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Thursday, September 29, 2016

In the aftermath of the massive tornado that devastated Moore, Oklahoma on Monday, President Barack Obama vowed that “As a nation, our full focus is on the urgent work of rescue and the hard work of recovery and rebuilding that lies ahead,” and told the victims, “You face a long road ahead, but you will not travel it alone. Your country will travel it with you.”

Apparently that sentiment is not shared by Oklahoma senator Tom Coburn (R). Just hours after the storm hit, Senator Coburn told CQ Roll Call that he would not support providing disaster aid to his own constituents unless it is offset by other federal spending cuts.

“The tornado damage near Oklahoma City is still being assessed and the death toll is expected to rise, but already Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK) says he will insist that any federal disaster aid be paid for with cuts elsewhere.

CQ Roll Call reporter Jennifer Scholtes wrote for CQ.com Monday evening that Coburn said he would ‘absolutely’ demand offsets for any federal aid that Congress provides.

Coburn added, Scholtes wrote, that it is too early to guess at a damage toll but that he knows for certain he will fight to make sure disaster funding that the federal government contributes is paid for. It’s a position he has taken repeatedly during his career when Congress debates emergency funding for disaster aid.”

On Tuesday, after Coburn’s stance attracted widespread criticism from both his constituents and the media, the senator’s office released a statement slamming those who charge that he is more concerned with ideology than he is with economic reality or the well-being of his constituents.

“It is crass for critics to play disaster aid politics when first responders are pulling victims from the rubble,” the statement reads, ignoring the fact that Coburn himself barely waited before announcing his preemptive opposition to the still-undefined aid package.

“Dr. Coburn has opposed disaster aid bills in the past because he believes disaster funding should be used to pay for disasters, not a wish list of parochial or backlogged priorities that have nothing to do with helping victims,” his office continued. “If an additional emergency aid package is necessary Dr. Coburn will not change his long-standing position on offsets.”

Indeed, Senator Coburn — a licensed physician who earned the nickname “Dr. No” for his tendency to block bills with which he disagrees — has a long history of opposing federal aid without offsetting cuts. Coburn voted to slash funding for Hurricane Sandy victims in December, arguing that it contained too much “wasteful spending,” and claimed in 2011 that funding FEMA without offsets would be “unconscionable.” Both of these actions stood in contrast to the long, but apparently faded precedent of Congress providing swift aid to their fellow Americans. So Coburn’s opposition to disaster relief for the Moore tornado is relatively consistent (although, as Think Progress points out, Coburn has occasionally supported federal spending without any conditions — including a vote for Hurricane Katrina aid).

Oklahoma’s senior senator, Jim Inhofe (R), declined to endorse Coburn’s position during a Tuesday morning appearance on MSNBC’s Morning Joe. Inhofe, who called the Hurricane Sandy relief bill a “slush fund” before voting against it, insisted that the situation in Oklahoma is “totally different.

“Everyone was getting in and exploiting the tragedy that took place,” Inhofe said of the Hurricane Sandy relief effort. “That won’t happen in Oklahoma.” Although he did not specify how he would keep others from “exploiting” disaster relief in the Sooner State, Inhofe’s comments strongly suggest that his opposition to disaster relief ends at the Oklahoma border.

Happily for the citizens of Moore, their senators’ controversial positions will not prevent victims from receiving some immediate help. White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said Tuesday that “right now, FEMA has sufficient resources” to respond to the disaster, and added that “the president has made clear that we will make sure Oklahoma has the resources that it needs, including the resources that have already been announced.”

AP Photo/Steve Gooch

  • Well he can go to Hedouble hocky sticks!!

  • kanawah

    Stick Coburn’s head in the spring and flush, repeatedly.
    At least until he stops kicking

    • I Really Hope The American People Wake The Hell Up And See Who These No Good Ass GOP/Tea Party American Taliban Members Really Are!!! They Are Nothing But Terrorists And Traitors To Their Own Country And Their Own People !!! 🙁

    • Agreed, but it’s a shame a turd like him will not go down the first time.

  • turtlewoman1039

    To a republican every sperm and egg is sacred, but after you arrive you are flat out on your own – if they have their way.

    I wish the disaster victims a speedy recovery. I also hope that the ‘family values’ voters who put him, and others like him, in office realize that the vast majority of republicans would not recognize the charity and love of the NT if it were thrown at their heads.

    • Good observation. From birth to death Republicans are out for themselves

      • Vazir Mukhtar

        I’ll lay odds that the Democrats no better than the Republicans. They may be better at disguising what they want for themselves.

        Take a look at the net worth of the 435 we’ve elected to Congress. How many can you find who are worth no more (1) now or (2) when they left Congress than when they first began to serve (chiefly their own interests).

        I can’t give you a reference off the top of my head, but you can Google or Bing the matter and have a look for yourself.

        Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Charles Rangel are handy examples of Democrats.

        Try McConnell for the Republicans. Can’t think of a representive — sorry.

        • realitychecku

          glad im not a rep or a demo.. but i do like laughing at how stupid both of you guys really are.. lol

          • CPAinNewYork

            By declaring yourself to be an independent, you’re falling into the “pristine voter trap.” There’s nothing wrong with partisan politics in a democracy. It’s the way things get accomplished

        • CPAinNewYork

          Your totally missing the point with your unsubstantiated suppositions.

          • Vazir Mukhtar

            Did you check the data, or is your assumption or supposition unsubstantiated?

        • susan russell

          I don’t know Reid or Pelosi personally but I know Charles Rangel. He would never sacrifice the well being of Americans and especially not his constituents over some bullshit political position (that doesn’t even make any economic sense). While he has made some mistakes and mis-steps,(we’re all human) he is a hard working man who cares deeply for the people he represents and would never even consider doing what these supposed Tea Party jerks or plain old Republicans like Coburn and Inhofe do and say. Rangel is a hero of the korean war and worked hard to go to school and achieve. He’s done wondrous things for his community and our country so shut up about him.

          • charleo1

            Kudos to you for writing that about Charley Rangel.
            An honest to God American hero.

        • sigrid28

          Yet the most wealthy member of the House of Representatives is, I believe, Darrell Issa, its grand inquisitor.

          • oldtack

            Estimated worth – $250,000,000.00

          • Terri Johnson

            And just listen to him, you know where he stands. He is a jerk and should be voted out of office.

          • CPAinNewYork

            Darrell Issa is a garden variety elitist prick.

          • RobertCHastings

            According to Wikipedia, there is one other Republican House member who is richer than Issa, I think his name is McCaul. In the Senate, the only person wealthier than Issa in John Kerry. The wealthiest 20 in Congress are evenly divided (10 – 10) between Republican and Democrat. Beyond that, the balance of wealth in Congress starts to bend heavily toward Republicans.

        • RobertCHastings

          I can think of a Republican representative who, according to Wikipedia, is the wealthiest man in Congress – Harold Issa. He has been quite a bit in the news lately, I cannot understand why his name did not occur to you. Of the 465 members of Congress (House + Senate), 150 have a net worth in excess of $1M, close to one hundred having over $10M. The wealthiest 20 are evenly divided between Republican and Democrat.The status of multi-millionaire appears to be fairly evenly divided between Republican and Democrat.
          Sorry, my bad. Issa is the THIRD wealthiest in Congress, Kerry is the second wealthiest, and a Republican Representative is the wealthiest.

          • charleo1

            Another interesting conversation! I’m going to need to
            pay closer attention. I could accidently learn something.
            I don’t think we should count their fortunes, aganist them
            if they didn’t need to blacken their souls to get it. Like Kerry,
            for example. Get a load of his wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry?
            I’ll bet she’s so high maintenance, he earns every penny
            of the bazillions she was worth, when he married her.
            There is no telling what our Secretary of State is made to
            do, when he gets back to the mansion. John McCain also
            married very well. He famously did not know how many
            homes he had. To be fair, he wasn’t sure if the rental condos
            were in his, or his wife’s, or their Pomeranian’s name.
            Mitt Romney made his money the way the cattle barons,
            and oil barons, or Wall Street barons made their fortunes.
            By chiseling it out of the hide of the working guy. And
            putting it safely away in Swiss Banks.

        • DurdyDawg

          That’s the nature of the beast Vazir, show me a country who’s g’ment isn’t corrupt and I’ll show you where Mayberry RFD is.. The difference in the Pubs and the Dems is vast as the Dems actually offer that trickle down program that the Pubs only brag about. This country’s jewels are the citizens and specifically the middle class.. Tell me who’s trying to eliminate the middle class? Who’s attempting to leave the old and the poor to fend for themselves? WHO is calling 47% of the country moochers and welfare queens? In good times, the majority of citizens work for a living, contribute in the progress of the nation, help the so-called job creators prosper.. In bad times we need to help those who can’t help themselves KNOWING that by doing such that when good times roll back around, they will be next to us with their sleeves rolled up contributing again toward the prosperity of the nation.. Which party thinks like this and which party would rather these helpless ones would just die off and contribute to the betterment of the wealthy? Yes, there’s corruption on both sides but when it comes to inhumane tactics, you can see the ones who do not care even though these same people contributed in helping make the elite and them wealthy.

          • Vazir Mukhtar

            I submit that the Republican party is dangerously divided: it is dangerous for the country and dangerous for the party itself. In stating that the money spent on disaster relief should be balanced by spending cuts Sen. Coburn is making nonsense.

            He and many of his colleagues do not understand that this is not the time to be so focused on debt reduction that they lose sight of the problems that must be addressed now, the debt be hanged.

            I agree that there must be a safety net for those unable — even unwilling — to provide for themselves. Certainly the Democrats have a better record for accomplishing more here than the Republicans.

            Furthermore, I believe that there are conscientious, concerned Republicans in the party. Alas, they are in the minority and do not speak as loudly or as often as their penny-wise, pound-foolish colleagues.

            I doubt that the Republican-dominated House will support programs to improve our interstate and other major highways, rethink and redo our electric grid, examine thoughtfully the war on drugs, the war on terrorism, a foreign policy that advocates our interfering where so doing is unlikely to be in our national interest, revision of our most unfair tax code which penalizes the many to the benefit of the few (but let’s not go after all who benefit from interest in dividends; consider the retirees and those soon to be retired who supplement and want to supplement their SS income with the earnings from their savings),among other pressing issues.

            In being one who tends to be socially liberal and fiscally conservative, I am out of step to all appearances with most who have posted to the Coburn story. You won’t be in the voting booth with me or see what I do daily (and I wouldn’t want you to); for when push comes to shove, I try to come down on the side of the “angels.”

      • game50

        .
        GET your head out of your a _ _ ….its the democarat that always scr _ _ the American people…go bk and read your American HISTORY…and wake up

        • RobertCHastings

          I guess you just glossed over the finer points of the article. Since it was written by a liberal (must be liberal if he wrote on this site, right?) it does not take into account the good, solid, Christian values of the RIGHT, which apparently declare If you live in a disaster zone and are struck by a disaster, you are s–t out of luck.

          • CPAinNewYork

            That sums it up very well. GOP = SOL.

        • angelsinca

          No need to be so harsh there agne50. Nearly EVERY one of (now) 28 comments seem like knee-jerk reactions to the title, not the article. Not many bothered to read it, it seems.

          • CPAinNewYork

            Angelsinca:
            I read both. The comments are well taken and address the article.

        • CPAinNewYork

          You are an idiot. Your comment doesn’t address the comments that preceded it.

          • game50

            Your the IDIOT…go bk and read it again…and until you know your history .. shut your mouth.

            Subject: Re: New comment posted on Oklahoma Senator Demands Spending Cuts In Exchange For Disaster Relief

          • Terri Johnson

            How can you tout this man’s horn when he will only provide disaster relief IF HE GETS SPENDING CUTS. There is no doubt he better not run again, for his constitutents who have no place to live, sleep, eat will surely remember his COLD CALULATING REQUEST. Most of the GOP are just like him. How much aide do you get from the government?

          • RobertCHastings

            The problem is, and probably will remain, if they have no place to live, eat, or sleep, they will no longer be legally registered to vote in his district, therefore, they cannot not vote for him, unless, of course, somebody comes along and bails them out. Coburn just had to look good for those he know would be in a position to vote for him, those who had an established residence in his voting districts, and by pushing the austerity thing, I am sure he will get the vote of most of the rest of Oklahoma.

          • Sand_Cat

            Unfortunately, I doubt if he has much to fear from his “constituents.”

        • susan russell

          In fact, it is you who need to read the history. If you study the finances, the deficit is always cut by democrats and blown up by republican presidents cow-towing to their rich friends. This is something that you can look up for yourself, although I have to admit that the Repub think tanks have been very effective in convincing people that the opposite is true.

          • susan russell

            I mean recent history – 20 Century. Prior to late 18 and early 19 hundreds, party labels meant different things.

          • RobertCHastings

            The REPUBLICAN party of Lincoln has morphed into today’s Democratic party, and vice-versa. Were Lincoln alive today, he would fit right in with the ideology of both Roosevelts, Clinton, Carter, Kennedy, Johnson, and Obama, and, quite likely, would have agreed with a lot of what Eisenhower had to say.

          • SCGuardian

            You are exactly right! Seems that certain right-wingers and their Voters disavow their Parties History before the mid-1900’s just like the Democratic Party does!

            “Truth in Advertising” doesn’t apply to Politics anymore than it does for Commercial Ads. Most of the times what is advertized is bunk or out right lies.

          • DurdyDawg

            Look at the grand hamburger ads and that will confirm your statement.. When was the last time anybody bought a hamburger as sweet looking as is on the boob tube? And then they go farther and tell you it’s a special 99¢ sale and actually give you a penny back but what happens when you actually buy that deal? That’s like the 99¢ store, truth in advertising should be the $1.08 store (lol).

          • SCGuardian

            Things started to change in the 1950’s and 60’s when certain factions of the Southern Democratic Party bolted and joined the Republican Party. Then there were those of the Neo-Nazi, Neo-Facist Parties and most of the Evangelist Ministers that joined the Republican Party. PS: Don’t forget that many of the KKK klansmen went also. History 101.

          • game50

            you need to understand …. American have the right to the pursuit of happen…if they just pay attention and do something with their lives and not depend on the government to make a life for them.

          • oldtack

            “Americans have the right to pursuit of happen” What is the pursuit of happen?”if they just pay attention and do something with their lives….

            Wow – so- something- I guess.

          • Dana Es

            My goodness — that’s what’s wrong with my life — I haven’t managed to find a “happen” to pursue. Knew I was missing something!

          • oldtack

            I awoke this morning with a mission. I am embarking upon the road in the pursuit of happen. Wish me well.

          • plc97477

            Good luck with that. May the force be with you.

          • plc97477

            Left me scratching my head also.

          • RobertCHastings

            Come on, folks, if we don’t have anything more to attack than his syntax, then we don’t have much, do we? We all know what “game50” was trying to say, albeit ineloquently phrased. Let’s disagree with what he meant to say, not with how he said it.

          • oldtack

            You’re right Robert

          • I can’t seem to find that Right articulated in the Bill of Rights. May I borrow your copy please? Oh I know, it’s up there next to the Right to Wear Red Ties.

          • Michael Kollmorgen

            DUH

            Pursuit of Happen?

            Please, let me know where you found that phrase?

            I had to take a double take on that one too.

            Emmm, me thinks you meant something like; you have the right to pursue “Shit Happens”! And, it WILL – believe me.

            Also, yep, you sure can pursue the right to happen. Only problem is, when you got your life blown away by a Tornado, there ain’t much left to pursue. Yep, you can pursue it, scraps of wood, maybe a picture frame here or there, even a family member a half mile away, usually dead too (If they can even be found).

            So, please tell us, how ya gonna “pursue” something like that?

            Then again, it hasn’t “happened” to you – YET.

          • CPAinNewYork

            Maybe the writer meant “happiness”?

          • Michael Kollmorgen

            Of course it was.

          • plc97477

            Maybe that many letters were too many for him.

          • That is propaganda designed to mask the evil reality of the right-wing’s true purpose. You may sound reasonable to the warped, but there is very little reality behind your statements.

          • CPAinNewYork

            The word is “happiness” you dumb ass.

          • oldtack

            In reading your article I yielded to the temptation to make wise crack remarks about the way it was written.. I knew what you were saying and I respect your opinion though we would have to agree to disagree. So -I Apologize for my remarks. They were inappropriate and should not have been put on the Forum.

          • Independent1

            Game50, you’re way off track. The TAKERS in America are REPUBLICANS!!! Of the 10 states drawing the most WELFARE money, 8 of them are RED STATES. Of the 21 states that have more than 15% of their people living in poverty, 19 of them are RED STATES. NOT ONE red state gets less federal funds to support it than it pays in taxes, and 4 RED STATES get more than $2 in federal aid for every $1 in income taxes they send to Washington. It’s all BLUE STATES that are really supporting the country, states like New Jersey and Mass get less than .65 in federal funds for each $1 they send to Washington – and BLUE STATES BY FAR send more tax money to Washington than Red States. Also, more than 75% of people needing to use food stamps live in RED STATES. Wake up Game50, you’re being hoodwinked!!!!!

          • Thank you. You are a very astute observer of reality. Every single time these people come to office, the national debt balloons, while they maintain that they are the party of “small government.” They lie a lot.

          • Republicans can always “claim” to spend less, because they in fact do not spend all that ballooning debt on the “common” people of the United States. They spend it on their rich benefactors, that is, their gods, and of course themselves. They just do not spend it on the average citizen.

            Trickle down, and all its proponents, be damned! The entire concept is Satanic.

          • SCGuardian

            Those elected within the Tea Party, obligated Taxpayers to Billions of Dollars of re-occurring money almost as soon as they were swore in. Almost all of the money “MANDATED” was for their special “PORK BARREL” projects at home!!!

          • SCGuardian

            Ever ponder WHO is involved in Think Tanks? Google or Bing the American Enterprise Think Tank in Washington DC. It will shock you!

        • Well I will point out the obvious – you can not spell or use spell check. As an American History major I can tell that you have read only the parts of American History that suits your narrative. I will give you an example – Rand Paul went to a traditionally black college and wanted the GOP to get credit for civil rights advances that happened post Civil War. He wanted the black students to forget the more recent civil rights history of the GOP; The current events where they tried to disenfranchise millions of minority voters.
          Before you start your rant I am a registered independent who votes for the person, rather than any party. I do not recall ever voting a strict party ticket. I do not think that all democrats are better than all republicans. I will say that the current GOP party platform violates my religion.

          • RobertCHastings

            You go, girl! I had not heard that about Rand Paul, although it fits right in with the Republican penchant for rewriting history. Just how far did he get with that argument? Did he get off the campus in one piece?

        • We have read history . . . and we have always been awake. That is why we know that Fascist s**t like you are full of lies, lack common decency, and have no empathy for their fellow humans. The term for this is: Sociopath.

        • roguerunners

          NEXT!

        • charleo1

          I couldn’t understand why you would choose this
          article to voice your opinion about Democrats. “Always,
          scr_ _the American people. Because, for one thing Tom
          Coburn is a member of the Republican Party. From OK.
          Where thousands, in his state, are homeless. Many are
          injured, and homeless., And some have lost family members,
          and are also injured, and homeless. Now Senator Coburn
          is a very wealthy man, himself. So, we can assume God,
          or fate, or whatever determines these things, has been very
          kind to Thomas Coburn. Some believe, because of this,
          alone, Tom Coburn has an even greater responsibility to his fellow man. Even if, he hadn’t sought the responsibility, by asking for, and being given, the job of making decisions in
          the best interests of the people in his State. But, that is the
          position Senator Coburn accepted. So, he has decided that
          in order for the United States to help his State, he wants to
          be sure that any monies to help the citizens of OK. Be
          taken from someplace else. Where will be the question
          that will delay the help. Unless, Senator Coburn would
          suggest, the hundreds of millions donated by the govn’t
          to the oil, and gas industries in the State of OK. would be
          a great place to find the offsets he insists on.

          • RobertCHastings

            Hey, sounds like a good place to start with austerity. There is another article on National Memo that shows GE (?) paying only interest on the taxes they owe, and not the taxes themselves. After the oil subsidies, we should go after all the other corporations like GE who are only paying the interest on their taxes. And then the farm subsidies paid to farmers to NOT grow anything on their land. I am sure we can come up with some more and then compile them for the White House petition site. Enough signatures there will get it at least looked at.

          • charleo1

            Since, they don’t want the wealth spread around. Maybe,
            the austerity, then? Whenever this Country has a man
            running for President, that’s worth on a bad stock day, a
            quarter billion dollars. That says, in his opinion, a part time
            worker, making $8.00 bucks an hour at Wal-Mart, still
            needs to pay some Federal income tax. Because the
            system needs to lower his rate, and broaden the base
            to include the little gal, driving an ’02 Ford Taurus, to
            her 30 hr. a week job, We know something’s really
            wacked! I’d need to look. But it seems in ’09 GE made
            something like 8/10 billion, and got money back from
            the government! Today, is the day of the corporate.
            They rule. Too big to regulate. Too big to tax, and of
            course, too big, to allow to fail.

          • RobertCHastings

            Unfortunately, not enough hoodoo was made about the Occupy Wall Street movement, which essentially brought to the light of day the excesses you speak about. Honest, legitimate, non-violent protestors occupied various areas of New York and other large cities around the country. In virtually all cases of violence, it was begun by the police. ALL the protestors had obtained proper licensing and official approval- those cases in which they were arrested for violating local ordinances, the ordinances were enacted AFTER the Movement began and the protestors were in place – sounds like an ex post facto law to me. Corporate America and their legislative supporters definitely did not like hearing what the protestors had to say and having it said before the rest of the world.

          • charleo1

            It’s interesting that you should mention the Occupy
            Movement. Because, I actually think they seemed to
            have slapped the Country’s consciousness back to reality.
            Whereas, there for a time all that was heard was, cut, this
            program, and, we can no longer afford to do that. And it
            was always the programs that helped the poor, or students.
            People who were out of work. And suddenly, there were
            these young people, living like the homeless, some of them
            probably were. Speaking up, reminding the Country, there were these huge inequities in a system intentionally skewed to favor the rich. Of course, the Right hated them. Especially the T-Party. Who were supposed to be this spontaneous uprising of common folks, worried about the cost of big government, and the National debt. But the Occupy movement unmasked them to a lot of their supporters, as being just another Fox News promoted, front group for the corporate lobby. So, they can be proud of themselves,
            wherever they are, or whatever their doing. Because, they
            managed to change the conversation of a Nation. And
            though, we may never know. Perhaps boosted the spirits of a
            young President. That in spite of one the greatest legislative
            achievements with healthcare reform. And setting a severely
            sick economy on it’s way to recovery. He had lost one half
            of his Congress. And, I can imagine some of his confidence,
            and, hope, for his agenda he would take up in his second
            term. And, I’m sure, the thoughts, that there might not be a second term. So, I’ll leave it to the scholars. But for my money. Occupy, may have set in motion the dynamics that propelled Barack Obama’s Presidency, to a second term.

          • RobertCHastings

            Very well stated. I agree with you 100%. At the beginning of the Occupy movement, it was treated by the media as just another blip, an interesting aside to the other daily news. But the kids involved in it had built up their experience from other such demonstrations around the world. A large chunk of them were those who had once been there and decided against it, and some who had never been there (well-enough off to not appreciate the needs of others). The did much more than rage against the dark, they brought to light those who would deepen the darkness, and, hopefully awakened or renewed what some of us seem to have lost since the flush of Obama’s first election. In the face of continued lying from the media and the right regarding the focus of conservatism and the direction this country is heading, I sometimes had my doubts about Obama and his agenda. Thanks to Occupy, and some research, I can now look at the right and see them for what they truly are.

          • Michael Kollmorgen

            While I have to admit, the Occupy Movement did seem to bring some problems to light, the efforts were token in nature.

            It fell apart way too easily. And, there hasn’t been that radical activism we seen happen years ago with this movement, not anywhere near it.

            If this movement represents the “revolutionary spirit” of our country, we’re all in deep trouble.

          • charleo1

            I tend to disagree, a bit. Not the part about the radical
            activism the Country experienced in 1967/68. Aganist
            the Vietnam war. But, the stakes were much more,
            personal. And, had the potential at least, if you happened
            to be a young man of a certain draft age. To end your
            life, almost before it had a chance to begin. In a conflict
            that had lost the support of the American public. With no
            end in sight. The issues the Occupy people were drawing
            the public’s attention to, were of a different nature. Having
            more to do with issues, such as wealth inequality. The
            growth, power, and influence of huge financial, and
            manufacturing concerns. That are essentially running the
            economic table. Driving people, and entire countries into
            bankruptcy. It’s harder to draw attention to issues, such
            as, possible corporate world dominance. And the inevitable,
            risks that presents to democratic, institutions. Where the power of the State is limited, by the Rights of the governed. And guaranteed, by the enforcement of the law. And flows from the bottom up. And not from a top down, centralized, entity. accountable to none but stockholders, and various monied interests. Already, I can just see your eyelids
            starting to get heavy. So, I think the leaders of the movement
            appreciated the fact, that if their actions were perceived
            as being anti-social, or destructive to public, or private
            property. Then, their actions would overshadow their cause.
            You recall the video, where the Police Officer calmly walked
            down the line, while he liberally maced a group of young
            people, as they sat motionless? A textbook example of
            peaceful, civil disobedience. In the end, the Chancellor
            of the university, on who’s campus the incident took place,
            was forced to resign. The issue was exploding tuition fees.
            Caused in large part, by deep cuts to universities, and colleges, by State Governments. That because of the recession, had had to make a choice between subsidies
            to large corporations in their State. Or funding education.
            And they chose corporations. So, it all ties together.
            But, I also tend to feel a bit differently about the capacity of
            Americans to pick their issues. And, measure their behavior, to match their cause. And, I don’t see Americans wanting
            radicalism, perpetrated by rash people. But, since Occupy,
            I have seen a definite awareness of the dangers we face
            with corporations. Buying, and controlling our government.
            Outsourcing our jobs, to totalitarian Countries that force
            their people to work at slave wages. Enriching those regimes.
            While refusing to pay, even half of what their policies are
            costing the Country, and the Government, back here in
            their own home Country. Because of their business practices. We could talk about the 501(4)c. being the
            method of choice of corporations that inject sizable sums
            into the political campaigns. Because, some of them have
            a very public face. And, supporting certain causes, could
            hurt business, if the public were aware of their donations.
            But, we’ll save that for another day. To you, and yours.
            Have a great Memorial Day!

          • Sand_Cat

            I think it’s Apple. Last I heard, GE didn’t even owe any taxes.

        • plc97477

          You would have to go a long way back in history but it is possible.

        • SCGuardian

          What American History are you reading? Abridged? Oh yes, Texas re-wrote their History Books to be more favorable to Texas. In doing so, they omitted anything negative to their State. They also rewrote some of American History that personally displease them including Jefferson and others of our Founding Fathers and those that followed them.

        • Independent1

          Game50, let’s go back a little in history to the time of the Big Depression. When FDR was fighting for the middleclass, the GOP even back then was fighting against everything he was trying to put in place, like Social Security. Are you old enough to be receiving it? if not, would you really want to do without it? Well, if the GOP had had it’s way since the Big Depression, there would be NO Social Security, there would be NO Medicare (the GOP fought against that during LBJ’s presidency), which of course means millions of seniors wouldn’t even have the Medicare Drug Benefit because Medicare wouldn’t be there.

          The GOP and Corporations have also fought against uniions, and whether you like or don’t like unions, unions are the only reason that people like me get PENSIONS; corporations would have never added pensions to their employees benefits without unions pushing for them so, if the GOP and corporations had had their way, people like me would not be living in retirement with a pension to SUPPLEMENT their Social Security – and quite likely, people living on 401Ks probably wouldn’t have those either – the GOP wasn’t particularly fond of even allowing those to get the tax treatment they do.

          So think back Game50, aside from Eisenhower pushing for the interstate highway system (and Ike was really not a TRUE Republican – he ran as a Republican because he didn’t like the way Truman was running things), but aside from Eisenhower (who by way had more recessions, 3, during his presidency than any other president), find me ONE THING, just ONE THING, that the GOP has done for America. Since Teddy Roosevelt, the GOP has not done ONE CONSTRUCTIVE THING FOR AMERICA;

          Find me one thing the GOP has done for America aside from during Eisenhower’s presidency, aside from starting wars to transfer wealth from the taxpayer to the rich barons involved in the defnese industry, or by passing unwarranted tax cuts to allow the rich to keep an unfair amount of their wealth, or pass legislation that channeled trillions of dollars into the pockets of businesses like Big Oil, or Big Pharma, or Big Agri-Business via subsidies. So I think it’s you Game50 that needs to wake up!!!

      • Yes, and they eat their wounded. Think how they treated Secretary Hagel at his confirmation hearings. What a bunch of chest-thumping troglodytes.

      • plc97477

        Oh and their wealthy donors.

      • SCGuardian

        And Some Democrats!

    • stcroixcarp

      I wonder if these Oklahoma redneck senators would be in favor of disaster relief if it were known that there are unborn babies among the victims of this super tornado.

      • Their concerns would evaporate if they learn that companies like Halliburton and Bechtel are going to profit from the rebuilding efforts.

      • RobertCHastings

        They would probably fall all over themselves if they learned a fertility clinic had been hit, destroying dozens of embryos.

      • Terri Johnson

        They do not care about unborn babies. I would like to ask each of them if they would be willing to take home any of these unwanted babies that they are so willing to be born without someone or somewhere to take care of them as they are “unwanted.”

    • Terri Johnson

      Well spoken – could not have said it any better. I still would like to ask the GOP if they would be willing to take any of these unwanted babies home, or would they rather seen them thrown in dumpsters, or lying around dumpsters, dead. Maybe they would be willing to have places where these mothers and their babies be taken care of – there are no children’s homes anymore. I just wish a reporter would have the guts to ask one of them this question. They would probably lose their job if they did, even though we practice free speech.

    • RobertCHastings

      It’s an ideology thing, far removed from a theology thing. I have honestly wondered what kind of president Jesus Christ would make. I don’t think that he would ever get elected by the conservative right, he would have to rely on the left, those God-hating, equality-loving peaceniks. The left has clearly demonstrated more of the values and characteristics associated with Jesus than has the right.

      • turtlewoman1039

        I agree. The reich wing would not recognize christ if he appeared to them. ‘Let him who is without sin cast the first stone’, ‘Love one another as I have loved you’ – not in their world view. Nor is the Good Samaritan who bound the wounds of a stranger and paid for his lodging. But, as their NT says, ‘by their fruits shall you know them’. They TALK about their ‘christian’ values, but their actions say something entirely different.

        I’m one of those un-churched lefties. But years of catholic school and Sunday mass exposed me to the NT. Frankly, it seems that I remember far more of the lessons of charity than the majority of the republican party or their base. Much the same for the progressives that I know.

        • RobertCHastings

          At 15, I experienced my epiphany, and it has stuck with me for 53 years. Like you, I remember the teachings of Christ and they don’t appear to be much in sync with the conservative right. Entirely too many people, Christian and Muslim, have their holy book dictated to them by their church leaders, and for the conservatives of both faiths their leaders invariably preach exclusivity, non-acceptance, and something just a little less than hatred for “otherness”, while preaching a narrow theology that really does not have much of anything to do with reality. Terry (whatever), the preacher from Florida who burned the Koran last year, was such a one. And, of course, our own military who found it necessary to desecrate the Koran in Iraq were born of such beliefs, although those were but a few. Amazing how conservatives can so completely conflate their positions.

  • Lynda Groom

    What a guy. I hope the good citizens of Oklahoma are paying attention to the man they are supporting. He is showing his true colors for all to witness.

    • Independent1

      Lynda, my hope is that they remember this come the next time Coburn comes up for election. Unfortunately, conservatives seem to have a very short memory.

  • Vazir Mukhtar

    Tom Coburn, like some other people, doesn’t know that it’s better to keep one’s mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and prove it.

    • The same goes for BOZO.

      Just sayin…

      • sassysticks

        lol! That’s all you Obama haters got – childish, ricidulous name-calling. You’ve got nothing else. Too funny.

        • You misunderstood. I would never call President Obama anything but President.

          You should read some of my quotes and my responses.

          BOZO is a nom de plume for some coward that uses Obozomustgo as his name. He is afraid to use his own name, so I call him BOZO. (Short for Obozomustgo.)

          As you may have noticed, I do not hide behind a fictitious name.

  • AdamMos

    God Bless the victims and survivors of tyhe Oklahoma Tragedy. God Bless the new Oklahoma Senator the next time Coburn has to run again. Talk about a career suicide!

  • ObozoMustGo

    Why don’t we just go with the leftist freak solution and borrow more money from China since we don’t have any of our own anyway? I can assure you that the good people of OK and all over America will be more than capable of dealing with this tragedy without Obozo spreading more borrowed money around. Last I checked, Obozo is about as welcome in OK as OJ Simpson at Nicole Brown’s parent’s house.

    One other point… for you leftist freaks to think there’s something wrong with demanding spending cuts in place of more important expenditures like disaster relief is nothing short of laughable. As though there isn’t any way that we could cut government spending on crap like studies of the mating habits of tsi-tsi flies, or on cow flatulance, or on ABUSIVE IRS AGENTS, or on any few of the thousands of ways the feds blow taxpayer dollars for nothing. Give me a break. You people are just down right too stupid for words.

    Have a nice day!

    Sen. Barack Obama’s Floor Speech, March 20, 2006 — “The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here.” Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.”

    • Justin Napolitano

      Obozo, the borrow from China thing is old hat. In fact China has cut back it’s lending and sold some of it’s American debt. The main provider of funds to the US treasury is the Federal Reserve and it is holding more debt than any other entity but the American public, which includes the Social Security and Medicare funds.

      • ObozoMustGo

        Nappy… that’s called “monetizing the debt” in case you are not familiar with the term. Look up “Wiemar Republic” or “Zimbabwe” or “Argentina” and correlate them with hyper inflation. I doubt you’ll get the hint though. Your mind does not comprehend such things.

        Have a nice day!

        “There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation…
        One is by sword…
        The other is by debt.”
        John Adams 1826

        • CPAinNewYork

          Obozo:
          You are a condescending buffoon.

          • plc97477

            But it does it so well.

        • Lynda Groom

          Hyper inflation. Hardly now or even on the horizon. The rate of inflation is a little over 1.5%.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Lynda… the process of the government issuing bonds to itself for creating currency IS “monetizing the debt”, you dope. Further, in case you’re the only one that does not go to the grocery store, food prices are up drastically in 4 years. The fact of the matter is that the 1.5% number you quote is the number that the corrupted government gives you, AND it just happens to be a number that DOES NOT include food or fuel. Who the hell doesn’t buy food and fuel?????? Duhhhhhhh…. The government manipulates that number specifically so that they can minimize automatic annual increases in entitlements like SS. The fact is that we cannot continue the printing presses without creating the effects of inflation which will inevitably come around. Any numbskull that does not understand this isn’t worthy of the oxygen they consume. Use your own brain. Think! Don’t just buy the standard BS that’s fed to you.

            Have a nice day!

            Sen. Barack Obama’s Floor Speech, March 20, 2006 — “The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here.” Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.
            Americans deserve better.”

      • plc97477

        I think a lot of our lenders made a beeline away from us when the government started talking about defaulting.

    • realitychecku

      kind of wish you were there when it was happening and we might not have gotten to see your words…to save a life…i don’t mind paying taxes.. idiots one day we are all going to die and i would guess at the end you are are going to be worried about your taxes… give me a break….

    • RobertCHastings

      So you agree with what Coburn said? And with what Ted Cruz said to the Sandy victims? And with what Senator Flake had to say about the Newtown victims? Really, OMG, how do you tell the victim of a tragedy to f— himself? Oh, excuse me, I think you just did!

      • ObozoMustGo

        Hasty…. don’t be so stupid as to think that I’m going to fall for that false narrative of you idiots on the left that if we don’t support your ideas for fiscal insanity that somehow we are saying f— you to the victims of tragedy. Nice try, but you leftist freak assumptions don’t fly with me.

        Rather, why don’t we cut out Obozo’s and Moochelle’s lavish vacations to the tune of $10’s of millions annually and allocate that to the victims? Why doesn’t Obozo have to sacrifice? Why doesn’t the government have to sacrifice in order to take care of the problem? Of course, to you leftist freaks, morons, and useful idiots, such thoughts NEVER cross your feeble and wasted minds.

        Have a nice day!

        “Government is a broker in pillage, and every election is a sort of advance auction in stolen goods.” – H.L. Mencken

        • susan russell

          Honey, without government, you wouldn’t be sending all of your ridiculous philosophy over the internet.
          and that’s just the beginning . . .

          • midway54

            His psychotic rages do not come close to being philosophical. He is just the kind of vulnerable target for which the plutocrats through their Operation Phornicate search and successfully saturate with pure bilge and is a good example of those in the vast body of nitwits who reliably run off and vote for rightwing stooges and simultaneously against their own interests.

        • susan russell

          And why are you such an a–hole about our president and his family? They are dignified, educated people and have been elected by your fellow Americans. Get a hold of yourself.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Obozo dignified?????? He’s dignified like Al Capone or John Gotti were dignified. All of them street thugs and criminals. And that wife of his, Moochelle, needs to be quit acting like she’s a damned entilted queen that blow tens of millions of taxpayer dollars on her multiple lavish vacations every 2 months. What a mooch she is. And Obozo’s corruption is coming to light in the trifecta of scandals that now surround him.

            Both of them should be in jail.

            Have a nice day! My advice to you is that you remain silent.

            “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than speak and remove all doubt.” – Mark Twain

          • With all your senseless blather and constant name calling, those of us who call ourselves LIBERALS and PROGRESSIVES know you are a fool. If you had remained silent, we might never have known.

            THANK YOU!!! You always bring a smile to my face – sometimes I have a hard time picking myself up off the floor from laughing so much at your stupid rants!

            It must scald you that there are so many of us, doesn’t it?

            By the way, we are working on legislation to allow President Obama to enjoy another term or two as POTUS. Maybe more if he wants it.

            I mean, that seems only fair, considering the GOP floated the idea for President Reagan, and they also wanted to change the Constitution so that Arnold Schwarzenegger could run for President.

            Have a nice day, BOZO!

            And, keep the hilarious rants coming. I look forward to them!

          • plc97477

            Hell, I think we should make him king for life.

          • Michael Kollmorgen

            Tell you what asshole!

            When there was the mob, we didn’t have all these murders as you see today by these gangs. You didn’t seen mass murders as in our schools either.

            The Mob, better known as the Mafia, had a tight reign on their members. Many of them were dam good people and benefited the community they lived in. Many played Robin Hood with a vengeance.

            We wouldn’t have all these crazy problems today if we didn’t get rid of them.

            And, to put it bluntly, I’d take a full-fledged Mafia Member any day over any Republican and/or Tea Party Member. They had Honor. You guy’s don’t.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Hey Mikey… I think you are romanticizing the Mafia based upon Hollywood movie portrayals. Doesn’t surprise me that a leftist freak lives in fatasyland. After all, you’re socialist ideology is all fantasy. The reality is that the mob was extremely violent and street level gang killings were common. So was extortion and intimidation. I suppose these are qualities of “civil society” that leftist freaks enjoy.

            By the way, the FACTS are that we actually have fewer mass killings today than we have had in the past. I know you leftist freaks don’t like to let facts get in the way of you’re phony beliefs, but it’s true.

            Have a nice day, moron!

            “In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.” ― Mark Twain

          • plc97477

            Some people seem to have a problem with Obama’s tan.

        • Vance Carter

          Fuck You
          Have a nice day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • ObozoMustGo

            Vance… I’m certain that your response was the most complex thought you could have put together for the day. Congratulations.
            Go back to your crack pipe now, boy!
            Have a nice high!

        • BOZO, Please keep up the insane rants!

          Without your “Glorious, Self Engrandizement”, I might go all day without any humorous antics at all.

          WHAT WOULD I HAVE TO LAUGH ABOUT?

        • RobertCHastings

          O, great BM, nobody ever said anything about going over some fiscal cliff in order to help the victims of the tornado outbreak. However, it is interesting that he and his fellow Republican had no problem asking for federal assistance over the explosion in West, after voting against aid for the victims of Sandy. Is it a Southwest thing, or a Texas thing, or what? They are at least consistent in their inconsistency.

          • plc97477

            I think it is just a gop thing.

        • Terri Johnson

          I don’t suppose Bush ever took a vacation. Oh, no, he just did not only put us into the Iraq war, but nonchalantly went on public television and “nonchalantly” said “he didn’t know where Osama was and didn’t care about going after him. Some GOP leader.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Hey dummy… Bush went to his own home in TX, not on extravagent luxury vacations seperate from his mooch wife’s luxury vacations with 20+ staff, 60 some odd “friends” and all the security required to go with it. Obozo and Moochelle act as if they are royalty and blow 10s of MILLIONS in taxpayer money for their outrageous and despicable lifestyle. I suppose they think they are “entitled” like so may leftist freaks living at the expense of other people.

            Have a nice day!

            “But how is this legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply.. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime.” ― Frédéric Bastiat, The Law

          • Much better to pay 10’s of millions for President Obama and his family to go on vacation than spend a COUPLE TRILLION DOLLARS starting two wars, etc.

            Just sayin..

            BTW Bozo, you should watch your blood pressure. Us LIBERALS seem to get your blood pressure up, what with all that pressure on you to create more exciting rants from you and your FRIENDS OF BUSH.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Obozo should go back to his illegally acquired house in Chicago for vacations. I suppose all this nonsense talk of his about people making sacrifices and “paying their fair share” garbage is more of the same old hypocrisy. But you leftist freaks love hypocrisy, especially Obozo’s.

            Have a nice day!

            “Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.” — Frederic Bastiat, French economist (1801-1850)

          • AdamMos

            You are right! Bush could not go anywhere because he would have been arrested , tried, convicted and executed for war crimes. Technically he was mentally on vacation for the whole second term.
            Have a nice day, loser

    • CPAinNewYork

      Obozo:
      How many corresponding cuts did you advocate to offset the cost of the Iraq war?

      • ObozoMustGo

        CPA… that’s easy. Let’s cut the following completely:

        Dep’t of Education
        Dep’t of Agriculture
        EPA
        HUD
        IRS (no need with flat tax)
        DHS (these thugs are the Gestapo, and we don’t need them)

        And every other useless waste of money at the Federal level. That would be a start.

        Have a nice day!

        “Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all. We disapprove of
        state education. Then the socialists say that we are opposed to any education. We object to a state religion. Then the socialists say that we want no religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Then they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. It is as if the socialists were to accuse us of not wanting persons to eat because we do not want the state to raise grain.” ― Frédéric Bastiat, The Law

        • CPAinNewYork

          Nice try, Bozo, but you’re not getting off the hook that easily. You know what I asked, so don’t try to “play dumb”.

          You’re advocating corresponding cuts to offset any new spending initiatives, so what corresponding cuts did you advocate when paying for the Iraq war came up for Congressional approval? It’s a simple question that’s really a rhetorical one, as its intent is to illustrate the GOP hypocrisy in the whole corresponding cuts argument.

          • ObozoMustGo

            I answered you. All of the other departments should be cut except Defense which includes FBI and CIA, Justice, and other smaller functions like border security. Since defense is the number one purpose of the federal government, it’s budget should be increased.

            Have a nice day!

            “Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all. We disapprove of state education. Then the socialists say that we are opposed to any education. We object to a state religion. Then the socialists say that we want no religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Then they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. It is as if the socialists were to accuse us of not wanting persons to eat because we do not want the state to raise grain.” ― Frédéric Bastiat, The Law

          • CPAinNewYork

            You evaded the question and you know you did, so I’ll ask it again: What corresponding expense cuts did you demand in exchange for the spending that starting the Iraq war would entail? Perhaps you figured that the war would pay for itself by enabling us to rape Iraq.

            Perhaps the war did pay for itself, except for the fact that all of the income went to Halliburton, not the United States Treasury.

        • Terri Johnson

          Who was running the government – oh, yes Bush, but he did initiate No Child Left Behind and if you have any educators in your family or listen to an educator you will here and find out that that was a waste, of time, energy and most of money. I have a few family members in my family and I am forever asking them what did the GOP do for them. They have jobs, graduated from College are somewhat affluent, but they did not get that from the GOP. My husband and I helped them, they worked for half their college education, so I can’t understand them. My only hope is that if they ever have a disaster in their life, they surely will not get any help from the GOP and will finally realize where the government for the people are.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Terri… you old fool. It’s NOT the government’s job to “help people”. Where did you ever get such a stupid notion? Have you been on the dole your whole life? Where do you think the government gets the money from to “help” people? They steal it from productive people like your family members who worked for what they have. Only, in the case of the government, what they really do is steal a dollar from a productive person, snatch 90% off the top for themselves, and maybe give 10 cents to the people that need it. If this were a charity and they asked you to donate but told you 90% goes to overhead, you’d tell them to get lost and get off your property before you had them arrested. Why then do you support such terms at the point of a gun and the threat of imprisonment from the government?

            Don’t be so damned stupid and blind.

            Have a nice day!

            “Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state lives at the expense of everyone.” ― Frédéric Bastiat

    • Allan Richardson

      WE, as in our country, has plenty of money, but it gets stuck in the pockets of the very wealthy, who refuse to pay taxes that provide the infrastructure of law and order that make their wealth possible. Meanwhile, the WORKING people who actually CREATE the prosperity are getting less and less of what they earn with their labor; it goes to their bosses instead of them. Then their bosses complain that nobody buys their products! Money needs to circulate, and in order to recover from disasters, it needs to circulate QUICKLY.

      • ObozoMustGo

        Allan… with every post you make, it’s becoming more and more clear that your intent is to reach intellectual rock bottom, and then keep on digging. You’re post is so filled with phony cliches, jam packed into a small paragraph, it’s comical. Any useful idiot and leftist freak could come up with such cliche’s such as “wealth refuse to pay taxes” but it’s simple NOT true. Like so many of the leftist idiots out there, you believe in cliche’s and ignor facts. If you can stomach some truth, here is a link for you to get at just the facts of the case, with cross links to sources of government data.

        http://www.justfacts.com/taxes.asp

        By the way, moron, it’s not “working class” people that create wealth. It’s industrious people from ALL walks of live that create wealth by developing an idea for a product or service that others are willing to pay them for. If they are fortunate, they can grow their business to a point that will allow them to leverage the labor of others for their wealth generation. The point of the business is NOT to employ idiots like you, it’s to make the owners rich, you dope.

        You must be a dumbass government employee or a union thug laborer or just another useful idiot living on the dole with the belief that you’re entitled to a living off the labor of others. You cannot possibly be anything other because an idiot that thinks like you is an idiot that cannot survive on his own.

        Have a nice day!

        “Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state lives at the expense of everyone.” ― Frédéric Bastiat

    • See, Bozo, you failed to mention REAL cuts. So I took the liberty of naming a few.

      First,cut the military budget by at least 10%. Then cut corporate welfare by at least 40%. No, make that 60%. Cut ALL exemptions and tax breaks for shipping jobs overseas. Cut all corporate tax breaks by at least 75%. Cut out the upper limit on Social Security taxes, the same with Medicaid, etc.

      See, those cuts won’t hurt the middle class as much as the Koch Head brothers, all the so called corporate “Job Providers”, the extremely wealthy, etc. So they will NEVER be considered.

      However, I bet you would scream and throw a “Hissy Fit” if they were proposed.

      So, I added a little “Candy.”
      ADD tax cuts for improving job creation, wage increases, benefits, training, etc.

      I can’t wait for your Faux Intellectual jab at me.

      Et tu, Brutus?

      Have a nice day.

      • ObozoMustGo

        Jimbo… I forget. I think you told me before. You’re a government employee, right? You must be because somehow you’re too stupid to actually understand math, or the simple concept that a person’s earnings ARE HIS EARNINGS, NOT GOVERNMENT’S. The fact of the matter is that what you call “tax breaks” for business is simple accounting in most cases, you moron. Like gross income minus what you leftist idiots call “tax breaks” like electricity to run a building, wages and benefits paid to employees, rent on offices, computers, amortization and depreciation on assets that were capitalized, etc. etc. What kind of idiot thinks those are “tax breaks”?

        On the issue of corporate welfare, where it exists, like bailing out automakers or banks, there should be NONE. We agree. In fact, there should be NO WELFARE whatsoever even for individuals. Get rid of all of it. It’s all immoral.

        Further, we should simply have a flat tax. Everyone pays the same rate. No duductions. That’s fair. Everyone treated the same. Same goes for business taxes. Make them flat and paid on net income.

        And begin by phasing out SS by allowing young workers to opt out of the Ponzi scheme that is SS run by corrupt politicians.

        Have a nice day, you dope!

        “Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.” — P.J. O’Rourke, Civil Libertarian

        “In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money as possible from one party of the citizens to give to the other.” — Voltaire (1764)

        • BTW BOZO, the only time I was a government employee was the time I served in the military.

          If you ever served, we might have that in common. Otherwise, probably not.

          Certainly not our political views. Or anything else that comes to mind.

          Have a nice day, BOZO.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Jimbo… thank you for your service! I mean that sincerely.

          • THANK YOU.

          • ObozoMustGo

            You are welcome, Jim! All acrimony, insults, and disagreement aside, have a great Memorial Day weekend! Rember those who have paid the ultimate sacrifice that allows us to fight like cats and dogs, and occassionally make fools of ourselves in open forums.

            Regards,

            OMG

    • AdamMos

      Leftist Freaks, idiots, stupid? You forgot one very important thing. We are in control! WE WON – YOU LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      Your silly and hatefilled rants are only helping us. Keep it up- thanks for the help. I guarantee anybody on the fence after reading your posts will definetley side with us. 1,000 Thank Yous. Please post more!
      Have a nice day, Loser!

      • ObozoMustGo

        You aparently have not heard of this thing called The House of Representatives, have you? You are NOT in control, you fool! And yes, leftist FREAK is exactly what you are.

        Have a nice day, fool!

        “The difference between being stupid and being a fool: A stupid person at least has an idea about their own inadequacies. The fool is oblivious to them, and is more inclined to believe their own fantasies and lies as truth.” – ObozoMustGo

        • AdamMos

          Whatever you say- Enjoy your Obamacare, your higher taxes, your gays in the military, equal pay for women, etc. ………NO we are not in control- Wait Here comes amnesty and citizenship for 11,000,000 new leftist freak democrat voting illegals. Whatever we cant do legislatively, we just do by executive order. We even have the Supreme Court. This is awesome- You can’t touch this.
          Have a nice day, Loser

          • FredAppell

            You sound like me losing your cool like that. Obozo is very good at getting under peoples skin. I don’t believe Obozo is one person. If you trace the amount of time Obozo is on the computer, it would be nearly impossible for one person to be as active as that. Even when you try to be civil, you get nothing but rants and insults. You were right though, eventually their numbers will be so small that they’ll be completely obliterated from politics and they know it, they have alluded to as much.
            We only need to be patient.

          • AdamMos

            I am not losing my cool. I am laughing at him right now. I am totally under his skin . Just keep reminding him that he lost which make his rants irrelavent. In fact his whole party is not relevant. He is being tortured by watching his party go down.

          • FredAppell

            You’re right, Keep it up.

          • ObozoMustGo

            So your disdain for the Constitution is for real, isn’t it? You must like having a dictator. Here is your messiah in uniform.

            Have a nice day!

            “The problem of the distribution of the power of a society, so as to be most favorable to liberty, cannot be solved so long as too much power is given to a single man.” – Charles de Montesquieu, “Spirit of Laws”, Book XI

          • AdamMos

            Yes, My Messiah the Harvard Constitutional Law Professor. You have to admit he really knows his stuff. Just think you only have to suck his ______ for 3.5 more years before Hillary. You still hanging out in loserville with McCain and Romney? Elections have consequences. My Messiah has his lousville slugger out right now and his kicking the crap out of the Republicans. Love It! The Tea Party is going down and will be sent to work camps. Fox news will be crushed when he sends in his Gestapo. Nice Photo, I like that profile and what a sharp coat he is wearing.
            Have a nice day, Loser

          • ObozoMustGo

            A rare moment of honesty from a lefist freak, indeed. Most of you losers lie about your worship of Obozo. Not you. Kudos!!!

            Here’s another pic of your messiah with his like minded comrades.

            Have a nice day!

            “In the first place God made idiots. This was for practice. Then he made Obozo supporters.” ― Mark Twain, Following the Equator: A Journey Around the World

  • I wonder how his constituents feel about his focus on austerity. How can a political leader focus on saving a few extra bucks as a condition to provide emergency relief to his constituents after a huge tornado destroyed the houses, schools, hospitals and infrastructure of the places he represents? Is that the best he can say to the families of those killed? If there was any doubt that we are dealing with ideological fanatics, this is it.
    I bet he had no problem when Halliburton, Bechtel and other FOB were getting tens of billions of dollars to rebuild Iraq…

    • RobertCHastings

      In ways, not really much worse than Senator Flake. How do you tell the mother of a dead child that you really don’t give a rat’s ass unless there is a vote in it for you?

      • Pretty flaky behavior, actually.

        • CPAinNewYork

          Cute.

      • SCGuardian

        That is easy for a Politician (Ultra-Right Republicans) because they wish to do away with such items as Medicaid, Food Stamps and such, Medicare, and home food deliveries for the elderly and those disabled. This is at both the State and Federal Levels.

        NOTICE I said Ultra-Right Republicans!!!! Seems that the Moderate to Left Republicans are in a Stasis Condition or else hog-tied and speechless. Never hear their input either at the State or Federal Levels.

        • RobertCHastings

          There are many more moderate or centrist Republicans who are fearful of countering the Tea Party or other far right factions of their party lest the entire party become too factionalized to function as a counter to the Democratic party. While there are factions within the Democratic party, they have managed to remain more unified, and one does not see the same kind of internecine warfare among Democrats as among Republicans. Obama has had tiffs with his Liberals and Progressives, but not like Boehner has had with his Tea Party. I honestly feel that Boehner is NOT a lover of the Tea Party, but his hands are tied. The state of Ohio is not a hotbed of conservatism or anti-union hatred, and Boehner has been around for long enough to realize the tide will change and he might still have a crack at the Speakership without the Tea Party.

          • SCGuardian

            The Republican TIFFS began when the Moderate and Left Republican Party members inadvertently let the Ultra Right have their way when it might have been easy to keep them out of the Drivers Seat. I fear that their deepest interest is to permit Corporate and the new “Robber Barons” control of the US and thus our Citizens and their Rights and Freedoms.

            Keep in mind that there was someone from Austria that rose to power in Germany much like the Ultra Right Republicans have here. He did so by Force and Propaganda; Force and Threats against those that opposed him and ramped up Propaganda fed to the Germany People. So far, the Ultra Rights have not used physical force, but they have made threats and have used plenty of Propaganda in their rise to power.

          • RobertCHastings

            Unfortunately, the moderates in the Republican Party have failed, and the Tea Party is nothing more than a smoke screen. And it is not just Republicans who are responsible for the corporate takeover of our country. The Occupy Wall Street Movement seems to have struck a chord with the power structure, and they have a story to tell which is found in “The Democracy Project” by David Graeber. It is easy to disagree with what he has to say, simply because he is one of them, until you take that leap of faith and do some research.

          • SCGuardian

            I am all for a structured Voter Campaign to get more Voters to stop the usage of voting a strict Party Ticket for both Democratic and Republican Candidates. As an Independent, I chose to vote for the “lesser evil”. Problem is that all of the Candidates are often fueled by Corporations and their Super Pacs (bribery money).

          • RobertCHastings

            Maybe it’s just me, but it seems that many instances of legislators voting the way their PAC and corporate backers want them to vote used to be called bribery. It is all too apparent that during the buildup to the vote on Universal Background Checks some in Congress said one thing to their constituents but voted the way their financial backers wanted. If it smells like duck s–t and you know the rest.
            There is an organization called ALEC whose purpose is to devise legislation amenable to the demands of their corporate sponsors, send the legislation to cooperative state and national legislators who will at least try to slip it in as a rider, generally in a spending bill. This is precisely how many state and local administrations have wound up with lax gun regulations. And yes, the Koch brothers are a supporter of ALEC, as is the NRA and the gun industry.
            The US Tax Code is 78,000 pages long, MOST of which is devoted to tax relief of one sort or another for the wealthy and corporations, in many instances directed toward a single entity. By reducing this unwieldy and arcane document to a more manageable 1,000 or so pages, Congress would go far toward ending the burgeoning income and wealth disparity in this country.

          • SCGuardian

            Any Plot to influence Rules and Regulations or to influence a Legislature member to promote a new Law or Regulation solely to benefit the Donor is BRIBERY. It should be a FELONY just like influencing a Juror in Court of Law to vote for or against the Defendant.

          • SCGuardian

            There should be NO RIDERS attached to any Bill that is not consistent and applicable to that Bill. The present usage of Riders to Bills should be stopped.

            Riders have been known to kill the Bill or make the Bill something other than what was intended. Often the addition to the Bill is a Donor Influenced (Money paid by a Donor to get what the Donor wants) addition.

            Any Legislative Member whether at the Federal Level or at a State Level who does so, should be investigated for a Felony Crime of accepting a Bribe.

          • SCGuardian

            The entire Tax Code is a farce directed to hard the Middle Class by obligating them to pay Taxes not paid for by the Top Echelon and Corporations.

            As to the Tax Code, you are correct in your assumptions. It is a quagmire designed and paid for by Corporations and the Top Echelon.

          • RobertCHastings

            Frequently, the legislation presented by Alec to its willing supporters is attached to budget bills, which seem to be read much less frequently than other bills prior to being voted on, and they are easily inserted at anytime during the process from initial reading to a final floor vote. All too frequently these are inserted by a minority member whose bills would not pass, anyway. While this seems a perversion of the system as we all understand it, This is the way it works, and this is the way that much of the tearing down of gun control measures has occurred. Prior to 2010, NC had a law that prohibited carrying a concealed weapon into parks anywhere in the state. In 2010, ALEC sponsored legislation in NC(and several other states) repealed such laws, giving municipalities discretion over this matter, and my city council just last week accepted a version of ALEC legislation that allows the concealed carry in public parks. That is the way the system works today.

    • latebloomingrandma

      And yet Oklahomans keep sending Coburn and Inhofe back to the Senate. OK will gladly take the federal aid, then continue to hate Obama, probably thinking their Congressmen looked out for them.

      • RobertCHastings

        Recent events, if Oklahomans can dig themselves out of the rubble, should demonstrate to the people of Oklahoma that their best interests are not being served by some of their people in Congress. It must be a terrible feeling to be thrown under the bus when you are already under your house.

  • I read the same thing you did. I see where he’s coming from. As government works, they always want to add bullshit on with disaster relief. I believe in his wisdom, he’s trying to protect the american tax payer. I see nothing wrong with making sure it’s paid for.
    Just a thought, folks…

    • realitychecku

      lol

    • Were the senator and his fellow Republicans ever concerned about who would pay for Iraq, Afghanistan, and tax breaks for the wealthy? Just a thought, Scott.

    • RobertCHastings

      Well, at least ONE Republican senator gets a vote of confidence for his principled stand.

    • Justin Napolitano

      Paid for by whom, the poor, elderly, children and handicapped.
      Why not enact a special tax on the Walton family 6 that have a combined wealthy of 90 billion dollars, or more than the bottom 120 million American families combined.

    • susan russell

      Oh come on Scott – take a stand with the little people. Justin is right. We need a wealth tax on all those folks who have made so much of their by cheating and stealing all of these last 50 years and who continue to do so. Where is the IRS when you need them?

      • hotflashweave

        Where is the IRS when you need them? Under investigation, for trying to do double their caseload in an efficient way, after the bone-headed decision by SCOTUS in Citizens United.

    • Vance Carter

      As long as it isn’t paid for out of SS, medicaid, or medicare. Why not start with Republican congress salaries and corporate welfare.

    • Vance Carter

      Just a thought!

    • oldtack

      Yessir I agree with you and bozo 110% by god. Life is tough and people make decisions -nobody told these people to build homes in “tornado alley”. If they got blown all to hell and lost their children it’s not our fault is it so why the hell should we bother about helping them.Don’t spend money on idiots. I dearly love the GOP standard – to each his own. I take care of ME – and to hell with you and the rest of the world.
      That is the philosophy you support in you logs isn’t it

    • flyinjs

      I understand what he is saying also…BUT isn’t Congress responsible for our budget? Is not Congress responsible for what goes into the disaster relief bill?

  • I admire the man, he is sticking to his principles, as a republican that’s all he really has left because his integrity, his humanity and his intelligence left a long time before the hurricanes hit.

    • You mean tornadoes……..

      • plc97477

        They left him a long time before that.

    • CPAinNewYork

      I don’t admire him. I think that he’s a total prick.

  • pcbs22

    What does he want to cut??? I am sure it ain’t gonna be corporate welfare payments to the rich and famous. Most likely cuts to social programs like head start, food assistance, housing assistnce etc.

    Tom get some of your big coporate buddies to fund the aid to your state. I am sure that Wal Mart McDonalds or some of the big casinos Conoco-Phillips the Crotch brothers would be able to kick in for sure and provide all the assistance needed with no taxpayer money spent.

  • I can think of a couple of items that should be cut, one is, members of congress pay, and benefits, and all the foreign aid, we tax payers are paying! The welfare of Americans, should always
    come first!

  • jointerjohn

    You notice these clowns didn’t insist on corresponding spending cuts when they launched the war on Iraq? These republican Senators are kind of like nerf vibrators, they look like the real thing but not worth a damn for getting the job done.

    • angelsinca

      “didn’t insist on corresponding spending cuts when they launched the war on Iraq”.

      Yes, and we are burdened with heavy debt because of it. Makes perfect sense now to not make the same mistake again.

      • SCGuardian

        But there are many Republicans that wants the US to go after Syria right now!

        • plc97477

          Followed right after with iran.

          • SCGuardian

            And North Korea to name another. The question is who is next.

      • BUT, your ilk is very self-forgiving. You have done this again and again . . . and you will again. You just do not want to do anything for your own fellow citizens. That would be too un-Christian!

        • angelsinca

          At your request, I cannot engage. But allow me to direct you to the where ‘my ilk’ are. I have to warn you though; some have complained that the help isn’t degreed, and that the temperature of the caviar is wrong, and that the champagne is too bubbly. Got change for a trillion? (yes, I am mocking your perception of the evil rich apathtic racist christian mysoginist conservative party)

      • Independent1

        Sorry, Angel, but paying to fix the result of disasters is not something that Congress should decide on who their going to ROB in order to pay for fixing something that happened to PAUL. Fixing disasters and going into a war BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO , not because you do it based on lies, is what using debt is ALL ABOUT. Fixing the results of disasters and paying for WARRANTED WARS, should be the RESPONSIBILITY OF EVERY AMERICAN!! And you can only do that by selling bonds (adding to the debt). Because if the disaster didn’t happen in your state today, it may well happen tomorrow (as many states are learning).

        Congress SHOULD NOT BE DECIDING, well this time we’ll cut the medicaid benefit by 20 billion to pay for this, or we’ll not fix the 150 bridges that are desperately need of repair, etc. etc. And if you haven’t noticed, the GOP NEVER SAYS – we should cut the annual Big Oil subsidies by 5 billion/yr for the next 10 years to pay for this!!! Or reduce the annual subsidies to Big Agri-Businesses.

        • angelsinca

          Getting back to basics, IF the admistration had decared last week’s deadly PK tornados as distaster areas then 2K tons of relief food destined for the victims wouldn’t have been detained and returned at the Canadian border this week. Before imposing NEW disaster relief rules (that make sense, btw), congress and the white house ought to be doing what NEEDS to done now. Where’s the president and why hasn’t he urged FEMA to declare the disaster yet? Searching for faults to assign to the GOP doesn’t seem to be producing solutions, only further whining.

  • realitychecku

    just like South Carolina…. anything against. Obama… vote this sucker back in…. and show just how dumb….some American can be.. cut your nose off.. spite you ugly faces

  • The GOP needs to be dismantled for Treason.

  • angelsinca

    This sounds reasonable: “Dr. Coburn has opposed disaster aid bills in the past because he believes disaster funding should be used to pay for disasters, not a wish list of parochial or backlogged priorities that have nothing to do with helping victims,”.

  • Dr. Coburn is absolutely right! what happened in Oklahoma is totally different then what happened with Hurricane Sandy! Keeping up with the GOP’S UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL policy “What happens in Blue states is different then what happens in Red states” Don’t you think its about time we start thinking about being Americans FIRST!!!!!! and give this Red & Blue crap a rest.

    • CPAinNewYork

      You are full of shit.

      • NO CP you are. It is your kind of partisan bullsh*t that is destroying this country. And I mean that kind of crap from both Democrats and Republicans. Until we all work together this country is going to continue to disintegrate.

        • Terri Johnson

          Try telling that to the GOP. Have you not heard what they have been doing since Pres Obama became our President. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AND THEY PROUDLY BOAST TO ALL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO UNTIL HE LEAVES OFFICE. That is YOUR GRAND OLE PARTY.

        • sassysticks

          Tell that to the GOP. They refused to work with a black President. On Obama’s first Inauguration the GOP was down on C Street plotting how they were going to make Obama a one-term president by refusing to work with him. Hopefully history will bear this fact out.

        • CPAinNewYork

          Work together? To what end, some goal that is so high minded that it’s unattainable?

          You independents are so high minded that you’re completely ineffective. You remind me of Joseph Lieberman, who became an independent because he disagreed with the Democrats’ opposition to the invasion of Iraq. Lieberman supported the Republican invasion because he figured that it protected Israel.

          Actually, Lieberman is so biased that he isn’t independent at all. He just couldn’t find any organized political party that satisfied his desire to kowtow to his Israeli masters. Lieberman doesn’t give a damn about America, except as it constitutes a shield for Israel. The little rat is a traitor.

      • Lynda Groom

        When you resort to using the ‘S’ word you’ve already lost the argument.

    • plc97477

      Would you like to explain how the 2 disasters are different?

  • If that is what the Senator wants, I’d suggest cutting all defense contracts in Oklahoma to $0. Also should cut the salaries for all Oklahoma congress people and their staffs to $0.

    State
    Oklahoma (OK)
    Dollar Amount of Defense Contracts Awarded to Contractors in this State from 2000 to 2012 – $23,919,822,107
    Number of Defense Contracts Awarded to Contractors in this State from 2000 to 2012 – 36,614
    Number of Defense Contractors in this State – 3,491

    • oldtack

      Maybe FEMA should cease all operations and the Government should issue a statement that further disaster aid cannot be forth coming until Dr. Coburn agrees to let them come back into Oklahoma.

  • Oklahoma Senator Demands Spending Cuts In Exchange For Disaster Relief/// well people there I guess you senator only has your best interest in mind . you vote POS like this in office . as what it says about him is one thing but it the most important think is what do you think about your self ?? and im sure you will vote that SOB in office next election

  • The assumption of many posters is that they WILL add all kinds of unrelated expenses to an aid bill benefiting not victims of this terrible storm, but some other dumb project/$$$ that can’t be passed any other way. What’s so hard about just voting on the aid instead of attempting to disparage a Senator’s reputation for living up to the promises made to the OK citizens who put him there in the first place?

    • flyinjs

      Belinda, Congress passes it??? Why do not even regular folks not understand who is really in control of the country? Is it the president? I think not

  • CPAinNewYork

    His comments and those of Imhofe surprise me, but the fact that they’re re-elected surprises me even more.

    • Independent1

      Sure doesn’t reflect very well on the people from Oklahoma, does it? (That despite how their reps treat them they just vote them back in.)

  • people look at it this way with the GOP AND THE TEA PARTY . this country now could very well have 23 million jobs in 8 years and not owe any one nothing even have money in the bank . like the Clinton ERA even the greedy bastard 2 % made money . one4 has to look at this to the point who are the stupid one’s the ones in office or the people that vote them in office ? wake up people your doing the bull chit to your self

  • kcgator

    Oklahoma (OK)
    Dollar Amount of Defense Contracts Awarded to Contractors in this State from 2000 to 2012 – $23,919,822,107
    Number of Defense Contracts Awarded to Contractors in this State from 2000 to 2012 – 36,614
    Number of Defense Contractors in this State – 3,491
    Denying your own citizens – who voted for you – help when they need it most? PRICELESS

  • Are the cuts Coburn demanding include elimination of tax-emptions of all “social welfare” organizations?

  • Fairplay4

    How much abuse are we going to take from the GOP before we fire them? They work for the super rich and have no compassion for others.

  • Dee Roragen

    Its no wonder that the politians let the wind blow away 1/2 the state 80 yrs ago!! and they are doing it again.

  • Robert Piser

    It’s amazing how the GOP attracts all these jerks like fly’s on dog poop. I guess you can’t be a Republican unless you have some sort of mental defect.

  • What a dipstick this guy is. Let him keep it up. It will help the Donkey party the next time to remind Oklahomans what an attitude this guy copped.

  • Inhofe, who called the Hurricane Sandy relief bill a “slush fund” before voting against it, insisted that the situation in Oklahoma is “totally different.”

    What a hypocrite.

  • emadis41

    Senator Coburn is putting politics above the welfare of the
    Oklahoman, and acting as if the Federal Government does not come with the help,
    he himself will pay the bill for the cleanup and rebuilding lives and
    businesses! But the issue is not that, the case he is making is that he will
    take the Federal monies, as long as someone else loose these funds, be it
    another state. The ultimate goal is to defund the Federal Gov, or “starve the
    beast”, and it doesn’t matter whom or what they will hurt or kill in the
    process, even if it is their constituents. This is why the Senator couldn’t
    wait until Moore is out of the daze of the disaster to deliver his stunt.

  • He feels so secure in his gerrymanderd district. I hope those poor repubs will wake up and stop voting against themselves.

    • Lynda Groom

      Both are Senators and therefore don’t come from gerrymandered districts…unless you consider an entire state gerrymandered.

  • john

    come 2014 lets hope we get rid of these Clowns for good!!!

  • Tell Dr, No to shove it up his no-no, who the hell does he think he is????

  • Mark Forsyth

    If only ignorant jackwagons like him would just pack their bags,leave the country,and abandon America forever.Since he is not part of the solution,he is part of the problem.

  • I have watching Documentaries…which pertains to groups like the “Skull & Bones” which the Bushes are into…plus, I hear, John Kerry, was in it…it is something else…this one of Oklahoma…sounds like he belongs to it..only the rich politicians and rich government officals can belong to it…watch it on The Documentaries of The Secret Societies that are throughout the whole world…but, the Group and Skulls….was enough for me…they are evil people…and there was so much in it…to say….that since the elder Bushes father, was a Nazi, and he own a bank and the Naz’s did money laundering within it…they really want to turn out country more into a Nazi government…Foreign Security and National Security and the Masons…and the Ulumanti and there are many more groups…are against the way that our government is run right now…so, all of you may learn something new pertaining to these documentaries…they do not lie….and you will understand more about why the Republicans are always stirring up trouble for the President…but, one thing that a lot of people do not know is that, Obama, is and was a Constitutional Lawyer…and he taught it…so, he is very aware about the amendments to it…and all the details…and he can use the executive powers of the branch of our government when he really needs to…so, in other words…we do not have a “dummie” as the Presiden of the USA

    • Terri Johnson

      Amen! He surely is no dummy. Finally someone agrees with me.

      • plc97477

        I think a majority of the posters on this site agree whole heartily with you. There are things I would change if I could but not his intelligence.

  • hotflashweave

    Disaster relief should be a clean bill. Always. Period. Any add-ons slow it up. We should be prepared for more disasters as the climate continues to change. Our inattention to the climate issue will be costly. Maybe the states who historically need the most help need to have a pool of their own. It’s interesting that of the 20 states that get the most money from the federal gov’t compared to what they put in, 16 are red states including Oklahoma., Arkansas and Missouri, who have also required the most disaster relief . NY, Massachusetts and California help subsidize them. Nice of them, isn’t it??

  • CrankyToo

    Coburn’s a slimy POS. Too bad they didn’t find his sorry ass under the Moore rubble.

  • Paul Dobson

    I hope the good people in Okla. wake up and vote this jerk out of office. It is very evident he does not care about the people of Okla. He just cares about himself. He is a disgrace to American politics.

  • Don’t blame the greedy bas—-, blame the voters who vote for him. We sure need leaders in both houses of congress. Most seat are occupied by people who have old self interest in heart and mind.

  • ralphkr

    Well, at least Senator Coburn sticks to his guns unlike Senator Inhofe who seems to have suddenly switched sides (as expected). Come to think of it, I learned about 7 decades ago while going to school in a strongly conservative state that you judged your congressmen by how much money they brought home as well as how much pork barrel spending they were able to cut. For those of you unfamiliar with the term: pork barrel spending is money spent in other states.

  • Mikey7a

    @ omg: I don’t know why I spend so much time debunking your nonsense omg. Oh wait, yes I do, it’s because you are a radical Right wing NUTjob, and your talking points are all horse manure! Anyway, as for our debt…..

    Hong Kong: $121.9 billion (0.9 percent)

    Caribbean banking centers: $148.3 (1 percent)

    Taiwan: $153.4 billion (1.1 percent)

    Brazil: $211.4 billion (1.5 percent)

    Oil exporting countries: $229.8 billion (1.6 percent)

    Mutual funds: $300.5 billion (2 percent)

    Commercial banks: $301.8 billion (2.1 percent)

    State, local and federal retirement funds: $320.9 billion (2.2 percent)

    Money market mutual funds: $337.7 billion (2.4 percent)

    United Kingdom: $346.5 billion (2.4 percent)

    Private pension funds: $504.7 billion (3.5 percent)

    State and local governments: $506.1 billion (3.5 percent)

    Japan: $912.4 billion (6.4 percent)

    U.S. households: $959.4 billion (6.6 percent)

    China: $1.16 trillion (8 percent)

    The U.S. Treasury: $1.63 trillion (11.3 percent)

    Social Security trust fund: $2.67 trillion (19 percent)

    So America owes foreigners about $4.5 trillion in debt. But America owes America $9.8 trillion.

    As for this HUGE ahem…sputter….cough I.R.S. scandal,

    A May 14 draft report by the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration found that none of the 296 questionable applicants had been denied: “For the 296 potential political cases we reviewed, as of December 17, 2012, 108 applications had been approved, 28 were withdrawn by the applicant, none had been denied, and 160 cases were open from 206 to 1,138 calendar days (some crossing two election cycles).”

    In fact, the only known 501(c)(4) applicant whose request for tax-exempt status was recently denied happens to be a progressive group: the Maine chapter of Emerge America, which trains Democratic women to run for office. Although the group did no electoral work, and didn’t participate in independent expenditure campaign activity either, its partisan nature disqualified it from being categorized as working for the “common good.”

    What’s so funny, this big “uncovering” of the “truth” is going to cost hundreds of Teabaggers their Tax Exemptions! Isn’t that just hilarious omg???

    Oh, have a nice day!

  • Mikey7a

    I don’t pray as often as I should, but God bless all those in OK affected by this horrible disaster, and Lord, give them the wisdom come Election Day, to send this rich, self serving jerk, packing! Amen!

  • Eleanore Whitaker

    Once you all face the fact that the GOP is constantly and only angling to push federal dollars toward Corporate America as their major duty of office, you see how skanky they’ve become. Of course, they want more spending cuts. How else can they amass the slush revenue to hand off another round of tax subsidies to Corporate Welfare cases? How else can they remain in office if they don’t do the bidding of their crony capitalists? The GOP bully bois must be voted out of the House in order to restore a balance in this economy. If they remain the majority rule in the House and the House chiefly controls where and how your tax dollars are spent, they will rain more austerity on the Middle Class to angle their way to hand off billions more to Big Businesses who then turn around and use those tax subsidies to re-elect the same jerks of the GOP.

  • SCGuardian

    If this is any indication of this man’s character, what will he demand next? What if he demanded your eldest child for his self-gratification before he would help? But that of course is Tea-Party politics.

    Oust him before he has time to come up with other demands.

  • disqus_ivSI3ByGmh

    Senator Imhoff, please explain to the rest of us how relief for the tornado disaster is different from Hurricane Sandy relief. Sandy’s devastation was across a much wider area and cause disruptions to many more people than the Moore tornado.

    On second thought, you are correct. The Moore tornado was significantly less damaging than was Sandy, and we should not bother sending any relief, or if it is, it should be as a proportional dollar figure, based on the population effected, as was granted in the Sandy fund.

  • I agree with him.
    The first item to cut is assistance to the victims of the OK tornado outbreak.
    Maybe close a few military bases there to help with the economy.

  • Victoria

    I agree with many of the comments stated. Although in some manner I agree with the sentiment of Sen. Coburn, but his approach was all wrong. What needs to happen if he is TRUELY concerned with wasteful spending of federal aid, they need to put stipulation on the funds such as funds may only be used for neccessitiy items. You should not be able to get and extreme body make over with the funds provided by the federal government. I am being a bit over dramatic to make light of the situation but federal checks should be written for housing and paid directly to the provider, clothes should be stipended to certain places. I do not believe monies should be paid in one lump some made out to the persons name. Remember recently it was announced funds that were provided to Katrina victims were not used for rebuilding and now they are trying to get those funds back. So regulate the spending but do not hinder the aid if that makes any sense.

  • yes do a cut – CUT THIER MEDICAL AND PENSIONS THAT WILL SAVE ENOUGHT

  • rustacus21

    If this comes at all as any surprise to any 1 in OK or America (for that matter), U’ve been under a rock the last 30 years!!! What’s really surprising is there is no one in the entire district that is disgusted enuff after news that Coburn tried peddling a “tampered” email as evidence (See: http://wwwdotpoliticususadotcom/day-benghazi-email-sen-coburn-referenced-glaring-omission-talkdothtml ) to his contention of a Benghazi cover-up, that now, there is no one outraged enuff in that entire region to begin the recall process to what is looking to be more a disgrace than an embarrassment w/each passing day! It’s up to Republican’s to fix their ‘OWN’ house however & this looks the best place to begin. How ironic that so many houses in the most decimated region of the nation, are similarly in distress as “THE” U.S. House of Representatives…

  • bg1435

    Everyone knows all about Coburn. ( he even helped Sandusky). The man is a disgrace.

  • What a poor excuse of human being Colburn is,,,his own people and he has to play Politics with them as they struggle to find shelter and food. His pay day will come with the next election I hope.

  • wilywascal

    OK Republican Senators Inhofe and Coburn use the respective arguments that
    they were justified in voting against Sandy relief because of the “pork”
    contained in the bill or because the cost wasn’t offset.

    Maybe we could buy that argument if Sen. Inhofe (R-OK) wasn’t the #8
    recipient of pork in 2012 out of 535 Congressional members and if Oklahoma
    didn’t receive $1.36 for every federal tax dollar paid.

    And maybe we could buy that argument if a Republican obstructionism hasn’t
    turned Congress into a dysfunctional mess where little gets accomplished,
    necessitating piggybacking, or if omnibus bills weren’t so commonplace.

    And maybe we could buy that argument if $51.8 billion legislation for Katrina aid in red states wasn’t passed in just ten days with a 410-11 House vote and a 97-0 Senate vote, while more congressional districts, with a greater number of people, were affected by Sandy in blue states. Moreover, the Katrina aid was then cynically used as a vehicle for crony capitalism, disaster profiteers, and pushing a conservative agenda, despite that conservative agenda having largely contributed to the scope of the disaster, and the initial and ongoing inadequate response to it.

    And maybe we could buy that argument if Senator Coburn hadn’t also voted
    for these measures without requiring any offsets:
    – The two relief bills for Hurricane Katrina in 2005, allocating more than $50 billion and allowing the National Flood Insurance Program to borrow more money.
    –The “Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act” (H.R. 1268) in 2005 that provided $82 billion to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
    –The Defense Appropriations Bill (H.R.2863) in 2006 that provided approximately $40 billion for the war in Iraq.
    The “Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act,” (H.R. 4939 ) in 2006 that provided $72 billion for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
    –The Department of Defense appropriations bill (H.R. 5631) in 2006 that included approximately $70 billion for the war in Iraq.
    –The Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) created by the Bush Administration and Congress that was enacted in October 2008, a rescue package to stabilize the financial system.

    And maybe we could buy that argument if Coburn was able to realistically promise
    that Congress would immediately reach a bipartisan decision on which programs
    to cut for the disaster relief so it wouldn’t be delayed for months and months.
    Dream on, Coburn.

    And maybe we could buy that argument if Republican Peter King hadn’t protested
    to Boehner about his delay of Sandy relief: “When the bill came from the
    Senate, we were told there was some pork in the bill. That was taken out of the
    bill. The bill that was going to be voted on the House floor was exactly in
    compliance with what the Republican leadership asked us to do.”

    And maybe we could buy that argument if some of what right-wingers are labeling
    as “pork” wasn’t for previous disasters going to Republicans from red states
    requesting it, and to secure needed Republican votes to pass the bill.

    And maybe we could buy that argument if what right-wingers are labeling as “pork”
    wasn’t disaster mitigation and prevention, which if you’re going to spend
    billions of dollars on relief, why not rebuild wisely and prudently work to
    avoid and reduce future disaster costs?

    And maybe we could buy that argument if what right-wingers are labeling as
    “pork” wasn’t for damage to military bases and other government facilities
    damaged by Sandy.

    And maybe we could buy that argument if what right-wingers are labeling as “pork”
    wasn’t low-interest loan programs and block grants intended to rebuild what
    Sandy destroyed.

    And maybe we could buy that argument if the two top states claiming disasters
    the previous couple of years wasn’t Texas and Oklahoma, accounting for over a
    quarter of the total. Oklahoma currently still ranks third.

    And maybe we could buy that argument if the OK Senators hadn’t had a previous
    history of not voting for disaster relief. As reported, “And despite their voting record
    on disaster aid for other states, both Coburn and Inhofe appear to sing a
    different tune when it comes to such funding for Oklahoma.”

  • Stamps1962

    It’s just hunky-dorey with a lot of voters in red states when their representatives block or delay aid to ‘those people’ living in low income areas or in ‘blue’ states. Then when it happens to them they holler. Time we all realized this is one nation and send people to congress who look at big pictures, not as opportunities for cheap political points.