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Tuesday, October 25, 2016

NEW YORK — The Republican Party faces a long-term challenge in presidential elections because it is defining itself as a gloomy enclave, a collection of pessimists who fear what our country is becoming and where it is going.

The party’s hope deficit helps explain why there’s a boomlet for Jeb Bush, a man who dares to use the word “love” in a paragraph about illegal immigrants.

The flurry doesn’t mean that the former Florida governor is even running for president, let alone that he can win. But Bush is being taken seriously because his approach to politics is so different from what’s on offer from doomsayers who worry that immigrants will undermine the meaning of being American and that the champions of permissiveness will hack away at our moral core.

No wonder Bush’s statement that immigrants entering the country illegally were engaged in “an act of love” was greeted with such disdain by Donald Trump and other Republicans gathered at last weekend’s Freedom Summit in New Hampshire.

Let’s stipulate that people oppose immigration reform for a variety of reasons. Some see any form of amnesty as a reward for breaking the law. Others believe the country would be better off if the flow of future immigrants tilted more toward the affluent and skilled. Still others worry that immigration pushes wages down.

But it’s not just the immigration issue as such that separates Bush from so many in his party. It’s the broader sense of optimism he conveys when he describes an increasingly diverse nation as an asset. He even, on occasion, speaks of active government as a constructive force in American life. And while he is critical of President Obama — he’s a conservative Republican, after all — he does not suggest, as so many in his party do, that because of the 44th president, the United States is on a path to decline and ruin.

Bush is occupying this space because New Jersey governor Chris Christie has lost it for now. His administration’s role in causing traffic Armageddon on the George Washington Bridge last fall and the rapidly multiplying investigations this episode has called forth created Bush’s opportunity.

At least before his immigration comments, Bush seemed to have more appeal than Christie to the party’s right. A Washington Post/ABC News poll last month asked Americans if they would “definitely” vote for, “consider” voting for, or reject various candidates. Among Republicans and independents leaning Republican, Bush drew acceptance across the board from moderate, somewhat conservative and very conservative Republicans. Christie appealed more to moderates. But Christie may be better positioned for a general election contest than Bush in one respect: Christie demonstrates higher levels of minimum consideration among Hispanics and African-Americans.

  • U-Dope-ia

    E. J. Dionne bashed Bush for the past 14 years. All of a sudden he is Karl Rove’s BFF.

    So Bush’s brother isn’t responsible for bailing out the banks and the auto industry now. He didn’t spend money like a drunken sailor, LOL

    No more corrupt crony capitalism.

    It’s the corruption, stupid!

    • disqus_ivSI3ByGmh

      What Dionne was offering was an evaluation of Jeb Bush compared to the Seven Dwarves (Paul, Huckabee, Rubio, Cruz, Perry, Santorum and Walker), and how he has more across the board appeal. He was not an apology for his brother’s administration, nor did he try to compare him to that other (so far) non-candidate, Paul Ryan.
      The biggest problem the Republican party had in 2008 was a Vice-President with no Presidential ambition, and a party rank and file that was afraid to show Presidential ambition for fear of upsetting said Veep. Any Republican who wanted to run for President knew he would have to run against Dubya’s policies, and Mr. Cheney felt that was tantamount to treason. Therefore, the party chose the “safe” 2nd place finisher from 2008. Had he chosen a more legitimate running mate, we would be reading about his final two year in office, and would be reading about Senator Barak Obama’s latest speech.
      This is similar to what the Democrats face this year. Only difference is we have a Vice President who claims to have Presidential ambitions, but nobody in the party (other than his wife and son) take his ambitions seriously. So we have the wife of a former President as the ostensible front-runner, with no serious challenge currently on the horizon. It would be interesting to see what would happen should Elizabeth Warren decide she wants to run!

      • U-Dope-ia

        Cuomo is running. Take it to the bank.

      • Mark Forsyth

        Much too soon for Warren and she has said so herself.That does not detract from the excellent work she has done thus far.Perhaps for a positive change of pace and someone outside the status quo, Independent Senator Bernie Sanders would be a good candidate.He is majorly on board with progressive policies that most non-republicans support and is currently a champion for redressing the Supreme Court debacles of C.U. and McCutcheon as well as being a strident defender of all social programs,labor unions,and public education.
        Clinton continues to dance around the issue of her potential candidacy and she has about as much baggage as she would ever need to overcome.Although she could be counted on to have a strong foreign policy,many people feel that she still is much too connected to the corporate world and is not the agent of change we need given the seriousness of current circumstances effecting our economic health and the well being of the American middle class.

        • Ed Portela

          Markey: “Much too soon for Warren”, you say?!!
          NO ONE will EVER be “too soon” after what Barack Obama did. NO ONE previous presidential candidate was as unprepared for the presidency as Barack, …. and yet you libtards got him elected.
          Repeat: after THAT, NO ONE will ever be too soon !!

          • Independent1

            “unprepared for the presidency”!! Really!! Only with respect to direct involvement withingovernment – but few presidents have ever had the hands-on experience of spending their lives trying to really help people that Barak Obama has had; AND IT SHOWS!!

            I’m old enough to remember hearing FDR give his fire-side chats, and no president in office since I’ve been alive has ever had the constant desire to do everything he can to actually help the American people as Barak Obama has, other than possibly FDR himself. Similarly, no president since FDR has accomplished as much for the good of the people as has Barak Obama; and especially in such short a time and with such unprecidented opposition from the opposing political party.

            Let me see you try to come up with another president in office since FDR that has accomplished even a fraction of what I’m about to list for you compliments of Paul Bass:

            1. Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommendations for ways to cut

            2. Ordered a review of all federal operations to identify and cut wasteful spending and practices

            3. Instituted enforcement of equal pay for women

            4. Withdrew of US troops from Iraq as promised potentially saving the lives of hundreds of America soldiers

            5. Families of fallen soldiers have expenses covered to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB

            6 Ended media blackout on war casualties; reporting full information

            7. Ended media blackout on covering the return of fallen soldiers to Dover AFB; the media is now permitted to do so pending adherence to respectful rules and approval of fallen soldier’s family

            8. The White House and federal government are respecting the Freedom of Information Act

            9. Instructed all federal agencies to promote openness and transparency as much as possible

            10. Established limits on lobbyist’s access to the White House

            11. Limits on White House aides working for lobbyists after their tenure in the administration

            12. Ended the previous stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan longer than their enlistment date

            13. Phasing out the expensive F-22 war plane and other outdated weapons systems, which weren’t even used or needed in Iraq/Afghanistan

            14. Removed restrictions on embryonic stem-cell research

            15. Federal support for stem-cell and new biomedical research

            16.Provided new federal funding for science and research labs

            17. States are permitted to enact federal fuel efficiency standards above federal standards

            18. Increased infrastructure spending (roads, bridges, power plants) after years of neglect

            19. Provided funding for high-speed, broadband Internet access to K-12 schools

            20. Provided new funds for school construction

            21 Has been working to phase out Guantanamo Bay with his efforts being blocked by the GOP

            22. Follwed through on Auto industry rescue plan despite strong opposition from the GOP – saving the auto industry such that today it’s making profits not seen since the 1990s

            23. Followed through with a housing rescue plan

            24. Fought for and oversaw the implementation of a 789 billion economic stimulus plan which to gether with the auto bailout kept America from falling into the GOP’s 2nd created world-wide depression

            25. His administration established guidelines that allows the public to met with federal housing insurers to refinance (the new plan can be completed in one day) a mortgage if they are having trouble paying

            26. Implemented a war on fraud in the finance and healthcare sectors which has brought more crooks to justice and recovered more fraud monies than any previous president

            27. The secret detention facilities in Eastern Europe and elsewhere are being closed

            28. Ended the previous policy; the US now has a no torture policy and is in compliance with theGeneva Convention standards

            29. Better body armor is now being provided to our troops

            30. The missile defense program is being cut by $1.4 billion in 2010

            31. Restarted the nuclear nonproliferation talks and building back up the nuclear inspection infrastructure/protocols

            32. Reengaged in the treaties/agreements to protect the Antarctic

            33. Reengaged in the agreements/talks on global warming and greenhouse gas emissions and has
            set more stringent car emissions guidelines for cars produced within the U.S.
            34. Has visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any previous president re-establishing warm relations with numerous countries that Bush Jr. had alienated
            35. Was successful in gaining the release of US captain held by Somali pirates; authorized theSEALS to do their job

            36. US Navy increasing patrols off Somali coast

            37. Established attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles

            38. Established a cash for clunkers program which offered vouchers to trade

            39. Announced plans to purchase fuel efficient American-made fleet for the federal government

            40. Expanded the SCHIP program to cover health care for 4 million more children

            41. Signed national service legislation; expanded national youth service program

            42. Instituted a new policy on Cuba, allowing Cuban families to return home to visit loved ones

            43. Ended the previous policy of not regulating and labeling carbon dioxide emissions

            44. Expanding America’s vaccination programs

            45. Immediate and efficient response to the floods in North Dakota and other natural disasters

            46. Closed offshore tax safe havens

            47. Negotiated deal with Swiss banks to permit US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals

            48. Ended the previous policy of offering tax benefits to corporations who outsource American jobs; the new policy is to promote in-sourcing to bring jobs back

            49.. Ended the previous practice of protecting credit card companies; in place of it are new consumer protections from credit card industry’s predatory practices

            50. Energy producing plants are required to produce 15% of their energy from renewable sources

            51. Pushed for legislation to lower drug costs for seniors as part of Obamacare

            52. Ended the previous practice of forbidding Medicare from negotiating with drug manufacturers for cheaper drugs; the federal government is now realizing hundreds of millions in savings

            53. Has Increased the pay and benefits for military personnel

            54. Has worked to Improve housing for military personnel

            55. Initiating a new policy to promote federal hiring of military spouses

            56. Improved conditions at Walter Reed Military Hospital and other military hospitals

            57 Used his presidential authority to cut the banks out of the student loan process which has made sudent loans more affordable to HS graduates

            58. Increasing opportunities in AmeriCorps program

            59. Sent envoys to Middle East and other parts of the world that had been neglected for years; reengaging in multilateral and bilateral talks and

            60. Established a new cyber security office

            61. Beginning the process of reforming and restructuring the military 20 years after the Cold War to a more modern fighting force; this includes new procurement policies, increasing size of military, new technology and cyber units and
            operations, etc.

            62. Ended previous policy of awarding no-bid defense contracts

            63. Ordered a review of hurricane and natural disaster preparedness

            64. Established a National Performance Officer charged with saving the federal government money and making federal operations more efficient

            65. Students struggling to make college loan payments can have their loans refinanced

            66. Improving benefits for veterans

            67. Many more press conferences and town halls and much more media access than previous administration

            68. Instituted a new focus on mortgage fraud

            69. The FDA is now regulating tobacco

            70. Ended previous policy of cutting the FDA and circumventing FDA rules

            71. Ended previous practice of having White House aides rewrite scientific and environmental rules, regulations, and reports

            72. Authorized discussions with North Korea and private mission by Pres. Bill Clinton to secure the release of two Americans held in prisons

            73. Authorized discussions with Myanmar and mission by Sen. Jim Web to secure the release of an American held captive

            74. Making more loans available to small businesses

            75. Established independent commission to make recommendations on slowing the costs of Medicare

            76. Appointment of first Latina to the Supreme Court

            77. Authorized construction/opening of additional
            health centers to care for veterans

            78. Limited salaries of senior White House aides; cut to $100,000

            79. Renewed loan guarantees for Israel

            80. Changed the failing/status quo military command in Afghanistan

            81. Has worked to wind down the Afghan war with total pullout projected for this year.

            82. New Afghan War policy that limits aerial bombing and prioritizes aid,development of infrastructure, diplomacy, and good government practices by Afghans

            83. Announced the long-term development of a national energy grid with
            renewable sources and cleaner, efficient energy production

            84. Returned money authorized for refurbishment of White House offices and private living quarters

            85. Paid for redecoration of White House living quarters out of his own pocket

            86. Held first Seder in White House

            87. Oversaw the enactment of the first national heallthcare system, Obamacare, which has allowed more than 10 million Americans to become insured who had never been insured before. Savings realized by those who have become newly ensured has actually be found to be helping spur the economy.

            88. Has put the ball in play for comprehensive immigration reform – which is only being blocked because of GOP obstructionism

            89. His administrations energy policies have increased the production of oil and natural gas in Amnerica to the point that the U.S. may soon overtake Russia as the world’s largest producers of energy

            90. The green side of his Stimulus package was so successful that a book was wrtten about how “ginormously” successul the package was to kickstarting altlernative energy souces
            91. His administration has rounded up and deported more troublesome illegal aliens than any previous president that were costing our country billions of law enforcement dollars
            92. During his entire presidency his administration has kept constant pressure on terrorists which not only succeeded in locating and killing the mastermind of the 9/11 attacks but also in eliminating more than 50 other al Qaeda operatives

          • Ed Portela

            Indy: I will answer your impossibly long (and boooooring) post with a very short one:
            1) It’s Barack, not Barak, Indy !
            2) If you had limited yourself to Barack’s REAL accomplishments, your looooong and boooooring rant would have been 2 sentences long.
            3) Why don’t you just go ahead, you mindless Odumbo sycophant (look it up, Indy !) and kiss the guy’s a** ??!!

          • Independent1

            I’m not surprised you found the list boring – generally anything beyond 4th grade level reading is boring to low IQ conservatives. But in any case, your response was the typical GOP lover copout – as it’s clear you can’t come up with one thing that states any facts; which simply confirms the conclusions of this article:

            Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice


          • Ed Portela

            low IQ? That would be you !!
            You are funny !! DENSE but funny, Indy.
            Grow up and get out of your Mom’s basement.

          • MJRinPA

            “NO ONE previous presidential candidate was as unprepared for the presidency as Barack, ….”
            Why do you always forget G W Bush?
            There is a man that was totally unprepared. He destroyed every business his father gifted him. Then he destroyed the US economy, and foreign policy, and education, and the environment,….

          • Ed Portela

            Not true.

          • MJRinPA

            Be more specific. What sentence do you think is not true?

          • Ed Portela

            MJ: Not ONE sentence is true.
            Additionally, you say (about GW Bush) that “There is a man that was totally unprepared.” Are you kidding me? OBAMA was (and, sadly, still is) really, totally unprepared; and the voters believed him, tsk, tsk ….
            Saying that GW Bush was “totally unprepared” while comparing him to our “community organizer” is like saying that Churchill disliked a few Jews while comparing him with Hitler ….
            LOL !!!!

          • MJRinPA

            “Not ONE sentence is true.” Try again. George H W Bush gave jr several businesses. He destroyed every single one. That’s a fact. Fox news declaring something is not a fact, does not change the fact.

          • MJRinPA

            Education – No Child Left Behind. What nonsense, it should have been named every child left behind.

  • sigrid28

    Now prominent Republicans hope to win by equating desperation with love? Anything but acknowledge that the 1% should be obliged to give just a little bit back, that crony capitalism below the Rio Grande drives the desperate into the arms of crony capitalism overhead. Immigrant voters may have been fooled by one Bush, but I doubt they will be fooled by another–or anyone else who tries to paint inequality this scale with the brush of humanity, however well meaning. Jeb Bush is just as calculating at Chris Christie, who thinks he can dupe voters by insulting journalists who point out that he turned even his supposed investigation into the Bridgegate Scandel into just another campaign fund-raising ploy.

  • kanawah

    Just what we need. Another fuckup Bush.
    Fortunately, he is too far to the left for the teatards, and will never get past the primaries.

    • 1standlastword

      So right you are.

      And…not even GWB wouldn’t be elected in the current conservative climate

      • Russell Byrd

        Forgive me for being a smart-aleck, but GWB wasn’t in fact “elected” to his first term, was he. 🙂

        That would have meant that he most certainly would not have been around for his second term. In fact, some are uncertain that he even won that term either.

  • The Pope

    Weren’t Jeb and John Hinckley Jr. best friends before Hinckley shot Reagan?

  • FT66

    Is there anyone thinking if you put the Bushes and the Clintons to compete, and the Bushes will emerge as winners? Really! That is not going to happen. Even Jeb including his entire family know this. I feel very, very sorry for Jeb because he is going to carry all the sins his entire family did to the nation, incase he decides to jump onto competition, hence lose election because of that.

    • Sand_Cat

      Believe me, he DESERVES THEM!

      • Independent1

        Yep! Just one more crook within a den of thieves.

        • Russell Byrd

          A den of criminally insane thieves. 🙂

    • Russell Byrd

      Even Jeb’s mother said that he should not run. Barbara Bush said that there had been “enough Bushes” in the White House.

  • terry b

    The last president was thought of as a very lousy president. For multiple reasons which are all valid. The difference between Bush and those now attempting to gain the office that he should never had won is that he did not remind me of Adolph Hitler as all the rest do/did. The conservative movement has destroyed a once decent party. The battle between the loony left and the retarded right has been going on for decades but now the latter has gained more power. Fortunately that power allows the country to see how the party has been infected by what is commonly know as “The Crazies”. If anyone wants the country to go backward, vote republican.

    • Allan Richardson

      The biggest weapon of the Crazy Right is convincing Americans that even the most reasonable centrist Democrats are the “Loony Left.” There is nothing “loony” about wanting to rein in the EXTREMES of wealth inequality so that everyone can have a fair shot, or about taking care of those who are truly in need (even if a few, and there have only been a few in reality, undeserving stow away for the ride also), or preserving LIFE even for those without money, or protecting LEGAL voters from intentionally expensive and unreasonable hurdles to vote, or protecting INDIVIDUAL First Amendment rights from those who think the First Amendment is the freedom to impose their religion on others through their financial power over them.

      An objective look at the Obama administration shows that despite being a Democrat, and being painted as a “loony left socialist” (at the same time as a Muslim), he has actually governed more like Dwight Eisenhower than most of today’s Democrats would have done! Except that he has done ONE thing that even Eisenhower (or anyone else since LBJ’s Medicare) couldn’t do (and none of the Republicans even TRIED to do): get almost everyone covered under a health plan, except the people whose states BLOCKED them from doing so.

      • Russell Byrd

        I am with you 100%. You nailed all the points very concisely.

      • terry b

        Very concise and articulate. Well done Allan!

  • bubba2001

    Someone should have handed him a gold watch when he made that immigration remark. He’s all done!

  • 1standlastword

    Like a dog that returns to its vomit Is a fool who repeats his folly.

    That is the Republican Party

    • Russell Byrd

      What did that poor pitiful dog ever do to be compared to a Rethuglicon? 🙂

  • thegriffin

    . . .
    I would never vote for a Bush again, as there is too much history with the Bush family that is anti-American, anti-Patriotic and anti-Christian, starting with Preston Bush, the Nazi and Hitler supportor; George senior, the maker of dictators; through George junior, the most corrupt president during My lifetime. Why would I voter for Jeb Bush? The Bush family and the republican party can bundle Jeb Bush as a moderate, caring American, but his governorship in Florida show his true self.

    • Allan Richardson

      I believe you mean Prescott, not Preston. I heard that one of Jeb’s sons is named Prescott, after his great-grandfather. I am from Florida and lived there during his two terms; he was being pushed by the Christian Taliban churches, mainly because of his anti-abortion positions (that seems to be the ONLY issue for some people; which is a chilling thought if we ever get anyone like the Romanian dictator Nicolae Ceausescu running for office, since after all, he WAS anti-abortion).

      Jeb appears to have slightly different personal attitudes than the other Bushes because he married a Mexican woman and converted to the Catholic faith because of her. Most of the negatives of his reign had more to do with just being a Republican and following the party line than with any personal character flaws, which makes him MORE dangerous if he runs, since he will be under party control regardless of his personal views.

      When Rick Scott was elected, I suddenly had more appreciation for his two GOP predecessors, Jeb and Charlie Crist. Charlie has since discovered that he was really a Democrat all along, so I have given to his campaign to defeat Scott. But DURING Jeb’s reign, I was not too happy with him, especially when it seemed he had unfairly helped his brother in the recount controversy of 2000.

      Here’s a Karnak-type answer and question for you:

      The answer is: Brazilian pepper, melaleuca and Jeb.

      The question is: name three bushes that have ruined Florida’s environment.

  • ChristoD

    What you all seem to want to bypass….it is called the ‘inconvenient truth’….. is that almost HALF the voting public supports the Republican side. That is over 100 million people ! What needs to be said and emphasized over and over again is that this population has been fed lie after lie after lie and chooses to accept the lies without seriously questioning them. That is the real issue not just the Tea Party and religious right zealots but millions of everyday hardworking good people have been sucked in by the lie machine. It appears that the only true way to combat this is to produce a reverse Republican propaganda process that refutes every lie with the truth and keep saying and writing it over and over and over again just as they do to counter these lies. Frankly folks, the Democratic party sucks at doing exactly that and why is not clear.

  • Kurt CPI

    Anyone named “Bush” will be a hard sell. The Bush’s grew up in Texas and had much personal interaction with immigrants from the southern border. In that regard, the stereotypical image of gun-toting, drug- smuggling Hispanic gangs is not what their reality has taught them about immigrants.
    But they also grew up as 4th generation oil magnates. Rich, elite, privileged beyond most Americans’ wildest dreams. Preservation of that status for them and their elite peers was as much a part of their education as arithmetic. I believe the Bush’s loyalty to that cause trumps their loyalty to the greater cause of American ideals. John and Robert Kennedy rose above their privileged upbringing, pressing the system toward a return to the ideals of its architects. I don’t see any hints of that in the Bush clan.

    • Sand_Cat

      At first glance, I thought you said the Bushes are fourth-generation “maggots.” I don’t know about the generation count, but George for sure and Jeb probably deserve that term.

      • Russell Byrd

        Don’t you think it is ironic that W and Jeb are probably as close to “normal” as Rethug pollies ever get. Really, what do they have to offer instead. They are looking for a cross between Pat Robertson,Josef Mengele, Josef Stalin, and Dick Cheney. The Teanderthals that they are all afraid of want an insane candidate to match their own insanity. As long as we have a scared white electorate that will vote for Satan, as long as he is a Rethug, and pitifully low turnouts for our elections, we will always be in danger of having a criminally insane President.

        I will say, I have never voted for “Bush” anything, so there is no danger that I will ever fall for the Jeb malarkey. If you are interested, I will give you my take on G. H. W. Bush.

        • Allan Richardson

          Don’t forget Nicolae Ceausescu for the “pro-lifers.”

          • Russell Byrd

            Right, Allan. I think there is room for Nicolae in there somewhere. Turds in the weather, float together.

    • Anne

      And maggots they are, the Bushes. Ah, you said magnates. Sorry, I misread that. Oh well…………….

  • bcarreiro

    Your brother was not elected, he was given a free pass to shit on the american people due to your inside help. WE wont let another bush destroy what we built. Dont fear people…Hillary 2016!!!

  • Erlen Willouby

    Jeb Bush is breath of fresh air for the GOP it is also very cute how father H.W. and his mother Barb are campaigning so determinedly for their son.
    W’s bwudda for America!

  • paulyz

    It isn’t just the Republicans that don’t want (ANOTHER) Amnesty, most Independent & Democrat voters don’t want it as well. It seems that only Special Interests want it. Why is any American criticized for being upset that we have been lied to over & over about fully securing our borders and passing Mandatory E-verify to finally STOP Illegal Trespassing by the MILLIONS? Americans are, & have always been very generous in LEGAL Immigration, but we must finally stop the flow of MILLIONS of ILLEGALS from burdening American families, taking out jobs, using our health care & schools at out expense, and committing much crime! Enough!, We must as a 1st. & Separate Bill; fully secure our borders, pass & enforce mandatory E-verify, & Stop visa overstays, B/4 discussing any other related issues.

    • charleo1

      Well Sir, it’s actually the corporatist politicians, protecting what their
      benefactors see, as their God given Right to procure the cheapest labor available. It is Capitalism 101. And Republicanism 101, to keep
      the government’s hands tied, with respect to an uninterrupted steady flow of available workers. They have no more of a problem with the unfair burden of the undocumented labor being foisted upon the communities in which they reside. One iota more than they have any particular ideological aversions to mega retailers using the welfare system to subsidize their payrolls, thereby increasing their bottom lines. The truth my friend, is a hard one. In a world where the bottom line determines the agenda, is your problem, not theirs. The truth is, there is no truth allowed. If their obstruction, and opposition work as designed, the day will never come, they will be forced to openly object to E- Verify. Or, a system that ultimately deals with the unidentified, and exploited. Because they know they will always come, as long as there are jobs. And as long as they hire them in the current manner, the profits will continue to flow into their pockets. As the immigrants flow to fill them. That is the policy. They will allow no other.

      • Allan Richardson

        Exactly. The big businesses block all efforts to prosecute THEM and punish THEM (more than $100 fines, anyway) for HIRING people who arrive here illegally, but they still want their work force to BE here illegally, so they can’t complain unless they want to go home and leave their families behind.

        • charleo1

          Setting aside the racial aspect, and cultural protectionism, borne out of the fear some are experiencing, as they see the Country changing,
          right before their eyes. All the excuses, “first secure the border,” “no amnesty, no way,” “round them up,
          and make them go to the end of the line,” Is
          actually, a follow the money issue.

    • Russell Byrd

      Another FUed Teatardicon troll.

      What does all that rot have to do with the price of sliced bread, OR the article?

  • Sand_Cat

    Hey, wasn’t Jeb’s wife’s attempt to sneak 15-20 thousand dollars’ worth of jewelry past customs a few years back an “act of love”?

    • Anne

      People still don’t have a nose full of those smelly Bushes? How odd.

  • Sand_Cat

    “The only thing we have to offer is fear” is a damned lie!
    The GOP also offers hate, rage, racism,, selfishness, greed, dishonesty, and so much more!

    • Judith

      Hate=law breaking
      Selfishness= jobs for Americans.
      Rage at the audacity of the law breakers.
      Greed, we want Americans to have a future.
      Dishonest =ethnocentrism
      and so much more
      despicable criminals……all.

      • Russell Byrd

        What does all that even mean? Speak to your audience please, not you yourself. . . .

  • Frederick Lilly

    Jeb is being paid $$$$$$ for his speechs just like Hillary and Bill. That’s all he wants.

  • ps0rjl

    Jeb Bush is not George Bush. For one thing he is smart. As for baggage, he doesn’t carry anymore than Hillary does. I wouldn’t say he is a Republican in the mark of Nelson Rockefeller or Eisenhower but he is definitely too moderate for the right wing of his party.I seriously doubt he will get the nomination as the extreme right wing of the GOP would never support him.

    • Independent1
    • FredAppell

      All valid points except that the radicals of the right are still just a fringe group, they won’t pose much of a threat to Jeb and they may find themselves having to either support Jeb or stay home. Besides, Jeb is still a moderate to conservative politician who may find himself very popular among independents and even conservative Democrats. The real threat is his ability to stack the SCOTUS with right wing ideologue’s. If that happens we may end up kissing our Democracy goodbye. FYI, Rockefeller probably wasn’t the best example, after all, he was the one that gave us our draconian drug laws.

      • Allan Richardson

        If they are a fringe group, the fringe has been wagging the garment for the last few years!

        • FredAppell

          Allen, they are a fringe group, however that being said, they are being backed by very wealthy people,
          ie; the Koch brothers and Sheldon Adelson. If you look at history, you’ll notice that minority groups are always the loudest. It isn’t difficult for even one person to receive a lot of attention as long as they are well organized and well motivated, couple that with money and the proper press and they could become a legitimate threat. Donald Trump is a great example of what I’m talking about.

  • Jambi

    The entire Bush “clan” needs to move back to Maine and quit trying to be “Big Texas oil Baron” types or phoney -patriots who are only interested in padding their pockets with money….They play only for the sympathies of the ignorant voter in poor red states…

  • notafoxfan

    he has said in the past he did not want to run for president..although his mother,barbara,also has said she always thought he would be the presidential candidate, and not “w”..bush,christie ticket?? I am frightened!

    • Independent1

      Don’t be scared! Even Republicans don’t like Jeb. Here’s an excerpt from a recent article on Jeb’s PR problems:

      “He’s pro-amnesty, pro-Common Core, pro-Big Business & he wants to be president,” Michelle Malkin tweeted on Monday. On NewsMax TV, former Rep. Allen West called Bush an “elitist” and said his immigration comments were “disrespectful to the American people.” And national radio talk show host Mark Levin has called the prospect of another Bush presidency “extremely unhealthy for the Republic.”

      Notice the last 3-word sentence:

      [C]ertain Republican party donors have come to believe there exists a widespread nostalgia for the Bush era. They are urging Jeb Bush, the ex-president’s younger brother and the former governor of Florida, to explore a presidential campaign. They are nuts.

      Jeb Bush! Don’t go there!!–Jeb-Bush-Don-t-Go-There?detail=email#


    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ….

    Jeb Bush as POTUS? You gotta be kidding me.

    Besides family members, who would be dumb enough to elect this guy to any office higher than dog catcher?

    Looks as though we have seen the last Republican POTUS for some time to come. That is unless the GOP finds another 6 foot four inch Illinois rail splitter they can talk into running for some office.

    • Allan Richardson

      And if he came back to life, he would be a Democrat. His writings about going beyond the abolition of “official” slavery to the abolition of “wage slavery” got him called a socialist in his day. Had he lived, his own party would have turned on him as anti-business and too pro-union before his second term was over.

  • Judith

    When my college educated very nice son finds a decent job, we can talk about immigration reform…until then, NO WAY.

  • sigrid28

    Now prominent Republicans hope to win by equating desperation with love? Anything but acknowledge that the 1% should be obliged to give just a little bit back, that crony capitalism below the Rio Grande drives the desperate into the arms of crony capitalism overhead. Immigrant voters may have been fooled by one Bush, but I doubt they will be fooled by another–or anyone else who tries to paint inequality on this scale with the brush of humanity, however well meaning. Behind the benign mien of a former governor urging what?–something genuinely helpful, like passage of an Immigration bill in Congress (he didn’t propose that!)?–Jeb Bush is just as calculating at Chris Christie, who thinks he can dupe voters by insulting journalists who point out that he turned even his supposed investigation into the Bridgegate Scandal into just another campaign fund-raising ploy. Bush hopes to appeal to voters as a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Christie hopes to appeal to the aggrieved Republican base like the wolf in Red Riding Hood, gnashing his big teeth at Grandma and scaring little girls. Minorities and women, who are not fooled by either of these guys, will reject these blandishments at the voting booth.