By Carl Hiaasen

Boehner’s Empty Suit

October 8, 2013 12:00 am Category: Memo Pad, Politics 121 Comments A+ / A-
Boehner’s Empty Suit

A day in the life of the emptiest suit in Washington:

7 a.m. You wake up, light a Camel. Read a pink Post-it left on the refrigerator by your wife: “John, don’t ever forget, YOU REALLY ARE THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE!!! Also, we’re out of bagels.”

7:30 a.m. You lie in your tanning bed meditating about the government shutdown, wondering if it was such a brilliant idea to let it happen. You put on some Pink Floyd, “Dark Side of the Moon,” but that doesn’t help.

8:00 a.m. On the ride to Capitol Hill, your driver remarks that there’s not much traffic in the city, no tourists lined up to see money being inked at the Bureau of Engraving and Printing. You smoke another Camel.

8:11 a.m. From the car you call the police to report that some jerk on D Street is selling “Boehner is a Bum” T-shirts — no, wait, he’s giving them away! Worse, he’s wearing a national park ranger’s uniform.

9:07 a.m. Staff meeting. The assistant in charge of reading all your hate mail insists she’s not crying, it’s just allergies.

On a more upbeat note, three Tea Party activists in Arizona tweeted that the shutdown is a smashing success, and that if you cave in to moderate Republicans who want to end it, then you are lower than lily-livered liberal scum.

9:30 a.m. You deliver your regular morning blame-Obama-for-everything soundbite, which goes pretty well, all things considered. Your wife calls to say you looked totally reasonable on TV, not the least bit satanic, and asks if you’d please swing by the grocery store on the way home.

10:46 a.m. Fox News wants to interview you about the 800,000-plus federal workers being laid off. How are they supposed to pay their mortgages, keep up their car payments, yada, yada, yada….

And this is Fox? They’re supposed to be on your side.

You tell your assistant in charge of turning down hard-hitting media interviews to say you’re too busy trying to end this dire national crisis caused entirely by the Democrats and the president.

11:07 a.m. Three discreet drags on a Camel before sneaking into another tanning bed that you’ve installed in a dark alcove near the Speaker’s office. You put on some Zeppelin, “In Through the Out Door,” but can’t stop thinking about the havoc you’ve created by not letting the shutdown come to a vote on the House floor.

At the Department of Defense, 400,000 civilian workers furloughed with no pay. Same story at NASA, the Department of Justice, Treasury, Commerce, Labor, Energy, even Veterans Affairs.

And this was totally your call, as some unhappy colleagues have pointed out. One word from you and a clean spending bill would have passed, no problem, if only you weren’t such a wimp.

“I hate that word!” you start to holler, fogging up the Plexiglas.

12:30 pm. Lunch with a carefully chosen group of supporters. They try to brighten your mood with news that the signup website for the Affordable Care Act — sorry, Obamacare — is plagued with glitches.

What better proof that the president’s healthcare law is a total disaster, right?

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  • Dominick Vila

    With the possible exception of Speaker Dennis Hastert, John Boehner is without a doubt one of the weakest, most partisan, and most ineffective Speakers in history. He allowed the Tea Party to seize control of the GOP, and by so doing he allowed them to control the agenda and shift the GOP focus to their narrow and pervasive goals, even when pursuing those goals weaken our recovering economy, increase unemployment, and deny the middle class and the poor the opportunities we need to succeed and live healthy, productive, lives.
    I am not among those who believe the GOP will lose control of the House in 2014, in fact, I believe they have a chance to control the Senate after the midterm election. My opinion is not based on emotion, or pessimism, but because of the circumstances we are facing. More Democrats than Republicans are running for re-election in 2014, several are from red states and districts, and based on what I see and hear most voters in red states support the stance taken by the most radical elements in the GOP. Boehner and his cohorts are well aware of that fact, and they are doing everything they can to deliver what their constituents want. Their stand on the budget, ACA, the government shutdown, expanding demands, and the debt ceiling issue are not influenced by the belief that what they are doing is in the best interest of America, but on doing whatever it takes to be re-elected, regardless of how much harm they do to the country.

    • Germansmith

      The election rides with Obamacare
      If Obamacare process works, do not lead to un and under employment (which now Democrats can also use the shutdown and debt ceiling to blame on) and a larger number of people getting the federal subsidy…Democrats have a chance to control both houses.
      BUT if Obamacare leads to underemployment, outsourcing, small employers sending their employees to the exchange, increase costs of medical care, forcing people to change the health plan they currently have and like and a larger expenditures in the subsidies send to private health insurance companies than forecasted….then, we can call Obama Daffy Duck.

      • Dominick Vila

        One of the most important – and controversial – elements of the 2012 election was Obamacare, and not only was President Obama re-elected by a comfortable margin, but the GOP lost seats in the House.
        The Affordable Care Act was passed by both chambers of Congress, signed by a U.S. President, declared constitutional by the Supreme Court, and influenced the outcome of a presidential election. If that is not evidence of support, I don’t know what is.
        There is no doubt in my mind that ACA, like all other government programs, will be modified as we learn more about its strengths and weaknesses, but that does not mean it is a failure or counter productive.
        In addition to moral and social considerations, ACA will give access to preventive medical care to millions of fellow American who are currently uninsured because they cannot afford high insurance company premiums. Additionally, it has the long term potential to lower healthcare costs for the business community. The high premiums they currently pay will have to be lowered to match or be close to those paid by the folks that join the ACA exchanges. Interestingly, one of the sector of our economy that may benefit from ACA is the insurance industry, which is about to see a huge increase in the number of insured.

        • TZToronto

          Not to mention the people who couldn’t get insurance because of pre-existing conditions but now can, thanks to ACA.

          • docb

            The last 2011 repub bagger debt limit debacle COST the US tax payer $100 billion in extra INTEREST PAYMENTS with just the .08% interest rate hike for the Credit Rating DOWNGRADE!

            These guys are stupid repub TERRORISTS…

        • Germansmith

          Insurance is a tool used to protect a person or an asset against a quantifiable risk (basically, if you do not know the risk, you can not design an insurance policy for it). I do not believe we have enough data to know what costs the uninsurable people with chronic diseases will bring into the system and rates increases will be control by the Feds (I expect some companies will opt out of the exchanges and attaining health insurance in some places will be the same as getting home insurance in Miami)
          Insurance companies are doing an “outstanding job” in projecting fear and uncertainty. Current policies are being cancelled and current clients (not subsidy eligible) are being forced to more expensive higher deductible policies that complies with the ACA metal defined policies. My clients are cancelling their small group policies to send their employees to the exchange for the subsidies. Some of my clients are becoming very careful about growing over 50 employees so they would not be subject to ACA forcing them to offer health insurance to their employees.
          I honestly do not see how ACA would work in the short run….and if that proves to be true, I forecast failure to the Democrats in the next election (and the extinction of ACA)
          I think the Tea Party Republicans are doing the Democrats a political favor by giving them an expiatory goat to blame for the unemployment and market crash due to occur shortly.

          • sigrid28

            A quibble: You say, ” I do not believe we have enough data to know what costs the uninsurable people with chronic diseases will bring into the system.” It is only recently that health insurance companies have been so emboldened as to drop people from policies when they were sick and refuse to insure people with chronic conditions. So there is probably a huge data bank that can be accessed to answer this question.

            Furthermore, for thirty years at least, some states have required health insurers to form pools and take turns insuring people deemed uninsurable because of prior conditions–that way the extra costs were spread out fairly. That was the only way my mother could be insured, because she had a stroke during open heart surgery (she had rheumatic heart disease) and two types of breast cancer–the two vascular traumas she survived by 25 years; the two cancers, each for more than ten. To help out my dad, who was a marvelous husband and caregiver, I paid her monthly health insurance premiums throughout the 1980s, until she qualified for Medicare: $236/month. The states with these programs must also have data that can be mined.

            Furthermore, I think it would be good to aggregate data on outcomes of insuring patients like my mother, who not only survived severe trauma but disease thanks to medical advances we now take for granted. How much did her survival ensure the survival of others with the same conditions? Cost/benefit analyses ought to factor in life-saving outcomes and their value as well.

            Finally, we should all look at the same time at the pay of CEOs and others who profit from the insurance industry. My impression is that my mother’s policy was reasonable for the time; she and my father, and her doctors, produced great results; her doctors made very respectable salaries; and the health insurance industries made off like bandits. So why not extend these benefits all around to all patients with pre-existing medical conditions?

          • Germansmith

            High Risk pools have been formed in most states and what normally happen is that they run out of money and close the pool for additional members….because the problem is not sickness, but the way we provide and price healthcare services and fail to control costs and fraud.
            Instead of reinventing the wheel, we should have taken the process from other countries with national health systems that work and bring it to America.
            It is wrong to drop people or increase premiums because they get sick and most or all states have already laws in their books prohibiting that, so I have a tendency to look at some of these stories as suspicious.
            Children should not be denied coverage in any way and in respect to adults, buying health insurance when you get sick, to me, is the equivalent of trying to buy life insurance when you are dying or automobile insurance when you just had an accident.
            I can tell you a dozen stories of people of good financial status that decided NOT to buy health insurance while they were healthy (BMW and big flat TV screen far more valuable in their view), but the moment they had a health issue, they call me looking to buy and have the health insurance company pay for their treatment…. I use to tell them ” too late now, good luck with the State healthcare”
            Now I can tell them “Is OK, Obamacare will help you and your treatment costs will be paid by the rest of us either in the form of taxes, borrowed money from China and increased premium payments”

          • sigrid28

            So you agree that the data to provide a cost-benefit analysis of insuring those with pre-existing conditions is available. So is, apparently, a ton of anecdotal “evidence” of questionable value, such as what you mention above.

          • Germansmith

            I am not sure if the disparate states even collected data and from whom and how many people had even access to the fund pool…so NO
            Just because I know what my clients are charged for premiums and what are their overall medical costs (and I do not) does not mean that I can determine what would be the cost of medical care of an overweight smokers living in an urban environment that never had health insurance.
            But I guess we will soon find out…..

          • sigrid28

            Just so there’s no misunderstanding here, my mother was never overweight, never smoked, and contracted rheumatic fever in her thirties, probably because she was weakened after an ectopic pregnancy. She and my father were both World War II veterans, she a nurse cadet. He lost part of his hearing in the Pacific theatre and finally qualified for VA disability benefits quite late in life. Many others who, like my parents, have pre-existing conditions, will now be able to buy health insurance thanks to the ACA.

            Also, I do not appreciate the xenophobic assumptions behind your identification of this group as “overweight smokers living in an urban environment that never had life insurance.” Your racial animus and selfishness are on full display.

          • Germansmith

            Your family was NOWHERE near my mind when I was talking about the people with chronic sickness and the inability to evaluate risk and the costs of providing health care. I know not why they had no access to VA Benefits as soon as they left the service, but the VA System incompetence is a subject for another day.
            When I talk about urban environment I do not envision any race or national identity, I just talking about low income, low education and poor eating and life habits. Our “urban environment” is not just black, it is also Hispanic with a sampling of token whites.
            You have read my post before and if I want to say black….I say black, I do not use the euphemism so loved by political correct speak. Please do not read racial discrimination just because I do not agree with the left perceptions.
            If you feel is xenophobic to look down on some lazy, irresponsible people in our urban environment (what the hell, lets call it ghetto if you like it better) is because I came from that environment and I know there is a way out for those willing to educate themselves and work hard and smart and I count with plenty of urban dwellers as my clients (what the hell, lets call them black and brown, is it better now?) who has been able to rise above the designed permanent poverty with hard work and smart financial planning.

          • sigrid28

            I appreciate the fact that you responded, because I think you have a lot to offer people of all backgrounds through your knowledge of health insurance. Looking at your last paragraph, it is my experience from living near poor white communities that the expensive truck or car and huge TV crowd in fact go in and out of employment, taking benefits for a time and then going off them. Others, like us, may have been stripped of their homes through foreclosure but still have some items left that are of value. For us, too, the in and out of work model applies.

            Having taught school in Chicago, I can comment on families I knew coming out of many of the ethnic neighborhoods where I arrived in my huge old vehicle with tufted cloth upholstery I called my living room on wheels. Each neighborhood is different. In Latino neighborhoods, families are coherent but my students sometimes slept with a bat under their beds. They would go to the doctor to translate for their parents, yet these capable children did not speak either English or Spanish with native fluency. In class, they were extremely hardworking, affable, tuned in to the teacher as an authority figure (few problems with managing getting along with different levels of authority), and terrific as team players.

            My black high school students also came from cohesive families, and some had their own children. There might be three generations living in a home. If a mother and daughter had a falling out, the daughter could move in with an aunt. The living environments were cohesive, with everyone in the same apartment building knowing everyone else, everyone who lived next door, recognizing anyone new to the neighborhood. Many students worked themselves and had parents who worked, but there was a lot of temporary employment and underemployment. A problem with the temporary need for benefits was that the presence of a father in the home limited them. But fathers were there, nonetheless. One wealthy child was the son of a famous gang leader in prison. When I called his home to report him absent, an uncle always answered the phone. The son began to be absent more and more often, and finally quit school. Years later I read in the paper that he was in prison.

            Other student in our school were bussed in from an Arab neighborhood nearby to bring up the white count in the school, and most called themselves Palestinian or Jordanian. They were bilingual, came from huge cohesive families, and worked very hard to fit in. After Ramadan, they had a feast for all of the teachers and staff with food provided by the ethnic restaurants for which many parents worked. Once my white principal, who didn’t like a Ph.D. teaching in her school, saw to it that the TV I’d ordered for the day was locked in a closet–and there she sat, ready to do her evaluation of my introductory class on “Moby Dick.” One of the Arab students, a weight lifter, appeared at the door carrying a huge TV he had commandeered from another room. Everyone cheered! I popped in my VCR, and we were off on a whaling ship on the high seas.

            Finally, about VA benefits. In his novel “Little Dorritt,” Charles Dickens calls the English government offices one of his characters visits over and over again to obtain a patent “the Office of How Not to Do It.” That was the VA system to my dad. First, his ears popped and got infected out at sea and were healed when he arrived on shore. Then these records were destroyed in a fire. He resisted working on breaking through these impediments, until he needed hearing aides. Then it took his three college educated children years to bring it about. My mother never qualified. Nurse cadets had their nursing degrees paid for by the government, but must not have been enlisted even though part of her training took place at the VA hospital in Chicago, I believe, near Northwestern school of medicine. Then the war was over.

          • elw

            I completely agree that it would have been much better for everyone if we could have gotten a centralized single payer system in this Country instead of Obamacare. But you know as well as I do that that was politically impossible. As you do, I know people who chose not to pay for health insurance to use their money other ways (I have little respect for them), and that is why a mandate is so important. The truth is those of us who have diligently made sure their budget included health care costs in the form of health insurance and have paid their taxes have been paying for those who have not for a very long time. In this Country anyone without health insurance can go to the emergency room and get treated even if that includes unpaid for hospitalization and that cost is spread to the rest of us. If anything the mandate will help to alleviate that issue. As far as what we can afford as a Nation, well that is a choice isn’t it? If as a Country we want health care coverage for more people then we will just have to figure out how to pay for it and that might mean more taxes, Right now as it stands our health care cost twice the amount and more than any other industrialized nations’ costs and most of them have a single payer system. We need to change that and the ACA is step one in the process.

          • Elisabeth Gordon

            Seriously? nobody forced Romney to be an A $$ – nobody has ever forced him to do anything. If you want to talk empty suits…let’s start with Romney and Ryan….posturing idiots thinking that they could beat the black guy in the White House with nothing but empty rhetoric and dismal personalities….too funny…

          • Germansmith

            Being a bit prejudice in your dislike of Republicans?
            This “empty suit” made millions of dollars in the global economy, is an outstanding family man and was a very decent Mass Governor that negotiated with the Democratic Mass Legislature to implement the first statewide healthcare plan among other things.
            The Romney you saw on TV during the primaries and on the general election IS NOT the same guy.
            Cause and Effect….Bush Jr. helped elect Obama (after Bush, nobody wanted another warmonger Republican even if he was a war hero) so we elected an inexperience black dude.
            After Romney was forced to go to the “stupid area of the right wing” to win the primaries, he was kind of stock there

          • Elisabeth Gordon

            …sorry, ya lost me at “inexperience (sic) black dude”

          • Elisabeth Gordon

            YUP, OK – he couldn’t even win Massachusetts…whatever…have your fantasy…

          • Independent1

            If Romney was such an outstanding governor, how come he had a 31% approval rating at the end of his 1st term?? Romney didn’t run for a second term because he new clearly it was a lost cause. His idiot governorsship almost devastated Massachusett’s educational community with his idiot budget cuts. And he’s an outstanding family man?? Is that what you call someone who will spew one lie after another in presidential debates??? Sorry, but I don’t buy into that crap!!!

            And with respect to ‘making millions of dollars on the global economy”, any idiot can do that if DADDY bankrollsl you into a business in which you have absolutely no moral convictions!! Like leverage buying out foundering companies, stripping them of every asset, pirating their pension plan monies and destroying companies with millions of Americans out of jobs and pensions in the wake!! Mitt Romney is the biggest lowlife on the planet!!

            In the midst of America’s greatest recession since the big depression, despite supposedly no longer being associated with Bain, Mitt was still in cohoots with a number of his pirating buddies sucking up foundering companies for a song, destroying them and shipping all their jobs to China – that was happening within a week of the 2012 elections.

            And guess why totally unAmerican Mitt kept pleading with Obama to let GM and Chrysler go bankrupt!! Because he wanted to buy both companies for a song when they couldn’t get financing anywhere else, destroy them and ship the majority of the American auto industry to China – Just like he and his billionaire hedgefund buddy Singer did to the auto industries largest small parts maker Delphi. Bought the company for around 69 cents/share, dumped all 25,000 unionized jobs, sold off all it’s American assets, pirated the pension funds while dumping the pension liabilities onto the American taxpayers. All this took place while Obama was bailing out GM and Chrysler.

            And this “outstanding family man” had the gall to go even further in trying to destroy GM and Chrysler – when they were trying to get production going, Mitt and Singer initially refused to have Delphi provide them with the small parts (like steering columns and steering wheels) to get production started. He and Singer hoped they could FORCE GM AND CHRYSLER INTO BANKRUPTCY!! Fortunately, the judge overseeingthe buyout process nixed that little fiasco – and you call this guy and American??? He’s no better than Blackbeard the Pirate!!!!

            By the way, the American small parts maker with 25,000 union employees that Mitt and Singer destroyed and shipped to China – Now has almost 100,000 employees in China and Mexico and as I mentioned above, guess who’s footing the bill for all the pension monies Mitt, Singer and some of the other investors in that totally unAmerican GREAT BUSINESS DEAL AS YOU SEE IT – you, me and millions of other Americans!! If you buy an American car and the small parts made in China and Mexico don’t stand up for you – REMEMBER TO SEND MITT a thank you note!!!

          • elw

            How you have concluded that there is not enough data to know what the costs of the less healthy around us will bring into the system is beyond me. That date is very much available and known for close to a century. It is the one of the reasons the Employee based system was adopted and the reason why people with chronic conditions and preexisting risks cannot get coverage in the individual market. It is also the reason we have Medicare and now ACA (the reason being the employer base system is failing). If you do not understand how ACA will work, I suggest you take a good look at Medicare and President Bush’s Prescription Drug Program. Both are based on the same community rating systems as ACA, where everyone is mandated to pay into the system no matter their health status. You know people like you forecasted failure for Medicare, they were wrong and so are you.

          • Germansmith

            If I am wrong…so much better for the country and I will be happy to be wrong
            Time will tell

          • elw

            Well, for sure time will tell who is wrong and who is right.

          • DurdyDawg

            True, but in the mean time try not to be a modern Nostradamus.. It’s always counter productive to criticize a hollywood movie without ever watching it and the same applies to ACA.. Give it a chance AFTER it takes full effect, NOT before and if it turns into a failure then we’ll all join together to protest it. My take on it is that Obamacare IS bad….. For the 1%ers because they’ll no longer be free to fraudulently manipulate health care. Have you already forgotten a few years back when we were fed up with hearing about medicare fraud? It occurred because the lawyers (politicians) whittled it’s strength down to several cracks and loop holes.. ACA doesn’t have as many and these toads are disgusted because they’ll have to start all over again to re-whittle (the only things they can can agree on). We’ve been wanting something to replace medicare for decades and when it comes along, it’s refused because the ‘right’ people didn’t come up with it first.

          • omgamike

            I believe that most of the insurance companies that were going to drop out of the exchanges have already done so. Which will make it an even better deal for the remaining companies as they will have a large pool of people to work with. Since the ACA only affects people who don’t have insurance through their employers already, or are unemployed or can’t afford policies with their present incomes, the number of companies affected by the requirements of the ACA, overall, is truly relatively small.

            I also disagree with your fervent hopes that the ACA doesn’t work the way it’s supposed to. It has already helped countless people who can keep their kids on their insurance until they’re 26. And the help it will provide to millions of people who can no longer be denied health insurance due to pre-existing conditions. And no longer has to worry about lifetime caps on coverage. And the closing of the donut hole.

            Romney was an a**hole without any help from the tea baggers. The only way that man could have been elected to dog catcher would have been to buy every vote in La Jolla.

        • nana4gj

          No matter the unemployment status, I think the public is fed up with this do nothing but harm the country GOP. They know that in the first term, the GOP’s mission was to fail the President and make him a one termer. In his second term, since they failed themselves, their new mission is to shut down his government, cut off the funding in every way possible, and paralyse him.

          I think the public knows full well who is doing all this harm including sustaining unemployment, actually causing it now.

          I meant this in response to Germansmith above.

      • elw

        As a frontline health care professional I am going to tell you right now that Obamacare is going to work. The rocky start is not unusual with a Nationwide program in which many moving parts have to be coordinated. I was on the frontlines in 2006 when President Bush implemented the Prescription drug program, it was a mess with enough bugs in it to make the recipients, doctor’s offices, pharmacies, and drug supplier pull out their hair; It was a bad program that had to be tweaked and adjusted but somehow it turned into something that works and actually helps. By the time 2016 comes around Obamacare will be well establish and it will be very clear how it has affect the economy. If it is anything like Medicare was, it will be a cash cow for the medical community and success with its recipients. If you ever read about the history of Medicare you will find that many of the same prediction were made about it as are now being made about Obamacare and none of them came true.

        • Germansmith

          PPACA Cash cow for Medical community…YES it will be
          Medicare a cash cow for the medical community (and the NOT so medical community)? YES IT IS (including billions in fraudulent charges) And BTW, do you remember the healthcare costs before Medicare set out the minimum and what was covered?
          The Medicare D program a Cash Cow for BIG Pharma? YES IT IS…while we still pay for the highest RX prices in the world.
          I understand your point of view, as a healthcare professional, you just want job security and getting paid and I am sure compassion is also part of your equation, but my concern is not the individual trees, but the health of the forest
          But is OK money is no object, we have trillions $$$$ in surplus

          • elw

            I find your response a bit confusing. Are you saying that Medicare is responsible for the continually increasing costs of health care? BTW, health care professional always have job security. people always get sick and always need someone to help them. Job security has nothing to do with my views.

      • omgamike

        Please explain how the ACA can lean to worse unemployment at the very least, or with your other one, underenployment. Another one you used that could use explaining in more detail is the outsourcing. Sounds like you are using everything the right wing thinks will go wrong. And since the right wing never votes democratic anyway, and since a majority of southern states are highly gerrymandered, the possibility of the house swinging back to the dems is highly unlikely, even under the best of circumstances. But I believe the Senate will stay in dem hands due to the constant habit of repubs always sticking their feet in their mouths.

        • Germansmith

          I do not pay much attention to the talking heads of either side
          I see them as paid spokesmen for whoever want to get their point across…..BUT I do listen to my clients (small to medium size businesses struggling to survive and to make a profit)
          The benefit costs to a business normally add about an additional third to the cost of an employee, so to maximize profits it is perfectly logical that you limit the number of employees and fight to keep down benefit costs.
          Small businesses (<50 employees) do not have to offer health coverage and there is NO penalty if your employees qualify for a subsidy…why have any health plan at all? They can offer more income or any other equally tax beneficial benefits and still save a pretty penny.
          Medium Size businesses near 50 employees will evaluate what their core activity is as to keep employment down and NOT be subject to ACA. Do they need to do their own IT or accounting or cleaning, or shipping? Maybe NOT…welcome to outsourcing !! IT, Accounting can be done in India.
          Give you an real example. One set of companies were ready to join because they were own by a common company outside the US. Due to ACA the whole process was put on hold and hiring independent contractors (1099) has become an increase part of their hiring strategy (of course a 1099 can not work full time of the IRS would consider him an employee…so there it goes underemployment)
          Do I need to go further

    • elw

      Dominick, I love and respect you, but I really hope you are wrong on this. I know we are facing gerrymandered districts in the next election, but those are filled with Social Security recipients who need their checks and will really feel the bite if the Republicans drag this into the debt ceiling fight and actually does shut down the government and the Country, which will mean no Social Security checks going out. Nothing like real experience to show how someone else’s actions can affect you personally. I like to remember how people remembered and reacted to the Clinton impeachment debacle and believe it will be repeated with this. I live in Darrel Issa’s district and was surprised by the number of closet Democrats that came out of the close in 2012 to openly vote for the President, just because they hated Romney so much. I’ve got my fingers and toes crossed that it will happen again in 2014 and I plan to back those crossed toes and fingers by volunteering to help local dems to get out the vote. We may go down, but if we do, I plan to fight it all the way.

      • sigrid28

        Me, too. I was looking up the process for replacing the Speaker of the House by majority vote of House members, since I’ve almost given up on the hope that, in this era of mock heroes, “Breaking Bad” style, John Boehner might step up to the plate and hit a home run: up-and-down vote on a clean CR and debt ceiling before theTea Party Republicans can try to replace him for ignoring the Hastert Rule. Boehner does not seem capable of handling even this modicum of statesmanship.

        And what did I find? I found that Boehner HIMSELF had led a movement to replace Newt Gingrich as Speaker during the last shutdown and Clinton impeachment debacles. So the incompetency of John Boehner becomes curiouser and curiouser. If he isn’t the empty suit portrayed above, what can be his motivation? When it comes to scenarios in Washington, D.C., I look for choreography before serendipity every time.

        • omgamike

          The only problem with your proposal is the replacement we could end up with…like Eric Cantor, or Paul Ryan, or someone else equally nauseous. There’s some truth to ‘better the devil you know than the devil you don’t — or, more pointedly — ‘than the devil you know is worse’.

          • sigrid28

            I thought that way for awhile. Now I think, the new Speaker will be much weaker than Boehner and beholden to many more colleagues–these strings all let the air out of a new guy. If he, too, is a disaster, welcome 2014 election. If he is instead a success, the country gives its thanks.

            Once one loser goes down as Speaker, who says a second cannot bite the dust, until the Republicans in Congress decide to get something done besides watching their Tea Party colleagues run around in circles shouting talking points.

          • Dominick Vila

            Unfortunately, those who oppose everything President Obama has done feel emboldened by the support they enjoy from their radical opponents. I am convinced the decision to shutdown the government if Democrats don’t agree to defund the Affordable Care Act has more to do with the need to please constituents – and the fear of retaliation if they don’t – than ideology or genuine concerns over its effectiveness.
            I have Republican relatives who unabashedly identify themselves as Tea Party supporters and who don’t hesitate to say that the only media personality they respect and trust is Rush Limbaugh! I live in a red district, where the lawns of most of my neighbors proudly posted Romney signs, with an empty chair next to them. There is no such a thing as willingness to compromise or civil dialogue when you talk to them about politics. For them, compromise is synonymous to capitulation.
            They explain the outcome of the last election by claiming that Democrats cheated, that people voted for Obama because they expect handouts from him, or that Democrats are simply too dumb to understand the reality of our circumstances.
            Yes, ACA is worth fighting for, regardless of whether some facets of that program need to be changed in the future, but fighting for what we know is right does not mean we should not listen to the opinion of others, regardless of how counter productive or illogical their views may be.
            Boehner and company put themselves in a box from which they cannot extricate themselves without losing credibility from their constituents. The only way progress will be made if we give them something to help them save face. That something may be the medical device tax. As ridiculous as it may seem – a 2.3% excise tax on manufacturers and/or importers of medical devices is insignificant in the scheme of things – claiming a minor victory may be enough to persuade many Republicans to do what they know is right, but are afraid to admit for fear of retaliation. Their current stand is not influenced by ideology, it is influenced by the knowledge that unless they deliver what their constituents expect, their political careers are finished. The same goes for Boehner’s Speakership.

          • sigrid28

            You rightly say, “The only way progress will be made if we give them something to help them save face.” Along with the president, I agree that the Republicans will have to get something via negotiation, and they will–but not until they truly negotiate. I think we on the left and moderates alike will do a service to the nation by refusing to reward Republicans in the House for forcing a government shutdown or defaulting on the debt.

            Capitulating to House Republicans on the medical device tax will not satisfy their constituents, Dominick, because the demands of their constituents are not reasonable–I wish they were. They want all or nothing, and may abandon any and all candidates who do not deliver that. Don’t you think Republicans in the House know by now that their constituents will never be satisfied, no matter what they do, now that Obama has been re-elected?

            So let’s look at how we control behaviors when an individual is not in complete control. Take, for example, an autistic individual perseverating, let’s say, head-banging. We do not stand and watch in horror as an autistic person gives himself or herself a concussion or hurts anyone else. First, QUICKLY, we look for a helmet or get them to a padded surface–without equivocating. Only then are we in a position to redirect: hand them a favorite object or play their favorite music or lead them outside for a breath of fresh air.

            Following this analogy, we have to first see that perseverating Tea Party Republicans DO NO HARM–to our nation and, therefore, even to themselves. That would mean getting past the government shutdown and raising the debt ceiling SOMEHOW–at this point, whether they like it or not. Only then will it be safe to redirect them, to listen to their verbal perseverations, while offering them a good redirect, like revision of the medical device tax. I think nothing will satisfy Tea Party Republicans as a suitable redirect, but at lease they will have stopped head-banging, for the time being.

          • Dominick Vila

            This is exactly what I was thinking when I was reading Sigrid’s well thought out post. I can’t stand the sight of Boehner, mostly because I believe he is an idiot being manipulated by others and incapable to assert his authority over his own caucus, but I think he will look like a benign Speaker if he is replaced by the likes of Cantor or Ryan. The difference between them is that Cantor is one of the most intelligent – and ambitious – members of the House, and Boehner is the epitome of ineptitude, greed, and lack of courage.

          • sigrid28

            I thought that way for awhile, too. But we have all been biding our time over the Hastert Rule, Boehner’s failure as Speaker of the House, and the rules of the Senate that allow Republicans to hijack legislation there. At some point, Democrats may have to see these challenges as transcending current politics. Perhaps, we must stop playing defense and take a more assertive role in protecting democratic principles. This will inevitably involve taking risks, like getting rid of the silent filibuster in the Senate and maybe replacing Boehner as Speaker of the House. Our legislatures have become so petrified to move that we don’t give ourselves enough credit for coming out winners if we change up the game and have to roll with the punches. Now that dire circumstances are almost inevitable, what have we got to lose in taking some risks to disable these anarchists trying to disable American government?

          • Elisabeth Gordon

            ..and Ryan might as well be at Disneyworld playing Goofy….he’s a dead-ringer…

        • charleo1

          Very interesting info on Boehner. And calling out the GOP at
          choreography, which they do incessantly in full view of their
          completely bamboozled base. Is a point not talked about
          nearly enough. As I have no doubt, the entire 2012 GOP Presidential nominating process, was pure political theater. Designed to have all the trappings of a plucky, tough contest.
          With the star Mitt Romney, eventually arising as the only
          logical candidate to beat Obama. The trouble started when
          the base, unaware it was all pre-planned. Began applauding
          for all the wrong people. And laughing at all the wrong lines.
          Meanwhile, back at the ranch. The drama, and political
          maneuvering of John Boehner, and Eric Cantor, his first in
          charge. Reveals the inner workings of the GOP to be carbon
          copies of other military, or strongman regimes. Where there
          is really no formal, or certain mechanisms to ascend to power. So, we can watch as Cantor has continued to lay traps for his King. While feigning absolute loyalty. A miniature Banana Republic scenario, within the Congress of the U.S.

          • nana4gj

            Excellent thinking, writing, and I would have to agree w/ you.

            In this “Tragedy of Errors”, no one, nothing, is sacred. Not even their own Mothers. Everything and everyone is a tool and it’s all up for sale to the highest bidder, the one who can get the most of what they think they need, and it’s a symbiotic dynamic with the puppets as well as the ones pulling the strings.

          • charleo1

            Yes, for the GOP, it really has been this constant slog on a
            downward trajectory, since 2003. The Bush years, because
            of the 9/11 events, seen the Party catapulted to near 100%
            approval ratings, as Americans rallied around their President.
            And even stanch rivals, and sworn enemies such as Iran,
            offered their condolences via letters to President Bush.
            Iran going so far as to offer logistical access to aid in contemplated action aganist the Al Qaeda training camps in Afghanistan. A letter by the way, the Bush Administration
            ignored without reply. However this wellspring of world
            support for the U.S., and the notion that here in this tragedy
            was the opportunity to unite the civilized nations of the world
            against the scourge of international terrorism. Especially the
            kind spread by the fanatical, and militant Islamists.
            But this golden opportunity was squandered, just as surely
            as everything else. The lives, and treasure, and the near unprecedented international goodwill. Dissolved away in
            the buildup to, and subsequent invasion of Iraq. And the theater really never ceased from there. The cherry picked
            intelligence, the constant spin, and political covering up
            for a Republican President’s hubris, and reckless decision
            to take his Country to war on false pretenses. I believe the
            decision of the Republican Party leaders to pull up the stakes
            of their platform, and move to the extreme right, had as much
            to do with the fear that George Bush had completely done
            them all in. As the election of a Black Democrat as President.
            Of course the problem of this kind of getting out of town.
            The decision that we’ve kinda outstayed our welcome here
            in the center right. That we’ll move out west there, and we’ll
            find supporters in the hinterlands. And convince the rest
            to move out here with us, in due time. I think the verdict is
            still out. But in the end, I just can’t see thoughtful, pragmatic
            traditional Conservatives, mixing in with these intellectually
            lightweight, extremists. Well, just some rambling thoughts.
            I would be interested in your thoughts. Is the GOP really
            going down? Or, are we doomed to have to put up with this
            constant mess until we’re all dead?

          • nana4gj

            I think it is slowly going down. I think the GOP will splinter, if not formally, informally, internally. Collectively, they believe they depend upon the Tea Party constituency and those like Koch Bros to get them elected in their Districts. They are incapable, however, of securing national elections or of ever taking the White House in their current state.

            Once they get to their seats in Congress, we will see more of what we are seeing now. Some of them may think it is not in their best interests to just follow along with this crowd for the sake of winning that seat. They may find the courage to stand up to the pressure to conform and be found attractive by Independents or even some moderate Democrats and become, in the end, the old-fashioned Republican we used to have. In that way, they will not have to rely upon the Tea Party for their primaries, because others will be voting for them.

            If only they would speak up now, loud and clear. I had looked for that in those ridiculous primary debates and in that more ridiculous presidential campaign, but not for long, because it became obvious what that dynamic duo was.

            It’s going to take some boldness to capture the credibility and the trust. As long as there are passive followers in that House of Rep who will not exert their influence, I trust none of them. None of them refute the talking points on any issue that are so dumb most of the time and so full of lies all of the time. I guess they do not realize that when you lie down with fleas, they are all over you, or however that saying goes.

          • charleo1

            Very good. I agree. Well, they ought to speak up. The T-Party
            is just going down the line of the old guard, painting targets
            on their backs anyway. I think it was Corker, the Senator from
            TN. that said he’d received a 95% grade for being a, “good
            conservative.” But he had committed the cardinal sin. He
            worked on a very conservative compromise on gun legislation with West Virginia’s Joe Manchin. As conservative a Democrat
            as they come. To help out some of his Republican Senators
            in very blue districts in CO. So the T-Party forbids all association
            with the enemy!

        • nana4gj

          Maybe it’s financial gain. Maybe he is on a “retainer” by unseen powerfully financial groups to allow those in his caucas who are dependent upon the financial support of the same actors to help them get elected, reelected, etc.

          Boehner strikes me as someone who could easily be purchased. Everytime he states a position, it is so lame, so unbelievable, sometimes contradicting a previous one, sometimes even repeating the same as “the other side”.

          • sigrid28

            I’ve floated this scenario as well, on the assumption that the super rich who are convinced they deserve their entitlement would happily add Boehner’s loyalty to one of their shopping lists–Cantor, too, for that matter. We know Ryan is in the Koch brothers’ pocket.

            The problem is, that the shutdown and especially a failure to raise the debt ceiling puts a dent in even the fortunes of very wealthy individuals and the biggest corporations. All of the things rich people love–the stock market, bank ownership, making Trump-size loans for HUGE international projects–are impinged by the failure to raise the debt ceiling.

            So you have to wonder if Boehner and his caucus are going rogue to please their base before giving in to do the bidding of their “owners.” This is the most hopeful explanation I can come up with today, when things look totally out of control.

          • nana4gj

            So, so good, your thought process and content here. See charleo1’s comment, below.

            ….Unless they are covertly also double-crossing each other, in which case, one or the other will be marked for the “hit”, as in any good underworld syndicate “family”.

    • Lynnette Gentry

      Worst Speaker Ever Along With The Worse Congress In The History Of Congress!! Their Nothing But A Bunch Of Money Grubbing Low Life Terrorists And Traitors!!! :-(

  • Michael Kollmorgen

    I just don’t understand how Boner could amass as much power as he has.

    Just imagine, a rinky-dink state like Ohio, a no-nothing lame-ass state producing a powerful leader(?) like Boner? If this is what politics actually produces, we fully deserve to get what we made.

    • Bill Boltz

      I don’t want to think ill of the whole state of Ohio just because it produced this moron. I don’t know who Charles Manson’s parents were, but I’m sure they weren’t too proud of him. I’m with you, Michael on not understanding how Boner could have come to power except that he bull-shitted his way to the top.

      • Michael Kollmorgen

        I know Ohio a little too well. I’ve lived here most of my life, except for escape attempts to Arizona, Florida and California back in the mid 70s.

        The politics of the state is normally conservative except in the major cities. And, it shows with declining education, economy tanking since we lost most of our manufacturing jobs, loss of tax revenue. The list is pretty much endless here.

        The only people actually left in the state is either the very ill, senior citizens who simply can’t move, or the poor. Mostly everyone else that gets a degree usually leaves the state for better pastures.

        This what makes me wonder how Boner ever got elected other than the fact his district is very conservative. That don’t say a lot though. Overall, the state itself doesn’t show much incentive to improve its lot either.

        Probably the only reason Boner got as high in politics as he has was because I suppose at one time the GOP saw him as a possible presidential candidate and has a certain amount of TV Appeal. Getting down to the bottom line, he couldn’t beat his way out of a wet paper bag without a lot of help from the GOP. I think his EGO is starting to fade, hopefully.

        And, to beat all hell, the weather sucks in Ohio. If you want the weather to change, just wait a little while – it will. The most you can plan ahead to do anything is if your lucky, maybe 3 days in advance. Even then, you’re playing with loaded Dice.

        No my friend, Ohio is not a good state and certainly not any good to live in. The ONLY reason I live here is because of former family issues, which kept dragging me back from said former mentioned states.

        • Bill Boltz

          Wow…I had no idea….you made me laugh though…I hope that’s ok. You need a sense of humour to survive….I know this…I live in Illinois where almost every former Governor is doing or has done time in federal prison for one stupid selfish act or another. Maybe someone will find some dirt on asshole Boehner before too long. But don’t stop with him…..keep your chin-up Michael. You’ll always have a friend in Illinois.

        • sigrid28

          You should write a longer piece on this state and your experience of it. This is a good start.

    • Germansmith

      Ohio is a great state that produced much of the industrial and economic might that gave us the edge in WWII
      The globalization of economy has affected Ohio far more than other left leaning states like Mass and New York (which depends in financial services now in their golden period), so it is natural that they tend to be conservative by nature and look back at the times America was great and respected.

      • Michael Kollmorgen

        Yes, you are right, Ohio did produce much of the military might we needed during WW2.

        In fact, I was born in 1949 not too far from the IX Center, formally known as the Tank Plant that produced the Sherman Tank during WW2. My mother worked for GE producing Bomb Sights during WW2.

        During WW2, the government needed a new sight to build bombs and ammunition. They choose Revenna Ohio for that purpose. And, it wasn’t for convince either. They choose that site only because that area of the country has the most cloudy days out of the year than anywhere else in the country.

        However, since the mid 70s, this state has gone right down the tubes. Yes, the recession and the Gas Crisis beginning in the mid 70s has affected Ohio more than any other state it seems. I can’t blame the residents entirely for the state’s demise.

        However, I think the unions had a part to play in it with over-inflated wages and over-inflated retirement packages, which are still being paid out today in some areas of the economy.

        I more than anything else blame the state government itself primarily due to their backward thinking stances on most things such as innovative business development programs. This state is not known for anything high tech, certainly nothing coming close to Silicon Valley Caliber. Then too, look who votes them into office……….

        Of course, this is not a recent development. Over a 100 years ago, the state could have turned the entire Lake Erie Waterfront into the country’s biggest tourist attraction which never happened due to greedy landowners, political infighting and profiteering construction contractors. It, at one time, was proposed. But, if flopped right on its behind.

        So goes the state of Ohio…………………………..

        • Germansmith

          And the rest of the rustbelt as well.
          Cheers for the Great State of Ohio. People forget your great deeds.
          Lefties look at California, Hollywood’s plastic and Silicon Valley as their new Mecca, Righties look at Texas, rugged individualism and oil as their fine example. When those two great States where not much more than gold prospectors and cowboys, the rustbelt provided the power, the oil and the industrial might that made America Great.

          • Michael Kollmorgen

            Silicon Valley “used” to be a leader in High Tec. But, not anymore. Do you know who holds the record for the biggest and fastest Super Computer? China.

            As far as Plastic goes, the US is far behind in that field as well. Years ago, maybe 15 years ago now, I used to work for a company that made 5-axis CNC Routing Machines that was primarily for the Plastic and Wood Industry. I was their head machinist.

            That industry, the Plastic Industry, went out the country to parts of Asia and Mexico. With the industry so went the machinery building end and our company went bust as well as a large portion of companies catering to that industry. Go to any Twinsburg Industrial Park as well as parts of Akron and Cleveland. You’ll see building after building, empty. Many still empty to this day that went bust investing in this machinery, only to find out their investments went right down the drain once the industry went overseas.

            Yes, it seems to be recovering, but its very agonizingly slow.

            Yes, Texas is conservative. But, that might not hold much water. Rumor has it, there is a slim chance it may turn blue with the next round of elections and in the not too distant future.

            IF you knew the history of how places like Cleveland got to be great, as far as industrially speaking goes, you might think differently about greatness. Look up the term (might be hard to find) “Chicken Box Express”. And, this does not only apply to Cleveland, but every single major industrial center in the north.

            Have a nice evening:)

  • disqus_ivSI3ByGmh

    Like I keep saying, as a Speaker of the House, John Boehner makes a great bartender.

    • Germansmith

      I like my bartenders with bigger breasts. And if you want to call me a pig….is OK

      • Eleanore Whitaker

        Bartenders? Or arm candy servant girls offering up their self-respect to you on a silver platter?

        • Germansmith

          OOOHHH. A feminist objecting to the nature of men?
          Sorry. I forgot that in the progressive book, women are NOT supposed to be attractive and is below their dignity to use their natural endowments to better themselves.
          I bet you also object to beauty pageants and cheerleading and any other activity where a woman that does not look like Eleanor Roosevelt can actually make something of themselves with what nature gave them.
          And by the way, these so called “candy servant girls” are honest hard working people trying to make a living in despite of people like you serving judgment and looking down on them and they probably have far more self respect to spare some for you.
          Nothing of what they are doing are affecting YOU in any way.
          Lets try a live and let live approach and do not try to modified society and nature to fit your narrow views.

          • MVH1

            Do you walk around going “oooh” all day?

          • Eleanore Whitaker

            Let me avail you of something you men deny to your deaths….You men ALL stick together to protect your so-called “manhood.” The minute you hear women’s voices, you go deaf. It’s only the SIGHT of women that make your testosterone levels go wild.

            These candy servant girls are not honest, hardworking people trying to make a living. You want to tell that to women who refuse to compromise their self-respect to men with out of control testosterone? You only hire women for bartending for one reason you won’t, as a man who feasts at the table of grand denial, admit the only reason you hire these girls are their jiggly asses and implanted bazongas.

            So..How about we women start exploiting men like you do women? We’ll only hire hanging men with pretty faces, tight butt ends and washboard abs…Oh gee…Guess that leaves you drooling clowns of the Great White Angry Middle Aged Fat Gut Generation of males out in left field.

            Show me a man who isn’t a “masculinist” and he’d have to be the Pope. Sorry for you pallie but I’ve been around enough men with drool on the chins to know which ones have hummingbird brains and mouths as big as long horn asses.

        • omgamike

          As a fellow pig, that would work, too! (sarcasm, lol)

    • Bill Boltz

      He makes a better speed-bump!

  • Germansmith

    I enjoy Carl’s musing about the inept leader of House Republicans.
    I can not wait until he takes on the equally inept and absurd Pelosi, Reid and Obama.
    I would definitely lose respect for him if he limits his musings to just right wing ineptitude.
    Real humorist do not take sides…because if you just take a side, that makes you a political hack, not a humorist.

    • MVH1

      It would be a lot more fun for you if he took on your ineptitude in grasping the issues.

      • Germansmith

        OOOOOHHHH…Partisan. So sorry I offended your “fearless leaders”

        • MVH1

          You just continue to prove what we think about you is correct. You might want to consider that before you open that vault that contains a pea-sized brain for you.

          • Germansmith

            Yes, like that is likely to make me loose any sleep, the opinion of a narrow minded, brain washed person with a handle that sounds like a virus or a bad music TV station.
            Anybody can utter insults and most idiots can even do it better than you. Where are your originals thoughts?
            Pleaseeee. Go back to pray to the Big Brother and this is my last reply to you….I do not argue with defective people.

          • MVH1

            And you are illiterate.

          • Germansmith

            and you are a virus that comes from chickens
            Good Day Sir…my time is too valuable to spend answering your insults

          • omgamike

            No, you agree with the opinions of more defective people, like yourself. By the way, I am always open to a good, positive argument… backed up by links to reliable sources of facts. Facts now, not spin. And nothing that has been uttered by right wing radio show hosts.

          • Germansmith

            If you read my posts, I give plenty of facts
            Of course , not the ones you like or would accept.
            Your views fit into a neat little package?
            Is either your view and opinion or you are “sponsoring the view of devil influence right wing radio hosts”?….which by the way, I do not listen to.
            How do that makes you anything more than a close minded left partisan?

    • CrankyToo

      Ok. Now you’re a pig. And a dumb one at that.

      • Germansmith

        Oink Oink…..Rather be a pig than an ass

        • CrankyToo

          Hey Squire, this is America. You’re free to be either.

        • omgamike

          Well, now you have the honor of knowing that you’re both.

    • omgamike

      How much time do you have to read? If you have quite a bit, I would be happy to type up a few pages extolling all the good things that the aforementioned democratic trio have done, to the benefit of our country. The real ineptitude lies in those who refuse to acknowledge all the actual facts that are out there on the net, just waiting for someone like you to grab at them.

    • JSquercia

      Sorry friend say what you will about Pelosi but she could count votes and I believe she never had a bill defeated especially not by her own Party.
      Boehner can NOT control his own caucus and that has made it a waste of time to deal with him .They had an agreement on the so called Grand Bargain but boehner could not deliver the votes .Once he came back with the deal the Tea Party wouldn’t go for it

  • Mary Ann Hoogeveen

    Thank You this story has made my day!

  • Budjob

    Mike,I reside in the state of Ohio and,it is a very weird state to live in as far as politics is concerned.Once you get to a point below the Columbus,Ohio area it’s like living in one of the southern states,republican all the way.As evidence of that, take a look at our present Governor,John KaSICK. This man was one of the architechs of the 1995 government shutdown.By the way,the infamous Paul Ryan was an aid to him when kaSICK was a congressman.That in itself speaks volumes!! You are correct with your assessment of Ohio being a rinky-dink lame ass state!!Thank You!!!!

    • HelenRainier

      Oh, so that’s where Ryan learned everything he doesn’t know? I’m originally from Wisconsin and Ryan, along with Walker, are both first-class jerks.

    • midway54

      The southern part of Ohio as you described it is also true of Illinois. Indiana especially has become a huge peninsular extension of Dupedom South into the midwest, complete with the proud tradition of rampant political ignorance that inspires them to cheer the fatcats and vote their stooges into the Congress. A good example is Senator Coates, who some years ago was in the Senate and mercifully left it. Now, he is back with all his goofiness at work.One is caused to wonder if the clown Burton will at some point return to the House.

  • FT66

    Come on folks, its time to stand up and protect the interest of the country and the entire world. One person can’t let the whole world see the economy is dismantled again and back as it was in 2008. Boehner’s behaviour is quite detrimental to everyone who likes to see the economy flourish. It is better to let Boehner go and be paid without working than to let the economy perish. It is not too late. We have to stand up to this man. Let us all, we the people, be on record that we kicked out this man who wants all of us to suffer.

  • Budjob

    This man??? is nothing more than a drunken coward.I just wondering how many other drunken bastards in Ohio voted for this half wit A lot of the voting populace in Ohio continually vote against their own best interests.And,John Bonehead is evidence of that!

  • hilandar1000

    You know, as much as I hate this thought, I would like some other feedback on it. The fourteenth amendment could be used for Obama to pay the national obligations. However, the GOP would, of course start impeachment proceedings immediately. If, by some chance, the GOP got a favorable ruling on the impeachment, Biden would be president, and he would either have to cave to their demands or, of course risk impeachment too, which, of course would mean that Boehner would be president, with Cantor taking over as speaker. Please tell me this could not happen.

    • johninPCFL

      Of course the GOP could impeach the president. But like before, the trial is in the Senate. Like before, saner heads would prevail.

      • hilandar1000

        Thanks, John. I couldn’t remember what the exact order of procedure was for impeachment proceedings.

        • Germansmith

          By following this line of reasoning, my guess is that none of you hold much respect for the Constitution as long as your side gets away with what you want?. You guys/gals understand the meaning of what a “banana republic” is?
          The framers of the Constitution expected this kind of political jams….what they did not expect was our inexorable path to Idiocracy. (by the way, funny movie but now, really scary)
          Our Constitution was a beautiful example of how much can be achieved by negotiating. Our political history is full of examples of political enemies that were able to sit down and hash a deal for the good of the country….but it only works if they all get off their high horse and sit down to work.
          If lawyers are going to run our country, I would like to see contract lawyers instead of law professors or ex-prosecutors being in politics. At least contract lawyers are used to getting the deal done while protecting their clients.

          • hilandar1000

            Germansmith, I’m not quite sure what you are referring to as our “not holding much respect for the Constitution as long as your side gets away with what you want”. It seems like you missed the whole gist of our conversation. I haven’t read all of the comments that have been posted by others, but since you addressed your reply to what I had written, I’m assuming that you were referring to the conversation between john, mike, and myself. I cannot see in any of our words anything that shows lack of respect for the constitution — or for the art and advantages of negotiation either for that matter. We were, in fact discussing the wording of the 14th amendment to the constitution which says that, “The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, shall not be questioned.” From this statement, it would appear that there should be no question about the debts being paid when they are due. Since all congressmen as well as the president and vice-president have to swear to uphold the constitution, it would seem it is the duty to all of them to assure that payment is made, “without question”. Does it say anything about negotiation on which bills should be paid and which should not be paid? If it does, I sure can’t find it. So I find no constitutional requirement for negotiating when the bill is due. Yes, negotiation is what we expect when passing legislation, but not about paying the bills that are due. The time for negotiation is long past by the time the bills are due. Those obligations have already been debated, negotiated, and voted on as valid expenditures that are to be paid when due. I certainly would be happy to discuss negotiation and its value with you, but that is not what these postings were about. We were discussing the fact that the 14th amendment is unclear as to which person or persons should take the next step of actually seeing to it that those obligations are paid and whether or not, according to the 14th amendment to the constitution, the president would be doing his duty of upholding the constitution by authorizing that such payment be made at this time, since a minority in the House of Representatives doesn’t seem to consider that to be within their job description.

          • Jominith

            “…my guess is that none of you hold much respect for the Constitution as
            long as your side gets away with what you want?. You guys/gals
            understand the meaning of what a “banana republic” is?” It looks to me that you are describing the Republicans attitude in this statement. What you want to do is what you repeatedly failed to do “constitutionally, that is undo a constitutional law by extortion. Where is that in the constitution?

            For a more elegant reply to your idiotic post read hilandar1000’s reply below.

    • Eleanore Whitaker

      Demands? In a democracy? Honey child don’t you have your Confederacy mixed up with a democracy of the people, FOR the people, BY the people? Impeach the president for what? For refusing to hold Americans hostage? For refusing to kiss Rich ASS destroying our democracy? Don’t hold your breath on that impeachment. Do that and sweetie pie …your red state Ahole have the Civil War they’ve been spoiling for. Won’t bother us in the least if a bunch of rabble rousing hicks end up in the slammer for treason. Hang ‘em high from the Capital if that’s what they want.

      • hilandar1000

        Now, wait a minute, Eleanor. Are you sure you are replying to the right person? “Demands?” — I didn’t demand anything — or even mention the word. And I certainly wasn’t implying in any way that the GOP would have any legitimate grounds for impeaching the president. But judging from the way they have behaved in the past — blaming him for anything they could possibly come up with, I assumed that they would certainly try impeachment if he does authorize payment of our debts because the constitution is not crystal clear on that issue — as to who, specifically, could authorize such payment, and I do feel the president would be justified in authorizing payment because the president swore to uphold the constitution, and the constitution is specific in saying that our debts MUST be paid. After all, they have been calling for impeachment for some time now — for absolutely no reason at all. I am certainly not condoning any of the actions or rhetoric of the tea-party crazies and do regard them as “the terrorists within”. So I’m not sure we’re on the same page if you think otherwise, as I am a very strong supporter of our President and his policies.

    • omgamike

      Technically, maybe. But would never happen, even though I’m sure that Republicans are having damp dreams over the possibility. The 14th Amendment gig would, IMO, first have to go to the Supremes for a ruling on it, which would take time. And even if the House voted the requisite Articles of Impeachment, the trial would occur in the Senate, which is controlled by the Democrats — which would never pass it, even with the help of the Republican Chief Justice.

      • omgamike

        Plus, I believe the President has another option. He could order the Secretary of the Treasury to mint a couple of trillion dollar coins and deposit them.

      • hilandar1000

        Thanks, Mike, that makes me feel a bit better. I didn’t realize it had to go through the Supreme Court first. It didn’t seem like it took that long to get to the Impeachment proceedings with Clinton, but couldn’t remember exactly how long it was. I am terrified at the thought of having another Republican as president.

        • omgamike

          Well, it wouldn’t do the repubs any good to file impeachment proceedings, saying that what the President did was unconstitutional — until and unless they had ruling from the supreme’s backing them up. And I don’t think you’ll have to worry too terribly much about having a republican president any time soon. If anything, their policies and dialogue have pushed the Latinos even further into democratic hands than they were before. Of course, it all depends on who the democrats nominate. Everything I have seen, to date, strongly suggests it will be Hillary. But who knows.

          • hilandar1000

            Yes, it certainly doesn’t seem possible that they could win another election, but we’ve seen how quickly the tides can turn in politics, and how good the GOP is at carrying out fraudulent schemes at strategic times, to turn those tides. I’m still trying to figure out how in the world George W. was able to be elected to a first term in office, much less to an astonishing win for a second term. I grew up in an area infested with John Birchers — in a northern state, and, for a number of years, thought they were long gone, when suddenly they emerged as the tea party, and gained such illogical power — even though still a very small minority, and have been so blatant about their long term plan of turning our government into a corporate-controlled state. Moreover, I’m totally blown away by how many well-educated 30 – 50 year-olds buy into their paranoid and self-serving philosophies. I guess we all just have to stay on our toes and keep repeating the facts to counter their barrage of lies.

          • omgamike

            W didn’t win his first term, he stole it — or, rather the Supreme Court stole it for him. For the first time in U.S. history the Supreme Court put itself in the middle of a Presidential election. On a 5-4, conservative led majority, they stopped the counting of votes in Florida, thus handing the election to W. And the only thing that won him a 2nd term was that he was a ‘war’ time President, and the country traditionally stands behind their President during times of war.

            I lived in New Hampshire for 30 years and am well familiar with the Birchers. And they do share the same belief structures, the same ignorance and hate of the tea partiers.

            Members of the tea party are typically low information voters, who, when at home, watch Fox news, predominantly. If listening to the radio in their car, they are listening to right-wing, hate radio talk show hosts. Long-haul truckers would be one area I would expect to find them, or salespeople, who spend a lot of time on the road. Also, rural people, who have to travel a fair distance, or more, to do their shopping.

            They could be put out of business, as far as Congress goes, if moderates and liberals turned out in force next year for the 2014 mid-term elections. But, typically, turnout is a lot lower than it is during a Presidential election year. So it will take a mammoth organizing effort on a lot of people’s parts, to get everyone registered, and make sure that they get to the polls to vote on election day. Registration is also going to be more difficult due to all of the voter suppression laws that the Republican governors have managed to get passed in their respective states.

  • tax payer

    The Reporter should would like to be in his shoes, but ( sorry ) there can only be one Boehner in Congress.

    • omgamike

      Thank goodness!

  • Eleanore Whitaker

    Actually, Boner is a liar. And, there is now documented proof that in 2009, the GOP held a meeting that was the planning committee for destroying this president. Still think they are not guilty of treason? Boney himself stated in yesterday’s news conference that he is doing “battle” with the president.

    Who the hell does this suckup twerp of the Tea Party think he is? Is Obama the president or Boney? Where the hell does he get off making “demands” and then lying about how many times the Dems have tried to negotiate the debt ceiling. The Dems, as a matter of public record, offered a debt ceiling figure 3 times now since 2010…ALL of which were soundly rejected by the Bulls of the GOP tyranny.

    Boney and his GOP bull tyrants are dangerously close now to treason. One of their own admitted that they’ve held 3 meetings one of which was to shut down the government to “get even with the president.” What the hell do you call that if not treason?

  • Eleanore Whitaker

    Boehner is really a stupid man. He thinks if he walks like a president, talks like a president and acts like HE’S president, well then what follows suit is that HE IS?

    When President Obama was elected 2 times? Since when is the Speaker of the House more powerful than the President? Since when does the Speaker of the House order the president around like a plantation slave? When a bunch of rich ass bigots think their bowel movements are 14K gold…and their hate is so powerful it will crush the rest of us…Before or after we kick asses and take names?

    • omgamike

      Would we be accused of discrimination or racism to say that America never elects an ‘orange’ man to be President? Just curious.

      • Michael Kollmorgen

        Welp, I’ve never seen a Orange-Colored person. But, I’m also pretty sure if we ever do, some of us will find something about it that will cause them to be just as bigoted against them as they are against black, gay, immigrant people.

        Just another group of people to play off our troubles on as scapegoats.

  • Eleanore Whitaker

    Boehner hasn’t amassed ANY power that isn’t coming from the Koch billionaires bank account. Right now as we are posting McConnell is going before the Supreme Court to demand no restrictions on ALL campaign funding be part of Free Speech. Where the hell are the brains of the SC justices? You speak with your vocal chords not your money. When money is perceived to have a voice…No election will ever belong to the democracy of the people, FOR the people, BY the people.

    That Citizens United approval by the SC opened the door to an end to the power of individual voters. Some red state AL ahole nearly exceeded the legal limits for campaign donations after donating over $163,000…Now this ahole is demanding “Free speech rights” to donate as much as he pleases. To a campaign?

  • JerseyBorn54

    And to what Dominick wrote and I am 200% in agree with him growing up in the 60s I have seen Speaker of the house come and go and with the accept ion of Dennis Hastert,there is no question that John Wimpy Boehner,is the worst speaker of the house in U.S.history and his legacy will not be a good one in modern U.S.history once he rides off into the sunset which I hope is after the 2014 elections where there is not doubt after all of this the Democrats will control the House,Senate & White House.You would have to be a major idiot and there are a lot of you out there that would vote a Tea Party scum into office after all the bull with the horse bull Texas-Canadian ted Cruz,has caused.He has allowed the Tea Party to tell him what to do as well as the GOP,as a whole and this is the scum they voted for to be the Speaker Again this year.What did they see he had no coconuts and wore panties under his pants is that it.I am so sick of them trying to blame Obama and the Democrats for this they did not cause this.mess at Ted Cruz house and knock on his door and snatch him out of his house because him trying to be another idiot Sarah Palin,has caused all the pain that is going on in this country and why?? For something that is the law of the land validated by the United States Supreme Court,and that is Obama care,so what was the sense of causing all the pain and anger and maybe default which I hope does not happen,as well as held up my hearing for increase Veteran benefits.
    Oh! yeah the GOP will loose the House in doers not matter that more democrats are running more in this red state scenario,the hand writing is already on the wall,and I am one that is going to make sure that happens,and if it does not which I doubt that makes sure we get a Speaker of the House,who has coconuts and does not wear his wife’s panties for certain.And one thing I am sick of seeing or hearing is this red state,blue state crape the last time I checked this was one damn country it was the media that started this red and blue state as is with the media that causes a lot of things in this country to come about instead of being non-bias they are bias especially those scums at FIX-NEWS.

  • Carol Dijkhuyzen

    This lousy janitor is beyond an empty suit for crying out loud..I can’t wait to hammer him this mid-term.They are destroying America’s economy…If Boehner&Co. have some kind of compassion for their country they will end these extremism..These were the same people in 2008,that got us into trouble in the first place(remember?).God bless America the beautiful…

    • charleo1

      Nicely said!

  • db1db2d

    Hiaasen evidently missed the part where Boehner had 3 shots of booze at lunch because the effects of his screwdriver breakfast had already worn off…

  • Jominith

    The Senate compromised and passed the “clean” CR with the republican spending levels. Mr. Speaker ,”this isn’t a damn game” – PUT IT UP FOR A VOTE

  • Budjob

    The American Taliban,AKA known as the T-bagger RACIST NUT JOBS!!!!

  • Budjob

    Hey Bonehead,how does it feel to be spokesman for the RACIST T-Bags???

  • ridemybroom

    Boner is an idiot…not even his own mother believes in him…. she said its time for him to step down…what a despicable piece of human trash !

  • Jose Trevino Sr.

    RACCOON SYNDROME: Speaker Boehner and his “Jihadists” are behaving like
    a lynch mob. “GET THE ROPE!”

    Like Raccoons, they cannot see any further than the rings around their eyes!

  • Jose Trevino Sr.

    Two WARS (Irag/Afghan)on credit and supplemental spending!

    This does not include the Bush Recession and Pork Barrel Spending!

    Yahoo Search:

    www. General Wesley Clark tells the truth.Com http://www.General Clark (US 4 star
    General) US will attack 7

    Policy Coup In The Bush Administration (GOP). They planned to attack
    7 countries in 5 years. How were they planning to pay for the five other wars
    if we cannot even pay for Irag and Afghan?

    Research and draw your own conclusions.

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