Because Rodgers was not under a court-ordered psychiatric treatment, his providers were not required to submit his name to any federal or state “no buy” list. Unfortunately, as we have seen too often, even when someone is under court-ordered treatment, the providers rarely provide the names under doctor-patient confidentiality.
If they were adjudicated as mentally ill, as you posit,
there would be no need for providers to report their names, because the Courts
would obviously already have them.
The term “adjudicated” implies that the courts have declared the person officially ill. Most mentally ill persons are treated in the community, and live quiet lives and never come near the courts. Are we talking now about making mental illness a crime? “Adjudicated” is a red herring, which is used to convince us that there is already something we can do, if only we had the will.
If you had even bothered to read the post to which I was responding, you would have realized that adjudicated was NOT a “red herring” – because that person wrote:
“… even when someone is under court-ordered treatment, the providers rarely provide the names under doctor-patient confidentiality.”
See? ADJUDICATED! (Try to keep up)
I agree it is not a “red herring”.
Line 21 of the form says “are you taking any medication for any psychotic disorder?” What are they going to put, yes!
Of course they are!
That is why mental health providers need to notify authorities when a patient is being treated. Oh, I forgot, we liberals do not that to be public record. Wake up, people. What do you want mentally ill people to be able to buy guns or their mental illness to be public record?
Hay, I’m a life long democrat , raised with guns all my life and a gun owner. I do not want mentally ill people to be able to legally buy guns.
He had REFUSED to take the medication, so he was NOT lying if he said “NO” The boys at Columbine ALSO had legally obtained weapons, albeit through a straw buyer, but from a gun show in a state in which the laws will not change, anyway.
Which would change under appropriate legislation. HIPAA protects patient confidentiality almost to the point of obsessiveness, but the need for adequate knowledge about an individual’s criminal and mental health records is a matter of public safety. Without requiring current gun owners to give up their guns (unless, of course, they have some prohibitive condition), legislation that is being considered is only for the purpose of prohibiting those with a mental health issue, convicted felons, or people under orders of protection from obtaining firearms.
Elliot Rodgers purchased his guns and ammo legally
Elliot Rodgers registered his arsenal, as required by law.
So according to the NRA’s own rubric, Elliot Rodgers was a “Good guy with a gun” …
UNTIL 9:27 PM when he fired the first shot.
The NRA and its gun-worshipping members can go fvck themselves.
Amen to that!
Why aren’t prolife churches out there demonstrating and erecting fake graveyards on their lawns to protest the murder of innocents with guns?
A good point, and yet another example of why the so-called pro-lifers aren’t pro-life. They don’t care about the fate of the fetus once it is born, and they don’t care how many people are killed by guns. I once read a chilling comment by a gun supporter that I haven’t been able to forget: “Your dead don’t trump my rights.”
Geez, that gun supporter is pure evil. This is about as close to believing in the devil as I can get.
And, believe it or not, the self-declared “Joe the Plumber” just said the same thing! See http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/05/27/1302350/–Your-dead-kids-don-t-trump-my-Constitutional-rights?detail=email
Joe the Plumber must be drinking drano again. He is bat shit crazy and a mean son of a skunk too.