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After Cutting Child Tax Credit, Michigan Republicans Want A Deduction For Fetuses

November 20, 2012 5:19 pm Category: Memo Pad, Politics 33 Comments A+ / A-
After Cutting Child Tax Credit, Michigan Republicans Want A Deduction For Fetuses

The great Barney Frank (D-MA) said that anti-abortion-rights Republicans believe “life begins at conception and ends at birth.” Michigan Republicans must not have realized that he was joking.

House Bills 5684 and 5685, which were given a hearing in the Michigan House Tax Policy Committee on Tuesday, would give a tax exemption for fetuses that are at least 12 weeks old. This would follow a cut in the tax credit for actual living children signed into law by Republican governor Rick Snyder last year, according to Progress Michigan. The progressive organization notes that Michigan is rated 44th in children living in poverty.

The fetus credit would cost $5 to $10 million that could go to help the 341,000 children now living in high-poverty areas.

“You’re recognizing the fact that people have additional expenses, another person to take care of,” Rep. Jud Gilbert, R-Algonac, one of the sponsors of the bill, said. “Money saved there could be contributed to doctor’s bills and all kinds of things.” (You know, like… welfare.)

But clearly the bill serves anti-abortion-rights agenda of the Tea Partiers who have dominated Michigan’s legislature since 2010.

“This is really a backdoor way of passing extreme personhood legislation, which has been rejected by voters in states across the country,” said Zack Pohl, Executive Director of Progress Michigan.

The National Conference of State Legislatures believes this would be the first law of its kind passed in the United States. But with the GOP’s affection for fetuses and tax breaks, it surely could catch on.

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  • nobsartist

    I live in Michigan and the felons that have been elected to represent us in Lansing are an embarrassment.

    First, you have the half wit Thad Mccotter who submitted 1550 FAKE signatures out of 2000 to get on the ballot. the jackass attorney general will not prosecute him.
    Then you have the speaker of the house who was caught committing election fraud and the jackass attorney general refuses to prosecute him.
    Then you have the punk, jackass governor who came up with the concept of firing public elected officials that do not meet his specifications.
    He just got caught stealing $100,000 to decorate his house for Christmas.
    Soon he will just be another stain on someones underwear like romney, another rat from michigan.

    • Michael Kollmorgen

      IF the state prosecutor won’t do his job, the Feds should step in and prosecute the offender.

      This is why the Fed has Hate Crime legislation. IF the states won’t, can’t or do their job, the Feds step in and make dam sure the states follow their own laws.

      • nobsartist

        I think that violates “states rights”. Their is always a reason to not prosecute “elected officials”.

        I think the republiCON party is a “hate crime”.

        • lana ward

          The Dems murdering babies isn’t a hate crime? What is it then? What about the babies rights?

    • jarheadgene

      Those guys need to go……!!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1343058587 Mildred Ortega Calderon

      Get rid of your attorney general. Can it be done?

      • nobsartist

        negatory. du pont family member.

    • anyasnote

      You guys voted them in – live with it and next time VOTE THEM OUT.

    • lana ward

      You didn’t mention the 2 communist, America-hating traitors–Stab um all and Levin

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7DKWSXHQIDBW5PUAPZ2HZAYYUY Baron Cormac

    I am still trying to understand how these Fundamentalist Christians can be so pro-life as to want to ban all abortions, but want to expand the Death Penalty to include anyone who reminds people that Ronald Reagan actually raised taxes and expanded the government both in size and scope.

  • nobsartist

    so DICK snyder has a fund with 1 MILLION in it that he used to buy furniture for his house with for $100,000 and refuses to say where he got it.

    how can this be legal?

    do you think it had anything to do with his decision to cut corporate taxes by 1.5 BILLION and then start taxing seniors retirements for the first time in Michigan’s history?

    Do you think it has anything to do with his creation of the so-called “emergency financial manager” law that allows him to personally fire elected officials and replace them with his cronies?

    Do you think it has anything to do with him firing the elected officials in Muskegon and replacing them with an “efm” who then took water front property given to the residents for a park 100 years ago and gave it to a private golf club?

    Why does the FBI get involved in “cat fights” between whores but does nothing when lying elected crooks take million dollar bribes?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/PHFCDVFIAJMXXAQRPZNPZY7F4I Sandra

      Nobsaratist

      Your points are on target; however it is Benton Harbor and not Muskegon. In fact news came out today that Benton Harbor is possibly going to be broken up between the neighboring communities. GREAT JOB, EFM and Rick (Dick) Snyder!!!!

      A St. Joseph resident for the last 50 years and getting tired of the Republican politics in this area that is responsible for the majority of this. Also the waterfront property (Klock Park) was taken by WHIRLPOOL with the adjoining land being provided to people who can afford $300,000 plus houses!!!!

      • nobsartist

        Thanks for correcting me. Lets correct the corrupt politics in Michigan next.
        The reason DICK snyder was elected is because granholm did such a shitty job once she was elected and I hate to say it but I voted for her twice. what a disappointment and I will still not listen to her BS speeches or watch Current TV because they hired her.

        democrats should pay attention to what happened in michigan. President Obama was only re-elected because voters really want to give him a second chance. He better not squander it like granholm did.

    • Michael Kollmorgen

      These people “get away” with it because they have lots of money to pay off, and/or defend themselves in court.

      It’s a simple fact that Lady Justice Isn’t Blind when it comes to money.

      Like the old saying goes; Money Talks, BS Walks.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dominick.vila.1 Dominick Vila

    People like these confirm that they are not really pro-life, they are pro-birth. For them the sanctity of life is of absolute importance…until birth, at which time the mothers and babies are often seen as a burden to society.

  • William Deutschlander

    Where oh where do these morons come from, bigots and zealots!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7YGSVNTNCQQKH3Z5SAUNMRC3FE Flying Jackolade

    They have places for people with this kind of mentality, its a Psychiatric Hospital but these law makers would better be served in a true NUT HOUSE, with no hope of return to Government Office.

  • howa4x

    I think this is great. This shows America how the tea party really governs. Defunding living children in lieu of a fetus shows what happens when religious(so they claim) zealots take control. This how upsidedown Christian values are in this country when more emphasis is placed on something barely alive than actual child in need. If life is sacred why not help the living? I think the tea party has reached a new low. Expanding the war on women to their children.
    WOW,this will really help the republican party attract more people to their cause!

    • jarheadgene

      Guess their STUPIDITY weighs in with why so many of them still believe Pres. Obama is a muslim……WHICH HE IS NOT !!!

  • Snowbeard

    This tax break, for having another child, has the added advantage of creating more children for the purpose of a tax credit. What we need is more unwanted children in America. But if they happen to be caucasian, I suspect that might be another plus in some peoples minds.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IXEQ4IX7PJF2EXCEE7MVUHCWGI ladyj

    So let me get this straight. Michigan want to give a tax deduction for people who have fetus and not for children who need help which is already born.. That mean after the child is born, they are saying the hell with you. Bring more unwanted children into the world is better than helping the children who is already born. Flying Jacolade is right, they should be put into a psychiatric Hospital for their own good.. The tea party is worst than I thought. Now I am glad that the tea party did not get into the white house and I also hope that everyone in Michigan should do everything in their power to stop that bill for becoming a law.

  • Bojorco

    These are the same nitwits who like to crow about “American Exceptionalism,” even though they’re the very ones who are making the country less exceptional in the positive sense, and dragging it down the drain into a future of near- irrelevance.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/JCDYOUQPDL6RBF2WIQY7IHJ4BM batavier

    “…the Michigan House Tax Policy Committee on Tuesday, would give a tax exemption for fetuses that are at least 12 weeks old.”

    When do those 12-weeks begin?

    When the fetus is just an egg and a spermcell, or after the 2nd, 3d, 4th, or n-th split after fertilization – and should that egg have just been penetrated by the spermcell?

    How can we have that moment documented and who/what should document that – your CPA, the Michigan House Tax Policy Committee, its majority Counsel, or the latest edition of “Gray’s Anatomy”?

    What if there is another Octomom in Michigan?

    Does the Michigan State Constitution have any provisions for its citizens to dismiss and STANTE PEDE expell from its legislature those members whose ideological psychoses make a mockery of democratic government?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chester-Marx/100003306303743 Chester Marx

    Snyder has been showing his Koch cards. And he has a fund that has really secret donors. Michigan politics are so crazy, they couldn’t be in a movie script, they’re unbelievable.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chester-Marx/100003306303743 Chester Marx

    Governor Engler, closed all the mental institutions, in Michigan. Apparently he thinks mental problems are “pretend”. Thus the folks who were turned out into the streets (think Michigan weather) learned to live on the streets. There were some found frozen to death under overpasses. Oddly these occurrences don’t make the news.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HFYZP2APYPP7H6PWS2ZDQRWFEQ Hillbilly

    They say their pro life yet they want to give a tax cut to something that can not live outside its mom’s body and may cease to exist before it becomes a baby because of a miscarriage then will be taking money away from breathing , living human kid that is outside the womb because of the tax cut How in the hell is that concept being pro live? Are there any females in the Michigan legislature that can explain the difference between a fetus and a out of the womb living baby to these men. Question how do you give a tax cut to something that is not a person yet and may never be come one and doesn’t pay taxes and it if does become a baby, it still won’t pay taxes?

    • rgrein

      A fetus is a club to beat Democrats with. A baby is a wasteful drain on taxpayers – well, 99.9% of them. (sick grin)

      Don’t waste time looking for logic on any of this. The only logic is ‘what will it take to win enough elections to remake the country in our image, outlaw unions, remove any vestige of a safety net, and get taxes back where they should be?’ Make no mistake, the goal is to put us back to 1890, when the top tax rate was 2% – and they complained about taxes being too high.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/D3CCBMN2ZHI3D47ITFG5Z3OJU4 dahlya

    This is the one of the most absurd things I have EVER heard. In fact the other “most absurd” things I’ve heard in my lifetime of 70 years, have been said by Republicans, and
    said during the past campaign. HOW did these people even get nominated for office, much less get elected? What’s wrong with a significant number of voters in Michigan as well as the rest of the country? Have we allowed ourselves to become THAT stupid?

    • july860

      yes

  • KellyBoyle

    The republicans get more backwards as the weeks pass. There must be something that can be done, the official democratic election headquarters in your area should be pushed to find an answer and get rid of these thugs. Write to the editors of newspapers and radio stations and tv stations until they expose them widely and for a long unforgettable time period.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XPL7LVHHKZXB3BKEJZNTKRMBYY Susan

    As the great George Carlin said, “Pre-born, you’re good. Born, you’re f..ked!” When will this insanity stop?

  • jstsyn

    Considering how demented the republicans have proven themselves to be, how could anyone put anything past them. A large blame for things in the past could easily be put at their feet. Assassinations, small aircraft crashes, livelihood destroying deceit and slander of anyone they oppose, and the list goes on. They have proven themselves to be dangerously out of touch. To keep a working two (or more) party system the republicans need to be replaced with a party that has America in mind rather than money.

  • joujou228

    They are pro-life before birth. Once the child is borneed, they couldn’t care less. Hypocrites!

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