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Friday, October 28, 2016

On Thursday evening, House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) finally revealed the details of his long-awaited plan to sue President Barack Obama, and they come as something of a surprise. In essence, the Speaker is asking the House to sue the president for not implementing Obamacare quickly enough.

“Today we’re releasing a draft resolution that will authorize the House to file suit over the way President Obama unilaterally changed the employer mandate,” Boehner said in a statement. “In 2013, the president changed the health care law without a vote of Congress, effectively creating his own law by literally waiving the employer mandate and the penalties for failing to comply with it. That’s not the way our system of government was designed to work. No president should have the power to make laws on his or her own.”

Legally, Boehner’s plan is on shaky ground. While the House has never institutionally sued a president for not enforcing the law, several individual members of Congress have tried, and almost all of their cases were dismissed for lack of standing. Even if a court agrees to hear the case, it’s not at all clear that President Obama broke the law by delaying the implementation of the employer mandate, giving employers with more than 50 full-time employees an extra year to offer their workers health insurance. And even if the House wins its suit, its prize would likely be the immediate implementation of a policy which Republicans claim to hate.

Politically, Boehner’s plan seems destined to fall flat. It promises to undermine Republicans’ own talking points, while potentially pushing the far right even further towards open revolt against his authority.

When Speaker Boehner announced his intention to sue the president, he laid out a broad range of areas in which President Obama had supposedly acted illegally.

“On one matter after another during his presidency, President Obama has circumvented the Congress through executive action, creating his own laws and excusing himself from executing statutes he is sworn to enforce – at times even boasting about his willingness to do it, as if daring the America people to stop him,” Boehner wrote. “On matters ranging from health care and energy to foreign policy and education, President Obama has repeatedly run an end-around on the American people and their elected legislators, straining the boundaries of the solemn oath he took on Inauguration Day.”

But when it came time to pick an executive action for the lawsuit, he settled on one that Republicans themselves supported. House Republicans wanted to delay the employer mandate, and they voted to do so in July 2013. And when President Obama delayed it unilaterally, Republicans didn’t complain that he abused his power. Instead, they urged him to do it again.

“Is it fair for the president of the United States to give American businesses an exemption from his health care law’s mandate without giving the same exemption to the rest of America? Hell no, it’s not fair,” Boehner said at the time. “We should be thinking about giving the rest of America the same exemption that Obama last week gave businesses.”

Now House Republicans must explain why, one year ago, they were encouraging the president to “run an end-around” on them.

They also must explain what happened to all of the other examples of President Obama’s iron-fisted tyranny. As The New Republic’s Brian Beutler points out, Republicans — led by Boehner — have literally spent years accusing President Obama of recklessly breaking the law when it suits his needs. The fact that the employer-mandate delay from one year ago is the only example that they could come up with badly undermines that talking point.

Finally, by picking the employer mandate as the hill on which he’ll die, Boehner may have created an even greater political problem for himself. The Speaker’s decision to sue the president has been widely interpreted as a tactic to placate right-wing Republicans who would rather see Boehner attempt to impeach Obama. Whether he’s successful remains to be seen. Boehner’s lawsuit plan has certainly not changed the minds of those Republicans who have already called for Obama to be removed from office, and it seems very plausible that it won’t leave the congressmen who have accused Obama of breaking the law in other areas — such as immigration reform — satisfied. If one of them chooses to ignore Boehner’s wishes and introduces a resolution of impeachment, it would create a crisis for Boehner’s leadership — and end the Republican Party’s hopes of keeping its base under control through the midterms.

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  • Dominick Vila

    Speaker Boehner’s decision would be one of the funniest political faux pas in history, if it wasn’t because he is wasting tax payer’s monies. Suing the President because he concurred with GOP demands to delay the implementation of the ACA mandate for companies with more than 50 employees by one year, is not only cynical, it is ridiculous.
    The Executive branch has the power to accelerate or delay the implementation of new or existing Federal government programs. Congress never liked it when it happened in the past, but they never went as far as Boehner is planning to go because they know that the authority issue can backfire. In this case, Boehner is putting his followers in the uncomfortable position of complaining because the social program they have tried to repeal repeatedly because it was not implemented in a timely manner!
    Boehner’s claims regarding President Obama’s use of Executive Orders would also be a dangerous precedent, if the issue goes to the SCOTUS and rules in his favor. In addition to President Obama signing fewer EOs than most of his predecessors, a SCOTUS decision favorable to Boehner would deny future Republican presidents the ability to govern when the opposition controls Congress. Boehner is walking a fine line, ostensibly to satisfy his most rabid – and myopic – supporters, and he and the GOP may live to regret their grandstand, which is bound to fail miserably.

    • sigrid28

      Perhaps it is his parting gift, Dominick. Boehner must be just counting the minutes until the summer recess begins, like students who pine for summer vacation. He plans to implement this thing–or whatever you’d call, what he’ll do, some initial hearing or other–just before all members of Congress leave for the month’s vacation they take every August. It’s like dropping a bomb on a Friday, hoping no one will notice. When he returns in September, he no doubt plans to stall it, and stall it, and stall it, until the election in November. I think delaying and hoping it dies during August is a mistake: the right-wing media don’t take the month off, nor do the rest of the 24/7 members of the Fourth Estate, who will grizzle and grizzle and grizzle this thing for all it’s worth. By the time Congress reconvenes, it could have morphed into something he and his T-Party base never anticipated. But I doubt that this metamorphosis will be anything that either scares the daylights out of the Obama administration or satisfies the restless Republican base with its taste for blood–and I don’t mean blood transfusions. How can the courts demand that the wrong done by this delay of the small business portion of the ACA be made whole? By having it kick in earlier!

      • Dominick Vila

        I agree. Boehner is, obviously, trying to satisfy and motivate his base on the eve of a midterm election. Like you said, I doubt Tea Party members will be too impressed with what Boehner is doing, not only because it negates the claims they have been making about ACA and it is the opposite to what they wanted, but because they want something much more tangible. That is, something that could, at least in their minds, be close to an impeachable offense.
        I also agree with your conclusion about President Obama not being too concerned about this. In fact, he and all the senior members of his administration probably got a good laugh out of this ridiculous stunt.

    • sigrid28

      Watching Rachel Maddow tonight another plausible idea was floated that belongs on this comment thread: Maybe Boehner intends to let this crazy thing just wobble along (as I have said), taking the oxygen out of the far-right’s impulse to try to impeach President Obama, to save the Republican party from an even worse mis-step than this goofy law suit. Put another way, perhaps it is a rouse to trick the far-right into settling for this iffy “never before attempted in the Big Ring” law suit rather than forcing House members, who are up for re-election, to have to defend impeachment proceedings that could scuttle the Republicans’ chances for holding their seats in Congress. Under this scenario, Boehner is sort of taking one for the Gipper. If so, I can’t believe it has come to this, that grown men and women refuse to stand up to a minority of voters whose ideas are not instep with the majority in this country. This behavior belongs in high school not in the halls of Congress.

      • nana4gj

        If we ever were invaded by an oppressor, Boehner and the GOP of today would just go along to get along as long as they kept their entitlements and were “safe”. They’re like that Vichy govt in WWII France.

        • Ford Truck

          A sad reality is that 95% of Americans don’t have a clue that the French Vichy govt was!

      • TZToronto

        The Tea Party faithful are like children with shiny toys. Whatever they’re interested in today, they can be lured away with something else that grabs their attention–even if it’s that new chainsaw that they don’t have a clue how to use. So when they’re all excited about repeal of the ACA, along comes Benghazi to draw they interest; and now Boehner’s lawsuit will draw their notice away from Benghazi–until something else flashy comes along. I’m surprised that their heads don’t explode with all of that head-turning, this way and that, when the bright lights start flashing from another direction.

        • DurdyDawg

          I’m forced to disagree with you concerning T-Peers being like children.. Children disagree but soon get over it.. These punks have been on the wire since 2012 and there seems to be no end in sight especially if another democrat wins the presidency and augmented if it happens to be Hillary Clinton. They’re worse than children and the only thing that’s kept them from their most insane IS the shiny things.. Let’s hope the shiny things continue in sequence for our sake.

    • darkagesbegin

      Except that quite likely there will never be another republican president…

      • Dominick Vila

        I would not say never, but it is going to be a long time before mainstream Americans forget Bush’s policies and the effect of Republican policies on our economy, job creation, and security.

        • nana4gj

          And as long as there is a Republican Party that grows more stupid and obnoxious every day, with amateurs they send to Congress, it will be an even longer time before we can forget Bush’s policies and Cheney’s evil conduct as VP.

      • Sand_Cat

        We all fervently hope you’re right, but never underestimate the power of stupidity. If the public is so smart, why are there any Republicans in office now, never mind why is there danger they’ll increase their numbers in November?

        • plc97477

          There are repugs in office because of gerrymandering. They have made their districts so safe they don’t have to worry so far. I am not sure they are as safe as they think though.

          • Independent1

            Let’s hope you’re right. It really would be great if 2014 was a turnaround from 2010 and it was the Dems who took over big.

    • nana4gj

      We should file a class action suit that this law suit of his be paid for out of pocket by the GOP, and Republican members of House of Reps.

      They have wasted more money in their antics, shutting down the government, 52 attempts to repeal ACA, hearings over nothing but what they concoct in their minds, and now this. Yet, they refuse to allocate monies for the current situation on the border unless it is offset…..or they can blackmail that money using ACA, Soc Sec, and who knows what else.

      • Dominick Vila

        GOP lawmakers claim we don’t have money to repair/modernize our infrastructure. We don’t have money to fund a desperately needed program designed to provide healthcare to all Americans. We don’t have time for education, to strengthen Social Security and MEDICARE, but they have no problem wasting money on lawsuits or wasting it in the largest redistribution of wealth from the public to the private sector in Iraq. They remember austerity when it involves social programs that benefit the average American.

    • 1standlastword

      And these people are piloting our country to where…?!!!

      • Dominick Vila

        If they succeed, and their policies are implemented, we will land in a place called the Third World.

        • 1standlastword

          In the spiritual sense, we are already like a 3rd world country: despairing and profoundly pessimistic. The one thing the republican party has done with profound proficiency is demoralize the country; and it started with the policies of Bush that promoted endless war for profit and the staging for most profound transfer of wealth since the great depression.
          Obama’s message of hope and change was a spiritual message to restore faith and community and the republicans have very effectively destroyed faith and community.
          The republicans campaigned on promoting hatred of government to exploit people’s anger at the government they created under Bush and the neoconservative.
          To effect their rotten schemes they exploited our fear, our faith and our patriotism; and worse of all they use the government that they defame to demoralize us further.
          I don’t think Americans will settle for 3rd world status and I can’t see how reducing this country to that status will be good for our government no matter whose running it! If the republicans continue with these divisive and malevolent schemes they are going to provoke social unrest and that might make being a politician as dangerous as soldiering!

          • Dominick Vila

            Great post! However, I believe our decline began in the 1980s, when President Reagan did everything in his power to demonize the government, undermine its effectiveness, while using that institution to pursue his socio-economic goals. Needless to say, Bush II was an outstanding pupil.
            The consequences of their policies, actions, and statements are still being felt, and are the reason for the demoralization and pessimism that is apparent among so many of our countrymen.

          • 1standlastword

            So the only thing that trickled down was the ideology prescribing how republicans should act to undermine the middle class. Exactly!

          • idamag

            I believe you are right.

      • Ford Truck

        The Republicans are trying to steer us to a slave-trade port in the 1850s.

  • Siegfried Heydrich

    I don’t see this ending well for the republican party. It’s very unlikely that this will be resolved by the time midterms roll around, and if there’s not a trial underway by then, I suspect the base is going to howl. Especially if they fail to take the Senate, which I think is slipping through their grasp even now.

    When this tactic turns out to be, as the author put it, a dud, the base is going to go up like a fireball. I think Boehner will be very hard put to retain his speaker chair when the base discovers that they’ve been hoodwinked yet again. They’re going to demand impeachment, and will force Boehner’s hand to either file articles or step down as speaker. I guess we’ll find out the depth of Boehner’s cravenness then – does he cave to the demands of the lunatics, or does he stand up against them? And if he does, will he survive the experience?

    The base is going to demand impeachment, come hell or high water. If the GOP goes that route, well, I think Hillary would really enjoy taking office with a House majority and a filibuster-proof Senate. The grownups in the Republican party know what a debacle impeachment was for them the last time they tried it, and know that it’s a guaranteed loss for them. But the zanies simply don’t care. In fact, they would welcome the weakening of the party, as it would be more vulnerable to a takeover by them.

    • FireBaron

      Hey, if they do pass it, then they have something other than their repeated attempts to annul the ACA to brag to the base about. It also sort of makes Cryin’ John look relevant – especially after Ted Cruz tried to hijack the House earlier this year.

      • jmprint

        The law suit idea is ALL Ted Cruz (The Legal Limit), I can almost hear him tell Boehner, either you go after Obama with the lawsuit or we will puppeteer Sarah Palin into repeating IMPEACH, until people are soooo sick of the word, they would like to see it deleted from Webster.

    • Dominick Vila

      The only benefit I see out of this decision is that Speaker Boehner handed the Democrats an early Christmas present. Don’t be surprised if after the GOP-TP gets over their “sue Obama” kick, they realize that the most senior Republican in Congress scuttled the centerpiece of the GOP 2014 campaign strategy. Can you imagine Republicans demonizing Obamacare in weeks to come, after suing the President for not implementing Obamacare soon enough? I would not be surprised to hear calls for Boehner’s resignation.
      Thank You cards are in order.

      • latebloomingrandma

        Is it too much to hope that Boehner’s district will “pull a Cantor” on him, and put us all out of our misery?

      • TZToronto

        Sadly, I think that such incongruity is lost on the Tea Party faithful.

  • Daniel Jones

    However this plays out, I reserve the right to play AllYourBase by The Laziest Men On Mars when it all crashes and burns.

  • old_blu

    So let’s see if I’ve got this right.
    The same law that the Righties tried to repeal, and defund, etc. etc, and said it was unconstitutional 50+ times now they are trying to sue President Obama for not implementing it fast enough?
    Can anyone tell me if I’ve got that right?
    Is there someone on here who can defend that thought process?
    If there is you should be ashamed of yourselves.

    • plc97477

      The only defense to this thought process is that the right has it’s own version of reality and anything that doesn’t fit in their reality obviously doesn’t exist.

      • neeceoooo

        My fear is that some people actually believe that this is going to happen

    • charleo1

      Yes, you got it right, alright. No, I can’t defend it. But have you ever heard the amount of wacko crap coming out of that bunch of T- Partiers running the asylum that once was the House of Reps.?
      They hate Boehner, and are once again making him walk the plank. Exactly like the gov. shutdown, he [Boehner} told them would be a mistake. Ted Cruz, is just like last time, egging them on. Walk the plank, Boehner! Well, he’s walking. The thing Boehner will probably be remembered most for, is he came in crying, and he’ll go out the same way. Although for very different reasons.

    • neeceoooo

      I think you got it

  • Eleanore Whitaker

    It’s time for the Senate to impeach Boehner. This Speaker of the House has overextended his authority and is refusing to allow the Executive Branch to do the job it was elected to do. This is no coincidence. It was a well-plotted attempt to reduce the power and authority vested in the Executive branch of the US government. It’s the duty of the Senate to put a stop to this. The Constitution provides for the Senate’s authority to remove the Speaker of the House. His position is 3rd in line should the President and VP be incapacitated in any way and unable to continue to perform their duties. This shows the clearest danger to allowing a man like Boehner to remain as Speaker of the House. The House is taking hostages, not doing the job the Constitution mandates.

    • plc97477

      We can get him out of his job in Jan. if we all get out and vote Dem.

      • Eleanore Whitaker

        I’m tough on demanding responsibility. I understood why President Obama didn’t call for an investigation into Bush and Cheney’s Iraq War debacle. He thought it would offer an olive branch to a bunch of spiteful, belligerent GOP control freaks at the start of a new presidency.

        However, it is the duty of the Senate to demand John Boehner step down.They have the Constitutional authority and capacity to stand up to Boehner and his obstructionists to protect the office of the presidency and the executive branch from being reduced to a lesser, rather than equal branch of government. This is exactly what the GOP bulls would have no reservations or compunctions about doing in the same situation.

        Sometimes, you kick the bull before the bull kicks you.

  • CherMoe

    Boehner is confused. “WE, the people” are total different entities than the “people” of the House of Representatives who have chosen to represent CORPORATIONS rather than American citizens. So when he speaks ‘collectively,” he’s being a real ass. He speaks for himself and his rich cronies in the House and the 1%. NOTHING the Republicans have done was for the benefit of Americans. And to be sure, they have literally DONE NOTHING in their capacity as elected officials that meets the definition of their position. they shouldn’t even be receiving a paycheck. The only thing they’ve done is act as a HATE GROUP trying to overthrow our government. They should be tried for treason.

    • That 1% is made up of mostly liberals now. When are you people going to get that BOTH parties are corrupt? Although I’m backing the right because they seem to at least acknowledge our constitution, and are not turning our country into a communist police state led by a tyrant.

      • old_blu


      • highpckts

        Blah, blah, blah….

      • sealbeams

        They are both corrupt and the American people should have a class action law suit against the legislative branch of the US. Its our money they pilfer. Of course I realize we will do nothing and nothing will change. If this is the best Gov’t money can buy, I will spend mine else where.

        • Don’t forget the executive branch. The Emperor and family have spent millions on just vacations and recreation. All when the American people are being told to tighten their belts. Something very wrong with this picture, but this is why I prefer to refer to him as Emperor. Let them eat cake.

          • sealbeams

            I agree. Might as well get after the Judicial also and start clean if there is such a thing. You can call Obama anything you like. He has earned it. I’m a liberal but could see the hand writing on the wall when Big “O” didn’t go for a single payer. He is no different than the rest of them and maybe worse because he lied about it. They all lie but I was dumb enough to believe in change. So much for that. I have learned to live with my mistake., I wish everyone else would. If the people don’t realize soon what is happening, we won’t have to worry about it anymore. I don’t have much hope considering the fact that so many people are backing Hillary. The same thing over and over again while expecting different results. Stop the world and let me off.

          • DurdyDawg

            Sorry to hear your ‘liberal’ instinct that ALL people should be respected has died and are now confused as to who to vote for next time but here’s some wisdom. If you want to vote conservative next election because your distaught with what you believed was the correct way to view life then for your sake as well as ours, tell the GOP to present us with a real person.. One who cares for ALL Americans and will help them in bad times while still making them earn this help.. This is the libs mistake and by playing the opposite coin (by eliminating help of all kind) the cons are digging they’re own grave while giving the libs only one choice to vote for (at least that 47% of us)..

          • sealbeams

            My instinct hasn’t changed and I am not confused. I don’t see much of a difference in either party. I would stop voting before I would vote for the GOP. If the dems can’t do any better than Hillary, I won’t vote. Since the two party system is controlled by the two party system, a vote for any other party is wasted. What I believe to be correct is not represented by either party. Most people realize politicians are bought and that they serve their owners first. No confusion here. Until this changes, I will not participate. Its amazing to me that anyone participates. The truth is, voting is just about all that is left for the people. You made the point yourself to kenndeb. All presidents spend big bucks doing what ever they want while we are told to tighten our belts. Congress does the same. Not new. Thats my point. This BS needs to change.

          • charleo1

            Just a word here for the frustrated. While I understand
            your angst, you must keep in mind, democracy is not a spectator sport, and victories always go to those who show up. So such protestations as, they’re all the same, so I’ll not be bothered. Or if my candidate is not on ballot, I’ll boycott the process. Well then, all that happens in the end, is the guy who shows up will probably vote for the guy you least agree with. And
            since voting is essentially an exercise in attrition, the
            same guy now knocks out my vote too. As you and I
            may well have agreed on the candidate that most closely represented our opinions. So your non-vote
            helped the nut, or the ideologue, or the guy that went
            on to do how much damage with a single vote, on a
            very important Bill. As history tells us, in the end most democracies fail. And they do so, not because people want to be ruled. But because people allow themselves to talked out of believing in their own abilities to effect change by democratic methods. And
            isn’t that one of the many messages being propagated out there today? That your participation
            doesn’t really count? I urge you to reject the nihilism.

          • sealbeams

            If I know myself as well as I think I do, in the end I will probably reluctantly vote. Not because I think it will make a difference. I don’t. Like you and many others it has been drilled into my head since I was a kid that if I don’t take part in this my opinion is worthless. I don’t believe this either. It is just another way to keep the sheep moving. Thanks for the pep talk.

          • charleo1

            Glad to hear you’re voting! And everyone can use a
            pep talk once in a while. Mine was just passing forward the one I needed last month!

          • idamag

            unfortunately money has corrupted the government and I can see why you are frustrated. Our only hope is that somewhere down the road people will see what money has done and demand election reform.

          • neeceoooo

            The only way the BS will change is you need to vote

          • sealbeams

            We got where we are by voting. We need a good candidate. Then things might change.

          • idamag

            No, we got where we are because of money. When money talks integrity walks.

          • DurdyDawg

            Well I’m glad to hear your unbiased point and I must agree that neither party representative should even come close to my grand daughter for fear they will steal her lollypop.. No one can argue with your consensus.. only when idiots claim that the GOP is the answer to our woes.. We argue because we know exactly what they are. The Dems are indeed a step behind them but they have a better mind set.. They at least try to compromise with the people and if it wasn’t for the rabid GOP opposition I’m certain that good things would result from the compromise. It will never happen with this president though because the cons have hated this black man from the moment he was sworn in and they’ll hate that woman if she happens to win as well. There is one promise that I think the GOP will succeed in.. McConnell said it, ” My new mission is to deny Barack Obama a THIRD term”.. They just keep on nudging.

          • 1standlastword

            Seal, I am sympathetic with your views. But right now the GOP is the worst case scenario!!!! With the GOP the American majority doesn’t a snowball’ chance in HELL!
            The poor dirty Red State cons don’t have a snowball’s chance in HELL either but they don’t know it because they think their great white fathers are coming to save them LOL!!!

          • idamag

            Sometimes I wish he had did something different, but if you will remember the days prior to the ACA, he couldn’t possibly have gotten a single payer. As long as greed and selfishness supersedes compassion we will not have the health care we should have.

          • sealbeams

            I don’t think we could have gotten single payer. I’m saying that is or in my opinion should have been the goal. There would have been a compromise. What we ended up with is a complicated mess that most don’t even understand. More of the same. The ones that do understand it, hate it.

          • idamag

            We got what we could get. It will be the base for the single payer when we get Congresspersons who are more for the people than the corporations. Money has corrupted our government and I hope it is not beyond repair.

          • neeceoooo

            I have to disagree, a lot of the people that have signed up for the ACA are pleased with it.

          • sealbeams

            Your right. I get negative sometimes. What you say is true.

          • Independent1

            Where are you getting the misguided notion that “The ones that do understand it, hate it”???

            That’s a blatant lie!!!

            Turns out, Republicans Love Obamacare
            BY IGOR VOLSKY JULY 10, 2014 AT 9:32 AM UPDATED: JULY 10, 2014 AT 11:07 AM

            Conservative groups have invested millions of dollars in opposing the Affordable Care Act, but they appear to have had little success in turning Americans against the law. In fact, according to a new poll from the Commonwealth Fund, individuals and families who enroll in Obamacare — including the overwhelming majority of Republicans — aresatisfied with the product:

            Overall, 73 percent of people who bought health plans and 87 percent of those who signed up for Medicaid said they were somewhat or very satisfied with their new health insurance. Seventy-four percent of newly insured Republicans liked their plans. Even 77 percent of people who had insurance before — including members of the much-publicized group whose plans got canceled last year — were happy with their new coverage.

            The study also found that the percentage of uninsured has dropped, from 20 percent to 15 percent, after the first open enrollment period, with 9.5 million fewer people now uninsured. Latinos, the most likely of any racial group to lack health insurance, are seeing the biggest gains in coverage. “The percent uninsured fell from 36 percent in July–September 2013 to 23 percent in April–June 2014,” Commonwealth reports.

            Moreover, states that expanded their Medicaid programs experienced the biggest drop in uninsurance rates for low-income citizens. In the 25 states and the District of Columbia that implemented coverage expansion for poorer residents, the average uninsured rate for people living below the poverty level fell to 17 percent from 28 percent. The 26 states that have rejected Medicaid expansion continue to see the uninsured rate among low income individuals hover at 36 percent.

          • ConstablePlod

            You say “Conservative groups have invested millions of dollars in opposing the Affordable Care Act”
            Forbes estimated that the Koch Bros and insurance companies spent $250 million in 2013 alone! A quarter of a billion dollars!

          • idamag

            When I watched the thing enfold, there was a lot of compromising, but it was all one-sided. The ACA is not perfect, but we got what we could get and if we ever get a decent Congress, it can be fixed.

          • sealbeams

            Hope you are right. Getting a decent Congress has been the goal for as long as I can remember.

          • sealbeams

            We will never know what was possible because we didn’t try. The GOP would have been against anything we tried. We should have started with single payer which would have left room for compromise. For me it is like selling you car or house etc. You know the buyer is going to offer you less. That is why you don’t start with a low number and work your way up. You ask for more than you know you can get. We will never turn ACA into a single payer. ACA is still “for profit” health care.

          • 1standlastword

            you are right the main problem is it is for profit heath care and at my clinic I’ve already seen people who can’t afford to get over the deductible. And worse, is the insurance companies get to go back to the well every year and get a little be more expensive. If ACA doesn’t get significant improvements we will see people getting priced out of the market in probably less than 5 years with annual increases around 10-15%

          • sealbeams

            Yes. I sometimes forget about the plus side of this. These two are very important benefits and help some of the people that need help the most. Good point.

          • Independent1

            Obama didn’t lie about anything; it was a fact that Republicans would not support single payer, and the fact is, the country WAS NOT in a financial position to implement single payer. (Obama has actually fully kept more than 300 promises he made while campaigning for the presidency, and partially kept another 100 and has been unable to keep another 100 because the GOP has refused to go along with virtually nothing he wants to do.)

            If you had one ounce of common sense, you would have realized that a time when 14 million people had just become unemployed and tax revenues were down by over 1 trillion dollars, with deficit spending passed on from Bush of 1.4 trillion/yr WAS ABSOLUTELY NO TIME TO BE TALKING ABOUT SINGLE PAYER.

            Do you even have the slightest idea of what the impact of moving to single payer would have had on America?? It would have meant destroying an entire industry called the “healthcare insurance industry’ with all it’s associated support services – which include thousands of insurance agencies across the nation.

            And at a time when America was in a Great Recession with 10% unemployment, you assumed that Congress was going to agree to destroy who knows how many more jobs, maybe another 2 million??? Does that make a lot of sense?? It sure doesn’t to me or anyone with 1/2 a brain!!!!

          • DurdyDawg

            Again look to the past.. ALL presidents have spent big bucks taking breaks and vacations while we were being told to tighten our belts, you know.. just like congress. There’s nothing new under THAT sun.

          • idamag

            The cult says that a Black President is not allowed a break.

          • Independent1

            “The Emperor and family have spent millions on just vacations and recreation. All when the American people are being told to tighten their belts.

            And you continue to highlight your stupidity: Obama pays out of his own pocket for virtually all the costs of the vacations he takes. The only expenses picked up by the government are the travel, and the main reason the government does that is because U.S. law requires that our president be guarded at all times while outside the White House. So since he must take a security detail, taxpayers end up footing the bill for his air fare; and for the lodging of the security detail.
            But aside from the travel expense, Obama pays for wherever he stays in Hawaii or Martha’s Vinyard.

            Given that president’s don’t pay for air fare, I’ll guarantee you that Nixon, Reagan and the 2 Bushes cost the taxpayers millions upon millions more than Obama. Not only did all of them take at least triple the vacation days by the 2nd year of their 2nd term, they took far more trips in and out of Washington than Obama ever dreamed of; Remember, Obama does not have a 2nd White House; while Reagan and the 2 Bushes all had 2nd White Houses and Nixon that 2 2nd White Houses: too which all traveled frequently.

            Not only requiring travel costs, but also requiring extra salary expenses for duplicate staffing. And not only staffing, but also millions in renovation costs to make them suitable as 2nd White Houses and to able to board their security detail.

            Don’t start on Obama’s vacation costs, because what he has spent is DWARFED by what the taxpayers had to pay for George Bush flying for than 78 times back and forth to Texas in his 8 years, not to mention the millions to retrofit his Texas Ranch for a 2nd White House.

            Nixon flew almost constantly between Washington and his White Houses in Florida and California; and so did Reagan to his California Ranch and Bush Sr. to Kennebunkport Maine.

            You right wing loving GOP idiots haven’t got a leg to stand on in criticizing Obama for taking just barely over 100 vacation days, when Bush Sr. took the fewest vacation days of any of the previous GOP presidents I just mentioned at close 300 days, and GWB took the most at over 950 Days in 8 years.

      • Sand_Cat


        • Yeah. I’m an idiot for realizing that our country under this regime is destroying our country, and that the Emperors minions would rather name call than actually look at what is actually happening to our country. How sad that our grandchildren will be forced ton live in a country of liberals that are bent on taking away rights and freedoms that have been fought for over the last 200+ years. They will no longer have freedom, or rights. That will be a nation of slaves for the elites to rule over.

          • DurdyDawg

            Obviously the only news you pay attention to is that which faux spews.. Try reading and watching news that say’s otherwise than what’s in your closed minded gourd or is it that all other news sources are owned by the libs and Obama? Keep fooling yourself cup cake, stupidity looks natural on you.

          • idamag

            He has been programmed like as in cult.

          • mah101

            Are you for real? How can you be so out of touch with reality? You haven’t got a clue. Not one. Zero. Zilch.

            You know, there are a few liberals on this site – why don’t you try asking them what they think? Listen to their answers rather than try to pigeonhole them into some Fox News created talking point. You might learn how far off you are.

          • idamag

            Cult mentality is not allowed to think outside the cult.

          • Independent1

            Destroying the country?? You’ve never been able to enumerate before just how he’s destroying the country, so can I give you some suggestions??

            By governing in such a way that the stock market is up about 10,000 points during his term so I can breathe freely again over my 401K, is that what you call destroying the country?

            Is the fact that he followed through with the auto bailout and stimulus which virtually every reputable economist will tell you kept America out of the GOP’s 2nd created world-wide depression, is that what you call destroying the country?

            Is the fact that he followed through and actually got bin Laden and over the years has eliminated more than 75 critical al Qaeda operatives (which means al Qaeda would even be a much bigger threat today), is t hat what you call destroying the country?

            Is the fact that he’s governed in such a way as to be the smallest spending president since Eisenhower, which has allowed him to reduce our country’s deficit spending faster than any previous president since Truman, actually cutting it far more than in half in a little over 4 years, is that what you call destroying out country?

            Is the fact that his administration started a war on fraud in the defense and healthcare sectors, such that it has brought more criminals to justice and recovered more fraud monies than the previous 3 presidents combined, is that what you call destroying our country?

            Is the fact that he signed an executive order which cut the banks out of the student loan process which not only made it easier for HS grads to get loans, and loans at a lower interest rate, is that what you call destroying our country?

            Is the fact that although are current diplomatic relations are strained somewhat they are still light years better than during the 8 years when Bush had the entire world hating America, is that what you call destroying our country?

            I could go on, but have I hit one of your pet peaves with Obama??

            Before I close, let me tell you what I think is destroying the country: its 24/7 right wing liesand distortions about what Obama is doing, including contrived conspiracy theories and fake scandals that the totally corrupt GOP won’t stop airing to the country that are destroying America. It’s 24/7 negative broadcasts from the likes of Faux News, Rush Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity and others that turn positives into negatives at every opportunity that
            which are filling the minds of Americans with constant doubts based on lies and distortions from a political party that has no ideas and not answers for the problems we face because all they no how to do is pander to their rich donors and cronies instead of working to do what’s best for the people who voted them into office THAT’S WHAT’S DESTROYING AMERICA!!!!!!

        • DurdyDawg

          Even worse.. An idiot with a weapon.. The right to vote ‘R ‘ regardless of the lies and BS of it’s party. This ‘idiot’ my friend is typical of misinformed stupidity. He scorns the libs .. trying Convince himself and others of his mental capacity that he dems are what’s wrong with this nation and electing a con will immediately make everything smell rosy.. As to past sins of this Gopolio? Pay no attention to the corruption if your a true patriot.

  • Patricia Robertson

    Whatever is going to happen is not going to be good for the republicans and it will be their fault. They planted seeds that night when they are got together to take the president down for no reason except that he dared to run for president because he was black and won. They made the decisions to work against him, make him a one term president anyway they could illegally, impeach him, resign lie on him, anything to get out of the white house, not have work, so now it is come to sue him. The president has taken all this with dignity not treating them they he has been treated yet they have played even dirtier but karma has a way of doing payback. All those who made the pledge that night have been falling like a house of cards and the president have not had lift a finger or utter a hateful, racist word.

  • Fairplay4

    Speaker Boehner frequently refers to the will of the American people as though the right wing comprises the total population of the USA. The American people include the poor, the jobless, left wingers, centrists, the sick, and the disabled. Does he really claim to speak for all segments of our population? I think not.

    • latebloomingrandma

      Because of gerrymandering districts, Republicans won more seats in the House, despite a total of a million votes less than Democrats won. That’s not how this is supposed to work. Besides, it would be wise for Boehner and the Republicans to remember that the office of the Presidency is the one in which all Americans can vote for and are invested in. . And Obama won twice by a comfortable amount. THAT is “we the people”.

  • edwardw69

    The President should announce the immediate implementation of the Small Business mandate, and announce that he is doing so because the Republicans are demanding it.

  • Dinho Salas

    Boehner’ decision will only cost unnecessary expenditure of people’s money, and will cause that we the people of the United States will not vote Republican in the next election, we will vote Democrat.

    • DurdyDawg

      The dems’ only failure is believing that a presidential win is all it takes to insure a sense of normality in such a screwed-up political system while passing off the cogs and wheels that can deter a president from doing his/her duty because of their stifling nature..We need to use as much determination in voting mid-terms as we do in the big one otherwise the opposition will continue to suppress progress with lies, rumors, petty accusations and slipshod governing.

  • nana4gj

    Our system of government was never designed to work the way John Boehner and Company are working it, either. If his law suit is a political dud, he is the Political Dud Master., this new bit of stupidity and waste of time and money, being just the latest political dud of many.

    So attempts to sabotage the ACA while under committee didn’t work; 52 attempts to repeal it have not worked; Supreme Court hearings did not do the trick; and now, a personal law suit against the President of the US for doing what would make implementation of one mandate better for employers.

    We really need to ask the real question and that is Why would a political party in America be so obsessed and so intent on preventing Americans from having funded healthcare access?

    I am so sick and tired of hearing them bloviate over every thing that happens in this huge country that they think can be exploited for their political gain when all they accomplish is a lot of noise and making complete fools of themselves, while proving how totally incompetent is their value system, their thought process, and their ability to legislate and to participate in government.

  • Carol Jeanneret

    This House of Representatives are about the most useless bunch of moochers! They have the nerve to sue our President for not acting fast enough…..REALLY!!! I think the President and the American citizens should sue this entire congressional body for taking our money that was paid to them for work they were suppose to do….AND THEY DID NOT WORK!!! Not for one minute could any citizen in this country expect an employer to pay us our wages when we rarely showed up for work, constantly created gridlock in the work place and showed little…IF ANY….respect for our boss!! Americans should demand a change in the way these slackers get paid……1. No work…no pay 2. Americans will vote on any and all pay raises and the amount of any pay raise. 3. Since these jerks are so concerned about all of us “entitled” citizens…..all of us so called “entitled”: citizens should vote on any and all benefits these slackers get! Their pensions should be raided like they want to do to us, their health insurance for nothing would be gone…let them pay like we have to and NO MORE FREE Rides on any government equipment. etc. COM ON “FAT CATS”…’s time to pay up…..your free ride on our tax dollar should be over… is time to answer to your REAL BOSSES….the American public that put you in office……not the wealth Koch Brothers and other corporations and lobbyists that you only want to cater to!!!

  • Melinda Killie

    I think Obama said it best the other day in Texas. HE (Obama) is DOING HIS job… Boo Hoo Boehner and they (other procrastinating, seditionist, traitor republicans) must be the “Other Guys.”

  • docb

    The suit has no ‘Standing’ ! The congress’s little nerdowells can not prove harm when they voted for the delay themselves and wasted tax payer $$$ trying to repeal this 53 times.

  • herchato

    The GOP strategy is to figure out how to get fewer votes and still win elections but so far I haven’t seen any republicans smart enough to pull that off.

  • Pamby50

    I was reading in the paper that they think this lawsuit is a stunt. Yes I am talking about the Commercial Appeal which is a conservative paper. Then you read the comments section on the editorial page and you know the loony right is alive and well. Their hatred for the president is prevalent. But a long time friend of ours, who is a republican, has finally said enough.

    • idamag

      However, we are paying these whackos big bucks for their stunts.

  • rustacus21

    … many may wonder exactly what is wrong w/John Boehner, but suffice it to say dude is Republican & therefore, the beginning of his problems are there! Having to do more improvising than a QB w/his 3rd string line on the field, he’s constantly running between reality (in dealing w/Obama) & absolute mad science fiction (T-baggers & his more… ‘normal’ conservative confederates), where the world of make believe is all that’s ‘real’ to conservatives of their ilk. No matter. But we’d better figure “US” out & forget about clowns like they & the scandal clan. They understand this is the 40th anniversary of the Nixon resignation & want nothing better than to keep the headlines full of non-sense, so we don’t get a chance to speculate on how far Republicans have NOT come, in growing, maturing from Nixon’s crimes & criminal retribution spree that got him kicked out of the White House. Why the media isn’t working on commentary of this type is pretty obvious, but here, there’s no excuse. But I plan to put up several posts between now & the day of the event 40 years ago & why it’s still important to remember why corruption then, before & now is no less corrosive on our political system – i.e., the influence of big money. Republicans act as if Nixon were some sort of role model. We have to show them, especially this upcoming election, how wrong they are… & how like him, it’s time for them to go home, after doing NOTHING for the American citizen, voter & tax payer, w/the money they earn, while giving NO SERVICE as their elective offices (ALL) require…

  • 1standlastword


    This just demonstrates to me that when you’re always wrong…hopelessly wrong… you can’t even do bad right (Bonehead) LOL!!!

    And, I the word going around is now Hillary and some progressives think the employer mandate is a bad idea and shouldn’t be part of ACA…

    Oy Vey!!!!

  • idamag

    Anyone who has known an alcoholic,personally, and most people have, can recognize poor John Boehner for what he is.

    • latebloomingrandma

      I wonder how his disposition would be if he quit smoking. That would probably be his self destruction.
      The man seems to have serious anger issues.

      • idamag

        Also fear. He is acting very cowardly, probably because he hears the click of the hammer behind his ear.

  • Rick Eger


  • Helen

    John Boehner is a waste of time period!

  • Billie

    Why don’t we sue him for not doing his job? Cause we don’t have any money?

  • Chinese authorities have indicted British and American investigators hired by GlaxoSmithKline on charges of illegally obtaining and selling private information, state media reported on Monday, as the Briton blamed the pharmaceutical company for misleading and using him.

    Prosecutors in Shanghai filed charges of illegally obtaining and selling private information against British investigator Peter Humphrey and his wife Yingzeng Yu, a US citizen, at the city’s No. 1 intermediate people’s court, the official Xinhua News Agency said. The move paves the way for the couple to stand trial.

  • toptwome

    What an ass John Boehner is. After over 55 times of voting against the Affordable Care Act he now says it was not put in place fast enough. I really have nothing but disgust for these do nothing republicans. They are idiots and are showing that with everything they do.