By Josh Marks

Biden: ‘Outgunned’ Police Support Assault Weapons Ban

January 24, 2013 7:35 pm Category: Memo Pad 18 Comments A+ / A-

On the same day Democratic lawmakers introduced the Assault Weapons Ban of 2013, one of the primary authors of the original 1994 ban said that reinstating it is about making the streets safer for law enforcement, who are currently “outgunned.”

Vice President Joe Biden, appointed by President Obama to lead a task force on reducing gun violence following the mass shooting in Newtown, CT that took the lives of 20 children and six adults, participated in a Google+ “Fireside Hangout” (modeled after FDR’s fireside chats) Thursday afternoon. The event was moderated by PBS NewsHour‘s Hari Sreenivasan.

Biden took answers from four participants: a technology expert, a media blogger, a grandmother and a therapist. The wide-ranging discussion covered not just the gun safety proposals the administration has put forward, but mental health measures and countering the gun lobby. A question about the effectiveness of another assault weapons ban (Congress and the Bush administration allowed the first law to expire in 2004) offered Biden a chance to explain why he believes reinstating the ban is important.

“One of the reasons the assault weapons ban makes sense, even though it accounts for a small percentage of gun deaths, is because police organizations overwhelmingly support it because they are outgunned on the street by the bad guys and the proliferation of these weapons,” said Biden.

He said that the number of deadly assaults on police officers has risen since the ban was lifted, also explaining that an assault weapons ban “is not the answer to all the problems, but it is a rational limitation on what types of weapons can be owned,” going back to a previous point he made about the 2008 Supreme Court decision that upheld the individual right to bear arms, but also ruled that the “Constitution put reasonable limitations on who can own and what kind of arms can be owned.”

The statistics back up Biden’s assertion that an assault weapons ban keeps law enforcement officers and the public safer. In the 10 years the ban was in place, assault weapons traced to crimes fell by 66 percent and there was a 6.7 percent decrease in gun murders. Also, The Hill reports that upon reintroducing the assault weapons ban, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) cited a Police Executive Research Forum study that found “that nearly 40 percent of police departments reported an increase in criminal use of assault weapons since the ban expired in 2004.” Former Miami Police Chief John Timoney told the Miami Herald in 2008 that assault weapons were used in about four percent of homicides in 2004 compared to 21 percent in 2007 — a 17 percent increase.

Recent polls show a majority of Americans support reinstating the assault weapons ban and a ban on high-capacity magazines. And the original assault weapons ban was popular with the public when Congress and the Bush administration allowed it to expire in 2004 — 68 percent supported a reauthorization of the ban.

Biden urged Americans to pressure Congress to pass gun safety laws.

“In the political system, elected officials respond to intensity…so make your voices heard. This town listens when people rise up and speak.”

Here is the full video of Thursday’s Google+ Fireside Chat with VP Biden:

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  • nobsartist

    Horseshit. Cops out gunned? Biden is a fucking liar or is too stupid to understand what SWAT is.

    Maybe he doesnt realize where all of the “homeland security” money has gone. Like every police department in the US needs tanks because most have them now. Plus, police have the same weapons the ARMY uses so how are cops out gunned? Biden better start enforcing laws against criminal cops because 9 out of 10 belong in prison with the pot heads.

    Biden is upset that there is a revolution coming soon and he and his cronies may be in trouble because they are too incompetent to run the country.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Randy-Grein/1038154190 Randy Grein

      Traitor! Even here in Washington we have cops outgunned at times. There are areas of Tacoma that they won’t go (unless it’s in large groups) because they are outgunned. But then what would I know? My wife is just a police dispatcher. I haven’t heard any first hand accounts of cops pinned down because some idiot is spraying the place with bullets and THEY would like to go home that night to see their kids. Oh, no – cops are never outgunned.

      Look, if you’re stupid enough to revolt, do it someplace they can clean up the mess quietly. The rest of us want nothing to do with you. Don’t kill 20 school kids to make a point, just go to the nearest military base and declare war. Knock first. Make sure to bring all your buddies that think they’re the next Rambo so we can get them in one sweep. I’ll apologize to the troops personally for making them clean up, but THEY would be heroes.

      • nobsartist

        You are a fool. Give up your rights because you are weak and see what it gets you.

        9/11 was used to start dismantling the Constitution but weak minded people like yourself think these crooks are protecting you.

        What a fool. Just like the millions that lined up with Hitler.

        You assholes no doubt voted for the bush crime family and will continue to do so.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/IGHOYMVYX3ZK2VIZ2YLZH3DWBQ John Bergeron sr.

      cant wait till you right wing traitors start your so called revolution The US milatary will wipe all you sorry asses out and those who are left over will be shot as traitors and then this will become a great country again without you

  • lambypie

    If you ever ran for office I would be the first in line to vote against you. You are nuttier than a fruit cake and you are just the kind of person who needs an assault weapon in your hands. Talk about mental illness. You need a good psychiatrist.

  • ObozoMustGo

    Plugs Biden is the single biggest idiot to have ever served in executive office in America. Have any of you noticed that Obozo gives Plugs make-work jobs that are the political equivalent of dig that hole and then put the dirt back in it? I mean, this guy has the intellectual capacity of a rock. His whole involvement in the “gun issue” is nothing more than a charade. How many of you dopes actually think that Plugs Biden had a single thing to do with Obozo’s stance on attacking the 2nd Amendment? If you do believe that, I’m a bridge salesman, and have many bridges to sell you for cheap.

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    Have a nice day!

    “I’ve never seen a vice president that has made as many mistakes, said as many stupid things. I mean, there’s a real fear that if, God forbid, he ever had to be entrusted with the presidency, whether he really has the mental capacity to handle it. I mean, this guy just isn’t bright.” – Rudy Giuliani

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/TBVMMHCVT3BE5AYAVU4EMRK76Q Dorothy

      ObozoMustGo …… Must Go!!!! You are not one to talk about intelligence – you don’t seem to know what it means.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-Myers/100001512942781 Jim Myers

    OF COURSE, THE NRA AND THE WHACK JOBS ON THE EXTREME RIGHT WILL FIND SOME WAY OF DISTORTING THIS TO THEIR ADVANTAGE.

    Never mind that the police are taking the brunt of the attacks.

    Never mind that even in concealed carry States, you cannot carry in Legislative or Administration buildings, Political Conventions, (because the COWARDS in charge of those places don’t want to take any chances,) never mind that one whack job with a semi-automatic rifle, multiple 30 round magazines, and one or two semi-automatic hand guns can wipe out dozens of innocent men, women and CHILDREN!

    GOD FORBID THAT ANYONE TAKE AWAY THE RIGHT TO OWN AND CARRY THESE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION!!!

    Just make sure to take the kids to Church on Sunday.

    • http://www.facebook.com/robert.d.marshner Robert D Marshner

      Then I guess you’d want to take away my Cannon then too Oh and if the Media wouldn’t make these guys their darlings this wouldn’t happen

    • mbee1

      Jim, surely you do not mean the tiny number of police killed by criminals with a gun in anyway resembles the much larger number of citizens robbed and killed by armed criminals while the police are to busy eating their donuts to response to the 911 call.

  • onedonewong

    Taking away some one’s rights is nevr a ood idea no matter the rational.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Randy-Grein/1038154190 Randy Grein

      Hmm, like it’s never right to deny freedom – even to a murderer? You place the right of gun ownership above OUR right to live. Your friend above wants to start a revolution that most people want no part of, all over a misunderstanding of rights. Your right to ownership does not extend to endangering me and mine. We can solve that with a little effort, but first you need to admit there’s a problem – the same way I admit that you have a right to ownership. So, we figure out how to keep responsible gun owners happy, keep them (as best we can) out of irresponsible or criminal hands, and we all go home happy. How about it? At least we can talk.

      • onedonewong

        Lets see a woman’s right to have an abortion is the lib mantra as long as that exists than there can never be a justification for any type of guns r. I have no problem keeping them away from Felons and kids but then also have to be kept from the mentally ill. There was an article today in the Wash Post regarding gun ownership and that VA prevents 5 times as many folks with mental problems than MD.
        Its the age old lib problem we don’t want to judge people or affect their rights but have no problem going after law abiding citizens to achieve a liberal agenda

  • John Kruzelock

    Thousands of police departments in every state, has been on a gear-buying spree with the aid of more than $34 billion in federal government grants since the Sept. 11, 2001, and they are still out gunned, what a bunch of garbage.

  • http://www.facebook.com/robert.d.marshner Robert D Marshner

    He’s a liar and people who think because I own a gun I’m some sort of a whack job are to me so misinformed and mislead I’m not just a gun owner I’m also a shooting victim I thought like most of you it could never happen to me so I sold my .22 cal target pistol Never thinking that some criminal much less one featured on Americas Most Wanted for being a prison escapee would not only be able to get a shot gun much less shoot me with it . so here I am unarmed wounded and the only way out is through the shooter . less just say believing as you all do almost cost me my life . Yes I own Gun and No I wouldn’t give anyone of them up . What I don’t understand is how can you think that some mad man can’t and wont break into your home and either wound you or kill you . Being an unarmed target is the most Whacko thing I have ever heard of you know that it takes the police 30 minutes to respond to a call that is half of the golden hour were doctors can save your life and if you bothered to look at the facts more gun =less crime look at the FBI stats or even President Jimmy Carters data on gun control and look at John Lott’s books Joe Biden is like a creepy Uncle . to me everyone that doesn’t want a gun should pay a tax for that because they truly want to be victimized to me I’d rather defend myself

  • http://www.facebook.com/aaron.marshall.73 Aaron Marshall

    “The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any bands of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States.” 
– Noah Webster

    The difference between you and I is that you believe that the government loves you. I however know a different side of the government.

    I know a government that endorses private prison slave labor camps. A government that wages a war on drugs, and that is also involved in producing and trafficking drugs to fund “black projects.” That arms the Mexican drug cartels. (Wackenhut, Geogroup)(Iran-Contra)(Afghanistan)(Fast and Furious)

    I know a government that supports summary execution without the right to an attorney, fair trial or due process. That supports indefinite detention based on mere accusation. That practices torture. (Samir Khan, Anwar al-Awlaki, Abdulrahman al-Awlaki)(NDAA)(Abu Ghraib)

    A government that has a history of overthrowing freely elected governments. That has been know to lie to gain support for foreign wars. That supports dictatorship all around the world. (Nicaragua, Iran)(WMDs, Pat Tillman, Jessica Lynch)(China, Saudi Arabia)

    “A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.” – George Washington

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/V76SOFAXAIZRWC6MNAX5Z3DLAM mothermaybe

    Thank you Vice-President Biden.

  • mbee1

    Utter nonsense from the tofu crowd. Police have machine guns, no machine guns are in use by the general public to commit crimes and very few machine guns are even owned by the general public as there are a lot of tax and licensing restrictions. If these bozos mean that driving while black makes armed black citizens more equal to armed police wich mace, machine guns and big clubs than so be it.

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