Norquist’s Latest Plot To Drown Government: Monthly Debt Ceiling Fights

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Norquist’s Latest Plot To Drown Government: Monthly Debt Ceiling Fights

November 28th, 2012 4:17 pm Jason Sattler

There’s two ways to look at Grover Norquist. He’s either the most powerful unelected man in the world or an amazing self-promoter who is about to be proven obsolete. Norquist obviously feels he’s the former. For nearly two decades, he’s held Republicans to a pledge to never raise taxes. Now he wants them to force the president to cede to their wishes on a monthly basis.

The President of Americans for Tax Reform is urging Republicans to use the debt ceiling to exact spending cuts or continue the Bush tax cuts for incomes over $250,000.

“The debt ceiling that Obama’s plans bump into every month or so for the next four years provides plenty of ‘leverage’ for the GOP to trade for spending cuts — as done in 2011 — or continuing the lower rates,” Norquist wrote Wednesday in The Hill.

Nearly 6 out of 10 Americans want to end the Bush tax breaks for the rich. But enough Republicans in the House and Senate have signed Norquist’s American Taxpayer Pledge that he’s certain that the negotiations on the so-called “fiscal cliff” can end without taxes going up.

After an electoral college landslide, many — including the White House — believe that the president has the leverage in negotiations. But the debt ceiling, which we will hit in February, does give Republicans a chance to make demands on the president.

When President Obama asked Speaker Boehner to raise the debt limit, Boehner reportedly said, “There is a price for everything.”

In 2011, Republicans, for the first time ever, used the debt limit to force cuts — something they never asked for in the dozens of times they raised the limit for the last three Republican presidents.

Though senators Lindsey Graham, Saxby Chambliss and other Republicans have said they would break their pledge with Norquist, the lobbyist seems unfazed. He told Slate’s Dave Weigel that he has no concerns that his pledge is about to crumble.

“I’ve talked to Lindsey Graham on the phone after some of his pronouncements, and he’s said, ‘Oh, I would need 10-1 [ratio of cuts to tax hikes], and it would have to include permanent, unalterable entitlement reform.’ I said, ‘Lindsey, if that’s what it’s going to take to get you to raise taxes, I’m not going to worry about you,” Norquist said. “You are not in danger of being offered a silver unicorn, because unicorns don’t exist.”

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Tags: Bill Clinton, fiscal cliff, Grover Norquist, president obama

ORAXX

Grover Norquist needs to be turned into a mill stone that can be hung around the neck of every politician who pays any attention to him.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Daniel-Jones/827014412 Daniel Jones

He has been and still is.

Now all we need is to make everyone pay heed to that little fact.

angryspittle

Somebody should drown this clown in a bathtub.

http://profile.yahoo.com/RGOUPZ3JYNMPBVOHLZRCRVRD6Q ivory69690

or even better drone the POS in a bath tub. that way to save money of the C-4 bomb
Melvin Chatman

I feel it’s time for the annual “Water Boarding” Games featuring Grover, John(2) and Mitch!
“Pay per View” @ $25.00 would stimulate the Economy and the DVD Sales would be the perfect Christmas Gift to the Country!

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OLT3BBICDAFJXQAHHKXXLJUCH4 Stella53

Great idea! LOL!
one_veteran

Can we add Cantor and Ryan to the Waterboard list?? Please!!!!!!
http://www.facebook.com/people/Pam-Buzbee/100000599092536 Pam Buzbee

I’d pay for this!
JSquercia

Where do I sign up
http://www.facebook.com/dominick.vila.1 Dominick Vila

Who knows, maybe that “enhanced interrogation technique” may produce some actual proposals instead of the usual BS.
jiggymama

I’m In!

charleo1

If you are eager for the next opportunity to jeopardize the world economy, because you believe the
threat will leave the President with no choice but to meet your demands, or bring hardship upon
the poor, and Middle Class. You need to be removed from office, on the grounds of being a menace to the security of the Nation, and a clear and present danger to the citizens of the United States!

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7DKWSXHQIDBW5PUAPZ2HZAYYUY Baron Cormac

The problem is this mook was never elected to any office. He is a professional gadfly whose only ambition is to destroy our government.

nobsartist

Someone should buy this jerkoff a razor and get him a real job at macdonalds or driving the weiner mobile. Something that he can sink his teeth into.

The Memo could do us all a favor by ignoring him.
doninsd

A message needs to be given to all voters : Any elected official whose actions are dictated by a single person, or entity, does not deserve to be in office. (You know, that whole of, by, and for thing.)
ryueire

This f*&ker should be eliminated with extreme prejudice. He is a traitor, an irresponsible little gnome with a huge rich lobbyist dildo up his ass vibrating all the way up to his vocal cords.

It may be time for a fundamental revolution against corporate interests being allowed to determine the quality of life for the regular citizens of America.

http://www.facebook.com/dominick.vila.1 Dominick Vila

Where was Norquist when Congress raised the national debt ceiling 18 times when Reagan was in office, and 19 times when Bush was in office? Is he aware of the fact that the national debt TRIPLED when Reagan was in office, and doubled when W was in office. The latter is amazing when you consider that the cost of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars was not included in the Federal budget – and was not added to the debt – and that the cost of the TARP (bank bailout), which was signed by W on 10/3/08, is blamed on Obama because FY09 started on 10/1/08. Mr. Norquist may be able to convince brain dead Tea Party advocates, I doubt he will make too much headway with the 53% of Americans that forego siestas and don’t suffer from amnesia.

jiggymama

HANG HIM HIGH!!!

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7DKWSXHQIDBW5PUAPZ2HZAYYUY Baron Cormac

I am personally hoping for his obsolescence.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Adam-Selene/1195594590 Adam Selene

President Obama needs to send some Republicans down to Gitmo for “enhanced negotiations.”
bacalove

Most people now are on to Norquist and his bad policies for Americas. Dems & GOP who know we must have more Revenue, should just stand steadfast and ignore the whining from Norquist; eventually, he will get over it as the world moves on to better things.
Michael Kollmorgen

Flush em down a toilet feet first so he can smell his own crap on the way down. Coming to think of it, might not be a bad idea to do that to most of these Republicans as well.
http://www.facebook.com/dominick.vila.1 Dominick Vila

Ordinarily, I would sy ignore this idiot, but when someone advocates debt ceiling fights, that are bound to have the same results as the debt ceiling fight last year, which resulted in Moody lowering our credit rating, the only conclusion we can reach is that we are dealing with an enemy of the United States that belongs behind bars.

BDD1951

Thank you Dom. You are exactly right. How was it that he gained so much control over member of congress?

neece00

That is my question, where did this little worm get so much power?

one_veteran

Execution is allowed in the Constitution for Treasion! Can we?? Please!!!

http://profile.yahoo.com/RGOUPZ3JYNMPBVOHLZRCRVRD6Q ivory69690

There’s two ways to look at Grover Norquist. He’s either the most powerful unelected man in the world or an amazing self-promoter who is about to be proven obsolete.//// and its 9mm time for him eather that or drone his worthless butt
http://profile.yahoo.com/RGOUPZ3JYNMPBVOHLZRCRVRD6Q ivory69690

never raise taxes space brain ? ok and you pay should never get a raise eather then right ?
http://profile.yahoo.com/RGOUPZ3JYNMPBVOHLZRCRVRD6Q ivory69690

The President of Americans for Tax Reform is urging Republicans to use the debt ceiling to exact spending cuts or continue the Bush tax cuts for incomes over $250,000.//// YAAAA YAAAA do that you GOP ding dongs and then next election the ppl. will vote you out of office. the more GOP ding dongs out of office the faster the country can move forward
WhutHeSaid

Progressives should be thankful for Grover Norquist. He has become the proverbial noose that the GOP will eventually discard or hang themselves with. The impending sequester (fiscal cliff) will force the Republican Party to prove their real allegiance under the national spotlight, and woe to those who continue to show contempt for the will of the American People when the next round of elections come around.
http://profile.yahoo.com/RGOUPZ3JYNMPBVOHLZRCRVRD6Q ivory69690

The debt ceiling that Obama’s plans bump into every month or so for the next four years provides plenty of ‘leverage’ for the GOP to trade for spending cuts — as done in 2011 — or continuing the lower rates,” Norquist wrote Wednesday in The Hill.//// for him and or any GOP ding dong that holds its own country hostage is sad way of showing how much the ppl. and the country means to them . at some time the ppl. will see all the light of the dark side the GOP ding dongs wants to take the country down . all but the 2% of the greedy bastards . whats so hard to see ppl. ? how many of you think you are in the 2 % ? do you think if you vote for the GOP ding dongs that makes you one of the 2%? it only makes you a fool . and to your self even more . then you are your own fool ans just the door mat for the 2% greedy bastards 2% that uses you to wipe the crap off their feet . and even funnyer is after the 2 % walk all over the 98 % you yourselfs are the crap thy are wipeing off there feet . now your being 2 things for the 2 % 1 the mat 2 the crap thy wipe off on your selfs

CPANewYork

I can’t figure out what this illiterate scribble is supposed to be saying.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OLT3BBICDAFJXQAHHKXXLJUCH4 Stella53

Of course you can’t! That’s the problem. You don’t agree with it, so therefore it becomes “illiterate scribble” to you. Point blank, if you voted for Romney and you’re not the 2% then you were willing to vote away your own interest just to vote against Obama.

CPANewYork

The scribble is illiterate and your reply is asinine. I voted for Obama.

http://profile.yahoo.com/RGOUPZ3JYNMPBVOHLZRCRVRD6Q ivory69690

one has to wonder just how much the greedy bartards 2% are paying rover their dog grover Norquist to do what he,s doing ? ill bet he has bigger and more off shore accounts then the ANTI-CHRIST ROMNEY HAS
CPANewYork

Bad times always bring out anomalies like Norquist, who claim more authority than they have. In the Thirties, we had Father Coughlin, basically a demagogue who eventually destroyed himself.

Today, we have this clown Norquist, also a demagogue, who arrogates to himself some kind of a pledge.

Any such pledge is meaningless to anyone but Norquist and the fool who made the pledge.
http://profile.yahoo.com/RGOUPZ3JYNMPBVOHLZRCRVRD6Q ivory69690

After an electoral college landslide, many — including the White House — believe that the president has the leverage in negotiations. But the debt ceiling, which we will hit in February, does give Republicans a chance to make demands on the president.

When President Obama asked Speaker Boehner to raise the debt limit, Boehner reportedly said, “There is a price for everything.”/// and thats where the Pres. has to make his stand . as to what he ran for in the election he won . and if things go bad then its the GOP ding dongs fault . thy seem not to care about anything and thy alreadyu let the country lose it high standards once . so what make you think thy wont do it again ? thy will and if the Pres. stands strong on what he ran on and what the ppl. wanted . then its the GOPding dongs that will be at fault . and thy already shown that thy dont care . when the ppl. see this (AGAIN) MAYBE THY WILL WAKE UP . and know that thy are not in the 2 %. strange how 98% of the country are in the same ball park . and still the 2% such a small number compaired to 98% seems to be getting their way too muich of the time . come on 98% have some pride and dont let 2% beat the 98%

CPANewYork

Obama must tell Boehner: “No deals. This is too important for sleazy politics as usual.”

CPANewYork

The basic problem for America is the lack of money and that’s caused by our having let our industries migrate overseas.

When we wiseup and bring our manufacturing back to America, our economic problems will be well on their way to being solved.

Congress needs to act soon to correct the outsourcing of jobs and technology.

Obama is scheduled to have lunch with Romney today. I don’t like the sound of that, because I didn’t vote for Obama to give Romney and his crowd of rich scumbags any voice in our government.

BDD1951

It’s just courtesy invite. I hope the prez says “see where I will be living for the next 4 years.”

http://profile.yahoo.com/RGOUPZ3JYNMPBVOHLZRCRVRD6Q ivory69690

When President Obama asked Speaker Boehner to raise the debt limit, Boehner reportedly said, “There is a price for everything.”/// then say it wont cost anything but your job bownerhead
http://profile.yahoo.com/RGOUPZ3JYNMPBVOHLZRCRVRD6Q ivory69690

its time the country should FIRE rover grover Norquist and then send the IRS after him and check him out one knows he,s made enough money from the 2% greedy bastards to last him a few life times .
http://profile.yahoo.com/RGOUPZ3JYNMPBVOHLZRCRVRD6Q ivory69690

drone rover Norquist he is a threat to the country for sure
fredamae

The most powerful body of legislation follows the fantasies and dreams of a 12 year old boy.
Lawmakers Actions speak much louder than words…and what they don’t say while trying not to say it-says it all. ‘Nuff said.
Jim Lou

Grover just wants to grind the Congress to a stop. How much work is there going to be done?

That is similar to a request that management made to account for my time in 15 minute blocks. I ended spending 5 minutes just doing that. It didn’t take too long for management to say forget about it.
http://profile.yahoo.com/RGOUPZ3JYNMPBVOHLZRCRVRD6Q ivory69690

Norquist has never been shy about his disdain for government. He’s often joked,” I just want to shrink it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub/// its all just a joke to him and he laugh,s all the way to the bank at the ppl and the country
BDD1951

Who died and made him “GOD”?
http://profile.yahoo.com/RGOUPZ3JYNMPBVOHLZRCRVRD6Q ivory69690

Who is Grover Norquist? He’s the one screaming about Obama being a Muslim…but guess who Grover is married to? A Muslim woman!/// send him to the middle east with his wife and thy should fit right in
Del WS

Is there a list somewhere of everyone in Congress who’s signed Grover’s pledge? It’s time to make known the name of everyone who’s sold out to an arrogant money-backed nobody instead of fulfilling the pledge made to the American people when he or she took office.
http://profile.yahoo.com/ZGYX7ZNZLPF3YIFWAWS3WKFE5M RonaldS

If the USA risks the debt ceiling which could result in another lowering of the USA’s credit rating, that will accelerate the irrelevancy of the GOP. I’m afraid it may take more anquish and difficulties before many Repugs wake up by losong more seats in the 2014 elections.
http://profile.yahoo.com/ZGYX7ZNZLPF3YIFWAWS3WKFE5M RonaldS

Grover will find himself in the same trash can as the Sesame Street Grover but with no friends.
Robert Martin

I wonder how much Mr Norquist makes in a year. Is he a 1% er? Is it any wonder why he fights tax increases for the wealthy? I watched him last evening and he makes no sense to me. Methinks he is being made far too much of.
highpckts

Why is he allowed to do this?? I don’t understand why they can’t get rid of him! Isn’t there some legal way of stopping this man??
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1710087686 Bob Shipp

I am reduced to name calling: Grover Norquist is a douchebag!
Justin Napolitano

I pledge allegiance to Grover Norquist of the Divided States of America and to the notion of no taxes, for which he stands, with irresponsible government, under duress with inequity and injustice for all but the affluent.

The following is the oath Congressmen recites when taking office:

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.

No where does it state that allegiance should be given to a narrow minded, self serving person advocating irresponsible and unsustainable under-funding of the United States Federal government. The very idea that many members of congress would abdicate their responsibilities to an unelected, lobbyist suggests not only incompetent behavior but possibly collusion designed to undermine the Constitution of the United States and the financial stability of the country.

The electorate voted for their representatives to protect the Republic not the interests of a given individual or group. Any Congressman that signed the no new taxes pledge authored by Grover Norquist should be voted out of office
dslocum

Put a scruffy looking man in a suit and he’s still a scruffy looking man! Can anyone in America really be taking this jerk seriously. Please stop covering him in the news!
http://www.facebook.com/people/Pam-Buzbee/100000599092536 Pam Buzbee

i saya raise taxes 100 percent on this guy he isn’t worth having around maybe he’ll move to costa rica with the fat guy
JSquercia

The First place to CUT should be Congressional Benefits . Hell most of them are Millionaires anyway . Then enact a transaction fee on every trade on the Stock Exchange . The Brits already have such a fee and the entire EU is about to institute one
http://profile.yahoo.com/SX2SUF7OJCRRTAIWXWCTDSZMMQ james

Some Govern like old days , 112-113ht show to argue and vacation home district to see whats happening! does anyone remember Senator Manfield and Speaker Rayburn ,Oneill! the movie shows one top scene ! honorable Elajah Muhammed told “Malcolm x ) ” the TV camera is one powerful narcotic! Indeed , OIL subsidies, carrried Intrest, cayman islands ,swiss accounts. are Never a entilement ! Mandingo
sambilano

Mr.Norquist plans was OK for some years ago,but not YET.Now we are dealing with ARITHMETIC.
http://profile.yahoo.com/H2RYK7EC3VPEM7DBXCKSJAQXIA Andrew

it’s amazing….1 man has so many so called leaders of OUR country………not his country held at bay with a threat…………be men…………….or be norquist’s boy…………you choose…………….
http://profile.yahoo.com/JWPCDWWOQJAS5UTZVN5CE3MZLU PamelaT

King Norquist runs the GOP with an iron fist.
ghettoforever

I am sick of the Republicans and all of their wingnut talk.
Jack Wormer

There’s one very effective way to defeat blowhards: Voters, IGNORE THE B%^&*#DS!
jiggymama

Norquist is bad for America and should be ousted from politics and this country. Wtf gives him the right to hold AMERICA hostage? He is comitting treason, refusing to do what’s right for this country and the the people, clearly he does not have have the best interest of our country, only those of the 1%.
NORQUIST MUST BE CRUSHED!!!
jiggymama

I would pay big bucks to see that.
I’m going after his sorry pathetic ass.
jiggymama

It’s not unusual for sociopaths to gain so much power as they are masters of manipulation just like Hitler. These are very dangerous persons because they can convince weak minded people to do anything for the sake of his or her own self serving people purposes.
jiggymama

The weak minded give into him because he convinces them that they will be protected by him, intimidation goes a long way for people of his kind (scociopaths).
jiggymama

Wow! that would be a great fundraiser, I want floor seats.
http://www.facebook.com/johnny.thomas.52035 Johnny Thomas

Those guy’s conviently forget what they did and go on with out any feelings what so ever and then then return with a sharp tounge denying anything about it so what attitude .Don’t give a damn who or how many they send under as long as the get their pockets lined and George W and our movie star Mr Reagan did raise the ceiling debt more than a dozen time’ each that alone passes the bill to the working people not them and most of that finger pointing was on the wrong date taking over to the republican side instead of Obama .They so set on making Obama an outsider from a country and his religion is supposed to be of a faith that murders people and downs God as we know him that they have no insight at all .I can’t spell it but Prespaterian is as American as Apple pie or real french frie’s and how long has Hawaii been a state I for get .All the bad name calling in the world wouldn’t make it right for the lie’s ,finger pointing alone with levies ,lobby’s and bill signing against the working they should be impeached .The make the Christian name bad the way use it so often and I have clergy that claim if your not a republican then you can’t be a Christian imagine that bull .I just wonder what Jesus thinks of all this you know some times they don’t get for given .
http://www.facebook.com/zenda.watford Zenda Watford

Time for you to go ,why would anyone listen to a lobbyist ?
http://twitter.com/LostAnarchist S-3

I welcome violent revolution and anrachy against him and the scum (including the voters) who follow him and think raising taxes and making cuts in their shitwhen deserved and necessary, is bad.

They’re the ones who deserve to be poor, not us hard-working folk who know better. We deserve to live, survive, and run this bitch, not them.
http://twitter.com/LostAnarchist S-3

@Melvin Chatman:
Sign me up – these fuckers need to die, but I prefer shooting them IMHO.

lana ward

You need to shoot that fucker, traitor Obama?

http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-Myers/100001512942781 Jim Myers

Replying to lana ward & S-3 -

Do you really need to to write filth? I told a Democrat on another story line that I liked his ideas, but that I found his prose to be disgusting.

I am not amused by your filthy tirades either.

lana ward

I’m just replying to one of your left loons. He said he would like to shoot all the fucking Republicans, so tell him he writes filth!!
lana ward

Have you seen any of Fern Woodforks’ comments? Your PC would blow up!!!!

http://profile.yahoo.com/QZOLTTTPLTLGELEYLKM7HUJPSU Davekzy1

Its the republican agenda to crash our economy. Its part of a darker agenda.
doghouse1

The Republicans should know they can’t serve two masters, Norquest and their constituents. They need to make their choice, assuming they realize it’s their constituents.
anyasnote

Why do they pay attention to a man who is not elected to any position and it DOESN’T MATTER??? He is just a lobbyist making money of STUPID REPUBLICANS.
Some are up for re elections so they say they will ditch the pledge – Yeah right. NO, they will NOT. For them it’s all about keeping their jobs and the perks that come with it.
With this last election WE SHOULD HAVE VOTED ALL OF THEM OUT.
He should be IRRELEVANT.
oldnick2

Although I am normally not in favor of running a deficit, I am opposed to a constitutional amendment to balance the budget because it would limit Congressional flexibility to function. There are times when it is very necessary to run a deficit, such as during a recession. I am just throwing this comment in, in conjunction with my comment below.

I am, also, adamantly opposed to the establishment of debt limits for the same reason. We should abolish the debt limit and be done with it. Think about it. How much time and money have we spent over the years fighting this battle over and over? I tell you this. The whole debt limit affair is nothing less than an exercise in masturbation. Our Congress should not have to be treated like a bunch of school kids. They should do their jobs. That’s what we pay them to do. Eliminate the debt limit and begin managing our nation’s money in a responsible manner, as if you are adults.
Sierra111

Norquist doesn’t care about our country – he only cares about his own power.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Genevieve-Vanasco/1113502687 Genevieve Vanasco

The American people hate this man. Most hope he slips into that bath tub along with everyone that sign his pledge.
http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.clark.7370 Benjamin Clark

Obama doesn’t need Congress’ permission to raise the debt ceiling, the Constitution gives him the power to do so unilaterally. Last time around he chose not to use that option, as he still believed Republicans might deal with him in good faith. This time around he won’t hesitate, rendering Norquist’s threat empty.

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