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Obama Plays Offense Against ‘Severely Conservative’ Romney At Hofstra Debate

Obama Plays Offense Against ‘Severely Conservative’ Romney At Hofstra Debate

President Obama dominated the second presidential debate at Hofstra University in Uniondale, Long Island, on Tuesday night by accomplishing what he failed to do in the first: He prevented Romney from pivoting to the center. If “Moderate Mitt” won the debate in Denver, then Obama was determined to make sure that the “severely conservative” version of his opponent would be on display at  the Hofstra “town meeting.”

No longer subdued or passive, Obama forcefully dictated the terms of the debate. Each time that Romney attempted to walk back one of the right-wing stances he had adopted during the Republican primaries, the president directly called him out for inconsistency.

When Romney tried a softer tone on immigration, Obama pointed out that he had spent the primaries promising to veto the DREAM Act, promote “self-deportation,” and adopt Arizona’s controversial “show me your papers” law as a model for the nation. When Romney pushed back on this last point, Obama noted correctly that Kansas Republican Kris Kobach — the law’s author — is a top Romney advisor on immigration. “That’s his policy,” Obama said. “And it’s a bad policy.”

Similarly, when the former governor made his pitch to female voters (using an odd anecdote about the “binders full of women” he used to staff his Massachusetts cabinet,) Obama reminded the audience that “when Governor Romney’s campaign was asked about the Lilly Ledbetter bill, whether he supported it? He said, ‘I’ll get back to you.’ And that’s not the kind of advocacy that women need in any economy.”

Then after Romney answered a question on how his policies differ from those of George W. Bush — saying he would be tougher on China, work more aggressivley to expand trade, and avoid budget deficits — Obama dropped the hammer:

You know, there are some things where Governor Romney is different from George Bush. George Bush didn’t propose turning Medicare into a voucher. George Bush embraced comprehensive immigration reform. He didn’t call for self-deportation.

George Bush never suggested that we eliminate funding for Planned Parenthood, so there are differences between Governor Romney and George Bush, but they’re not on economic policy. In some ways, he’s gone to a more extreme place when it comes to social policy. And I think that’s a mistake. That’s not how we’re going to move our economy forward.

President Obama also went out of his way to revive the narrative of Mitt Romney as out-of-touch plutocrat, which had gained traction over the summer. He repeatedly slammed Romney for investing with “outsourcing pioneers,” for only paying an income tax rate of 14 percent, and — in his closing remarks — for Romney’s infamous disparaging of the “47 percent.”

“When he said behind closed doors that 47 percent of the country considered themselves victims who refuse personal responsibility, think about who he was talking about,” Obama said. “Folks on Social Security who’ve worked all their lives. Veterans who’ve sacrificed for this country. Students who are out there trying to hopefully advance their own dreams, but also this country’s dreams. Soldiers who are overseas fighting for us right now. People who are working hard every day, paying payroll tax, gas taxes, but don’t make enough income.”

“And I want to fight for them. That’s what I’ve been doing for the last four years,” the president continued. “Because if they succeed, I believe the country succeeds.”

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  • bcarreiro

    Obama has ONE plan and that is to move this country forward without congressional republicans who block an agenda. mitt couldn’t possibly elaborate on the deductions cause he has used tax loopholes as an advantage. why does the percentage of top earners always stay the same???no room for advancement when top earners forget who made them who they are. the window of opportunity only stays open if you are born into it. hope mitt enjoys eating crow.

    • Romney Nor Ryan Will Give No Clear Plan On How They Plan To Do Any Of The Stuff They Keep Trying To Con The American People Into Believing !! It’s All Just More Lies And Flip Flopping As Always!! I Just Seen Matt L. On The Today Show Asks Ryan Three Questions He Flip Flop, Took The Lakeside Route, Tap Danced, And Did Everything Under The Sun But Answer The Question !!! Matt L. Finally Said That’s The Worst Answer I Ever Heard!!! That’s The American Taliban Plan Avoid Giving Answers But Trust Me And Vote For Us We Will Get It Done?????????? We Are Not All Dumb Stupid And Racist Romney And Ryan You Can’t Con The Smart People Of America We ‘re Just Not Buying You Bullshit!!!!


        Fern—-it doesn’t matter what Romney tells you or lays out for you or explains to you—-

        YOU’RE A LIB!!!!!!!
        You don’t listen and You will say its allllllll lies.

        And you’re out of your mind saying The American Taliban talking about Romney—-Your talking about your President of the United States that you voted in and still want in to run down our counrty—-HE IS THE TALIBAN.


        •You know you’re an Obama LOVER if you think our dismal economy is all the fault of George W. Bush, who left office 45 months ago, and whose average unemployment rate was 6.3% – almost 2 points lower than under his whiz-kid successor.
        •You know you’re an Obama LOVER if you think Mitt Romney is a liar – but Obama has told the God’s-honest truth about responsibility for the deaths of our ambassador and three other Americans in Libya, getting the unemployment rate under 7% if we passed his $832-billion stimulus bill, cutting the deficit in half in his first term, his Justice Department having no knowledge of Fast and Furious (the ATF’s gunrunning-to-Mexican-drug-lords operation) prior to February 2011 and that he’d never dream of raising taxes on the middle class. The Supreme Court says the “penalties” under Obamacare are a tax – on guess who?

        • You know you’re an Obama LOVER if you think the Muslim Brotherhood is a fraternal order. Their initiation rite is killer.
        • • You know you’re an Obama LOVER if you believe Joe Biden’s claim that the intelligence community initially told the administration that our Benghazi consulate was attacked by a spontaneous mob – a spontaneous mob of al-Qaeda fighters armed with AK-47s, rocket-propelled grenades, mortars and gun trucks.
        •You know you’re an Obama LOVER if you think the president has done a consummate job of keeping Iran from getting nuclear weapons – by enacting more sanctions (which have never worked before), working with our “allies” China and Russia and refusing to draw a red line which would elicit military action against Tehran– while the mullahs spent the last four years developing fissile material.
        •You know you’re an Obama LOVER if you think Barack Hussein has “got Israel’s back.” By having Israel’s back, the president means sending hundreds of millions of dollars to Palestinians committed to Israel’s annihilation, seeking to dictate Israel’s future borders (so as to make the Jewish state impossible to defend), helping the Muslim Brotherhood come to power in Egypt, and telling the former president of France how much he hates Israeli Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu.

        •You know you’re an Obama LOVER if you think Islam really is the religion of peace – and that al-Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, the Muslim Brotherhood, the Taliban, Ahmadinejad, the scholars of Cairo’s Al-Azhar University and the imam of Mecca’s Grand Mosque don’t understand their own religion.

        •You know you’re an Obama LOVER if you think it doesn’t matter that this president skips more than half of his daily intelligence briefings. After all, he reads the reports at night – or on the golf course.

        • You know you’re an Obama LOVER if you think Obama and Biden care about the middle class – instead of looking at them the way Dracula views a blood bank.

        • You know you’re an Obama LOVER if you think raising tax rates on businesses, in the weakest economic recovery in history, won’t devastate job creation.

        • DukeDacat

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        • highpckts

          You have so many phobias I’m surprised you can function!!

  • President Obama accomplished his main goals last night, which included rallying the base, challenging Gov. Romney’s claims, defending his record, and providing a high level vision of what he believes is needed to strengthen the economy and maintain our privileged position in the world. I believe he won the debate, not only because the enthusiasm and focus he exhibited, but because of the consistency of his message and the contrast he established with an opponent whose only consistent attribute is the inconsistency of his positions.
    With the exception of proposing more tax breaks, the Mitt Romney of the last few weeks is not the same Mitt Romney that talked at the RNC and won the nomination of the Republican Party. His shift to the Center made the debate look like a Democratic primary at times. The Tea Party demands for spending reductions have been replaced by promises to restore MEDICARE savings and restore DoD programs that even the Chiefs of Staff agreed were not necessary. The plan to gut MEDICAID, dismantle MEDICARE and privatize Social Security has been set aside in favor of a resurgence of social programs that would make the most liberal Democrat blush with envy; deregulation is conspicuous by its absence, and just in case the reversal from traditional Republican orthodoxy is not enough, Romney has gone as far as embracing the Arab Spring after months of demonization and ridicule. Heck, he even proposed giving sophisticated weapons and training to Syrian rebels the CIA believes are linked to Al Qaeda. I was disappointed the President did not press him on that issue.
    Hopefully there are enough intelligent people out there to realize that a 20% tax reduction across the board, and the subsequent loss of $5T in revenues, cannot be offset by eliminating the dividends and capital gains deductions. According to analysis conducted by the Congressional Budget Office the mortgage, charity, education deductions will have to be eliminated to offset such a drastic loss of revenues. Children love it when they get candy, they are not as appreciative when the dentist has to fix their cavities…
    President Obama won the debate, but it was not a grand slam and Democrats would make a huge mistake if they dismiss Mitt Romney’s intelligence and experience. Elections are often decided by the illusions or perceptions the candidates and parties project, rather than substance, and neither Romney nor the GOP are pushovers when it comes to campaigning.
    The big issue for me is not so much weather both candidates stretched the truth or omitted relevant information to make a point at times, but the fact that Gov. Romney’s position changes, literally, from day to day. The question that people should ask themselves is which Romney would occupy the Oval Office if he is elected. Will it be the man we heard at the RNC and during the past several months who owes a debt of gratitude to the neocon establishment, or the man who changed his tune when he and GOP strategists concluded a few weeks ago that the GOP message was not selling and the only way to win was to move to the center?

    • Yes He Did He Nailed Romney On His Lies And Flip Flopping And Like Joe Biden Did To Lying Ryan He Left him No Wiggle Room !!! Then Romney Got Caught telling A Lie That Was Fact Checked Right There On Stage!!! OBAMA WON!!!

      • neece00

        Fern, did you notice that Romney never did answer the question about equal pay for women.

        • BDD1951

          I noticed that. I yelled at the TV for him to answer the question. He danced all around it.

        • old_blu

          Maybe if you were in A “binder” you could have understood what he was saying. LOL

          • Old Blu, In his first statement he said he was for Pell Grants and awhile back he was against them.

          • old_blu

            I read were Ryan’s budget could cut Pell Grants for nearly 1 million college students, and sad but true, but I think Ly’n Ryan is the brains behind this duo.

          • Just More Flip Flopping And Lying That’s All He Got !! LOL It Only Works On The Racist Dumb And Stupid People Here In America!!! Rick Santorum Said It Best When He Said ” We Will Never Have The Smart People On Our Side” Rick Santorum Told The Truth For Once In His Lying Life!!!!

          • BDD1951

            Incidently, I just saw in the news that Romney lied about the binder business. That binder was assembled by a women’s organization befor Romney was elected.

          • old_blu

            Romney lie? I believe that.

        • frivolous01

          Why would he answer this question…don’t you know that women shouldn’t be working and should be at home where they belong? (sarcasm)

          • neece00

            I will continue to work, thank you. His women should be barefoot and pregnant.


          MOST women don’t work as hard as men!!!!!!

          Look at Fern—she goes to work and blogs alllll day

          • old_blu

            I blog ALLLL day at work too, maybe I should fire me.

          • FredAppell

            How can you be a small business owner and a lib? Isn’t that an oxymoron (sarcasm)? The small business I work for used to be run and owned by a liberal and the company did very well. In 2006 he sold the business because of personal reasons and also because of a down turn in the economy, mind you, I said 2006. I was a hold over for the new owner and he has completely gutted the business and we are not doing so well. We are so small now that we have actually lost business because we can’t accommodate every potential customer. So, the down sizing method hasn’t helped one bit. It may actually prove detrimental.

          • old_blu

            I actually just run this shop for the owner, but he wouldn’t know what was going on in this little shop if he had to, there are only four of us, me and three mechanics, and we are not doing too bad, we make money and so does the owner. (thanks to a good clientele)

          • Maybe If You Take Your Meds Like A Good Little Nut Job And Get Your Dumb Ass Off The Computer And Get A JOB Maybe You Too Can Blog All Day Instead Of Waiting Till They Let You Go To The Day Room At The Lunatic Mental Hospital Where You Now Live!!!!

          • old_blu

            Hahahaha that’s funny.

          • BDD1951

            Say what????

          • You are a horses ass, and probably work like a sissy.

    • WhutHeSaid

      I think Obama opened a can of whup-ass on Multiple Mitt, and the last debate only served to make this a bigger win by comparison. President Obama clearly rattled Romney, who began acting like a spoiled CEO outraged at the gall of some underling daring to challenge him.

      I believe that the next debate is about foreign policy, so we’ll get a chance to see Obama administer another public spanking on that issue. I can’t wait.

    • darkagesbegin

      It is clear that the Romney that would occupy the white house is the puppet that would be controlled by the people who put him there: the Koch brothers and Karl Rove. It doesn’t matter what he has to say to get himself elected, his policies and positions while in office have already been bought and paid for.

    • YepThatTell

      As usual, Dominick, your points are well spoken and quite clear and correct. Thank you!

      I think we Obama supporters will not underestimate Romney – a pathological liar can never be expected to remain true to himself, and the reversals and lies are to be expected.

      We need to expose in the media the strong-arm tactics of Romney-supporting employers and major donors like the Koch brothers, who apparently stop at nothing to see their puppet elected – fairly or not.

  • nobsartist

    willard looked and acted like the snake oil salesman that he is. He calls himself a “business man” with 25 years of balancing budgets but if you look at his “business record” it revolves around taking solvent business’s, duping them into buying his crap, bankrupting them and then walking away with the cash.

    denny mclain did that and wound up in prison.

    how is it willard is running for President instead of running from the law?

    by the way willard, where are those pesky tax returns and what are you hiding?

    • dranyamelknur

      You hit the point about the tax returns. He only showed us about the $77,ooo deduction for his dancing horse and his Caymans Islands bank account. He wouldn’t fill us in on the other nine or ten most recent ones. He may have been claiming he lived in Utah and Massachusetts at the same time.
      I hope Obama lets the public know next time when Mitt gets to bragging about the Utah Olympics he “saved” how he did it. He went to Washington and registered as a lobbyist. The Bush Administration gave him almost $2 billion to patch up the Utah fiasco. I guess most of us could have put on a good show with that kind of dough.
      I read later he has accounts in Australia, Switzerland, Germany, Ireland and the Bahamas too. I also read that he has ten factories in China and has invested in China’s National Oil Company which is going around snapping up oil fields.
      My hometown of Freeport, Illinois is losing the factory where my parents, grandfather, uncles, aunts and cousins all worked years ago. They make sensors (It used to be called MicroSwitch) for cars, planes and missiles. Bain forced the workers to train their own Chinese replacement workers. The factory sent some representatives down to the Iowa State Fair to try to talk to Mitt. They were shouted down as communists and again when they tried to speak to him at the RNC they were ignored. Now ,they’ve had write-ups in the NYTimes and on MSNBC. And it’s not over. Mitt’s going to regret he didn’t tell Bain to lay off until after the election. Google BAINPORT and tell others, PLEASE!
      I heard President Obama say Mitt is invested in some highly sensitive intelligence gathering company for China and then Mitt has the nerve to complain that China is stealing our intellectual property. He’s shipping our sensitive equipment to them along with jobs of loyal, hardworking Americans who pay taxes so he and his rich buddies can get an easy ride.
      Thank you Barack Obama for standing down this sneaky clown.

    • Romney Just Lying Thru His Magic Under Wears He Left That State With Over A Billion Dollars In Debt!!! Just Like he Loaded All Those American Companies Down With Debt!!!

    • neece00

      You know, it has always been a known fact, in the small towns of Utah and Idaho, that ex-missionaries make the best car salesman. I think another word for it is ruthless.

      • old_blu

        I have lived in mormon country neece. Do you know how a mormon says eff you…………trust me.

  • old_blu

    I think Obama did a great job in the debate, he called Romney out on his lies, and Romney just looked like he couldn’t believe that Fox News had been telling him all these lies, cuz he mostly just repeated what they have been saying.

    Today is going to be a great day.

    Obama/Biden 2012

    • neece00

      I still think that Romney was rude, arrogant and just plain mean to the President of the US and the mediator.

      • old_blu

        Did you see the look on Obama’s face when Romney offended him and his team?

        I think he was ready to put the gloves on right then and there.

        • Priceless!!! LOL

          • old_blu

            Yeah it was. Good morning Fern. ; )

      • Romney Just Knew He Was Going To Rule The Debates Like He Tried And May Have Did Last Go Round But Our President Heard The American people Cries Of Out You Ass In There And Punch Romney Lying Ass In Th Gut!!! LOL And He Heard us And Did Just That!!! Obama Was On Fire!!! There Was No Morphing Into Jello Wigging And Lying Cause Obama Nailed His Butt On All The Lies!! Then He Bought Up The 47% Romney Threw Under The Bus!!! Obama / Biden 2012 And Voting Out All The GOP/Tea Party American Taliban Members Out Of Office!!1

        • neece00

          You’re right Fern, our president is BACK!!!!

          • hbdee

            What I’m worried about is this: the Mormon church holds all the death records in the nation, because those records are public and they “convert” the dead to Mormonism whether or not people would want it and without permission. And they are highly active politically. This raises the possibility of Mormons stuffing mailed ballots with votes from the beyond. Has nobody else thought of this?

            Obama/Biden and a blue, blue Congress Nov. 6th!

          • neece00

            You have a good point, makes us think about it the possibilities.

          • jarheadgene

            And WE KNOW…the only ones caught committing voter fraud …ironically is the GOP. So it should be of some concern.

          • They ( The GOP) Have Been Caught 2 Times So Far!! You Remember Bush 2000 And 2004??? Enough Said!!!

          • grammyjill

            I saw one of the deacon of the morman church on tv. He said that there were alot of democratic mormans and he was going to try to make more because Romney’s policies were against morman teachings.

          • jarheadgene

            From his lips to GOD’s ears, even though they don’t believe in the GOD of the Bible, which is unfortunate because there are lots of good(by people’s standards)people in the LDS church.
            They do not believe in the Virgin Birth of J.C.
            They don’t believe Jesus is GOD in the flesh.
            They believe they can achieve godhood themselves on the planet Kolab.
            I can go on about the drastic differences….but you get the point.

          • dalnb

            And we need to ensure he stays- We All Need To Spread the word and ensure he is reelected.

            Romney will have us in another war about asfast as G W Bush did. I spent 27+ years in the service and Romney sacres the helloou of me every time he says anythiing about our military. He has no idea what he talking about; he shows about as much knowledge of themilitary as he did about foreign relations when he did his world tour!

          • one_veteran

            Romney bragged abou his time as “a missionary”, he was a missionary to keep his ass out of the draft and Vietnam.

            He was a bully in High School, college, as a Governor (Vetoed over 800 bills and was over ridden over 700 times while on his PRIVATE ELEVATOR!) and he tried to bully in both debates, once a bully, always a bully!

          • LOL Draft Dodger Chicken Shit Thug!! None Of His 5 Sons Served Either !! Even The Queen Of England Family Served Their Country Not The Romney They To Good For That !!! But Romney And The American Taliban Don’t Mind Sending You, Your Family And friends To Wars They Start!!!

          • Fern, have you notice that those who most in favor of war never have their children in it?

          • You Got That Right NEVER!!!

          • you’re welcome…it was my priviledge and honor to serve.

          • 345_719

            Thank you for serving. I also served. rommney did not < he ran off and dodged the draft!!

          President Obama would have destroyed Mitt had he used these two

          Romney said: “My first act will be to defund Planned Parenthood.”
          “My first act will be to repeal Obamacare.”

          Planned Parenthood prevents more abortions than any unit in America.
          Free contraceptives to poorest of poor women.
          Has Mitt never studied the Bible?
          The word most used by Jesus is POOR.
          PP provides preventative health care to poorest of the poor women.

          Mitt does not understand our legal system. You cannot just repeal Laws on whims.
          Only Dictators do that.
          Clarence Swinney—scared to death of that rich man–
          p.s. Ryan in vp debate-Life begins at conception. we are anti-abortion except
          in the case of rape-incest-life of the mother—Ha! Bill Clinton Speaking?

          • Ed

            The GOP believes the NEW Testament is communist propoganda. Ayn Rand told them so.

          • Peteserb Sour Grapes Comes To Mind Your Man Got His Butt Whooped!! No Morphing Into Jello At The Debates This Time Around!!! LOL Even Fox Fake News Said Obama WON!!! LOL

          • LOL Ayn Rand Chain Smoking Nut Lived Off Of Social Security Also Just Like Paul Ryan!!

        • sigrid28

          The coffee is delicious in my favorite cafe. Obama/Biden 2012!

        • peteserb

          I think you almost have it right for a change. Except you have it in reverse. Romney called out Obama’s lying ass and Obama could only call names and not defend his policies.

          • You Wish!! Your Boy Romney Got His Lying Ass Whooped!!! LOL Obama Nailed Him To All Of His Lies And Flip Flopping Obama Stop Him From Morphing Into Jello LOL Left Him With No Wiggle Room Just Take A Real Look Stop Playing Games With Yourself You Only Look Foolish!!! LOL

          • And you look foolish capitalizing the first letter of every word. Did they teach you this in elementary school or are you naturally that ignorant?

          • elw

            Betta, you really need to get a life.

          • Maybe You Need To Shut Up And Try To Catch Up Betta 277 Fern 8407 Enough Said!!

          • old_blu

            Come on Betta. *rolls eyes*

          • betta, your Phd in English does not give you the right to castigate Fern. This is not a grammar discussion.

          • What English Phd??? Betta Just Another Troll Mad Cause Their Boy Got His Ass Whooped!!!

          • Good Morning old_blu And Maggie!!! 🙂

          • old_blu

            : )) It is a good one.

          • Yes It Is My Friend!!! 🙂

          • one_veteran

            Obama did not call Romney out on ALL of his lies! But the moderator called Romney out on the rest. Romney kept butting in DEMANDING the last word and only kept digging his hole deeper. Did you hear the moderator tell Romney to “sit down”?

          • Betta 277 Fern 8426 Keep On Talking You Just Talking A Losing Game Just Like Your Boy Romney!!! LOL Just That Fast I Just 19 Points LOL You’re Stuck LOL

          • elw

            Truth is in the eye of the beholder. There is no doubt that Romney lives in an alternative world, the problem for him is there are not enough people in it for him to win the election. Which is fortunate for us.


            obama didn’t PROVE anything

            obama can’t explain ANYTHING he has accomplished the last FOUR years!!!!!!!!

            Every single company he gave MILLIONS to is Bankrupt,
            because they don’t have to worry about the money—-IT’S FREE

            alllll obama does is BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH a bunch of junk and the Libs just sit there in amazement and believe everything he says.


          • jarheadgene

            AllameriKKKan —unfortunately you like LOY MAUCH are so uninformed….go back to school get a good education. It is still possible, while Obama is President, to get student loans. Are you related to LOY?


            of course I can:


            I can get a
            Free phone
            Free gas
            Free healthcare
            Free daycare
            Free living

            WHO IS PAYING FOR THIS????

            WE PAY 60% TAXES

          • highpckts

            Ha! You are dimwit!! Lol. Believe what you want!

          • DukeDacat

            “the audience applauded, and Romney was left sputtering”


            the audience were alllllll LIBS!!!!!!!

          • Fortunately so is most of the country

          • grammyjill

            no. they said at the begining they were all undecided. PAY ATTENTION!

          • PROOF…YOU WANT PROOF??? You know proof usually includes facts and since you are afriad of careful what you ask for. BTW when have RR even offered an explaination of their PLAN let alone proof. Get a grip and stop projecting your short commings on everybody else. You spread your BS so thick it’s like peanut butter.

          • highpckts

            You are unbelievable!! Unquestionably off the wall!!

          • 345_719

            What program were you watching? Deal or no deal?

          • why dont you check the facts romney is a lying dog who only wants to start a war

          • grammyjill

            what the hell were you watching?

        • Morning, Fern. Good debate.

        • 345_719

          Rommney got his ass handed to him!!!

          • Yes He Did ROTF!!!! LOL


            New Polls



            WHO DID WHAT???????

          • old_blu

            CNN’s survey of registered voters showed Obama topping Romney 46 percent to 39 percent.* CBS News polled undecided voters, but the outcome was largely the same with the president again besting his Republican challenger by 7 points, 37-30. The remaining 33 percent saw the debate as a draw.

          • LOOK GUYS suddenly the polls are true…AMAZINGLY SHORT MEMORY INSIDE THE BUBBLE.

      • Ed

        Romney showed during the primaries that HE HATES TO BE CHALLENGED ON ANYTHING! Born to wealth, raised to wealth and getting wealthier through the famous “Old Boy Network”mhe is unacusstomed to being challenged. His attitude is “Do you know who I am?”. Even his body language during the primaries demonstrated that. An is the same way. Remember,”If we give you specifics “you people” will use it against us.


          You know you’re an Obama voter if you believe the obama’s were poor and the Romneys were rich.
          Michelle Antoinette who earned a
          SIX-FIGURE SALARY for serving as “vice president of community relations” for the University of Chicago Medical Center and vacations at FIVE-STAR RESORTS on the Spanish Riviera. They did not live like the middle class.

        • highpckts

          Gee would us people do that?? What the hell is he hiding???


        I think you only see what you want to see—

        obama was VERY rude every time it was Romney’s turn to speak
        obama thought he could interrupt and try to act like the drunken Biden.
        He also kept interrupting the moderator when she said time was up
        he would just keep going and say just one more second
        and keep going and going even though
        SHE is a big Lib and is for obama herself.

        BUT obama is not used to having to go by the rules—he does whatever he wants
        and pushes bill through illegally without getting approved.
        Pass the bill and then you can read what’s in it.

        • jarheadgene

          AllameriKKKan — sounds like you have a problem with what psychologists call “Projection” going on there.


            Is that why the NEW polls show–



          • old_blu

            CNN’s survey of registered voters showed Obama topping Romney 46 percent to 39 percent.* CBS News polled undecided voters, but the outcome was largely the same with the president again besting his Republican challenger by 7 points, 37-30. The remaining 33 percent saw the debate as a draw.

        • DukeDacat

          “the audience applauded, and Romney was left sputtering”


            the audience were LIBS!!!!! HELLLOOOO

          • highpckts

            Yep, you’re right, all of them were Liberals! What are you smoking??

        • even some republicans i know say romney is a liar at least some of them are not as blind or stupid as you are

        • highpckts

          Obama as President cannot pass a bill without a majority in congress! If he has the Democratic majority or ( God for bid) congress acted as a bipartisan unit then bills may be passed! Just as Romney hopes to have a majority to have his way! Otherwise nothing gets done! Nothing can be “illegally” done !! Read up on how YOUR government works!!

    • Sandra

      That pic of Romney says it all. His entire life has been one of privilige and he’s not accustomed to being questioned or challenged as per photo above. I’m so glad that PO highlighted his numerous lies throughout the campaign and the MSM have allowed him to get away with it for the most part. I would hope some of his supporters are now having second thoughts. PO restuck the extreme RW ideology label back on Romney who has been deceiving people into thinking he’s middle of the road moderate Republican. That was a great play and a good shot.
      PO/JB 2012

    • dalnb

      Even FOX news has ben questioning some of Romney’s comments.

      My biggest question is; d id Romney pay the women he appointed to his cabinet less than he paid the men? He claims he reduced his state budget – did he do that by hiring women and paying them less? As if he wsa trying to avoid the answer to the question asked he never said anything about equal pay only that he had appointed women !

      • elw

        You could possibly find that information in the public records. It would be interesting to know.

      • highpckts

        Appointed women to minor positions no less!!

      • grammyjill

        why do you think he wanted the women? cheap labor. He started out with 49% and by the time he left it was down to 25%. alot of them quit on him.

        • Grammy, turns out that the binder thing was also a prevarication.

    • grammyjill

      Romney’s bucket of deductions, it comes up 4,2 trillion short. Just saw that on tv.

  • I was the happiest woman on earth last night watching our President engaging himself in a real fight. Gosh! the man is a real fighter. He has his own style that he doesn’t rush into anything. He takes time to analyse, find out what was the cause, act and deliver. To my opinion he is a very, very thoughtful man. We should take him seriously and let him move the country forward in a real mannered way. We deserve such kind of a person.

    • neece00

      Add to your description of the President as very intelligent.

    • And you are happy with the last 4 years of financial destruction? Maybe you get a check and a FREE phone too?


        That is the ONLY reason why they allllllllll want obama

        I want my
        FREE PHONE
        FREE GAS
        FREE HOUSE

      • You know Alllllllllllll it’s really odd the major difference between the “faux ?news?” bubble heads and the rest of the country, when our guy tanked on the first debate we were disappointed and wondered what was happening, but we addmitted he tanked immediately and wanted him to do better next time. Your guy just got his ass handed to him in a hat and it was easy to do just hold him to his own position and don’t let him waffle. Now the ditto heads instead of admitting thier guy tanked and hoping he’ll do better next time are all just claiming he won and ignoring the (God forbid “FACT”) yes fact that he is a complete clown if you hold him to one position. It’s even funnier that the big secret to pinning Mitt down is to just make him stick to his first lie. SOOOOOOOOOOOOO (added OOOs just so you’d get the ref) simple to do when he continually refers to his top ten talking points that have all been debunked multiple times. for instance doubled the deficit??? has gone from 1.2 trill to 1 trill with no help at all from the tea baggers…it’s a matter of public record buddy two clicks on google and boom debunked…all of mitten’s major stump points are two clicks from bullshit and anyone in the world can tell you the truth in just seconds but not your boy mitten. he’s stuck in the same bizzaro world as you…have a nice life.

        So what if Fern has her own style, I am also an English geek but I find that her odd style makes me slow down and actually read what she writes. There are probably better ways for her to get her point across but THIS IS THE USA and we embrace diversity and if you can’t handle that maybe you should move. For the record I find it difficult to read Fern’s posts but I read them anyway, if you don’t like them don’t read them. There are little arrows on your keyboard that let you scroll right past them…SIMPLE FIX.

        As to your grossly underinformed opinions ….well … if you stick your head out of the bubble of lies woven by FAUX news, you will notice that YES WE ARE BETTER OFF than 4 years ago and yes it takes a LOOOOOONG time to clean up after a nincompoop like GWB and WE the people are not going to sit by and let your giant pile of lies elect another yes man.

        • You’re actually defending someone whose poorly written, mangled sentences reflect a closed, intolerant, bigoted mind, which is completely against the very principles to which you appeal. Ya know, I am not in the habit of responding to other posters, but you are a moron and a half. Your defense of this person also applies to Betta, who you just told to move after saying you embrace diversity here in the US. You are a hypocrite and you embrace only that diversity which conforms to your juvenile horse crap!

          • Go Troll The Dictionary You Need To Get A Life !!

        • sarahg Or Sarah Palin Why Don’t You Leave Nobody Gives A Damn What You Are Saying I’m Going To Be Me Why Don’t You Be You And Shut Up Talking To Me And About Me Cause It’s Only Going To Get Worst For You!! You Have Been Trolling On 4 sites And 50 Likes Is All You Can Come Up With You Are Pitiful Little Troll!!! I’m Original You’re Not Get Yourself A Life You Do You And I Will Always Do Me!!! sarahg50 Likes After Trolling 4 sites Me Fern Over 8564 likes You Showing The Green!! LOL Maybe You Just Another Under Cover Tea Bagging BITCH!!!

          • Sad thing, Fern, is that I can find several hate blogs out there that they are directly quoting from. They didn’t go to school long enough to know what critical thinking is. I would be ashamed if I had to have some faux news or hate blog think for me.

      • highpckts

        As a matter of fact, I’m very happy! Even happier that we didn’t have another Bush in office!

  • I watched the debate and listened very carefully which some people didn’t do because as
    Republicans they already made up their minds. I have followed these different meetings and see where Mitt Romney has been flip flopping his way every time he speaks. No matter what he does the Republican will never give the President any credit. Americans open your
    eyes and ears. Listen and see who is telling the truth. I am a mother, a grandmother and a great grandmother. I have a grandson who is in the Marines. I want to see him come home safe.
    All those people who want’s to keep the wars going does not care about your sons and daughters safety. Those are not our wars. No matter what we do they will always be wars
    in those countries and there is nothing America or anyone can do to stop it. What have we gained so far from these wars except having our sons and daughters killed.

    • neece00

      I am with you Carl, I would like to scream for the roof tops “people, open your eyes and ears”.

      • You Got That Right Just Like I Just Told peteserb Stop Playing Games With Yourself The Man Is A Lying Con Man Who Will Say Anything To Close The Deal!!! Romney Got The Beatdown Of His Life And The Best is Yet To Come!!!! Obama/Biden 2012

        • neece00

          This is a good day in the neighborhood, even big bird is happy.


            Sorry wrong show—that was Mister Rogers Neighborhood —

            It’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood

            Your right it is—-
            Because the New Polls are out

            Romney —–51

            Looks like you guys were there only ones that believed the lies

          • old_blu

            CNN’s survey of registered voters showed Obama topping Romney 46 percent to 39 percent.* CBS News polled undecided voters, but the outcome was largely the same with the president again besting his Republican challenger by 7 points, 37-30. The remaining 33 percent saw the debate as a draw.

          • neece00

            You know it all depends on which poll you are looking at.

        • Amen

    • sigrid28

      Not only your grandson but your entire family has sacrificed for the good of the country, and all Americans hold that sacrifice dear. President Obama has developed an effective plan for dealing with countries that have never seen peace except under dictators. It’s not boots on the ground, which Governor Romney and the neo-conservatives on his team want to see more of, in Iran and Syria, for example; but it is drones overhead and special ops teams executing limited, focused, rapid strikes against the enemy, with diplomats–not troops–on the ground. The Obama administration supports the policy of having the militia of a country protect its own borders and citizens, which is the goal in Afghanistan. The next debate on foreign policy is about families, too, as your post so eloquently illustrates.

    • Carl, how peaceful the world would be if those who want war had to lead the armies in the war and had to put their children in the war. If we start war with Iran, six other countries might go to their aid. Our military would not be big enough to fight them all and we might have to reinstated the draft. Of course, those who want war would find ways to keep thier kids out of it. They should eliminate all the deferments and then see what happens.

      • CAThinker

        AGREE! But I agreed with this concept long before my only child and son enlisted in the Marine Corps last spring. It was his choice and my prayer is that if he is sent into harm’s way that it’s a righteous and justified conflict. I’m convinced that NitMItt doesn’t know what that is or how he would even define it. So far I haven’t seen a Talipublican member have that kind of conscience and responsibility. I still believe the Iraq war was started only to ensure W’s second term… He was deep underwater before that… I sense that if NitMitt is elected president he’s also going to want to be a wartime president – they seem to be the only ones written about in history books… and NitMitt is vain enough to want that… even if for the wrong reason (like W)…

        • If You Look Back In The Last 30 Or More Years The GOP Always Start The Wars We Have Been In Even Vietnam, Ike Started That Before, Without The Boots On The Ground Go Back To The History Books You Will See!! They Are Heavily Invested In Wars!!! They Make Money From Them!!!

    • grammyjill

      my son is home, but i still wonder if he will ever be my son again.

      • That’s The Really Sad Thing About These DAMN WARS They SCREW People Minds Up!!! We Need To Give Peace A Chance!!!!

      • The effects of the Korean War on my brother were devastating his entire life.

  • Obama Bought The Fight Back To Romney And Whooped Romney Lying Butt!!!

  • carolknows

    america’s middle class won/robber barons lost…hurray! hopefully now we can move on to continue to correct the country and reign in the crooks of wall street/big business. prez was right: we have to have a fair level playing field…romney is a snake-oil salesman and misogenist..god help america if he or his ilk ever get in. bush jr was bad enough

  • nobsartist

    Remove ALL republiCONs from office in November.

    Vote the traitors out!

    • Remove all DEMONRATS from office in November. Let’s just clean house and vote them ALL OUT. Maybe there’s someone who knows how to tell the truth, much unlike your LIAR IN CHIEF messiah who has done nothing but LIE his ass off.


        Looks like that’s whats going to happen—

        New polls today:


        • old_blu

          CNN’s survey of registered voters showed Obama topping Romney 46 percent to 39 percent.* CBS News polled undecided voters, but the outcome was largely the same with the president again besting his Republican challenger by 7 points, 37-30. The remaining 33 percent saw the debate as a draw.

        • In Your Tea Bagging Dream Fool!! LOL

          • You know, Fern, I voted for the president in ’08 and will do so again in November, but in the interests of openness and the belief that all people should be able to freely express their views without being berated and called foolish names by seemingly immature and childish posters, I think your language is extremely unbecoming, very irresponsible and is against the very principles of the very party to which you belong and the very country you in which you reside. Your approach is hardly democratic. It’s certainly language and behavior that does not represent democrats very well and I’m sure president Obama would not approve.

          • You Got A Good Chance To Shut The Fuck Up Talking To Me I’m A Grown Woman I Say What The Hell I Want To Say Nobody Holding A Gun To Your Head Making You Read What I Wrote Mind Your Business Raise Your Own Kids!!! sarahg 47 Fern 8523 You need To Shut Up And Try To Catch Up!! I’m A Grown Ass Woman Teach Your Kids!!!

          • You are uneducated and extremely crass, big time. Your entire demeanor is totally shocking and bizarre. And the same could be said to you of all the posters who you attack with your foul, low brow filthy language–nobody is forcing you to read their posts either. I cannot believe you haven’t been kicked off this site. Grown women do not behave like that. Wow.


          • Hey, Fern, did you notice the remark about blood sucking vampires? Take a picture of Ryan, put a cape with a raised collar, red lining and point his ears a little on the picture. I tried it. It was interesting.

        • These comments are moronic, juvenile and incredibly strange. But you need to represent those numbers honestly, my friend, which seems to be as absent here as in any republican talking points you’re always running at the mouth about. Firstly, it’s 46/39 Obama/Romney, generally. But that’s not the whole story. Voters believed Romney would do better on the economy while Obama would be better for the middle class; however, the two were tied in one important issue: whether the debate would affect how undecideds and independents will vote. Half said the debate did not make them more likely to vote for either of the two;, but the half were evenly split between them.

          Now, I’m not republican lover here, but that is hardly a resounding victory over a guy who, just before the first debate, was viewed as losing this contest in a big way, which is no longer the case. I believe that is the real story: The historic upset caused during presidential debate number one. Romney clearly pulled a Clintonian come-back kid tact that caught the incumbent quite off guard.

          What is important, and is the only real measure, ultimately, of how the president fared is did the president put Romney in his place and send him back to his pre-debate losing status, winning over the highly sought after independents and undecideds? Unfortunately for the Obamas, the answer is not even close. That’s the truth, no matter who you like or who you dislike.

          I guarantee you that is how the Obamas and even the Romneys are ultimately measuring this. You can believe that team Romney is still feeling very good, notwithstanding the president’s very admirable and able defensive performance. But I’ve always believed that winners usually practice offensive tactics while those who are on the losing side play defensive, for what ever it’s worth…

          Now, having said all of that, I do believe, as I have from the very beginning of this race, that the president will be re-elected, only not by nearly as wide of a margin as pre-debates seemed to promise.

    • Remove ALL democRATS from office in November.

      See how that works?

      • nobsartist

        remove all traitors, I mean republiKKKONS from office.

        See how THAT works,

        In fact, dont let anyone that voted for the AWOL coke head that lied us into 2 wars, was convicted of war crimes and tried to bankrupt our country vote again.

  • Jerpell

    I thought Romney did well considering that Obama, the moderator and the crowd were all democrats….Imagine if it were the other way around, all the crying we would hear.
    At least Romney exposed more of Obama’s lies and twisted tails…Again Obama did not look or sound presidential…..

    • hardly the people were from long Island one of the richest areas of NY state. I would imagine there were a few republicans in the room.

      • Jerpell

        There are very very few Republicans in New York…I live right next door…
        Nice try tho…..

        • old_blu

          Jerpell, you know your boy got spanked, I admitted it when the President of the United States lost, now you have to grow a pair and say “my boy got spanked” go ahead and say it.

          I don’t care what your fake news is saying go ahead say it.

    • Did we watch the same debate? Romney didn’t expose anything except being bully and his packs of lies…Sell that crap elsewhere…

      • CAThinker

        No – it was the same debate… just different glasses… and he had the kool-aid.

    • YepThatTell

      That’s funny…we figured the guy asking the question about the Libya attacks was a “Republican” plant. Ms. Crowley, it seemed to me, allowed Romney to exceed his time far too regularly.

      President Obama was absolutely presidential in demeanor and in what he said and how he said it. Of course, if you think George W Bush appeared ‘presidential’ then we have a stark difference of opinion, and you’re entitled to yours.

      And Romney was a whiny baby who appeared anything but presidential.

    • jarheadgene

      DEMOCRATS? !….the debate was in Long Island, NY near the Hamptons….sounds more like Romneyland. JUST ADMIT IT …..HE LOST!


        New York is not a swing state.

        It’s true BLUE state and has been since 1984.

        New York voted overwhelmingly for Obama in 2008

        Of Course New York is FULLLLL of Libs

        • jarheadgene

          AllAmeriKKKan…..NY State is blue, but L.I. is way, way RED….Don’t you remember this summer’s big fund raiser at the SWINGER billionaire’s house in the Hamptons? Where the lady in a Rolls Royce was yelling at traffic cops to treat her like a VIP. Or are you that much of an uninformed voter? Quit crying about it, your BOY got spanked like RYAN did by Biden. The TRUTH will set you free and that is what the President dealt to the audience and Romney …..the TRUTH.


            That’s YOUR opinion.

            The only thing obama did is lie and say that he has done this and that—REALLY????

            Like raise gas prices
            Like Lower taxes
            More people unemployed
            More people taking Food Stamps
            Like Lying about Libya
            And the production is up??? This is just not true

            Maybe this is why the polls today say:

            Romney— 51

          • old_blu

            CNN’s survey of registered voters showed Obama topping Romney 46 percent to 39 percent.* CBS News polled undecided voters, but the outcome was largely the same with the president again besting his Republican challenger by 7 points, 37-30. The remaining 33 percent saw the debate as a draw.

        • neece00

          Why can’t you just admit defeat?

    • Jerpell, here is a tissue to wipe your eyes. Maybe, I can find a bandaid. Did you not notice the signs that the audience was carrying? Both, inside and outside the building there were signs supporting both candidates. Now, “The teacher doesn’t like me” doesn’t work with intelligent, mature people.

    • DukeDacat

      “the audience applauded, and Romney was left sputtering”

  • Jim Lou

    This was a better performance. That is because of the nature of the debate itself. It was a meeting where the audience was allowed to participate.

    Obama in some cases wasn’t sharp enough on his punches. He has to hit harder, but then he runs the risk of being a bully.

    I am looking forward to the 3rd debate. I hope that Obama is prepared for any contingency and be able to think on his feet.

    • CAThinker

      I agree – I’m also looking forward to the next one. NitMitt should be crapping his pants right now – his only real shot at the President on foreign affairs fell flat when he was called out for a lie… I was wondering why the President so smugly said, “Please continue governor…” It’s going to be more of that, and more like that, at the next one. In retrospect, between his 47% video and his premature “press” conference following Benghazi, the guy is sunk – he thought he had a round in the chamber and he used it prematurely, reinforcing how true and important the 47% video really is. Tough to back peddle from words behind closed doors. And NitMitt’s foreign policy is a veritable top 40 of faux pas, starting with the comments about Russia, the insult to the British about the Olympics, the “get tough” on China stance, Israel/Palestine, failure to discriminate his position on Iran from the President’s… ad nauseum…

  • Obama had Mitt shaking.

  • foolsdance

    Obama was awesome! The man I expected at the first debate showed up last night and blew romney away. Audience laughed with Big O, applauded Big O – nothing of the sort for romney. The video still of romney’s face accompanying the article is perfect! Red faced, red eyed and furious about being held to the truth!
    OBAMA/BIDEN 2012

  • romadaro

    Thank goodness the President is back and last night he was in rare form and at his best! I’m tired of Mitt’s lies and flip flopping. If Romney wins, God help us! This election shouldn’t even be close. We have no details on any of the so-called plans he claims he has. What in the hell is “the 5 Point Plan????” Does anybody know? If you do, please enlighten me and the rest of the country!!!

    • jarheadgene

      To see Romneys plan go to www dot romneytaxplan dot com … can get all the details Romney has laid out.

      • nobsartist

        yes, its blank.

      • old_blu

        I went to it nothing happens. LOL

  • foolsdance

    @Jerkpell – you can’t possibly have watched the same debate as the rest of us did. Oh, right. forgot for a second that republicans won’t admit the truth even when it is staring them in the face. lie when telling the truth would be easier – pathological.

  • SaneJane

    Romney knows he doesn’t have to worry about the votes of the far right because they would never vote for President Obama. That gives him freedom to scuttle all the promises he made to them and move to the center. I have seen many comments posted that indicate the far right think Romney is just pretending moderation in order to win and will revert to “severely conservative” when he gets to the oval office.

  • I was very proud of The President last night. He was precise and very direct. He also came
    in well prepared to expose the Governor with his lies. Mr. Romney keeps talking about his position as Governor. That is not taking care of the whole country. That’s just one state Being a President has a lot of load to carry and without any cooperation from the Republicans many of the things that would help the middle class they blocked. As far as
    the job growth. Many of those people were out of jobs by the end of the Bush presidency.
    I have three sons and they are all gainfully employed. They have a trade. That is what the
    President is trying do that everyone has the opportunity but needs to get proper education
    and without that it has always been difficult to get good employment. The President cannot
    fix something that took 8 years to destroy in 4 years. Mr. Romney is making all these
    promises. How do we know he can keep them. At least you know what the President has done. He might not have accomplish everything but he tried his very best with two wars
    to clean up and all the other mess that the previous President made. He is a genuine person
    and cares about our families. God Bless him.

  • montanabill

    The President was up to his usual tricks of calling Romney a liar. The real problem is that when he points the liar finger at Romney, three fingers are pointing back to him. It is okay to define a lie being told, but when you simply spout, “liar”, while using lies and partial truths to back it up, you lose. I don’t think I could find one single segment where the President wasn’t using falsehoods; from his energy ‘success’, to job creation, to ‘saving GM’, to Obamacare, to ‘act of terror’ which should have been more accurately quoted as “no acts of terror”, to his claim of Romney using Arizona’s law as a model, to his tax plan reducing the deficit, et al.
    But this is the one which caused me to spit out my popcorn in disbelief:
    “And the suggestion that anybody in my team, whether the Secretary of State, our U.N. Ambassador, anybody on my team would play politics or mislead when we’ve lost four of our own, governor, is offensive. That’s not what we do. That’s not what I do as president, that’s not what I do as Commander in Chief.”
    In fact, it is what he is still doing! Ohhhh, his nose is so growing!

    • jarheadgene

      YEEEEHAAWWWW MontanaBill….you were not watching the same debate….Romney came out looking stumped and befuddled…becauase he was called out on what HE KNOWS are lies. But here is one of the main differences in Political Parties….the Dems woefully admitted Obama lost the 1st debate…..GOP never admit to ANY mistakes they think they are all the rich privlidged and perfect few. It is harder for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than a rich man get into heaven. GIVE IT UP…..Romney clearly LOST !


        You know you’re an Obama voter if
        you believe that Ann Romney – who raised five sons while running a household, doing charitable work and battling MS – “never worked a day in her life,”

        unlike Michelle Antoinette who earned a


        for serving as “vice president of community relations” for the University of Chicago Medical Center and

        vacations at FIVE-STAR RESORTS on the Spanish Riviera.

        They can sure relate to the poor

        • neece00

          You forgot to mention Mr Allll, Ann Romney has plenty of help raising 5 sons while running a household. Nanny, cook, housekeeper, gardner and oh, I forgot the pool boy. So don’t give us that sob story about Mrs. Romney.

          • Landsende

            And how many people with MS can afford a “therapy” horse?

          • old_blu

            You’re so smart neece.


            GET THE FACTS!!!!

            The Romney’s NEVER had nannys, cooks.

            Where I live, EVERYONE has a pool boy and a gardener—Don’t you?

          • neece00

            Do your research; the Romney’s employed 4 maids and the job description list housekeeping, babysitters, personal assistant and house related tasks. This was actually on his tax report that he did release.

            And no, I do not have a pool boy nor a pool but I do have a garner, me.

        • jarheadgene

          Well, well AllameriKKKan – What does Ann Romney have to do with your BOY getting spanked last night? Ann Romney raised those LIARS(as Willard called them)….or was it a group of Nannies and AuPairs? Charity work like Paul Ryan displayed the other day? As for a Six figure salary for Michelle Obama….no one “HAS” to pay set wages. This a free economy. Don’t you listen to your homies about that?

        • nobsartist

          ann ran a house hold?

          You are a moron. neither of those two parasites have ever worked a day in their useless lives.

          ann cant even do her own nails.

          By the way, Michelle Obama is a successful lawyer that actually has had a job. That is something that willard and ryan will never be able to claim.


            The FACT is—–
            and the POINT was-

            michelle was making a SIX-FIGURE SALARY!!!!!!

            and vacations in FIVE-STAR RESORTS

            They were not living poorly or in the middle class

            How does anyone run a businsess????? You don’t lay around at home!!!!

            We have businesses and have to work 15-hours a day and more
            7-days a week to keep it going!!!!!

            We pay 60% to taxes

            YOU HAVE KNOW IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT unless you have run a business of your own!

          • nobsartist

            I also own a business. You just own the wrong business. You should get out of the racism business. You might make more money.

            It sounds to me like you peddle BS.

          • I had a career, ran a household and raised five wonderful children without servants.



      He knows that he can lie and say anything and the Libs will believe anything he says!!!!!!

      You know you’re an Obama voter if you think the GM bailout is a shining success. At a cost of $50 billion to taxpayers, the president saved $56-an hour union jobs, while screwing bondholders and giving Washington 26.5% share of the auto giant.

      • nobsartist

        The GM re-structure is far more successful than Bain.

        You are an idiot.

      • jarheadgene

        AllameriKKKan…..and if President Obama “SAVED” GM the way Bain Capital would have….He would have set up SUPER HIGH INTEREST Loans then extracted a huge payment for his services for himself, had Chinese workers on the assembly line learning to do to job that would ultimately be moved to CHINA. Then he would have walked away and left the PLANT to fail, while he laughed all the way to the bank. GO back to school, you desperately need it.

    • nobsartist

      thanks for the comments. You two no doubt voted for the AWOL coke head that led us int 2 wars, was convicted of war crimes and tried to bankrupt our country, twice.

  • WOW- eat Presidential dust Romney; ’cause Barack left you lying in it- up to your eyeballs!!!

  • That was one of the more obviously biased and one sided articles I’ve read in a while, meaning it was not that interesting. I saw the debate personally. And thank God I did. If all I did was read this article, I would have the impression that Obama beat Romney as handily as Romney beat Obama in the first debate, which is obviously not the case; therefore, this article is dishonest on its face and does none of us any damned good! And while I would not consider myself a supporter of the republicans, I detest such obvious, slavish biases from someone who apparently sees themselves as a journalist.

    I think a more accurate account of the debate could be summed up by saying that Obama certainly appeared to wake up as the debate progressed and he performed extremely well and admirably, as did Romney. They both delivered attacks that were at times very convincing and penetrating while they also experienced their own respective criticisms from each other, also compelling. I think at the end of the night, Obama was victorious only insofar as he redeemed himself and put up a very able defense. Romney is victorious most especially because he was seen, right up until the first debate, as losing this contest in a very big way, but came out swinging and has not stopped since, which has come off very well for him as reflected in the massive upset that resulted in this once-believed shoe-in for the president.

    • DukeDacat

      Sarah, I also watched the entire debate………..

      “the audience applauded, and Romney was left sputtering”

      • Friend, that is a meaningless statement that, with all due respects to you, is a substitute for real, authentic analysis on your part. At least I actually put some thought, my own thoughts, regardless of what you may think of them, into my response. Why don’t you do the same, rather than simply re-posting someone else’s thoughts throughout the entire comments section? I stand behind what I said.

  • Given Romney’s disastrous world tour–where he said he’d craft US Policy to appease the right wing of Israel, crowed over Socialist health care as long as it wasn’t American, and managed to insult Britain badly while speaking with the Prime Minister–you have to wonder if he’ll give up the frigging Etch-A-Sketch and just call in sick for this one.

  • EXTRA-EXTRA, READ ALL ABOUT IT: Narcisstic Nib-Nab Gets Neutered In New York [politically speaking that is]. Bite the bullet and get lost Romney!!!

  • LIES don’t pay

  • LIES don’t pay. Justice is done

  • TZToronto

    There were several things that Obama did that, I think, won the night for him. (1) The suggestion that Romney would not, as an investor, invest in a plan that had no details about how it was going to work was a very small corner Romney got backed into. (2) The Benghazi “terrorist” falsehood that Candy called Romney on made Romney look like a poorly-prepared high school debater who made a blatantly false statement. Romney’s subsequent stumbling and the fact that Obama and Crowley had to save Romney from himself speaks strongly to Romney’s inability to think on his feet, especially when caught in a lie. (3) Obama’s comment about the size of Obama’s and Romney’s pensions was a classic. These three things (among others), along with Obama’s generally strong demeanor, presented simple but clearly honest images for the folks at home to appreciate. The professor of the first debate was replaced by the knowledgeable expert who, like Bill Clinton, can explain stuff.

  • jarheadgene

    DID any one catch the Rupert Murdoch MEAT PUPPET aka Sean Hannity interviewing John Sununu after the debates……They tried to be such spin doctors…..but it was completely laughable. They tried to say in defense of Romney getting caught in his lie about Benghazi that, Obama was speaking about 9-11 2001 as the act of Terror he spoke of on 9-12 2012. HAHA such buffoons.

    • nobsartist

      john sununu is a fat POS.

      • John Sununu is everthing that Christ is not. He lies. He bears false witness and his rhetoric is violent. I think he is evil.

        • DukeDacat

          Just imagine, which Cabinet post that Rommey has promised John Sununu!!!

  • peteserb

    If one analyzes the debate in an unbiased manner, the debate was a draw. However if ideas and substance were analyzed, Romney won. Obama did not put forward one new idea. He merely attacked Romney because Obama has no record to run on. The most glaring fact to come out of the debate was when Obama said “I don’t beleive government makes jobs.” He must have had a change of mind because that’s all he has ever preached. Is this a sign of desperation? many beleive it is.

    • nobsartist

      willard lost you should go back to croatia.

      • That’s awfully anti-immigration of you, nobsartist, not to mention potentially indicating a racist attitude…

        • nobsartist

          considering croatia is a country and not a race, what is your point? by the way, I believe that if we had less wars, we would have less people here from countries that we are or have been at war with. Just so you know, I am against people that aligned themselves with Adolph Hitler being allowed to move here. Does that bother you?

    • ExPAVIC

      Spell What?

      Learn to spell, learn to write, and learn to think.

      • CAThinker

        Hey ExP – good advice, but wrong order… Learn to think, then learn to spell, then learn to write… Keep on ’em and keep up the good fight!

  • Have you all heard about the letters sent to employees by the Koch brothers and several other millionaire business owners saying if the right people, Romney and Ryan, weren’t elected there would be layoff and plant shutdowns and gave them a list of people to vote for.
    They say they aren’t telling their employees who to vote for just giving them suggestions about the best people for the Country. This is another way of showing that every one knows that Romney and Ryan won’t be elected unless people are threatened with job losses and under handed methods. It seems like to me that the Koch brothers and the others should be charged with voter interfearence (not spelled right) for their threats about jobs.

    • nobsartist

      the koch brothers.

      fred koch started the John Birch Society.

      See any relationship?

    • neece00

      The right to vote and to make our choice is something we as American’s, all hold very sacred.

      • johninPCFL

        The Koch brothers are very subtly saying that you DO have the right to vote, but if you don’t vote for OUR GUY, you won’t have a job.

        Very American, right? /sarc off

      • That Why Koch Brothers Got Their Ass In Court NOW I Hope They Lose Big Time!!! LOL

    • jarheadgene

      Fortunately for everyone…..the BOOTHS are PRIVATE. Tell the Koch bros. what they want to hear, like Romney does to voters. “Yeah I voted for ROMNEY…wink* wink*”

    • BDD1951

      I did. And you know that there won’t be any lay offs because the Koch Bros. will just get richer with Obama’s policies. And yesterday there was an article of someone being kidnapped by a third Koch brother. Hopefully, The law will investigate.
      About the Rose Garden debaucle, I loved it. The part I liked is the show Romney put before he was fact checked. The look he had on his face, that smug look, was priceless. Candy just ruined his “gotcha moment”.

    • Yes I Was Talking About How Low Down That Is !! But Let’s Hope This Too Will Be One Of Those Many Dirty Tactics They Been Pulling That Blow Back Up In Their Ugly Faces!!! LOL

  • I agree our President made us all proud….he showed his “stuff” and his knowledge of our country, it’s polititions, immigration problems and foreign policy.
    I was surprised, to see the “snear” on Mrs Romney’s face after the debate when she looked over at the President. She just showed, again, her real attitude toward our President and I say “Go home little girl and grow up, you do not have a clue”. I leave “family” alone, but this was just TOO MUCH OF A HATE SLUR and I call her out for it. Mitt parades her out in her red dress to benefit his image, well teach her some love and she might get some real class…REMEMBER PRETTY IS AS PRETTY DOES…… 4 MORE YEARS OBAMA/BIDEN !!!!!

    • Landsende

      Did you also notice how after the debate Mrs. Romney didn’t make any effort to talk to the audience members and looked very uncomfortable when someone tried to talk to her. President Obama and Michele went into the audience right away and started conversing and having their pictures taken with them. Big contrast between Michele, who is engaging and warm, and Ann, who is reserved and uncomfortable around “you people”.

      • nobsartist

        willard got spanked like a bully.

      • I did notice.

  • latebloomingrandma

    Romney looked very much the corporate CEO, who is getting ready for the hostile takeover. He was bullying to the moderator and even to the President, with trying to claim the stage under his own terms, much as the “boss” would do when h’e getting ready to do his hatchet job for the company. Unfortunately for him, the actual President returned last night and would have none of it. He is not one of Mitt’s minions that stand there and take it. Obama learned his lesson fom 2 weeks ago, and couldn’t be “Presidential” and above the fray with the corporate raider who is used to getting his way relatively unchallenged.

  • T

    Romney is very superficial. He is all things for all men .His policy is “appear to please everyone but please none.” Take care America don’t vote for a phoney.


    I don’t know why ANY of you watch the debate EVER—-

    It doesn’t matter what they say

    Or what FACTS are right in front of your face and you believe any lie obama tells you

    You will still want YOUR obama—-I don’t get it!

    I just don’t know why you can’t see he is bringing the US down—

    Romney knows how to run a business—-obama has NO idea

    • nobsartist

      You are no doubt another one that voted for the AWOL coke head that lied us into 2 wars, was convicted of war crimes and tried to bankrupt our country, twice.

      case closed.


        do you really think people want to go to war??????

        Why do you think we go to war?????

        or maybe we can just keep letting them come over and blowing up our buildings
        or our American Embassy and our Ambassador.

    • Sand_Cat

      That definitely isn’t all you don’t get! You clearly didn’t get much in the way of brains yourself.

      And to answer another of your charges:

      The US government is NOT a business, and god help the nation and the world if it ever becomes one.


        OH, you’re kidding!!!!!!!!

        Wellllllll——I think someone that has ran several businesses can run the country and balance the budget waaaaaaaay more than a community organizer
        LOOK what he hasn’t done in four year!!!!!!!!!

        And I don’t know why you LIBS get off on calling names and trying to belittle people???
        WHO ARE YOU

        You’re supposed to say what can I do for my country NOT what can my country do for me!!

    • DukeDacat

      “the audience applauded, and Romney was left sputtering”

  • One of the low point is the clown,Romney,bullying Crowley,and showing such disrespect for the president..

    • Sand_Cat

      To be fair, no president should be allowed to hide behind “respect for the president” during a campaign or debate (and I’m not claiming here that Obama has done so). He should of course, be shielded by respect for the truth, but his opponenets lost that before he finished high school.

  • CaptCaribbean

    Romney is a nincompoop, and no amount of prepping or tutoring can overcome his lack of issue comprehension. Having a clown like this in the Presidency would be the severest joke America would ever play on itself.

  • Here’s the FACTS. Your messiah can’t run on his record so he resorts to attacks. Classic psychopath.

    When your messiah said he lowered taxes on the middle class…THAT was an outright LIE! The middle class will be hit with over $2,500.00+ in MORE taxes on January 1, 2013 to help pay for obamacare. Not to mention the BILLIONS he stole from Medicare to pay for obamacare. Are you ready? You might have to spend food money on the new taxes you will pay. That is…not unless you are getting FOOD STAMPS then your food is free, paid f or by somebody else

    He also said that he ended the war in Iraq. This is another LIE. We were kicked OUT of Iraq. YEP, they wanted us out. THAT’S why we’re out of Iraq. Look it up!

    Do you know the number of jobs that will be lost if this illegal alien is re-elected? You all better look that up too. I won’t help you do the research that you should be doing for yourselves.

    I don’t support Romney and I sure as hell don’t support an illegal in the oval office. BOTH are LIARS and your messiah is the BIGGEST one of them all. We’re talking about a man who lost his law license because he LIED on his application. LIAR, LIAR, LIAR.

    And you guys support this known LIAR? Time to put down the kool-aid and pull your heads out.

    • nobsartist

      He said he lowered taxes. You said taxes are going up. Are you stupid or do you not know the difference between “lowered” and “raising”? By the way, taxes may go up but it is because of the traitors that you support.

      As far as Iraq goes, if we were “kicked out” why are we still there?

      You are a racist half wit.


        We pay 60% taxes——–that is criminal

        I would say taxes have gone ski rocketed.

        What do you pay????

    • Sand_Cat

      Throughout this campaign, and before it began, you and your wing nut friends have invented and circulated every scurrilous falsehood in the book about the president. You have attacked him as a “Socialist,” “Communist,” “Fascist,” “Nazi,” Muslim,” foreigner and god knows what else. And then some moron like you comes forward and says the president can’t run on his record so he attacks and is a classic psychopath.

      First of all, your comment – or more accurately, attack – makes clear you haven’t a clue what the president’s record is, and that all you can do is repeat Faux News talking points.

      But we can get more to the point: those who have no facts and are too lazy and stupid to gather them resort to attacks, too. And the “psychopath” charge looks like it fits you better as well.

      Your little screed is a “classic” (if I may borrow your term) case of projection, like most wing-nut comment here.


        YES—you are right—

        he is a communist
        he is a muslim
        he is a terrorist

        he has lied about everything and you alllll believe anything and everything he says.


        2016: Obama’s America

        • johninPCFL

          Hey idiot, you can’t be a muslim and a communist. Maybe read a little before commenting.


            Let’s let more of his kind in OUR country to take over—

            Do you like the United States of America ran by muslims???

            Maybe you can vote to let more of them in our country—they are taking over

            Man arrested in plot to blow up Federal Reserve bank in New York

            Let’s just keep letting allll the muslims in our country so they can keep trying and accomplishing to blow up our buildings

            Lets see—-What’s his name:
            Quazi Mohammad Rezwanul Ahsan Nafis—

            Oh, how American


            He’s trying his hardest to be both

      • Sand, these hate groups started putting out their lies when he was running for senate. They cannot stand a Black man in government. They don’t acutally see him doing anything wrong so they make up horrendous lies. These are evil people. Why any sane person would listen to a fringe lunatic is beyond me. It would be wonderful if they were taken to court for defamation of character and libel. Their attack on the head of our govrnment is treason.

    • You’re so full of *hit as last years Xmas turkey…Get some facts and a life…

    • jarheadgene

      I will Pray for you BETTA , because apparently you are seriously TOO STUPID for words to explain.


      Thank You for the FACTS!!!!

      But it doesn’t matter in the LIBS mind—–They won’t listen to anything or even try to be educated—-It’s a waist.

      I don’t know why any of them watch the debate; they only hear what THEY want and are soooo close minded it’s ridiculous.

      Like this right here—You have laid out the Facts for them and they say it’s lies—–


    • neece00

      Your bigotry is showing.


        Of COURSE when the tables are turned—-


  • elw

    Now that was the President I voted for yesterday- via early voting. Which thanks to the Obama Administration fight against the Republican’s trying so hard to outlaw it is still legal. Good job President Obama, I am looking forward to you serving this Country another four years. Let’s send Romney back home so he can finish building that 50 million dollar garage on his home.

  • Romney was rude and un-Presidential. Can you imagine how he would listen to anyone else besides himself in a Cabinet meeting? Good job, Obama!

    • I shudder to think how he will communicate with people of other countries who disagree with him. Oh,he will bomb them.



        YOU—shouldn’t want them here
        just like they guy arrested in plot to blow up Federal Reserve bank in New York

        Let’s just keep letting allll the muslims in our country so they can keep trying and accomplishing to blow up our buildings


        They will be at your home blowing it up next—–Is that what you want

        Let’s just let them do what they want!!!!!!!!!!

        • I am not a paranoid. I wasn’t born a paranoid. I can’t possibly relate to all your scare tactics.

  • If only those “undecideds” were told the truth. Romney’s Massachusetts was 47th in the nation in job growth. THAT IS A FACT. On top of that, the good things that were done in that state were done by a big majority of Democrats who DO care about the middle class. I wish those undecideds would learn the facts.

    • johninPCFL

      AND in spite of Romney’s requirement to balance the MA budget, he left them $BILLIONS in debt when he left office. How? Well, he took the computers with him, so no one knows…


    Taaaaaaaaaaaaa Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    So what have so many of us been saying for these past several months?

    That RoMoney doesn’t know his butt from first base, that he engages in voodoo economics; if you liked Bush you will love Mittens; rich, old bigoted white guys don’t run this country anymore; RoMoney hates women; RoMoney and his $200 million doesn’t care about the ordinary people, and 47% of us are just hanging around and begging for pennies.

  • annabella2007

    Go ahead Obama, you are our president and will be again, because you support the poor not the rich, and we’ll support you decide and we are sure that you’ll be the winning the
    next time and on nov 6th , all the hispanic are with you.

    • jarheadgene

      Romney is behind by over 50 points in polls for Hispanic vote…..Hispanics KNOW elitist lying snobs when they see one.

  • AloysiusChibuikeAnosike

    Maturity in politics is not recounting how many eggs you protected as business man rather what stuff do have for American future. Obama had shown a lot evidence of his administration, proves with results. Obama staged serious comeback to white house situation last night.

  • Mutt’s a — was torn out by Obama, surgically installed back in and torn out again. Way to go President Obama, he did’nt show you any respect in the first or second debate. You were truly the Commander in Cheif last night. The republicans stated from day one that their agenda was to make President Obama a one term President. They have fought him without regard for the Middle Class or poor.

  • Facts don’t mean a damn thing to these Repukes…Their inbred/ignorant ideology is their set of facts..

  • that was a great debate on last night now that’s the president i wanted to see romey was not all smiles last night got caught with is hand in the cookie jar liaer he look like he was confused romey has told so much lies he just did’t know what to say way to go Mr.President
    i am so proud of you

  • Obama clearly was trying too hard and came across as mean. Not saying Romney knocked it out of the park, but he went toe to toe with Obama and clearly won the debate on facts and policy. Obama will not be able to defend his broken record.

    Romney/Ryan 2012

    • No, he didn’t,idiota..You are full of crap…

    • nobsartist

      willard is a pussy. you can tell by the way he walks.

      he is a lying punk just like lyin’ ryan.

    • DukeDacat

      “the audience applauded, and Romney was left sputtering”

  • DukeDacat

    “the audience applauded, and Romney was left sputtering”

    This pretty sums it all up.!!!

  • The biggest difference between Obama and Romney is this: Romney loves America, Obama loves himself! Romney has demonstrated his love and compassion for America through five decades of public service and missionary work. Obama points to his “community organizing in Chicago” (for a very short period, I might add, as he made necessary connections to usurp political power for himself! Ask any urban youth or family from the ghettos of Chicago what Obama “organized” or how he has improved their lives, and they wont’t have an answer or merely point to food stamps. The difference for me is clear, I’d rather vote for someone who loves America… and not a vainglorious power seeker.

    • nobsartist

      willard loves money and would sell you out for a nickle.

      your guy got his lying butt kicked.


      • Romney obviously cares about money and success, no doubt. But you missed something that’s very interesting and even compelling. This guy is worth roughly 250,000,000. I think we all know that. Now, what’s interesting is that people who are as good as Romney was at his business are all billionaires many times over today. Romney made the decision to turn all of that, which he very could have today, away for public service, which pays nothing compared to what he made. Now, I’m not a Romney supporter, but I do believe that says quite a bit about his genuine desire and dedication to making a difference in this country.

        • nobsartist

          or he is hiding it in Chinese banks where he does all of his business.

          lets see the tax returns.

          willard is hiding something.

          If he wants to help America why did he send all of those jobs to China and what is he doing being a business partner with the RED CHINESE ARMY?

          ting bo dong

    • Yes missionary woerk in France to evade the draft. Love foer his country, HA. Parading around as a fireman and a policeman is not showing respect for the true American policeman or fireman. Romney is a joke and he is the candidate who wants to take our Social Security and Medicare and put it in control of the KOCH brothers as well as Bain CaPITAL SO HE CAN MAKE EVEN MORE MONEY OFF OF THIS. [ I TYPE IN LARGE PRINT BECAUSE I AM HANDICAPPED AND 74 YEARS OLD][I USED TO TYPE 45 WORDS PER MINUTE, BUT NO MORE, JUST HUNT AND PECK.]

  • Joe Narusiewicz

    Romney was exposed for being worse then George Bush and totally linked to him. The women issues, saving the auto industry and immigration will win Ohio and Virginia for Obama….RACE OVER!

    • We still have one more to go and if Obama can win two out of three he is a winner

  • nobsartist

    Let me ask all good republiCONs out there-

    Do you like the fact that your party is run and financed by the John Birch Society?

    A simple yes or no answer will do.

    • LOL

    • DukeDacat

      The sad answer to your question is:
      most of these people do not have a clue what the “John Birch Society” stands for or what it is trying to accomplish


      Do you like the United States of America ran by muslims???

      Maybe you can vote to let more of them in our country—they are taking over

      Man arrested in plot to blow up Federal Reserve bank in New York

      Let’s just keep letting allll the muslims in our country so they can keep trying and accomplishing to blow up our buildings

      Lets see—-What’s his name: Quazi Mohammad Rezwanul Ahsan Nafis—Oh, how American

  • nobsartist

    I like how willard tried to take credit for saving the auto industry.

    After all, he had a draft Dodge that worked trouble free for 5 years
    and his tax Dodge that has run strong for 27 years.

    • I am surprised Romney even brought up his missionary work in a very Rich France and living in a very RICH house. I think his missionary work stinks. He ws a draft dodger as well as a policeman ansd fireman playing these jokes when it wasn’t even halloween.



        Say something that matters to the election

  • I knew Obama would get on the right track and use all the things Romney was saying, even the poor math Romney laid on the people and they all saw it. Obama was the winner.

  • ObozoMustGo

    Romney once again destroyed Obozo, and the survey of objective and undecided voters proves it. Even the leftist freak lap dog Wolf Blitzer admitted it when he started to review the internal numbers of the post debate polls. Romney was way more capable and knowledgeable than the typically unprepared and lying snake Obozo. Obozo is just lucky that Romney chose to not chop the snake’s head off in this debate by discussing the real purpose behind the Benghazi cover up — that the Obozo regime has supplied American arms to Al Qaeda in Libya to take down Qadafi, and they are doing the same now in Syria. All the while claiming that Al Qaeda is dead, while exactly the opposite is true. They planned a coordinated attack on our Ambassador and killed him along with 3 other Americans. The truth will come out once the state controlled media realize that they are hitching their horse to an incompetent, narcissist loser like Obozo.

    Romney in a landslide!

    What Romney did to Obozo AGAIN last night. [click image to enlarge]

    Have a nice day!

    “The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency…Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.” – Czech Republic newspaper Prager Zeitung

    • nobsartist

      you are listening to the drug addled pedophile, rush too much.

      willard got spanked and between him and his punk nazi are down 20 points NATIONWIDE.

      Get ready for President Obama being re-elected by historic margins and your party being flushed down the toilet like the terds that they are.


      • ObozoMustGo

        You’re an artist? bwwwaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahah…. you certainly write like a freak that paints all day long.

        artist = codespeak for “has no real talent or ambition and expects everyone else to pay for their existence”

        Romney in a landslide! Perhaps that will wake you up to see the real world, not the leftist freak fantasy world you currently live in.

        [click image to enlarge]

        Have a nice day!

        “Don’t go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first.” – Mark Twain

    • DukeDacat

      Hey Obozo, the way the world viewed the debate:

      • “the audience applauded, and Romney was left sputtering”

    • Dave

      Apparently under the bridge where you live in trolldom you have not seen the polls from last night’s debate.

      Romney lost every last poll. Every single one. Even one of the Republican-heavy polls — he lost that, too.


    NEW POLLS——–



    • nobsartist


      republiCONs are being flushed away like terds in a toilet.

    • Dave

      And what poll is that? Gallup? Look at the Gallup crosstabs:

      East: Obama leads four.

      Midwest: Obama leads four.

      West: Obama leads six.

      South: Romney leads twenty-two.

      That explains the whole poll for you, and shows you why it doesn’t help Willard. He needs to win Ohio, New Hampshire, Wisconsin, Iowa, and Nevada. None of those states are in the south.

    • old_blu

      CNN’s survey of registered voters showed Obama topping Romney 46 percent to 39 percent.* CBS News polled undecided voters, but the outcome was largely the same with the president again besting his Republican challenger by 7 points, 37-30. The remaining 33 percent saw the debate as a draw.

    • nobsartist

      NEW POLLS—-


      willard the rat—-41

      willard and ryan are losers.

  • nobsartist

    I yearn to be led by a draft dodging tax evader who grew up in a house in Bloomfield Hills with a swimming pool fed by a waterfall in the living room.

    • ObozoMustGo

      You learn to be led by anyone else willing to take responsibility for your own needs out of your own hands. Just like every other lazy mendicant like you does.

      Have a nice day!

      “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” – Ben Franklin

      • nobsartist

        and you no doubt voted for the AWOL coke head that lied us into 2 wars, was convicted of war crimes and tried to bankrupt our country, twice.

        So what do you know?


        • Hey, Clinton’s not that bad…


    • Well, I would say that your first task on your getting-real-agenda should be to stop falling for that unspeakable, cynical lie perpetrated by your beloved elected officials, on both sides of the aisle, which blames hard working Americans for the horribly treasonous, back stabbing act of our government by allowing insanely greedy financial elites to practically destroy the entire monetary system of this country in the most craven, outrageously reckless, selfish and despicable manner I’ve ever seen in my life time.

  • It’s a tough call on whether or not we’d believe Mitt if he laid out his plan….since he never has.

  • leoneg

    I think it is so important that everyone support our President. He took back the ground that he may have lost in the first debate. Thank God for second chances, the next debate has to say alot about the voters. We have to demand a true account of what both canidates will bring to the office. Please do not get it twisted I’am a Barrack Obama supporter 100%!!!!!!!!!!!!! But he can only do what we let them do, LETS GET WHAT IS DUE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THIS SECOND TIME AROUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Yu-Yin Ling

    The president fights for jobs? Cumulative 4 years massive unemployment rates, denial of welfare and benefits to many needy families. Jobs still being lost in droves. Yes, Obama has done wonderfully, Our deficit has spiked, we are indebted to a communist nation. But, to really paraphrase many Obama supporters, he’s black, so he has made no faults and not screwed this country up more, and failed as a president.

    • nobsartist

      willard is in bed with the RED CHINESE ARMY and is hiding his tax returns.

      But I guess thats the normal way of doing business where you come from.

      PS- why are you here? willard sent all the jobs to where you are from.

      ting bo dong


  • dalnb

    Does anyone know how Romney would have answered the question on Equal Pay for Women if he had answered? He went off on a tangent saying he had appointed several women to his cabinet when he was elected governor. He also said he reduced the states budget;- – – ANY CHANCE he did that by hiring women and paying them less he paid the men? Could that be why he talked around the question but never answered it?

  • dalnb

    Romney went on a mission just as his sons did. I guess that counts for them – BUT – I have known a lot of young men who did their missions and also served in the military. It is a personal choice but when a person alleges to be such a strong American and deeply dedicated to the best interests of the nation you would think he and/or his sons might have at least enlisted in a reserve unit.

    • nobsartist

      I like that story about Sargent York. A conscientious objector, he was still awarded the Congressional Medal Of Honor.

      willard is a sissy, cowardly draft evader and as they say, “the apple dont fall far from the tree.”

      His sons are all cowards too.

      • dalnb

        Enlistment in the military under the All volunteer concept is a personal decision made by most after a lot of consideration. Many enlist due to a feeling of patriotism, many for a job, today a large percentage for the financial benefits for education. When I enlisted (first time) we were under the draft; I enlisted because I wanted to spend a career in the military inspired by many relatives of World War II and Korea. In my years and years of service I met men and women from all over the country. I met numerous enlisted and officer personnel who had been on missions and I do not recall any offering any reasons for military service different than any other person.

        It is a personal decision but I would have to think a person who wants the world to honestly believe they are as patriotic as the Romney family wants us to believe at least one or two of them would have served our country in the military.

        Talk is cheap; actions speak with far more credibility! I always liked the saying; Don’t tell me what you can do, show me what you have done!

        Obama= Of the People, for the people. Romney= Of the Wealthy, for the Wealthy!

  • Gammaanya

    He also lied about the hiring women for his cabinet – IT IS A LIE. I lived in Mass for 7 yrs (before Romney) but my friends stilllive in Mass and They told me it’s a BS what he said in debate. He left the state in debt, raised fees on everything he could and he did NOT RUN FOR 2ND TERM because he knew that HE SCREWED UP. He is a screw ball and will win.

    • nobsartist

      willard seems to leave a trail of lies whereever he goes.

  • S-3

    Though second debates don’t have much of an effect on these kinds of things, ty wa fun seeing our President kick that corporatist’s ass… What mateers now is if that ass-kinking can translate into votes for the President and not the corporatist scumbag…

    It was also nice to see the moderator put Romney in his miserable, lying, greedy place a little, even if that is cheating a bit… But still, when you’re looking out for the many over the few, you take stands where it fucking counts!!

  • You know what I think is really odd? Romney keeps refering to “HIS” state like it is something to be proud of…but he is losing “HIS” state by 15 points. So the only people who have actually experienced his leadership are overwhelmingly in favor of someone else. I think the Pres should call him on his BS and ask why the people of MA are just not buying his line of crap. “How is it GOV?? that “Your” state is sooooooo sure they don’t want you to be potus???” I mean 15 points and climbing??? how is that “YOUR” state?

    • nobsartist

      which state is his state? in fact, which country is willards country?

    • That’s actually a pretty compelling point. But don’t forget that Massachusetts is probably the most liberal, democratic state in the union.

  • EXPOSED!!!!! That’s what happens when a fool puts his foot in his mouth. Romney went all out in the first debate saying the most ridiculous things and manufacturing statistics, saying what he would do and what he wouldn’t do, not knowing he would have to answer to those things later on if he tried to morph himself to fit what was advantageous to his campaign, and he got EXPOSED. He was caught in mid-morph on China. He was caught in mid-morph on women ( and by the way, Republicans/Tea Party, and Ryan abhor affirmative action, and he correctly described affrimative action when he requested his “binders full of women”. Brilliant). He was caught in mid-morph on the immigration issue (which he revealed how illegal aliens will be forced to self-deport, by deprivation, disadvantage, and discrimination, the same thing they are doing to Africans in America). He was caught in mid-morph on the tax issue, and he was blasted out of the water with the Libya thing. In any debate, you need facts to back up everything you say, and if Romney reveals any of his sources to support anything he says, he and they will get EXPOSED. Watch what will happen Monday. Romney will be called out as a war-monger on the Syrian civil war, which is really a religious war between Islamic factions, and the Israeli/Iranian conflict brewing in the Middle East that Romney says can’t be ignored. Not one of his five sons will go to fight in any of those wars. Our sons and daughters will. His sons and daughters will profiteer off of it as “contractors”, and will siphon billions of tax payer’s dollars from it while the economy crumbles and we suffer. So, Romney got exposed last night, and Monday will be the icing on the cake. Stay tuned. And, VOTE!!!!!!!!!!

    • nobsartist

      willard got “rope a doped”

  • The President was on the mark. He was aggressive, animated and had command of the facts. He also didn’t get flustered. When everything is said and done,a big night for the President.

  • ridemybroom

    I just wished OB could have colcocked that arrogant bastard…too bad i am not at one of these debates or i would have to ask romney why he has no respect for OB….then i would have said you are a racist…of course we all know he is…the whole clan is ….its time to vote these people out of the senate and house as well…we know Ob is gonna be voted back in so now lets get these other OB haters out as well…they have no need to be there none whatsoever and i can see them all shaking now…wringing thier hands and saying what are we gonna do now…what are we gonna do…as far as im concern you can all just go shoot your racist selves in the head and be done with it…!

  • Go President Obama! You’ve got my vote!! Obama/Biden 2012!

  • President Obama was born in Hawaii. His mother was an American Citizen who married a Kenyan. In the four years that President Obama went to school in Kenya (there were only four) two of those he attended the St. Francis of Assissi Catholic School and two of those were at a public school that said Christian prayers at the beginning of the school day. His official birth certificat has been put on television and the internet and a certified copy was shown to donald trump. If people are completely wrapped up in a lie, they refuse to see the truth. The ninth commandment says, “Thou shalt not bear false witness.” the Bible also says that if you break one commandment you break them all. Repeating lies is bearing false witness.

    President Obama’s religion: He attended the Trinity United Church of Christ (same church John Quincy Adams attended) until he joined Reverend Wright’s Baptist Church in 1988. In 2008 he left that church. The family now worships at Southern Baptist ceremonies at Camp David every week.

  • I think Obama does not watch MSNBC(Ed, Rachel, Lawrence and Chris), I do watch
    them online from the Netherlands. He could have won the first as well had he
    seen some of Mitt position changing moments. But Mitt watch Fox and I also watch
    fox online. During the first debate he took few lines from fox talking points,
    example that he never proposed any tax cut of trillion dollars.

  • Mitt. You will never be our Prez.

  • deke4

    I am still amazed at the Lilly Ledbetter question posed to Romney and his divergence from giving a direct answer to a simple yes or no answer, he swerved to binders. What a klutz.