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Tuesday, September 27, 2016

Occupy Wall Street protesters will hold an “Occupy Christmas” 24-hour vigil at Zuccotti Park beginning late on Christmas Eve, hoping to inject the perceived moral authority — and mainstream cultural appeal — of Christian faith into the cause, much like Civil Rights leaders did to great effect in the 1960s.

Christmas will be the 100th day since the movement’s birth, and though the mass evictions that rippled through the country last month damaged its ability to control the national conversation (and influence Democratic politicians) via appeals to traditional media, Occupiers want to draw attention to economic inequality at a time of mass consumerism, and also appeal to Christian values like charity and even socialism.

  • NaturalOrganicClothes

    I am 61 one years old, a practicing Christian, female and have been in the military. I am now creating a new Internet business, therefore still very active and productive. I am totally in support of the occupy Wall Street movement and pray for them daily in their success. Until this nation provides healthy food and comfortable living environments for every citizen and visitor we are a failure as a nation. A job with adquate pay to support a family and enough time off to meet the social needs of that person and family. Education and health should be the responsibility of the government and not pinch pennied so that our nation can grow strong and productive. Poverty costs this nation morally and physically and breeds more poverty eventually killing off the very independence we value.

  • wlnorman

    After changing and adding/deleting as many “things to protest” as they could think of, OWS has returnedfull circle back to the “lobbyist”, anti- establishment, “culture jam” small group it started with in Canada. It keeps moving to a lower and lower level. They protest against “lobbyist” as if they do not understand that they ARE lobbyist. The difference is that almost all lobbying is “for” something specificsome “imagined” thing that they can’t settle on let alone put it into a concrete objective beyond disruption and confrontation. As soon as donation stop and authorities recognize that OWC deserves nothing more or less than any “demonstration/protest deserves under normal permits and regulations, OWC mobs will die way and go somewhere else to get support to livev on or make a blog name for themselves.

  • JonathanHughes

    Christmas does not have us look to Jesus, and his character at all. We end up looking at idols of a tree,and statures that are as lifeless as Baal the bull god, and Molech the cow god or the golden calf that Moses ground to powder after he came down from mount Sinai seeing a glimpse of the glory of God. He had the Israelites drink tainted water with Gold dust in it. We are gawking at the gifts the devil gives,and not beholding Jesus at all. Santa claws does not embody any of the saving characteristics of Jesus, and he did not do any of the things Jesus did for us. Santa wants to take the place of Christ. Only one being wants to do this, and that is Satan trying to look like a good guy. Santa’s letters rearranged is Satan, and when you look at the name that way is is Satan’s claws, and he wants to have them in all of creation. Satan wants us to be Google eyed at what man makes, and not at what God makes not beholding Jesus as he is to be changed into his image for in the day a human does that the devil does not have that soul. Satan wants the world to be complacent thinking war will never end. Don’t behold Jesus as he is having him in you, and war, and persecution will never end. Santa loves fire hence the fire place he is said to come down, and Santa is said to be at the north pole too. Gods throne is in the north. Satan wants to give fire. Gods light will be seen as fire to those that want to give fire. That is what hell really is to those that chose to not be like Jesus is. God gives heavenly gifts that last forever, and Santa gives gifts that corrode, rust, fall apart, tear,wear out going back to the dust like everything else on this planet of death with toys having batteries in them that wear out.

  • sarahg

    I also support the Occupy movement and think it is high time we had our revolution. This country has turned into a place where the people are dominated by legal and financial extremism. It’s clear that the only thing that matters to those who run this country is protecting wealthy elites and stabbing Americans in the back and dominating them with legal fundamentalism, which is designed to keep people submissive and protect the interests of capital. Our revotion should include a protestant reformation of the legal system as well and break the back of that inhuman beast that seeks to keep us down and divided… This country has grown entirely too big, too powerful to the point that it’s not even a human place anymore–and is quite an ungly, coarse and unfriendly place.

  • JonathanHughes

    The heavenly gifts are made without hands. heavily gifts give love to humans that humans easily gravitate to giving hate to like zoosexuals for example. Give them a hug. That is a heavenly gift. Humans who like sex with younger humans need that heavenly gift too. Do good to them not giving them an evil eye, and in your loving heart accept a human without their idol on loving them too, and if the urge comes upon you hug them close. That is a gift given to them too. Those are gifts no one can wrap, but are of great value giving good things both to the the one receiving them, and the giver as well. Then come the gifts the Physical body needs by reason of the Physical condition our body is in at this point in time.

  • JonathanHughes

    The heavenly gifts are made without hands. Heavenly gifts give love to humans that humans easily gravitate to giving hate to like zoosexuals for example. Give them a hug. That is a heavenly gift. Humans who like sex with younger humans need that heavenly gift too. Do good to them not giving them an evil eye, and in your loving heart accept a human without their idol on loving them too, and if the urge comes upon you hug them close. That is a gift given to them too. Those are gifts no one can wrap, but are of great value giving good things both to the the one receiving them, and the giver as well. Then come the gifts the Physical body needs by reason of the Physical condition our body is in at this point in time.

  • Hankk

    Hurray for the OCCUPY WallStreet Group, I wish that I could be there and we pray that the city allows this to happen. The Evangelicals need to know that there are many other and older religion’s, and most of them have been around for hundreds of years. We as Democrat’s for the last 10 years have been part of the FIRST AND OLDEST CHURCH KNOWN TO MAN,(GREEK ORTHODOX)FOR 73 AND 69 YEARS, however we have never dis-honored our constitution by mixing our religion with politics and I sorrowfully can not say that for Evangelicals. We say Merry Christmas to all of you and may God follow you though this weekend as you honor his beloved son. hankk, MI

  • therelentlesstruthseeker

    If Jesus, “the original radical activist,” were to make an appearance today, or any other day; I would gladly join him in his just cause without any hesitation whatsoever.

    However, members of my immediate family have spoken adamantly against my quest to assist others in feeding the hungry today. So, I very hesitantly have agreed to stay put for Christmas Day only. However, the remainder of the year belongs to peaceful radical activism.

  • orkneylad275

    While the OWS demonstrations have been on the whole peaceful, it is difficult to say that they have been conducted according to the teachings of Christ. In fact, the New Testament warns those professing Christianity that there will be false prophets claiming to proclaim the Gospel.

    Now, since even Satan can quote scripture, the only principles that Christians might wish to consider are those attributed directly to Jesus, namely these: (1) Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s; (2) “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”

    Many, if not all, the complaints OWS have raised have not been directed at individuals, but at institutions. Christ, however, brought the Gospel not to institutions, but to individuals.

    There seems to be a disconnect here. Should one expect Goldman, Sachs or Bank of America to act according to Christian principles? What evidence have OWS that (1) the individuals who claim to be Christians and who work for the presumably guilty firms are the ones who are responsible for the acts and policies OWS oppose? (2) that those responsible for those acts and policies profess to be Christians?

    That they should act according to the law (BoA having just acceded to a consent agreement by which it will pay some $300 million for the misconduct of CountryWide), may coincide with the Christian principle of Caesar-rendering, but there is not necessarily any connection between the two.

  • tutidiez

    Occupiers I am so proud of all of you, unfortunately I am disable and can’t make it, but with the police attacking you it makes it twice as difficult, you are the only hope this country can be save from destruction and to become a thirds world Country where only a hand full of people owns all the wealth and the rest are poor, and that is what is happening in the USA, the more equal the wealth of the country is distributed specially if is a rich Country like ours the more powerful the country is and more beneficiary is for the majority even for the rich, the middle class are who moves the good and strong economy of the Country, it is unbelievable that so few in Washington with so much political power are so blind to this true, unless we take the money out of Politics and Lobbyist out of Washington the United States of America will never recover no matter who is in Congress or in the White House

  • orkneylad275

    Some of you may remember Christ being asked, “…when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give your drink . . .?” You may recall his answer, “Assuredly, I say unto you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of my brethren, you did it to me.”

    That puts the responsibility squarely where it belongs: on the individual Christian.

    Perhaps OWS will turn out at Easter or Pentecost, which would be more appropriate church festivals. At those times they could remind Christians of Christ’s sacrifice for the redemption of all humankind and the descent of the Holy Spirit on the 12 apostles, resp.

    If OWS wish to witness to the Jews, Passover would be an appropriate time.

  • orkneylad275

    “It’s pretty clear that first century Christians were Socialists,” said Balmer [Randall Balmer, a professor of American religious history at Barnard College].

    Perhaps to Professor Balmer, but he will many respected historians of the early church who have disagreed or do disagree with him.

    This isn’t the place to sort out the political philosophy of members of the early church, but his belief is not self-evident and in the given context is merely an assertion with which one is free to accept or reject.

    Perhaps Professor Balmer knows a great deal about the history of the early church; his academic position, however, says nothing about his competence or lack thereof.

  • Cwalter

    Dear Friends,

    As I read of your struggle what amazes me is how the establishment is trying to deny you your First Amendment rights. Repressive governments frequently use public safety arguments to suppress dissent. You are getting this with the NYPD, and other police departments. This puts American democracy in an extremely negative light.

    How is the NYPD any different than the Polish police trying to suppress Solidarity? At this point, Occupy has been pepper sprayed, tear gassed and arrested. The same happened in Poland.

    My question is: When will the first fatalities occur? It is only a matter or time.

    My second question is: What political reforms are we pushing for?

    Shouldn’t the first order of business be the elimination of lobbyists? Second, order of business shouldn’t we eliminate political parties and their appartus? If the congress has a single digit approval rating shouldn’t we dissolve congress and start all over again. Run candidates without parties, at public expense only, and on the merits of their policy proposals. Wouldn’t this return government to the people?

    Shouldn’t we reform the judiciary? Shouldn’t we ask why the court ruled that a corporation is a person? Remember the first definition of the status of a corporation under English common law did not think that corporations should have the same rights as individuals. The judge at the time ruled that corporations could not inherit like a person.

    Think of the injustice we have today: can an average private person marshall the same resources as a corporation? Hasn’t this led to the dictatorship of the corporation, and isn’t this dictatorship what Occupy struggling against?

    My question is: How are you going to make a political impact? The establishment would like nothing better than to repress and ignore you. How are we going to mobilize our resources to overcome the establishment?

    I wish you the best, but you need to focus to develop a strategy and agenda to punch through establishment lines to return America so that it is “We the People…” again and not “We the corporation…”

  • namemale2

    A new suggestion I read recently was the birth of “Occupy Madonna” its a protest movement using she as a symbol similar to bankers taking a pay out and bonus-as during time of the economic collapse she managed to earn 400 Million touring while promoting Unicef and other crap-only the charity she pushed on the public to get them to become more giving failed after the F.B.I. revealed millions of donated dollars was spent in Malawi by her associates on golf and cars and the planned girls school was scrapped-during this time she bought herself a 35 million dollar New York abode, while owning homes in Miami and California and Great Britain, she let the girls school fail. Her brother was recently found HOMELESS in Michigan. The purpose of “Occupy Madonna” is to protest the lack of art in American culture or as it does exist it does not get cycled and it is to showcase the demise of the music business, while thousands of artist/creators go unpaid and out of work, Live Nation (which Madonna headlines) and Clear Channel they monopolize radio stations by corporate control and concert profits-the small roster of performers/entertainers getting radio play are becoming obvious. Madonna a known infringer of art and plagiarist seems to prevail by capitalizing on others work as well as a list of other players in mainstream music, all the while making it look “revolutionary” “liberal” and “pro-democratic”………remakes, unoriginal material, the advent of commercial teen pop has stifled much growth in the under markets and new trends are not surfacing as they get ripped off and abused by those whom can afford to take from them and capitalize. The vicious cycle grew worse in the 2000’s not better. The manipulation of homosexuals and charity is nothing short of a marketing scheme. Its time to take a stand and Occupy Madonna.

  • John Steinsvold

    An Alternative to Capitalism (if the people knew about it, they would demand it)

    Several decades ago, Margaret Thatcher claimed: “There is no alternative”. She was referring to capitalism. Today, this negative attitude still persists.

    I would like to offer an alternative to capitalism for the American people to consider. Please click on the following link. It will take you to an essay titled: “Home of the Brave?” which was published by the Athenaeum Library of Philosophy:

    http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/steinsvold.htm

    John Steinsvold

    “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.”
    ~ Albert Einstein

  • jimackermann

    What John Steinsvold is suggesting is nothing more than communism with a new face. He’s “putting lipstick on a pig”. It hasn’t worked in any country where it was attempted. He is absolutely correct, “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.”