By Joe Conason

Conflicts? Deficits? Why Reporters Ignore The Real Story Of The Clinton Foundation

August 19, 2013 1:18 am Category: Memo Pad, Politics 178 Comments A+ / A-
Conflicts? Deficits? Why Reporters Ignore The Real Story Of The Clinton Foundation

The mere prospect of Hillary Rodham Clinton running for president again is evidently provoking outrage among old adversaries – from Rush Limbaugh and Fox News to Maureen Dowd – whose appetite for bogus “Clinton scandals” will never be sated. With the fizzling of Benghazi after an official State Department probe found no wrongdoing by the former Secretary of State, her critics have moved on, casting a gimlet eye on the charitable foundation built by her husband, the former president, over the past decade. Although Hillary has mostly been very busy elsewhere, the foundation provides an ample target for speculation and spite — s0 long as critics ignore what it actually does for people around the world.

When the New York Times assigned two reporters to examine the finances and administration of the Clinton Foundation, which recently added the names of Hillary and daughter Chelsea to its official title, the results were all too predictable: a front-page article ominous in tone, rife with insinuations and gossip, and distorted by major errors. Such is the habit of the newspaper of record, where the phony Whitewater “scandal” originated in a similarly flawed story more than two decades ago. That journalistic disgrace, spurred forward by dozens of Times editorials and op-ed columns, distracted the nation for years, harmed many innocent people besides the Clintons, and cost the Treasury more than $50 million — a troubling episode for a great newspaper.

Now the Times is suggesting that the Clinton Foundation, a charitable organization responsible for saving and improving millions of lives every year, has been financially mismanaged and misused for personal enrichment, among other problems. And those accusations have been amplified not only by the Clintons’ traditional enemies on the Republican right, who mortally fear a Hillary 2016 electoral juggernaut, but in a rather deranged column by Dowd as well.

The article that the Times published on Aug. 13 jumbled together a string of alleged concerns and anonymous accusations, largely lacking in substance.  The story indicated, for example, that Douglas J. Band, former counselor to President Clinton who has since left the foundation to build a consulting firm, is guilty of serious conflicts of interest – without specifying a single actual conflict.

A number of companies impressed by Band’s creation and management of the Clinton Global Initiative — one of the premier venues for corporate social responsibility on the planet today — have hired his firm to advise them. He has also apparently persuaded companies to support CGI with money and other commitments. Exactly how did such activities compromise CGI or the Clinton Foundation, or harm anyone at all? Readers would find no clear answer in the Times. Instead, its reporters dished out unflattering, largely irrelevant anecdotes about Band and Ira Magaziner, whose work at the Clinton Health Access Initiative has provided vital drugs, tests, and medical services to millions of patients across Africa and around the world.

Furthermore, someone told the Times reporters that Band and Magaziner had quarreled about various issues. Plainly, the notion that personal or professional conflict might occur in a worldwide organization with thousands of employees shocked the Times. (But when similarly nasty and pointless newsroom gossip about Jill Abramson erupted in Politico, the top Times editor and her friends felt deeply offended.)

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  • Dominick Vila

    The reason so many ultra-conservatives hate the Clintons is not because they have done anything wrong, but because of their personal successes and their contributions to the United States. The ability of a man of humble beginnings to rise to the pinnacle of success and put in place policies that produced the first budget surplus in modern history and created 23 million jobs in the process is poison to Republican orthodoxy and their dismal record. I doubt most people capable of rational thinking will give too much credence to the fabricated scandals attributed to Hillary Clinton, especially Benghazi. There is no evidence to support the claims of wrongdoing attributed to her on the Benghazi issue, unless of course we decide to blame incumbents for acts of terrorism, in which case 9/11/01, 12 attacks against U.S. diplomatic facilities, and hundreds of terrorist attacks against our interests and allies overseas are taken into consideration, investigated, and the culprits face the same level of scrutiny the Obama administration has been subjected to. The death of four Americans was, indeed, a tragedy, but so was the death of over $3,000 American civilians, 4,000 U.S. troops killed and tens of thousands maimed during a war declared to benefit a few at the expense of many…and bankrupting our Treasury in the process.

    • RobertCHastings

      The well was poisoned with the Monica Lewinsky scandal and Whitewater. More Republicans in Congress suffered negative effects from their attempts to oust Clinton than Democrats. Just look at what happened to Newt Gingrich and Bob Livingston, along with several other prominent Republicans whose backgrounds were seriously explored- Henry Hyde, the House member from Illinois(?) who was shown to have an illegitimate child from his twenties. The Republicans have still not recovered their composure from the Nixon Watergate scandal (initiated, interestingly, by ANOTHER icon of the newspaper industry).

      • Fern Woodfork

        Plus None Of Their So Called Scandals When Anywhere!! The GOP/Tea Party Just Wasted Our Hard Earn Tax Dollars On Looking For The Boogie Men, When We Know For Sure The GOP/Tea Party Are The Boogie Men!!!!! :-(

        • idamag

          Bullying the Clintons started in Arkansas, when Governor Clinton signed the Civil Rights Act. They tried everything. When he became president, they ramped it up. Each scandal they started went nowhere. Even though I am apolitical, I would like to warn any Democrat in office. Don’t ever be alone with anyone. President Clinton erred when he allowed himself to be seduced. If you look at what happened it seems obvious. A young woman, alone with the president, sidles up to him and asks him if he wants to feel her new thong underwear. He does. His bad. He gets aroused and she gives him a bj, making sure she gets semen on her dress. Then she calls a secretary (Linda Trypp) and gives her a play-by-play description of the incident, telling her where her blue dress is hanging. All of this was taped. It was a calculated thing and might happen to other Democrats if they let their guard down.

          • FredAppell

            That was the thanks he got for bringing Arkansas kicking and screaming out of the Dark Ages into the 20th century. I guess conservatives enjoy swinging from trees.

          • RobertCHastings

            The Civil Rights Act was signed in 1964 by President Lyndon Johnson, years before Clinton even got into politics. Yes, it became obvious to a lot of people that the Republicans were well aware of Clinton’s weakness, and it could very easily have been a setup. Thankfully, the attempt to impeach failed and several top-ranking Republicans felt the fallout from their own misdeeds.

          • tax payer

            Reminds me of most woman I dated in the past 30 years. Why do they always want to show us that they don’t have any underwear on? Boy, you sure know how to get to the point ( it almost aroused me ) by reading your comment. Have you ever thought of being a writer? Just kidding!

        • Ed

          Fernie, Fernie Wood Cock, you pathetic excuse for a talking toilet, when, oh when, are you planning to do something about your poor command of the English language?
          Don’t you realize that even the most liberal “posters” to this forum LAUGH at your grammatical mistakes, your defective (to put it mildly) logic, and your foul mouth (plus the fact that you mindlessly capitalize every word)?!
          They do, Fernie, they secretly make fun of you. But each and every one is afraid of your stupid tongue lashings so they fake respect and reply to your moronic posts ….
          Get a life, Fernie !! LOL !!

          • Sand_Cat

            Speaking of moronic posts…

          • Fern Woodfork

            LOL Just Another Pussy Ass Tea Bagging Koch Brothers Ass Sucking Troll!!! LOL Pucker Up And Kiss It Bitch!!!

          • Ed

            Fernie Wood Cock:
            1) You have to be a man; NO WOMAN can bring herself to utter the incredible (but pathetic) obscenities that come out of that BRAINLESS head of yours.
            2) I repeat: Don’t you realize that even the most liberal “posters” to this forum LAUGH at your grammatical mistakes, your defective (to put it mildly) logic, and your foul mouth (plus the fact that you mindlessly capitalize every word)?!
            They do, Fernie, they secretly make fun of you.

            3) Each and every one is afraid of your stupid tongue lashings so they fake respect and reply to your moronic posts ….
            4) In reality, NOBODY takes you seriously, Fernie, NOBODY !!
            5) I have a problem deciding if you are UGLIER than you are BRAINLESS or if you are more STUPID than you are UGLY…
            6) You, WoodCock, are even UGLIER on the inside !

            Again, get a life, Fernie; at least try !!
            LOL !!!

          • Fern Woodfork

            Just Like Your Mother Is A Man Little Bitch!! Nobody Is Afraid Of Me Pucker Up Little Bitch And Kiss It!!! TROLL !! I Got A Life A Great One At That!! It’s You Who Needs To Find Yourself Some Business BitchBoy!!

          • Ed

            Fernie, you ass-mouthed insignificant bitch:
            I am not, as you so fearfully say, “Worried About You”; I just enjoy watching a turd like you ranting and raving.
            I think (no, I am SURE) you are CRAZY, INSANE and THAT’S the reason why so many assholes on this cesspool of liberals make you think they read and respect your stupid, mindless, BRAINLESS rants ….
            Get a life, you worthless, POS.

          • Fern Woodfork

            Poor Pussy Ass Punk Bitch Just Can’t Get Me Out Of Your Head Huh!!! Sad Sad Punk Ass Bitch LMAO LOL DDD Dig Dirt And Die Motherfucker!!!

          • Ed

            Fernie boy: You keep DISGRACING yourself in front of all your libtard “friends”: 95 % of your “post” are words like “Ass”, “Bitch” and “Motherfucker”, all with CAPITAL letters (of course !). The reason for that is not only that you are foul-mouthed (by birth), but that those are the only words you know in your severely limited vocabulary (nurse, my ass !! ha, ha !!).
            In your sorry existence you would just LOVE to have somebody “Praying For (your) Attention”, but that will never be me, you sorry POS.
            I repeat: Get a life and/or go fu** yourself, you pathetic ignorant (male) jerk …
            You make me laugh !

          • Fern Woodfork

            Hey Pussy Ass Bitch Go FUCK YOUR MOTHER LIKE YOU BEEN DOING INBRED!!! And Don’t Forget To Suck Your Father Dick Bitchboy!!! LOL INBRED TROLL!!! LMAO!!

          • Ed

            No, Fernie Boy: You have such a bad memory !
            It is YOU, man, that has been fu***ng your mother (when she is home from the whorehouse) for such a long time, and YOU that has been sucking your father’s d**k when he comes home, every few years, from prison.
            In the meantime, between whorehouse breaks and prison furloughs (that means when they let your father out, Fernie !), you have managed very well to make a perfect mental turd and asshole of yourself, Fernie Boy.
            Tell me something, male prostitute, when will you try to make something of yourself? Even at your very advanced age, you may still make it, …. although I doubt it. Shit will always be shit.

            Want more, Fernie Boy ?

          • Fern Woodfork

            Question?? It’s Kind Of Hard To Type With Your Daddy Dick In Your Mouth Huh!!! Good Bye Bitchboy I Have Another Things To Do Beside Talking To Your INBRED ASS!!! BITCH BYE BYE

          • Ed

            Fernie: You gave up sooo easily !!
            Let me guess; was that because:
            a) You realized you and your writing “skills” (ha, ha, skills!! that’s funnnnnyyy!!) are no match for me?
            b) You realized that, even though the other libtards on this site pretend (hypocrisy, hypocrisy !!) that they like you and respect you, they really, really hate your guts and (secretly) make fun of you and LAUGH at you?
            c) You realized that a man like you, with only a few “words” (dick, slut, motherfucker, bitch) in his “repertoire” (look it up Fern !!) is no match for an intelligent person?
            d) You suddenly noticed that NO ONE came to your “rescue”, and I mean NO ONE !!?
            e) You realized that, although your libtard “friends” on this forum are very afraid of an imbecile like you, I am not?
            f) You finally realized that your posts show, in a very obvious way, that you are totally BRAINLESS?
            g) You finally realized that you are incapable of stringing together more than 6 words that can form a sentence (that is, without resorting to “fuck” or “motherfucker”)?
            h) You realized that even a man with an “average” intelligence like me can make you look like the worthless POS that you are?
            i) You realized that I can play you for the stupid fool you are and that you are so easy to “play”?
            j) ALL OF THE ABOVE, Fernie Boy?
            Want more, Fernie Boy?

            Now go back to your cage and never come back !!

          • Fern Woodfork

            ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz!!!

          • Ed

            Fernie Boy: ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZzzzzzzz!!!!
            That’s the hollow sound of a drill penetrating your empty, BRAINLESS skull !
            LOL !!
            I repeat, Fernie Boy, GET A LIFE !
            Go back to your cage and never come back !
            You see? NOBODY came to your defense, you worthless POS !!

          • Fern Woodfork

            ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!

          • Ed

            Fernie Boy: ZZZZZZZ; again, the sound of the drill as it bores into your EMPTY SKULL, you pathetic excuse for a toilet.
            NONE of your retard friends have come to your assistance, you pathetic POS !
            LOL !!!
            I repeat, Fernie Boy, GET A LIFE !
            Go back to your cage and never come back !

          • Fern Woodfork

            Boring Dick Sucking Bitchboy!! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

          • Ed

            Fernie BOY:
            You see? You ARE an OLD MAN!! I knew it !!
            Fernie, you pathetic excuse for a toilet, none of your retard friends came to your assistance, you pathetic POS !
            Fernie Boy, GET A LIFE !
            Go back to your cage and never come back !

          • Fern Woodfork

            Come Suck My Old Winkle Dick FAGGOT!!

          • Ed

            Fernie BOY:
            You see? You ARE an OLD MAN!! I knew it !!
            Fernie, you pathetic excuse for a toilet, none of your retard friends came to your assistance, you pathetic POS !
            Fernie Boy, I can (and DO !) run rings around you !!
            LOL !!

            Go back to your cage and never come back !

          • Fern Woodfork

            Suck My Dick Bitch!! Your Old Dick Sucking Faggot Ass Can’t Do Shit But Keep Repeating The Same Old Stale Sorry Ass Shit You Been Mouthing Off For Days Now !! You Just A Low Life Dick Sucking FAG!!

          • Ed

            Fernie, old man!
            You are so (pathetically) funny!! I say this because:
            1) I can “play” you sooo well; you keep playing into my hands and every time you do that I punch you in the nose;
            2) I have been able to do what NONE of your fellow retards on this forum has dared to do: to MAKE you admit that you are a man (a complete FAGGOT, but physiologically a man);
            3) By making you admit you are a “man”, I have been able to show and prove that you, my friend, are the pure definition of a FRAUD.
            4) By playing into my hands as obediently and stupidly as you have, you have established the fact that you are a despicable “man”, not because you are a faggot, mind you, but because you are a complete FRAUD, that is: a) you are a “man”, NOT a woman,b) you are NOT and have NEVER been a nurse as you sometimes claim, c) you are a retired slob who utterly lacks the imagination and the good spirit to undertake any kind of voluntary community work in your spare time (that is, ALL your wretched time, Fernie !!); d) You really, really are a despicable person and an abomination who deserves NO respect whatsoever from anybody on this forum or outside of it.
            Again, GET A LIFE, you despicable FRAUD !!!
            I MEAN it, you low life punk !!

          • Fern Woodfork

            What’s The Matter FAGGOT Nobody Stuck Their Dick Inn Your Mouth This Morning?????? You Can Come To My Cave And I Will Stick My Dick In Your Mouth Just Like You Love It Then I Will Take A Shit In It Also!!! Then Your Father Can Stick His Dick In Your Old Winkle Ass!!! KISS MY DICK YOU IGNORANT LOW LIFE FAGGOT AND DON’T FORGET TO SUCK YOUR MOTHER’S DICK FAGGOT!!

          • Ed

            Fernie Faggot:
            Your MOTHER (a whore) is the only one who will suck your sorry (and tiny !) pathetic faggot dickie…
            Drop dead, you idiot.
            Pathetic! A moronic faggot passing himself on this forum as a woman !! What a piece of shit you are, Fernando !!
            LOL !!!

          • Fern Woodfork

            Just Like Your GOP/Tea Party Dumb Ass Party Think People Really Like YOU!! LMAO LOL ROTF!!!!

          • Fern Woodfork

            Who Afraid?? You Flopping Off At The Gums TROLL!! LOL LMAO!!

        • RobertCHastings

          You go, Fern!

    • Fern Woodfork

      Also Clinton Left Office He Pass Bush No Good Ass A Surplus And Bush Screw It All Up!! What Century Did A GOP President Leave Office With A Surplus!!

      • Dominick Vila

        Am I the only one having trouble opening National Memo threads as a result of a long-running script? I am trying to determine if I have a computer problem or if the problem is associated with the NM software.

        • davidfishman2001

          I’m running into the same problem, on three different computers.

          • CPAinNewYork

            No one stole the spotlight from The Great Communicator.

          • BillP

            I have encountered the same problem on my laptop. I usually get a message to stop a running script and then I can access the NM article and comments.

        • Fern Woodfork

          My Guess Is Both!!! :-( Sorry To Hear About That My Friend!!! :-(

        • idamag

          I am having the same problem. I will call someone and ask them about it. It is annoying.

        • Annemb

          Although I’ve had the problem at one point, it’s clear for me now.

          How are you?

          • Dominick Vila

            I am doing fine. Thank you for asking and for the feedback. I thought I was having computer problems and have been running tests, cleaning memory, defragmenting and doing everything possible to determine what is wrong.

          • Annemb

            You are very welcome, Mr. Vila. I’m glad to hear that you’re doing fine.

            I, too, had numerous computer problems. I finally contacted a company that charged me $99 which was fine because the problems were fixed, but I couldn’t afford to pay another $19.99/month each sequential month. I bought Kaspersky Antivirus program which helps me and lasts a year. I need to find where to defragment and clean the memory of my computer. I could do it before, but with Windows XP I can’t seem to find it.

            Blessings and take care…

        • Billie

          Me. too.

        • Lovefacts

          My computer has constant problems with National Memo’s script. I no longer allow it to run the long scripts.

        • old_blu

          Yeah it’s hard for me to even get a good rant in, LOL.
          Something about long running script.

      • Annemb

        Never! Republicans generally leave the country with a deficit.

        • Fern Woodfork

          Exactly!!! :-)

          • Annemb

            I also gave your post a “heads up.”

            Blessings…

          • Fern Woodfork

            Thank You My Friend :-) I Always Do The Same To Yours Cause It ‘s Always TRUE!!! :-) Blessing To You Too!!! :-) <3

          • Annemb

            Hi Fern, Thanks so much. How very sweet of you. I try to make sure what I right is true. I also enjoy reading your comments. I firmly believe that, in order to turn the tide of negativity, etc., we need to support each other.

          • Fern Woodfork

            You Got That Right Cause United We Will Stand And Divided We Will Fall And I Plan On Standing!!! :-)

          • Annemb

            Amen to that!

            BTW, Ben Cohen, co-founder of Ben & Jerry’s ice cream, has a website — www,stampstampede.org which directs “we the people” on how to advocate overturning Citizens United.

            Check out http://www.randirhodes.com She traveled to Bangor, ME a year ago where we spent time with her on a cruise on the Penobscot River for an afternoon.

            Again, thanks so much…blessings…

          • neeceoooo

            I am with you on united front, Fern and Annemb

          • Fern Woodfork

            <3 We Are Going To Win This My Friend We Are Going To Give It Our ALL!!! :-)!!

      • Ed

        Fernie Wood Cock:

        Can you translate this piece of garbage you said here into English??!!

        • Fern Woodfork

          LOL Go Suck Out A Dead Moose Ass Bitch!!

          • Ed

            Fernie, you pathetic asshole, I said: “Can you translate this piece of garbage you said here into English??!!”
            Answer me, you male prostitute …

          • Fern Woodfork

            SUCK MY DICK OLD DICK SUCKING FAGGOT!!! Sorry Ass Lonely Bitch!! Just Pucker Up Those OLD Crusty Lips And SUCK DICK AND DIE FAGGOT!!

          • Ed

            Fernie (really Fernando): Listen you sissy, what I requested was for you to translate your stupid (as always) post into the English language, NOT to show everybody your utter, complete and absolute IGNORANCE.
            As for who is the faggot, I am not the one passing myself for a woman (and a woman nurse, at that !) and showing the (ugly, must be your Momma’s) face of a woman, you stupid idiot….
            Get a life, Fernando, and go play with the other faggots …

    • thirst4music

      Bill Clinton’s greatest offense was in stealing the spotlight from right-wing idol Ronald Reagan.

      • darkagesbegin

        you are so right. Clinton had the audacity to be elected only 12 years after the beginning of that 1000 year reign of republicans that was supposed to continue unbroken forever thanks to the awe and reverence everyone was supposed to have for king ronnie. why, his face should be on rushmore right now

        • Annemb

          Great post!

          I couldn’t have put it better myself.

          Blessings…

      • Billie

        Republicans made the movie star an icon even though he did so much damage.

        • disqus_LcxpBv2uzz

          Reagan was a dirty turncoat rat bastard who was president of the Screen Actors Guild (SAG, which is a union) when he was a B actor; and who then busted the federal Air Traffic Controllers union (at the behest of his republican masters) when he became POTUS (oh, sorry day!). Talk about a no-good rotten traitor, screwing his union brothers and sisters!

      • Dominick Vila

        Something else to consider is how former Presidents behave after they leave office. Clinton and Carter have done a splendid job helping the poor and those impacted by natural disasters and famine, former Republican presidents parachute from airplanes or spend their days playing golf.

        • Billie

          The elder Bush did a lot when he was able. Nothing like the Carters have, though. Can you imagine either of the Bushes building houses for the poor.

          • Fern Woodfork

            Hell No!!!

        • tax payer

          Once you leave your job you should forget about the problems that will continue to be there. I left and never looked back.

          • Dominick Vila

            Once you leave office or a job is when your true character becomes evident. Clinton and Carter could have done what most former Presidents do, write memoirs, make a lot of money, and spend the day attending galas or playing golf. Instead, they have spent much of their time helping others. I suspect the man who has been demonized for delaying the benefits of a successful career to help others will, almost without a doubt, continue to fight for the destitute, for the poor, the middle class, and the disenfranchised, with a basketball ball here and there :-)

          • disqus_LcxpBv2uzz

            Sure, that’s easy to do when you were a ribbon clerk!

        • neeceoooo

          And what has our noxious weed (Bush) done since leaviing office.

          • Fern Woodfork

            Yes He Has He Been Trying To Rally Other American To Buy Off Shore Investment In The Cayman Islands 5 Days Before The Election Last Year!!! That’s All These Thug Are About Gutting Out This Country And Selling Out The American People Just To Make MORE MONEY!!!

          • Sand_Cat

            Well, he said Edward Snowden is a traitor. I’ll take W seriously when he admits he’s a war criminal.

          • disqus_LcxpBv2uzz

            Well, he opened a presidential library. I guess it’s going to contain his entire collection ( 2 comic books, since that’s about all he’s capable of reading, though not sure that there’s much actual comprehension there).

    • Annemb

      Exactly!

      Tpublican’ts have selective memory. But they need to be reminded over and over.

      Great post!

      Faved.

    • CPAinNewYork

      Dominic:
      You’re wrong on Hillary. She’s the Democrats’ version of “Tricky Dick Nixon.” I don’t understand how someone who has written intelligently can go into paroxysms of praise over a sleazy politician and her equally sleazy husband.

      • Sand_Cat

        What, specifically, has Hillary done that’s “sleazy”? Not the hearsay, not the “murder” of Vince Foster, but something she actually did. If you can’t come up with something good, then you’re just another hypocrite repeating lies.

    • labrown69

      Bill Clinton brought Ronald Reagan’s dream of total deregulation of the financial services industry to fruition by signing Phil Gramms 99 and 2000 legislation leading to today’s economic collapse. Hillary will be the second coming of Barak Obama, more broken promises, more gitmo and Afghanistan and war on drugs etc … there is only one real choice for a president in 1016 and it is ELIZABETH WARREN FOR PRESIDENT. Hillary is just another con man.

    • middleclasstaxpayer

      There is a big difference between a “sneak attack” on several spots in the continental USA, with its 6 Million plus square miles, and an “ongoing attack” of 8 Hours on US soil, w/ at least 3 of the 4 souls alive for at least 6 hours, fighting for their lives. Military units were ready to support them, but were told to stand down. Then Hillary Clinton had the gall to state ” who cares how they died.?” Well I’ll bet their parents, wives & children cared? And of course our “leader?” simply went on a planned campaign trip early next AM. No problem for him…they weren’t in his family!

  • docb

    Can we just be through with the Clintons! Enough already!

    • Eleanore Whitaker

      No we cannot. We said the same with the Bush Dynasty and now Jeb Bush, likely the least intelligent, most compliant GOP clone is in the wings hoping for a shot at the White House. He won’t get it. Do let us know when the Clintons catch up to the Bushs.

      • Annemb

        Ditto!

      • CPAinNewYork

        Anything for man-hating Eleanor. I’ll keep track and let you know. Pay attention.

        • Landsende

          I don’t believe Eleanor hates men. Could be she has just lost respect for politicians that pass legislation concerning women’s health decisions, refuse to pass legislation so that women are paid the same wages as men, refuse to let women testify on issues concerning women and having an all male panel deciding whether victims of sexual assault in the military will get justice against their attacker. If the roles were reversed and women were making the same decisions affecting men I think they would be royally pissed off.

      • Ed

        Eleanore: THAT was funnnyyy!!!

        Let me rephrase: “… and now Joe Biden, likely the least intelligent, most compliant DemoCrap clone is in the wings hoping for a shot at the White House.”

        ROTFL !!!!!

        • Fern Woodfork

          Hey Ed You Just Make Yourself Look Stupid Like The Asshole You Are!!! LOL GET A LIFE BITCH!!!!

    • RobertCHastings

      NO! She is running for president, he will probably receive some humanitarian award, and Chelsea will continue the legacy. Get used to the name. We had to get used to the Bush name.

      • docb

        Please, I campaigned for and hosted and raised $$$ for slick in both National elections…It is too early for HRC to get in…her ‘inevitable’ went a long way to her demise last time. Familiarity breeds contempt. Let her take a year off…

        • sigrid28

          Here I agree with you. And about political dynasties–to me they smack of nepotism and cronyism, the two trends adored by Republicans that feed directly into xenophobia, our fear of others, including minorities. We need to re-establish the values of meritocracy to get things right for a change.

        • RobertCHastings

          Then who do we talk about? The Republicans come up with a new/old darling every week, some the same old clowns, and some new clowns. We know those Republicans who would appeal to a larger audience (like Christy) will never make it past the primaries where they must vow their allegiance to Norquist and the Tea Party. Who would run against Hilary in the primaries – Elizabeth Warren? Cory Booker? Joe Biden (good guy but will be too old)? While we have one year before the 2014 mid-terms, we need to be getting ready for 2016. Obama worked with W in 2008 to pass and implement a stimulus, clearly demonstrating his willingness to take the reins. Hopefully, Hilary will be able to put herself into the same position.

          • docb

            I think we let the clowns from the right cancel each other out and bloody their noses for a year to 18 months…work on getting Dems elected in 2014 up and down the ticket in State after State. Talk about no one but demand things get done on the budget, immigration, etc at the National level. Call out the reps and senators daily for action..The baggernuts are just on the anti-American side!

            Show up and get active!

          • Todd Scheller

            While you are at that we will just let Obama not get PPACA online. Which would you rather have, no laws or laws that don’t work?

      • Annemb

        x2.

      • tax payer

        Who will be her Monico?

        • RobertCHastings

          Monico? Who is Monico?

          • tax payer

            Remove the ( o ) and add an ( a ). You don’t want me to come out and say the name because it can create confusion.

          • RobertCHastings

            And what confusion could saying her name cause?

        • idamag

          Monico? Maybe, you should grow up before you want to discuss anything with the smart people. You have never put forth one intelligent and provable fact in any of these disucssions

          • tax payer

            I guess that excludes you. Did you mean: Discussions

          • tax payer

            So, that means you aren’t too smart and be excluded since you can’t even spell Discussions.

          • disqus_LcxpBv2uzz

            Like you’ve never misspelled anything in your life, right, asshole? Idamag’s comments make sense, yours do not!

    • Fern Woodfork

      NO!!

  • Eleanore Whitaker

    Actually, the real reason ultra conservatives hate the Clintons and Obama is simple. Both men come from single parent families. In the narrow minds of men like Rove, Reed, Norquist, the Kochs, Boehner, McConnell and Ryan, how dare any man or woman raised by a single Mom think they have a right to success?

    Eat your hearts out bois. You don’t need a single Mom to be a criminal. Madoff had two parents. So did Ebbers, Kozlowski and the Enron Bois.

    Trying to continue the myth that children raised by single Moms is a recipe for failure has made the narrow minded ultra conservatives who believe women have no right to success without a man’s helping her and no right to bear children unless Mr. Man says so has failed. Two presidents were raised by single Moms and both were re-elected. Can the righties say the same for Bush 41?

    • Annemb

      Your post is exactly correct! They despise anyone who wasn’t born with a “silver spoon” in their mouth.

      Blessings…

    • Annemb

      Hi again, just an extra note. I remember my husband saying to me, “Anne, remember money marries money.” I’m convinced this is a correct evaluation.

    • disqus_il6KG9d3VM

      If Rove, the Kochs, Gingrich, Maddof, McConnell, Bachmann, Palin, Norquist, Akins, Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, Cruz, etc.etc. are from two parent families what does that tell you? It seems to say that it is what you were taught about caring and giving, about helping our Country move forward rather than backwards to the bad old days, about making this a place where everyone is of value, and no one should have to work for a pittance without healthcare, that matters.

      • Jim Myers

        The Koch Brothers, Rove, Gingrich, McConnell, Beck, Coulter, Hannity, Cruz, Palin, Norquist, Santorum, Limbaugh, etc. They all have one quality in common.

        THEY ARE ALL A STRONG CASE FOR ENCOURAGING ABORTION RIGHTS!

        • Fern Woodfork

          All Of Them Should Have Been Aborted!!!

      • Fern Woodfork

        All The Thugs You Named Give Less Than A Damn About This Country Nor The American People All They Care Are About Is Mo Money, Mo Money, Mo Money, Power And Control In Order To Get Mo Money!! :-(

    • CPAinNewYork

      So, from this screed may we assume that you were a single mother? Still frothing at the mouth, Eleanore?

      • Sand_Cat

        Well, you certainly are.

        • Fern Woodfork

          CPAinNewYork,labrown69 IAre Sellout Punks May They Both Slow Burn In HELL!!!!! :-( Either You With Us Or Get The Hell Out Of The Way!! Just Some Flip Flopping ASSHOLES!!! :-(

          • Sand_Cat

            I think labrown69 is a VERY frustrated liberal, and -though his posts may be inflammatory and insulting at times – comparing him to the CPA is further than I would go. But I appreciate your support.

          • Ed

            Sandy_Cat: You are ALMOST as an IDIOT as this man, Fernie (can’t be a woman!) …
            … ooops! Sorry, what I meant to say was: “You are a moron, but a genius if compared with this man, Fernie.”
            LOL !!

          • Fern Woodfork

            ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ You Are So BoringZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

    • plc97477

      I think it has more to do with the fact that they both come from lower economic back ground. The republicans believe that there should be a ruling class, and Clinton and Obama are not the types that should be in it.

  • BeckerHead

    Is Maureen Dowd relevant in any circles?

    • Ed

      Beckerhead: Maureen Dowd IS NOT relevant in ANY circles. You are correct, … except for the fact that this pathetic journalist wannabee, Joe Conason, a DemocRat and liberal UN-conditional, would have us believe that:
      a) She has an audience, other than the same liberal idiots as her;
      b) The New York Times is other than a Left wing, liberal paper for liberal retards.
      LOL !!

  • thirst4music

    Typical CGI (conservative-generated idiocy). That green screen they are using is made of sewn-together hundred dollar bills.

    • CPAinNewYork

      Those Asian sweatshops are making goods sponsored by American celebraties, many if not most of whom are liberals.

      • awakenaustin

        So your problem is with the folks who do advertisements for these goods and not with the folks who own, run and pay for the sweat shops?
        Does this mean you believe if it weren’t for celebrities doing ads these sweat shops would not exist?
        I guess your statement should be seen as some progress at least you admit to the existence of these sweat shops and that they are, in fact, sweat shops and many of their employees are young children.

        • CPAinNewYork

          My problem is with the people who run the sweatshops and the crocodile tear liberal celebrities who contract with them to produce their lines of clothes and other popular items.

          • Ed

            CPA: Our problem is also with the liberal idiots and hypocrites like Michael Moore (Stinky Pig) who make their “documentaries” in Canada so as not to have to pay unionized American actors and technicians’ wages ….

          • Sand_Cat

            Your problem goes much, much deeper than liberals, but it does have plenty to do with hypocrisy.

          • Sand_Cat

            You’re problem is you’re a hypocrite about the whole issue. Some celebrity who may or may not be liberal is your excuse to whip out the broad brush and condemn us while thinking of the non-liberals who create the sweatshops and profit from them only as an afterthought when reminded. Kind of like Billy Graham, who was shocked by nothing in the content of what Richard Nixon said or did about Watergate, but only by the language in which he discussed it.

        • idamag

          There would be no illicit drug traffic if there were no users and there would be no sweatshop and slave labor made goods in the US without the cheap consumers that purchase them.

          • awakenaustin

            People will always use drugs to feel differently than they do normally and people will always buy clothes. Trying to get rid of the end user does not work as a solution in either case. I don’t think in any case liberal celebrities not doing ads or not getting paid to put their names on lines of clothing will deal with the issue of sweat shops and child labor. Laws against them in all nations will help. Your and my decision to pay more for our clothes will help some.
            Laying the blame at the feet of those who do the ads is silly.

      • disqus_LcxpBv2uzz

        Oh, you mean the Waltons of the world?

  • Bear A Woods

    GOP is shaking in their boots, first there was a black man who became President and who beat one of the GOP’s most famous, John McCain. Now they learn there is another unbeatable coming in the near future, a woman no less, Hillary Clinton, probably the most experienced woman in politics, a woman who can and will beat anyone who the GOP can dig up from that pool of fanatics they call their party. I don’t blame them for worrying, if I were them I’d save a lot of money and embarrassment and just not even try to beat Hillary and run someone like Rand Paul, that should give us months of laughs.

    • CPAinNewYork

      I hope that Hillary Clinton never gets to be the Democratic nominee for president. If nominated, she may well get the largest share of the women’s vote in American history, because it seems to me that women want a woman president, regardless of her sleazy past. With that and the Democratic male vote, she’ll probably win and that will be too bad for America.

      My clear recollection of her is that she broke down and cried during the 2008 campaign. She couldn’t take the pressure.

      • Sand_Cat

        And of course, we want emotionless robots to run our country, so obviously we can’t have a human being.

        • Ed

          Sand_Cat: A human being? Yes, …. but a decent human being, NOT Hillary “what-difference-does-it-make-now” !!

          • Sand_Cat

            Your reply confirms you’re just another moron repeating lies. If Ronald Reagan had gotten fed up with the kind of partisan BS interrogation she got (or even a scrupulously fair interrogation about things he didn’t want to talk about) and made such an exclamation, you’d be praising him to high heaven for standing up to the liberals. Before you start talking about “decent human beings,” maybe you should check to see if you qualify. Based on your comments so far, the answer is doubtful at best.

          • Ed

            Sandy_Kitten: With your “pedigree” and the “content” of your posts, If I were you I wouldn’t call ANYBODY a “moron repeating lies”.
            JOE BIDEN is “a moron repeating lies”;
            … and your socialist heroes, Obama and Hillary (talk about “pedigree”!!), are the ones TELLING the lies (to be repeated by Joe The Clown ….)
            LOL !!!

          • Sand_Cat

            If you had any sense or had actually reviewed the contents of my posts, you’d know I have no heroes among the political classes. I simply find it annoying that half-wits such as you go about spouting “socialist” and other terms they don’t understand about people who could outwit you with half their brains removed. And to be fair, I guess you technically aren’t lying, since you probably actually believe the drivel you post.

      • countrygirl59

        WOW! ~ Did you actually say that she broke down and cried therefore she couldn’t take the pressure? ~ How do you feel about Boehner then? ~ Note that he breaks down and cries when he is talking about how HE HAS WORKED SO HARD! ~ I guess my husband should be crying all the time then because of his working, eating & sleeping 7 days a week during the Reagan/Bush regime ~ Nope, didn’t receive any subsidy checks, no food stamps, no free lunches at school for our kids ~ Dad worked his butt off to take care of his family!!!

        • CPAinNewYork

          I have always thought that Boehner was emotionally unstable. I wouldn’t vote for him for president, nor would I vote for Hillary. I don’t have much respect for anyone who voluntarily associates with a sleazebag like Slick Willie. Just for the record, I wouldn’t vote for Anthony Wiener or Steamroller Spitzer, two more sexual deviates who want to be mayor and comptroller of New York City, respectively.

      • Landsende

        What is Boehner’s excuse for crying all the time? Could it be because he’s a lush? Contrary to your opinion that women will vote for a woman because they want a woman for president you couldn’t be more wrong. Even republicans wouldn’t vote for Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachman.

  • CPAinNewYork

    Conason is full of shit on this one. He sounds more like a member of Hillary’s campaign team than an independent reporter. Further his reference to the New York Times as “the paper of record” indicates to me that he doesn’t have the guts to take on hte Times.
    Hillary and her scumbag husband can set up all the charitable entities they want. My recollection of him is that he subjected this nation to worldwide ridicule with his sexual escapades and that she’s a crook.

    • charleo1

      Clinton didn’t hold a candle to George W. when it came to bringing worldwide
      ridicule on the U.S. And, if you want credibility, when you call someone a crook, don’t be like the GOP. Have a few facts to back it up.

      • CPAinNewYork

        I have all of the “facts” that are required to name Hillary Clinton as the spirit behind the Whitewater fraud.

        • Sand_Cat

          And if a deficit appears, you can make up more.

        • charleo1

          Well, the facts tell you Hillary Clinton was, “the spirit,”
          behind Whitewater. The facts tell me Jefferson Davis
          was the spirit behind the Lincoln assassination. Any
          more conspiracies you want to add, for which you
          have all the facts you need?

          • CPAinNewYork

            Yes. I think that you’re in a conspiracy to put idiotic postings on this website.

          • charleo1

            Ha! I think one idiotic post deserves another!

          • Sand_Cat

            The facts tell you that the whole Whitewater thing was a bunch of GOP BS. And what “facts” tell you Hillary was the “spirit” behind ? Have to say I’ve never heard a more pathetic excuse for a “fact” in my life. Are all your other “facts” as moronic as this one?

          • charleo1

            I hope CPainNewYork, is listening! Your excellent rebuttal
            belongs to him.

          • Sand_Cat

            You are quite right. And I directed it to him, too. I think NM or disqus has a problem with this sometimes. I’ve also gotten replies clearly not intended for me. Sorry you got it instead of him, but in any case, I’m sure he isn’t, and won’t listen.

        • Sand_Cat

          The facts tell you that the whole Whitewater thing was a bunch of GOP
          BS. And what “facts” tell you Hillary was the “spirit” behind it? Have
          to say I’ve never heard a more pathetic excuse for a “fact” in my life.
          Are all your other “facts” as moronic as this one?
          Since this got misdirected to the wrong recipient, I’m repeating it here.

          • CPAinNewYork

            You can’t even address a comment correctly and you’re calling me a moron?

    • Billie

      While his morals may have been in the toilet that had nothing to do with his ability to govern. He is still the best president that we have had in modern history. I know that chokes republicans, but it is fact that can’t be changed. No matter how much republicans try.

      • CPAinNewYork

        I know that there have been some pretty bad presidents in modern American history, like Lyndon Johnson, Dubya Bush, and Jimmie Carter, but none have reached the personal moral depths to which Bill Clinton descended.

        • David L. Allison

          You condemn the best and praise the worst. No one died when Clinton lied. Tens of thousands died when Bush died. Reagan assassinated central Americans and waged a war with lies. Jimmy Carter was and is and honorable man and Clinton brought the US a surplus that Bush and Cheney destroyed. Lyndon Johnson was handed a war initiated by Nixon and brought that war that was started with republican lies toward an end.

          • CPAinNewYork

            I named Dubya Bush as one of our worst presidents. Didn’t you read my post? Carter was an embarrassment as president and precipitated the iranian fiasco. Lyndon Johnson preceded Nixon: you’ve reversed their tenures in office! Johnson succeeded Kennedy and ramped up the Viet Nam war to its highest point. Remember the protesters chanting “Hey, hey LBJ, how many kids you kill today”? Johnson even lost the support of Walter Cronkite, his fellow Texan.

          • Sand_Cat

            Dwight Eisenhower, the CIA, and the Dulles brothers were the cause of all our problems with Iran, and Richard Nixon did his part to make them worse. All Carter did was admit a dying man – brutal tyrant though he was – to the US for treatment.
            Those embarrassed by Carter were mainly “conservatives” like you, even though he was a very conservative president.

          • Jim Myers

            Let us not forget that great patriot, DICK Cheney, that said “I have better things to do than get my ass shot off in Vietnam.”

          • idamag

            And Johnson signed Civil Rights into law.

          • Sand_Cat

            Well, you were doing great until you said Nixon handed the war to Johnson. I wish it were otherwise, but you have it exactly the opposite.

          • David L. Allison

            Darn. Of course. De Sculpe. Thank you

    • Sand_Cat

      Yeah, and she and Bill joined Obama in personally murdering the American ambassador in Benghazi, too.

  • charleo1

    There is a dishonesty involved, when Right Wing Christians disparage the
    government safety net. Claiming the government is trying to replace God.
    Then, go after the charity organizations. As faith without work is dead. So
    is politics so polarized, it fails to recognize what is good, and doing God’s
    work.

    • Billie

      AMEN!!

  • tax payer

    Democrats love to give and Republicans love to save, so I choose the Republicans as my party.

    • Billie

      You need to go back and do a little research. It’s always been the republicans that spend the money and then blame the democrats.

      • CPAinNewYork

        The Republicans don’t spend the money, they and their rich cohorts steal it.

        • Billie

          Okay, I’ll go for that. None the less the deficit is always a lot worse when they leave office than when a democrat leaves office.

      • tax payer

        Republicans want to eliminate SNAP. The Democrats ( only ) will settle for a cut, so who is trying to save money for the tax payers?

        • Sand_Cat

          You’re right! We should starve out those “taker” families of the soldiers doing multiple overseas tours fighting YOUR wars for too little to even provide sufficient food for their dependents. Your party is the party of stinginess, dishonesty, ingratitude, and just plain meanness.

          • tax payer

            No one forced them to join the service, but I am not referring to their families. I am simply saying the Republicans want to eliminate SNAP.

          • Sand_Cat

            Yes, no one forced them. The poor fools volunteered to protect your sorry ass – or at least they thought they volunteered for that – and you haven’t even got the common decency to regret that they’re treated as badly as “the help” in sweatshops worldwide. Yes. You’re just choosing the GOP because you want to save money, but of course the fact that they shaft millions of real people to do it is completely irrelevant to your argument.

          • tax payer

            As I mentioned ( I wasn’t referring about their families ). Joining the service is a volunteer act now, so like I mentioned no one forced them to join. They protected the people of the country they were sent to defend and they weren’t defending us here in the USA. I never feel sorry for the poor because they don’t feel sorry for us, when they are eating the food we pay for them to consume. You have to realize ( why should we feed others ), when no one feeds us for free.

          • centerroad

            And they voted at the same time to subsidize agribusiness, and in 2012 refused to cut the subsidies for big oil. So lets be clear, you are a corporate fascist trying to make people believe you want to cut their taxes when in fact you are funneling money to the one percent.

          • disqus_LcxpBv2uzz

            You are one heartless POS!!! Walk a mile in their shoes, Mr. Compassion

    • http://www.dailykos.com/user/shpilk shpilk

      Save? Yes – if you mean saving the rich from having to pay their taxes.

      Republicans love to give their rich pals like Mitt Romney tax havens off shore.

      • tax payer

        Everyone pays taxes in this country, but some pay less and get the Biggest Refund Check you, and I won’t ever receive in our Lifetime. Who could it be? No need to answer that because we know it’s not those that pay High taxes every year.

  • http://www.TheButchQueen.com/ BUTCH

    They hate anything deemed a success by the left. The problem is that a lot these successes made by the left are things that advance us as a society. They would rather demonize any success by the left than see our country takes steps forward. It’s truly sad that such evil exists in the world. And that so many weak-minded individuals believe their BS all in the name of Jesus.

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