How Chris Christie Is Becoming The Next George W. Bush — With Democrats’ Help

November 3, 2013 1:42 pm Category: LOL Of The Week, Memo Pad, Politics 82 Comments A+ / A-
How Chris Christie Is Becoming The Next George W. Bush — With Democrats’ Help

The GOP has moved so far to the right that the word “moderate” has a new definition: Moderate – n. A Republican who dares to appeal to people who weren’t going to vote Republican anyway.

Given this definition, George W. Bush ran for his first term as president as a moderate.

“I don’t think they ought to balance their budget on the backs of the poor,” Bush said in 1999, as House Republicans were plotting to defer money from the Earned Income Tax credit that was scheduled to go to low-paid workers. He also blasted the House GOP for projecting a ”disdain for government.”

The then-governor of Texas was reacting to a House majority that turned a “Republican Revolution” into two unpopular government shutdowns and an even more unpopular impeachment of an incredibly popular president. Bush’s “compassionate conservatism” was an intentional attempt to distance himself from the irascible politics of former Speaker Newt Gingrich, who had been caught in public admitting that he wanted to let Medicare “wither on the vine.”

The governor knew that as anxious as his party’s base was to be done with the Clintons, the country didn’t want the divisive, revenge-happy House GOP in the White House. They wanted someone who was a “uniter not a divider,” as W. described himself, over and over.


The truth was that in 1999, George W. Bush had the credentials to back up his appeal beyond the GOP base. He won almost half of his state’s Latino vote when he was re-elected in 1998 and made the traditionally Democratic wheelhouse of education a central theme of his campaign. He also had the conservative credentials and last name to safely make these appeals to conservatives, who would probably have nominated an actual elephant in 2000 if it was pro-life and could beat Al Gore.

Bush steamrolled over a weak Republican field and was competitive enough with Gore that the Republican Supreme Court gave him the least convincing presidential “victory” in American history. The “uniter” acted as if he had a mandate bigger than Ronald Reagan’s and went on to immediately blow Clinton’s hard-won surplus while dividing the country in seemingly irreparable ways. His complete lack of foreign policy experience was exploited by hawks determined to justify huge military spending, and the rest is history.

In 2013, Governor Chris Christie (R-NJ) is trudging down the George W. Bush path to the presidency — and no one seems to be noticing.

Actually, Democrats appear to be going out of their way to help the governor rack up the kind of landslide with the kind of support from non-white voters that made Bush’s nomination inevitable. In unison, it seems, Democrats are refusing to call out how Christie’s failed policies that favor the rich, while bullying workers and women, have resulted in an 8.5 percent unemployment rate – tied with Mississippi and Tennessee for 41st in the nation – along with little improvement to the state’s miserable bond rating.

In fact, the only politicians who have landed any blows on the governor were on Mitt Romney’s VP vetting team.

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  • Carol Dijkhuyzen

    But if he runs I will not vote for him…he stays in NJersey,that’s it.I still can’t forget the way he yelled to one Veteran and called him an idiot!

    • Eleanore Whitaker

      If you think that was bad, you have to hear what he called a woman who attended one of his public meetings. She asked a relatively sensible question he didn’t want to answer. He also made the public statement that as a leader he has to be the “boss.” Reeks of autocracy and typical GOP authoritarianism.

  • John Pigg

    This articles title should read “We don’t like Christie”.

    There is nothing tying Christie to George W. Bush. Except that they are both conservatives who aren’t jerks.

    • sigrid28

      Democrats–indeed all Americans–should beware Christie as a presidential candidate in 2016. As a president, the article points out, he would be no better than George W. Bush–likable though he may be as the governor of a Democratic state like New Jersey. We need this hard lesson knocked into our heads until we get it.

      • John Pigg

        The only thing the article said they had in common was that Christie and Bush were both practical conservatives.

        It wasn’t comparing any of their policy positions or anything else of note. It sounds like the writer is upset that Christie will win his gubernatorial race.

    • Sand_Cat

      I gather you’re not a Democrat.
      Maybe you don’t consider lying the country into war that killed hundreds of thousands, blowing a surplus (however ephemeral) to a gigantic deficit, allowing the nation to be attacked in spite of warnings, and a long, long list of other things “being a jerk,” but I’m not sure what that phrase means, if it doesn’t apply to Bush at a bare minimum.
      Christie “reformed” the NJ pension system by simply screwing employees out of what they were promised. Think that’s OK? Think Mr. Christie would have taken it sitting down if a client did it to him when he was in private practice? He’s also spent his time shafting the poor and protecting billionaires in typical GOP fashion, and much more than I can list. He’s loud and obnoxious and intolerant of any disagreement. Again, “Jerk” sounds like the minimum.
      Bush lied his way into office by posing as a moderate, was a right-wing religious zealot who thought himself chosen by god. Christie looks to be cut out of the same stuff, except he’s a LOT smarter than Bush.

      • John Pigg

        As far as the state is concerned, I am a consistent Democratic voter.

        Your post proceeds to point out concerning policies of the Bush administration. Christie has yet to support these policies in any meaningful way.

        You proceed to criticize Christie’s policies which you do not like. Your post was significantly more thought out and offered specific issues to discuss, unlike the article that merely implied Bush and Christie are the same because he isn’t a TP Republican.

        The article was pretty terrible your post was not….

      • plc97477

        I don’t think christie is as much of a religious nut but he is more devious and underhanded that bush also.

        • Sand_Cat

          Actually, I think I detect a whiff of Torquemada Santorum just waiting to get out, but he isn’t as much of a nutcase (I hope).

      • RobertCHastings

        If you are from Jew Jersey, as several posters here seem to be, then you need to join with your compatriots in showing this warm, fuzzy bunny is not, really, a warm fuzzy bunny. Remember how the rabbit in Monty Python’s”The Holy Grail” handled the Round Table and King Arthur? Not all bunnies are what they may appear.

      • bhaggen

        They’re politicians; they ALL lie to gain or maintain power. “Let me repeat. If you like your doctor, you’ll be able to keep your doctor. If you like your health insurance, you can KEEP your health insurance” “It wasn’t an act of terror, it was a spontaneous demonstration over a YouTube video!”

        • Sand_Cat

          Not quite in the same league as killing hundreds of thousands of people and appointing right-wing zealots to lifetime judicial positions.

          • bhaggen

            And innocent people by the thousands continue to die under President Obama. We’re still in Afghanistan, he took the U.S. into Libya, killed Ambassador Stevens & would have taken the U.S. into Syria if Putin hadn’t stepped in. So much for the hope & change I voted for in 08.

          • Sand_Cat

            “Thousands” is just a bit of an exaggeration, and somehow, I suspect no one but the unhinged would suggest he “killed Ambassador Stevens” with a straight face. I voted for change in 2008, then for the Greens in 2012 because we didn’t really get it, but I know enough to realize that – with all his faults – Obama is a huge improvement on his predecessor, as well as on any of the Republican alternatives. The unfortunate fact is that Obama is probably the best we’re going to get for quite awhile.
            I certainly hope you have better sense than to vote for Christie or Cruz or any of the other nutcases the Republicans have to offer. If you do, we’ll likely get change, but it won’t be change I – or probably, you – can believe in.

          • bhaggen

            Exaggeration? The Obama administration is responsible for at least 18,274 air strikes in Afghanistan since 2009, including at least 1,160 by pilotless drones. If you think those strikes didn’t translate into casualties, you are highly delusional. You stated that Bush killed hundreds of thousands of people; it would therefore be more than fair to say that Obama killed Stevens as he did take the U.S. into Libya, right?

          • Sand_Cat

            I happen to agree that going after Gaddafi at this point was unnecessary, and even petty, and I’m not a fan of bombing people to “free” them (there’s a great bumper stick showing bombs falling against and American flag background that reads “We’re gonna free the shit out of you,” by the way), but I don’t think Obama’s actions in Libya are at all comparable to those taken by Bush in Iraq, and don’t rise to the level of justifying accusing Obama of “killing” the ambassador. I think we had an embassy in Libya before the intervention, and I don’t recall any evidence establishing that those who stormed the consulate were definitely Libyans angry at US intervention, but yes, there is room for disagreement about the level of culpability necessary to accuse someone of murder.
            I still say that all of Obama’s mistakes and bad actions do not add up to anything even remotely like justification for voting for one of the lunatics the GOP puts forward, but you’ll obviously make your own decision on that.

          • bhaggen

            I was in high school when Lyndon Johnson ramped up Vietnam. He decided the U.S. could win that one by “bombing the Gooks back to the stone age” & “body counts” were the order of the day. It became a war of attrition & by the time Nixon finally pulled us out, 60,000 Americans, including my buddies Toby & Bob, came back in body bags. Over 1 million Vietnamese were killed so the military got the kill ratio that was expected of them; but they just kept coming & all the senseless carnage took it’s toll on our boys that made it back in one piece. So I venture to say that Johnson, a democrat, was a better killer than GW & Obama put together. The U.S. closed it’s embassy in the 70s & reopened it before GW left office. Let’s face it; Obama announced to the world that he took out Bin Laden & he had Al-Qaeda on the run. That’s why his ego came up with the story blaming the attack on a YouTube video. There was no spontaneous demonstration going on. Some “demonstrators” just happened to show up with RPGs!

          • Sand_Cat

            Don’t see anything in your response that disagrees with mine.
            For whatever it’s worth, neither Johnson nor Obama started their wars; at least in Obama’s case, that makes equating the people who died in Iraq to those killed in Libya a bit over the top, if only in the numbers: 200,000+ vs 4 (or, if only Americans count, 4,000+ to 4). I made no claim that those who stormed the consulate were spontaneous demonstrators: my point was that they may well have attacked our consulate regardless of our intervention; it’s been done before, which I’m sure is no surprise to you.

          • bhaggen

            That’s called “pass the buck” & we can’t give our politicians a free pass on that. Like a bunch of kids; “But she started it Mom” Stop blaming the last guy! Move on! 75% of casualties in Afghanistan happened on the current watch. Even the ancient Persian Empire bypassed Afghanistan. Not you, but Obama and/or Hillary made the claim that the consulate was attacked by spontaneous demonstrators. Who cares how many innocents were killed! The U.S. kills >60,000 children a year! If somehow with all our technology we could figure out a method of preventing unwanted pregnancies. Hmmmmm, somehow my wife & I figured it out.

          • Sand_Cat

            The “scandal” over the alleged failure to correctly describe the Benghazi incident doesn’t even qualify for “tempest in a teapot,” and you don’t seem like the type to be sucked in by that. Otherwise, I can’t disagree with your post, but – with all his warts and weaknesses – Obama seems to me a vast improvement over almost any president in my lifetime (Carter may have been a better man, but not a better president, and Clinton was even more of a conservative, plus the embarrassing behavior after the exposure of his choice of sexual partners), and it sounds like I’m about as old as you. There are a few other people I’d like to see give the office a try, but none I can think of are likely to get elected any time soon.
            It seems like neglect of the poor at home and slaughter of innocents abroad are permanent fixtures of American domestic and foreign policy, regardless of who is president. Even Carter can be blamed for the beginnings of the terrorist campaign in Nicaragua and funding our friends the Islamic “freedom fighters” in Afghanistan who were apparently fighting for the “freedom” to abuse women and murder dissidents even more than the occupying Soviets did.

          • bhaggen

            The “scandal” over the alleged break-in at the Watergate Hotel didn’t qualify for “tempest in a teapot” either, but the cover-up that followed was more than enough for a man of principal like myself to drop tricky Dick Nixon like a bad habit, even though I supported him in the previous election. When he looked us in the eye & lied, I was DONE with him. Oh sure Embassies had been attacked before, but they were instantaneous bomb attacks & responders were there within minutes. The Benghazi attack lasted for over 6 hours, help WAS requested, but never came. THAT is unacceptable. I’m not blaming the President but someone dropped the ball. I guess “Transparency” went by the way of “hope & change”. If you feel it’s OK to sweep this shit under the rug, you are part of the problem. Hopefully next time this shit will go down under a Republican administration; then you & I will be on the same accountability page…..At least GW was good for a laugh.

          • Sand_Cat

            What I said above still stands; comparing everything to Watergate is another sign of the unreality of the GOP; they’ve never gotten over it, and everything that any Dem president has done since has been “worse than Watergate.”
            I wouldn’t feel it’s OK to “sweep this shit under a rug” if I thought there were any shit worth seeing involved. And no, I think you wouldn’t find me joining you if it were a GOP president, not about this, anyway.
            There are enough things going on without blowing the trivia out of proportion: the NSA crap and the continuing renditions, renewal of the “Patriot” act, FISA abuses, and on and on, and if there were a GOP president, the abuses would likely expose once again the fact that most of the “scandals” of this administration are in fact trivial by comparison. Suppressing votes, seriously threatening secession, continuing lack of racial justice – a big part of the current administration’s problems – attempts to prevent access to birth control of any kind, then whining about the resulting abortions, more and more intrusion into our daily lives, more deregulation of industries which have repeatedly shown they need to be watched every second and heavily regulated, more tax cuts for billionaires and abuse of the poor; these are only some of the things we can expect in coming administrations. It looks like we aren’t going to reach a rapprochement on this, but it’s been good to talk.

          • Sand_Cat

            Forgot to include this. I suppose it’s really rather tragic, but I thought it is right on, and I have to laugh.

          • bhaggen

            Bitchen, I’ll add it to my repertoire

  • Joe

    “christie is my kind of man” david koch

    • ChrisArc

      Yes, A fat republican that has probably ate enough Big Macs to fill a semi!

  • Michael Ross

    If Christie really wanted to be, or thought he could become, the President, he would have made his run in 2012 when moderates all over the country were begging him to.

    First, as you pointed out, Christie would have to win the G.O.P. primary the same way Romney did: By taking a very hard (and very public) swing to the right since, following the Tea Party takeover of the G.O.P., most American “moderates” can no longer stomach the G.O.P. enough to take part in its primaries anymore.

    Christie would be forced to appeal pretty much exclusively to fanatics during this time. Just like Romney, he would be the primary’s punching bag as all the other hardliners attack him for having a Senatorial special election and accepting aid after Hurricane Sandy. And, just like Romney, his greatest chance at winning would be to come off as so phony that the hardliners interpret him as someone who could dupe Democrats into voting for him.

    That, in turn, would result in Christie being viewed the same way Romney was in 2012: As a smarmy two-faced career politician who has no care in the world except to get elected. Throw in Christie’s short temper and repulsive demeanor and I would expect him to lose by an even greater margin than Romney.

    The other factor is that, frankly, he seems to be already aware of this. Most politicians who are considering running in 2016 will flash a phony salesman smile into the camera when they’re asked about presidential prospects, whereas Christie looks more like a deer in the headlights.

    Christie, for all intents and purposes, is content being the Governor of New Jersey, a position he would likely lose following his very public swing to the right during his failed Presidential run.

    • John Pigg

      Why in the world would anyone with any sense have run in 2012. The field was wide, the front runner had enormous amounts of stockpiled funds, a cadre of campaign staffers, and numerous other advantages.

      The true moderate in the GOP quit after NH. Why would Christie an untried Gov, run for the Presidency in 2012 with a wide field of contenders, and limited experience.

      All conventional wisdom points that staying out of 2012 was a great call on his part.

      • Michael Ross

        Because there were two things that Romney didn’t have:

        1) Any kind of appeal whatsoever beyond looking like somebody who could convince stupid Democrats to vote for him.
        2) Any competition.

        Romney’s competition for the 2012 primary nomination were Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum, Rick Perry, Michele Bachmann, Herman Cain, Ron Paul, and John Huntsman. And despite the laughable quality of that competition, Romney, at one point or another, polled behind all but the last two. America really, REALLY didn’t want Mitt Romney, so much so that they latched onto every single candidate first.

        • John Pigg

          You are focusing on Romney s weaknesses.

          As a candidate he had a lot of strengths. Yes, he suffered from “unlikability” but he had the biggest name, an already functioning campaign team, and money.

          His conservative opponents were split between 3-4 different candidates.

          It was a brilliant move for Christie to stay away from 2012. The reason for the weak field is that anyone with any sense stayed away. Every single politician you mentioned except for maybe Paul, and Huntsman have seen their brands weakened drastically.

          • Michael Ross

            Except that none of those strengths could compensate for the fact that everybody thought he was a greedy two-faced douche. Romney consistently polled in second place because the preferred candidate was “anyone but Mitt.”

            Which is why the people of Iowa bounced from Bachmann to Gingrich to Cain to Perry to Santorum: Because they kept clinging to the hope that at least one of them, under scrutiny, would prove better than Romney.

            Romney will be best remembered as the first political challenger to ever have a larger war chest than the incumbent president, yet who inexplicably still managed to lose.

            That war chest, by the way, would have been all Christie’s had he run. Romney got the nomination from a G.O.P. network that ultimately decided the only thing that mattered was that the next president be a Republican; everyone that had donated to Gingrich and Santorum, even people who absolutely despised Romney, ultimately did donate to Romney.

          • John Pigg

            The GOP didn’t dislike Romney because of his wealth. They disliked him because he hailed from Mass. He wasn’t conservative enough. And his state Healthplan was similar to the ACA.

            Romney’s war chest wasn’t made on the backs of numerous small donors but on the Large Super PAC’s and big money.

            I don’t think you can say that Christie would have clenched the nom had he entered. He suffered limited name recognition, little experience, and limited backing.

            You really think he could have pulled it off? At least we can agree that Romneys campaign wasn’t run very well.

    • omgamike

      I would never vote for Christie. He’s a bully — rude, insulting, has a short temper and, when criticized, is sharply defensive. For the life of me, I cannot figure out why the Democrats in New Jersey continue to support this man. Do they not see the crappy condition of their state? If he runs and Americans vote him into the Presidency, then I lose all hope for this country’s future.

      • Annemb

        Great post!

      • bhaggen

        For a second there, I thought for sure you were talking about President Obama!

    • RobertCHastings

      I don’t think Christie would do a thing to change his public persona in the coming Republican primaries. He may be the force to pull the Republican party back to the center. He has made too many allies to feign Tea Party in the primaries, and then try to moderate during the general election. Republicans will vote for him because he is who he is. If he tries to change, like Romney did, for the primaries, he won’t win in the primaries. If he stays who he is, he will blow them all out of the water, only to lose in the general election, and become Secretary of Fast Foods under Clinton.

  • idamag

    I’ve always thought Christie was smarter than Bush. Rick Perry reminds me more of Dubya.

    • Mark Forsyth

      Maybe,but I think it’s a case of six of one,and a half dozen of the other.

  • Buford2k11

    “He doesn’t seem as if he detests you for not being a rich, white conservative.” No, only if you eat, breath, and disagree with the guy…

  • Jack Hughes

    Is the qualification for New Jersey governor being a successful insult comic or something? If that’s it, go ahead and elect Chris Christie.

    By all other standards the guy’s just a typical right-wing asshole.

  • bernieo

    The MSM loves Christie just like they did Dubya. This is the same media that trashes Dems whenever they seem rude.
    What I really can’t understand is how this guy who is praised as a fiscal conservative got a pass for costing his state over 12 million for that special election a couple of weeks ago when it is clear that he did it just to help him win today by a bigger margin than he would if all those Dems who support Booker come out. Millions of taxpayer dollars just to further his chances to run for President and he gets a pass? Disgusting. I hope the Dems show up in full force this time but I am not putting money on it.

  • Budjob

    There is one thing and one thing only that is wrong with Christie.HE is a REPUBLICAN,and don’t you forget it!!

  • FT66

    Anyone who thinks Christie is a moderate must think again. This man is so smart and he knows very well how to manipulate people. Those days of hurricane Sandy he knew for sure that he needed help for his people who will help in re-electing him, then he played nice to the President. God forbid, if something of such a nature can happen now, do anyone think he will act the same? In other words he is an opportunist.

  • FT66

    Unfortunately am not fond of this man, Christie. He is a man full of temper. Folks, be afraid with people of this kind of behaviour, once they are in power, it becomes even more worse.

    • Mark Forsyth

      Christie has the capacity to be a petty tyrant.Governor is as high an office as he should occupy.

  • Eleanore Whitaker

    You want the highest taxes in the country? Then, you’ll love Christie’s game of “dodge ‘em” and hand the Biggest US Business more tax dollars like all GOP bull tyrants always do. I live in NJ. I know better than anyone after 66 years in this state how the subtle games of the GOP are a detriment to the Middle Class. All anyone EVER needs to know about Christie is that he’s a closet member of that TX billionaire founded bois club, “Americans for Prosperity (theirs, never yours.)” He can’t win against Hillary because Americans have had enough of the Shut Down bois, the Sequestration Bois and the Attack the Middle Class and Jack the Wealth of the 1% bois. No more right wingers in the White House. First Hillary…then Cory Booker. Then and only then will enough time have passed to consider a GOP candidate for president. Till then, the GOP can kiss White House hopes goodbye and adios amigos.

  • CooofNJ

    Today NJ voters are overwhelmingly predicted to return Christie to Drumthwacket for another 4 years. For the life of me I simply can’t figure out why. I didn’t vote for him (I thought Corzine was doing what he promised, which was reorganizing NJ finances slowly but rationally and so was due more time) but I was willing to let him try to beat our constiuency in the head if it would get us on the right track. Now I can’t honestly think of a single thing, with the exception of accepting FEMA money and not dissing Obama post-Sandy, that he has done right. He touts a “balanced budget”. Okay, besides the fact that it is a mandate by the state constitution, one of the “tricks” he used to do that was to reduce/eliminate homestead (property tax) rebates and earned income tax credits, which 100% is taking money away from poor – and in the meantime claiming he never raised taxes and refuses to even think about a tax on rich people (I am middle class and don’t fall into either camp here). Think about it – in the height of the worse recession in decades, he takes money out of the pockets of poor people and touts that as a “success” – and they are going to overwhelmingly return him to office for thieving them blind! The additional smoke and mirrors of his decisions during his reign are similar and just as disgusting.

    He is not a politician – he is a Svengali who through bluster and bullshit has pulled the wool over so many peoples eyes it is astonishing. I don’t know if a national conversation on his tragic and completely unnecessary legacy would make any difference, but at some point people have to wake up to the fact that the emperor has no clothes.

    • RobertCHastings

      Maybe Theresa Caputo would consent to being drafted.

    • dave jones

      nice. dont know why blue nj is birthing this beast on the rest of us.

    • Germansmith

      You are aware that Jon Corzine is a crook? Yes, he is a Democrat and maybe that is a redeeming factor in your eyes….BUT he is a thief.
      Did he became a thief after being Governor….OR was he a thief all along?

      • CooofNJ

        Well, I do know that today the NYTimes reported that MFS Global has paid back 100% of the money clients lost during the meltdown of his company. I have no great love for Corzine, but it seemed to me that when the critical problem in NJ is financial structure you “hire” someone who knows about structuring finance. And since Christie took office our ratings have been downgraded and we have done nothing (regardless of his bluster to that effect) to address the long-term structural debt problems. Nah, I don’t think being a Dem is a redeeming factor. I think the case for Corzine being a hard ball finance guy is pretty strong, but I don’t know that the case for him being an outright “crook” is lock solid.

      • nirodha

        And how about Bernie Madoff? Christie was a lobbyist for a Madoff financial organization prior to becoming governor. What did Christie know about Madoff’s schemes, and when did he know?

  • Germansmith

    And the Left Propaganda machine starts the dirt tossing way ahead of time.
    The Target…a guy that is not even running.
    I guess is good to start early stirring up the mob……

    • awakenaustin

      So, simply being opposed to a Republican, and then arguing his record makes him very conservative and not someone Democrats should support, is propaganda, dirt tossing and mob stirring up? Amazing.
      Christie is running and only the willfully blind suggest otherwise.

      • Germansmith

        Comparing Christie to Bush (a clearly unpopular President at this time) is the equivalent of comparing Lincoln to Taft. Yes, they are both Republicans, they are both white guys and there, all the similarities end.
        Christie just won convincible in a Democratic State…and that have Democratic strategists and partisans scared so they are starting the “draw the similarities game” as to try to inoculate Democrats (the readers of this stuff here) from being seduced of voting for a guy that actually solve problems and can be bipartisan instead of somebody that will sink us deeper into a welfare state.
        I hope Christie runs (he will probably not win the primaries, because if somebody is more brainless that tea parties, I do not know them yet).
        I like Hillary, but she is damaged goods to me by her support of Obama and serving as his SS……..
        and save the insults….they will not get a reply from me

        • awakenaustin

          No. He was simply saying Christie like Bush was a strongly conservative politician and would, just like Bush offer himself as a moderate, when he was in fact a not a moderate. That is all he said. The rest is your imagination.
          “Convincible” ? I am going to assume that is a typo and not some new word you made up.
          The only thing frightening about Christie is that some might believe he is a moderate. The point of the article.
          Insults do work which is why you hand them out, otherwise,
          I would have to assume you don’t think calling those, whose opinions you don’t share,a dirt tossing propagandist mob is not a insult.
          You are funny man.

          • Germansmith

            point taken. Mob is not an insult, but it is depictive of a mass of angry uneducated people…maybe poorly used…everything else fit.

            Convincible is a real word, but not what I wanted to use
            I meant “convincingly”…spell checkers can be tricky if used in a hurry.
            Compare to others in the GOP, Christie is almost a progressive.
            Progressive is a badly used term. Progress is supposed to be an improvement of status quo, not just something different and not so good.
            What you consider progress, I may consider a downward slip. Having lived under Communism, Fascism, and supposedly progressive populist political parties like PRI in Mexico, I have seem all these strategies and political plays before and I know where they aim to lead.

          • awakenaustin

            I know what a mob is and I know people don’t call others members of a mob as a sign of respect or praise.
            Editing is always a good idea.
            Christie is by no one’s definition a progressive. The fact that he may appear as a moderate, “progressive?” is merely a sign of how far rightward the center of the Republican Party has drifted.
            Progress and Progressive are not synonymous. You don’t make much head way using the definition of “progress” as criticism of what is intended to indicate a cluster of political ideas.
            Progressive does not equal communism does not equal fascism does not equal the PRI. (The PRI-a political party-may be corrupt, but it is hardly communist or fascist.) Please do not conflate broadly different political ideologies, with political movements and then with political parties and argue they are the same. It is intellectually dishonest, it robs words of their explanatory value, and obscures more than it illuminates. You may dislike and choose to think living under either communist rule or fascist rule or PRI rule is a piece of crap without pretending they are all the same thing. Since they clearly are not.
            Folks who claim that President Obama is a socialist (I am not suggesting that you are saying such things) are either dumber than a box of rocks or they are intentionally distorting reality for some ‘base’ political motive.
            You used ‘seem’ when you meant seen and ‘play’ when I think you meant ploy. Editing really does help.

    • omgamike

      There you go again! Christie isn’t going to run just like Hillary isn’t going to run. Open your eyes and you will clearly see it. Haven’t you noticed he has started to lose weight? Why? Because he knows two things – - first, a Presidential campaign would stress his body in unimaginable ways, so weight loss ahead of time would be almost a physical necessity. Second, he knows that it is highly unlikely that he could be voted into national office when he is morbidly obese. Not just obese, but morbidly so.

      And why do you think the GOP is already starting their attacks on Hillary, who also ‘isn’t even running yet’? They’re starting as early as they can to try and define Hillary because they know she will be running — and will be the democrat to beat.

      • Germansmith

        We had fat/obese Presidents before and this is the country that elected a black guy that had a Kenyan father, Muslim upbringing, had no real executive or business experience and was senator for just a few months.
        To elect Barack we needed a real bad president before him (check)
        A bad economy with very little prospects of rebounding (check)
        a house controlled by your opponents (check)
        And America is full of people struggling with weight issues (check)
        and I do not see Christie take as many vacations as Obama does
        Hello President Christie !!!! (if he is running)
        Hillary is running, she has been running since 08 and when she decided to distance herself from Obama when the world decided Obama was not that pretty after all…..I be willing to put $20 on the line for that.

    • nirodha

      And of course none of the TPotty noise machine has started shitting on Hillary yet. Sauce for the goose, GSmith.

      • Germansmith

        And there you are !!! I was wondering how long before you came out from underneath the rock.
        You know Hillary is running, right?

        • nirodha

          Well, if Hillary is running, she probably saw you. Can you blame her? Any intelligent woman would run as fast as possible if she spotted you.

          • Germansmith

            Really. Is this the best you can do?
            Where did you pick this up, from the Facebook pages of a high school girl?

  • Mark Forsyth

    The GOP T party is a bunch of snakes that currently are snapping at each other.There is no way you are going to pull a warm fuzzy bunny out of that viper pit no matter how fat and cuddly it may look.They may shed their skins but they never stop being snakes and this type is poisonous.

    • dave jones

      true. haha

    • nirodha

      That is insulting…to snakes!

  • Pamby50

    The democratic party in NJ has failed their party nominee. That many of them are actually helping Christie is an insult. He is just a bully. He yells and insults people who don’t agree with him. That they allowed him to set up 2 different elections so that he would not be on the ballot with Corey Booker. In 2016 this is going to come home to roost.


    What? Get Serious!

    So Christie is going to strap on and defeat Hillary in 2016?

    You can run Jeb Bush and Christie in tandem and Mrs. Clinton will beat their combined scores.

    Face it Republicans, the GOP has simply grown old, out of touch, and as recent events have indicated, virtually useless. Time to turn off the lights and call it a day.

  • RobertCHastings

    So, are they saying this is shaping up to be a three-party race? Spoilers in the past like Ross Perot, Ralph Nader, and George Wallace managed to skew results enough to at least make the elections interesting. Hopefully the third party candidate (Rand Paul, Paul Ryan, Sarah Palin?) will draw enough votes away from the Republican party to make Clinton a shoo-in. However, unlike New Jersey, which requires only a plurality to win the governorship, the presidency requires a majority. Lacking a majority of the popular vote (and electoral vote), the race could be decided in the House, which, with the current configuration, could prove disastrous for the country.

  • Joe

    Ann Coulter appeared on Fox Business Network’sThe Willis Report and wasn’t shy about expressing her admiration for New Jersey Governor Chris Christie, gushing “I love him so much.”

    • nirodha

      That’s it; Christie’s screwed! With friends like Coulter, who needs enemies?

  • howa4x

    Christie won for 2 reasons. In NJ we have a cynical and corrupt democratic party that made a deal with him, and secondly men in this state think of themselves as tough guys and are proud of the nickname the Soprano state some from a heritage standpoint and others from a lunch pail standpoint. They like how Christie beats up on the bureaucracy since we live in an over regulated state with more municipal government than any other state. Bouno got no support from the national democrats and neither Obama nor Booker made any speeches on her behalf, and both should be ashamed of themselves. Christie held a special senate election 3 weeks before the gubernatorial one which costs the state taxpayers 17 million dollars, to hold down the democratic turnout for Booker that could also go for Bouno. The democratic party went along with it. They gave up on their candidate and walked away. I will never give the democratic party in NJ another penny for this shameless display, and Booker won’t get another vote from my family for his sellout. I’m happy I became a registered independent since both parties suck. As for Christie he has done enough to appeal to the tea party including the defunding of planned parenthood to not get much support from real committed democrats. It is only the national press that has created this moderate myth. Christie is doing everything to win support from the tea party and will move further to the right this year. He even vetoed his own Gun legislation because the tea party in NH said they wouldn’t support him if he signed it, so forget the myth that he will stand up to them. He is all smoke and mirrors and don’t be fooled for one minute about who he is.

  • Fukuppy

    Just because someone identifies as a Democrat or a Republican, or as liberal or conservative, should not stop them from voting for someone who they believe would be an effective president.

    With today’s distinct polarization of Dems and Repubs into each other’s worst nightmare, surely America SHOULD be looking for politicians who can bridge the divide and get both parties working together for the good of the country.

    Perhaps because I lean left it appears to me that 80% of the GOP’s efforts and energy are channeled into character assassination and demonization of the Dems. Someone on the other side of the fence would probably make a counter argument that Dems are devoting 80% of their efforts and energies into leading America down the socialist garden path to destruction.
    When I read online comments where god-fearing flag-wavers refer to President Obama as a “koran-licking commie Kenyan Muslim brotherhood Manchurian candidate” I become convinced that Americans on either side can never come together to do the business of running the country.

    Perhaps it is time for a moderate Republican to bring Americans closer together.
    I certainly can’t see any similar Democratic hopefuls on the immediate horizon.

  • bhaggen

    Truth is; BOTH parties have moved to their extremes. Today, JFK would be considered a GOP moderate.

  • obibecker

    Christie reminds me of Spiro T Agnew, Gov of MD and Nixon’s VP attack dog vs liberals, and inventor of the successful propaganda meme, “silent majority”, ie people incapable of speaking out against war with no apparent end or purpose – who wave the flag if you blow a dog whistle. Christie can do the attack dog role as someone’s VP. He cant win GOP primaries due to the fact that reactionaries turn out in droves for primaries. He will be some reactionary presidential candidate’s pet VP attack dog. A smarter Palin. The real battle will be between Ted Cruz and Paul Ryan. The Koch money will support the candidates closest to the John Birch Society’s ideals.

    • Fukuppy

      Surely Ted Cruz can’t be elected president?
      He was born in Canada.

      • Germansmith

        Canada is part of the US
        We just have not told them yet. Let them dream for a while….
        If William Shatner can be Captain of the Enterprise, Why not Cruz as President?

        • Sand_Cat

          Well said!

  • Dr. Mark Bear

    Most aware and informed Americans realize that while Christie has achieved a major victory in his home state of New Jersey, he did so premised on his standing with the people of his state with regards to Hurricane Sandy. Everything beyond this, pales in comparison to this one act. And just because he stood with people during a Hurricane does not a good President make. Why?

    Because the current GOP, no matter what the naysayers predict, must contend with one specific fact: The Tea Party continues to “control” the GOP, and without the Tea Party’s approval the man will not receive the nomination. Even if he should, there will continue to be such turmoil within the party, that it will be much like the previous election cycle whereby people within the party continued questioning Romney’s credentials forcing the man to say he was “severely conservative.” But words and actions when disparate make a difference with this crowd. Care to doubt me? Look at how many critics have voiced their negative opinions towards Christie due to his not speaking in Virginia. It speaks volumes, which is why as a Democrat, I do not worry at all! The Tea Party will ruin any moderate’s chances for winning!

    • nirodha

      Well put. However, I think that the TPotty will ruin any republican’s chances for winning. If the republican party is to survive (and the jury’s still out) it must somehow divest itself of the TPotty. Putting them in historical context, the TP is reminiscent of the Know-Nothing party back in the 1850s. They had their knickers all in a twist because of the immigration of Irish-Catholics into the American midwest and northeast, and Chinese into California. They actually ran a candidate for president back then, (who naturally got trounced) and then disappeared into the dustbin of history. One hopes that the same fate awaits the current crop of loonies.

  • Timothy Paich

    If he wins the election to be the next president the United States is the land of stupidity. He’s very selfish. With the votes he got this year New Jersey should be called the dumb and stupid state. He should be forced to resign for his selfishness. People don’t see into issues with politicians and they even think those issues with them are non sense. We need Hilary Clinton as president.

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