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Friday, October 28, 2016



Although many conservatives are becoming desperate to distance themselves – and their party – from the “repeal or replace” war they have waged on the Affordable Care Act, several Republican candidates running in 2014 have proven unwilling or unable to cut the cord.

With Election Day just months away, many GOP candidates now find themselves on the defensive, as hopes of repealing the law slowly die, and they struggle to introduce their own “replace” plans.

Read on to learn which six Republicans cannot actually explain what “replacing” Obamacare would entail, but are nonetheless vowing to do so.

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  • gmccpa

    Ironically, the GOP/Tea Party has made Nancy Pelosi’s SARCASTIC remark ‘we need to pass the bill to find out whats in it’….absolutely true. These nimwits were able to fight against Obamacare mainly because their ignorant supporters could not grasp how it worked. Now in place, many people are benefiting…while most of the others are not even affected. So good luck to them trying to repeal it. It will never happen.

    • Independent1

      And of course everyone knows why Nancy made that sarcastic remark: it’s because prior to passage, the GOP had submitted close to 300 amendments to the law. They were submitting amendments right up to when it came time to vote on the bill. GOP amendments were being submitted and voted on so fast and furious that virtually no legislators could keep up with which amendments had been approved and which amendments hadn’t. In the final tally, 189 GOP amendments were included in the ACA legislation finally enacted.

      The foundation of ACA was put together by a bipartisan panel of 3 Republicans and 3 Democrat senators, meeting for over 60 hours. Once that foundation had been put together, the GOP had had more than enough time to submit ideas and suggestive changes, but rather than doing that, they waited until the very last minute to submit a barrage of changes. This is why Nancy was more than annoyed and made that sarcastic comment.

      • latebloomingrandma

        All those amendments and still no votes.

        • Independent1

          No votes, because despite the rhetoric from the GOP today, back in 2010 the GOP realized that ACA was game-changing legislation that would more than likely make Obama look good because he pushed so hard for it. So given that the GOP leadership had publicly stated that they were going to do everything in their power to make Obama a one-term president, there was no way that they could vote for something that may well help him get re-elected.

          So McConnell and Boehner decided that the GOP had to oppose it and do everything they and the party could to try to make it fail – hoping that by doing so, they could prevent Obama’s re-election. And we all know how well that worked out; but having failed at that, they kept up the fake hatred of ACA, even though they new it was their idea and could go a long way in changing what had been a failed healthcare system in America, hoping somehow that ACA wouldn’t go well and it would give them an advantage in the 2014 mid-term elections.

          So let’s hope the American people smarten up in the next few months and the GOP fails at that too.

          As a side note; my wife and I just received a surprise from our Medicare Advantage provider Aetna; we received a notice from Aetna saying that we had been selected to receive free physical exams from an Aetna selected doctor, in our home, to give us a second opinion on the status of our current health and the medications we have been prescribed by the medical care that is being provided by our current healthcare providers – at absolutely no expense to us.

          When is the last time (or any time) that you are aware that doctors not only made house calls, But that an insurance company was willing to FULLY PAY for second opinions on someone’s health status and medications that were not even requested???

      • johninPCFL

        And reason two is that the Senate bill did not match any of the four House bills, and there’s no reason Pelosi would have read the Senate bill. Passing it was the only way to get anything like an ACA.

  • Independent1

    What many of these clueless Republicans seem to ignore, is that not only has ACA provided healthcare benefits to millions of Americans, including many who couldn’t previously get healthcare, ACA has been boosting the economy since at least back in March by freeing up income for the families who have been able to cover themselves with health insurance much cheaper than before ACA; and because ACA has covered their healthcare expenses which before they had to pay out of pocket.

    See this extraction from an artcle published in the DailyKos back on March 4:

    It must have really killed the editorial board over at the Wall Street Journal to see this this story appear on the paper’s website.

    The Affordable Care Act, President Barack Barack Obama’s signature health law, is already boosting household income and spending.

    The Commerce Department reported Monday that consumer spending rose a better-than-expected 0.4% and personal incomes climbed 0.3% in January. The new health-care law accounted for a big chunk of the increase on both fronts.

    On the incomes side, the law’s expanded coverage boosted Medicaid benefits by an estimated $19.2 billion, according to Commerce’s Bureau of Economic Analysis. The ACA also offered several refundable tax credits, including health insurance premium subsidies, which added up to $14.7 billion.

    Of course it’s helping consumers. It was designed to. Which also means it will help the economy when those consumers have a little bit more personal income to spend out in the marketplace. It will help insurance companies who will have more customers, many of whom won’t ever require big payouts. That’s one of the reason this model of health insurance reform was proposed first by conservatives!

    Kudos to the WSJ for noticing, but don’t expect anyone on the right to acknowledge that this story exists.

  • FireBaron

    Gee, if the plan said “Bushcare” or “Reagancare” and did the exact same thing as “Obamacare”, they would be falling all over themselves to strengthen it!

    • johninPCFL

      I’m not sure – it is Romneycare, and has been called that. The major objection is the President who signed it into law.

    • Allan Richardson

      They even want to repeal Johnsoncare, passed in 1965, on which many of the GOP BASE VOTERS rely, and yet would vote for them and get it repealed. They sugar coat that by proposing what is essentially a “voucher plan” that probably would not be enough to cover the premiums of a private policy for someone over 65 for the FIRST year, and would probably be reduced by a Republican Congress every year, while premiums go up, until it is gone.

      The “captains of industry” behind GOP platforms were against health care reform even when TEDDY Roosevelt proposed it!

  • latebloomingrandma

    Whether it’s health care, climate change, the economy or jobs, when you are on the wrong side of history, it causes one to perfect the art of speaking out of both sides of the mouth.

  • cgosling

    Most of those who don’t have health insurance have minimal understanding about: 1) How to apply for it. 2) How to use it. 3) Which plan is best for them. 4) Where and how to find a family doctor if one is even available. 5) How to follow a doctor’s advice. 6) How to get and take prescriptions. These socially, culturally, educationally deprived American citizens need a special kind of health care which doctors and health care specialists have not been trained to give. Medical schools need to revise their courses and train special care doctors to care for the huge masses of uneducated patients. The same is true for health administrators, nurses, nurse-practitioners, nurse aids, scheduling secretaries, etc. The unhealthy and uncared for segment of the nation needs help in understanding the health care system before they can utilize it. Persons needs to learn how to drive a car before they can use it.

    China has a unique health care system, while not to our standards, it is designed to treat patients on different levels. There are healthcare providers on the village level to handle minor injuries; on the next level they provide specialists to treat broken bones; the next level provides treatment of more complicated diseases; the next levels provide hospital care, etc. Actual trained doctors are rare so health technicians fill in where they can. Health care in China is not ideal and good care is expensive, so such a basic system has merit. Why have a school trained doctor care for someone suffering with a cold or needing a prescription. An audio/video internet connection with a medical specialist from a store or local clinic is all that is needed. Most medical care does not need to be done by M.D.s. The US health care system needs major overhaul to cut expenses and treat the untreated. We can do it. Lets get to it.

    • dtgraham

      I think that your Chinese scaled down treatment centers for more minor illnesses sort of already exist in America. As you imply, many may not even be aware of it. Aren’t they known as convenient care clinics (ccc’s), a category of walk-in clinic?

      They’re supposed to be in retail stores, supermarkets and pharmacies. They’re usually staffed by nurse practitioners or physician assistants (PA). I’ve read that there are more than 1450 of them scattered throughout the U.S. but because they’re such a newer development, only a small % of Americans have ever received health care in one of these ccc’s although I may be reading older information.

      The cost is supposed to be quite a bit less than other medical settings. The example that I saw had examination and treatment of an earache being 38% cheaper than a doctor’s office visit and 68% less expensive than an emergency room visit for the same thing. The problems are that you’re only going to receive a narrow range of services without an MD there and the cost may still be prohibitive for the working poor who don’t quite qualify for medicaid. In Kansas, for instance, you have to make less than $8000.00 a year for a single person to be able to receive medicaid.

      Anyone who knows more than I do about these clinics, feel free to enlighten me.

      • cgosling

        dtgraham – You are correct. “Walmart health Care” may contribute to better health care for the uninsured and under insured. These clinics are simple to access, like emergency rooms are. Just walk in and get a pill or get referred to a bigger clinic or hospital. We need more doctors willing to care for the needy. If we can’t find motivated doctors then we need to sweeten the pot to find them. This is one approach that may help. Financing medical education costs in return for working with the needy, needs to be expanded. Assigning healthcare supervisors to the needy might insure they show up for appointments and take their medications correctly. Eventually these people will hopefully learn how to take care of themselves, but they to be taught how to do this.

        • dtgraham

          If America just expanded Medicare to everyone, there would be an entire nation of “doctors willing to care for the needy.” It wouldn’t matter to them who they cared for. Everyone would be treated the same, especially if co-pays, out-of-pocket and monthly premiums were eliminated for at least some anyway…if not everyone ideally. It’s done elsewhere. I understand that some are averse to this though. Not on this website, but on the political right.

          I’m not sure that the “health care supervisors” are necessary. You seem to be coming at it from the perspective of certain demographics just not being able to look after themselves, and this is the big problem in health care. They simply need to be taught in your view. I don’t really see that. I think it’s just straight up money. It’s excessive cost driven by the profit motive and too many middle men. Too many people don’t have the ability to pay for health care individually if they’re not fortunate enough to have an employer who will.

          You have some ideas cgosling, and there are different ways of getting to universal coverage for sure. You at least seem to care about the goal and you do have some thoughts as to how to get there. I don’t mean to be too critical in my reply.

      • ralphkr

        My mother (on Medicare) started to use one of those urgent care outfits (located in a former fast food shop) when she discovered that her retired doctor was working there after he had been retired for 4 years. After her longtime doctor retired again her care was taken over by some young doctors who really impressed me with the amount of time they would take with my mother as well as how long they would take with me to make sure I understood what my mother’s maladies were and what she needed. The main difference that I could see between the Urgent Care Center and regular clinics and doctors’ offices what that Urgent Care.Center did not schedule 8 patients per doctor every 10 minutes the way traditional offices did (I knew one office where they scheduled 15 patients every 10 minutes and, for some reason, they were usually an hour or more behind in the afternoon.

        • dtgraham

          Can’t imagine why.

  • browninghipower

    These gop clowns have been so used to winning while lying and having the dumbass low info voters nodding their bobble heads in agreement that they believe they can continue with impunity. And Dems just keep sying/hoping that the Voters will catch on to the gop lies. Bullshit!! If the Dems don’t aggressively push back this time and get their voters out, the Senate will fall and America will be in TeaParty Hell. Liberals have this propensity for wishful thinking from the sidelines. They believe that magically The People will Awaken to the lies and viciousness of the gop and vote them out en masse. It’s not ever going to happen rarely has. And the Dems and Liberals have never, ever, learned that lesson. Morons.

    • highpckts

      I agree! The Dems need to start pushing back against all this verbal pollution coming from the right!!

  • Sand_Cat

    No one in the GOP seems to have any idea what they want to “do about health care.” Repealing the ACA is not doing anything about health care; it’s just getting revenge on the black Democrat.

  • rustacus21

    Already being ‘law,’ what do they think they’re ‘suppose’ to do w/it? Especially while so many (myself NOW included, after not having health care of ANY kind for the last 5 years) have it, instead of the Republican alternative… By the way, what was the Republican ‘option’ again? Oh yeah, those ‘death panels’ that decided, like in NC, GA, LA, etc., that if U’r deathly ill, too damn bad & don’t go to ‘their’ hospitals in ‘their’ states…

  • ExRadioGuy15

    The GOP are out of ideas about doing anything except for doing what they’ve been trying to do for nearly a century: convert our democracy/ constitutional republic into a Fascist Christian Plutartheocracy…
    The GOP are not interested in governing…they haven’t been interested in that for a very long time.
    And, have you noticed that, when the GOP come up with ideas to “replace” the PPACA (“Obamacare” is the GOP’s dog-whistle term for the law), many of the ideas are already a part of the law in effect? This further proves that they’re the party of no new ideas. That fact can’t be surprising to anyone, as the distinct definition of Conservatism is maintenance of the status quo, resistance to change or progress and adherence to “Neoliberalism”, the term now used to explain the Conservative effort to accumulate as much wealth and power as possible, legal or not, moral or not….

  • Sand_Cat

    What a bunch of hot-air hypocrites. But then, how are they any different from the overwhelming majority of their party?

  • kingartie1

    Not one of these “candidates” offers a quantifiable, analytical, sensible alternative. Being adamantly AGAINST something would seem to require the corollary of support FOR something else. But they only mumble borderline nihilism, the impulse to destroy a balance or a society through the delusion that A SYSTEM OF CONTROL DESIGNED BY COLLUSION TO MALFUNCTION AND REPRESS A MAJORITY is clearly better than A QUITE IMPERFECT BUT VIABLE PROGRAM THAT CAN HELP TO LIBERATE THEM. Not one of these people or their ilk has expressed any compassion for the ill and injured, not one has conceded any points to ACA’s attempts to control ever-rising health care costs and its dire damage to the domestic budget, not one has ever admitted that the breakdown of the former system was partly the fault of the inept and contemptuous insurance companies in charge of U.S. health care, and not one has the courage to expressly offer any IMPROVEMENTS to ACA. Repeal, repeal, repeal. Gutless droning ass puppets all.