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Wednesday, October 26, 2016

A whopping 68 percent of people surveyed say a government shutdown of even a few days would be a bad thing, according to a new CNN/ORC International poll released on Monday. However, 56 percent of those who identify as Tea Party supporters say it would be a good thing, compared to 40 percent of self-described Republicans.

A plurality of 46 percent say they would blame House Republicans compared to 36 percent who would blame the president, but that number has shifted slightly in Republicans’ favor over the last few weeks.

The poll sets up the frame that Congress and President Obama are acting like “spoiled children.” Only the president makes it out of this question with some dignity, with 49 percent saying he’s behaving as a responsible adult, compared to 47 percent who say he’s acting like a spoiled child. Only 25 percent think Republicans have acted like adults, while 69 percent see them as spoiled kids.

The worst news for Republicans? Even 52 percent of Tea Partiers believe that House Republicans are acting like petulant children.

Tea Partiers want a government shutdown and also believe their reps aren’t acting like adults. Apparently, their fear is that Republicans may not be willing to shut down the government, at least for a few days.

Herein lies the rub for the GOP. The Tea Party is near an all-time low in popularity, but still makes up a huge chunk of the Republican base, especially those who vote in every primary. While the Republican Party needs to grow its appeal to win presidential elections, doing so may actually hurt House Republicans. America is becoming more diverse, but Republican districts actually became less diverse in 2012.

In a recent United Technologies/National Journal Congressional Connection Poll, 54 percent of minority voters said they think Obamacare will benefit them or their families, which is exactly double the percentage of white voters who said the same thing.

The CNN/ORC poll found that only 39 percent of Americans actually oppose the Affordable Care Act because it’s too liberal, which proves the point that the opposition to Obamacare continues to come primarily from the Republican base. Two-thirds of Republican voters said the law was too liberal, however 9 percent said it wasn’t liberal enough.

A short shutdown may be a good thing to the far right, but they do have their limits.

Even a slight majority of Tea Partiers think a shutdown lasting several weeks would be a bad thing, joining 79 percent of all voters who are opposed to a long-term shutdown.

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  • Lynda Groom

    You can fool some of the people sometime, but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time. It appears that there is a split within the ranks of the Tea Party. I wish I could find some comfort in that fact, but I don’t.

    • Allan Richardson

      But if you can fool 51 percent every two years, and keep the rest from voting, that’s all you need!

  • Just Wondering

    Extortion Is A Crime…. Unless your A Republican…. Then Its How You Do Business

    • Dzeeryp

      So TRUE!!

  • hankusmc

    I heard that there was a poll conducted of some Obamacare opposers where they were presented with an alternate Bill, written to replace the current Obamacare Bill. It was not the entire Bill, but an alternate with a different name and offered as a replacement to the original Obamacare Bill. The people who were polled loved this alternative Bill and overwhelmingly stated their enthusiasm about it. They said that “this” was a Health Care Bill that they could definitely live with. The problem is, it was portions of the exact, same Obamacare Bill that they were so opposed to. It just didn’t have the name “Obamacare” on it.

    • Bill Boltz

      This is a race issue….I’ve always believed that. We have some nut in Montana(montanabill) comparing Obamacare to the 1860’s slavery vote. How insensitive is that? Next he’ll compare it to 1940’s Nazi Germany. The teabaggers want, I’m sure, all future black presidents to be white. Wait till Hillary wins….this is just the beginning of the end. Turn out the lights…the Grand Old Party is over…….(I hope).

      • disqus_ivSI3ByGmh

        Cruz already compared the ACA to the appeasement of the Nazis over the Sudetenland.

        • Bill Boltz

          His mother must be so proud.

        • Annemb

          Although he purports to know history, he knows nothing! His rhetoric was empty when he spoke for all those hours and wasted our money too.

        • CPAinNewYork

          Cruz strikes me as a jerk.

          • RickinCleveland

            LOL, I just want to strike the jerk.

      • CPAinNewYork

        I hope that Hillary doesn’t get the 2016 Democratic nomination. If she does, the Republicans may very well win the election.

        • Bill Boltz

          I hope the thought of a Republican victory doesn’t stop her from running. I don’t know whether she would be good at it, but the alternative you speak of terrifies me.

  • Archies_Boy

    Truly, the inmates are running the asylum. Let’s call a spade a spade: The Republicans in Congress are engaging in domestic terrorism. Help stop the lunacy and protect the People. Sign the petition at and then send it on.

    • Bill Boltz

      Excellent post, Archies_Boy. Everyone should sign this petition.

    • CPAinNewYork

      To hell with petitions. Just vote Democratic for the next two elections and the Republicans will become irrelevant.

  • Budjob

    What a bunch losers and sick bastards posing as politicians.I think what is needed is a general defunding of these political parasites.A concentrated effort to strip them of ALL PAY AND BENEFITS and then file charges of treason against these lousy bastards.These people are sick and,it is all because we have a black President!!!

    • CPAinNewYork

      Up until your last sentence, I agreed with you. The problem-creators are white Republicans. How does Obama’s election come in for any of the criticism? I think that you’re off base.

      • Budjob

        CPA,I think you misunderstood my last sentence.I was implying that the perpetrators in the shutdown of the government are doing this because theyare
        blatant racists and are upset that WE elected an African/American as President.

  • Dominick Vila

    Compromising the economic recovery and the credibility of the United States in the pursuit of an ideological goal is the epitome of irresponsibility. If Sen. Cruz, and his followers, are concerned about specific parts of the Affordable Care Act they should highlight their concerns using facts and demand action to correct them. Thus far, the only thing we hear from them are predictions of what may have, immature hyperbole, and outright distortions of fact. They should be ashamed of themselves and must be held responsible for the consequences of this latest Federal government shutdown, which was totally unnecessary.
    Unfortunately, this is likely to be a precursor of things to come. The next fight will be the debt ceiling two weeks from now, and if things go their way in 2014 we can expect ACA to be repealed via denying it the funds it needs to function, MEDICARE will be dismantled and replaced with a voucher system, Social Security will be privatized, and Scalia-Alito judges will replace departing Justices. If this is not enough to wake up mainstream America, we deserve what we are likely to get if the GOP controls the Senate and the House after 2014.

  • roguerunners

    Sorry Teaparty, it’s too late to back out now. You have already shown the world what fools you are.

  • howa4x

    Once the GOP opened Pandora’s box and let the evil genie out, their politics have never been the same. The emergence of the tea party changed the way republicans do business. Instead of finding common ground they grab far right positions and hang on for dear life. The tealiban was created to be disruptive. They emerged during the health care debates to shout down any speaker who tried to explain the law. The fools even brought guns to these meeting as an intimidation factor. Now the GOP will suffer the same fate as the democrats did during Viet Nam. Back then the left grabbed hold of the primary apparatus and pushed their candidates into the House. Any potential candidate had to past their muster. The democrats were kept out of the White house for many years till Clinton pulled them back to the center. The difference is this time is that the tealiban were created by the big money groups to push their cynical anti union/environment agenda under the guise of Freedom. The Koch bros fund the tea party, and the tea party has a big influence in the house because of redistricting. These candidates can’t win state elections outside of the deep south and west. The problem for the GOP is that the majority of the population doesn’t live there, it’s in blue states and battleground ones, so the tealiban is like a guerilla group creating disruption instead of governing. The GOP runs scared of them because they control the primaries. Only when the moderates finally stand up and say enough, will this type of lurching from one manufactured crisis to another will stop, and allow a republican candidate who is reasonable emerge. If they can’t do that they will be a national minority party till they devolve into a regional one.

    • Allan Richardson

      The extreme left of the 1960’s were not nearly as dangerous as the extreme right are today (and were, even then, despite their smaller numbers), because the left had very little corporate or wealthy persons’ money behind them (the right will say they had the Soviet Union behind them, but that was a very small factor, financially or politically), while today’s right wing has BOUGHT the White House five times, BOUGHT a majority of Congressional districts, and BOUGHT the Supreme Court, which gave the permission to BUY EVEN MORE political seats.

      • howa4x

        True Allan I was there too on the left

  • ACMEsalesrep

    How can a health care system be “too liberal”? Aren’t they supposed to provide health care to as many people as possible? Isn’t that the entire point?

    • Allan Richardson

      But only “real” Americans deserve to get health care! Real Americans with MONEY. Survival of the wealthiest.

  • Allan Richardson

    Every time I hear a Republican politician on the media, they are saying that they are listening to the “voice of the American people” or that “the American people want” whatever they are selling, etc. And yet, the polls consistently show the MAJORITY or a PLURALITY of Americans disagree. I get the feeling that if you do not AGREE WITH THEM (or are not the right color, heritage, religion, etc.) then you are NOT AMERICAN to them.

    Now they have brought up the “conscience clause” again (as if they HAD a conscience) saying that the religious beliefs of the BOSS should be allowed to limit the insurance coverage available to the EMPLOYEES, regardless of THEIR beliefs. They are trying to open up a DANGEROUS slippery slope, because, as the most obvious example, a boss who is a JEHOVAH’S WITNESS could decline to cover BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS or ORGAN TRANSPLANTS (which necessarily include some blood)! Of course, I respect the rights of Jehovah’s Witnesses, or any other group, to practice their faith, along with its restrictions, FOR THEMSELVES, but not to impose it on others through political OR ECONOMIC power.

    We must not allow this group to define who is a “real” American and whose freedom of religion counts under the law. Even if you are a Republican, your duty in the next few elections is to vote for DEMOCRATS when the alternative is an extreme Tea Party or Religious Right candidate.

  • mah101

    My question for the 36 percent who blame the Democrats:

    If a bully demanded your child hand over his lunch money, and your child said no, would you then blame and punish your child for the subsequent beating?

  • BostonT

    I’ve noticed that these idiots will continue to be paid. God forbid they should go without a paycheck! The rest of us be damned. Off with their heads. That worked some time ago in France!