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Friday, October 28, 2016

My friend Isatou has just received an invoice from Kaiser Permanente, testament to her new coverage through the Affordable Care Act — usually called “Obamacare.” She’s thrilled to finally have health insurance so she can get regular checkups, including dental care.

A reasonably healthy middle-aged woman, she knows she needs routine mammograms and screenings for maladies such as hypertension. But before Obamacare, she struggled to pay for those things. She once had to resort to the emergency room, which left her with a bill for nearly $20,000. (She settled the bill for far less, but it still left her deeply in debt.)

She is one of more than 7 million people who have signed up for health insurance through the ACA, stark evidence of the overwhelming market demand. Despite a badly bungled initial rollout, a multimillion-dollar conservative media campaign designed to discourage sign-ups, and a years-long Republican crusade against it (50 votes to change the law), millions got health insurance.

That hardly means Obamacare is a raging success. It’s much too early to know how it will affect health outcomes for the previously uninsured. But it’s abundantly clear that the ACA has already made great strides in improving access to health care. And that alone is quite an accomplishment.

Now, young adults can stay on their parents’ health insurance policies until they are 26 years old — a boon in an economy where many young folks are struggling to find decent jobs. Now, patients with previously diagnosed illnesses (“pre-existing conditions,” in insurance lingo) can’t be denied coverage. Now, the chronically ill don’t have to worry about hitting a lifetime cap that would deny them essential procedures or pharmaceuticals. Now, working folks who don’t get insurance through their employers can purchase affordable policies.

Factoring in the Medicaid expansion, the ACA has extended health care coverage to an additional 9.5 million people, according to the Los Angeles Times, which gathered data from national surveys. Needless to say, millions more would have been covered if so many Republican governors, mostly located in Southern states, had not callously refused to accept the Medicaid expansion despite the fact that it is largely paid through federal government funds.

  • Joseph

    Obama is black. he was elected twice to the prsidnecy. He passed a law that the conservatives named after him and the law is becoming more and more popular each day. He is ending our involvement in the middle east and the conservatives hate nothing more than stopping a war. He has shown great restraint in dealing with their tantrums, idiocy and hysteria.

    So what’s not to hate?

    • 1EdMeadows83

      Also, He’s black.

      • Allan Richardson

        Also he’s mixed race. Some of them are probably more enraged at his mixed race (how DARE a pretty white girl marry a super-dark black man from AFRICA?) than at his visible skin color. That’s the worst thing about blacks to them, “polluting” the master … I mean “white” … race blood line.

        • dpaano

          No wonder most conservatives want to believe in creationism rather than evolution……they don’t want to believe that the first human came from Africa!! They continue to think that we came from some peaceful place (Eden) and that Eve screwed up (because they believe women do that a lot), etc. Unfortunately, for those of us in the know, that didn’t happen and is merely a “pretty” story.

    • geoelb

      Hate seems to be drected at the failure of the Republican part to elect a president twice in a row. While he is successful, Obama is the target of their self hate~!

  • Ford Truck

    “Irrational hatred of Obamacare is hard to fathom.” So is racism, homophobia, misogyny, fundamentalist religion, and many other things the Retardlicans are so fond of!! I’ve heard anti-Obamacare rants that utilized all of these ugly features of the far-right!

    • Sand_Cat

      Well said. Exactly what I was thinking.

    • Dominick Vila

      All we have to do is take a close look at the crowd in the photo included in this article to understand what is really behind the overt hatred directed at anything that President Obama does. After that, read the signs they are holding and it is not too difficult to realize their intellectual acumen, or lack thereof. All three signs highlight claims that are inconsistent with reality. President Obama has not said or done anything to divide America. Advancing a concept conceived by The Heritage Foundation should be the last thing a right wing zealot should claim. That is, unless they are incapable of rational thinking and too ignorant to understand what they are saying and how inconsistent it is with reality. The ACA is not interfering with the healthcare plans of most Americans, which are usually company-provided plans. In fact, it encourages our business community to continue to provide healthcare coverage as part of their benefit package. The “individual plans” that had to be changed to better plans to meet minimum ACA standards of coverage affected less than 1% of our population, and the goal was to end the GOP dependence on Reagan’s ER freebies, which are a major contributor to the cost of healthcare in the USA.
      Last, but not least, the “spending” issue. Like Clinton said, basic arithmetic is too big a challenge for many Republicans, but they should at least try to adding and subtracting. The Federal government deficits have gone down since President Obama was inaugurated. That was accomplished by reducing the budgets of most Federal government agencies and prudent spending. In contrast, deficit spending flourished in the Reagan and W eras, when concern over the debt was characterized as “IOUs…pieces of paper”. It is, nevertheless, good to see Republicans suddenly concerned about spending, although I suspect that for them that irresponsible practice has more to do with how the money is spent rather than fiscal indifference.

      • marriea

        Not necessarily how, but where. If it is spent helping big business or some billionaire, it is OK. If it is spent helping someone with a penny in his hand, it’s a handout. Go figure

    • marriea

      You are so sadly correct.

  • CarmanK

    The GOP rejected UNIVERSAL health care prior to the passage of MEDICARE. They successfully fought off the passage of health care reform over 40 years giving the free mkt time to develop their own product of affordable, accessible health care. The insurance industry chose to ignore the signs and gorged themselves on short term profits. Obama and dems got hlth care reform passed, but at a high cost to the nation. The Republicans launched their campaign of deception and the DEMS remained silent and so GOP/TPARTY got the upper hand and smeared health care reform successfully. Look at the 2010 elections which surrendered the HOUSE to GOP. Hopefully, Dems have learned some lessons and the AM ppl will be better off going forward.

    • elw

      Actually, because of public demand, the GOP gave up fighting over Medicare and actually helped design the original bill. The original bill was only for hospital coverage (Part A), it was the Republicans in Congress that designed and added in physician care outside the hospital (Part B). Ironically, they did not properly fund and it is Part B and that other two Republican addition to Medicare over the years(Parts C and D) that cost more than they bring in.

    • exdemo55

      It’s one thing to spike the football when you actually score a touchdown, but why is Obama celebrating in the end zone when he just got tackled for a safety?What on earth is this man boasting about? Boasting is obnoxious enough when the braggart in question has accomplished something, but how many people do you know who brag when they’ve hurt millions?Under the goal posts in the Rose Garden, Obama said: Obamacare “is doing what it’s supposed to do; it’s working. … The debate over repealing this law is over; the Affordable Care Act is here to stay. … I’ve got to admit, I don’t get it. Why are folks working so hard for people not to have health insurance? Why are they so mad about the idea of folks having health insurance?”This is outrageous, even for him.If Obamacare is doing what it’s supposed to do, then it was supposed to create chaos in the health care industry, increase our premiums, cause people to lose their doctors, reduce the quality of care and cost the government unconscionable sums of money.Is that what Obama means by “it’s working”? Is this what he envisioned that Obamacare would do?If not, then why is he all puffed up? Why aren’t Democrats sharing in his triumphant bliss? Why is he attacking those who are rightly criticizing this policy?Obama looked us in the eye and said 7.1 million people have signed up for Obamacare, which is apparently close to the projected number of enrollees necessary to fund this boondoggle. But for that number to work — even if you assume it is legitimate — it has to be a net number.What Obama didn’t tell us is that this figure, in the abstract, means nothing. By throwing out 7.1 million as if it means the administration has met its goal, he is deliberately and brazenly deceiving the American people, because he knows it has not come close. The fact that he would take no questions on this matter is proof that he has something to hide.It’s as if Obama and his advisers were sitting around the table — or the putting green — and he told them, “Hey, we’ve almost reached the magic number of sign-ups.” One of his advisers might have said, “Yes, but we’re miles away from our goal.” And Obama might have said: “Who cares? This is enough for a sound bite. This is enough for a press conference. This is enough to dupe the American people. Don’t question me. Schedule that press conference. I’m the president.”In order for Obamacare to work, it needed some 7 million net new enrollees, at least 38 percent of whom would be young and healthy enough to subsidize the others, according to liberal projections.But what did he get?Well, he allegedly got 7.1 million enrollees on paper, but let’s look at the myriad ways that number is reduced.National Journal reports that an estimated 15 to 20 percent of these enrollees haven’t paid their premiums, which means they won’t be covered. So right off the bat, you have to reduce the number to between 5.7 million and 6 million, which means the figures already won’t work.Instead of 38 percent of these enrollees being in the young and healthy category, Michael Tanner of the Cato Institute reports that less than 30 percent of enrollees are younger than 35.Also, RAND Corp. estimates that only about one-third of the new enrollees were previously uninsured, which means that two-thirds of the 5.7 million or 6 million cannot properly be counted in these figures. So we have fewer than 2 million net new enrollees. But we’re still not finished.In addition to this, RAND estimates that nearly a million more people lost their plan because of Obamacare and couldn’t afford to replace it because Obamacare mandates coverage of additional risks and causes premiums to increase.Does that mean we are actually down to about 1 million net new enrollees?Not to destroy your day further, but on top of all this, Obamacare is projected to cost the government — meaning taxpayers — $2 trillion over the next decade, which isn’t even being factored in here. And how many believe that number isn’t grossly underestimated? Also, Obamacare is going to cause cuts to Medicare Advantage, which will reduce benefits or increase premiums for people by an estimated $35 to $75 per month.As you can see, Obama is giving you only a fraction of the information you need to understand this picture and imparting the false impression that Obamacare is working now, and when premiums skyrocket next year, he can scapegoat the insurance companies and proceed to his beloved single-payer, full-blown statist scenario.Obama must be still counting on the fact that he can fool enough of the people enough of the time — Election Day every two years — to continue his sinister plan to fundamentally transform this nation.The polls are screaming that he’s finally run out of juice. Pray it is so.

      • charleo1

        It’s always amazing, the difference in the perceptions of two or more people watching the exact same event. That each may come away with their own descriptions. Personally, I’ve always wanted President Obama to a bit more braggadocios in order to better inform the more inattentive, and dim witted members of the public about his impressive list of accomplishments. Turning around a faltering economy, with no bipartisan help. Or saving two iconic American car manufactures, and having the courage to tackle the very thorny problem of the runaway costs of healthcare, that had been getting worse for millions of business owners, and working Americans alike, for decades. So that by the time President Obama took office, at the height of the great recession, the number of Americans without an insurance plan had risen to 45 million. While costs continued to rise, outpacing all other government expenditures, as our number one driver of public debt. In a system that all agreed had progressed beyond the point of no return, mathematically speaking. And would implode, bankrupting hospitals, and other parts of the provider network. Greatly impacting the economy, and of course, the vast majority of all consumers of healthcare. Medicare itself in Jan, ’09 was 5 years from
        insolvency. With our economy in free fall, losing 800,000
        private sector jobs per month. So, the implementation of
        any public program that involved taking on hundreds of
        well intrenched corporate interests. With a Congress mostly owned by those same interests, was as close to
        a legislative, miracle as we’re likely to see in our lifetimes. And it took extraordinary Presidential leadership. That is
        leadership, not understood to be testosterone fueled chest thumping, under a mission accomplished banner. In fact, Presidents since Theodore Roosevelt, had all voiced a
        need for a National Health Plan. So in his description of reaching this first milestone of this improbable, but vital reform of our degenerating healthcare, distribution, and delivery system, was as usual for this President, understated, and humble. What we have is a Right Wing without answers, without credibility, and who not once, in their 6 years of Congressional Control under President Clinton, nor their 6 years under Bush, seemed the least bit troubled by the 10s of millions being locked out of medical plans, by skyrocketing price increases. But now are shedding copious crocodile tears over a few million practically worthless insurance policies being struck from a marketplace they should have not been allowed to enter in the first place. Now, they’re terribly worried Americans are losing their insurance? What is obstruction by another name called? In this case, it’s hypocrisy.

      • SecludedCompound

        That summary seems like basically the exact opposite of everything that has gone on. I’m astonished at how much someone’s personal distastes can color their perception.

    • plc97477

      You can’t really say the dems remained silent because we do not own the media, (there is no such thing as a liberal media) and thus have no voice to give us access to the country.

  • HowardBrazee

    It’s not about the health insurance. It’s about having a Democratic black president. Simple.

    • elw

      Well they better get use to that and they better get used to idea that people want leaders who are qualified and understand what is needed and do not care what the wrapping paper of that person looks like.

      • 1EdMeadows83

        I predict, not in my lifetime, that America will elect a black, atheistic, lesbian as president!

        • elw

          I do not care as long as she knows what she is doing and favors people like me over the very rich. I would love to see a woman President before I die.

          • 1EdMeadows83

            Unless you are very, very old and in bad health, you will see either Elizabeth Warren or Hillary Clinton take the oath of office on January 20, 2017

          • 1EdMeadows83

            Or maybe Sarah Palin.;-(

          • elw

            I do not think that even Republicans would vote for her. You would have to wonder about a party that would pick someone who had to quit half way through her first term as government. It certainly would make it an easy Presidential campaign for the Democratic candidate. Could you even imagine a debate between Hillary Clinton or Elizabeth Warren and Sarah. Yikes that would be fun to watch. It would the late comedians material to use for a year.

          • progressiveandproud

            That debate would be painful to watch. As much as I dislike Sarah, I still wouldn’t want to watch her be exterminated on stage. Much as I wouldn’t want to watch a dog flattened by a snow plow.

          • elw

            If they choose her that is what will happen, I really doubt she will be chosen.

          • 1EdMeadows83

            Palin didn’t HAVE to quit. She chose to quit because she could make more money as a Republican clown.

          • elw

            Does it really make a difference if she had to quit or did it because she wanted to make more money as a clown. Either way, she showed that she is unreliable and not committed to the Responsibility of an elected office. Although, she did manage to stimulate a number of lawsuits and investigations by people who seemed to think her clown act was not so funny.

          • jmprint

            throw up

          • Billie

            From your lips to God’s ears.

          • 1EdMeadows83

            God ain’t got no ears ’cause there ain’t no God. 😉

          • progressiveandproud

            I’m hoping for Warren. Clinton is too tainted by the drummed up scandals of Bills presidency.

            The right is scared to death of Hillary (of course they are scared to death of any intelligent woman), and they are already bringing out the lie and hate machine by attacking Bills friendship with a fellow they claim is a pedophile. Next up: Bill’s a pedophile! Hillary needs to forget her presidency dream. It won’t happen.

          • 1EdMeadows83

            Well, pedophilia is about the only thing President Clinton hasn’t been accused of until you just did, probably because it isn’t true.

          • progressiveandproud

            I did not accuse Bill of pedophilia. I wrote that the right will accuse him of that.

            Personally, I would vote for him again if he could run.

          • 1EdMeadows83

            “The right is scared to death of Hillary (of course they are scared to death of any intelligent woman), and they are already bringing out the lie and hate machine by attacking Bills friendship with a fellow they claim is a pedophile. Next up: Bill’s a pedophile! Hillary needs to forget her presidency dream. It won’t happen.”
            I didn’t see any quotation marks or credits to another source, so, you said he is a pedophile. It doesn’t matter because a lie made by you is just as ignominious as one told by another.

        • Sand_Cat

          You planning on living for 1,000 years?

          • 1EdMeadows83

            If I can. I’ve made a good start!

          • Sand_Cat

            Well, I hope you make it, because that may be how long you have to wait for your dream to come true. But I wish you well.

          • 1EdMeadows83

            I didn’t say it was my dream. just a prediction. Any nincompoop can make a prediction, only Martin Luther King can dream.

          • Sand_Cat


  • elw

    “That hardly means Obamacare is a raging success. It’s much too early to know how it will affect health outcomes for the previously uninsured.”
    I think success is in how you look at things. In my opinion the ACA/Obamacare is a raging success. Against all odds, nearly 50 years after Medicare was enacted, after decades of tries and talk our President got a new health care act passed for people of all ages and incomes; people who were in dire need of healthcare access. In spite of a billion dollar media campaign and constant attacks from its opponents, telling people how bad Obamacare is and encouraging them not to sign up, over 10 million Americans found health care coverage and better access care through the ACA exchanges and Medicaid. The Radical, Conservative Right has completely lost this war. Period. That is what I call success.

    • latebloomingrandma

      It will be years until we know the success or failure of the ACA. At least in a year we will have some data. You can’t declare a failure at the beginning of an implementation process. Look at how long it took for people to acknowledge that smoking is bad for you, and that smokers are persona non grata in most indoor spaces. It takes Americans kicking and screaming to finally accept major changes. Climate change is the next big hurdle.

      • elw

        It will not fail. You are right it will take at least a year until we have enough data to even start adjusting and tweaking things to ensure long-term success. But those changes will be made and it will become as beloved as Medicare. You are also right that health behavior changes are always slow and hard to make – but they happen.

  • That’s exactly what they’re furious about. In the mind of the average Republican politician, people only have two purposes in life: Donating to Republicans, and voting for Republicans. And anyone who isn’t going to do either of those two things for them, the G.O.P. would rather they just hurry up and drop dead so they can’t vote against them.

    You see seven million people who might otherwise have died without healthcare. The Republicans see seven million people who will be voting against them in November.

    • Allan Richardson

      And their friends in the funeral lobby see seven million people who won’t be dying in the next few years, maybe not for another 50 years. That’s why the NRA has to keep busy pushing guns to maniacs, to keep the demand for funerals up.

      • marriea

        Can’t say I disagree with you there Allen. But you know what, Americans are afraid of the thought of dying. It’s gonna happen anyway, but we put off thinking about it, so our kids and relatives are left to ponder about it. I brought ( fully paid for) a cremation plan. Since I’m going to go back to being ashes anyway, I might as well do it quickly. As for the gun market. In WWII the guns and weapons makers made a ton of money. (It always comes back to money doesn’t it) Then we started fighting with anyone and everyone. Now we don’t have anyone else to fight with, so we are now turning on ourselves. Interesting?

    • exdemo55

      Put aside the numbers for a moment, and the daily argument.

      “Seven point one million people have signed up!”

      “But six million people lost their coverage and were forced onto the exchanges! That’s no triumph, it’s a manipulation. And how many of the 7.1 million have paid?”

      “We can’t say, but 7.1 million is a big number and redeems the program.”

      “Is it a real number?”

      “Your lack of trust betrays a dark and conspiratorial right-wing mindset.”

      As I say, put aside the argument, step back and view the thing at a distance. Support it or not, you cannot look at ObamaCare and call it anything but a huge, historic mess. It is also utterly unique in the annals of American lawmaking and government administration.

      Its biggest proponent in Congress, the Democratic speaker of the House, literally said—blithely, mindlessly, but in a way forthcomingly—that we have to pass the bill to find out what’s in it. It is a cliché to note this. But really, Nancy Pelosi’s statement was a historic admission that she was fighting hard for something she herself didn’t understand, but she had every confidence regulators and bureaucratic interpreters would tell her in time what she’d done. This is how we make laws now.

      Her comments alarmed congressional Republicans but inspired Democrats, who for the next three years would carry on like blithering idiots making believe they’d read the bill and understood its implications. They were later taken aback by complaints from their constituents. The White House, on the other hand, seems to have understood what the bill would do, and lied in a way so specific it showed they knew exactly what to spin and how. “If you like your health-care plan, you can keep your health-care plan, period.” “If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, period.” That of course was the president, misrepresenting the facts of his signature legislative effort. That was historic, too. If you liked your doctor, your plan, your network, your coverage, your deductible you could not keep it. Your existing policy had to pass muster with the administration, which would fight to the death to ensure that 60-year-old women have pediatric dental coverage.

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      At the White House on April 1, President Obama and Vice President Biden appear in the Rose Garden offering praise for the Affordable Care Act. Agence France-Presse/Getty Images

      The leaders of our government have not felt, throughout the process, that they had any responsibility to be honest and forthcoming about the major aspects of the program, from its exact nature to its exact cost. We are not being told the cost of anything—all those ads, all the consultants and computer work, even the cost of the essential program itself.

      What the bill declared it would do—insure tens of millions of uninsured Americans—it has not done. There are still tens of millions uninsured Americans. On the other hand, it has terrorized millions who did have insurance and lost it, or who still have insurance and may lose it.

      The program is unique in that it touches on an intimate and very human part of life, the health of one’s body, and yet normal people have been almost wholly excluded from the debate. This surely was not a bug but a feature. Given a program whose complexity is so utter and defeating that it defies any normal human attempt at comprehension, two things will happen. Those inclined to like the spirit of the thing will support it on the assumption the government knows what it’s doing. And the opposition will find it difficult to effectively oppose—or repeal the thing—because of the program’s bureaucratic density and complexity. It’s like wrestling a manic, many-armed squid in ink-darkened water.

      Social Security was simple. You’d pay into the system quite honestly and up front, and you’d receive from the system once you were of retirement age. If you supported or opposed the program you knew exactly what you were supporting or opposing. The hidden, secretive nature of ObamaCare is a major reason for the opposition it has engendered.

      The program is unique in that the bill that was signed four years ago, on March 23, 2010, is not the law, or rather program, that now exists. Parts of it have been changed or delayed 30 times. It is telling that the president rebuffed Congress when it asked to work with him on alterations, but had no qualms about doing them by executive fiat. The program today, which affects a sixth of the U.S. economy, is not what was passed by the U.S. Congress. On Wednesday Robert Gibbs, who helped elect the president in 2008 and served as his first press secretary, predicted more changes to come. He told a business group in Colorado that the employer mandate would likely be scrapped entirely. He added that the program needed an “additional layer” or “cheaper” coverage and admitted he wasn’t sure the individual mandate had been the right way to go.

      Finally, the program’s supporters have gone on quite a rhetorical journey, from “This is an excellent bill, and opponents hate the needy” to “People will love it once they have it” to “We may need some changes” to “I’ve co-sponsored a bill to make needed alternations” to “This will be seen by posterity as an advance in human freedom.”

      That was the president’s approach on Tuesday, when he announced the purported 7.1 million enrollees. “The debate over repealing this law is over. The Affordable Care Act is here to stay. . . . In the end, history is not kind to those who would deny Americans their basic economic security. Nobody remembers well those who stand in the way of America’s progress or our people. And that’s what the Affordable Care Act represents. As messy as it’s been sometimes, as contentious as it’s been sometimes, it is progress.”

      Someone said it lacked everything but a “Mission Accomplished” banner. It was political showbiz of a particular sort, asking whether the picture given of a thing will counter theexperience of the thing.

      There’s a brute test of a policy: If you knew then what you know now, would you do it? I will never forget a conversation in 2006 or thereabouts with a passionate and eloquent supporter of the decision to go into Iraq. We had been having this conversation for years, he a stalwart who would highlight every optimistic sign, every good glimmering. He argued always for the rightness of the administration’s decision. I would share my disquiet, my doubts, finally my skepticism. One night over dinner I asked him, in passing, “If we had it to do over again, should we have gone in? would you support it?”

      And he said, “Of course not!”

      Which told me everything.

      There are very, very few Democrats who would do ObamaCare over again. Some would do something different, but they wouldn’t do this. The cost of the blunder has been too high in terms of policy and politics.

      They, and the president, are trying to put a good face on it.

      Republicans of all people should not go for the happy face. They cannot run only on ObamaCare this year and later, because it’s not the only problem in America. But it’s a problem, a big one, and needs to be hard and shrewdly fought.

      • gmccpa

        The concept that 7 million sign ups merely replaced the 6 million cancellation argument… a RW media fallacy. And it will become more and more obvious every single day. Do you know why? Because the RW…cannot find one person who is now uninsured because of the ACA. NONE. They can claim many were cancelled. But it ends there. And yet….almost all of us know people. previously uninsured, that now HAVE coverage due to the ACA. Personally, I know several…and if you include 20 somethings…I know dozens. And really, I don’t even know that many people. And I would actually bet that if you are honest with yourself… your experience is the same. Ask around. You will see I am right.

        • 4sanity4all

          I would not be counted with the uninsured, because I had insurance. But my previous insurance had such a high deductible, and so many exclusions, it actually paid for NOTHING, and ALL of my doctor bills, medicine, and tests came out of my pocket, on top of my premium. I am now insured with a policy that covers so many things that my premium is getting me medical care. I used to put things off, knowing that the costs would be so high, but now my costs are manageable, and I feel very relieved that President Obama put up with so much baloney for my benefit, and the benefit of millions of grateful Americans. The critics are either uninformed or they are very rich and finally paying according to their means, and they resent being kicked off the gravy train.

          • gmccpa

            EXACTLY. Almost all the critics already had decent insurance. And all of a sudden they’re quite self righteous about others having access and a tax credit. Meanwhile, almost all of them have either Medicare, or a group plan with a tax deduction. As if they…and only they…have ‘earned’ the right to a tax break.

          • adler56

            It’s not baloney President Obama put up with, it’s racism by millions and millions of ignorant low class whites.

      • Joseph

        A reasonably accurate plagiarism from the flea-bag drunk Peggy Noonan. Well, done. Now we know who does your thinking for you.

        • exdemo55

          WASHINGTON – As the United States looks to “pivot” its strategic policy to Asia, the Obama administration’s response to Russian President Vladimir Putin’s annexation of Crimea has sent reverberations into East Asia, casting doubt on its commitment to prevent aggression from China or North Korea.

          Victor Cha, professor of government at Georgetown University in Washington, D.C., and a senior adviser at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, said Beijing and Pyongyang haven’t missed the U.S. “capitulation” by President Barack Obama to Putin’s assertiveness in Crimea.

          And there have been signs Putin may not stop there.

          Cha told Asia Times that Putin is a “threat to Asia,” even though, like the U.S., the Russian leader is showing his assertiveness in East Asia through developing increased trade and military ties.

          Last June, Putin, in a speech at the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum, announced a plan to boost Russia’s economic growth in the Asia-Pacific region rather than in Russia’s traditional markets in Europe.

          His speech at the time represented a new direction for Russia, which for decades had played down strategic and economic interests in the Asia-Pacific region.

          Putin envisions massive investments in infrastructure and upgrading the Trans-Siberian Railway that links his country to the Pacific.

          Putin also is looking to increase investments in energy.

          Russia’s new assertiveness in the Far East poses potential conflicts as China views the East and South China Seas as its domain, coupled with increased U.S. economic and military interests in the region.

          Nevertheless, Moscow has emphasized it wants cooperation with China.

          “China does not worry us,” Putin said. “China and Russia will cooperate on many questions.”

          “Russia shares the current understanding that the rise of China comes at the expense of the United States and the West,” according to Fiona Hill of the Washington-based Brookings Institution.

          The reality, she said, is that Asia, for Russia, will remain a sideshow in its foreign and security policy.

          “For all its posturing about turning Russia into a hub of intra-Asian trade and cooperation, Moscow’s strategic focus is still stuck on the West – its population is mostly in the West, its economic ties are mostly to the West, and its official military doctrine remains fixated on the United States and NATO,” she said.

          She added that the focus on the West will remain for the foreseeable future, since old patterns will be hard to break.

          Georgetown University’s Cha, however, said leaders in China and North Korea have seen that Moscow clearly has a greater commitment to Ukraine than the U.S. They may reason that if they act like Putin, U.S. reaction will be the same as it was toward Russia’s annexation of Crimea.

          “Crimea shows that power matters less than commitment,” Cha said. “And as powerful as the United States is, it is not as committed to Crimea as Russia. The danger of Putin’s action is the ‘demonstration effect’ – it sets a bad precedent for others to follow.”

          Cha said the bottom line is that Putin got what he wanted and was able to “pull off a fait accompli against Crimea based on the perception of a lack of U.S. resolve or commitment.”

          “What is to stop others from thinking the same way?” Cha asked. “Why shouldn’t (Chinese President) Xi Jinping think the same way regarding the claim of another air defense identification zone (ADIZ)? Or why shouldn’t (North Korean leader) Kim Jong-un feel that a fait accompli action in the West Sea would work to his advantage?”

          Obama recently had B-52s flown in what China regards as its ADIZ over the South China Sea, but civilian airlines were directed to inform Chinese authorities of their presence.

          As for North Korea, its leadership saw Obama’s reaction and immediately fired a number of short-range missiles and initiated artillery fire into South Korea.

          The concern is how to prevent others in Asia from acting like Putin.

          “The answer is to create a strategic environment that effectively deters China or North Korea from ever considering such actions,” Cha said.

          One approach Cha recommended is closer U.S.-Japan military cooperation, including the right of collective self-defense and revision of defense guidelines.

          Even with the military cooperation, leadership in Japan and South Korea have shown skepticism over U.S. security commitments, prompting them to consider more assertive military buildups, including the prospect of making their own longer-range missiles and nuclear warheads.

          For some time, military relationships between the U.S., Japan and South Korea have created uncertainty in Tokyo and Seoul.

          “If North Korea sees a rift among the three countries, then they are not creating the right strategic environment to prevent Putin-like actions in Asia.” Cha said.

          However, before that can happen, a long-simmering dispute between Tokyo and Seoul also would need mending, although Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe is attempting to do just that.

          Abe has complied with Seoul’s demand to apologize for Japan’s forcible World War II conscription of sex slaves of Koreans, known as comfort women.

          “Reconciling Japan-South Korean relations is good for both countries in terms of their own security to prepare for the next North Koran provocation,” Cha said. “In the longer term, it is important for setting the strategic environment that avoids a Crimea in Asia.”

          • Joseph

            Ah. thought so. WND does your thinking for you. Well, enjoy. I prefer sources taht have been demonstrated correct at least 10% of the time.

          • exdemo55

            A Russian lawmaker known for her outspoken support for traditional marriage and the unborn is among the officials listed in new U.S. sanctions against individuals for their alleged contribution to Russia’s unlawful grab of Ukrainian territory.

            Weeks ago, President Obama announced sanctions aimed at several individuals for their alleged roles in facilitating Russia’s actions. But Yelena Mizulina’s seems out of place on the list. Mizulina is chairwoman of the Russian Duma’s Committee on Family, Women and Children’s Affairs.

            She was also the lead sponsor of legislation banning Americans from adopting Russian orphans, fearing the children could suffer harm if adopted by homosexual partners.

            In the documents outlining the sanctions, the allegations against Mizulina simply cite “her status as a state duma deputy.”

            “Yelena Mizulina, as far as I know, has nothing to do with the controversy over the Crimea. She did sponsor a bill to make it easier for residents of the Crimea to have Russian citizenship. That was
            before the Crimea was incorporated into Russia. Other than that, (she had) absolutely nothing to do with the Crimea,” said Don Feder, communications director for the World Congress of Families, which promotes traditional values around the globe.

            “This is payback. This is payback for Russian restrictions on abortion. It’s payback for the child protection law. It’s payback for all the pro-family initiatives that the Russian people have undertaken in the last few years,” he said.

            Feder said this story is another alarming example of who is calling the shots for the Obama administration.

            “This administration is clearly controlled by the gay lobby. Whatever organized homosexuals want, the administration gives them. It was about a year or year-and-a-half ago that Obama announced that promoting gay rights abroad would be a major U.S. foreign policy initiative. You have to shake your head in wonder,” he said. “In fact, U.S. ambassadors have been ordered to march in gay pride parades all over the world, wherever they’re held.”

            It’s a major shift in emphasis for Obama, who only embraced gay marriage publicly two years ago. Feder said it was a pragmatic move by the administration and not the result of any deep soul-searching.

            “I think a lot of it has to do with funding. Remember that when Obama ran for president in 2008, he said while he was sympathetic to gay rights, he believed that marriage was between a man and a woman. Then at the beginning of 2012, at the beginning of his re-election campaign, suddenly he decided that he was in favor of gay marriage. What changed?” asked Feder.

            “Obviously nothing, it was expediency. He was told by certain gay donors if he didn’t begin supporting gay marriage, they would withhold their donations. On that basis, Obama decided to have this very convenient change of heart. I think that supporting homosexual marriage … has always been Obama’s position. I think he adopted the one man-one woman (position) in 2008 as a matter of expediency. So part of it is Obama’s natural philosophical inclination on social issues and part of it is expediency,” he said.

            According to Feder, the impact of the sanctions will be minimal. He said they will restrict Mizulina’s travel but will not impact her legislative work at all. In addition, he said any intended message sent through these sanctions will fall on deaf ears with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

            “I think Putin feels the sanctions are a joke. It gives [Obama] an opportunity to say to the people who are pressuring him to do more, ‘Look, I have this list of people that I’ve applied sanctions to,’” Feder said.

            “It’s sort of like his famous red line. He’ll say, ‘I’ve drawn a red line and if Syria crosses the red line there are going to be serious consequences.’ So Syria crosses the red line and the serious
            consequences are Obama drawing another red line. I don’t think Putin takes any of it seriously. In fact, I don’t think he takes our president seriously,” he said.

            But what about Mizulina’s impact on Americans’ efforts to adopt Russian orphans? Many Americans on all sides of the gay marriage and gay adoption debates were frustrated by Russia putting a halt to them, even for traditionally married couples. Feder wholeheartedly endorses Mizulina’s actions.

            “I think her position is absolutely right. The Russians are very traditional people. They have a strong religious orientation. They haven’t gotten caught up in the whole politically correct thing that has captured so many people in this country, that homosexuality is essentially the same as heterosexuality, that it’s genetically determined and what’s called discrimination against gays is the same as discrimination against a racial minority,” Feder said.

            “The Russian people don’t feel that way. They don’t want to see Russian children placed with homosexuals,” he said. “Frankly, I don’t blame them.”

          • Angela Walker

            I wonder what goal exdem (talk about your bs user names 😀 ) hopes to accomplish here. No one is going to take his silly ass seriously. 😀

          • Ginger Martinez

            What does that have to do with the ACA?
            That is a very poor attempt at redirection.

          • dpaano

            What the hell does that have to do with the subject at hand? We’re not discussing Putin; we’re discussing health care. Get with the program or go back to sleep!

      • Angela Walker

        Exdem, your six million figure is imaginary. And your screed makes you look like either a failed, low traffic blogger or simply a mindless malcontent.

        The only question remaining is: are you a paid or an unpaid GOP, corporate shill. If the former, despicable, if the latter, pathetic.

      • Sand_Cat

        Put aside the numbers for a moment and remember that you are a right-wing lunatic who occasionally appears here to defend the indefensible, such as praising Scott Walker, who – like most other lunatics – will write absolutely anything to smear the black Democrat who “stole” two elections, the second despite all the efforts of your friends to do the same.

        Yes step back, and keep stepping back: there must be a precipice somewhere behind you, even if it’s only the realization of the truth about yourself.

      • dpaano

        Unfortunately, the “tens of millions” of people you state are uninsured come from those states that have Republican Governors who chose not to implement the ACA in their states. Don’t blame that on the ACA……put the blame where it really belongs….on Governors who seemingly don’t care what happens to their own constituents!

        • exdemo55

          Why did they vote for them?

          • dpaano

            Because those particular states are gerrymandered Republican and also because those states are generally uninformed and lied to so much by the GOP that they continually vote for people and things that are bad for them.

          • exdemo55

            How do you gerrymander a whole state to elect a governor? If the GOP can do that, why don’t they do it in every state?

          • Sand_Cat

            As I said, why don’t you explain to us why people vote for parties who care nothing for them aside from their votes, and who implement policies that will hurt them? Since you seem to be one of them – or are you a millionaire? – you seem best qualified to answer your own question.

          • exdemo55

            Some people vote for freedom and the desire to take care of themselves without the government stealing money fron their hard work

          • Sand_Cat

            I’m sure all those poor and ignorant people who provide the mass of
            the votes for the GOP and make up a large part of its “base” don’t
            really want the “liberty” of scum like you and the 1% to shaft them, or to
            “liberate” them from medical care, food, the education to help them see the obscenity of the GOP, and just about anything else you can steal from them. Your
            whole position is so patently absurd and delusional that it would be laughable if it weren’t for all the
            people who suffer as a result of it.
            And while we’re appointing ourselves to declare what the government shouldn’t “steal” from us to finance, I don’t like the government “stealing” from me to pay for the NSA, Republican wars and lies, Guantanamo, all the other “black” prisons and illegal and immoral installations of the CIA, DIA, and any other “intelligence” agencies without name. I don’t want to fund terrorism in countries where the government has the incredible arrogance to put their peoples’ interests above what people like YOU want them to do. I don’t want to pay for militarizing the police across the country, susidizing Halliburton, Exxon Mobile, and other corporations. I don’t think I should have to pay for the salaries of the five GOP scumbags who sit on the Supreme Court daily defecating on their oaths of office and the Constitution, or for the like-minded creeps who sit in the House and Senate undermining the jobs and financial security of 95% of the country to try to damage the black man in the White House after promising “jobs, jobs, jobs.” would be their priority. In fact, I’d bet I don’t think it’s right to pay for about 75% of the things you jackasses support. So don’t come here with your moronic blather about “liberty” and “freedom.” You’re just a bunch of selfish and nasty SOBs who think you have the “right” to anything you can take by any means and call it “earning,” no matter who you hurt by getting it.

          • exdemo55

            You poor pathetic soul. You have no clue or respect for what it took to get and what it takes to keep the freedom you now enjoy.

          • Sand_Cat

            So now you “pity” me. Gee thanks. Somehow, I doubt you are capable of compassion except as a rhetorical device.

          • exdemo55

            David H. Koch earned bachelor’s and master’s degrees in chemical engineering
            from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. He joined Koch Industries, Inc.
            in 1970 and today serves as an executive vice president and board member. As
            chairman and president of Koch Membrane Systems, Inc., his passion for water technology
            has led to clean water innovations that have been exhibited at the International Desalination
            Association World Congress. Koch Membrane Systems is part of Koch Chemical
            Technology Group, LLC, a subsidiary of Koch Industries, Inc.

            A long-time philanthropist, Mr. Koch has given generously to a variety of
            organizations and programs. In his lifetime, he and the David H. Koch Charitable
            Foundation have pledged or contributed more than $1 billion to cancer research,
            medical centers, educational institutions, arts and cultural institutions, and
            to assist public policy organizations.

            Medical & Cancer Research

            A prostate cancer survivor, Mr. Koch has donated $100 million as prime
            contributor for the David
            H. Koch Institute for Integrative Cancer Research at MIT. Other support for
            medical and cancer research includes:

            $100 million to NewYork-Presbyterian Hospital to help build the David H.
            Koch Center, a new ambulatory care center

            $20 million to Johns Hopkins
            University for the David H. Koch Cancer Research Center

            $30 million to the Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in New York City

            $25 million to the M.D.
            Anderson Cancer Center in Houston for the David H. Koch Center for Applied
            Research of Genitourinary Cancers

            $15 million to New York-Presbyterian
            Hospital Weill Cornell Medical Center

            $25 million to The Hospital for
            Special Surgery in New York City

            $10 million to Jaffe Food Allergy Institute at the Mount Sinai Medical Center
            to create the David H. and Julia Koch Research Program in Food Allergy

            In 2011, Mr. Koch received the Humanitarian of the Year award from the American Apparel and Footwear Association for his long-standing support of organizations working to find a cure for prostate cancer. The awards gala raised more than $1.1 million for the Prostate Cancer
            Foundation. In 2007, he was honored with the Double Helix Medal for Corporate
            Leadership from Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory for supporting research that,
            “improves the health of people everywhere.”

            Mr. Koch was honored by the Smithsonian Institution in 2012 for his generous support, and presented with a piece of Smithsonite by G. Wayne Clough (left), secretary of the
            Smithsonian Institution.

            Education & Science

            Mr. Koch supports science-related projects including funding the long-running
            PBS documentary series, “Nova,” and a science and technology center at Deerfield
            Academy in Massachusetts.

            A $35 million pledge to the Smithsonian’s National Museum of Natural History will renovate
            the dinosaur hall, which will be named after him. Once renovated, the hall will
            showcase the museum’s unrivaled collection of 46 million fossils and present the
            most up-to-date scientific research. His $15 million gift to the museum created
            the David H. Koch
            Hall of Human Origins that opened in 2010. The 15,000-square-foot exhibit
            helps answer the question, “What does it mean to be human?“

            Other education and science-related support includes:

            The Koch Biology Building and the David H. Koch School of Chemical
            Engineering Practice at MIT

            A $20 million gift to the American Museum of Natural History, establishing the David H.
            Koch Dinosaur Wing

            The Bill of Rights
            Institute, which educates students and teachers about our nation’s Founding
            principles, including national sponsor of the 2009-2010 high school essay
            contest, “Being an American“

            Arts & Culture

            In 2013, the Metropolitan Museum of Art formally broke ground for the new David H.
            Koch Plaza. His $65 million gift will give the 140-year-old museum a
            beautiful outdoor setting with new fountains, landscaping and improved access,
            all designed with sustainability in mind.

            Gifts from the David H. Koch Charitable Foundation have benefited the American Ballet
            Theater. In 2008, his foundation gave $100 million for the preservation and
            renovation of the State Theater of New York at Lincoln Center. Now known
            as the David H. Koch Theater, it is
            home to the New York City
            Ballet and New York City

            Public Policy

            A passionate believer in free societies, Mr. Koch has funded research and
            education programs that analyze how freedom creates prosperity and advances
            social progress. He serves on the boards of the Cato Institute, Reason Foundation and Americans for Prosperity

          • Sand_Cat

            Hey, as one of them, why don’t you explain it?

      • adler56

        When it takes you that long with so many c&p’s you know you’re lying and twisting the truth.

      • marriea

        From where did you get your #?

        • Sand_Cat

          I sure wish he’d “get off” this site.

  • charles king

    Why? can not White America accept Obama Care. All the other Americans accept Obama Care. What? the hell is wrong with another American Not wanting their fellow American to have something that works for All of the American People. Who? are these scum-bags that wants to deny the American People their Rights. Democracy is still alive in America and the Peoples’ VOTE is still Supreme therefore Vote those (greedy Capitalistic Pigs, Plutocracts, Republicans and Democracts DoNothingiers OUT OUT OUT OUT of Office. Thank You are the magic words with me. I Love Ya All. Mr. C. E. KING

    • 4sanity4all

      Hold on there, Charles. I am white, and I LOVE my ACA plan, and I LOVE President Obama. My entire family voted for him both times. Please don’t lump me in with the ignorant, racist whites who hate the President because of the color of his skin. I judged him on the content of his character, and I admire and respect him.

      • plc97477

        I too am fairly pale and voted for Obama twice. I also admire and respect him and wish we could vote for him again just to get the repugs goat.

  • Bambie Tibon

    There are many Americans who welcome ObamaCare with open arms and warm hugs but there are also a lot who do not want ObamaCare and what it stands for. If you want answers to your thousands questions about ObamaCare, watch this video in

    • Sand_Cat

      Yes, let’s see how many people you can convince to shoot themselves in the foot by confusing them enough to have them pull out of ACA participation.
      You and your friends are clearly among the most despicable excuses for human beings and Americans in the world today.

  • Bambie Tibon

    One should arm with the right information about ObamaCare to avoid confusion and worry. To help you understand ObamaCare watch this video in

    • Angela Walker

      Sorry, Bambie, but no rational person is going to take a link to a site name FreedomCare seriously. Get with the program, pookie. Any group that puts patriot or freedom in its name automatically looks like a Tea Party gang. And only the dimmest of the dim buy that crap. 😀

  • paulyz

    Obamacare has absolutely NOTHING to do about the fact that Obama is bi-racial. Most Americans did NOT want Hillarycare either. Americans do NOT want socialized medicine that had proved disastrous in all the Countries where it is practiced. The U.S. has always been the leader in health care, and this is more about Federal Government control of our health care.

    • Joseph

      Before running off into the sunset about “socialized medicine” you really should have a better understanding of the meaning of socialism. By any standard definition onanyuseful dicitionary or encyclopedia the ACA or as I’m delighted you call it, Obama-care, is not socialized medicine in any way. Once you enter the market place and select a policy form a private company that meets certain minimum standards you are now operation in the market place and daling with a private company. the way you talk, if I stop and ask a policeman the ay to the concert hall the whole concert is socialized.

      • midway54

        Well, gee whiz….that’s what it’s called at Fox “News.”

    • midway54

      “…that had proved disastrous in all the Countries where it is practiced.”

      First, the plan is not a construct under socialism properly understood. Second, your blather about the disasters means that every advanced nation with universal health care coverage (except the U.S.) socialistic or not is suffering them is utter nonsense. You should spend less time with the Cartoon Channel and Fox “News” which is almost the same, and research the topic internationally, beginning with the Scandinavian Countries (whose citizens by the way are not “yearning to be free” and knocking down the doors to enter the this context).

    • Angela Walker

      The polls say otherwise, pauly, and racism is just a handy tool for the GOP to use that attracts its dim base to the voting booths. Time to turn off Fox and read a book or two, pumpkin.

    • Lisztman

      Sorry, paulyz. The Federal Government is not controlling health care. The insurance companies are still in charge. However, they’ve been given rules that say.s they need to provide service to all Americans. To make the entire Nation one large insurance pool — not just the healthy percentage that maximizes the insurance industry profits.

    • SecludedCompound

      Huh, except that they support all of the components of ACA by wide margins when asked about them.

    • 1EdMeadows83

      You don’t read or watch television very much do you? Ask a Canadian what he thinks of socialized medicine.
      This is the World Health Organization ranking of health care in developed countries
      1 France
      2 Italy
      3 San Marino
      4 Andorra
      5 Malta
      6 Singapore
      7 Spain
      8 Oman
      9 Austria
      10 Japan
      11 Norway
      12 Portugal
      13 Monaco
      14 Greece
      15 Iceland
      16 Luxembourg
      17 Netherlands
      18 United Kingdom
      19 Ireland
      20 Switzerland
      21 Belgium
      22 Colombia
      23 Sweden
      24 Cyprus
      25 Germany
      26 Saudi Arabia
      27 United Arab Emirates
      28 Israel
      29 Morocco
      30 Canada
      31 Finland
      32 Australia
      33 Chile
      34 Denmark
      35 Dominica
      36 Costa Rica
      37 United States of America

  • Bambi

    Singlemindedness rules, causing them to collectively seek out and use any irrational method they can find to discredit Obamacare, without empirical supporting data to back up their statements. Their Faulty logic: “Ducks migrate south for the winter; therefore, all birds migrate south for the winter.”

  • Russell Davis

    The core of the argument for Obamacare, or the ACA is that we had millions of people showing up in Emergency Rooms needing services for accidents, illness that required thousands, if not millions of dollars of care. This with no money and no insurance. We have literally had hospitals close their doors because money going out far exceded money coming in. Republicans, after years of whining, still haven’t come up with a solution to that problem if we get rid of Obamacare.

    • plc97477

      I think Alan Greyson hit the nail on it’s head with the repug answer to healthcare.

  • Sand_Cat

    I hope that those who run this site realize soon that I wouldn’t take a Disney cruise if they put a gun to my head, and I suspect there are many others like me. The reason? Every time I move the mouse pointer out of the way to type, it somehow ends up on the ad at the bottom of this and every page, immediately starting the obnoxious music, and – if one is not quick and careful enough to move it quickly – the damned ad appears in the middle of the screen, interrupting the comment and infuriating me.

    • charleo1

      What? You’d pass up the unique opportunity, to spend a couple of
      weeks in the middle of the Caribbean Sea, aboard a stricken ocean liner, without working toilets, or air conditioning, with a raging case of food poisoning? While being preyed upon by the staff of felons
      and convicted rapists, that pose as waiters, bus boys, cooks, and ship security personal? I can’t believe you’d pass on an ocean cruise!

      • dpaano

        Charlie: I’ve been on several cruises, and I’ve NEVER had a problem on any of them. Just because there have been problems on a couple of the cruise lines doesn’t mean that this is an everyday occurrence. Shit happens, you know? Fortunately, it doesn’t happen often on cruise lines. I prefer cruising to ANYTHING else out there when it comes to a vacation! People who don’t try cruising don’t know what they’re missing!

        • charleo1

          Okay, duly noted. My wife’s sister, and her
          husband go on them all the time, and they
          love them! Actually, I was trying to razz Sand
          Cat, a little. Glad to know your experiences
          have been positive as well.

          • Sand_Cat

            Not that I mind the razzing, but I believe you’d fin d that the cruise industry is one of the most polluting around. If I would ever consider going on one, it wouldn’t with with those who pollute these pages.

      • Sand_Cat

        Shhhh…don’t undermine my argument. Do you like the damned thing at the bottom of the page?

  • CEMQ

    It is not that hard to fathom.

    The problem for the opposition is their racism. It is the fact that it is a program presented, sponsored and passed by the US Congress by the first non Anglo (non Latino white) President.

    It is the fear by these cowardly racists that they might loose the unfair advantages that the Anglo population gain from denying opportunity, access to better health care, education, by having to compete on an equal footing.

    It is these fears that the GOP/Tea use to divide all Americans by presenting all the “minority” groups as a threat to the Anglo population, and guaranteeing their vote.

  • Daniel Jones

    Unless the poor are miserable, the rich don’t feel rich.

  • dpaano

    No, Republicans aren’t mad because people finally have healthcare coverage; they’re mad because they’ve been fed a bucket load of BS and made to believe every word that the GOP has told them, which is full of lies. If they REALLY took the time to read more about ACA, they would find out that their Governors, in most cases, are the ones who are screwing them, not President Obama and his healthcare policy. Unfortunately, they have fallen for the lies and garbage coming from their own representatives, who really don’t care what happens to them at all. Too bad they can’t see that for themselves. If they ever took the time to find out what lies they’ve been told, they would be mad at the GOP Tea Party idiots. Oh well…..


    The president could issue a proclamation honoring baseball, motherhood, and apple pie, and the Republicans and Faux Noise would scream bloody murder and demand an investigation. The biggest mistake the president made was in ever trying to actually work with these people.

    • 1EdMeadows83

      I wish President Obama would make a major speech condemning abortion, minimum wage increase ad anti-immigration. Those things would zip through Congress like Ex Lax.

  • adler56

    Racists and racist behavior have always been hard to understand- racists are usually low self esteem people looking for someone lower to pick on- this is no different except many of the racists are high school dropouts and President Obama gradated from Harvard- how dumb is that?

  • marriea

    Was looking at 60 Mins this last weekend. The officials of the state of West Virginia opted out of the AHCP even as many of it’s residence were in need of such healthcare. It is a political mystery as to why such a thing happens. Do I believe the plan is perfect? Far from it. I don’t expect to see the full benefits in play for at least another 5 years or better. But even so, it’s better than nothing. It’s just boggles the mind that these POLS would rather see their constituents die or go without just because they don’t like Obama and would rather spend time harping about what he hadn’t done rather than come to some sort of compromise. Just think 6 years and counting of doing nothing. REALLY?

  • kevin robinson

    do y’all want to know the real reason the gop hates ‘Obamacare’? ok i’ll tell you. it’s because racist america, who cannot fathom having Obama in the whitehouse, looks forward to the day when he’s out of office & therefore out of their lives & minds. ‘Obamacare’ will not allow them to purge themselves of the president. to racist america, long after Obama is out of office, ‘Obamacare’ will appear to them as if President Obama is still there, looming over them. & that absolutely drives them crazy.

  • kfreed

    Tax Documents Reveal: “Hobby Lobby’s secret agenda: How it’s quietly funding a vast right-wing movement – Exclusive: How entities related to the company are quietly pumping tens of millions into a mélange of fringe causes”

    “How the Koch Brothers Are Funding the Anti-Choice Agenda”

    Corporate “religious freedom”? Let’s examine what else the Tea Party considers anti-Christian: taxation, corporate regulation, the minimum wage, unions, environmetnal policy, public education… healthcare (obviously)… “entitlements”:

    Does any of this sound familiar? it should. It’s the Koch-sponsored ALEC agenda – model legislation for which has already been written by corporations – view it here:

    How, exactly did ALEC come to be? Meet ALEC founder Paul “We don’t want everybody to vote” Weyrich:

    “Paul Michael Weyrich (October 7, 1942 – December 18, 2008)[1][2][3][4] was an American religious conservative political activist and commentator, most notable as a figurehead of the New Right. He co-founded the conservative think tanks, the Heritage Foundation,[5] the Free Congress Foundation, and the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC). He coined the term “moral majority”, the name of the political action group Moral Majority that he co-founded in 1979 with Jerry Falwell. He switched from the Roman Rite of the Roman Catholic Church to that of the Melkite Greek Catholic Church and was ordained protodeacon.”

    Ever heard of the notion of “Biblical Capitalism” (ask Paul Ryan):

    ‘Libertarian’ Ludwig von Mises Institute scholar – his website: “Biblical Capitalsm” – “The Bible mandates free market capitalism.”

    “MEMO: Health Insurance, Banking, Oil Industries Met With Koch, Chamber, Glenn Beck To Plot 2010 Election” – plus two of the Supreme Court Justices (Thomas and Scalia):

    And the “Tea Party” landslide of 2010 commenced.

    Any questions?

  • Richard Piamai

    It would appear that there are real genuine idiots that still exist in this country. Who in their right mind does not want affordable health care. I wonder if these people are paid to stage this type of protest. Why else would anyone do this. Except for money.