I think he pretty muchstated how much he cares about American citizens and America. Ohio, get him out a quick as you can.

If Boehner is correct that there’s no difference between raising revenue from the Middle Class or from the Top 1%, then why are Republicans so axle-wrapped about helping the Top? Let’s get on with revising rates for the Toppers and hope that Middle-Class shoppers go to the store in droves.

I just wrote to my Congressperson (Republican) asking him to please stop this nonsense. Doubt if it will do any good. The problem is that the right is simply not credible on anything approaching logic lately. I believe the Boehner probably did not mean that it didn’t matter to the people where the money comes from, I believe he was trying to make the point that it doesn’t matter to the budget where the money comes from, and that if you take billions out of the non-governmental economy that the source doesn’t matter – you are simply removing money (I have seen some sites where posters are referring to any tax increases as “destroying” money).

Two points continually hammered on by the right bother me particularly. First, the comments that the “47%” (of tax filers) who pay no income taxes “have no skin in the game”. That is outrageous on a lot of levels, but I wonder how the retired folks who worked all their lives and paid in, and now who make too little to pay federal income taxes, feel about their not having “skin in the game”? I can tell you how my 78 year old mom, who busted her butt for 50+ years and now lives on SS and a small pension feels! And it is not charitable toward Boehner.

Second, there is a canard that the Democrats have never agreed to reducing any entitlement benefits so they can’t be trusted to do so in the future, so please reduce high income taxes first and later we can talk about entitlements. That is so patently false it is laughable, but it is endlessly repeated. I don’t know if anyone has looked at their SS retirement date lately, but mine sure has gone up compared to my parent’s generation. And survivor benefits (for children especially) have been significantly curtailed. Medicare has been restructured and I have almost no hopes of holding out for it, yet we are bombarded with messages that we have too many entitlements.

The wonder is that they can sleep at night.

What doesn’t this guy understand…how can he not get the message sent by the election and/or understand the all too many polls from voters regarding SS, Medicare and raising taxes…

The rich have had reduced taxes for 12 years – they have not created jobs or new business. Instead our economy has been devastated. Bush decreased revenue and increased expenses. This is a recipe for disaster. This isn’t rocket science – a child could tell this the current plan doesn’t work.
More taxes for the middle class will force them to choose between food and medicine or medicine and shelter – great sacrifices. Restoring taxes for the rich will have little affect – maybe they will buy a less expensive bottle of wine for dinner or but one less extra car or boat. They will not suffer as the middle class will. If taxes are based on a percent of income, then the rich should pay their fare share. Like I said – it isn’t rocket science.

stcroixcarp, the reason we don’t have full employment with the Bush tax cuts is because the wealthy created the jobs and invested their windfalls overseas. That’s why Pres. Obama is correct – tax breaks for moving businesses overseas have to end.

Facts never bother repubs. Like the facts that the historical data shows that the economy grows more under democratic admins than repubs; or the fact the taxes are at an all time low and sgtill the uber rich are not creating jobs.

Oh yes of course, there is no difference for you, because, you only thinking of yourself, pretending that you are protecting the interest of the 99%.

I hope someone someday dares to ask Boehner to define ‘small business.’ Small business to me is ma and pa with a little grocery, our local camera/TV store where everyone on the payroll seems to be related by blood or marriage to ma and pa owners … and they are not in the top two brackets. Boehner’s vision of small business must be Exxon and Chase.

boehner the bonehead!!!

The “good” Speaker Boehner, himself a “poor” middle class member before he got hooked on the public trough via politics, is clearly getting SUCKED in deeper and deeper in an untenable economic “argument” of the crooked rich, by the crooked rich, and FOR the crooked rich.

How come the MEDIA is NOT dragging before the floodlights of public radio and TV, the Dr. Faustus of Republican Economic “Theory” – one Dr. Arthur Laffer (Ph.D. Economics), alchemist in-chief of Trickle Down Economics, currently ensconched in the splendor of Rancho Santa Fe, CA – a picturesque ghetto of the super-rich?

It’s really very simple. Someone please ask Boehner, when he’s on the air, “Who are you working for?” If he says, “Working people,” it will so obviously be a lie. If he openly admits, “The banks and multinational corporations,” are who he’s working for, then the obvious will be out front. (Of course he’d never admit that.) As always, follow the money. All the other bs about tax hikes on the top 1% “hurting investments and job growth” will be exposed for what they are—simple lies from bought-off losers.

If it doesn’t matter whether new revenue comes from the wealthy or the middle-class then why not tax those who can most affordably sustain such an increase, the wealthiest.

The problem that I see with Boeners points are two fold. 1. the majority of these Millionairs and Billionaires only pay about 15-20 % in income taxes. I make less than $ 100,000 and pay 35%. Their analysis does not wash. 2. They call these opulent aristocrats as the Job Creators. A summary of this section of the popualtion By Blumberg lists the occupations of most of these Job Creators. They Include: Hedge Fund Managers, Investment Bankers, Attorneys, Physicians, Dentists, Real Estate Brokers, Media Celebrities, and Developers. WHERE IS THE JOB CREATION? John Developers maybe on a temporary basis. Give me a break.

The republicans are stand up stupid. I can’t figure out why any rational person would even give them the time of day let alone have them in a position to govern. It makes those that even argue with them as stupid as they are. Run them out of Congress and the sooner the better.

Yes that is true if you change IRS deductions, you will hurt the small bussiness. If you tax the rich you hurt no one, but Bohner’s feelings maybe he will cry.

“We are worried about ‘the cow’ when it is all about the ‘Free Ice Cream.’ Making simple for ya like this recent eye-opening civics lesson for the 3rd grade.

The last Presidential election was heating up and some of the children showed an interest. The school decided we would have an election for a class president. They would choose our nominees. They would make a campaign speech and the class would vote. To simplify the process, candidates were nominated by other class members.

We got many nominations and from those, Jamie and Olivia were picked to run for the top spot. The class had done a great job in their selections. Both candidates were good kids.

The day arrived when they were to make their speeches. Jamie went first. He had specific ideas about how to make our class a better place. He ended by promising to do his very best. Everyone applauded and he sat down. Now is was Olivia’s turn to speak.

Her speech was concise. She said, “If you will vote for me, I will give you free ice cream.” She sat down. The class went wild. “Yes! Yes! We want free ice cream.”

She surely would say more. She did not have to. A discussion followed. How did she plan to pay for the ice cream? She wasn’t sure. But no one pursued that question. They took her at her word. The class really didn’t care. All they were thinking about was ice cream…

Jamie was forgotten. Olivia won.

Every time Obozo opened his mouth he offered free ice cream and 51.4 % of the people reacted like nine year olds. They wanted free ice cream.

And the other 48.6% percent know they’re going to have to feed the cow and clean up the mess.” This is the ice cream Obama promised you !

I think a lot of senators & congressmen should be impeached from office as they have no clue as to what the american people need or want. They make a huge salary & great benifits while the american people struggle to keep from being put out on the street. Boehner should be one of the 1st to go Wants to cut our social security when we worked years for this . If you are like my wife & I that is the only income we have The factories we worked for went overseas taking our retirement with them. Republicans have never liked social security anyhow/

Well it could have worked but it didn’t because the butt heads were too greedy and because their too greedy it will never work. You try something new but forget you’re dealing with old dogs who have profited from the old. So the old becomes the new while the new becomes a middle class burden.

Tax cuts and weapons of mass destruction were two con things put together by the republiCONS and both are based on lies: there were no weapons of mass destruction (and Bush knew it) and tax breaks to the rich do not create jobs in this Country.

Did your mom give you permission to talk with adults?

John Boehner makes me want to puke. The wealthy have taken their money and our jobs out of this country. Their greed will never be sated. I think we should freeze their bank accounts. The middle class built this country. It is time this country did something for the middle class.

If we give Boehner any credit for being smart, to get where he is today, THEN one has to ask, WHAT is the ‘axe’ over his head to compel him to stick to vain ideas that don’t work and American public don’t want. and/or WHO holds it?
Jarheadgene gave a good explanation over in the ‘cartoon’ section adjacent to this.

THIS FOOLS HAVE BEEN EVADING TAXATION ALREADY FOR 12 YEARS AND THAT CAUSED THE DEFICIT PROBLEM. WHY DIDN’T THEY CREATE JOBS? BECAUSE IT IS AN ATTITUDE PROBLEM MISDIRECTED TAX CASH FLOW. THEY’VE ALREADY HAD TAX CUTS AND IT DIDN’T WORK! THEY DON’T KNOW HOW TO APPLY THEMSELVES,THEIR MONEY! ALL SMOKE!

WOW Russ. Thank you for your service to this country. I mean that sincerely, as I was an AVIONICS person on Marine Corps A/C …anything with a PROP, due to USMC budgets and manpower we didn’t have the luxury to segregrate by A/C. To fly F4′s you would have had to have been an Officer(and a gentleman) so please refrain from your disrespect of the Current POTUS’s name. I don’t care what you call Romney….HE LOST! BIG TIME! Do yourself a favor and turn off FOX news try Chris Mathews or Rachel Maddow, and maybe NPR and BBC America. FOX is extreme Yellow Journalism owned by Rupert Murdoch, you may know him as the guy that illegally taps Cell Phones of celebrities. He really tries to make lots of “good intending” Americans look really silly. And if you want to talk about pansies that never paid the price, what about Mitt and his Dad/Grandfather/Sons, and what about Dick Cheney, and let’s not forget Paul Ryan ? —ALL CHICKEN HAWKS that want everyone else to stand up for the USA while they just count their money.

steroixcarp: answering your question is simple, trickle down economics never worked, cant ever work but the gop wont admit that even though showing the FACTS to them, they still wont admit it because it was a REAGAN idea. it failed then and the Bush tax cuts prove once again no jobs get created because those BIG OIL and companies like them poket the extra money and create ZERO (0) jobs. BUT they give big donations to the republican party so they always want them to pay no taxes or as little as possible like they are right now. I worked a lifetime and never paid only 14% tax like Romney and I never made 20mil like him in 2010. were one of those 47%. Romey asked me NOT to vote for him by calling me a moocher after working my entire life. They call social security checks an entitlement, I doiont remember them ever hesitating to take anyting out from our paychecks, Do you my friend? lol thats why they will never understand us hard working, family raising, tax paying REAL AMERICANS!! and they have lost my vote forever knowing how they feel about us regular americans. wish I could take back any vote I gave them

John Boehner doesn’t seem to understand that it was the wealthy that had whirlwind last couple decades Over the last 10 years, those Bush tax cuts have delivered $1 million in tax breaks to the average millionaire. Income for the wealthiest 1% of Americans had exploded since 1979, by a whopping 275%. In the last year 93% of income went to the top 1%. The income of the 400 wealthiest Americans rose by a tidy $200 billion last year, according to data released this month by Forbes magazine. Corporations made a record $824 billion in profits last year while the The S&P 500 are sitting on an amassed $2 trillion refusing to invest and hire. That’s enough money to create a living-wage job, for a year, for every single American who is unemployed, underemployed or has stopped looking for work.
SO WHERE ARE THE JOBS?
Meanwhile, wages for the middle class worker has stagnated since the 1980′s. U.S. median household income fell $4,520 between 2000 and 2010. Today, because of stagnating wages and higher costs for basic necessities, the average two-wage-earner family has less disposable income than a one-wage-earner family did a generation ago. A record number of Americans — nearly 1 in 2 —(46M people) have fallen into poverty or are scraping by on earnings that classify them as low income. It used to be that the rich made their profit from a growing amount of middle class consumers buying their products/services. Now the rich are making their profits by hiring cheap labor. A JPMorgan economist calculated that the majority of increased corporate profits between 2000 and 2007 were the result of
“reductions in wages and benefits. At a time when we already have a $16 trillion debt, enormous unmet needs and the highest level of wealth inequality in the industrialized world, it is simply obscene to provide more tax breaks to multi-millionaires and billionaires. The idea that you cut taxes to stimulate the economy has been the center of the Republican plank for 30 years starting with Reagan, says The Daily Ticker’s Henry Blodget. “A Congressional Research Service report, which is non-partison, says there’s no evidence that thatrue.” “This raising taxes on the wealthy will decimate the economy and destroy job creation (and thus hurt the poor) is simply not supported by empirical evidence. We had 10 years of Bush tax cuts intended for businesss growth and job creation. Instead we lost 60,000 factories and 6 million manufacturing jobs and Bush had the lowest job growth of any president since Herbert Hoover with only 3 million jobs in 8 years. The nation’s best GDP growth and job creation rate in the last 60 years actually occurred when the top marginal income tax rate was between 75 and 80 percent. The worst period for both measurements occurred when the top rate was 35 percent, as it stands today. In fact, job growth and gross domestic product has little, if any, correlation to the tax rate on wealthy Americans.” Scott Keyes / Think Progress Economy Nov. 28, 2012

is the a better word for stupid

Boenhner is as out of touch with the American people as Mitt Romney was.

Boehner is wrong if he thinks there is no difference between taxing the wealthy and taxing the middle class. Most of the middle class doesn’t have any discretionary money and they haven’t seen any real income increase in 10 or 15 years. The wealthy on the other hand, have lots of discretionary money and most have seen significant real income increases over the past 10 to 15 years. I think the impact of increased gas prices and the repeal of the payroll tax holiday prove this. I haven’t seen any reduction in the spending on luxury gas hogs but I sure have noticed a lot more people riding the bus.
Taxing someone’s discretionary money has a lot less impact on their live styles than taxing their non discretionary income. The very rich simply have no idea what the average family in this country has to do to make ends meet.