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Friday, October 21, 2016

Gun Advocate Plans July 4th March In Washington — With Loaded Guns

Adam Kokesh

A former Marine, candidate for Congress, and self-defined libertarian radio talk-show host has sparked some controversy over a Facebook event gone viral. Adam Kokesh, host of Adam vs. The Man, created an event on Facebook entitled, “Open Carry March on Washington #OpenCarry130704” to promote an individual’s Second Amendment rights. In a July 4 march from Virginia to D.C., the participants will pass Congress, the Supreme Court, and the White House—all while carrying their loaded guns.

According to the Facebook page, over 30,000 people have been invited, more than 1,500 have confirmed they will attend, and nearly 1,500 have declined — and the numbers are continuing to grow.

Virginia’s lenient gun laws grant protestors the right to publicly load their guns within state lines. Since Washington, D.C. has strict gun laws, law enforcement may be able to arrest any Open Carry March participants if they cross state lines with their loaded guns.

The description on Kokesh’s Facebook page states, “This is an act of civil disobedience, not a permitted event. We will march with rifles loaded & slung across our backs to put the government on notice that we will not be intimidated & cower in submission to tyranny. We are marching to mark the high water mark of government & to turn the tide. This will be a non-violent event, unless the government chooses to make it violent.”

Kokesh said that the event website needed 10,000 supporters and at least 1,000 confirmed marchers by June 1st for the march to take place. This goal was met Monday afternoon, when Kokesh posted an update confirming that he’d reached the required number. “Now that it’s undeniable that this is going to happen, allow me to make clear how. There will be coordination with DC law enforcement prior to the event,” he wrote. “Failing to provide that commitment to safety, we will either be informed that we will only be allowed up to a certain point where we would be arrested. If this is the case, we will approach that point as a group and if necessary, I will procede [sic] to volunteer myself to determine what their actual course of action with someone crossing the line will be at which point fellow marchers will have the choice of joining me one at a time in a peaceful, orderly manner, or turning back to the National Cemetery.”

Kokesh is a former Marine who received a general discharge, one step below an honorable discharge, after wearing his uniform to an anti-war protest. His radio talk show on Russia Today, a Russian-sponsored network that is critical of American policies, was canceled after he supported and fundraised for Representative Ron Paul’s (R-TX) presidential campaign. Kokesh stands for anti-government policies and his past run-ins with authorities show he is not afraid to make a statement for the sake of his political cause—in fact, two of his latest tweets include: “It’s time to abolish the US federal government,” and “When the government comes to take your guns, you can shoot government agents, or submit to slavery.”

There is no doubt that Kokesh’s views have become a bit extreme and radical—marching across Washington D.C. militia-style is just one way his ideology is sadly rubbing off on right-wing gun nuts across the country who relentlessly believe the government is trying to take away their guns. It is still uncertain if Kokesh will actually go through with the march, or if the event will achieve what he hopes. After all, arguing to uphold one law he enjoys by breaking another and triggering arrest wouldn’t make him a hero or patriot — it would make him a criminal.

AP Photo/New Bedford Standard Times/Peter Pereira

H/T: Salon

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  • Michael Kollmorgen

    Sounds like it might be the Spark these nuts want to start a Civil War, IF they start getting arrested by the Washington DC Police.

    Washington DC better have a lot of Federal Troops on standby.

    • Suralin Kotare

      Nah. Better option: Use this as an opportunity to prop up DC businesses. Treat the marchers as tourists. No need to get confrontational at all.

  • Suralin Kotare

    Better option: Use this as an opportunity to prop up DC businesses. Treat the marchers as tourists. No need to get confrontational at all.


  • docb

    Wow, what could go wrong..guns, no permits and no security but the repubs in Congress will have run home to hide on their monthly repub rules vacation!

    • stcroixcarp

      All we need is to add copious amounts of alcohol to this mix and get out of the way. They will take care of themselves.

      • Or people will get shot.

        • exactly…they will be marching in holding guns, and someone will pull a trigger, and we will have a massacre…there is no way this will end well, for them or this country…

    • Congress will not be in Washington since it is a holiday.

    • under constituional law the gun ban is an illegal act in this country

      • docb

        Under DC law there is the legal ban on guns not ‘in common use’ as was the majority opinion which scalia wrote in DC v. Heller.. Additionally, the opinion stated that gun ownership was NOT UNLIMITED! Just read it.

  • CPAinNewYork

    So, this idiot has a “less that honorable discharge from the Marines.” Exactly what is his discharge? probably a Section 8, i.e. he has mental problems.

    • Michael Kollmorgen

      He got booted out because he wore his uniform to a anti-war demonstration.

      This is what the article states. I got a feeling there is more to that story that’s not being told though. Maybe we’ll all find out more IF he carries this out and IF he gets arrested.

      The Trial(s) ought to be interesting.

      • disqus_fsqeoY3FsG

        So he was against the Wars but he wants to start a Civil War here? Really, this man has followers? He is nothing more than a home grown terrorist.

    • There’s alot more involved with getting a general discharge. Usually it’s not just for wearing a uniform in the wrong place. Something about this smells as wrong as mountain oysters for breakfast.

  • latebloomingrandma

    July 4th at the Capitol is always a lovely, patriotic program, in which parents bring their young children to enjoy the music and fireworks. I believe it is a gun free event. the fact that there are “citizens” advocating armed insurrection on this day, tells me that they have a very skewed view of Independence Day, little knowledge of our country’s history, and are merely fixated on their guns. How on earth did we get to this point?

    • you elected Obama (duuuh)

      • ococoob

        What a stupid response (duh?).

      • latebloomingrandma

        Aha!! So it’s all about the black guy in the Whitehouse, eh?

        • Michael Kollmorgen

          Of course!

          This is what it’s been all about all along. They are going to do anything they can to paint Obama in the worst possible light. It’s been their tactic from the first day he took office.

          Pure Racism at it’s worst.

          He really can’t say much about it that he’s in office. Wait until he gets out of office. I’m sure he’ll have lots to say about it once he leaves office. I wouldn’t blame him if he gave it to us with Both Barrels – what he “really” thinks about this.

      • Justin Napolitano

        FY asshol, Klaus

      • CrankyToo

        In the words of the eminent educator, Dean Vernon Wormer, fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.

    • maybe you need a history lesson and one on the constitution

      • latebloomingrandma

        I’ve read the Constitution numerous times, also the Federalist papers. I read lots of history and Presidential biographies. I just started a bio on Jefferson on my Kindle. What’s on your bookshelf?

    • George

      We got to this point reacting to the antics of the socialist left. This administration needs to disarm We the People so they can force upon us/US a one world government under the new world order. They can not oppress the masses as long as we remain armed. That is why we have the Second Amendment to our Constitution.

      • CrankyToo

        Paranoia is a psychosis, George. You need to be institutionalized, son.

      • Michael Kollmorgen

        It won’t be the government that will force us to do anything.

        It will be Corporate Dominance that forces our government to meld into a new world order. And, it won’t be ONLY our government either.

        So, you can have all the guns you like. It won’t matter. In essence, you’re blaming the wrong people.

    • It seems to be the case that you need a taste of knowledge my friend, the 4th is not about music and fireworks.. Unfortunately you’re the one with the skewed view of Independence Day.

      • latebloomingrandma

        So celebrating our freedoms by gathering with friends and families in parks all over the country, listening to patriotic music, enjoying American food, and waving flags is not a way to celebrate the anniversary of our independence, but parading around with guns just to show you CAN, is somehow a great way to show freedom? OK. Whatever floats your boat. I like my party better than yours.

        • Hm I’m almost completely sure I said nothing of that sort, it seems as though you like to assume. I was nearly stating that you have no knowledge of the Independence Day from the comment you posted and the skewed view of Independence Day is yours. The 4th is the day America gained independence and independence with freedom, so, in fact, to answer your question- Yes, parading around with firearms to show we CAN is a great way to show freedom, thanks for the assist. My party has fried dough, suit yourself.

  • And that’s exactly WHY we need to take guns away from clowns. Not everyone, just those clowns.
    Now Cheif of DC Po-Lice…remember your Law school; to brandish a firearm in a public place is the crime of ASSAULT (putting one in fear for their life or safety).
    ANYONE with a firearm displayed should be arrested, charged with local & ATF violations & made to look like the clown they really are.
    We can always hope the gun nuts go on a shooting spree & that will put the entire gun issue to rest.
    So serve them liquor before they get there…Yee Hawww…

  • JDavidS

    “Open carry”? how about “Open fire!”

    • yeah, the hell with the constitution, right? it’s only good protecting those who don’t want to govern by it, right?

      • JDavidS

        Read the article again, Skippy. You yap about the constitution, maybe you’ve heard of “laws”? And what could possibly go wrong? A bunch of yahoos wandering around a city with loaded guns… Yeah. That just screams “safety”.

        • Michael Kollmorgen

          I’m willing to bet that most of these nuts that might show up there are going to be from weekend warrior Militia Group wanna-bes.

          They’re so brave in the woods and their back yards! But, show up there with loaded guns? Even one incident will bring down so many law enforcement officers and maybe even troops on them, they’ll be crapping their pants.

          If I were them, I’d bring along a large supply of Diapers and Toilet Paper.

          There is such a thing as a LAW! This is one of them situations where the Federal Government or the DC Police can not waffle on it. IF they don’t enforce these laws, the public from that point on, the Federal Government will appear weak and ineffective.

          We the people can’t allow this to happen.

          • laws are part of the problem, there are too many of them that are in fact breaking the law these laws are in direct opposition to the law the of the land,,, our constiution and so many of you are so willing to throw it away after milions have fought and died to protect it

          • Michael Kollmorgen

            Actually, if I had my way, I’d abolish the entire corrupt document and start from scratch. I’d abolish the entire government and be governed by a form of government what Canada has, a parliamentary form of government.

            Our Democracy has been a sham for the bulk of its citizens since it first was founded. We’ve been ruled by the top 10% of this country from its first day.

            Who do you think designed the Constitution in the first place? It wasn’t designed by, or meant for the common man in any stretch of the imagination. Hell, the real purpose of this country came to light when the Supreme court finally (after 300 years) gave Corporations human rights.

            If you really are serious (I’m not saying you aren’t), look behind the money of what has been going on for years. We live in a imposed illusion, mass brainwashing, mass marketing extraordinaire. Freedom, Liberty, Happiness? It’s all pure illusion.

            If anyone really wants to take up arms against this country, take it up against ALL of our Politicians from the local level all the way up AND all of our Corporations. It isn’t the federal government that’s been doing the most screwing though. It’s been mostly your local and state governments.

            Huh, something though tells me, these people wouldn’t last a week in a real firefight.

          • Jgorish

            Virtually every single person in this country could be found guilty of violating some law on a nearly daily basis. Even the Federal government chooses which laws it intends to pursue, and those it finds convenient to ignore.

        • Jgorish

          All laws in this country are supposed to conform to the Constitution. Not all do. The demonization of firearms is a recent development. Even JFK supported the NRA.

          • JDavidS

            I’m sure JFK would have supported the NRA as it existed in his time. I’d bet he wouldn’t support the organization as it exists today. Nor would he support the idiots running it now.

          • Michael Kollmorgen

            All of our laws have passed the test of comparing their meanings to understood meanings in the Constitution. That’s not saying much for the Constitution, since it looks like a piece of Swiss Cheese anyway.

            Any smart constitutional lawyer could circumvent the Constitution, either for or against any issue, if they really wanted to and had enough money to argue their claim in front of a court.

            In regards to the Gun issue(s), the meaning of the 2nd amendment has been stretched way beyond what the 2nd Amendment actually stood for when it was written.

            I have a strong suspicion that IF our founding fathers would have known that our weaponry would have become so powerful, they would have put in it qualifiers that would have made forbidden the private ownership of some of these weapons.

            Think if it this way, back then, the most powerful weapon available was a Black Power Cannon. Gatling Guns weren’t even invented until the Civil War. They had no idea that eventually someone was going to come along and invent a weapon as powerful as a AR-15, let alone all these military-styled semi-autos. And, they had no idea that the public would go Gun Crazy.

            They certainly would have never imagined one person going into a school and murdering every single kid they found. They were afraid of foreign invading armies doing that, not a single bonified citizen.

  • ococoob

    Is this guy “certifiable?!!” He’s actually proclaiming total ANARCHY here! Nut cases! I fear this could get out of hand!

  • steve

    I hope the police and national guard also have loaded GUNS Let these NUTS bring their loaded guns. 20 six year old”s dead time for 20 NRA adults.

    • boo hoo am tired of hearing it, our government had been waiting for this to happen for an excuse to get you anti gunners worked up to help them get rid of the second amendment.. what do you clowns think is going to happen when nobody but the crooked cops and Obama liars are left to protect your sorry butts?

      • charleo1

        I’m sorry, who’s government is waiting for an excuse to
        get rid of the Second Amendment? And how did you come
        to the conclusion, the NRA of all things, is protecting anything,
        but the gun, and ammo companies? They are a lobbying
        organization, for God’s sake! Do you think you might have
        become just a little pre-programed, there? While they were
        convincing you not to trust the police, and not to trust the
        government, and, that mistrust would also apply to the U.S.
        military as well, I assume. That would be the all volunteer,
        military. Made up of those good, and solid, and patriotic,
        men, and women, who after the attacks of 9/11, packed
        enlistment offices all around the Country. Why? I guess,
        because, they too noticed the government just waiting for
        an excuse to get rid of the Second Amendment, and they
        wanted in on that!? You know, you should really be ashamed.
        Ashamed, because, even as our government is not perfect.
        You still live in one of the freest countries in the world. But,
        you seem oblivious to the sacrifices made by citizens, and
        soldiers, every day, to protect you, your liberty, and the
        Country itself aganist all enemies. All comers. Foreign, and
        domestic. And, you really don’t want to place yourself on the
        wrong side of that. Gun, or no gun.

        • Great post, charleo1!

        • Barbara Morgan

          Great post charleo1 but you are posting to a brick wall . Bailey sees government wrong doing everywhere since President Obama was elected to office.

          • charleo1

            Well, thanks. I agree. A lot of this is about Obama
            being elected. I really don’t blame Bailey. He didn’t
            come to those harebrained conclusions all by himself.
            I blame the irresponsible propagandizing, and the
            inflammable rhetoric of Right Wing media outlets, like
            Fox News. That host idiots like Sean Hannity, or Mike
            Huckabee, that create these Bailies. The danger is,
            one of these neanderthal nuts, they helped create, will

            take that gun, they insist he must have, and we’ll have
            another National tragedy.

    • Jgorish

      I always find it contradictory that those against the Second Amendment find satisfaction in contemplating the deaths of fellow citizens.

      • Michael Kollmorgen

        Nobody, well almost nobody, relishes the idea of people getting killed.

        However, there is a certain group of people who seek to break the law to see what happens. And, that’s exactly what these people are intending to do, IF they actually pull it off. These nuts are going to try to march with LOADED GUNS for crying out loud.

        The local cops and even possibly the national guard is not going to stand by and allow these people to trash our nations capital.

        IF they want trouble, believe me, our law enforcement establishment will certainly give it to them. When that happens, according to our LAWS, they will be CRIMINALS and I hope tried for Treason.

        Remember, the ONLY time you’re not a Traitor is when you win. They won’t win this.

        Abide by our LAWS. If not, get the F out of the country and don’t look back!

        Case Closed………………..

  • charleo1

    So, this is just a little civil disobedience? Armed civil disobedience.
    I see. Okay, this must be due to some grievous infringement, right?
    It can’t be the Second Amendment. Obviously, they have their guns.
    Maybe their State is today, like Alabama was in 1965. 99% White.
    And they feel are being disenfranchised by anything less than, 99%
    Is that it? These fine upstanding, haters of everything government,
    are being robbed of their Right to…Well, I don’t know. But it’s bad.
    Like the march to Selma, across the Edmund Pettus bridge. Where
    some 600 protesters were set upon by State Police, using billie clubs.
    Those protesters were unarmed. If it were possible, who would be in
    favor of giving each side a bit more fire power? Now, that would have
    really put the blood, in bloody Sunday. One commenter here wrote,
    “You elected Obama.” (Duuh) Yes we did. Is that, what this, is truly about?
    The first election served to empower every extremist organization in the
    Country. And the second, calls for no less than armed insurrection?
    That’s not the America I know. The election to the office of President,
    an able, knowledgeable person, that speaks to the issues a great many
    Americans feel are important. And because his color may have set off
    some, heretofore, invisible trip wires to a certain group here, and radical
    reactionists there. Well, maybe I’m wrong. But I thought I was so privileged,
    to be living at a time where I got to watch my Country grow, right before
    my eyes, into the Nation we all hoped it would be someday. But not this.
    We are a better than this.

    • Jgorish

      Alabama was 99% white in 1965? I’m sure blacks in Alabama would be surprised.

      • charleo1

        I should have said, 99% White, registered voter role.

    • Yes the majority of us are better than that, it is the miniorties who don’t want to give up their status quo that isn’t. They are still living in a make believe world of think that saying things that is stupid and dumb is going to scare people into agreeing with them. Never mind the fact that it is not working anymore, that ended with the electing the president and reelected him again. The american people went against the code of the republicans and teaparty and we must pay for that(in their minds at least).
      They really can’t see pass their noses to what is right and what is wrong just as long as they think they are putting fear in the president to make him resign. Not working. This man knows that if he is allow to enter DC with loaded weapons he will be turned back or go to jail and he won’t be able to anything about it. Sure he will have a few who will in the beginning follow him but in the end he will be out there all by himself. The NRA was bragging about their membership but I bet their membership is taking a nose dive right along with this plan march. He needs 10000 and so far only 1500 have sign up to go but the sign up for not going is going up faster than that. The republicans party should be denouncing this but they won’t because they are afraid of the NRA.
      At a time when this country is being held hostages by our people, our enemies find it very entertaining and may even help their cause to destroy the US. Who then will the NRA blame, the president of course for not passing gun laws so the terroists can’t by weapons here. But the truth is they will be just as guilty as those who want to harm us. This man do not care if innocent people lives are taken on that day or few people show up at the momunment for celebrating and that is so sad. Hate is very dangerous and it is always the innocent people who get hurt the most.

      • charleo1

        I agree with everything you said. Especially the part about
        the U.S. being, and deserving much better than the politics
        of fear, and obstruction employed by the extremist, and
        radicals in the T-Party. Backed by the various corporate
        lobbies like the NRA, and ALEC. And yes, there’s no two
        ways about it. There is an element of punishment directed
        aganist the poor, and middle class. Americans already
        disproportionately impacted, by the recession. Personally,
        I believe it constitutes a traitorous act, to purposefully
        govern in such a manner that is detrimental to the Country.
        My bottom line is, a person, or political Party, can’t sink
        much lower than that.

  • Gun ban is D.C. is the equivalent of let the criminals get armed to the teeth.

  • triangle whip

    If you are going to march. Don’t do it with loaded guns. It will give those an excuse to impose martial law..

  • howa4x

    I know some places in DC where the police are afraid to go alone because they are so violent. Maybe the march should go there
    there won’t be an armed insurrection this time because the Blue states will just show Them the door and tell them all not to come back.

  • It is just what they want, violence. They want an excuse to cause violence as if that would convince America that they have a right to bear open and loaded weapons. They want to provoke the violence and resort to a so-called self defense strategy to give an example of resisting “tyranny”. They will find out real quick that when the military is called in, they will have a job to do: to defend America against all enemies domestic or foreign.
    These yahoos ought to realize that their rights to keep and bear arms is a privilege, not a true right, and if they get arrested and convicted, they will have not even the privilege to keep and bear a toothpick.

    • charleo1

      You are exactly right. They want to cause a reaction by
      authorities. Then, claim tyranny, and oppression. What they
      are liable to do, is get a lot of people hurt, or killed. Because
      if you’re nutty enough to show up for this irresponsible, wind
      bag, you’re nutty enough, that your guns need to be confiscated.

    • zrebe

      You really think the Military will follow unconstitutional orders after those same men have stood up to them. You think the Enlisted men don’t know whats really going on…????

      Think again….. if a revolt does happen, go sit with the women, men like you have always been worthless…..!

  • i noticed that everyone is talking about the 2nd amendment, blah blah blah, and as Matt Manzella stated “The framers of the Constitution defined treason narrowly—as the levying
    of war against the U.S. or the giving of aid and comfort to its enemies” somehow, i remember the Declaration of Independence…

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
    that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,
    that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. —
    That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men,
    deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That
    whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is
    the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new
    Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its
    powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their
    Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments
    long established should not be changed for light and transient causes;
    and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed
    to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by
    abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train
    of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a
    design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it
    is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards
    for their future security.”

    now, it states that it is the right, the DUTY of the people to throw off such government.

    on another note…

    doesn’t matter, left wing/right wing… who ever says that we need
    more and stricter gun regulations(more background checks, magazine size
    regulations, etc) because it will become harder for CRIMINALS to get a
    hold of guns… that is a complete load of bullsh!t… it makes it
    harder for the honest person who wants to defend his/her family to own a
    gun. think about it.. do criminals follow laws and regulations? would
    they go through background checks to possess a gun(note that i did not
    say OWN a gun) with the intent to use it for a criminal act?

    • Michael Kollmorgen

      It isn’t the criminal element that is going around shooting up schools and theaters. It is people who legally own guns or have access to them.

      No, I don’t believe new laws will stop the criminal element, never has, never will. But, making firmer laws hopefully will keep them out of the hands of the mentally unstable. Yes, it will slow down the sale of guns. But, the bigger problem is, what do we do about all the guns that already in private hands.

      And, as I said before, the framers of the 2nd amendment was afraid of foreign invasions. That’s why they wanted a well armed militia.

      As far as their statement regarding Tyranny. When our government was founded, it could have been very easily taken over by elites and become tyrannical. But, why bother, the top 10% of our society had and still has everyone else brainwashed into believing the Constitution. The “Elites” has everyone by the balls and hardly a soul notices it.

      The only Tyrannical movement I see happening in our country and worldwide is the Global Corporation(s). This is our biggest problem today. These are the people who are pushing for a One World Government – controlled exclusively by them.

  • Andrew Teter

    July 4th March with loaded weapons — Is this their idea of a “well regulated militia”?

  • zrebe

    I think his message is to the 545 holders of Power minus the Supreme Court, we are not intimidated. Their are men in this country ready to fight and die for liberty.

    As in the Days of George Washington, all the other males put on your skirt go sit with the women and children.

    Lets just hope the Police do not do something stupid, they are not used to situations like this…. rousting junkies, drunks, spouse abusers, thieves and boys and such is what they are for. Not confronting over a thousand armed men.

    Then again, based on what Obama and the crazy Politicians have tried to pull already, including gun control, Obama might just plant a Wild Card in to fire the first round and kick off the Killing.

    Do not put nothing past this Government, As we have seen they will do anything…!