers from a lack of specifics about what and where to cut, because Republicans are not serious about budget-cutting — they are just serious about using vague talk about cuts in an attempt to criticize their way back into office. Once they get back into office they will again spend with reckless abandon, as history proves they have always done.

        • joeham1

          You had me fooled for a second. I thought you were going to make sense and of course you didn’t. The Government has spent the last 4 years trying to spend us out of the recession. Obama of course forgot about the job thing. Consumer spending will only increase when consumers feel government is under control. Obama’s trillion a year in deficits have only proved how much the government can waste. There is no economist that will that will say we don’t need to cut spending. You would have to be retarded to say we can’t cut the 100 billion plus in waste and fraud. The sequester amount was only one month of the annual deficit.
          You haven’t read Paul Ryan’s plan so your comments are completely made up. A partison hack demonizes to make himself feel right. If you haven’t figured it out yet, the President’s methods aren’t working. For instance the 900 billion healthcare bill is now (according to the CBO) going to cost 2.8 trillion. He signed a $660 billion tax increase in January and now wants another increase. Taking that kind of money out of the private sector will hurt the economy. Now he’s playing politics as usual by closing the White house tours and telling his people to make the sequester as painful as possible. When you partisons acutally learn what’s really happening, you will figure out that Obama, like the last administration has an agenda that doesn’t include us!

          • WhutHeSaid

            Unlike you, I wasn’t fooled by your partisan demagoguery for even a second.

            The fact of the matter is that we DID, in fact, spend the economy out of a recession. Although most right-wing partisan demagogues criticize these policies, and especially those Obama was involved with (because he’s black, of course), the actions of both the Bush (TARP) and Obama (ARRA) administrations, the Federal Reserve, and Congress were ultimately effective in ending the recession. Just in case you’d like to know, the recession officially ended in June 2009 according to the National Bureau of Economic Research.

            Despite the flood of whoppers emanating from the losers of the 2008 and 2012 Presidential elections, the economy has been improving steadily (if slowly), and the deficit has been shrinking as well. No thanks to a gaggle of obnoxious, bigoted obstructionists in the House of Representatives, the Obama Administration has managed to effect steady improvement even in the face of unprecedented and irresponsible sabotage by people who care more about political thuggery and bigoted hate than they do about the country as a whole or their fellow citizens.

            Allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire for those with incomes above $400,000 didn’t hurt the economy one little bit, just as the economy was doing just fine before the Bush tax cuts were even enacted. The other side of this argument offered by right-wing political con artists is that tax cuts for ‘job creators’ is the only way to achieve growth in the job market — proven to be utterly false after 10 years of tax cuts which did NOT create jobs.

            What never ceases to amaze me is how long right-wing spin doctors will continue to offer the same lies that have been disproven for years, or how many times they need to be thumped at the polls before they get the message that the American public isn’t buying their snake oil. History tells us that Republican concern over the national debt and deficit only appears when they’ve lost a Presidential election, and vanishes like a fart in the wind once they regain the White House. Republican administrations are far and away the most fiscally irresponsible, and outspend the Democratic administrations every time by a wide margin — it isn’t even close.

            The American public already voiced their emphatic NO to Paul Ryan’s plan when he teamed up with Multiple Mitt for the 2012 Presidential election — remember? What part of NO does the GOP not understand? Americans do not want to turn Medicare into a voucher program, heaping additional costs on the backs of seniors who have contributed their entire lives. Americans don’t want to cut benefits for the poor and young just so that the wealthiest Americans can get another tax break they don’t need. Americans don’t want this particular Republican bill of goods, and they don’t believe in the voodoo economics any more now than they did in November.

            To borrow a phrase from another concept that today’s Republicans do not seem to understand (women’s rights), ‘no’ means ‘no’. What part of that do YOU not understand?

          • joeham1

            Now I know why your user name is what he said. You repeat what the whitehouse says. Your a complete idiot using because he’s black. Screw you!! The deficit is up over 6 trillion in the last 4 years. After Obama’s second term the deficit will double (20 Trillion) from when he took office! Hacks like you don’t read anything youjust repeat what your told to repeat. ASssholes like you need to tell the 20 million people looking for a job that the economy is better! The recession thanks to Obama is going strong! The Blamer in chief is partison and only represents people who agree with his radical agenda! Stay blind and keep telling yourself that a trillion plus a year in deficits will be OK. Keep spouting your asshole comments about him being black! In the mean time tell me how much it costs to fill up your tank!
            The proof of what works is clearly Texas VS California! Study both states. Obama style policies are the same as Caliifornia. A disaster!

          • WhutHeSaid

            The only thing that you appear to ‘know’ is how to lie and deny the obvious. The deficit ballooned due to the spending of the Bush administration (remember two unfunded ‘hot wars’?) and the economic collapse that occurred before Obama was even elected — that’s a fact. The deficit has been shrinking during Obama’s time in office — that’s another fact.

            The US is not in a recession. The economy has been slowly improving, and the unemployment rate recently fell to 7.7%, down from 7.9% when Bush left office. That’s 2 full percentage points so far during Obama’s term. Perhaps in your trailer park that’s not improvement, but everyone else knows better. Just ask Wall Street, currently setting new records.

            I get it — you’re a loser, and you hate Obama. Obama beat you badly — twice. You wish that he was doing a bad job, and you lie every day and claim that he’s doing a bad job, because you hate Obama. Why do you hate Obama? Because he’s black. So why do you deny that you are a bigot when you clearly have no good reason to hate a black man whom you don’t even know? Because most Americans find bigots and racists despicable, and you wish to be a bigot yet still avoid public scorn.

            You aren’t fooling anyone. Nobody believes your lies. If it’s too painful for you to endure the pain of being a bigot, the solution is simple: Stop being a bigot.

          • idamag

            Like I said, above, lying seems to be a Republican trait anymore.

          • Lisztman

            joeham, get in your pickup truck and go back to your rock. When you get there, take a sledgehammer to the wheels of the truck, then take it to your computer, and then crawl back under the rock.

          • joeham1

            LOL..good one Lisztman! It’s not that your ignorant, it’s just that you know so much that isn’t true! You left wing radical idiots believe but don’t verify. Obama could tell you anything and you just buy it. That is truly the definition of sheep!

          • idamag

            Sheep? Which party has written rules that they cannot break even if their conscience tells them to? Which party signed a pledge written by a billionaire who wasn’t even in the government? You, yourself, cannot think outside the box.

          • idamag

            Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh are not the experts.

          • jgsoliveira

            The way you insult people tells me you are a very very angry little man with little to say. I wouldn’t be surprised if you abuse your family and beat your wife if you have one. Besides, you do not talk like a real man, but more like a coward hiding behind anonymous insults.

          • joeham1

            Talk about issues! I will insult when morons like you don’t talk about the issues or if you just repeat the left wing talking points. I actually listen to both sides before I form an opinion. Call me what you want but let’s try to respond to the following facts:
            The facts from the last 4 years

            1) illegally told 1.7 million illegal aliens they don’t have to leave the country. (He can’t legally make laws, He is obligated to uphold the laws)

            2) raised the deficit 5.5 trillion in 4 years. ( a 50% increase)

            3) Obama care (1.7 trillion dollar tax) (Too many bad outcomes to list i.e. unelected board making medical decisions for doctors and patients, 45% tax on medical device manufacturers, no cost controls, no tort reform, no increased insurance competition.

            4) Increased food stamps 42% in 4 years

            5) signed Dodd/ Frank Bill (new regulations on banks that had the opposite of intended affect) have set up a “to big to fail” banking system and made home loans much harder to get. 2008 Bank Failures: 28 2012 Bank failures: 92

            6) Said no to the Canadian Pipeline… would of created 40,000 jobs and brought 1 million barrels a day in from Canada instead of the middle east

            7) Increased gas prices 101% (Cut federal land leases for drilling. Created higher gas prices because speculators know the administrations stand on oil)

            8) Invested in Solyndra: $500 million dollars…. (They went bankrupt in 12 months; the administration was told they would) Solyndra owners were Obama campaign donators

            9) Fast and Furious: sold 1,500 guns to the Mexican drug cartel….didn’t track the guns or notify the Mexican government of the program

            10) Poverty level is up 6.1% in the last 4 year 2008 : 12.1% poverty rate 2012: 15.1% poverty rate

            11) 800 Billion stimulus: costs over 3 million per job, and all jobs were temporary

            12) Libya: knowing that the British and the Red cross got out…Obama left our ambassador unprotected on the anniversary of 9/11 Refusing to send help during the attack and then spent 2 weeks blaming a video that had been out since July

            13) His only proposal in the last 3 years to help the economy is to raise taxes on the rich….knowing that it would hurt job growth and only pay for 1 week on the deficit

            14) the so called rich (top 10% of earners) pay 70% of all federal taxes but Obama claims that the rich need to pay their fare share!

            15) Mandating Religious groups pay for contraceptives regardless of their beliefs
            16) Gave 90 Billion in tax credits to the renewable energy sector, but he wants to take the 4 billion in tax credits from oil knowing prices would go up.
            17) Caught on tape telling the Russian Prime Minister to wait until he gets re-elected and he can be more flexible to not do the defense shield for Poland
            The only good that has come out of the Obama administration is that over 4 million people now have free cell phones! People are blinded by him and believe him when he blames everyone but himself.
            4 more years will destroy this country!

          • idamag

            Whut, I am apolitical. I believe political parties do more harm than good, However, I have come to the conclusion that Republicans lie a lot.

          • Sorry but when Obama took office, WE WERE ALREADY IN RECESSION. The economy is better now than 4 years ago. I always said that if you dont have money to feed your children, you have to borrow money from somebody. than you will pay the money as you became from that whole. For years ago we were in a horrible whole and with us we pull down other countries. Because if USA go down, many countries that depend on us will go down too. The investors are investing their money on the Wall Street. We still working and knowing that everybody needs to sacrifice to put our country on the first power again; but is not fair to sacrifice only the poor, the middle and the rich people to be exempt of sacrifice.

            The rich people live as a rich because in some way we the middle and the poor made them rich by buying their goodies. by the way most of their goodies are made in China and they don’ t paid 1 cents of taxes because they are exempt.

          • Lisztman

            Pure bullshit, joeham. “Taking that kind of money out of the private sector” will NOT hurt the economy. It’ll reduce the fancy tax-abated and/or offshore-untaxed income of the rich.

          • jgsoliveira

            Get a life!

      • Sorry, but like always, you’re not doing much research before you spout comments; all those budgets that were unanimously voted down were not Obama’s true budgets; they were budgets gimmicked by the GOP House to show the same bottom line numbers as what Obama had presented, but they were shells of the true budgets and presented no specifics for the spending – which is why they were unanimously voted down. Start doing a little research JoeHam1 – grow up just a little.

        • jgsoliveira

          What I do not understand is why these nice people keep on answering an idiot like you. I strongly suspect you are a high school drop out, making out your facts as you go along and insulting people to hide your ignorance. And please, don’t bother to reply because I won’t bother to read it. Moving on!

      • President Obama has presented Congress his budget every year – you must have been watching FOX “News”. Congress has failed to vote on it. This way they can blame President Obama for THEIR failure!

      • Lisztman

        OK, then, joeham1. Let’s do it this way. The budget was balanced, and the US Government was paying down its debt, in 2000. Let’s put the entire budget and tax structure back to pre-2001 and things will improve. Okay?

        Mr. Ryan has NOT presented a budget with sufficient level of detail. Mr. Ryan, DETAIL the “loopholes” that will help make your math work. In the absence of such detail, Mr. Pollyanna Ryan is merely engaging in hand-waving. “Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.”

      • idamag

        Go back and research again, using credible research sites. Faux news is not credible. There have been four budgets presented. None of them has made it to the Senate as budgets must pass the House first.

      • jgsoliveira

        As the other one said: Why is that you Republicans always start by insulting people?

  • When are the statists going to understand WE CAN’T KEEP SPENDING MONEY WE DON’T HAVE. Ryan’s plan is a set of baby steps toward getting the USA fiscal house in order, but much more drastic steps will have to be taken if we don’t want to become the next Greece. For the president and the democrats in the senate to criticize this plan is the height of hypocrisy. They don’t have any kind of a plan to do anything. No budget, as required by law, for 4 years, no spending cuts, just more spending and more taxes. Obama won’t even put anything on paper at all. His budget proposals have been SO bad that he couldn’t even get 1 democrat to vote for them when they went up for a vote in congress and the senate. At least Ryan has a plan. Maybe it isn’t any good, but his opponents don’t have anything better, because they don’t have anything at all. Maybe the democrats in the senate could put out a plan of their own and then compare and contrast theirs with Ryan’s and then possibly take some things everyone could agree on from their plan and some things everyone could agree on from the Ryan plan and put together a program that would save the US from going bankrupt. They are all going to have to do something soon, because we are running out of time and money.

    • cpbis

      The Democrats did have a plan, several for that matter. They were rejected before a vote because it included a plan to invest in our infrastructure which by many economists would have added nearly 2 million workers and brought in 3 or 4 dollars for every 1 dollar spent. I guess that just makes to much sense for the GOP to consider. No, the GOP just wants this president to fail and then claim victory. How sad!

      • Kurt CPI

        What people who tout “investment in infrastructure” don’t understand is that infrastructure is an expense. It’s not a product that can be sold, exported, traded, banked, bottled, eaten or anything else that produces real revenue. It generates no new tax revenues – in fact it does exactly the opposite, it opens yet another government pit to throw tax revenues – and borrowed funds – into. If business were booming, overseas orders (or even domestic orders from non-government buyers) were being hampered by lack of infrastructure. If anyone could reasonably show how the so-called “investment” in infrastructure has any hope of ever generating an ROI, I’d be right there with you. The truth is, America is a huge consumer and a piddling producer. Instead of looking for ways to pay more government employees or pay more government contractors, how about financing these programs that we can’t live without through the promotion of industry. Industry is the source of all real value. Government consumes revenue. It has never been, nor will it ever be, a revenue source.

        • jakenhyde

          Sorry Kurt. You’ve got it all backwards. Money spent on infrastructure IS an investment…..not an expense. You do realize that bridges and highways don’t last forever, don’t you?

          You also realize that no private company is going to spend the money to improve highway, railroad, and bridge infrastructure….don’t you? So it has to be the government. It’s not money down the drain. It’s maintenance of the vital systems that keep American on the move.

          • Inthenameofliberty

            Problem is that the states are circumventing the ‘Use made in USA to get federal funds’ clause. Instead, they are turning down federal funds and paying for the projects themselves (with state funds), and using cheaper Chinese materials and workers. I am not a fan of Obama, but he can’t take the blame for that. (even though people are trying to blame him). So, lots of new big infrastructures are not using US citizens, nor US materials…….we’re losing the battle.

          • idamag

            Jake, every job created by the infrastructure produces taxpayers and consumers. If we cannot afford toilet paper, we must have it and we either have to borrow or ask for higher wages and it is time we, the government, asks for higher wages by raising taxes. Our tax rate is at the 1950’s level and costs are at the 2013 level.

        • Dana Es

          Infrastructure investment creates jobs, which in turn not only increase tax revenue but also more consumer purchases which send more money into the economy.

          • idamag

            Dana, it is so simple It is hard to understand why others cannot understand it.

          • Kurt CPI

            jakenhyde is right that infrastructure needs to be maintained. That is so industry can receive raw materials and turn them into something of value and ship the finished product. But the US industrial sector isn’t failing for lack of infrastructure, it’s failing for lack of a market for the products.
            You are correct that infrastructure spending creates jobs, but it does NOT increase tax revenues. Let’s do the math. If you take $50,000 from the tax rolls to pay a contractor or employee and tax him at 15%, at the end of the year you got back $7,500 in taxes out of the $50,000 you spent. $7,500 – $50,000 = -$42,500. That’s $42,500 in the hole. Now the premise of spending on infrastructure is that every dollar spent on road improvements, broadband to rural areas, bridge replacement, etc will enable industry to be more productive, increasing the GNP, and yielding a positive ROI. The problem is that US industry is located in China, Israel and indonesia. More and more so every day. Any reasonable person understands that to spend money, you first have to make it.

        • Build a house with no supports, Kurt.

          If you’re nice enough about the yelling for help, we may even pull you out of the wreckage.

          Infrastructure is the support of the system.

        • cpbis

          No! What you do not understand is it creates jobs and results in income. That is what helped us in 1873 and in the 1930’s depressions. Do not see also that our many tunnels, bridges and roads are in desperate need of repair? Or do we wait until the costs are even higher or we have fatalities due to lack of maintenance. Please, please, please try to read economic history and see what has worked even under Reagan in the 80’s recession. First he cut taxes and then realized that it was the wrong thing to have done so he raised taxes at levels higher than prior to the cuts. The unemployment rate during his first 2 years climbed to over 9% or were you not around then. Enough already!

          • RobertCHastings

            The fatalities have ALREADY begun. Remember the Interstate bridge in Minneapolis two years ago?

          • idamag

            I think all those people, who are against investing in the infrastructure, should think about the bridge in Minnesota every time they cross a bridge.

          • RobertCHastings

            Perhaps the President should consider using that image on posters for the movement. What better way to portray the urgency of the need to repair our infrastructure?

          • Kurt CPI

            cpbis, no argument that it creates jobs. but the jobs are paid for by the working class who pay the taxes. Where do you think the money to buy the steel and build the bridge comes from?

          • cpbis

            It also creates additional jobs in companies that make the steel, the concrete, the mixers and on and on. It has ALWAYS helped when we have been in a depression or a recession. Many economists state that it results in 3 or 4 dollars for every dollar the government puts in. It’s an investment as well as needed maintenance. Many of the roads, bridges, tunnels and the like are in need of repair and will cost that much more in taxes if we keep putting it on the back burner. Also, it saves lives.

          • idamag

            As a member of the working class, I don’t mind my taxes going to help the economy and other people.

        • jnap

          Kurt, your stupidity is showing. Do yourself a favor and stop now before you make a complete fool of yourself.

          • Kurt CPI

            Very logical and well-supported argument. You should be a consultant.

        • idamag

          Right, industry is a source of value. There were times in history that the government invested in industry and it paid off. For example: the railroads. The money didn’t jump into the investment until after the government got it started.

        • charleo1

          If I hear one more of you guys, and your incredible insistence the
          government is not a source of revenue, or only takes money away
          from the makers, and gives it to the takers. You are dumbing this
          Country to death! There’s a little commercial airport up the road
          here, that may be forced to lay off more than a hundred people, and
          cost businesses millions. Because the sequester cuts are forcing
          air controllers off the job. Costing everyone a hell of a lot more, many
          times more, than the controllers are paid. And what caused this?
          The stupidity, that says every dollar the government doesn’t spend,
          is a dollar saved. It is a fact, the Federal Gov. invested millions in
          grants, to pay for the research on a little gadget the private market
          seen no future in. And bought every micro chip manufactured for the
          next ten years, going to the moon. That computer sitting in front of
          you. How much revenue, and how many jobs do you suppose that represents? Private investment, didn’t put up the seed money to
          make that happen. The Government did. It is literally impossible to
          travel more than a city block without using, observing, or benefiting
          from something the government didn’t at one time, have a hand in.
          You may say, the government is too expensive. Or I don’t like
          Medicare. But you just can’t keep on, with this, the government never
          adds to the economy. It’s just not so.

          • idamag

            When the government makes jobs, it makes jobs in the United States.

          • idamag

            It takes seven families to support businesses. If they are laid off, they don’t consume as much and therefore the entire community feels the pinch of the recession. If these people don’t care about jobs because they have one, the job loss will eventually affect them. If they don’t care about jobs because they have social security- that, too, is in jeopardy.

          • charleo1

            Exactly! What we have is a deeply skewed, economy right now.
            With the majority of all gains being enjoyed by a small percentage
            at the upper end. While the remainder, struggles to make ends
            meet. The problem in our economy continues to be a lack of demand.

        • RobertCHastings

          To keep your car and driveway in good shape is an EXPENSE, too, but if you don’t do it, you are s— out of luck. It will, today, take $270B just to get our SCHOOLS back in good shape, let alone how much our roads, bridges, rails, airports, etc.will cost. How much will it cost if we DON’T invest in our infrastructure. How are factories in the Midwest going to get their products to market in the Southwest or Northeast if the roads have fallen apart and the railroads are in disrepair.? Get Ryan to answer that one for you, cause you apparently don’t have the understanding to handle it.

        • WhutHeSaid

          Aside from providing direct economic benefit in the form of jobs and subsequent consumer spending, infrastructure investments do indeed generate ROI — in a very big way. Infrastructure investments are even better than producing consumer products that can be bottled, sold or exported because they are not perishable and provide many, many years of returns on the initial investment. Another benefit is that infrastructure cannot be outsourced, and decreases the likelihood that industries served by a good infrastructure will relocate to competing offshore locations.

          Consider how the United States came to be the economic powerhouse of the 20th century: The railroads and later Interstate Highway System generated huge increases in industry and mobility for all forms of commerce. Having the benefits of this world-class infrastructure made the United States a very attractive place to locate a business. Entire new industries sprang up to serve this new commerce, and all you need to do is look at a map of the Nation’s railroads and Interstate Highways over the years to see the impact on the communities lucky enough to be located near a railroad line or Interstate Highway.

        • idamag

          And we have expenses, like toilet paper, don’t we?

      • idamag

        Four plans never made it to the floor. Even if Boehner wanted to do what is right, he heard the hammer click behind him and does not dare.

    • karinursula

      I can agree with you there Todd, but NOT on the back of the 99% and more relief for the 1%. I’m tired of reading that the rich are getting richer and the rest of us poorer. I’m 69, a lifelong Democrat, and this Budget proposal is trash. And loopholes? Romney never answered that question either when asked.

    • Hey Todd,

      Please stop getting your talking points from Pox News. This nation IS NOT BROKE. And yes, the Democrats have had a budget plan, but it has been shot down en toto with little or no negotiation by the same crowd of know-it-all Republican’t geniuses who gave us, for example, doughnut holes, the maxed out credit card for Iraq, and an underfunded watchdog SEC. The budget deficit is coming down, and will decline faster if and when the jobless rate falls below 6%. IF WE HAVE NO NEW LYING PHONY ASS UBER-EXPENSIVE WARS, WHICH THE NEO-CON AUSTERITY/DEFICIT HAWKS SEEM TO BE ANGLING FOR EVEN THOUGH WE CAN’T AFFORD IT, and some ideologue idiots actually admit that raising NEW REVENUE will not harm the economy, we can balance the budget in 10 years.

      We have vast amounts of untapped resources. For one thing, we waste more money and material then many other nations HAVE. For another, the Pentagon budget is a corrupt and obese monster that could gain some transparency while it loses some weight. For another, CARBON TAX. This means, no more FREE POLLUTION and incentives to finally devise cleaner and maybe cheaper energy efficiency. For another, FINANCIAL TRANSACTION TAX. A minuscule fee that means, in part, no more free currency speculation, or payment for flipping that stock portfolio that may contain thriving companies that at one time or another THE U.S. GOVERNMENT — AND OUR TAX MONEY — MAY HAVE INCENTIVIZED OR UNDERWRITTEN. How about TAX LOOPHOLES? This means, no more free parking of one’s dollars-in-millions in European or Cayman accounts, and probably literally a thousand other disingenuous or even illegal tax dodges that cost this nation MANY BILLIONS EVERY YEAR. And how about an increase in capital gains taxes from 15% to 18% or 20%? What, some 1% dude now has a stain on his Pradas from spilling his latte in anger? OK, now we can fix Medicare and Medicaid. I think all this must add up to AT LEAST $200+ BILLION A YEAR. So, now, Todd, click your shoe heels together, and repeat after me: WE ARE NOT BROKE! WE ARE NOT BROKE!

    • Hey Todd, the non existent 247 page Obama
      budget for 2013 can be see by going to the White House website.Read it yourself. Republicans say little that represents reality or truth.

    • jnap

      I want to keep my reply simple and say that you are full of sh**. Obama has not been the big spender you think he has because the spending has been, essentially flat for the last 4 years. Please don’t forget that 2009 spending was the last Bush budget. The reason there has been no budget passed is the the Republicans included a poison pill in everything budget they proposed and the Democrats in the Senate rejected it.
      Ryan can stuff his budget plan in his rear end; it is never going to happen.

    • idamag

      I don’t know where you get our information, but it is out there on reputable sites like actually reading the plans. Yes, there is a plan on the table in the House and the House will not bring it to a vote. We are in financial distress because of: Two unfunded wars and a lack of revenue. WE NEED MONEY COMING IN TO OPERATE! All of those jobs that went overseas went to people who do not pay taxes to the United States or are they United States consumers. This philosophy of cut the deficit with penny ante, is like not having any money to buy bread so we will stop paying the rent in order to buy bread. We need to promote education in a country that is fast believing that stupidity is a virtue.

    • RobertCHastings

      And what will happen when the Republicans pull the safety net out from under the millions of Americans who depend upon it (including you), people who have spent their entire working lives paying into it after having been promised Social Security and Medicare for at least the past fifty years(49 for Medicare, but over 70 for Social Security)? I guess, from your ignorance and the lack of good sense from Rep. Ryan, they are all supposed to just die? Well, so long sucker, see you in the promised land.

      • Everyone who dies because of cuts in government spending should be named and memorialized, with a medal ceremony on TV for the survivors, as a combat casualty in the “war on debt.” Of course, debt will win anyway if we follow that program.

        • RobertCHastings

          Great idea. Unfortunately, as with all such memorials,it will have to be privately funded. I will be more than happy to contribute.

    • DurdyDawg

      Of course your assuming that the Obama plan will be accepted by the Pubs regardless of the content.. Don’t you get it!? The pubs will not vote for anything that Obama or any Dem proposes unless the bill conforms to 98% of what the pubs want.. It’s been that way since 2008.. I can’t understand why you won’t admit this.

  • charleo1

    “Some of these solutions are very popular.” Ryan says. “Did we win the argument in
    the election?” “Some of us think so.” Sure. Me, Romney, Karl Rove, the Koch Bros.,
    the Clan, just a lot of us, thought we won! In fact, I might be Vice President right now!

  • I said it many times before & I’ll keep saying it. We the People should do to Paul Ryan what Barry Goldwater said should be done to Jerry Falwell: “Kick him, and keep kicking him in ass,” after which he should be tarred & feathered & run out of town on a rail.

  • tobyspeeks

    How insulting! How arrogant this POS is! Ryan thinks he’s outsmarted us again. You can put a tuxedo on a goat, but it’s still a goat.

    • RobertCHastings

      Yeah, and you can put lipstick on a pig and it is still Sarah Palin.

      • That last comment was offensive to pigs.

        • RobertCHastings

          I apologizre to any pigs who may have been offended by the preceding comment. I know, however, that it was way over Palin’s head.

  • adriancrutch

    You can’t judge a book by it’s cover! Which is what the title refers to=A typical republican format of saying the complete opposite of what you mean!

  • The only positive thing I saw in Rep Ryan’s proposal is cutting agriculture subsidies. The rest is the same old Republican garbage that was rejected in November 2012 by a plurality of Americans. Dismantling MEDICARE and MEDICAID and replacing those programs with vouchers and grants to states would destroy the safety net. The only beneficiary would be the for profit insurance industry. Cutting Pell Grants is the last thing this country needs. We need to invest in education to protect the future of our country. Needless to say, Ryan believes the children of millionaires are capable of satisfying our professional needs, and the best place for a bright, but financially poor student, is the local fast food joint.
    I take that back, there is another positive aspect to Ryan’s plan: Americans capable of rational thinking will reject it and will react accordingly next November.
    Clinton-Warren 2016

    • rpg1408

      I always like what you have to say, and your 2016 Dem ticket rocks!

    • idamag

      Dominick, Cutting Pell Grants is just criminal. Our country is already suffering from the effects of our attitudes toward education. An illiterate nation is a weak nation. Maybe, some of those wingnuts would like to see us get further down the charts on education so we can be easier to manipulate.

      • neeceoooo

        They like to keep their constitutes uneducated, they are easier to control and manipulate then.

    • whodatbob

      To cut Pell grants is going in the wrong direction! When I attended my State University the cost was 125 fees, books plus room and board. Total cost $790. No tution. Cost could be cut if a student lived off campus. Today tution is $10,000.
      If any thing State (public) Universities need more funding.

    • RobertCHastings

      His budget proposal pretty much reflects his adoration of Ayn Rand.

  • Pamby50

    Ryan couldn’t even sell this plan in Wisconsin let alone his district. The President won the state & his district. Maybe Mr. Ryan needs to go back to school to learn math. How do you get rid of Obamacare and yet keep the tax cuts? Sorry if you get rid of Obamacare there are no taxes to keep.

  • Dan Phillips

    So….. Uuhhh… What? I thought the country rejected this stupid plan already…. Why do Republicans keep using the same scotch tape, it never stuck the first time used it.. WOW. Have you every wondered why you can’t tell a stupid person that they are stupid….. Because THEY ARE STUPID…

    • idamag

      That shows you where we, the people, come on their scale of 1 – 10.

    • DurdyDawg

      Do you watch television? Do you tolerate the commercials? Have you noticed that certain commercials are shown over and over again because some executive pencil neck told his staff that if you fill the airwaves with the same commercial that eventually the consumer will be convinced that they can’t live without the product? It’s like that with the redumblicans.. And another thing:

  • Paul Ryan when your own religious group, The Roman Catholic Church, tells you that your budget is bad for the Country and the people, why do you keep trying to pass the same trash budget time after time? If you want people to believe that you want to help this Country to recover from the economic mess was caused by Republicans like you and President Bush 2 then say who’s and what loopholes will be closed. Will it be any of the tax loopholes that the rich like you and your wife use to keep from paying taxes or will it just be the few loopholes that the middle class and working poor have? Since it has been proven time and time again since 1981 that tax cuts for the rich do not create jobs why is that always the one thing that is the same in all your so called budgets? Stop trying to make the poor poorer and the rich richer and work for all the people not just your rich self. your rich friends and rich donors. Your title Representive which means you are suppose to be representing all people not just a select few, something that you and your fellow Republican Representives forget all the time except at election time.

    • july860

      So true; I just love how Ryan wants to do away with Pell Grants, when he himself went to college on his father’s Social Security. It’s very flippant of him to say this and include it in a budget, but to expect people to swallow it whole is assinine.

    • Matthew 25:41-46. King James, Catholic, any version is the same.

    • joeham1

      Keep repeating the Obama talking points. Don’t learn what is really going on. Blame Bush but don’t blame the disaster thats in office now. Who care if the president hasn’t presented a budget in 4 years. Who care if the affordable care act isn’t affordable. Keep blaming and demonizes, it’s better then learning the truth!

      • Budget have indeed been presented by the administration. Where do you get such nonsense? Presented and acted upon are not the same thing.

        • joeham1

          Not one of his budget requests have gotten even one vote from his own party! Think that might be a problem?

          • Sorry, but like always, you’re not doing much research before you spout comments; all those budgets that were unanimously voted down were not Obama’s true budgets; they were budgets gimmicked by the GOP House to show the same bottom line numbers as what Obama had presented, but they were shells of the true budgets and presented no specifics for the spending – which is why they were unanimously voted down. Start doing a little research JoeHam1 – grow up just a little.

          • DurdyDawg

            You guys will never convince this joeham zombie that his parroting faux news and those ‘personal liberty digest’ clowns is not in accordance to the realities of this existence.. Just tell him to go back to the swamp and cuddle up to Ben (crystal).. Wayne (root) and Bob (livingston).. they’ll suck up his idiotic propaganda.

          • Lisztman

            He can take lana ward with him, too.

          • idamag

            Yes, these people are not making our country any stronger.

          • joeham1

            Look it up Moron. They were Obama’s budget proposals. As usual you blame the GOP for things you know nothing about. If they were budgets gimmicked by the GOP they would have recieved at least the GOP vote.They were unanimously voted down. I’m fully grown and totally right. You sheep are fed what to say. I actually read and listen to both sides. You have proven to be the most ignorant person on The National Memo!
            For instance I know your dumb enough to back Obama care. A bill that niether reduces health care costs or improves health care. A bill that Obama said would cost 900 billion and now according to the CBO will cost over 2.8 trillion. I get sick of you asshole that are so stupid yet think you know something.

          • idamag

            Actually he is either ill informed and proud of his ignorance or a willful liar. The Senate has not voted on any budgets. They have to get out of the House first. Boehner has not brought any of the Democrats’ proposed budgets up for a vote. He might like to, but when Boehner attempts to say the right thing, he hears the click of the hammer behind him.

      • Lisztman

        joeham, read your own line: “Keep blaming and demonizes, it’s better then learning the truth!”

        All I’ve seen from you in all of your posts is a lot of ignorant blame; a lot of ignorance of FACTS; and a lot of hate for this president. I have yet to see you put forth anything that sounds like it came from a brain. I do believe you’re talking out of the place around back and two feet lower.

        If you’re looking for support for your backwater ignorance, go back to the trailer park and down another six-pack.

        • joeham1

          Well asshole I don’t live in a trailer or drink beer. Your an ass to think that people who do are less then you. Here are the proven facts on the worst President we have ever had!
          Here is the real record of the worst President ever!

          1) Passed health care bill: Said cost would not exceed 900 billion. Now cost exceed 2.8 Trillion (Source: CBO)
          2) sold 1,500 military style guns to the mexican drug cartel. Didn’t track them, 2 Americans and over 100 Mexicans dead.
          3) Did not protect American Embassy in Libya. 4 dead
          4) increases deficit 6 trillion in 4 years. Projected to AT LEAST double the deficit after 2 terms.
          5) Increased Taxes $660 Billion in January 2013 and let’s the sequester happen in March because of his demand for more another tax increase 45 days later.
          6) Campaigned on transparency and did the opposite
          7) Campaigned on cutting the deficit in half, doubled it
          8) Increased poverty 6.1% in 4 years
          9 Mandated religious groups to pay for contraception regardless of their beliefs
          10) Invested $500 million in Solyndra and they went bankrupt 12 months later
          11) Cancelled the Keystone pipeline, gas has doubled since he took office!
          12) and finally: the first President in the history of our country to have less jobs after his first term then when he took office!

        • idamag

          And, lately, some people thing ignorance is a virtue.

    • HIllbility, you are right!!!! Ryan should follow the Pope example of poverty. reduce your own paycheck and give it to pay the USA BILL. reduce it to half or lower, and live with$ 15,000 a year, or 30 to 35,000 that’s what a teachers make a year in texas. Volunteer you self to work in a farm picking up tomatos or working in constructions field. Mixing cement with sand and laying it on the floor. carring wood up to the roof and after 4 years of living in missery re-write your budget.

  • S-3

    Ryan’s face just signfies “smug shitbag” to me.
    A face like that can’t possibly be for saving the nation, let alone galvinizaing the naiton to save itself from shitstains like him and his ilk…….

  • jack karmona

    the Republicans are just a Stupid party

  • George D

    Here we go again….destroy the elderly…..the disabled….the unemployed….give more to those legacy kids the “Creators” or our Financial Saviors to send to the Camen Island Banks and outsource the rest of our technology overseas and SHA….ZAM another Miracle like George Bush and Dick Cheny gave us. They will have the best doctors for themselves because the rest of us will lose all we have forever and will not be able to afford to get sick. Maybe they will send more of our unworthy kids to fight more endless wars and the Royal Famalies of Ryan,Bush,Cheney,and Cantor will trickle on us Again and we will be all better And wealthy….Ha Ha Ha! What has he been smoking kids?

    • charleo1

      Oh no we’re not, George! Ryan what a putzmeister! They trot him out as being
      “The smart one.” Not since Jed Clampett, bragged about Jethro completing the 6th
      grade, has a bigger idiot been presented as, “smart.” No offense to Max Baer.

      • Charteo 1, Ryan is the biggest idol of the world. Jed Clampett was braggin on Jethro because not any other Clampett had completed the 6th grade and that was a big deal. Nothing that Paul Ryan comes up is a great deal or a big deal. How the can anyone call Ryan”The smart one” is beyond me, this man has only introduced two bill to be considered in the 16 years he has been in Congress, one was to rename a post office after someone and the other one I don;t remember. Sixteen years where he never thought for himself, he simply voted yes for everything that Bush wanted like the rest of the Republicans did and has voted no on everything President Obama has tried to get past to help the Country. He votes however the party wants him to and never votes against his party on anything. To always vote on party lines no matter if you are a Republican or Democrat is stupid, think for yourself and vote for what is best for the Country and all of its people not just a few. Paul Ryan your budget stinks to high heaven.

        • charleo1

          Good points. I agree wholeheartedly!

    • joeham1

      your a fucking idiot!

      • george daghlian

        joeham…..and you punk are a Koch sucker!

        • idamag

          Good one.

      • george daghlian

        Follow joeham’s comments….he used a lot of name calling and labeling that is typical of folks dating back to the time of Adoph Hitler. The hack sounds like he has taken pages from the likes of Palin, Limpballs, and that old bully on Fox TV PhoneyNews who gets all redfaced and his Irish up when he is caught in downright lies!

      • idamag

        Did you know that your is not the word you should use. It should be you’re a contraction that means you are.

  • Anna Drake

    Mr Ryan You and other Repukes and some Dems and some Independents and Liberals can hate Obama all U want but please LOVE YOUR COUNTRY. Too many died for the Democracy and still dying and YOU deny the same right to your own citizens.SHAME ON U. and all who support Ryan Plan. Get educated and learn economics.

    • Speaking of dying for one’s country, millions of seniors and poor people will die early or suffer many years with curable illnesses or handicaps in order to bring about these “savings.” All of these people should be named in the media and honored with medals as “combat casualties in the war on debt.”

      • I’m not sure we can even visualize clearly what America would be like today if the GOP had had its way over the past 75 years – there would be no Social Security today, there would be no Medicare, there would be far fewer 401k type plans and it’s quite possible few if any of the people with pensions, such as myself would even have those. You can see that as corporations have gained increasingly more power during the past 3 GOP presidencies, that there are now very few companies offering pension plans. Personnally, I could envision that had the GOP gotten its way, Americas could easily not be living as long as they do today; not having the benefits of healthcare under Medicare and not having the financial support of social security, the incidence of homelessness could easily be double, triple or more higher than we’re even seeing today. Although the GOP hasn’t gotten it’s full way, I think the GOP is a contributor as to why America doesn’t rank especially high in comparison to other countries with respect to longevity and healthcare.

    • joeham1

      Learn economics? Are you a moron? At the end of Obamas second term he will have spent more than all the other presidents before him put together! Do you read anything? have you read ANY of the CBO reports?

      • idamag

        Learn economics from economists.

  • emadis41

    Cuts in the Fed spending means cut in the GDP and may lead to recession. Ryan failed the election test, even when he and the republicans were reelected thanks to Gerrymandering as much as 30 states to preserve the GOP majority in the congress, that does not mean that he should advance his stupid budget at the expense of the Middle Class, the poor and the elderly. While most economists say that the solution for our fiscal problems is the creation of more jobs and a fair tax system and the elimination of the loopholes in the current tax code that allow rich people and big corporation to pay low, or no taxes at all, and many to get a big pay-off from the IRS.

    Ryan reintroduced his Medicare vouchers under a new name, but the result is the same, kill the Medicare, then bounce on Social Security and unfund it by two means, less jobs which means less revenue for the fund, and not repaying what the Fed Gov. borrowed from SS. Mr. Ryan wants in the end to complete the financial disaster the Republicans started during GW Bush.

    They are still believing in a defunct theories of the Reagan Economy, which claim that lowering the taxes on the rich will create jobs, and it did not, and forget what Reagan said that “Social Security does not contribute to the deficit”, and while he messed up Medicare and the Health industry. Now they are speaking about “Starving the Beast”, the actual beast is not going to be the Gov. rather it is the Middle Class.

  • Ryan needs to take his eddie munster haircut and go back to running his 2 hour marathons. What a lyin hypocrite this guy is!

  • joeham1

    Thank God someone finally presents a budget that really cuts the deficit! at almost 17 trillion the Governement has completely lost it! Obama care was supposed to cost 900 billion, now according to the CBO it’s over 2,8 trillion!

  • jstsyn

    Lyin Ryan is a piece of excrement. Get rid of his sorry a$$. They LOST the election!!

  • Lisztman

    Mr. Ryan’s budget includes “steep cuts to programs such as food stamps, agricultural subsidies, Pell grants, and federal job-training programs…” Nice. Let’s take away all the stuff that benefits the poor, the working classes, the students.

    Let’s keep all the stuff that benefits the corporations and the 1%. Mr. Ryan, WHICH LOOPHOLES are you closing. Spell it out for me. The only way I can make your math work is to absorb a tax hit, and I’m solid middle class (okay — I’m probably in the top 20% — and I could sustain putting my taxes back to pre-2001). You tell me WHY someone making millions upon millions EACH YEAR needs a “depreciation allowance”. WHY a Gulfstream should count as a tax deduction. WHY the mortgage on a multi-million-dollar estate should be deductible (the mortgage deduction was created to encourage home ownership, NOT to pay for the life of luxury for the well-heeled).

    Get a grip, Mr. Ryan. Acknowledge the fact that all it is that you’re trying to do is bust the middle class, and further impoverish the poor. You’re a lying, cheating, weasel. In the pockets of the big corporations and the 1%. Go back to Wisconsin. And preferably go hide in the woods somewhere north of Rhinelander. The further the better.

  • jgsoliveira

    This guy would be right at home in Germany during wwII.