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Thursday, October 27, 2016

I admit it. I underestimated Mitt Romney.

Knowing that Republican businessmen Herbert Hoover and George W. Bush were the worst presidents of the last century, I was pleased when the personification of America’s hubristic financial sector shambled through the last year as the worst national candidate I’d seen in my lifetime.

Mitt mocked his base, alienated allies and picked a running mate who was only famous for his desire to turn Medicare into an episode of Extreme Couponing. His policies grew increasingly extreme and repulsive, and his convention was an inside joke that nobody but people who would vote for him no matter what got.

Then, after confirming every bias America has against bumbling plutocrats for months and months, Mitt Romney’s first debate performance was remarkable in its disregard for facts.

In a fury of words and indignation, Romney used lies and half-truths to present himself as a moderate father figure who understands the economy and cares about families.

It was a strategic wonder. In one night, the one-term governor of Massachusetts turned a year of seeming unelectability into an asset, casting doubt not only on the president, but the media that had reported his constant blunders as… constant blunders.

Romney shot up in the polls, making the race a dead heat nationally, though the president still maintains slim leads in his “firewall states” Ohio, Iowa and Nevada.

But then in the second debate, America got a more honest glance at Mitt Romney.

After he blamed gun violence on single mothers, and after he said he’d actively sought “binders full of women” that were actually brought to him unrequested, Romney said something about women so remarkably out of touch and archaic that I was shocked my TV didn’t suddenly turn black and white:

“I recognized that if you’re going to have women in the workforce that sometimes you need to be more flexible.”



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  • nobsartist

    republiCONs –
    sold weapons to Iran
    sold weapons to Iraq
    sold nukes to israel
    gave the chinese a top secret spy plane
    lied us into 2 wars
    trampled the Constitution
    trampled the Geneva Convention
    made it legal to spy on Americans with no warrant
    created 9/11
    collapsed the economy
    and now, want to elect a president in business with the red chinese army

    dont forget, idiots elected the AWOL coke head that lied us into 2 wars, was convicted of war crimes and tried to bankrupt our country, twice.

    • TZToronto

      You know their philosophy: Anyone but a tax-and-spend Democrat! The fact that Republicans usually balloon deficits and increase the national debt and then blame Democrats for trying to clean up the financial mess just shows how out of touch with reality–and intelligence–they are. The big problem is that they won’t even listen to rational arguments because those rational arguments are made by [tax-and-spend implied] Democrats. Another problem is that Republicans seem to love wars. They like to see America push the little guys around by bombing them and killing them. It shows what a great nation we are, even though the U.S. is seen as the world’s bully. No matter that Republicans’ sons (and daughters) get killed in these wars, too. They’re heroes! . . . But they’re gone, folks. They’re gone. There’s an intellectual disconnect here. Wars cost money, but Republicans who pursue them demand tax cuts. How does that work? The bills come due eventually.

  • citzen_too

    “if” it’s about time someone called him on this tiny little word. it sums up mitt’s whole world, white men should run the world, the little woman must stay at home, and all minorities should know their place. if you want our country to rewind to the 1950’s, vote for this one. if you want to continue forward into the future, vote the intelligent way.

  • jcbsdriver

    I am a white republican woman who has already voted for Obama. I was born and raised in Massachusetts, lived there until my mid 30’s before my family moved for my husband’s employment. Romney was not a good Govenor for Mass. and he will not be a good president for the country.

    Women need to realize that Romney is not on your side. Never has been. He will say ANYHTING to get elected and then go by his own agenda once in office. He did it in Mass. and he will do it again.

    • I agree with you 100%. I am glad to hear from someone who knew Romney as a Governor. Thanks.

      • geoelb

        Obama is leading Romney in Mass. 57 to 49

        • That’s 106…

          • WhutHeSaid

            The last Rasmussen poll (known to slant somewhat Republican) that I saw has Obama leading Romney 57-42%. That’s a 15 point lead with 1% undecided.

          • at least yours adds up to less than 100% lol

          • Those are the other 6% of illegal immigrants that Romney wants self-deportation for. You know, because Mexicans.

            He’s such a douchebag.

        • This is the true tell tale issue. He can’t win the state that elected him Gov. Not to mention your nunmbers don’t add up, that’s actually 106%

        • nobsartist

          Hate to break the news to you but Obama is up by 20 in Mass.

    • I totally agree with you about Romney. I’m also glad to hear from someone who lived in his state and knows his record.

    • neece00

      Thanks for your insight

    • Why is your pic outline male?

      • jcbsdriver

        Not sure. I don’t remember picking an outline. If I did, it was in error.

    • Time to start telling the truth about the liberal bullllshit in this country: MANHOOD101. COM

  • bcarreiro

    Politically Correct.

  • TheOldNorthChurch

    Mitt Romney continues to out-poll every winning presidential challenger since 1968.

    The latest Gallup daily tracking poll of likely voters has Mr. Romney leading Barack Obama by seven points, 52% to 45%. Mr. Romney’s total is greater than Richard Nixon’s 44% at this point in the race in 1968, Jimmy Carter’s 49% in 1976, Ronald Reagan’s hard to believe 39% in 1980 (Carter was ahead with 45%), George H. W. Bush’s 50% in 1988, and Bill Clinton’s 40% in 1992. In 2000 and 2008 George W. Bush and Barack Obama both tracked at a within-error 51%.

    The Gallup numbers have come under criticism from Obama supporters for their supposed inaccuracy, but the oldest established polling organization has done well in predicting the last three elections. In 2000, the final Gallup likely voter poll showed a neck and neck race, 47/45, which turned out to be a 50/50 outcome. In 2004 Gallup had the Bush/Kerry race at 49/47 and the result was 50/48. And in 2008 Gallup’s final likely voter poll had Mr. Obama at 53% which was right on the money.

    Bye Bye Barry

    • WhutHeSaid

      You must have forgotten to wake up before posting this morning.

      In Ohio — a MUST win for Romney — the early voting has Obama leading by double digits. This is Multiple Mitt’s and Lyin’ Ryan’s only path to victory. It’s a similar story in other swing states, but Ohio is the key for Republicans. If they lose Ohio (and they are so far — big time), it’s game over.

      I suppose we get to hear you bigoted neanderthals squealing for another 4 years.

      • TheOldNorthChurch

        Early voting doesn’t decide an election. Romney has Florida, Virginia and North Carolina in the tank. Wins in Co, NH and Wisconsin make it 271. Interesting that Romney will carry the Popular Vote no matter what. With a very real possibility that the Electoral College will be a Tie. Then the House Votes.

        • neece00

          and the polls don’t decide an election

          • TheOldNorthChurch

            Very True

        • WhutHeSaid

          No, early voting doesn’t decide an election, but it does give an indication of what’s ACTUALLY happening on the ground vs. polls alone.

          Romney does NOT have Virgina or Florida sewn up, although I’ll give you North Carolina. Women and Latinos will be critical in this election, and it’s clear that Romney and the GOP have no respect for either group except when they are lying. I don’t believe that lies will be accepted as readily as Republicans hope. Republicans are desperate, no doubt about it, and for good reason: America does not want what the GOP is selling. When you have to lie about all of your positions it clearly shows that even you understand that your positions are not acceptable.

          • TheOldNorthChurch

            Women are polling 50-50. Obama is pulling out of Florida and concentrating on his last chance Ohio.

          • WhutHeSaid

            That’s ‘dancing horsey’ crap. Fox News started that rumor about Obama pulling out of Florida, Virginia and North Carolina, but like just about everything else coming out of Fox News, well — let’s just say it doesn’t smell pretty.

            Obama has no reason to pull out of any race where he is competitive, and in Florida and Virginia there just aren’t enough bigots to overtake those who actually pay attention to the issues. This goes double for Romney’s ‘whirling weather-vane’ positions in other battleground states. Since Romney is now clearly hugging Obama’s positions (knowing full well they are more popular than the GOP’s), we may as well cut out the cardboard phoney middleman (Multiple Choice Mitt) and vote for the real thing.

            Perhaps you and I differ on this point, but I don’t believe that there are enough stupid people or Tea-Bigots (although I may be redundant here) to fall for Romney’s obvious lies and convenient flip-flops to win him the election. I know how it infuriates you to see a black man in the White House, but methinks you’ll just have to deal with it for another 4 years.

          • TheOldNorthChurch

            You and I do differ 0n many points, but Obama is also running out of cash on hand. I am getting many panic e-mails from his big donors looking for quick cash. This is where I picked up the mews that he was pulling out of Florida.

            It maybe Multiple Choice Mitt, but it is No Choice Obama.

            Your last sentence is ignorant and maybe just a reflection of your frustration with this President. If not shame on you.

          • WhutHeSaid

            Why would ‘big donors’ send YOU emails looking for quick cash? If they are big donors one would presume that THEY are the ones with the cash. That just doesn’t make any sense. Like most things that don’t make sense, it’s most likely just another lie.

            Oh, about that last bit: If the Tea-Bigot shoe fits, then I guess you must wear it, not me.

          • TheOldNorthChurch

            You don’t get Donor emails? Do you not put your money where your month is? Or are you just talk?

            Your feet must be very tight.

          • WhutHeSaid

            Again I ask: Why would ‘big donors’ send emails to YOU asking for money? Aren’t ‘big donors’ the ones who HAVE the money?

          • TheOldNorthChurch

            Actual big liberal wage earners don’t tend to donate money. Many of them serve as fund raisers.

          • WhutHeSaid

            So who are these ‘big donors’ sending you all these emails pleading for your money? Please feel free to cut & paste an example here.

          • TheOldNorthChurch


            The Democratic Party urgently needs your help.

            We’re just weeks from the most important election in a generation and every single thing Democrats like you and I spent a lifetime fighting for is on the line.

            Republican Super PACs are pounding President Obama and Democratic candidates with millions of dollars of vicious attack ads. And, they could tip the balance of the election for Tea Party extremists.

            That would be a disaster for America and we can’t let it happen. We must close the funding gap.

            That’s why I’m urging you donate $3 or more to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) today.

            This election presents a clear choice:

            Either we can continue with another two years of Republicans in Congress blocking President Obama’s agenda – or we can elect a Democratic majority that will stand with the President to make real progress in his second term.

            Democrats will protect Medicare and strengthen environmental protections. Health care reform will be fully implemented and critical investments will be made in jobs and education to strengthen the middle-class.

            It’s up to you and me to make this happen.

            Please rush an emergency contribution right away while there’s still time.

            President Obama needs a new Democratic Majority to get America moving again.

            Thank you,


          • WhutHeSaid

            Hee-hee! So an automated email — similar to thousands that have gone out every day — constitutes an urgent plea from a ‘big donor’? I must say that it can’t be all that urgent, since she only asked for $3. I can understand, however, how even a $3 contribution could cause a greedy deadbeat’s hemorrhoids to flare up, so I guess you have a point.

          • nobsartist

            Obama has more cash than willard the rat.

            willard the rat is cornered and cooked.

          • TheOldNorthChurch

            Why did he borrow $15M from his friends at bank of America this week?

          • I appreciate your thinking, writing, and style. I’d love to be able to express myself like you have here. Keep it up. Thank you.

          • I have been following your conversations with others (TheOldNorthChurch) and I have to tell you that I appreciate your thinking, writing and style. I envy your ease with the use of vocabulary. I would love to be able to write like have here. Thank you.

          • WhutHeSaid

            That’s very kind of you – thank you. Please feel free to express your views here and don’t be afraid to tell it like it is.

          • WhutHeSaid

            Here — you may like this:

            “This latest Quinnipiac/CBS survey shows a wide gender gap as President Obama leads 55 – 40 percent among women while Gov. Romney leads 51 – 44 percent among men. Whites back the Republican 51 – 44 percent while blacks go Democratic 91 – 5 percent. Voters with college degrees are divided with 49 percent for Romney and 47 percent for Obama. Voters without degrees back Obama 52 – 43 percent.”

            “The good news for Gov. Romney is that he has sliced President Obama’s lead in Ohio in half in the last month,” said Peter A. Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute. “The bad news for Romney, and the good news for Obama, is that no Republican has ever won the White House without carrying Ohio and the challenger is running out of time to make up the remaining difference.”

          • TheOldNorthChurch

            Did you know that this survey used a 9% turnout gap for Democrat voters? That is even larger than in 2008 and it is not happening.

          • WhutHeSaid

            See? I KNEW you would like it!


          • nobsartist

            thats not as wide as the gap between your ears.

          • Did you read where older white men that voted for McClain in 2008 are now saying that they will be voting for Obama not Romney this time? Check it out for yourself.

          • nobsartist

            churchy has to wait to hear it from jesus.

          • I see you still are not doing your own research. Do that and see if you still think Romney is going to win? Who wants a man as president who while he is claiming to love the USA so much yet at the same time is sending 200 American jobs to China at the end of December. Who also wouldn’t allow the plant he and his partners are closing fly the American flag at that plant while American workers trained the Chinese to do their job? The American workers had to train the Chinese else they would be fired and not receive servance pay. Women are not 50/50 f or the candidates, since I am a woman I know better than any poll does how they are leaning. Obama is not pulling out of Florida for your information. Do your own research. I do.

          • TheOldNorthChurch

            Let me ask you a question, Do you own an Ipad, Iphone, any Apple product? Do you use CFLs? Then you are sending jobs to China by the thousands.

        • nobsartist

          Sorry pal, but willard the rat may tie in virginia, but that is doubtful.
          President Obama is leading by double digits everywhere but N.C.

          willard the rat will be either in jail or forgotten one year from now.

          By the way, do you like the fact that the John Birch Society funds and runs your party?

          A simple yes or no answer will do.

          • TheOldNorthChurch

            The JBS is the American Independent Party. You need to do more studying. Or did you graduate from Harvard?

          • Cairndance

            Romney graduated from Harvard too, or did you miss that ?

          • TheOldNorthChurch

            Difference was his BA was from Brigham Young. They don’t need to teach remedial mathematics there as they know that children coming out of High School in Utah actually learned something. His Masters in Business was from Harvard.

          • nobsartist

            By the way, how are those fairy tales working out for you churchy?
            Talk to jesus lately?

          • nobsartist

            Hey half wit, the JBS is a racist, anti civil rights organization rated right up there with the KKK. You should know that though considering you are no doubt a member of both.

          • TheOldNorthChurch

            JBS was ask to leave the Republican Party by Reagan. I am familiar with them and have no allegiance to them or their ideas. However you are appearing very ignorant.

            You must be a member of a radical group, right or left.

          • This reply is to your posting about getting e- mails from big Democrat donors for the Obama campaign well don’t feel rained on for I get the same thing from Republican supporters which I delete as soon as I see one, Both parties are sending out e-mails to anyone that they think will donate to their cause, though the Republicans usually only send their e-mails to the likes of the Koch brothers not people like me and you the old north church. That is because the only people the New Republican Party represents anymore is the rich and richer.not the people that elect them to represent them. I call them the New Republican Party because they are not the party of Eisenhower or even Reagan(who I disliked) they are now the party of liars, of the rich and the very far right that care nothing about their country just themselves and how they can fatten their wallets at the expense of everyone else and the Country. The GOP has changed so much and not for the better from what it once was that it really should change the name of the party, it is no longer the Grand Old Party but the party of the rich and some nut cases.

    • Unfortunately for you, Gallup polls aren’t worth the time that it took to put them in print…just like Romney’s campaign promises, they’re pure fairy tales designed only to try and win votes and mislead people.

      • TheOldNorthChurch

        They are very Democrat leaning. So this means the Big Empty has a real problem. No Jobs Obama!

        • nobsartist

          I would say that willard the rat is desperate like a cornered rat.

    • nobsartist

      keep up your racist dream for utopia, idiot.

      President Obama is up 19% NATIONWIDE and I have a funny feeling that one year from now, you half wits will have long forgotten mitt.

      • TheOldNorthChurch

        Racist, your argument matches your mentality.

        • nobsartist

          But you are a racist are you not?

          Do you like that the John Birch Society runs and finances your party?

          Answer the question, tough guy.

          • TheOldNorthChurch

            JBS has run the American Independent Party, ever since Reagan told them they were not welcome in the Republican Party.

            Just the Facts

      • Cairndance

        Ann Romney stated on “The View” that if they don’t win, they will be out of politics for good! Let’s make sure she gets her dream of just being a housewife again!
        GO OBAMA!

    • Landsende

      The polls do not include those that only have cell phones which is a large segment of the population. There is no way to know if they will vote democrat or republican so I wouldn’t take the polls to seriously. Some polls only use 100 people as a representation of the rest of the population.

      • TheOldNorthChurch

        Actually the new Gallop Model does include cell phones. What they don’t do is use a turnout model based on party affiliation.

        • Landsende

          Out of 1000 people surveyed by Gallup daily only 150 of them are cell phone users when 35% of the population uses only cell phones. The only truly reliable voter statistics are the votes cast on election day as long as there is no voter fraud.

  • dtgraham

    What disturbed me was the MSNBC focus group of uncommitted voters being asked questions after the last debate. The women in the group didn’t seem to be bothered at all by the Romney campaign’s negative approach towards women’s issues like equal pay, contraception coverage, and abortion. Part of that could be attributed to Romney simply lying, or changing his positions on the spot, during the debate–and being believed.

    What was bewildering to me though was the women dismissing Lilly Ledbetter and other women’s issues as being not all that important when directly confronted with them by a moderator. They seemed to be clearly leaning towards Romney and, keep in mind, this is an MSNBC picked group and not some phony Frank Luntz Fixed News Republican group. Go figure.

    I can only hope that this group was an oddball one and not representative.

    • Brainwashing at its best. You are correct, I noticed the same thing. In fact, I can not believe how many female neighbors feel exactly that way and are in favor of overturning Lilly Ledbetter. It is almost as if we lived in a masochist society where people love to endure pain to find an elusive nirvana.

      • Ed

        Americans have a loong history of voting AGAINST their own self interest.

    • They don’t represent this woman nor a lot of other women I know. Romney, Ryan and the Republican party have shown repeatly that they think women are 2nd class citizens and should have no say in their health care. When you have a political party that back the likes of Akin of Missouri and Joe Walsh, (don’t remember his state) then that along should tell all women that they are anti women including the women of the party. I have never trusted Romney and his flip flopping ways. A statement he made during the Republican primaries would keep me and should keep others from voting for Romney/Ryan. When asked what was his plans for the Country if elected, he replied” If you knew that you wouldn’t vote for me.” That one statement should keep both women and men from voting for him.

  • EVERY rightist I talk to does not care even a little about the many accomplishments of Barack Obama, the fact that the economy is improving, the fact unemployment is going down, that fact that the stock markets are going up (good for retirees), that fact that GDP is rising, the fact that more people now have health care. These people still incorrectly think things are getting worse. They incorrectly believe that Democrats created the current debt. Nothing shakes their beliefs–neither facts nor reality. They complain about everything, but cannot tell me what they do want. They know nothing and care nothing of the issues. This is exemplified by TheOldNorthChurch’s issue free post–he says “Bye Bye Barry”, the same thing rightists have been saying since late 2008.

    What they do have is passion. A genuine but irrational hatred of Obama and liberals. It is demonstrated by the fact that recent Gallup poll showed Romney up by 22 points over Obama in “non-Hispanic white” voters. This is exemplified by TheOldNorthChurch’s post–he says “Bye Bye Barry”, the same thing rightists have been saying since late 2008. This election is about race. And we must defeat Republicans on this issue.

    • Anyone who believes what the Gallup poll purports to show would be better off believing in the tooth fairy and the Easter Bunny. The Gallup poll has been notoriously right-wing biased for years… It’s polls are pure bunk designed only to try and sway votes.

      • nobsartist

        Thats right.

        President Obama is up 19% NATIONWIDE.

        • Once again, you’re exceeding stupid. Please feel free to stick your head in the nearest commode.

    • Ed

      If Oboma was white the election would have been over in August.

      • nobsartist

        Whats funny is he is half white but republiKKKONS are ALL wrong.

    • You are clearly astoundingly out-of-touch with reality here. That, or you simply accept Jay Carney’s ridiculous spoutings as gospel. Where is it that you see unemployment going down? And furthermore, give me ONE example of lowered unemployment rates when you include the individuals who have left the work force entirely? And you uneducated half-wits that think that obamacare is positively affecting insurance are truly off your rockers. For one, it doesn’t even affect the populace until 2014. So, you’re wrong. Secondly, all it has done so far is limit the number of providers willing to accept new Medicare patients. Third, is the current debt limit. You idiots spout off like you know the numbers, when basic arithmetic is way outside your grasp. The national debt rose $4.899 trillion during the TWO Bush terms. Obama has yet to complete a single term, and his increased the debt levels $4.939 since he took office! And these numbers are from March of this year, taken from a CBS article! And as for race, all you race-baiters are truly incompetent fools. And this doesn’t even begin to cover it. Caucasians put Obama into office. How is that race related? You have nothing better to say, clearly. Obama has NO accomplishments, all of his campaign promises have been broken, and rather than attempt to address the failing economy, he would more interested in forcing through what he would like to become his legacy, namely, obamacare. Of course, if you want to have a failure as your legacy, he has accomplished this several times over. Jimmy Carter should be paying Obama for saving him from the title of the worst president in history. Oh, and one last point. If you truly feel that polls are an accurate representation of where our country is, please de-register to vote. You’re clearly an idiot.

      • WhutHeSaid

        You must have an asbestos tongue to withstand the heat from all the whoppers you tell.

        First, unemployment AND the deficit went through the roof without any help whatever from Obama. They were both the DIRECT result of shitty Republican policies, with two unfunded wars and a cataclysmic failure of trickle-down economics almost resulting in another Great Depression — exactly what Romney-Ryan want to do all over again.

        That Obama has managed to dig out of this Republican mess in less than 4 years is actually pretty amazing. Yet you fork-tongued bigots continue to spew out your crap as if people don’t remember how we got into the mess in the first place. Americans KNOW that the economy is improving — they don’t need slobbering bigots to tell them how it is.

        When we have flat-out liars telling us that something is bad then it’s time to appreciate the truth even more. I know that it hurts you bigots terribly having a black man in the White House. Perhaps it’s because he reminds you that there are people with a different skin color than you who have achieved far more than you ever will. This conflicts with your misguided belief that white skin makes you superior, without which you would otherwise have to admit being the loser that you really are.

        Thank you for your bitter lies, because it makes me appreciate the truth more than ever.

        • I couldn’t put it better myself. You have nothing to add other than broad generalizations, and of course, your standard retort, that everyone not in favor of Obama is a racist bigot. I have no objection to anyone succeeding, frankly, color aside. It’s the failure that is so repulsive. I can only imagine what type of ridiculous defensive arguments you would come up with, had Obama been white. Personally, I honestly believe that it is individuals like yourself that perpetuate the racism in this country. Everyone else (not really, obviously there will always be some TRULY bigoted, uneducated morons out there) has moved on. People like you want to continue these race-oriented disagreements, I can only imagine, to defend an individual you truly wish was providing the hope and change he promised he would! However, until you see the truth, and recognize that he is failing you as a leader, you will most likely continue on your path of ignorance. That being said, props to your opening line, I found that to be quite humorous; “an asbestos tongue”. Nicely done.

          • WhutHeSaid

            Please allow me to respond:


            You think that I’m going to buy your tripe about bigots having ‘moved on’ with all of the nutty old Tea-Bigots out there spouting racist bullshit like some deranged parrot? Say, are you from another planet?

            ‘Kenyan’, ‘Communist’, ‘Socialist’, ‘Muslim’, etc., etc. At least SOME Republicans have enough integrity not to buy into that bigoted crap — like John McCain.

            The economic collapse engineered by the Bush administration is a FACT. That fact blows away all of the ridiculous rhetoric about deficits or unemployment being all Obama’s fault. Obama’s policies have obviously taken us back in the proper direction, but you fork-tongued liars try to lay the blame anywhere except where everyone KNOWS it belongs — the Republicans. You could argue that Obama hasn’t cleaned up the Republican mess fast enough, but you didn’t.

            Welcome to Earth.

          • Once again, you prove my point beyond a shadow of a doubt. Are you able to make a single point without racist over-tones? And the “economic collapse engineered by the Bush administration” [sic] ? I’m beginning to think that not only are you misguided, but you are truly handicapped? I could at least accept your point of view as reasonable if you were saying that the Bush policies resulted in an economic collapse! You would be wrong, but at least sound moderately sane. I can only imagine you are one of those dimbulbs who believe that 9/11 was a conspiracy of the Bush administration! Tell me you are, then I can right you off as a standard nutjob! Obama hasn’t cleaned up annything! He hasn’t resolved anything! We are further from an economic recovery now than we were in day one of the depression! Our national debt is now greater than our GDP! Bush was “unpatriotic and immoral” in the amount of debt he (stupidly, granted) ran up, but Obama has beat him out in half the time! And you say I’m forked-tongue! I have yet to identify myself as a Republican (Which, I’m not), yet you assume that anyone not pro-Obama must be! What kind of rock do you live under? Wake up and smell the cash burning! We can’t print enough money fast enough to keep up with Obama’s spending. Furthermore, only a 99% such as yourself would think it okay to steal from the individuals who have made something of themselves, have made themselves successful! You clearly are close to the bottom rung, if not on or below it, to appreciate that type of mindset! Your thought process must be something like the following: ” I don’t have lots of money, but other people do. I’m entitled to take it, since I can’t become successful on my own! ” This is the only way I can see people justifying have the top earners of the country pay more in taxes! Currently, 50% of the population does not pay ANY taxes! Are you part of that percentage, and thus are willing to take unearned monies? Or do you work for a living, and thus are unwilling to part with the money that you have rightfully earned? And I appreciate your welcome to your planet. After your initial barb, this was way below par for what I was anticipating. Get your game up, killer.

          • And one last point, John McCain is as Republican as you are. And you are clearly as intelligent as you are Republican.

          • WhutHeSaid

            What’s the matter — too much integrity for your taste?

          • Clearly, the intricacies of the English language elude you. Integrity = “firm adherence to a code of especially moral or artistic values.” Integrity would mean that John McCain called himself a Republican, and supported Republican views. Instead, he supports liberal ideas, opposing Republican ideals. As for taste, you clearly have lost all sense of yours. Your taste in representatives says all I need to know. Either way, make sure you vote. I would imagine that even Burger King will let you take a few minutes for that. (But only if you tell them you’re voting Democrat!) 😉

          • WhutHeSaid

            How very interesting: English lessons from an immigrant. Perhaps you are a British immigrant, yes? I never heard that the KKK had very good schools. Please let me know if I’m mistaken on this point.

          • WhutHeSaid

            You can right me off [sic] as somebody who doesn’t fall for bullshit. Where do YOU think that the economic collapse came from — the Depression Fairy?

            Obama was FORCED into spending money that he’d rather not to bail the US out of economic chaos caused by, er — I guess the Economic Poltergeists, according to you. I think it’s pretty interesting to look at history to find out the real truth about debt and economic expansion. Take a peek (if you dare) and find out which administrations, Republican or Democrat, actually produced the least jobs and the biggest deficits. Let me give you a hint: It’s the party that always CLAIMS to want smaller government!

            I don’t care if you are Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Independent or belong to the American Little Green Martian Party — it’s FACTS that matter, and you’re pretty short on them. Requiring Americans to pay their tax BILLS is not ‘stealing’. I fully expect that I’m FAR more successful than you, but that doesn’t stop your insolent blather. I don’t mind paying more, because I believe in America and right now America needs the help. I’ve paid far more in the past. I’m not a greedy, selfish slug like you who sucked up public benefits ALL HIS LIFE and now whines about paying his fair share. That just makes you a selfish deadbeat, not a genius.

            Now you are really beginning to sound like Rush Limbaugh on an extended pill binge, regurgitating the same tired old talking points that are either lies or fantastical delusions such as tax plans where 2 + 2 no longer equals 4. Say, are you another one of those bigoted old goats sucking up Medicare through a straw while squealing like a stuck pig over paying your bills? You know, the ones who pay the LOWEST TAXES IN 60 YEARS yet plaintively howl about how unfair their taxes are? You know, the ones who went to Congress promising ‘jobs’ jobs’ jobs’ but have done absolutely nothing to help America WHATEVER, and have in fact made it a point to attack women, minorities, the poor, hungry schoolchildren — in fact, anyone who isn’t old, wrinkled and white?

            Fess up. Why don’t you admit that you are a drooling Tea-Bigot? It’s not against the law, after all. Yet.

          • [sic] = “thus”; in full: sic erat scriptum, “thus was it written”. I can tell how terribly terribly successful you must be. Regardless, now that you have taken the time to inform me of the Depression Fairy, I know the truth! Thank you, oh wise one! You really are a joke! Obama was “forced” into spending money that we don’t have! Explain that one away, dippy! How could Obama possibly have been forced into spending money! Especially “forced” into spending money on his own failed stimulus plans? Now, I know your response will simply be that Bush started it, it’s all his fault, and all the money Obama has spent to save our country was Obama’s fault! I know, you idiots can’t help yourselves! It’s okay though, I know based on what you have told me that you are an insanely successful individual, raking in cash hand over fist, and you’re ragingly desperate to snatch it out of your own bank account, and shovel it into the bottomless gullet of the US Government! How patriotic of you! You put all of us peons to shame. And you’re so insightful! You can naturally assume, based on the most current statistics, that conservative Republicans are the bottom-feeding scum of the US, the drain on the economy, sucking up food stamps and welfare faster than the self-made billionaires like yourself can manage! I’m sure the 47% that Romney was disparaging ( that idiots like you love to tout as a real article) are ALL Republican. I, in fact, am in immigrant to the US, do not participate in welfare, nor the perpetuation of the welfare state. I am a young immigrant, who appreciates a free market economy, a capitalist economy, free of stifling regulations and taxes. Unfortunately, this is no longer what America has or stands for. Instead, incompetent trolls like yourself, stand for politically correctness, socialism, and deprivation of the drive to succeed in America, on ones own. I would imagine that this will likely go unanswered, as you are probably clocking in for your shift at Burger King. Go convince your fellow 99%’ers that Obama will save the world. Again. Just like he did the first time.

          • WhutHeSaid

            My, but you are clever. So clever, in fact, that you forgot to know what you were talking about before talking. Since I must point it out to you, it was your incorrect English that claimed you were about to ‘right me off’, prompting me to quote you appending [sic] (for reasons obvious to everyone but you). The correct phrase is ‘write you off’.

            I suppose I should forgive you for this mistake since you are now claiming to be a humble immigrant. Luckily you managed to squeak into this country before Romney had a chance to get rid of you — he doesn’t approve of immigration — that is, unless you happen to be one of those ‘dancing horsies’.

            Yet it’s fitting to point out that bigotry and racism is also an immigrant phenomenon. Racial bias was not known before the arrival of white Europeans to this country. Perhaps this is what makes you feel that you are so very clever — all evidence to the contrary, of course.

            Good luck to you my bigoted immigrant friend — you WILL need luck. If Romney doesn’t get you first, you may happen one day to apply for a job with my company. If that happens and you display any of your misguided nonsense, you can be sure to be escorted off the premises. Just the simple act of you being here means that you are already benefiting from the hard work and generosity of generations of Americans, which you clearly don’t appreciate one bit.

            Of course, given your propensity for whoppers, my guess is that you are not a recent immigrant at all (perhaps generations ago), but you are just an old, bitter, lying, bigoted coot. How novel.

          • nobsartist

            Do you like the fact that the John Birch Society runs and funds YOUR party?

            A simple yes or no answer will do.

            By the way, willard is hiding his tax returns because he is in business with the RED CHINESE ARMY.

            How do you like that?

      • nobsartist

        The debt rose 10 trillion during bushes term.

        quit lying.

        you are an idiot. willard the rat is not fit, just as none of the bush crime family are.

        I will bet that you voted for the AWOL coke head that lied us into 2 wars, was convicted of war crimes and tried to bankrupt our country, twice.

        • I will respond to “WhutHeSaid”, because he is well-written, and expresses his opinion in a thought-out, readable, and humorous manner. In spite of our obvious differences of opinion, and his purporting that the Burger King at which he works is “his company”, his arguments are well-formulated, and do not spew idiotic inaccuracies. You could learn a lot. You are retarded with a capital “F”. Piss off, you grotty duffer. Go join the eejit forums.

          • WhutHeSaid

            My goodness, so you are a wanker at that. Pity that I need to teach you proper English when I’m just another uncouth American. I suppose after you teach us Americans the Queen’s English you will school us in proper capitalism as well, yes? Splendid — we do so admire the British success.

          • I am truly not, I’m just messing with you. I am a 27 year old American, immigrant from, as you guessed accurately, many generations back. However, I have a good job, lovely wife, and great kids. I am not a recipient of any type of welfare, I pay my own health insurance, buy my own food, and pay my own mortgage. I don’t make a ton of money, but I do well enough. I have no interest in paying the obscene amount of money that the Fed determines to be fair, but I pay my taxes anyway. With all the various local, state, and federal taxes, I pay more than $0.50 of every dollar I make in taxes. This is absolutely ridiculous. And if you truly do own your own business, I would hope that you would recognize that it is people like yourself that Obama is targeting as the “Wealthy Earners”. The people like yourself who make a living, and provide jobs for others, who also pay taxes. What type of business do you run? I’m merely curious, and is it is a sole proprietorship, or an LLC?

  • vlcpolitics

    Wake up people, please, wake up! Don’t get romnesia! You don’t want a businessman running this country. They do not care about workers – they really don’t. They only care about their bottomlines and their shareholders and will fire you anytime your needs get in the way of their profits. I have first hand knowledge on that fact!

  • vlcpolitics

    oldnorthc – don’t get too happy because romney will NEVER be president.

  • The fact that Romney will repeal most of what President Obama has done is not in doubt. He has promised to do so, and so has the GOP. Not only will a Romney administration repeal Obamacare, they will restore the MEDICARE savings, DoD program cuts, eliminate all the regulations that have been put in place to minimize the probability of another Wall Street debacle and consumer abuses, and if they have a congressional majority they will roll back civil rights. The worst part, because of its long term implications, will be the appointment of ultra conservative Justices to the Supreme Court to reverse Roe V Wade and other court decisions that are abhorrent to the Tea Party.

    • grammyjill

      Question: If Romney wins, could we vote Obama back in in 2016? He wouldn’t have run his two terms.

  • wesley rasmussen

    Just what IS the cash value of an aborted fetus? People like you and me, well, we can’t put a dollar figure on that – to us it is a philosophical and ethical question.

    HOWEVER, as CEO of Bain Capital, LLC, Mitt Romney can tell you EXACTLY what it is worth in dollars and cents, since he invested $75M in Stericycle, a European company that buys medical waste, including aborted fetuses, in the United Kingdom and turns them into fertilizer. Makes one wonder, does that fertilizer go on the myriad farms around the continent there to feed those who had the abortions in the first place?


    HMS Romney for 2012? I DON’T THINK SO, TIM….

  • Mitt Romney has no plan to help the middle class, nor too create jobs. I am now retired and live on Social Security, and depend on Medicare, and I want to protect it. People 45 to 55 years has paid into the Social Security/Medicare system and it should stay as is. They have paid into this system many years and it would be unfair for them not to get the same as I am. Just think about how much you put into F.I.C.A. over the years. You put as much into F.I.C.A. as you did into your Federal Income Tax.

  • Try blaming Bush Cheney Neo-con Cohorts

    That group increased spending 90% (Obama will 8.6%)–Debt 112% (double in 8)–1400B Deficit–

    Lowest job creation since Hoover 31,000 per month to Carter 218,000–Clinton 237,000

    Let Wall Street run wild Gambling and selling toxic mortgages. Great Recession. Paul Krugman had been writing Bush since 2002 in NYT articles. He posted them in a book.

    Awesome warnings on Housing inflation and Casino Derivative Of America one on one gambling

    instead of investing in businesses

    Two uncalled for wars.

    Imperialism and Debt is what ruined Rome-Spain-Holland-England

    Bush tried hard to ruin America. Facts are undeniable.

    Blame obama. Not for economy. He inherited Hell On Earth.

  • TZToronto

    And you have facts to back up this assertion? Gallup is a large market research organization. Their polling is a loss leader, and they don’t make money by doing it. They make money by keeping their name–and their accuracy–in the media so that companies that actually pay will use them. They are definitely not simply a polling organization. If they fudge their numbers and look bad, they lose business. With that said, I cast my absentee ballot for Obama/Biden and the Democratic cast of characters in Connecticut already.

    • Jennifer_Fiche

      Gallup is currently under investigation for fraud and has unexplainable wild swings in their numbers.

    • So you think that Gallup doesn’t take money? Don’t bet on it, it is not the same company that it was years ago when it could be trusted, no polling company is completely trustworthy any more. As my parents used to say, believe only half of what you see, a 1/3 of what you hear, read or are told, and 1/10 of 1% of what polls and politicians says.

  • TZToronto

    Let’s go back to the 50s, a time that exists only in our flawed memories, Leave it to Beaver, and the Donna Reed Show.

    • grammyjill

      Fine, but I ain’t wearing the damn dress!

  • TZToronto

    OK, so now I’ve seen Gallup branded both left-leaning and right-leaning. They must be doing something right!

  • beigerorschach

    Though I understand the reasons behind why Romney is polling close to President Obama, I still find this fact extremely difficult to digest.

    When I saw the debate, The Binders full of Women bit struck me as a gaffe and finding out later that he lied didn’t surprise me much. But what irked me was the subtler more sexist comment that followed. Excerpts from the debate transcript:

    ” We’re going to have to have employers in the new economy, in the economy I’m going to bring to play, that are going to be so anxious to get good workers they’re going to be anxious to hire women. ”

    This seemed to imply that, ” Haarumph, yes, my economy will be so good that once we’re done hiring all the men, we’ll have still have plenty of spots left over for women”. He didn’t actually say anything else other that making the market from a employer centric to an employee centric one, which would in turn (maybe) get the employers to treat women equally. My interpretation might be a bit too strong. If so, please do feel free to correct me.

    I am from India, a nation which unfortunately has seen it’s fair share of political sleaze and crazies in power. But in a such a multiparty system which finds its roots from a vastly diverse cultural and ethnic society, there is rarely any significant influence that one can exert beyond ones home state (not always true). But what is frightening is the kind 0f power that such a person, and the cabal supporting him, would wield at the helm of the United States of America.
    Historically, half the nation abstains from voting. I sincerely hope that this election sees a positive turnaround in that trend.

    • nobsartist

      He isnt. willard is desperate and no longer can sleep because he is wondering what is going to happen to him when his supporters realize they flushed hundreds of millions down the toilet.

      willard is rigging the polls because willard is a rat.

  • Mitch Embry

    FYI George W Bush was not one of the presidents of the last century, the entirety of his presidency took place after 2000. That factual error is so glaring it might detract from your point.

    • Jennifer_Fiche

      Last century can refer to the last 100 years FROM TODAY, not just the last time the date had two zeros at the end.

      • He doesn’t get it, last and previous are different things.

  • i have a feeling people are over thinking about the word if

  • mumbojumbo999

    Isn’t it sexist that there would only be flexibility for women in the workplace, but presumably none for men?

    • How do you know that there is no flexibility for men in the work place? The places I have worked at treated men and women the same. They either treated everyone like dirt or treated everyone the same no matter what their sex was there was flexibility for both. The last job I worked at also checked out claims of sexual harressment (Not spelled right) by both sexes we all did the same kind of work and if a man was hurt on the job he was given light duty just like the women were. So once again how do you know that there is no flexibility for men in the work places?

      • mumbojumbo999

        OK, I guess Mitt said there would be less flexibility not necessarily none.

        “I recognized that if you’re going to have women in the workforce that sometimes you need to be more flexible.”

        The author is trying to show how Mitt is being sexist against women, but isn’t a difference in flexibility with more going to women sexist against men? The assumption here is that men don’t want to be involved in family life.

  • dljones

    LOLGOP This is for the presidency – not the LOLLYGLOP backyard stupid club advocating more of the 47% crowd. Are you proud to recognize the United Nations has been invited through the efforts of the ALCU and Sorros group to monitor voting suppression in the U. S. five swing states. Obama power, a prime example of an eight cylinder engine hitting in one—–sputter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • It took 42 years for the 19th Amendment to get ratified, It takes 3/4 of the States to ratify it before it’s added to the Constitution.
    It was finally ratified and added to the Constitution, August 18th 1920.
    It took Mississippi 106 years.

    It’s 2012,
    We have women that are Military War Veterans running for Congress.
    The Republicans don’t want to take this country forward, they want to take it backwards.

    The 19th Amendment grants women the right to vote.
    “The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.
    Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.”

  • ralphkr

    The author has forgotten an unfortunate truism: NEVER underestimate the stupidity of the US voter!!! No intelligent person earning less than $200K, with less than $2million in investments, or without guaranteed health insurance would EVER vote for a Republican (especially if they believe in Jesus Christ and his teachings) and yet, the lower income people (many of them part of the 47%) are avid Republicans.

    • nobsartist

      Nor would any with those finances and brains.

      • ralphkr

        Agreed. Anyone who has invested in the stock market and has studied history knows that in the last hundred years the market goes up with a Democratic President and down with a Republican President. That is completely counter-intuitive since the Republicans are pro-business but that is what the economy has been doing.

  • Rest assured every woman I know was greatly offended!!! Of course, we were all offended before he opened his mouth …

  • nobsartist

    willard the rat should just go home but we dont know where he lives or even what country he lives in.

  • My brother and I were raised by a single mother, and we saw the wage disparity up close and personally. We also heard all about the other discrimination she had to contend with. As a result, in the last year or so I have mentally slapped the snot out of Willard at least a dozen times. The things the entire GOP spews make me sick, and I cannot understand what would cause a woman to vote for them.

  • Rob Cunningham

    Okay, I dislike Romney, but your logic is absurd.

    If-then statements don’t imply anything at all about the “if” part of the statement. He was not implying that he didn’t believe “women in the workplace are a foregone conclusion.” That’s not how conditional statements work.

    That part of the article demonstrates your unfamiliarity with basic logical principles, and totally undermines the other, legitimate points you make.

  • Someone said in one of the posts that Ann Romney said on The View if Romney loses they will be thru with politics, don’t count on that, Anne didn’t want him to run for President and he did anyway. Remember Romney is a Mormon, a religion where the woman has to do what the husband says, there is no give and take in the decisions that Romney makes, he makes all the family decisions, Anne has no say so if he decides to run again for President in 2016. Also Anne said on that same show that her 5 boys work as Mormon missionary workers was on par with the men and women serving in the military. I already knew that Mitt and Anne Romney and their five sons didn’t have any idea what the real world is like but upon hearing her compare her sons Mormon Missionary work to military service made me so mad that I could hit her upside the head MS or No MS. The next thing was thinking “How dare she compare her sons’ missionary work to the military where men and women are facing death every day so she can make such a sickening statement.” Everytime it seems when Romney or a member of his family open their mouth and speak, it shows how little this family knows of the real world since they have never lived in the real world like 99% of us do.

  • The presidential debate last night was thrilling in a number of ways. For a start “Romney appeared cautious, especially during the early stages of the debate, but grew more assertive as the evening went on” This is because Romney was wrong footed during the second debate by Candy Crowley when he was caught lying about the President’s use of the word terrorist. At one point Romney was lamenting that “you know I have got five sons. Sometimes people come to you telling you lies repeatedly and hoping that you will believe them and the lie will become the truth”. Romney was effectively shifting blame for his lies to his sons and at the same time confessing that he had hoped that by telling lies repeatedly the voters would start to believe him and his lies s the truth. But Romney fails to realise that he cannot and could not continue lying to over three hundred million people hoping that his lies would finally sink in as the truth. Yesterday Romney kept on attacking the President for his policies in the Middle East, Iran and Syria and how they have failed in Romney’s view. When the President tried to attack him back once, he retorted that “attacking me is not how we are going to solve the problems affecting the country” So Romney delights in attacking the President on all sorts of things and embellishing lies on top of his attacks but when the president decides to attack Romney in return, Romney finds it uncomfortable. That is the kind of sly and calculating this man Romney is. Romney enjoyed attacking the President in their first debate and he scored points. He had hoped the President was going to remain docile to give leeway for Romney to attack the President while the president remains silent and doing nothing about it. But when the President started to hit back in the second debate Romney realised things could get rough and tough here, that is why he was very uncomfortable any time the president tried to make a rejoinder of Romney’s fabricated lies. Romney looked very uncomfortable throughout last night’s debate. Romney was so cautious because he did not want the moderator to correct him in his lies because he learnt from Candy Crowley that he was not going to be allowed to get away with lies even in situations with a controlled environment. Romney can lie and twist, fabricate and embellish his lies out there in campaign trails where he is not controlled by anybody. But he learnt that he wasn’t going to be let free to walk on the President with his lies and twisted fabrications of the truth. President Obama scored 51% to Romney’s 44 % in last night’s debate. The President beat Romney hands down. What had started as a dismal performance by the President ended with a big triumph by the President. Finally it looked like the President had allowed Romney to walk away with the first debate so that the whole process of debates wouldn’t have looked as a non-contest. Last night the American voters saw in President Obama a capable leader.

  • Obama should have asked Romney why he wasn’t reelected? he was such a great governor.