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Tuesday, September 27, 2016

Bill killed.

Nominating Barack Obama for a second term, the former president brought to bear the full weight of his political experience and forensic skill Wednesday night, on behalf of a man who was once his adversary. Rewritten up until the final hour before he took the podium, this was among his finest campaign speeches, even surpassing the address he delivered at the last Democratic convention in 2008. Clinton presented an exhaustive argument for Obama (and against the Republicans) with four key elements:

A lesson in presidential economics delivered in professorial style, acknowledging complexity while at the same time presenting issues in an understandable and even simple style. There has been no political leader since FDR with Clinton’s capacity to perform this rhetorical magic, and there is none today who can match him. He possesses a singular authority to discuss employment, spending, and debt, having proved his GOP opponents wrong so decisively in the past that they now attempt to cite him as a model.

Calling him out that way —  as both Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan have done in recent weeks — was a woeful mistake. He repaid the cynical compliment by “scoring” them and their party on budgetary arithmetic and job creation, an exercise from which they did not emerge unscathed.

Republicans have ruled the country for more presidential terms than Democrats over the past 53 years, noted Clinton, but they have overseen the creation of only 24 million jobs, compared with 42 million credited to Democrats.  He extended that theme into the present campaign, praising Obama for 250,000 new jobs in the restored auto industry, and castigating Romney for his advice to bankrupt the industry, which would have created “zero” jobs (and probably caused the loss of millions). And the “country boy from Arkansas” did the sums that show why the Romney/Ryan budget plan is a hoax, doling out tax breaks to billionaires that will supposedly be offset by reforms that they will only detail “after the election.”

Second, Clinton focused on debunking the current campaign’s enormous outpouring of Republican lies, although he politely avoided that term. As the author of welfare reform and the expansion of health care for poor children, he is passionate, knowledgeable, and highly articulate on these matters. He explained “what really happened” with the welfare work requirement that Republicans have accused Obama of gutting – and how Ryan and Romney plan to rob and ruin Medicare with the same level of cuts that they falsely attribute to Obama.

  • That was no pen knife that Clinton was waving about this evening. It was a sledgehammer. Millions of dollars worth of false GOP campaign adds making flase claims regarding welfare and the raid of Medicare are put to rest. Of course Mitt will still run them, but the cat’s certainly out of the bag for all to see. Clinton can still excite an audience in person… and the folks at home. Masterful and not a moment too soon. Well done Bill.

  • bcarreiro

    WE THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN…..NEVER MIND THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN.

  • Bill Clinton’s speech last night was, in my opinion, the best of his entire political career. He was able to deliver, in that simple, concise and clear style of his, a speech that described the root causes of the socio-economic problems afflicting the USA, the progress made to date, and foreshadowed what is ahead in a way that lays the groundwork for President Obama to build upon tonight. He was awesome, and if he could run for a 3rd term I would vote for him in a nanosecond. If President Obama is re-elected in November, and I sincerely hope he is, he will owe a big thank you to former President Clinton. The speech delivered by the country boy from Arkansas, and his very presence, may very well be the turning point that has eluded the Obama campaign thus far. Elizabeth Warren and the nun on the bus were fantastic.

    • middleclasstaxpayer

      LIBERAL FOLLIES: There is NO God & NO Jerusalem. Wait, we need to win bible-belt votes. OK, we’ll “say” there is a God now, then take it back after Nov 6. Isn’t that flip-flopping? No, we’ll just say our thinking has “evolved.” What about Jerusalem? Oh boy, we really need those 78% of Jews to vote us back in. OK, Jerusalem IS the capitol of Israel (for NOW). After Nov 6 we’ll “reconsider” and go back to the way things really are (in our minds). What about the Palestinians & Iranians? No problem, we’ll just make a “secret deal” with them like we did with the Russians. Problems solved. Go Obama!

      • Perception is the tool to distortion , enjoy it

      • jcbsdriver

        I thought this article was about Bill Clinton. You may not want to admit it, but he KICKED A** and took names later. I’ve never been a big fan of his, but he absolutely nailed it last night.

      • dotutz

        Envy is a sin! If Romney/Ryan are such Christians, why would they be against the poor? In other words, “We Got ours, the heck with the rest of you!”

        • Exactly ! – their slogan should be “We’re Rich, We’re White, EFF You!”

          • Michele Obama put it correctly. You do not pass through the door of opportunity, and slam it shut behind you. That is part of the Republican problem. They are so business oriented, their philosophy, like Donald Trump, is “kill the competition.” They do not want to help those behind them. Because they view them as competition in the ” make more money” race.

      • 13observer

        The Democrats think “legitimate rape” was an issue for the Republicans….wait til the GODLESS Democratic party get more exposure as time goes on. They all think OBAMA is their God!

        • TheSkalawag929

          The fact that the extremist of the republican party want to categorize rape as in some way legitimate so that they can deny women a medical procedure is absurd and a problem facing all the women of this country.

        • 130, play like Jesus is sitting across the table from you. Look into his eyes. Now, make your statements to Jesus. Does he laugh and slap you on the back or shake his head?

          I think he would shake his head. If you are an example of Christianity, then I don’t want to be a Christian. However, I don’t think you are like Jesus at all.

        • BDD1951

          How silly!!

        • mjw1952

          You mean like Reagan is your god?

      • coliwabl

        You tea sacks are all the same with your never changing rhetoric, misinformation, and “my way or the highway” line of bs. Go troll somewhere else!

        • frharry

          Just a thought here. While I agree with your perspective, I do not agree that we can cast those who disagree with us into outer darkness. We need contrary perspectives if for no other reason than to remind us than none of us have the absolute truth no matter how certain we are of our positions.

          I find the Tea Party frightened, brittle and venomous in their fearful and unimaginative responses to the world. But, then, all of us know what it feels like to be afraid. And all of us know what it means to be wrong. Tea Pots do not speak for the middle class or the taxpayers, regardless of their presumptiveness in seeking to do so. But they do speak for themselves and I feel we need to hear them. That what they have to say does not usually prove compelling is a different manner.

          Think Galileo and the Vatican. If you are the holder of absolute truth, does shutting down those who might question it suggest confidence in your position or just the opposite?

          • TheSkalawag929

            I agree. If we do to them what they do to us then we are no better than they are.
            I believe we Democrats are bigger than that.

          • Galileo was placed under house arrest for the last years of his life by the Vaticant. Giordano Bruno was burned at the stake for similar views just 16 years earlier. Today we have a radical judge from Texas who like to the same with President Obama. What happened to all the progress we’ve supposedly made over the last 400 years to become a civilized society? The Tparty would like to take us back 400 years.
            Billy gave them a recall last night, now its time for the enlightened among us to step up to the plate and carry out his mandate in November.

      • joyscarbo

        You can’t be this delluded, can you? You’re talking secret deals? You mean like the secret deal that Reagan did to get our hostages out of Iran back in the 1980’s? Or are you talking about how both Bush,sr and Reagan gave weapons to the Nicaraguans? Or are you talking about how W’s men outed Valerie Plaim? Or how they knew there wasn’t any WMD’s in Iraq and they had no yellowcake or capability to go nucleara, so ordered the war? Which set of “untruths” are you talking about? The USA has the most respected reputation with world leaders since the Clinton era. Obama is a highly respected leader in Isreal as well. It doesn’t matter if you right wing side doesn’t want to believe it.

      • old_blu

        God is not mentioned in the Constitution either. Why do you and your kind hate the Constitution?

        Middleclass, you know he NAILED IT!

      • bobblues4ever

        Rant rant rant no one believes the lies anymore you duffus. Try creating some new history again… We’ll fact check it away like all the rest of the GOP hate and brainwashing.
        If anyonone invented saying anything to get elected it would be Mitt 101 ., probably avail. By online course now at GOP central. Just 9.99 . ( plus 4 billion handling by the ultrarich. And tax deductable….) lol. Oh thats right you guys keep everything ofshore…..

        • middleclasstaxpayer

          Great response…bet you didn’t even use HALF your WHIT to come up with it!

          • MCT, I am not sure how educated you are, but I don’t think you graduated summa cum laude from Harvard. The word is wit, not whit.

          • middleclasstaxpayer

            You’re right, it’s not half-whit….you’re a half-WIT! Thanks for correcting me.

          • Half is better than none.

      • God, basically, does not need to create a budget. Or figure out what needs and does not need to be paid. He has enough problems to deal with. Its called delegating responsibility.
        And as far as I am concerned, Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. And Jerusalem is the capital of Palestine. A mother can have two sons. Which one is born first does not matter to her.
        So throw away the guns and get out the paint buckets, if you want to make God happy. Too much of it is painted red. Yellow, gold and a few pretty blues, would be a nice change of pace.

      • Why does God have to be written down for you zelots? God should be in your heart and always with you whether you see his name in print or hear his name. You want Religion than go to Church and have your spirtual leaders pass on God’s teachings from the pulpit. I have to say considering all the hate, anger, race baiting and bigotry coming from the Republicans, I would say the religious leaders are not doing their jobs.

        “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” Republicans you can not legislate Religion, your belief may not be my belief and the Constitution protects my right to have a different belief.

        • Gym_coach

          Thank You!!

        • UTGDI

          Well said!!!

      • jebediah123

        Hey, “middleclass”—- I will ask you the question I have asked hundreds of people (without getting a sensible answer). NAME ONE PERSON, OUT OF THE BILLIONS THAT HAVE PRECEDED US ON EARTH, WHO HAS SEEN “GOD”.

        • middleclasstaxpayer

          Ask your “leader”…Obama may not have seen God, but he’s seen the light. HE is the one who directed that God be put back on your “platform,” shakey as it is!

          • CATFACE T-SHIRT

            The whole thing was clearly a tactical clusterfck but a) no one will remember it except for people who already listen to right-wing talk radio every day and b) why on earth should a policy platform mention God or Jerusalem? Would you complain that the word “God” wasn’t on your receipt when you check out at the grocery store? Can’t some things just be of this world? Ferchrissake?

          • middleclasstaxpayer

            Again, I don’t know of anyone who “complained” about the Tuesday night platform announcement (most of us expected this as “busines as usual”), but it was YOUR PARTY who decided to flip-flop and reintroduce both God & Jerusalem to your shakey platform. Why don’t you ask Obama why he did it???

          • TheSkalawag929

            Why is God and Jerusalem being or not being in the Democrats platform so important to you?

          • StanW

            It is apparently VERY important to the Democrat Leadership, who had to go AGAINST the will of the Delegates to get them back into the platform!

          • TheSkalawag929

            So it is important to you because it’s important to the Democratic Leadership?

          • StanW

            It is not important to me. The Democrat Leadership showed their true colors by taking out the references. They showed their cowardise by forcing them back in over the objections of the delegates.

            Personally, I’d rather they leave them out and not lie about their intent.

          • TheSkalawag929

            It seems as though it is important to you. Otherwise why comment?

            What you see as cowardice and use of force is the give and take in the normal exchange of ideas.

            That may look strange to you being as how you come from a party that just follows the marching orders given to them from the Party Leaders.

            Of what consequence is it to you whether or not the Democrats have God in their platform or not and what criteria do you use to determine the Democrats intent on such matters?

          • StanW

            That may look strange to you being as how you come from a party that just follows the marching orders given to them from the Party Leaders.

            Arfe you truly this clueless? That is EXACTLY what happened here. The party leadership FORCED God and Jerusalem back into the party platform over the LOUD objections of the delegates.

            And I already told you that it doesn;t matter to me. I just enjoy pointing out your blatant and abject hypocrisy on the matter!

          • TheSkalawag929

            If you want to see it as having been forced then see it that way. I don’t.

            Now you have answered my question. It matters to you because it gives you pleasure to point out what you see as flaws in the other party.

          • StanW

            I already said it did not matter to me, Skal. You can continue your lies, but all that does is show what a pathetic and partisan hack you are.

            Perhaps you should spend your time trying to figure out why it mattered so much to the Democrats to take the language out, and then force it back in over the objection of your own delegates.

          • TheSkalawag929

            Sure it matters to you for the reason that you gave. It gives you enjoyment.

            I know why the language was taken out and put back in.

            It was taken out because it was believed that it wasn’t necessary to the Democrat’s agenda.
            It was put back for fear that republicans would pounce on it being take out and try to beat the democrats over the head with it for taking it out. Either way it was a lose lose situation.

            Personally I would have done as I think republicans would have done. I would have taken it out and left it out.
            And if the republicans wanted to try to use it as a club I would have pointed out that republicans don’t get to write the Democrat’s Platform.
            Then I would simply walk away from any further discussion of the subject.

          • StanW

            So I said it doesn’t matter and you say it does. No need to read any more of your pathetic lies, Skal.

          • 1LonesomeDove1

            I told ya he’d whine you to death.

          • TheSkalawag929

            You are the one doing yourself a dis-service.

          • grammyjill

            I watched the same thing happen last week. It was a rule change that the delagates didn’t want but went through anyway.

          • StanW

            If they do this within their own party, against people who are on their side, what do you think they will do to America when the Obama Administration consider half of us his enemy!

          • westoast

            Hi Stan, that was the first thought that entered my head when I saw them ram through their change last night.
            They can’t state their agenda. They can’t appease their base in public, and they have allegiance only to themselves.
            They have no bond with us. They don’t even acknowledge that our version of America exists.

          • grammyjill

            Ok, this is what happened. The president was not there when the platform was set up. The President is a very religious man and said God was in all things he did so therefore wanted it on the platform. The delagates probably said no because 1. the RNC is trying to shove their religion down everyones throats and into everyones bedrooms and 2. there is in the constitution a separation of church and state. You can be all kinds of religious but you need to keep it out of the government. And if Obama was going to go after anyone, you’ld have to be a republican in the house or senate who have stood in the way of getting the work done. And yes they did. My favorite game show is US House of Reps. and sometimes the US Senate.

          • Have you the mental capicity to separate hate from truth?

            Ha, ha, what a dumb question.

          • old_blu

            He’s your leader too. hahaha

          • middleclasstaxpayer

            I was afraid you’d point that out. Oh well, I guess we can’t win ’em all! Enjoy your last night’s convention…it should be exciting!

      • amazonfan

        I don’t know what religion you are, but most Jews admire Obama and would rather vote for him than any Republican, none of whom actually give a damn about peace.

        Oh, and that you group the Palestinians in with the Iranians shows how ignorant you truly are!

      • Joseph Pedersen

        Anyone who votes for either candidate based on that party’s belief in God or on that party’s belief in where a foreign capital is situated is simply being unamerican.

      • oldtack

        Hey middleclasstaxpayer

        Bill Clinton called the Tparty GOP out on everyone of the distortions of truth. Do you want to discuss that ? well certainly not. Instead you start a mantra of GOD and JEWS and JERUSALEM. Now what does these three things have to do with the speech?

        If you are capable of communication I would like for you to answer a question – in a civil manner. Question: What is the difference between the Evangelical Ultra Conservative “Christians” and the Radical “Muslims”. It seems both parties are convinced that they and they alone are possessed of absolute truth concerning the Great I AM and his plan for Salvation to those that accept and believe – both of you consider anyone outside your enclave as “Godless Heathen”. And – both groups are willing to destroy this whole planet in the process. Please explain this to me since you seemed to be so well versed in GOD, Jerusalem and Jewry.

        • middleclasstaxpayer

          Gee, I think you have a point….I’ve heard rumors that Christians have carried out beheadings in the US recently. Thanks for your heads-up!

          • TheSkalawag929

            It’s people like you who have infected the Republican party that cause us to not be able to come together and solve our country’s problems.
            All you bring to the table is a “smart” mouth a bobbing head and a bad attitude.
            None of these things is conducive to solving the problems that face us.

          • StanW

            Oh, and please tell us how the Democrats want to “come together and solve our country’s problems”.

          • TheSkalawag929

            Why?
            I haven’t see that YOU are interested in coming up with any useful solutions.

          • StanW

            I’m not an elected official, which is what we are discussing. How are the Democrats trying to “come together” with Republicans, Skal?

          • TheSkalawag929

            For one how about the two and a half dollar entitlement cuts to one dollar revenue increase.
            So not being an elected official is your fall back position? That’s weak.

          • StanW

            “Fall back position” to you, staying on topic and not letting you divert the conversation TO ME.

            Democrats told Republicans that THEY caused all the problems, and they should shut up and stand back wqill Democrats fixed things. THAT is their idea of “soming together”.

          • TheSkalawag929

            I gave you an example as you asked for.
            Then I made a comment on your excuse for why you have no solutions to our country’s problems. And you accuse me of not staying on topic and diversion.

            I apologize if I’m not yet up to speed on the laws that define your alternate universe.

          • StanW

            Do not try to lie your way out of this, Skal. The conversations was about you slamming the Republicans for not reacing out to Democrats to solve the problems. That was not just random people off the streets with party affiliations, but our elected officials that actually CAN solve the problems.

            And for your opinion, I too gave you a valid example of Democrats going out of their way to reject reaching out to Republicans.

            Sorry I an not able to skip around as quickly as you are. Perhaps the voices in your help will keep you company until you can return to the topic!

          • TheSkalawag929

            First of all calm yourself.
            I didn’t lie.
            Who do your elected officials represent if not the people within their party affiliation?
            Are the people who elected them not the ones who tell their representatives what they want done or not done in their name?
            Aren’t you part of your party’s electorate?
            Being a part of that electorate isn’t it your duty to offer input for the solutions being put forward by your party?

            I didn’t see what you gave me as an example of rejection. I would describe as more of a rant than anything else.

            What does this even mean?: “Perhaps the voices in your help will keep you company until you can return to the topic!”

            I think I know what you are alluding to but I don’t want to jump to any conclusions.

          • StanW

            Interesting, my example is a rant, while yours is what, PROOF?

            Sorry, but the Democrats have rejected any and all views from the Right by claiming that they created the mess in the first place. You want Republicans to compromise their beliefs and do whatever the Democrats want. That is NOT how compromise works, Skal.

          • TheSkalawag929

            It is not true that democrats have rejected all views from the right. ObamaCare contains quite a number of republican ideas. And Cap and Trade which the Obama Administration was forced to walk away from because republican opposition was a republican idea. There have been a number of ideas that republicans have been for until President Obama was for them too. Then the republicans became against them.

            Republicans by in large were responsible for the mess that Obama inherited and they refuse to acknowledge the fact and pitch in to help clean it up.

            Your statement that: “You want Republicans to compromise their beliefs and do whatever the Democrats want.” is untrue. That is the republican way not the democrats.

          • hilandar1000

            There are many examples I could relate on this subject, which are a matter of public record — if you cared to look. One of the first examples of the democrats doing their best to work with Republican opposition was the Affordable Care Act. The democrats wanted a public option in the legislation. The final bill did NOT include the public option because it was something that no republican was willing to accept, but, otherwise, was almost identical to the plan proposed by Gingrich in the ’90’s and had no major differences to the plan enacted into law under Romney in Massachusetts. It passed and was signed into law, but now, that is the first item on the Republican agenda — to repeal the Affordable Care Act. I think we ALL lost count of the bills that supposedly had bipartisan support, which, when it came time for the vote, Republicans voted “no”. Some of those were supported, or even sponsored by Republicans, but the same Republicans who had supported the bill voted “no” when it came up for a vote. Their reasoning??? Republican legislators and their backers had decided on the day that Obama was inaugurated that they would vote “no” for any legislation that might reflect well on Obama’s record.

          • middleclasstaxpayer

            Mr comments are no dumber than yours! Have a nice day!

          • TheSkalawag929

            Why are you on this site?

          • UTGDI

            My guess is to provide an alternate viewpoint, from the pervasive slant of many posters here. Besides he/she does incite an abundance of response. Some of it constructive in bringing out and commuicating ones viewpoints on various subjects.

          • TheSkalawag929

            I think that you give the person more credit than they deserve. You are right in that they do incite a large number of responses. It’s just that the responses they cause are not all that constructive at all. However you have a valid point and I appreciate it.

          • Do you really believe that you are no worse than the other guy is a serious argument? Great logic you’ve got there.

          • tobewan

            Really! Skalawag, The Republicans CANT solve this country’s problems – they are NOT the solution, theyARE the problem!!!

          • TheSkalawag929

            I agree Tobewan.
            But is there a chance that some may be turned away from the Darkside?

          • oldtack

            There are a lot of Radical Christians so rabid in their convictions that they are capable of this – just like the Radical Muslims. In that fashion you are very much akin in your fanaticism.

            Now – if you can break yourself of one line dialogue – please tell me the difference in your positions.

            Both sides are convinced that they and they alone are blessed with “absolute truth”. Both sides are convinced that they and they alone are the Creators “chosen people” and only they and they alone will enter the Kingdom with all others cast into outer darkness or Hell – whichever you wish to call it.

            Where is the difference?

          • middleclasstaxpayer

            There is NO difference between two opposing sides who are convinced they are both right. Te only difference is in HOW the two sides believe the problems should be solved. Since one side has had two years with a favorable majority in both houses and yet failed to accomplish the most pressing issues, to some that might be considered STRIKE ONE! Since the SAME party has had a total of almost four years to solve our most pressing issue (Hint: JOBS) and has failed, that might be considered STRIKE 2! Now the only question left is, do we risk STRIKING OUT (ie: strike 3), or do we try something new?

          • highpckts

            Gee issue 1 – might we say Repubs in congress that blocked almost everything put in front of them! Issue 2 -the President does not have the power to just create jobs! When you have people like Mitch McConnel saying his only job was to make this President a one termer! After that remark, he should have been recalled!! Why would any sane person vote for the party that put us in this position in the first place! I call that insanity!

          • oldtack

            Hey Tax—
            A good article. If there were no stumbling blocks obstructing proposals then I would concede you have a good point. You see failure and I see deliberate stumbling blocks by the other side that prevented the improvement or solution to pressing issues.
            And – that’s what makes this Country great. We are free to express our differences in a civilized manner and still be in disagreement.

            Reminds me of 1952. My Dad made sure he paid poll tax for he and my Mother and ensured they would be early at the polling booth. When they were leaving my Mom asked Dad “who did you vote for” He replied “I voted for ____ of course”. Mom just chuckled and said “well, I just cancelled your vote”.

            And so it will be in this election. When I vote I can say “well old tax cancelled my vote and you can think the same.

            It’s how each individual sees the problem.

            Have a good day.

            tack

          • UTGDI

            I would call strike one a fould tip, it still counts as a strike. Remember part of the delay, or nonperformance, was that the administration was bending over backwards to “work with” republicans from the congress, towards a bipartisan solution. remember he was elected on the idea that his administration would change the politivcal environment in Washington. He attempted to do this, and after the rebuke in 2010, I think both sides have entrenched themselves and fail to move forward with anything, for fear of the opposition being able to claim victory. They are supposed to be statesmen looking out for the best intersest of the country and thier constituents, but far to many are polititians looking at protecting thier party’s hold on whatever seat they currently occupy.

            One thing republicans do very well, is if they have both a majority in both the legislature and the white house, they exploit it for all its worth. No pretense of bipartisanship necessary.

            Your strike 2 may be a missed call since both the Democratically controlled Senate (not voting on republican bills passed by the house), and the republican house not discussing democratic ideas proposed by the white house, or some could argue any proposals that would improve the job situation by the white house have led to this governments failure to meet its obligations to the country. Thus we have a “Throw the bums out” frustration by the electorate.

            I believe it was House speaker McConnell (sp?) that has been often quoted as saying “Our job is to make this administration a one term presidency”

            Thus the perception of being the Party of “NO”!

            BTW since you are using a baseball analogy — Governor Romney would not be the pinch hitter that the GM would call on to come through with the big hit. Likely the republican candidate would be cleaning out the cash boxes in the consessions stands and giving away the good stuff left on the shelves to his friends and sponsors.

          • grammyjill

            Oh! You’ve met Romney? You pegged him! That’s just about what he did in Mass.

          • hilandar1000

            The republican majority in the house has had two years to come up with “jobs” legislation — which is what got them elected. So what issue do they decide to focus on as soon as they are sworn into office? Abortion.

          • oldtack

            An idiotic two line retort from a true imbecile.

            A two line retort?

            Well that is an improvement over those one liners on your survey record. You may become capable of limited dialogue someday.

            But – then again – pigs may one day have the capability to fly. About the same odds.

          • I12cubak92

            No, not “recently” but during the crusades, the Chistians preformed many beheading, murdered and even roasted the muslim children. This was all done by Richard the Lionhearted. In those days the Muslims, especially in Turkey were were the most advanced civilizations in the world. You might just do some reading and find out about the horrors that Christianity doled out to the rest of world. As for Isreal, America wants a fair and just solution to all concerned. Is it fair that thousands of Jews have move from every part of the world to push out the Palistinians who’ve liveed there for thousands of years? This is why both sides are now thinking about a one state solution with shared freedom, rights and responsibilities.
            Sorry about my poor spelling.

          • jrg973

            The Christians of the crusades you refer to not only killed Muslim’s they killed fellow Christians that where native to Palistine

          • joyscarbo

            Beheadings in other countries comitted by fundamentalist muslims and our own home-grown, religious right fundamentalist terrorists bombing womens’ clinics where abortions are preformed and targeting and murdering doctors IS ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENT WHATSOEVER!!!!!!

          • Middleclass (really), If Iran dropped a bomb on the United States and killed your entire family, you don’t know how you would react. I am sure I would be angry and want justice. Some don’t and some do. There was a couple, here, whose daughter was snatched off the street. The perp drove around with her all night raping her. Then he shot her and dismembered her body. Google Jerilee Underwood. Her parents got on television and forgave him. I don’t think I would. There was a picture in a magazine that showed an Iraqi father holding his daughter and crying. The story said he lost his entire family in the bombing of Baghdad.

        • hilandar1000

          You are so very correct, Oldtack.

      • dellmartin

        The folly is all yours mct. Don’t you even understand you are voting against your own self interest if you truly are a middle class taxpayer? And if you want to go toe to toe on what they said vs what we said, you will find yourself on the losing side, by a very wide margin.

        • middleclasstaxpayer

          You’re complaining to the wrong person….it was YOUR PARTY who flip-flopped on God & Jerusalem……why don’t you ASK Obama why he changed it all???

          • mct, why don’t you prove what you say. Play like you are in a court of law and have to back up everything you say with facts.

          • grammyjill

            Yes, the platform did not have any mention of God or Jerusalem in it. When President Obama found out he had it changed because he said leaving them out was NOT his platform.

      • Frankly who cares about Israel anyway. Why do our politicians fall over themselves for Israel and not spend more time on OUR country? Why is Romney so “in love” of Israel – is it only about $$$$. I say we cut funding Israel and see how much stomach Bibi has for war. Israel is bleeding the U.S dry when we should be taking care of OUR interests.

        • middleclasstaxpayer

          We are giving money to countries all over the world for many different reasons. We could also ask, why did the US discourage oil drilling in N. Dakota but send billions to Chile & other S. American areas so THEY could drill and then SELL us their oil at world market prices.

          • mct, first, all generalities are lies. Second, there is a 118 new oil drillings in the US since 2009. Third, North Dakota is booming right now because of the oil drilling.

          • middleclasstaxpayer

            All generalities are lies? What about “we’ll all play by the same rules??” I knew that wasn’t true! Was it???

        • TheSkalawag929

          You can’t just cut a friend loose like that.

      • Ed

        It will be all right. Just keep taking your meds and relax. The hallucinations will soon stop.

      • MCT, since your violent diatribe denotes that you dislike President Obama, is it because:
        a. He is a Republican?
        b. He is Black?
        c. All of the above?

        Is the church you and 130 belong to, the KKK?

      • middleclasstaxpayer, what about all the facts you heard last night comment on those please

        • middleclasstaxpayer

          I did hear a lot of “beliefs” but not many facts. Sorry!

          • BDD1951

            No you didn’t. you heard facts, you just don’t won’t to admit it. You’re one of those people who are so in love with the Republican party that you just don’t won’t to see it. “There is none so blind as those that refuse to see.”

          • You lying sack of hypocricy, you never even listened to the speech.

      • If Mr. Romney is such a christian then did he read the bible? What about the scripture: ‘a workman is worth his wages’? When someone works all of their life and was promised a pension as part of their wages, then taking over a business and pocketing the pension money is a sin. God will take care of the rest. I am a christian and know that we are all God’s children. We may not do his will and He may be unhappy with what we do, but we are loved. It was the good Samaritan who was applauded in the scriptures.

        • middleclasstaxpayer

          Ask Obama why his (really OUR) $550 Billion investment in Solyndra eventually led to their bankruptcy, with the loss of ALL jobs at the company?

          • grammyjill

            Check your facts. Solyndra was Bush’s. It went out of business right after Obama took office. So, go ask Bush where your money went. I’m sure he’ll have a great anwser.

      • MCTP, are you aware of the fact that the word Jerusalem was not included in the GOP platform, and that the Republican standard bearer did not even correct the omission? If correcting an omission during a convention warrants criticism from conservatives and the CNN talking heads that spent more time talking about it than covering the convention, where does that leave the party whose platform continues to ignore that issue.
        All things being equal, I rather have deals with the Russians than with the Iranian Ayatollahs, such as Iran-Contra and the secret business deals the Koch brothers admitted to in spite of the fact that there are sanctions in place prohibiting them.
        By all means, Go Obama!!!

      • Your point is both non germane and obscure. Are you suggesting that Liberals are not also Christians? Is your point that Liberals do not support Israeli?
        When we have unemployment at over 8%, when we have a national debt that will cripple us if we do not address it; you want to talk about the capital of Israel? After the former Presidents speech about the choice and the way forward; Is that really your priority?

      • I understand the need for a counter narrative since Clinton completely devastated all your psuedo-rational arguments against Obama, but you’ll have to do better than that.

      • If I were a betting woman, I would bet there are just as many (if not more) real Christians among Democrats as among Republicans. And, just guessing here, I wonder if you are a “in name only” Christian,

      • Donahue Johnson

        what are you talking about? Stop blaming Obama and go out and find a job and stop blogging..

        • middleclasstaxpayer

          You’re 100% right…what was I thinking…..it has to be Bush’s fault, just like Obama keeps saying!

      • mjw1952

        First of there may or may not be a god, but that is irrelevant to a political campaign. He is running for president, not pope. Second of all he is running for president of the United States, not Israel. What does saying that a city that not one country recognizes as the capital of Israel is the capital have to do with the future of the United States?

      • UTGDI

        I must not have been paying attention. When did “Liberals” state there is no God?
        Just because they choose to reach out to the poor and needy, as opposed to giving lip service to how devoutly religious they are, does not mean that anyone has less of a testimony about our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

        If this was a clumsy attempt to insinuate that liberals worship President Obama, then in my opinion you missed the mark. It could be that I am a foul mood, and tiring of all the negativity.

        Look at where each of the candidates would like to take us. Do either have a plan? Have they adequately explained that plan, or is it a “Secret” that we will be let in on after November 6th.

        As for secret deals, and conspiracies, I’ll not even attempt do disuade you of your delusions. The government is in constant negotiations at various levels with many governments around the world. I believe that is part of the purpose of having a State Department. Are all those negotiations available to the public immediately — No. There are good reasons for this, unless you are so far gone, that the government of your nation is now considered the enemy.

        BTW this whole article was about a speech from a master politician supporting his candidate, at a convention for thier party. Notice that he outlined differences in viewpoint between the two candidates without denigrating the opposition. He explained why his candidate deserves another term.

        Using simple to understand language he even pointed out how either of the candidates can get the nation back to balancing its books — Arithmetic — and shared sacrifice from all members of society. Rich and poor alike will need to give something up to bring down spending.

    • 13observer

      When your Democrat party denounced GOD in it’s platform, it stole every gain you might have made in Clinton’s speech.

      • This God is not republican, He loves all of us, including Africans. Please read the Bible correctly. You should also pray for the Democrats including Pres Obama for America’s blessings.

      • 130, I want to know where the Democrats denounced God in their platform? What is your proof.

      • TheSkalawag929

        That would be only as YOU see it.
        And you see it that way because it make YOU feel better.

        • neece00

          No that is not as he sees it, I see it that way and I am sure millions of other Americans see it that way. Our God is not republican or democrat and he is for everyone black or white.

          • TheSkalawag929

            How do you know how 13observer sees things?

            So what if you and millions of other Americans see it the same way. Are you saying that large numbers constitute whether something is right? We aren’t living in the Dark Ages anymore.

            Who is the “Our” that you are talking about when you say that God is not republican or democrat?

        • 1LonesomeDove1

          And you don’t see it that way because it makes YOU feel better.

          • TheSkalawag929

            Okay.

          • 1LonesomeDove1

            OK

    • frharry

      Dominick has hit this one right on the head. I would add Sandra Fluke, the woman denied her right to speak before a House committee dominated by Tea Party Republicans and then slandered by Rush Limbaugh and his ditto heads on the air. It was gratifying to see this young woman come back from this storm of unwarranted ad hominem demonization and speak to the convention in such confident and unassuming terms. Her point that the decisions about birth control are made by those who will never have to use it is particularly well taken. She will make a fine attorney.

      I would also add Sister Simone Campbell and her brilliant recitation of Catholic social and ethical theology last night. I greatly admire these courageous women without whose hard work Roman Catholicism would collapse within days and who complete that work despite a lack of gratitude and a tsunami of resistance from their out of touch all-male hierarchy. Her point is well taken: I AM my sister’s keeper. I AM my brother’s keeper. And “we’re all in this together” is Catholic social teaching, NOT “You’re on your own.”

      What really struck me these last two nights is how indebted we Americans are to our very bright, articulate and courageous women. Their voices add a badly missing element to a political discourse that is usually dominated by testosterone damaged male posturing.

      • I can’t remember the exact words she used, but one of the parts in Sister Simone’s speech that I liked most was when she reminded those whose sole purpose in life seems to be limited to defending the unborn right to live, that their commitment to life should also be extended to the living.
        I agree with you regarding the role women are playing in our political process. I am delighted with the prominent role they play in the Democratic party, which contrasts with what they get from the GOP, such as the despective commentary made yesterday by a “conservative” that referred to their speeches as vagina monologues. I hope we nominate a woman in 2016, and I hope she is elected. The fact that we are among the few industrialized countries that never elected a woman President or PM is embarrassing.

        • TheOldNorthChurch

          Nikki Haley, Susan Martinez, Mary Fallin, Jan Brewer – Women?

          • Yes, female Republicans and Democrats delivered speeches during the conventions; it is not clear their contributions were well received by those who believe the role of a woman is procreation and baking cookies, however.
            What bothers me the most on this issue is not so much the inclusion or exclusion of women in secondary roles in the USA, but our failure to elect a female President or even a Vice President. Why is that? Why can so many countries elect female leaders, time and again, and the best we can say for ourselves is that we let them deliver a speech during a convention or hold a Cabinet position. Consider this short list:
            Margaret Thatcher, Indira Ghandi, Golda Meir, Angela Merkel, Eva Peron, Cristina Fernandez de Kichner, Michelle Bachelet, Dilma Rousseff, Mary McAleese, Violeta Chamorro, Corazon Aquino, Indira Ghandi, Pratibha Patil, Hasina Wajed, Laura Chinchilla, Julia Gillard, Helle Thorning-Schmidt and the list goes on.

          • TheOldNorthChurch

            When they do run for Higher office the Press feels free to destroy them, rather than weigh-in on their merits.

          • The press is complicit in destroying the character of women running for higher office, inasmuch as they don’t have the guts to comfront the bigots who remain intent in preserving their medieval values.
            The part that surprises me is that the ones that have the courage to stand up are often the least qualified, and the ones with the best credentials often back off.

          • I voted for Hillary in primary But give credit to Obama for taking on worst crash in 80 yrs 2 screwed up Long wars based on lies- wasting lives and trillions- Bush gave up but Obama got bin laden – that may have stopped another 9 / 11 Against all odds ( GOP Congress Fox Rush Trump Palen Rove ) Obama still passed first health bill ever . It will improve and help millions Thats what GOP is afraid of among many other things. I hope Hilliary runs in 2016 .She has my vote . Mitt Ryan have vowed to repeal everything we worked hard for and vowed to REPEAL ALL REGULATIONS We tried that It led to global disaster .why would any person R or D vote to go back to those failed wealth favoring policies that tanked middle class hopes and wages ? Bush even gave big cuts to Co that sent good jobs overseas That will continue under Mitt who has his wealth in Caymans Sweden and who knows where . Come clean Mitt Show us your tax returns All others have Why are you any different ?

          • joyscarbo

            Hey, Dominick…
            While history is littered with countless women who have contributed positively to humanity, we still find some roles elusive. I think I have some insight…but let me preface my observations with saying I’m a proud woman that was raised by proud women.
            I’m an RN. I love everything about being an RN. I really care about people and I’ve worked with all ages over my 17 year career. Having said that, I really can’t stand our profession. We RN’s really outnumber doctors, but we remain politically whimpy in comparison. Nursing is still a female dominated and our leadership reflects that. We women still take everything WAY too personally. We love to complain but by and large do little to actively change things. The nursing profession is infamous for eating it’s young rather than bringing them along. I think it’s because women are territorial. Don’t get me wrong. We women have all the right attributes to truly be rulers. Afterall, the Bible says, “…the hand that rocks the cradle will rule the world.”
            I would like nothing more for my fellow women. I admire all of the women you mentioned and many more. My personal mentors are great, strong women- my childhood friend’s mother who is a black woman who raised 3 kids in the 60’s and 70’s along and was a highly educated university professor- my other mentor was my high school english teacher who inspired me and helped me through those tough years of angst.
            My observation of men are that they can put bad blood aside when it is needed and work toward getting down to work. Men can enter a new workplace and get along. Women will see another woman as competition.
            A lot of women may not like what I’m saying…and I’m not labeling ALL women. These are just generalized observations of mine alone.

          • hilandar1000

            While I appreciate and understand your thoughtful observations, I do not agree with your next to last paragraph, which states that “women see another woman as competition”, while men “put their bad blood aside when it is needed”. If this were truly the case, then we would have had a Congress that somehow managed to work together in the last two years — which definitely did not happen.

            I think too many of us are programmed by society to accept the male viewpoint of our gender — which too often paints women as being too competitive and unforgiving on a shallow level. I think most of the women you mentioned as being significant in your life probably recognized the very real limitations placed on us as women, but would have stuck together with support and respect for any woman who challenged the status quo stereotypes that have been voiced by men for many generations.

          • joyscarbo

            I’m speaking in generalizations, not specific incidents. Your example of congress is a poor one. That was a case of one group of individuals who’s single purpose was to make it appear that Obama was weak and unable to lead or get anything done. That is an example manipulation with intent humiliate. It’s about opposing forces at war with each other.

            Women are hardly shallow and I never suggested that. They are anything but shallow. My female role models in my life were fiercely independent women who overcame much. One is my childhood friend’s mother- now in her mid 80’s- a black woman who was a university professor who was divorced in the 60’s and raised her children alone. She taught me about strength and the unique qualities that women bring to the table. I embrace uniquely female strengths. My other role model was my high school english literature teacher. She is still my friend today, more thant 30 years later. She was a great educator who helped to guide me through those difficult, angst-ridden teen years.

            I stand by my statements about how I feel about my chosen profession. When more than 50% of nurses leave the profession before 5 years of service, you know there is something very wrong. I’ve seen many young nurses be treated poorly. There is not nearly enough mentorship. Nursing is still a very female-dominated profession- moreso than education. We must look to ourselves to discern why it is that we are not more politically powerful and why we fail badly to demonstrate inclusiveness and mentorship to our new nurses.

          • hilandar1000

            Thanks for your clarification, Joy. I think we are in basic agreement, and I can certainly understand your feelings about young nurses needing mentors in your profession. Good mentoring is important in any profession.

            I still, however object to your generalization about men being able to overcome differences and work together better than women in your statement, “My observation of men are that they can put bad blood aside when it is needed and work toward getting down to work. Men can enter a new workplace and get along. Women will see another woman as competition.”

            In my experience, it has been evident that men are much more competitive than women and cannot put differences aside to get the work done as well as women. Since we seem to have had different experiences in this regard, I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree on this one issue and get on with the work to be done — to get Obama-Biden re-elected. Thanks for making us aware of this situation in an important area where some of us might not have been as aware as we should have been.

          • joyscarbo

            I love that we’re talking about this!
            I am with you completely with getting Obama re-elected…the poor and middle class can’t afford the same old policies that the republicans continue to try to sell us.
            I thought a lot about your comments on who can put differences aside- men vs. women. I think you’ve hit the nail on the head when you said that my experiences have shaped how I see these situations. It’s so true! I’m an only girl and I have 3 brothers. When I was 11, my parents moved our family from a large suburban area to a very rural, small town. My brothers seemed to fit it right away and quickly made friends. For me, it was traumatic. I wasn’t accepted at all. The girls were cruel and no amount of friendliness on my part made it any easier. I couldn’t wait to get out of that small town and away from those many mean girls. You’d think that I’d have more male friends but I don’t. My closest friends are women. I’m far more closer to my mom than dad. I’m not extremely close with my brothers either. My husband is a manager and he seems to never have a problem with any employee, no matter how much they drive him nuts. It’s never personal to him. Did you know that the former presidents are all very close not matter what party they belong to? Ever hear comedians talk about how women always have one woman at work they intensely dislike? I also know how when I get irritated with females that I work with, I catch myself finding that part of the problem is that I’m taking it WAAYYY too personally. I guess those things influence my opinion on these matters.
            Thanks for making me think about the motives that help to form my perspective!

          • hilandar1000

            Wow, Joy, this is really interesting. You just opened up some new territory in my mind as well. I lived in a small town too during my younger days, and know exactly what you mean. I had not thought of that as being related to how one viewed other women — and men too, for that matter. However, you are absolutely right, and I think those experiences of ours may have been very similar. For me, it’s been so long ago, I guess I had pretty much forgotten about it. I think small town mentality does have something to do with it. This would be fun to explore further. You’ve got me thinking about it too. Could it be that it has something to do with narrow, conservative thinking that seems to be so prevalent in small towns?

          • IT’S IN YOU ALL HANDS YOU HAVE THE NUMBER EVEN WITH THE NON-WHITE MALES I KNOW IF HILLARY RUNS I’AM VOTING FOR HER

          • @TheOldNorthChurch, I think Dominick Vila just schooled you!!

    • TheOldNorthChurch

      Obama should have not only listened to Clinton, but learned from him. But listen up here – it is arithmetic: Only Three Presidents experienced declines in the 12 month average workforce during their second full year in office since 1975.

      Reagan in 1982. Who after his 1st term his policies resulted in an increase of 5.7% from 1980 and after his second term increased the workforce another 10.1% for a combined two terms of 15.8%.

      Bush-2 in 2002. Who after his 1st term his policies resulted in an increase of 1.7% from 2000 and after his second term increased the workforce another 4.5% for a combined two terms of 6.1%.

      Obama in 2010. Who after his 1st term his policies resulted in an decrease of -2.7% from 2008 using the current projected numbers for the rest of this year.

      Comparing Reagan and Clinton. Clinton did not experience any decline in the workforce at anytime and his policies continued the expansion started by Reagan and continued by Bush-1. Clinton was the darling of Wall Street and Silicon Valley. His two year expansion was a combined 15.5%. Combining Reagan + Bush-1+Clinton the economy added 34.4% to the average workforce. Adding Bush-2 it is 40.5%

      The take home message is President Obama has to radically alter his policies and go back to the Reagan-Bush-Clinton policies of the past. These work – otherwise we got to let him go.

      • grammyjill

        When Obama took office we were loosing 750,000 jobs per month. Since he took office we have had 29 straight months of job growth. No it’s not enough yet. But as President Clinton said last night, NO ONE, not me or any of my predasessors could have fixed this mess in four years. Obama has done well considering what he’s been up against, but it going to take a while longer and some cooperation from the other side.

        • TheOldNorthChurch

          As I have stressed talking points are not very fact based on either side.

          Between January 2009 and August 2009 there were 369,000 jobs lost. That is 45,250 jobs per month. The recession reportedly ended in June 2009 (I don’t believe it). Between August 2009 and December 2009 there were another 2,121,000 lost or 530,250 per month. For all of 2010 there were another 814,000 jobs lost or 67,800 per month. Modest recovery began in 2011 with an increase of 805,000 or 67,111 per month. So far in 2012 we are averaging 190,000 per month. Remember 150,000 keeps pace with population growth. Job growth needs to be about 450,000 per month to recover.

          Clinton did do better and would have done better. He was setting up 2016 for Hillary. Reagan did better with similar circumstances as Obama has experienced.

          The cooperation has to be from both sides and based on what has worked in the past. Reagan and Clinton had very similar agendas for business growth.

          • grammyjill

            You are right that cooperation has to come from both sides. There is currently a jobs bill and an infrastructure bill sitting in the house and they have been there for over a year. If the House republicans would let them go through there would be lots of jobs for everyone. Romney says if he gets in then he will get 12 million jobs. Where do you think they would come from? Maybe the jobs bill and the infrastructure bill? He’d take the credit for something he didn’t have anything to do with. And thinking the rich are job creators is mostly wrong. There are some rich that do put people to work, but most just hoard money. When the shit hit the fan here, wee lost six of the large national stores in four months all the rich people pulled out. Old North Church, I suspect you live somewhere near Boston. That means you probably lived there when Romney was govenor. Don’t you remember that. I do. I’m just over the border, so I get Boston news. I remember the pot holes big enough to loose your car in, the rusting bridges, the young people moving away because there were no jobs. I remember Deval Patrick on TV asking all those people to please come home. And as Gov. Patrick said “He wanted the job, but did not want to do the job.” Knowing this, I don’t see how you could possibly want that man to be in the office of POTUS and not do that job either. IF it’s because Obama is black, close your eyes and listen with your heart.

          • TheOldNorthChurch

            The way to get needed Job Growth is to get Small Businesses Hiring. There 5,200,000 of them in the US that have 20 employees or less. I am not talking tax breaks or tax credits, these might help a few but don’t do most that much good. We need to reduce the cost of Regulatory compliance for them and make capital available by stopping the amount of money being borrowed and taken out of the capital markets by Federal and State Governments.

            SBA estimates that it cost $10,585 per employee for these businesses to comply with the regulation in place as of 2010. My companies cost is about double this number. It is just getting to hard.

            Beginning 2013 we will have to pay a 2.3% excise tax do to the Health-care bill, this will cost us over $69,000. There is no projected increase in sales and we will need to get this from laying off two employees. It is sickening.

            The problem is is that these Government created jobs are just temporary jobs and mostly make work projects that are not really needed. If were are going to have an infrastructure job bill, then let’s rebuild the power grid.

            If we matched Reagan and Clinton’s numbers of Jobs created we would produce 21,800,000 jobs in 8 years (15.6%). It would mean recovery.

            By the way I don’t live in Boston.

          • grammyjill

            my honest advice is instead of running the president down, write him a letter. he’ll read it. and how is he going to know something is wrong if no one tells him. I have not seen another president that truly wants to help us except maybe clinton. I got to but my first house because of clinton. lost it under bush. getting ready to do it again though.

    • TheOldNorthChurch

      Dominick – they did not let you see my response. They do that when I use facts and arithmetic. It was interesting, but allowed everyone to see to much of the real numbers.

    • NY2FL2CA

      Anyone who does not plan to vote for Obama this year because of his ‘failed’ attempt to fix the economy has failed to fathom the extent that the economy had been ravaged by Republican shenanigans before Obama could do anything to stop it from freefall. In California a person can be 5150’d and held against their will for up to 72 hours for mental evaluation/treatment if deemed a danger to themself or others, or if they are gravely disabled (maybe irrational thought processes?!). Most states have similar provisions. I think the Republicans meet the criteria- they are a danger to everyone who practices the Golden Rule and brotherly love, or disagrees with them. Therefore, I think the day before the election they should be 5150’d and not able to cast their votes; unless of course they voted absentee.

    • Ron

      Ditto to that. I wish we could clone Bill Clinton and fill the DNP with them

    • l just wish we could have clinton back……

    • Clinton Broke Down The Lies One At A Time Then He Told The Real Truth !! He Handed The GOP/Tea Party Lies Asses Back To Them On A Silver Platter!!! Bill Did Kill The Lies And He Rock The Votes For Obama!!!

    • onedonewong

      Bill always appeals to those who can’t think for themslves

    • We the people who know Obama’s background, knowing he has lied and kept his originality hidden from all Americans and isn’t a Citizen of the US will not vote for him and do everything we can to get him out!!! He is deceitful and a socialist. We demand to keep our freedom!!!

      • Christine, you have no right to say “we, the people.” You are single entity and my say, “I” I doubt you have ever had an original thought. You sound like the fringe lunatics who only know how to call names. What do you know that you could prove in a court of law? Just because nuts call someone names, does not mean that that person is what they called them.

        My philosophy: Greed and ignorance are the two greatest sins and greed feeds off ignorance.

  • The big question is will the truth and common sense, no matter how well presented, be enough to outweigh all of the irrational, vindictive, extreme and bigoted hate that has built up over these past 4 years.

    • neece00

      We can only hope!

      • YepThatTell

        We have hope…and our Vote.

        • neece00

          You’re right, we have HOPE and we have my vote plus many more.

    • 13observer

      Did you mean the Democrats hate for GOD?

      • old_blu

        Remember the separation of church and state? Why do you hate the constitution? Why do all Tea baggers hate the constitution?

        You know he NAILED it last night.

        Obama/Biden 2012

    • 13observer

      Ask your God Obama, he has all the answers!

      • 130 you have re-inforced my belief that we have evolved to a point and and are now going down the other side and the descent is faster than the ascent.

        I have no political party, but I vote. I have f riends in all three parties. My Democrat friends are just as religious as my Republican friends. Maybe, they don’t go to your church and if you are an example, I wouldn’t want to either.

    • hopefloats1

      Unfortunately I do agree with your concerns Kenneth. I am stunned at the degree of it and as I have heard many folks express their dismay over these irrational, vindictive, extreme and bigoted hateful folks and the inability to try to talk or express a view that is in any way different from what they support. And do not expect to be able to disccuss facts or present information and expect that to be received at all….if you do not believe and support their views then you are gonna most likely be hammered and insulted. It has been my experience that it does not seem to make any difference if their views are based on facts or reality or that maybe there is other information that may be of value for them to study in conjunction with their values – it seems to me that there is not way to share or have a discussion without suffering a world of wrath and rantings. It is disturbing. I think that the key is that we all need to exercise our right to vote. If we want to rehire Obama then we have to support him by showing up and casting that vote.

      • TheSkalawag929

        We also need to get others registered and to the polls to vote.

    • frharry

      Yes, Kenneth. I fear the same thing. The presidencies of Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush proved that competence of the candidate to actually lead or the capacity to make reasoned decisions are not requirements for election to the White House. As the rather cynical reporter H.L. Mencken (of Scopes Monkey Trial fame) observed, “Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.”

    • TheSkalawag929

      Good question.
      I agree with neeceoo we can only hope.

  • I would like to have seen what Hillary could’ve done in the White House.

  • old_blu

    What a great speech, he did a very good job, the best thing he said “Republican argument against the President’s re-election was pretty simple: We left him a total mess, he hasn’t finished cleaning it up yet, so fire him and put us back in.” (so they can screw it up again)

    It looks like Ryan has become the mouth for Romney, that is so good for the dems.

    Obama/Biden 2012

  • Romney/Ryan were trying their best to alienate both Obama/Clinton , they failed in their attempt as Clinton lathered their backside last night . Clinton showed those two that lies don’t pay dividends This speech aids the plan the DNC has to move forward and help Onama to win this election and finish the job. To point out that no president could bring back this country to what it was , is necessary to destroy the myth the GOP’s been tossing around. Everytime the GOP’s form the government they ruin the country and it always take the Democrats to clean up their mess

    • YepThatTell

      Romney/Ryan can’t hide from their lies. How refreshing to hear Truth, plain-spoken.

  • chisolm

    Bill Clinton did a wonderful job of illustrating the complete failure of President Obama. When Clinton’s majority in Congress was lost, he moved to the center and worked with Republicans on the policies he touts today as his. President Obama has totally excluded anybody he disagrees with from any influence on the direction of the country. Most of his proposals have been passed without a single Republican vote and now that Republicans have a majority in the house, Obama hasn’t been able to pass anything. Clinton saw the light and moved to the center, Obama never will.

    • YepThatTell

      Maybe the hardline right-wingers need to move toward the center, too. Why do you not mention that?

      • joyscarbo

        I agree…I believe in the separation of church and state.
        But I loved Bill Clinton’s speech. And I do like that many religious leaders are declaring that they support Obama. Many dems are spirtitually inovolved people too and I appreciate that. But having a religious institution be the test by which we pick a political leader is something that cannot stand. Go back to what Kennedy said about separation of church and state to a group of religious leaders.

    • Joseph Hemphill

      love your revisionist view on history ( not ) the republican party is now the party of far right, out of touch misogynistic bible thumpers intent on turning our republic into a Christian theocracy. Please keep your faith at church and at home where it belongs, it has no place in politics, the constitution specifically addresses this. The GOTP has proven to be nothing but obstructionist and the main stream right, if it even exists anymore, cannot control their own party extremists.

      • karinursula

        You are so right Joseph. I loved that speech last night, it brought hope back,I hope that enough Undecided watched the speech last night, not just
        President Clinton’s but all the other speeches. It was wonderful. I don’t like hate and it makes me sick when I read some of the names that President Obama is being called. I can understand dislike, different of opinions but actually hate is very hard for me to understand, and I do believe that this hate is coming from the fact that the President is black, I really don’t believe that God would approve of this.

  • BDD1951

    Arithmetic. Best answer of all.

  • montanabill

    Speech? The Cowboys won!

    • old_blu

      That’s funny bill.

    • joyscarbo

      Watching a mindless game while avoiding the facts so that he can engage in an intellegent debate. A republican needs to be petting your head, “Good, Bill, keep watching the sorry Cowboys instead of hearing facts from the other side!”

      • montanabill

        Missing Clinton was not missing any ‘facts’. Facts are things that involve the complete truth, not time sequenced, cherry picking of desired information. I figured it would be little more than the usual ‘created 4 million jobs’ and ‘saved GM’ distortions.

        • joyscarbo

          How would you know that you didn’t miss anything if you didn’t even watch?

          Even I watched what I could of the RNC. I work 10 hour days, so getting home at 7p and 8p made it difficult. Some of it was okay, some of it was wasn’t. There were moments that I agreed with a republican- for example, Condy Rice is working toward education reform, particularly for inner city youth. She said that a child with a low quality education is someone who is being left at a disadvantage. I couldn’t agree with her more. Overall, I felt the RNC was bland and one-note… big government is evil, Obama hates the private sector…blah..blah…blah…we hate Obama…etc. And then the lies. Mountains of them! Why? I don’t get it.

          At least the DNC is energized and enthusiastic about their party and their party’s platforms. You missed Bill Clinton reciting every single known republican platform and telling the masses what it means to them and why it would or wouldn’t work. It was really informational. Bill Clinton is a great speaker. Elizabether Warren was too…infact, most of the speakers are.

          • montanabill

            Interesting that you refer to Republicans skewing of information to create facts as ‘lies’, but when the speakers at the DNC did it, it was ‘informational’! The most outrageous examples: ‘4.5 million new jobs’. Even CNN poohed on that one. ‘Saved GM and a million jobs’, UAW was saved, the bond holders hosed and GM is on life support with a very bad prognosis. One other little fact that was happily ignored, if GM had gone into bankruptcy, it wouldn’t have died as generally implied. It would have renegotiated contracts, set up debt payment schedules, more quickly closed the plants it eventually closed anyway and been forced to build only the cars with real market potential. Yes, jobs would have been lost, but GM would have been in a much better position for the future than it is now.

            Most people, with a little training, can become ‘great speakers’. Hugo Chavez is a great speaker, just to name one of many.

          • joyscarbo

            I guess you’re right….a guy who earned only a “C” average in college and was a really horrible “B” movie actor became a great orator with a little training.
            Your republican “god” Ronald Reagan. The original, “Bonzo goes to Washington.”

          • montanabill

            Do yourself a favor and go see 2016. It is not a partisan flick, but certainly one everyone should see.

          • joyscarbo

            Critics have said of your 2016: Obama’s America,
            “…a cavalcade of conspiracy theories, psycho-politico conjectures and incendiary labeling.”

            I know that this movie is an anti-Obama film, targeted at making him look like a stereotypical, scary black man. Big surprise from you and the makers of this movie, Bill. Maybe you grew up with both parents. Not a lot of us did. Any child who is abandoned by their father has “daddy issues.” I have few memories of my bio-dad. My parents divorced when I was 4 years old. When you’re left to come to your own conclusions about who your father is or is not, as a child you tend to try to idealize them. That doesn’t make Obama some raging negro, hell-bent on undoing America and everything that you white males have worked so hard to build. Your fear, anxiety and paranoia about Obama is utter ridiculous.
            And…surprise!…your birther, neo-conservative, right wingnut, tea party friends LOVE IT!
            I’m quite sure you never bothered to see “Ferinheit 91″1 or “Sicko.” Perhaps if YOU had taken a deeper look at George W Bush…maybe our country wouldn’t have been in the horrible state he left it in, in 2008.

            I will vote for Obama again this year. I campaign for Obama. Your party must be really quite desparate to be funding and promoting another birther movie to get your sorry candidate elected.

          • montanabill

            You are wrong on virtually every count. I really expect you to vote for Obama, but when you let someone else do your thinking for you, e.g. ‘critics’, and very selective critics, at that, then you are just the kind of person every party wants on their side when they run candidates for office. Ask no questions, just vote for them.

          • joyscarbo

            And what is your excuse after viewing “Farenheit 911″ and” Sicko?” I suspect you didn’t see either of these movies which raised huge concerns about the Bush administration but you voted for him anyway…right?

          • joyscarbo

            Oh…and by the way…
            “The success or failure of any government in the final analysis must be measured by the well-being of its citizens. Nothing can be more important to a state than its public health; the state’s paramount concern should be the health of its people.” Franklin Delano Roosevelt

          • montanabill

            Sicko was far more on target than the crazy mish-mash of Bush hating quick cuts in Fahrenheit. The latter was full of ‘facts’, if you didn’t know the context or where the information was cut from, and if you didn’t pay enough attention to know that Moore contradicted himself numerous times. Since Moore didn’t bother to point his demonizing spotlight on socialized medicine, he left us the impression that somehow that would be better. It was like watching a picture of Ying Yang, with only Ying. Yes I voted for Bush. Why? Because of the alternatives.
            Now go see 2016.

          • joyscarbo

            The real proof about the Bush administration was in the pudding, so to speak. He sacrificed thousands of American lives for his war based on fake “intellegence.” Bush tanked the economy and now you want Obama to fix it all in less than 4 years. REALLY??!! Did you just hear what your boy Mitt said on “Meet the Press?” He said he can’t fix our economy in his first term either- said it would take 8 years. Wow… I guess what’s good for the republicans is unacceptible for the democrats.

          • montanabill

            You mean someone who would actually tell you the truth?
            I realize your ‘fake intelligence’ and ‘Bush tanked the economy’ are standard Democrat claims, but neither is true. I would have liked Obama to have been well on his way to fixing the economy cratered by Affordable Housing, especially since he claimed he could do it. Which, by the way, he said after being in office and should have had, by then, a full comprehension of the state of the economy. As has been said before, he is either not too smart, or he is deliberately driving up the debt and keeping the economy from recovering for his own reasons. Which is he, dumb or smart?

  • “Yes, my name is Bill Clinton, and I did not have sex with that woman, I did not inhale, and together with Harold & Kumar we will make a joke of our nation to the rest of the world.”

    hahahaha – Joe Conason, get a real job!

  • 13observer

    Democrats…………….the GODLESS party. Quite obvious after last night!

    • old_blu

      You sound like someone that is very afraid, I sure hope your God will save you from your fears. I feel great ready to go vote right now and cancel out your vote.

    • karinursula

      I still don’t understand what God has to do with politics. Religion and God should be something private not used for hatred.

  • Close, but no cigar…..

  • jerryhulick

    Wow two countries are looking for their village idiots only have to look at this pic. the US is looking for Clinton and Kenya is looking the bamster. by the way did the bamster fetch Bill’s bags

    • jcbsdriver

      JERRY!!!!! Your back!!!! I’ve so missed your insulting, bigoted, racists remarks. Don’t bother replying to this unless your going to give me your phone number. I’m still waiting from the other day. Remember? You have to prove your claims Jerry.

      • jerryhulick

        1-800-0u812 And thank you for the recognition you make feel all my efforts haven’t been wasted. what’s your excuse instead of drinking the kool aid your into bammy beer, same crap

        • jcbsdriver

          EVERYONE JUST IGNORE JERRY

          He hasn’t had his meds today. He’s so worried about Romney/Ryan screwing up his Medicare and Medicaid that he only takes his meds every other day.

          • jerryhulick

            thank you for returning my comment. by the way your great better than any laxitive I’ve ever taken works so quick. Oh no medicare and no medicade, I’ll leave that to all you freeloaders sucking off the bammies teat. Screwing up how about the DNC traveling circus. Jump on board the ship of fools with the washerwomen, “Not me I didn’t do it or maybe I did whatever”

          • jcbsdriver

            Now, Now, Jerry,

            Calm Down

            Everything will be better tomorrow.

          • jerryhulick

            I know tomorow you’ll write I’ll immediately have a bowel movement and everything will be good. I always knew that libs were good for something.

          • jcbsdriver

            I think it’s funny you think I’m a lib. I’ve never even told you who I like in this election. I’ve only commented on how ignorant, racist and judgemental you are.

            And why are you so fixated on your bowel movements? Are you constipated?

            You many need to add a laxative to your other meds.

          • jerryhulick

            Only when I listen to you Libs. By the way I take no meds. don;t need’m I live a very clean healthy life. You see when you don’t have to lie all the time life is easy. My stories are always the truth, deal with it.

          • jcbsdriver

            Oh Jerry. You are so deluded.

            See, we were not talking about the truth. We were talking about your ignorant, bigoted, racist, simple-minded, inflammatory , degrading remarks.

            I don’t care who you are, Democrat, Republican, Black, White, Latino, Gay, Rich, Poor, Educated, Male, Female, Young, Old, Employed, Un-Employed, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Athiest, Liberal or Conservative. Decent, respectable people don’t talk they way you do.

            You truly are scum!

          • jerryhulick

            Thank you my efforts are working pretty soon you’ll be talking just like Debbie the Shultz. And I;’m sure your not talking about the truth cause I’m not sure what the truth is.

          • jcbsdriver

            I also think it’s funny that your posts are always so inflammatory and disgusting.

            If I wasn’t so stupid, I might think that you were actually a democrat using a back handed approach to influence voters towards Obama.

            But that’s just silly talk. Surely, I’m such an idiot that I must have drank the wrong kool-aid this morning.

          • jerryhulick

            Wow your finally getting it. To answer to each of your statements. Yes on #1,NO #2 and on 3 you must have looked in a mirror to see who you are. No you drank the right stuff alnog with a shot of Bammy Beer.

          • jcbsdriver

            Well, I have to go to work now. Nice sparring with you. Maybe I’ll have time to throw a few jabs at you tomorrow. I guess it all depends on which flavor kool-aid I can mix up.

            Take care of yourself Jerry.

          • jerryhulick

            You mean you don’t have your welfare ck. direct deposit. Oh just to let you know I write the Whit house at least once a week. If you think I’m picking on you, you should see the crap I dump on big ears. but it is a shame he never write back. Maybe he’s is smarter

      • karinursula

        And Jerry probably also believes in God and calls himself a nice person

  • 13observer

    People challange…why would poor people want to be REPUBLICAN? Because they might just have some pride and believe in GOD an all our veterans fought for….our Constitution…..Democrats……not so much!!!!!!

    • jcbsdriver

      So your saying that all poor people have no pride, don’t believe in God and don’t support our veterans. Care to add any other demographics besides Democrats into your insult?

    • joyscarbo

      People that are struggling have more pride than you know. Those who are poor, disadvantaged and disabled love this country as much as you do. You republicans don’t set the bar for patriotism and pride. They work hard, raise their kids and they do the best with what they have. They worship God and deserve some respect instead of the disdain and ire from the likes of the republican party.

    • BDD1951

      I am tired of your stupid comments. I raised in the Methodist church and still attend it today. Where do you come up with these hateful remarks. Are you one of those people that Republicans pay to make up those bogus email about Democrats?

  • aquinus

    God Bless you guys, your doing a great job of getting the truth to the people of the United States.
    A proud Democratic voter.
    Joe De Rosa

    • 13observer

      God Bless you say? Really? after last night? Your party doesn’t believe in GOD!!!!

      • neece00

        The mark of a true Christian is love for others and obedience to God’s Word and the key in this phrase is “love for others”. Even though Democrats do not believe the same way you do or the fact that one’s color of skin is different than yours, if you were a true Christian this should not matter. We also have to remember what brought many people to this country and that was freedom of religion and if you are a true Christian, you will love these people regardless of how they spend their Sundays.

      • old_blu

        Go troll your bull shit somewhere else. That’s all you got hahaha.

      • BDD1951

        When are you going to grow up?

      • grammyjill

        could you PLEASE drag your head out of your butt, your brain is starving for oxygen.

    • 13observer

      Obama is your God

  • dotutz

    Oh how I loved last night. Bubba was back in the building! In a way I feel sorry for the Republicans because they don’t have ANYBODY to equal him. If Romney gets in, we should impeach and remove him right away because this country will be going to H… in a Handbasket, enough said????

    • 13observer

      I’ll bet America liked the part about YOUR PARTY leaving GOD out of the platform! Christians and Jews will remember that in November!

      • dotutz

        Thats why they had a Catholic Nun giving a speech about how the Romney/Ryan plans would put us back into the 20’s. Also if you heard what happened yesterday, President Obama said he wanted God put back into the platform! You are just like the rest of the Reps, you only hear what you want! SHAME, SHAME

      • Gym_coach

        I just don’t understand why you think God should be mentioned in the platform? Isn’t there suppossed to be separation of church and state? When do you think that should kick in?

  • WhutHeSaid

    Another historic first: A previous President formally nominates one of his successors. Contrast this with the GOP, who can’t even bring themselves to mention their party’s last President.

    Bill Clinton answered the GOP’s rhetorical question about whether we’re better of now than 4 years ago, and he did it in a way that not just answered the question — he annihilated it. President Clinton stepped up and took on the GOP favorite illusions head-on in a way that perhaps only he can, with a folksy, simple style that can only come from this former President.

    Most of us can remember the vicious and unrelenting attacks that he too endured during his presidency, and the attempts by Republicans to demonize and even impeach him. Remember a sitting President even being accused of murder by insinuation? Despite all of that, Americans look back at the Clinton era with fond memories, and he has become one of the most popular national politicians of our time.

    Clinton wasn’t — and isn’t –perfect, yet Americans remember that he really seemed to care about the average person, and he got the job done. Sure, many other people now claim to have ‘forced’ Clinton into balancing the budget and presiding over the largest economic expansion in recent history, yet Americans know who they entrusted with the task and will not soon forget.

    Now President Clinton has spelled it out for the American public: No President — not him, not any of his predecessors, could have fixed the damage to the economy that President Obama found upon taking office in just 4 years. We ARE better off than 4 years ago, and not just in economic terms. He believes in the path that Obama is taking, as he said, “with all my heart”.

    For all of the cynicism I have about politicians I should remind myself that some will say just about anything. Yet somehow I do believe he meant what he said, and I think most Americans will too.

  • For many years the Democrats gave the election away by choosing the wrong candidates. In Bill Clinton and Barack Obama thereis a chance for the continuity we need if the country is to continue to move in the right direction. President Clinton was extraordinary as usual and showed the world why we elected him twice–(if only we could have had a third term.) I pray that President Obama does as good a job convincing the public tonight as his wife and President Clinton did. Good luck Mr. Presidents!

  • cbxray

    “In Tampa, the Republican argument against the President’s re-election was pretty simple:
    This is a mis-quote. Clinton said “pretty snappy”. Please correct this as snappy is much better.

  • 13observer

    Your Democratic party said it all last night. God will take care of the rest!

  • 13observer

    Yes Obama…sure… put it back before it becomes a liability for us in November….flash…too late Mr Obama, America has you figured out and that “window dressing” last night came too little, too late!

    • 130, brilliant thou are. You are not allowed to use the “we”. You can not say America as I am a proud American who doesn’t believe a word you say. I am an American, not a party. My country comes first.

  • wow

  • 13observer

    Thanks for the “shoe shine” but a little too late!

  • 13observer

    “One Nation under Obama with liberty and justice for all”. Your new God, this is going viral.

    • jcbsdriver

      Oh for heaven’s sake, Get off the God rant. You keep your God in your church and we’ll keep our God in our church.

  • 13observer

    You mean the part about how most democrats don’t believein GOD? Yes they NAILED it!

  • 13observer

    Really? It sure didn’t look like the deligates they sent to the convention worship GOD….they might worship their God, Barak Obama.

    • If you read your Bible and I am not sure you could understand it if you read it, The Bible advocates a separation of church and state. Jesus said, “Render unto Caesar, that which is Caesar’s and render unto God, that which is God’s.

  • 13observer

    I am not afraid as my God goes farther than hope and change……oh…….and I can trust he will KEEP his promises!

  • 13observer

    Hope and change means…….sir, I HOPE you can spare some CHANGE because I been outta work for three years and the taxpayers are tired of paying my unemployment because the President gave my job to an illegal alien!

    • I can see where it might be hard for you to find a job.

    • hilandar1000

      To be able to find a job, you have to pay attention and realize which party is working for you and which is not. If the GOP had their way, your unemployment payments would have ended long before the 3 years was up. Check the voting record on which party voted to extend unemployment payments. While you’re at it, check the records on which party would not even bring up the jobs bill in the House of Representatives after it had passed the Senate.

  • 13observer

    It’s typical of democrats to use the “Jesus” card when they get in a pinch because they are experts in using the “race”, “pity”, “poverty” and “education” cards. The dems want to erase our American culture for a culture of everyone else comming to America and that my friend is what the tea party is all about! Dems piss on our Constitution unless it suits them.

    • 130 te rocket scientist, duh, who is playing the Jesus Card, here and what would Jesus say about your angry hate?

  • 13observer

    The “mark of the beast” is Barak Obama! When he fu*ked Organized Labor, he lost me! E.F.C.A. was a “pipedream” sold to us by Obama…now he wants a second term for what???to work on immigration reform (amnesty) and gun control….no thanks…not with my vote!

    • hilandar1000

      Before you go to the polls and vote Republican, or don’t vote at all, please consider some of the possibilities of a wrong vote in this election.
      Let’s look at this logically and step by step. Let’s say the GOP wins this election — winning the Presidential Race as well as the congressional positions it would take to establish a majority in both the Senate and the House.

      Romney is a CEO. What is the purpose of a CEO? — The only purpose is to figure out a way to earn as much money as possible for the corporation that he runs.

      How does a CEO meet those limitless financial goals? — He employs workers at the lowest wages possible to do the work. The human factor is not of any consideration to him in doing his job. Bottom line financial rewards are his focus.

      How does he get people to work more hours for less money? — By eliminating collective bargaining and shipping jobs overseas to third world countries. Therefore he can have an ample supply of workers who are willing to work for low wages. These workers cannot adequately support themselves and their families on the low wages that are offered to them, even though their work is making a handsome profit for the corporation.
      Safety concerns are of no importance to the corporation, since there is an ample supply of workers to take over the jobs of those who are injured in the workplace, so legislation is introduced to reduce regulations and funding for departments that would enforce existing regulations.

      What does the CEO do to insure a young and able work force? — He outlaws abortion and birth control so that the birth rate is high to supply an endless number of workers to make money for the corporation throughout the years.

      How does he insure that the young and able work force will stay in the low-paying jobs? — He cuts spending for education and controls curriculum contents.

      How does the CEO make sure that only the fittest survive to do the work. — He promotes legislation that places medical care and medical insurance in the hands of corporations, which are, as with all corporations, focused on making the highest profits. He vows to repeal any form of health care legislation that has formerly been enacted, so that the work force cannot get affordable health care. He cuts welfare spending so that sickly and disabled people cannot get any health care at all.

      How does he deal with an aging work force? — He takes control of the monies that have been paid into their retirement health care system and metes out a voucher for medical insurance that is not enough for an older person to purchase health care on their own at an advanced age.

      What is the outcome when that CEO is the president of a country? —
      A concentration of the major wealth of the country in the hands of a small portion of the population as in a very powerful dictatorship (fascism).
      All decisions for a country are made by a small percentage of the people with the most money and influence.
      Small businesses that are successful are bought or forced out of business by larger and larger corporations.
      Workers do not make salaries high enough to purchase property — like their own homes.
      Existing property is bought at reduced prices by corporations.
      Workers have no say in their government and, after a period of a few years, have no knowledge of the workings of their government.
      Workers live in constant submission to the will of the CEO and the needs of the corporation.
      Workers are poorly educated and underpaid.
      A high birth rate
      A high death rate with lowered life expectancy.

      Is this the kind of government you want? — then you’d better check out the 2012 GOP platform, as well as recent legislation proposed by the GOP before making a decision that is in opposition with your own best interests and has the very great potential of presenting an irreversible quagmire of unacceptable circumstances.

      • BDD1951

        AND 130 the kind of government thatHIL has desribed is called, wait for it,
        COMMUNISM.

    • 130, liar, liar, your pants are on fire… Name one instance where President Obama has advocated gun control.

      • 13observer

        Shall we start with Eric Holder and Fast & Furious or perhaps Hilary Clinton working with the U.N. to eliminate our gun rights per their say so. You need to do more research about gun control and who is behind it. Who do you think Eric and Hilary work for?

        • 130, the shining example of a Christian, go back and study the facts. Fast and Furious was tried by President Bush (notice I treat him with respect) and the Bush Administration abandoned it. The idea behind this was to tract illegal gun activity to Mexico and we had the cooperation of the Mexican Government. Obviousy, it didn’t work. However, it wasn’t gun legislation to take away your guns. It was to stop illegal gun trade at gun shows.

          Now, you show me where Secretary, Hiliary Clinton and Eric Holder are advocation gun control. Myself, I don’t understand the gun violence that is rampant in this country. It has nothing to do with the guns. It has to do with the angry hateful mentality of even some people posting on this board. Canada has twice as many guns per capita and 1/10 the gun violence.

    • 130, you have given your religion away. Only one religion taught that African Americans were the mark of cain. And then, in case you missed it, thier leader, at the time, SK had a vision and changed that. However, I do know a lot of people, in that religion who still have residual biases from their teaching.

  • 13observer

    Our country was founded on Christian values. Your GODLESS democrat party would’t understand!

    • neece00

      Christian values are “love thy neighbor” whether that neighbor is a black person or a democrat

    • AMADAL

      Give me a fornicating break. You and the rest of the Repuklican’ts should stop thumping your Bibles and open it up and try reading it if you can. More tax cuts for the richest at the expense of the rest!! Last time I looked, GREED was one of the Seven Deadley Sins. They didn’t create jobs, they kept it and gave themselves raises. And while I’m here, GLUTTONY–another deadly sin–take a look at your darling rising star, Chris Christie. How about KILLING–your take on health care, If they don’t have health insurance, Let Them Die. With your kind of Christianity, all I can say is “Jesus, please come take your people. Make this world a better place for the TRUE Christians.”

    • 130, if your hateful diatribe is an example of Christian values, then I wouldn’t want to be one.

  • howa4x

    The democrats came out swinging. Clinton laid bare the facts about the lies that Romney/Ryan are telling. He is right we are only as strong as a country when all of us rise together. It is a stinging rebuke of the social darwinism that is becoming the cornerstone of the republican philosophy. They want a country of winners and loosers, and want to lavaish benefits heaped on the winners and have a loathing for the loosers. The republicans claim to be the party of god, but their dark vision of America is anything but. They would repeal health care reform and in the primary audience chants of the moral majority that makes up their party yelled let him die when given the senario of a man wheeled into an emergency room with no insurance. The canidates on stage just smiled. Clinton was right,there was at one time decent people made up the republican party, conservative yes but, mean spirited, no. They worked from opposite sides of The isle for the good of the country. A far cry from the republicans of today who sat by and watched the economic meltdown, millions loosing their jobs, the car industry in collaspe, the forclousure crisis growing, 50,000/yr people dying with no insurance, and did absoulutely nothing, because they didn’t want to give Obama a win. 26 states in severe drought but they still think climate change is a hoax.
    Clinton called them out on that, and showed the folley of more tax cuts for those who need it least, while taking from those that need it the most, blowing a hole in the deficit they claim is such a threat. Clinton also laid out how Obama tried to compromise and was rebuffed.
    The republicans allowed a coup in their party by angry people with no real plan. People like Palin who see the problems in a simplistic way. Now the moderates will be driven out of the party of Lincoln, leaving people whose only answer to all our problems is no. If there is any reason to re elect the president it is that, the other choice is to turn back the clock to a time when white men ruled, and answered to no one!

  • 13observer

    Obama is your God, it’s obvious after last night!

    • BDD1951

      Stop you stupidity.

  • Truth bounces off a republican supporters back like water off a duck’d back.A built in firewall to the truth. Sadly,and unfortunately for the country,they are the most ignorant among us, believing the republican lies and deceit,that’s how they get elected.With a fraud ,Trojan Horse ,Ryan plan , where the the math doesn’t add up, further enriching the rich on the backs of the poor and what’s left of the middle class.Causing ,and then blocking Obama’s attempts to get us out of the ditch the republicans drove us into.With the continued taxpayer subsidies to the rich oil companies.and freezing the minimum wage for ten years .No amount of lies can cover their actions. Add Swiss and Cayman Islands tax dodging in the mix and you wonder what it takes to convince the dummies who STILL ,no mater the proof, support the republicans .Can people e THAT dumb and stupid?The answer is yes and the country is paying for it.

  • If you want to be a better person, pray for your President (Obama). This is God’s plan, your plan will fail because you are full of hatrade

  • No wonder the Republicans impeached this guy — they knew they couldn’t survive his clear and eloquent truth telling! I hope all the undecided were listening. As for President Obama — four more years!

    • Jesse, when President Clinton was governor of Arkansas, he signed the Civil Rights Bill for that state. After that, the made concerted effort to destroy him. His big mistake was allowing himself to be seduced. Then, as no gentleman would do, he refused to tell the tale and thus lied to save the face of Delilah. These were mistakes. A lot of government money and effort was spent trying to oust him.

  • frharry

    Virtually every speaker last night made reference to the divine. I have no idea what denunciation you refer to here. What strikes me is that you would probably be unwilling to recognize that many of us who are people of faith could so fervently support a Democratic Party which practices the Golden Rule (We’re all in this together) rather than the American version of the same: Him who has the gold makes the rules and those who don’t, “You’re on your own.”
    As Rabbi Hillel put it so brilliantly 2000 years ago, “If I am not for myself, who will be for me? But if I am only for myself, what am I?”

  • frharry

    RE: 130 Observer’s comment (Obama is your God..Your party doesn’t believe in GOD!!!!)

    What a petulant, juvenile response. Seriously.

    • frharry, I think he probably is about 14. If not, he sure is a case of arrested development.

      • TheSkalawag929

        I’m sure he’ll swear he has never been arrested in his life. 😉

  • Verarta

    EXCELLENT SPEECH BY THE GREATEST WORLD STATESMAN ALIVE

    – By Alban Dega, Chairman of Albanian American Democratic Club in New York

    Why!? Because Bill Clinton told the truth, only the truth and nothing but the truth. Facts, facts and facts …. not lies, not new lies to cover and embellish the old lies as Romney and Ryan, like the GOP do every day!
    This is the reason why Clinton speech touch the minds, she soul and the hearts of every US Citizen, of every human being in the World.
    No lies ! No hate! No speculations!
    Love, friendship, brotherhood among all US people!
    “Liberté, égalité, fraternité!” , French for “Liberty, equality, fraternity (brotherhood)”, was, is and should be the national motto of USA and the entire World!
    This was, is and would be the engine of progress and prosperity for our great country and the entire World !
    God Bless you Bill Clinton! I have cried when I have listen you speech last night! It was a proud cry for your great message transmitted in the best possible way, in a Clinton outstanding style for all us !
    “ Tungjatjeta ( in Albanian ) Have a Long Life Mr. Bill Clinton!

  • Excellent speech by President Clinton. All of the speeches on Tuesday and Wed. were very good, but Clinton’s speech clarified all the lies the GOP has been saying about President Obama.
    Thank you President Clinton.

  • Ed

    To Lyin Ryan and Mittens: YOU LIE!!!!

  • Clinton was simply great last night. He has a unique perspective from which to draw upon and most voters in either party know that. Who better to pass judgment on the numerous lies which charactize the republican platform. When Obama wins a 2nd term he will owe a big vote of thanks to Bill Clinton for his inspirational performance at the convention.

  • canovan

    His speech was eloquent and convincing. President Clinton was one of America’s greatest presidents. No one knows better than he how unfair the Republicans can be!
    ~j. vanhollebeke, canovanograms art

  • A total difference between the two conventions ….the Republicans looked childish and mean-spirited. The Democrats were intellectually focused on their message. The choice is obvious.

  • ayayaboy

    Democrats have had only six presidents since America’s history, and Republicans have produced/ruled for the rest of American history. Six Demoratic presidents created over 42 million jobs, while the Republican presidents who ruled America for the rest of American history created all together about 24 million jobs only. Obama has created over 250,000 jobs only in Auto Industry; and Obama also has created over 3 million jobs within two – three years in office. Healthcare that every president avoided, Obama took the risk and took a stand for ordinary people and applauded by the conservative Supreme Court. Obama regulated Wall Street; gave equal pay to women; repealed “Don’t ask, don’t tell”; Obama came out bold to back Gay marriage; and saved American Economy from falling off the cliff. All Romney did was dodge taxes; fire people and made $20,000 dollars per victim; shipped jobs overseas; laundered money offshore to avoid taxes; still managing Bain secretly but claiming he was retired just to dodge taxes.

  • Computer problem…sorry for the re-send

  • I am of the opinion that after that speech, Pres Obama wanted to vote for Clinton; Like it was said, He addressed all the issues that the Obama Administration has fail to do. Hip hip Hoooooray.

  • The Big Dog was AWESOME!!! He kicked B**TT!! They have no one to compare with him and the guy they run up the pole for 8 yrs is no where to be found!! Got to hide that guy!

  • Fact: the 8 years before Clinton the debt quadruple during Clinton 8 years the budget was balanced 4 straight and left a surplus for Bush who squander it and doubled the debt. Now that’s a Fact that even Faux News can’t dispute!!!!

  • Melvin Chatman

    I’m Praying he’s OK today – he was “shaking” during the Speech and he has Health issues.
    He was “Felling It” last night as he “Opened Up a Can of…….” on the entire GOP!
    He answered a very important question, “Who Let The Dogs Out?” – and the Bite was worse than the Bark!
    Hoping that Obama took some notes from BUBBA the real “Junk Yard Dog”
    Maybe the Democratic Party has finally grown a SPINE this week – Maybe?

  • Dominick, you are right and exact. The past three-and-a-half years have been a political nightmare of filibustering, stonewalling, and spreading lies with “voodoo” economics theory. Many people who are not sophisticated investors don’t realize that a big portion of the federal deficit is interest payments due on money borrowed, those 30-year bonds that were issued in 2002 still have 20 more years of semi-annual interest payments. Add all that were issued up through January 2009, figure interes due 30-years out. By the time President Obama was sworn into office on January 20, 2009, the projected budget deficit for fiscal 2009, Mr. Bush’s last budget = $1.3 trillion, the largest in history, and due to the weakened economy, the decline in revenue caused by 8.5 million job losses, the annual deficit was projected to remain at least at $1.3 trillion annually well into the foreseeable future… until such time as revenues and expenditures would balance-out. Only at that point would we stop adding a trillion plus a year to our debt, but we would still be stuck with the tab and interest payments throughthe maturity dates on all those Treasuries. The one chance we have to reverse this trend, “The Jobs Bill” would add revenue by putting Americans back to work thus restoring tax revenues to pre-crisis levels, the republican cabal has steadfastly refused to act on, in the mistaken belief that Americans are so stupid or sound asleep, that they could simply blame everything on Obama and lie their way back into the White House, and that no one would be the wiser. Bill Clinton, the Good Ole Country Boy from Arkansas, dispelled that notion. He taught them simple “Arithmetic” last night. He exposed their hair-brained scheme for what it is… Unworkable and Dead-on-Arrival!

  • Bill Clinton was superb, He gave a flawless masterful speech that I believe will sway the independents, as well as most undecided voters to move in the direction to re-elect President Obama.

    If racism and bigotry from the ignorant was not in play in this election, President Obama would win by a land slide.

    President Obama, is a good man thats the best choice to lead our Nation into the 21st century.

    His policies are rooted in the idea that all hard working Americans should have a level playing field, in order to succeed. And it’s a great idea which made this country the best in the world.

    C.G.

  • 13observer

    All workers have to do is get their balls out of their Levis and organize a UNION in their workplace!!!! The problem we are having is our workforce doesn’t think UNION anymore , they would rather take up for those trying to get out of work which is what the democratic party supports along with illegal aliens. The Dems no longer support the middle class or working people but rather allow foreigners to compete with our unemployed in hopes they will vote democrat. Everyone wants to LEGISLATE a labor agreement but it must be NEGOTIATED through a UNION. Please understand that workers get the “shaft” because they don’t UNIONIZE!

  • 13observer

    What does “black” have to do with it? Or are you trying to “race-bait”?

  • 13observer

    The anti-God platform of the democrats exposed last night killed Obama’s chances at re-election.

  • 13observer

    Democrats….party of the poor! That’s why Obama can’t get out of our economic rut….he runs the country like poor people would….if they were so smart….why are they poor?

  • Abusfix

    I heard that Obama’s speech tonight has
    been moved indoors. This Out of concern
    for the safety of the delegates.
    I don’t blame them with the lies being told
    at this convention, I would be worried
    About lightning to.

    • Dave_dido

      I don’t know if there was any lightning in Tampa last week, but there sure was a lot of wind!

  • 13observer

    Really? I am as DEEP IN the democratic party as it gets and most of what I hear is disbelief of ANY God with the exception of what CANDIDATE happens to be running as a democrat.

  • 13observer

    Always the dems “easy answer”…..just another excuse to be Godless. I don’t care if you believe or not…just don’t erase Christian values or celebrations surrounding Christ.

  • 13observer

    So then…how can you DEMAND the rich pay more in taxes?

  • Excellent speech and he told it like a college professor talking to a college class. Everyone should listen to his speech and get the truth, which the other side didn’t tell. Clinton put 2 and 2 together and got the numbers, which the other side didn’t. I have the utmost respect for both Obama and Clinton because they tell the truth. You would think that a Mormon and tea partier would too. Anyway, Obama has my vote. So far the DNC has been great and I definitely take Clinton over Eastwood who totally disrespected both sides. Register and vote. Its important to our country and the future of our kids.

  • YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT. DEFINATELLY….. BILL KILLED (EM) ON NATIONWIDE TV through their lies right back in their faces with the word lease known to them, the TRUTH. HE CALLED ALL THE LIARS OUT WITHOUT EVEN USING THE WORD. Also, this morning one Rep tried to say, “Well, we still don’t know how he will governed and if he will be like Elizabeth Warren.” WHAT I WITH! She NAILED their Arses down to the bone. LOVED IT. Go Elizabeth and Go POTUS OBAMA 2012.

  • rockcut

    Ditto Clinton brought down the house and he took the GOP to the Woodshed of TRUTH.

  • 13observer

    I have a good UNION job….something the democrats only claim to support!

  • 13observer

    If you are an “American”…do you believe illegal aliens should be allowed to compete with our UNEMPLOYED Americans?

  • 13observer

    If your party is so proud of its Godless platform, then keep bragging about it until November 6th.

  • 13observer

    Last night at the convention the whole country heard the party official trying to get a “yea” to put God back in the platform with the majority opposing!

  • 13observer

    I am not unemployed…I have a good UNION job. Remember the UNIONS? The democratic party has forgotten UNIONS and is the party of the poor…trying to legislate rather than negotiate working conditions and compensation. If the dems could leave GUNS, GOD, welfare and amnesty for illegal aliens alone…they might get some folks back, but with the attacks on our Constitution and such…it is doubtful.

    • Dave_dido

      If you are truly a union worker and you support the GOP then you are a fool. If the GOP could have their way they’d break every union in the country. Then you’d be working for lower wages and no benefits.
      You are totally mistaken about the Dems and welfare. Bill Clinton worked hard to get workfare passed. President Obama has supported workfare from day one. He gave some state governors an exemption from the workfare law but only if they came up with a plan that could be proven to show better results for returning welfare recipients to work.
      As for illegal aliens, it is mostly businessowners and farmers who want them here for the cheap labor they offer. Don’t try to pin their presence in the U.S. on the Dems.The Dems just want them to be treated humanely once they have been brought here, but it’s the Republicans who open the door for them by offering them jobs.(I am admittedly making a very big assumption that most businessowners and farmers are Republicans. I am open to correction on this matter if someone has the statistics.)

    • 130, Which local and what union?

  • How you know that William J. Clinton’s speech last night was really effective is the GOP’s pathetic response to it: GOP BS, hypocrisy, talking points, deflections and distortions…which followed previous GOP BS, hypocrisy, talking points, deflections and distortions. When you abandon the truth, as the GOP did at least a dozen years ago, BS, hypocrisy, talking points, deflections and distortions are all you have to try and get incredibly stupid poor and middle-class white people to vote for you. I’ve run the numbers….if the report I heard about 25 million GOP moderates leaving the party to mostly become Democrats or Independents is true, Mittens the Liar Rmoney and Eddie Munster are toast. So are many of the “downballot” candidates, as well.
    One GOP strategist, Alex Castellanos, wrote last night that Clinton’s speech clinched President Obama’s re-election.
    HOWEVER….now is not the time to rest on your laurels, Democrats (I’m a Progressive Non-Affiliated voter, BTW)… starting tomorrow, the GOP and the anti-Democrat Super Pacs are going to unleash a highly and brutally dishonest flood of negative ads to try and counteract the truth. DON’T BE FOOLED! Expect the anti-Democrat ads, especially those against President Obama, to be especially nasty and brutally dishonest. Again: KNOW THE TRUTH!
    Finally: whether you’re a Republican, Democrat, Independent or whatever party (or not) you belong, the most important thing to do is VOTE! Although Election Day is 6 November, 2012, some early voting has already started! VOTE! Make your voice be heard…the GOP have went on a campaign to disenfranchise the rights of people to vote (most of whom who happen to vote Democrat; what a coincidence!-smh)…so long as the GOP want to take that right away from you, you should stick it to them for making the attempt…the truth is that the GOP are populated with extremist and ignorant idiots….don’t reward that by voting for them!

  • Abusfix

    Moving the Obama speech indoors is
    probably the best thing for safety
    concerns because with all the lies being told at this DNC convention I would be worried about lightning to.

  • Abusfix

    I was watching something real. The NFL.
    Just like most Americans.
    Only thing worth watching last night

  • Dave_dido

    I think Bill Clinton did a fantastic job last night. No one in the political arena today is better at stating the national issues in a simple, understandable way. Did anyone notice that he did not address marriage or abortion or any social issues but stuck to what he knows matters- the economy?
    Bill Clinton and Pres. Obama both have something that Romney and Ryan can only wish for- it’s called charisma. It doesn’t matter whether Clinton is speaking “off the cuff” or if Obama is using a teleprompter. They have a gift for public speaking and this is the single most important quality any candidate for public office needs. The ancient Greeks and Romans considered rhetoric as an essential skill for anyone who hoped to rise in society. Last night we saw a modern day master of rhetoric and I think tonight we’ll see one who is very, very good.
    Of course it also helps that Clinton and Obama hold beliefs and values shared by working class people.They not only have something to say, they also have something to offer. Romney and Ryan are hampered by having nothing to offer to anyone except to the 1%ers and the right wing extremists. The Republican Party had better address this issue soon or they’re looking at bleak prospects in the future. They’ll make a race of it this time by capitalizing on the racism which is still strong in the U.S., but for how long can they hold that tack?

  • Oh! Yes We Can, again,and again. I haven’t been having any luck with money, my son has lost his unemployment. Everything is place upon me, into awkward situation….I would loved to seat aside our first lady..I dream and hope someday in the near future these plans would of being carrired out… I were present in spirit, well-as not in flesh. President Obama, you will deliver concerning your speech. Our former President Clinton,and your wife, were right on point… Love you, don’t forget my words that were given for our country to continued believing in the time for a change. We are the people’s Yes, Yes, We, Can….Alice J.

  • 13observer

    The issue God has to do with politics is that the dems will never pass up an oportunity to erase GOD in public view even though this great country was born of strong Christian values and a majority of Americans want that culture to remain without constant attacks by the dems.

    • grammyjill

      listen you. I use to be a sunday school teacher and I am a democrate. I have watched both conventions. I have not ONCE heard anyone try to erace GOD from anything. Turn up your hearing aid.

      • Grammy, I used to be a Sunday School Teacher, too. And I support Obama.

  • R.

    “GO BILL!!” Today I have not listened to “right wing talk radio” but can imagine, Rush and Shawn crying about what Clinton had to say. It is only to true that the republicans have from the very beginning of Obama’s term in office, as they did with Clinton, worked to make him look bad. In the end Clinton although “impeached” came out the “winner” not the “right wing wacko’s” like Gingrich and the like who wanted nothing more than to make Clinton “the bad guy.” Rush began the salvo with “I want him to fail”, speaking of Obama, right after the man was sworn in.
    Mitt and Ryan will be sorry they ever mentioned Clinton in a other than favorable light. The Clinton “machine” is now rolling and will roll over Mitt and Ryan, two of the worse candidates the republicans could ever have chosen. Well except for the woman from Alaska, (what was her name?) and that other guy last election.

    GO OBAMA IN 2012!!!!

  • nomaster

    I’ve never been much for parties but Clinton is definitly the statesman when he comes to decisive politics whichever party he would belong to him. Excellant, prescise to the point what more can you ask.

  • gregv2k

    Absolutely everything we could have hoped for from a political speech – actually made politics seem exciting again. Not to mention, understandable. Only Bubba could have made 48 minutes seem too short. It actually makes me think President Obama is going to kill tonight – he watched the Big Dog slam dunk it from the side of the stage and he asked himself, “I’ve got to follow this?” Follow it he will, and if history (i.e., the famous race speech) is any indicator, he’s going to deliver one of the best speeches of his career. Can not wait.

  • 13observer

    My friend I am not a GOP supporter, I am a seasoned UNION organizer but not in lock step with democrats as they care little about organized labor. Obama said to us he would DELIVER E.F.C.A….he did not but rather pushed the healthcare. As for the illegal aliens….try to organize them sometime! They are here to take jobs….not to join UNIONS… because they are then somehow disloyal to their employer whom they depend on for employment to send money to their “offshore” bank accounts in Mexico while living off our welfare (competing with our own). These people are NOT supposed to be here by LAW….what makes them so special? They are brought here by the lure of GOVERNMENT WELFARE….free education, tuition, food stamps drivers liscence, hand outs, bleeding heart liberals, free healthcare, anchors for their babies…..don’t tell me what Obama has done for labor allowing illegals to stay! The dems use organized labor for a “rubber stamp” at election time, then turn around and fu*k us first chance they get. They blame the rich for not paying enough taxes when in fact they pay more than you and I ever will. Taxation is just another way of STEALING from one to pay for another. You said if the GOP had their way they would break every UNION in the country…..only if we let them…..but that would mean we would all have to UNIONIZE….that is the protection against corporate greed but everyone wants to discount organized labor and HOPE FOR CHANGE, translation….(HOPE someone has some spare CHANGE). We will grow our economy by working UNION jobs and NEGOTIATING wages and benefits…not LEGISLATING them!

    • Ok Dems count on labor union votes. GOP Reaganomics Bush 1-2 have been deregulating- busting unions for 30 yrs Gov Walker in Wis Many GOP Gov’s want all states to be Right to work for Less states Low pay low benefits. Good jobs overseas . Bagger run GOP counts on ‘ Citizens United UN limited secret cash Fox Hannity Rush and 100’s of Rush wannbees on talk radio- Rove Trump-billionaires- crooked corps – massive war machine- Halliburton
      .. Choice is clear Deregulating / corp suck ups – or Obama who has tried and tried to pass job bills but GOP blocks filibusters, stalls so Obama fails
      2016 Hillary or another real Dem US can not take anymore GOP far right extreme policies- judges- wars – debt- Obama got stuck with worst crash since 1929 wars based on lies- lack of regulation- huge debt- corp cuts- loopholes- sinking middle class

  • Tokopol

    Wow, 13observer and Abusfix are awfully bitter about Democratic success tonight — so much so that *they can’t even mention Clinton.* They’re so bitter that they’re pretending to be undecided voters to convince us that people actually cared about that pointless platform rhubarb in the morning, the rescheduling of the final night that 65,000 tickets were already sold for, or the replacement referees that people were supposedly watching instead.

    Let me explain a couple of things. First of all, God is IN the Democratic platform — at the personal behest of President Obama — so deal with that. Second of all, Clinton’s speech PASSED the examination of fact-checkers, and he still hit a grand slam even though HALF OF IT WAS AD-LIBBED! If that doesn’t remind you that Clint Eastwood screwed the pooch last Thursday, you’re in another dimension.

    Over-the-hill Clint Eastwood ad-libbing a rambling dialogue with an empty chair, while Rhodes Scholar Bill Clinton ad-libs a total evisceration of the entire GOP, piece by piece. What a contrast, eh? Probably not the one you wanted, though… Well, heck, if I was a Republican right now, I’d be grasping at straws too…

  • Bill Clinton is a great statesman. You gotta love him. He makes me feel like he’s my older brother. His class outweighs his failures. I was delighted to see him again.

  • Very good Bill. A lot of us ex-pat Vets in Europe are grateful. As for Middle Class Taxpayer and 13 Observer. Many of us registered and voting Democrats are practicing Christians, Jews, some Buddhist, other faiths. As an Eucumenical Christian (i.e. worshipping at both a Lutheran and Benedictine Monastery church, I wonder where 13 observer gots his paranoid attitudes that Democrats do not worship and recognize God the Creator, albeit in a different sense than the fundamentalists. hysterically bearig false witness and claiming Democrats do not believe in God and are out to destroy religion. What kind of paranoid “conspiracy theories” are circulating in the U.S.? Worse than the McCarthy period. Thanks Bill! (I am a day younger than you, belated happy 66th birthday. I posted my absentee ballot on my birthday. Straight Democrat ticket, thank you.

    • Kent, he is repeating verbatum what was on faux news.

  • smittyray

    The biggest thing I remember about Clinton is that he had sexual relations with a female intern right in the oval office. Now that is a real statesman for you to brag about, isn’t it.

    • HIS Private life was a shame Politically he is right on the money Plus Left a huge surplus that Bush squandered on long wars based on lies- fear- huge – corp perks- tax cuts- sent jobs overseas w/ more cuts

    • Smitt or should that be smutt? When Clinton lied, no one died.

  • rustacus21

    As the former President said, Republicans only justification for wanting to replace President Obama was that he didn’t clean up the mess “THEY” left him, fast enuff. So many facts. So much statistics. It’s no wonder conservatives have trouble w/reality & Democracy. 42 million (Democratic) vs. 24 million (Republican) jobs; Extending the longevity of Medicare/Medicaid (Prez. Obama) to 2025 vs. ending the programs & replacing them w/vouchers in 2016 (Romney); creating educational opportunities for K-12, higher ed & displaced/aspiring (for greater economic mobility) workers vs. leaving every American to fend for themselves, in a dynamic & changing world environment. I often accuse conservatives of misunderstanding Democracy, economics & civil society, but only Bill Clinton could encapsulate the whole of that argument in such a short time & make it completely digestible to even a fool. Well, maybe not taking it that far… But the point being that what he & President Obama inherited was catastrophic disasters (more so for Obama) & that in the midst of it isn’t the time for cowardice. In difficult circumstance, its natural to hesitate. But there is NO turning backward. According to Mr. Clinton & President Obama & we Americans who understand, this is what the Romney/Ryan ticket offer. There will be no moving forward. No jobs. No prosperity. We’ve heard these promises B4. Only 11 short years ago! No transformative technologies to slow or eliminate Climate Change. No affordable education opportunities for the scientists, business people or civic representatives & doctors who will tackle those challenges in future. No balanced budget. Smaller govt at the expense of Democracy. This is what Republicans mean by ‘change’. Clinton showed the way. If we want to get there, we have to trust ourselves & entrust 4 more years to President Obama. The risks are too great to chance & gamble just b/c conservatives hate him (for no reason – or the most OBVIOUS reason). The choice is clearly does America do for the 100% of us or just the 1%? Its too late for indecision, given the facts we have…

  • I think Bill Cllinton did what he had to do to convince America that what the Republicans have been doing is lying or distorting the record of President Obama. Most of us knew that the Pres. inherited a mess from the Republicans and now they want to take over and create another mess. I also learned that more jobs were created during the Democratic rule of the White House. That is remarkable. The facts speak for themselves.

  • rustacus21

    … w/a an eye 2ward what’s real in the world, the media is corporate. If we can agree on that, we can see who the media prefers (no pressure on Romney re: his absent tax returns) & who its castigates (‘implying’ Obama will get no ‘bounce’ from his convention appearance), makes it pretty clear their conservative slant has directly contributed to confusion expressed in current polling. This contest should already be over, as Romney AND Ryan are obviously in WAY over their heads. W/doubt inundating all their reporting, why else would Americans be so confused? Unnecessarily at that!??!

  • onedonewong

    when fact checked it was an unmitigated disaster. Poor Bill he doesn’t’ understand that his speech would have that happen

  • ridemybroom

    Thank you Bill….

    HEY SOUTH CAROLINA………ISNT IT TIME FOR NIKKI HALEY TO GO !!!!!!!!!

  • Clinton is an amazing man and brain with a heart and the know-how to get things done. If they had not had term limits, he would still be in office I believe. I love him and with all the faults the naysayers bring up to discredit him, he surely was one of the best presidents, in my estimation, we had. I hope they eventually give him the Nobel Peace Prize because he well deserves it. Obama received the NPP because he jetted all over the country extending an olive branch to every dictator or president for peace. That was wisdom to do that and I hope things work in his favor. I would love for Hillary to follow Obama in 2016, or a law that could put Mr. Clinton back in … I doubt that it would happen, but he is truly a man that knows what he is doing.

  • Eleanore Whitaker

    The Republican women remaining in the GOP are unseasoned and mostly political handmaidens of their GOP lords. The GOP lost their very best female politicians in just the past 8 years.

    Republicans are men, not women. This is why only in the Republican party do you see less of a head count of females than men.

    As for a female President or VP, we all saw what they did to Geraldine Ferrara and Hillary Clinton. Once you understand that Grover Norquist, Karl Rove and Ralph Reed have other plans for this country, you see why the Republicans will NEVER and I do mean NEVER allow a woman to run for the presidency. Palin and Bachmann are the GOP versions of “women”…two shrill mouthed harpies who can’t hold a candle to the real GOP women they lost Kaye Bailey Hutchinson, Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins.

    • Eleanore, You said it well – “two shrill mouthed harpies.”

  • It is about time the Democrats stood up. They were way too polite in the past and chose not to dignify lies with an answer.

  • TheOldNorthChurch

    Very disappointing numbers today. The number who stopped looking 368,000.

    The two prior months were revised downward by 41,000.

  • CassandraSays

    Call me when you can make such a list of women leaders who did not inherit the position from their husbands or fathers.

  • Message th middleclasstaxpayer (like he or she is the onlyone), you are truly a hypocrite by evauating a speech you did not even listen to. You were merely regurgitating the previously digested stuff (common name feces) that faux news put out. The philosophy that I live by is “Greed and Ignorance are the two greatest sins and greed feeds off ignorance. If you are still middle class then maybe you don’t fall into the greed category.

    An extremely wealthy man from England bought newspapers, television and radio. He has already said his goal is to make his media right wing. This same man is being investigated on two continents. One for illegal wiretapping on the families of 9-11 victims so he can get a good story. His U.S. television station is not known for its veracity.

    Now, as for your pious mein, if an angel appeared to you and told you to vote for Obama you would give up your religion. You are certainly not a Christlike person. You judge because the Democrats were not praying in public that they might be seen of men.

  • 13observer

    When Hilary couldn’t get the American people to support more gun legislation after her trip to Mexico and meeting with Fox about all the guns coming from America supposedly fueling all the drug cartel violence at the border……..then the administration came up with this plan to prove to the American public that everything should be blamned on U.S. gun owners. After the embarrasing episode that end with the death of a U.S. Border Patrol Agent and others……Hilary has now engaged herself in using the United Nations to procure a “U.N. Small Arms Treaty” that gives RULING JURISDICTION over our Second Amendment RIGHTS with no consideration of law abidding gun owners when Mr. Obama has given “AMNESTY” to 1.3 million “LAW BREAKERS” whom we know nothing about their backgrounds but are allowed to roam about our population of the unemployed.

  • 13observer

    What I’m saying has nothing to do with Obama being African-American because he is not!!! He is an”AMERICAN”. In my world there is no African, Mexican, Asian – American…no prefix. If you were born here “LEGALLY” then you are an AMERICAN, But that AMERICAN BARAK OBAMA still fu*ked Organized Labor!