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Friday, October 28, 2016

In mid-March, House Republicans took their 52nd vote in 38 months to repeal the Affordable Care Act. While a majority of the House voted in favor of the bill, however, public support for these continued efforts to repeal the health care law is progressively shrinking.

According to a Kaiser Foundation poll released on Wednesday, only 18 percent of Americans still wish to see the law repealed and not replaced — 11 percent want to repeal the law and replace it with a Republican alternative, 10 percent want it to remain as is, and a 49 percent majority want to keep it and improve it.

It seems repeated GOP efforts to defund the law have hit a standstill, representing a possible warning to Republicans who exclusively focus on the ACA in the upcoming midterm elections. According to the poll, a growing number of Americans have accepted the ACA as the law of the land. Some 53 percent of those polled now say they are tired of debating the already implemented law, and would prefer to move on to other important issues.

In fact, 47 percent of those who identify as Republicans — as well as those who already hold an unfavorable opinion of the health care law — agree that Congress should focus on other issues and stop debating Obamacare. Kaiser Poll half-say-they-are-tired-of-hearing-about-aca-debate-polling Though a majority of the population remains opposed to the president’s health care law, this is a narrowing bloc. Public opinion of the ACA has taken a positive turn for the first time since the glitchy website rollout. According to the Kaiser Foundation, 46 percent hold an unfavorable view of the ACA while 38 percent remain in favor. The current 8-point margin has tapered considerably since January, when it stood at 16 percent.

Specific provisions are very popular — 80 percent of Americans are in favor of allowing young adults to remain on their parents’ health insurance until the age of 26. Furthermore, a bipartisan 79 percent favor closing the Medicare “donut hole” for prescription drug coverage; 77 percent support subsidy assistance to low-income Americans to purchase coverage, as well as the provision that eliminates out-of-pocket costs for preventative services; and 74 percent back Medicaid expansion.

Republicans have had some successes in their attempts to discredit the law — 46 percent of Americans falsely believe that the ACA would allow undocumented immigrants to receive government assistance to purchase health insurance coverage. The mythical “death panel” is also a common misconception; though this has been largely corrected, 34 percent still believe that the government would create a panel of individuals responsible for deciding end-of-life care for Medicare recipients.

House Republicans are surely strategizing vote number 53 to overturn the law, but the numbers remain stacked against them. Americans are becoming more accepting of Obamacare, ready to move on from the repeal debate, and over four million people have enrolled in health insurance coverage under the Affordable Care Act.

The Kaiser Foundation poll surveyed 1,504 adults nationally from March 11-17, and has a +/- 3 percent margin of error. Full poll results can be accessed here.

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  • ExRadioGuy15

    I predicted last year that the GOP were desperate to repeal the PPACA because, once it took full effect and everyone understood how well it works, trying to repeal it would blow up in the GOP’s faces.

    • TZToronto

      At this point, every time there’s a vote to repeal the ACA, those who introduce the bill should lose their salary for that day since they’re not working for it. . . . Or perhaps they should be carted away to the asylum since they’re clearly insane.

      • ExRadioGuy15

        Those are some salient points you make, TZ….I’ve been correctly saying that one of the 10 Tenets of the Republican Party is insanity. As with it and the other nine Tenets of the GOP, the Republicans consistently blow the opportunities they have to prove me wrong by doing the exact opposite. The other nine Tenets of the GOP, for your perusal: bigotry, hypocrisy, elitism, Fascism, greed, corruption, incompetence, arrogance and unintentional comedy. Allow me to repeat the sad fact of the Republican Party: they consistently blow every opportunity to prove me incorrect about their 10 Tenets. The only way the GOP can return to greatness is for them to completely abandon and denounce their 10 Tenets.

      • latebloomingrandma

        Yes. What a colossal waste of time. Especially since Boehner doesn’t bring legitimate bills up for a vote. I don’t know how he looks himself in the mirror. A perennially angry sarcastic man. Wonder what his disposition would be if he quit smoking?

        • Allan Richardson

          It would improve if he started smoking something else. Fortunately, the D.C. City Council has removed criminal penalties for that substance, and if the Speaker of the House tries it, I can guarantee that this is one D.C.ordinance that Congress will not overturn!

      • merr7242

        Great idea. It might stop these teabaggers from wasting the taxpayers money and try to accomplish something of value for a change.

  • Dominick Vila

    The Affordable Care Act, like every major social program, will need to be modified as we learn more about its strengths and weaknesses, and more efficient and cost-effective alternative to do some of its many facets become apparent. That does not mean the concept is misguided, or its implementation is flawed. All the excuses made to date about its need and effectiveness and need, the strong criticisms voiced about the problems encountered during its implementation, and calls for repeal without a viable alternative to replace a tool that allows us, as a society, to end the draconian system it replaced, were based strictly on misguided ideology and an overt attempt to deny President Obama his place in history.
    The ACA does a lot more than remedy the shortcoming and material excesses of an immoral system, and it does more than extend preventive and affordable medical care to fellow citizens who never had it before. The ACA helps both the consumers and government at all levels reduce the cost of medical care, in part by reducing the incidence and cost of chronic illnesses that can be corrected if treated on time, it reduces the cost incurred by the business community as a result of absenteeism and escalating insurance premiums caused by the prolonged treatment of illnesses that may be prevented, and may result in the eventual implementation of a national healthcare system that is affordable and available to everyone. The latter is what the GOP is fighting tooth and nail as such probability would impact the interests of the businesses that fund their campaigns. Their argument has absolutely nothing to do with what is best for the American people, but what is best for the insurance industry, and a corrupt and inhumane healthcare system.

    • merr7242

      Very well stated. You have covered all of the reasons why the GOTP doesn’t want this program to work and they are transparent in how they try to explain why they want to repeal it. They had just as much chance to have input to this program as everyone else involved with its planning process. They have spent millions of dollars trying to repeal the plan – $54 million the last I heard. Seems funny that the party of small government spends wildly for this reason while they blame President Obama for erroneously being a big spender. The last I heard, they want to impeach him for an as yet reasonable reason.

  • gmccpa

    It’s a logical progression that more will accept the ACA. Much of the opposition was based on hyperbole and outright lies. If one were to believe that the law was unconstitutional and would ‘destroy the country’, with such consequences as death panels, negative changes to Medicare, doctors quitting in droves, people losing their insurance…and the ever repeated ‘train wreck’ meme…then, of course one would be against it.

    As people see that none of that is actually happening, and many find that they are mostly unaffected, their opposition will wane. And when you factor in the number of people benefiting, much of that opposition will turn to support.

    The bigger question is, why have the Republicans been able to spread such nonsense, without being called on it. Yes, we’ve had Factcheck, websites such as this, and some Democrats (not nearly enough) pushing back. But in the mainstream…so many lies were left unchallenged. And actually promoted. Really disgusting.

    • A_Real_Einstein

      The fact is people are naturally resistant to change. The fear of the unknown trumps all. They would rather keep a lousy program as opposed to risking that to get something less. Most Americans were satisfied with the status quo. After all, the old system seemed fine until you got sick. Most people are not sick. In the end this will be as popular as Medicare and SS. The longer it is in place the more popular it will be. It will seen like normal soon and the replace ideology will become the “change”.
      The majority of those that oppose this are over 65 and thankfully will not be voting soon. These selfish people rally against government regulated health care but will exercise their 2nd amendment rights if you try take theirs away (Medicare). These are Republicans who vote against their own interests because they have been duped. I am sorry to say that they are not very bright and few have a college education.
      The GOP has big problems. Their donors want to eliminate these “entitlement” programs and their base are biggest beneficiaries of these programs. They have no other option other than to lie.

  • ps0rjl

    Here’s a fact for those who oppose the ACA. When I retired the cheapest insurance I could get for my wife was over $1500 a month because she has MS and is not old enough for Medicare. Medicaid was out of the question because I was prudent and saved for my retirement. Now with the ACA my wife’s premiums are $505.58 per month and we do not get any assistance for paying the premiums. She now has excellent insurance. I agree that as time goes on the system will need to be tweaked, but even as it stands now it is a Godsend. I wish it would have had a better rollout, but attacking ACA because of the rollout, is like attacking NASA because it had so many launch failures

    • dpaano

      ps0rjl: I am sooo glad that you were able to get affordable insurance for your wife. You must feel very relieved that you were able to do this with ACA. I wish more people realized that they would profit from signing up for this program (and for those states that have governors who have declined the program, may they learn from their stupidity). Good luck to your wife, and I hope she is doing well.

      • DurdyDawg

        Those gov’ner will never concede to their stupidity, they’ll simply blame Obama and the liberal democrats for any failures on their part.. May they all find themselves in line at chick-fil-a with work application in hand.

        • Barbara Morgan

          Make that the unemployment line after they have lost everything they owned and being told you will not be getting any more unemployment.

    • Dominick Vila

      I had a similar situation with my wife, who is 8 years younger than I. She is now on MEDICARE, but we had to pay $700 a month for a few years, after I retired. Republicans seem to have forgotten how things were before ACA was implemented, or remember it and want us to forget it.
      I live in Florida where Gov. Scott continues to air ads claiming that ACA is going to cost the state 2.5 million jobs, even though the state rejected participation in the expansion of MEDICAID needed to implement ACA. Not surprisingly, Gov. Scott has received tens of thousands of dollars in donations from the insurance and healthcare system to help him run his re-election campaign, with ACA as the centerpiece of his claim for re-election.

    • A_Real_Einstein

      My premiums went down $110 per month and my preventative care has no co pay. My daughter and I will never be turned down for coverage due to pre existing conditions. God Bless Obama and the Democrats – the saviors of the middle class.

  • howa4x

    Republicans can only sow misconceptions instead of real policy. The death panels of Sara Palin still are prevalent as well as other myths. We still have 8 month to go and as more and more sign up the republican message is loosing ground.
    The real problem with the debate is that we are still arguing over how we will pay for all the disease in this country, currently costing 2.8 trillion/year, instead of how are we going to use prevention as a way to lower our disease rates, and costs.
    The ACA still supports the medical model that we have which is a profit driven system of illness intervention and maintenance. We treat rather than put people on a healthy lifestyle path. We also support, with government subsidies, industries that produce harmful products to our health. Sugar , and it’s substitute corn syrup has been linked directly as a casual agent in our obesity epidemic, which causes heart disease, diabetes and cancer. So on one side we are supporting industries that cause disease and on the other we spend trillions treating them. As for the illness delivery system, everyone involved depends on illness as a source of their income and wealth. There is no economic incentive to get people to live a healthy lifestyle with in the system, rather the economic incentive is to get people as sick as possible since the sicker the individual, the more money can be made off of the sickness. This is not sustainable, and we all need to take an active part in turning this around by eating better, and exercising more. If we don’t we will have this argument for many years to come.

    • FredAppell

      I’m astounded by how Michelle Obama is continually bashed for her nutrition initiatives. She is trying to teach people to take a proactive roll in the prevention of the very diseases you have mentioned. The right wing likes to espouse personal responsibility and that’s what she is aiming for. When Reagan tabbed Arnold Schwarzeneggar as his fitness guru, everyone thought that was a great idea. Unbelievable is the only word I can come up with to describe the hypocrisy. Michelle should be applauded for her efforts, instead, she’s met with scorn. I guess, as long as we’re all sick, we’re not liable to put up too much resistance while our country is being stolen from us.

      • howa4x

        I agree. She is the opposite to Paula Deane, the heroine of the right wing and who gave herself diabetes from her own recipes. The great illness conspiracy is what the medical industrial complex is involved in. How to keep as many people as possible in a state of illness. How to keep them financially tied to the illness industry. This should be the main topic of the national conversation.

        • FredAppell

          Not only did she give herself diabetes, she continued to push her unhealthy comfort food on naive Americans while keeping her own condition a secret. She’s a shameless bitch that sold out her fans to money. She’s making a comeback too you know! Suddenly, she’s America’s food guru again. Rachael Ray isn’t much better either. I’m so aggravated by the entire for profit syndrome. And your right, this should be the main topic of the national conversation.

          • Barbara Morgan

            Rachel Ray when I have watched her show has always said that the food she is preparing isn’t the healthy version of the food but it is the way she and her husband like it. She has also offered many healthy recipes on her show.

          • FredAppell

            I apologize for my Rachael Ray comment. I was not aware of the info you provided. I used to like Rachael,
            that is until I read a small interview with Anthony Bourdain where he called Paula evil and irresponsible
            for pushing her unhealthy food on America, his opinion of Rachael was only slightly better. Paula has also been a frequent guest on Rachael’s show and has been described as a close personal friend of Rachael so I assumed neither one of them cared much about what they’re pushing on unsuspecting people.

      • Allan Richardson

        It is possible that, being enamored with the racial stereotype of black women as fat and out of shape (as in the Mammy character in “Gone with the Wind”), they refuse to accept that a black First Lady is even in good shape herself (there are many anti-Obama comments in the media and on the web claiming she is fat), much less qualified to encourage good health and fitness in others. And of course, her reasonable SUGGESTIONS for healthy eating are transformed in the minds of extreme-wrong-wing pundits into SOCIALIST EDICTS in violation of individual AMERICAN freedoms.

        Since several of those wrong-wing pundits are themselves fat (don’t Rush to identify yourselves), interfering with THEIR unhealthy diets, even as a suggestion, is in their eyes un-American. Please, guys, keep on eating those triple bacon cheeseburgers all day. We’ll be waiting …

        • FredAppell

          The Obama’s are just going to have to learn their place. How dare they try to improve people’s lives through advising us of good management! LOL. Seriously though, that’s the feeling I get when these fools open up their mouths. I’ve even heard accusations that the Obama’s took advantage of Affirmative Action by going to college, that’s simply
          not true, they were both gifted students that got there on their own hard work and merit. They earned everything they got and I believe that also pisses off the haters because these two don’t fit nicely into the preconceived image of the American Negro.

          Another thing, these right wingers are so uptight and obsessed with individual liberty that they can’t even recognize that they haven’t lost any personal liberties. The way they throw that word around diminishes it’s true meaning. When you consider how easily and recklessly that word is being used, one could substitute liberty with entitlement. Once that’s done, it becomes a lot clearer what the message of the right really is.

          • itsfun

            If Obama is so smart, why won’t he show his college transcripts? Could it be because he went to college on a foreign student only scholarship?

          • merr7242

            You are the biggest idiot @itsfun. You are showing not only your racist behavior but your ignorance! BTW, when was the last time you saw a transcript of a president? How about NEVER!

          • itsfun

            From Freedom Outpost

            I am mad as hell. President Barack Obama, in 1991, admitted being born in Kenya,
            and no one seems to care. This is not hearsay. It is documented. This
            is not a typical “bombshell” because the truth is that we have known
            about this for well over a year, and some have known for much longer
            than that. The problem is that no one wants to report it or talk about
            it. The media and lock-stepping useful idiots will either make excuses
            or simply pull out the insults.

            I am sick and tired of being told that it does not matter where Obama
            was born. The argument I get from many conservatives is that nothing is
            going to be done about it, so we need to focus on important things like
            Benghazi, the IRS scandal, NSA spying, or whatever the particular flavor of the week is.

            And you think we will see justice for Benghazi, the IRS scandal and the NSA?

            And you call me a conspiracy theorist?

            They say that we have Obama and are stuck with him. This should have
            been taken care of before the 2012 election. It’s our fault that we
            didn’t take care of it. Yeah, right! The problem is that all of these
            pansy congressional servants, who we elected, refuse to tackle this
            issue. They are complicit. Markwayne Mullin of Oklahoma summed up the feelings of ALL of them last summer.

            At least he told the truth although the profanity was unwarranted.
            The problem is that they all hold this same opinion but refuse to admit
            it. They know that Obama was not born here, but it doesn’t fit their
            hidden agenda to remove him. We are told that they will “look into it”
            and nothing ever happens. God Bless those people like Taitz and Sheriff Joe, who refuse to give up because, if nothing else, people deserve the truth.

            I fall into the trap that many of us do. People meet the Obama
            birthplace issue with such friction that they simply wear us down. We
            stop talking about it to avoid confrontation or simply because no one
            wants to hear it. We can’t do that. The truth must be told. Today I ran
            into a short audio on Birther Report that gave me a stern wake up call and I want to share it with you:

            So, even though I agree that nothing is going to be done about it,
            today I want to reveal the truth. Hillary Clinton was not the original
            “birther,” as some would say. The original birther was Barack Obama. In 2012, Breitbart broke one of the most significant, yet ignored, stories of the Obama presidency:

            Breitbart News has obtained a promotional booklet
            produced in 1991 by Barack Obama’s then-literary agency, Acton &
            Dystel, which touts Obama as “born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and

            The booklet, which was distributed to “business colleagues” in
            the publishing industry, includes a brief biography of Obama among the
            biographies of eighty-nine other authors represented by Acton &

            It also promotes Obama’s anticipated first book, Journeys in Black and White–which Obama abandoned, later publishing Dreams from My Father instead.

            Obama’s biography in the booklet is as follows (image and text below):

            Barack Obama, the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review,
            was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii. The son of an
            American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister, he attended
            Columbia University and worked as a financial journalist and editor for
            Business International Corporation. He served as project coordinator
            in Harlem for the New York Public Interest Research Group, and was
            Executive Director of the Developing Communities Project in Chicago’s
            South Side. His commitment to social and racial issues will be evident
            in his first book, Journeys in Black and White.

            How can anyone refute that Obama admitted to being born in Kenya?
            They cannot. Whether he or his publisher wrote this, he clearly signed
            off on it.

            Some have said that he lied to sell more books. The general idea is that he sensationalized in order to sound more interesting.

            But the bottom line is that this biography was not questioned or
            edited until well into Barack Obama’s presidency, and we are expected to
            believe that it was just a misunderstanding or mistake of some kind.
            They had 21 years to correct it.

            In my opinion, there are two pieces of evidence that are more important than birth certificates, social security numbers,
            newspaper clippings or anything else. This came from Obama himself who
            in no way would want to jeopardize his own career. There is no agenda

            The other is taken directly from Kenyan Parliamentary record as reported by Tim Brown of Freedom Outpost:

            In case you are skeptical, you should go back and read the Kenyan Parliament’s own minutes on November 5, 2008, where they openly stated,

            “Mr. Obama, is a son of the soil of this country
            (Kenya). Every other country in this continent is celebrating the Obama
            win. It is only proper and fitting that the country which he originates
            should show the same excitement, pomp and colour.”

            Looking at the pieces of the puzzle that seem to be pushed by no
            particular agenda, it appears that there is and always has been enough
            reason to perform an investigation.

            I agree that Congress will likely never tackle this issue. But if you
            really think they are effectively handling issues like Benghazi then
            you are just as blind as you think I am.

            This is the truth. Obama admitted that he was born in Kenya and
            Americans deserve to know. Don’t tell me the book publisher messed up.
            Obama had over 20 years to call their attention to that “mistake.” He
            owned it whether it was true or not.


            Don’t forget to Like Freedom Outpost on Facebook, Google Plus, Tea Party Community & Twitter.

            You can also get Freedom Outpost delivered to your Amazon Kindle device here.

      • merr7242

        I have a friend who blatantly told me that he wasn’t going to let some n***** tell him what to eat. Yes, he is a fat slob! He is registered nurse, so I found his comments to be crazy!

        • FredAppell

          This person is your friend? Ouch! He’s not very responsible is he, if he is a registered nurse than it wouldn’t be a stretch to say that he continually sees the consequences from obesity. I’m appreciative of the fact that you told me this. I have a keen interest in human psychology. I believe the Obama’s aren’t the true catalyst for conservative frustration, they’re simply a convenient scapegoat for that frustration. This has been brewing much longer than any of us have even been aware of the Obama’s. I’d very much like to get your opinion on this.

    • Allan Richardson

      The big advance of the ACA is that, with the insurance coverage available, and with preventive and screening exams covered with no copay, more people will be able to get preventive advice as well as treatment if needed. The new ACA is, in fact, geared toward giving providers an incentive to get and keep patients healthy with the most cost-effective means.

      • howa4x

        I have to disagree with you on this. Providers do not have a financial incentive to keep people healthy. To use your example if a provider gives you just some tests he only makes money on the test itself but if they can find problems from the tests that is where the financial incentive is. The entire wealth of the medical model is based on disease, not making people healthy which is when they don’t make any money. So the more issues they can find with your health or problems is where the real money is made by doctors, and big Pharma. We’ve built these monuments to disease called hospitals. They are large physical plants that have to be heated and cooled, maintained and cleaned and staffed with enough security, house staff(cleaning) maintenance nurses, tech’s, labs, and staff doctors and all have to be paid. Patients aren’t viewed as individuals but as market share of various diseases. I know all this because I was on the bd of directors of one.
        If there are high rates of cancer and enough rich donors, the hospital may build a cancer center to better capture this market, or a heart center, or children’s hospital. It is all about treatment of disease. Poorer residents are shoved into clinics where Medicaid is the payer, and if the real estate of the floor or it’s value for more disease income becomes an issue the clinics will be put out of the hospital in rented space, called community based care.
        Americans have to wake up to what the doctors have created. We are spending much more now upwards of 2.8 trillion/year and our overall health of the population is ranked 34th in the world just below Costa Rica.
        Doctors aren’t the trusted people we grew up with on TV but private corporations that make a profit on passing people through the doors. A lot are there because they can’t handle the side effects of the drugs they are given.
        The entire system from top to bottom is about making a profit, and they do it by maintaining your illness with drugs, surgery or hospital stays.
        None of it is geared to making and keeping you healthy.
        That part of the system, the chiropractors , acupuncture,and alternative healing with Vitamins and health food and all of public health costs 3 billion. If fact we owe our longevity not to all the drugs and illness intervention which gives us 5 yrs, but to cleaning up the water, and food supply, vaccines, and penicillin ,which gave us 20 yrs. of longevity. The very things that republicans are against.

  • dpaano

    I think that those Republicans who thing that ACA should remain and be modified over time should get in touch with their out-of-touch representatives and tell them to quit spending hard-earned taxpayer money on a doomed vote! It’s getting totally out of hand…..53 votes in the House!! Unbelievable that these idiots can’t see the writing on the wall! Me think they doth protest too much!!!

  • FT66

    American people are not stupid. They understand when one talks about “American Dream”. The dream is not only having money and have no clue at
    all what to do when an unexpected sickeness strikes. Having money doesn’t mean that you have to use it: in buying fancy cars, have luxious house without thinking about your health. Having all these, doesn’t guarantee anyone that they will never fall sick. No one should separate having required stuff from required Health Care. These two Things are like identical twins. They are always together and no one should never ever try to separate them.

  • elw

    And those numbers will continue to improve as the friends and families of the close to 13 million people who have benefited from the law talk about the positive affects it has had on their lives. You can make up all the stories you want, tell lies and make crazy claims, but none of that can beat the power of word of mouth from person to person. The GOPs misinformation campaign will come back the slap them in the face in November as will the continued votes to repeal the law. The make a lot of noise and are good at confusing people, but they have picked a losing fight and they are just too blind-sighted to see that.

  • Douglas Keith

    “a 49 percent majority”

    There is no such thing. If the number is less than 50, then it’s not a majority. How someone can write about statistics and not know this is incredible.

    • merr7242

      Actually, if the vote is split more than 2 ways, it is possible that 49% is the higher of the other numbers.

      • Douglas Keith

        If the vote is split more than 2 ways, it is possible that 49% is the higher of the other numbers … but it would not be a majority — it would be a plurality.

  • Pamby50

    It is costing 1.45 million for each vote to repeal the ACA. What could we have done with over $52 million? I could think of a lot of things. I didn’t hear them saying we need offsets for this waste of federal funds. Oh no, lets just keep voting to repeal the law. For every vote they make, they should put an equal amount into something they want to cut. Like, food stamps, unemployment benefits or even veteran’s benefits. That would be interesting.

    • itsfun

      How much has it cost to try and implement the obamacare tax?

  • Adam Smith

    Is not the power to force you to buy health insurance the same power to force you to buy something else?

    • Sand_Cat

      No one is forced to give you those other things free if you don’t buy them, and if you were even slightly as intelligent as the man whose name you have chosen to steal, you could have figured that out all by yourself.

  • brian199511

    America is the last civilized country to get some semblance of universal health care insurance. Norway has had it for over a century and their economy, social programs and quality of life is among the best in the world. The ACA has helped 6 million people plus the 5 million on expanded Medicaid. Any law that helps 11 million people seems great to me.

  • Bryan Blake

    I suffered for well over 20 years without health insurance as my disabilities worsened. I was on government health programs and finally as a veteran I was able to obtain VA care. I only become eligible for Medicare in May. During those years I had to file (pro se) bankruptcy when Bush changed the laws. Doctors, hospitals and other providers lost almost $80,000 because I had no insurance. If only the ACA had been around then health care would have been much simpler. Medical providers should be paid for their services and the ACA remedies that problem.

  • itsfun

    If the obamacare tax is so wonderful, why are Democratic politicians running away from it so fast? Maybe the November elections will tell us why.

    • peggyduncan

      What do you mean by running away from it?

      • itsfun

        trying to change the subject in debates, now talking about how to fix it, not calling it obamacare, but the affordable care act.

        • peggyduncan

          Well, I don’t watch Faux News so I’m not seeing this. We’ve always discussed ways to make it even better. Republicans will choose to not call it ObamaCare because it’s now working so well. And what a petty thing for you to focus on instead of the millions of people who have health insurance for the first time in their lives or for many, many years.

          And don’t talk about those who lost their policies due to insurance companies cancelling them when they didn’t meet certain standards…no one said a word when insurance companies were cancelling policies because people got sick…not a word! The people who lost their policies got better ones on…the ones who looked. I was one of those people.

          • itsfun

            What does FOX news have to do with it? Republicans are the ones calling it obamacare. The Democrats are trying to get everyone to call it the affordable care act. The idea of this plan was to insure people that didn’t have insurance. Its not working. The reported numbers are only 2% of the uninsured are now insured. I realize many of you believe Americans are too stupid to know what they want for insurance coverage, so you and some liberal politicians can be their mommies and daddies and order them what to have and what to pay. You have no idea if people have gotten better policies or not. No one should lose their insurance for getting sick. One simple law would have fixed that. People with existing conditions should have been made eligible for Medicaid or Medicare. You must not have seen any recent polls, or you wouldn’t be saying the obamacare tax is working.

          • peggyduncan

            I hear on Faux News it’s called a tax, as you refer to it. But no sense wasting our time typing. Time will tell.

          • itsfun

            OK, but its not FOX news that calls it a tax. The US Supreme Court said it is a tax. That is the only way it is constitutional. It was ruled a tax, because it is unconstitutional to mandate Americans to purchase a product. It is only legal as a tax. That is why the IRS is in charge of administration of the tax. Just one more thing, always try to have fun.

          • peggyduncan

            Yes, I know that! But Faux News and people who watch it are the only entities that use the word. Just as those same people say Democrat Party. That’s to appease people who hate America and hate paying taxes.

          • itsfun

            Are you saying everyone that doesn’t like paying high taxes hates America? I hope you aren’t one of the people that say all Republicans are racist, hate old people, are waging a war on women and on and on and on. People can have different opinions and outlooks on things without accusing people of hating America. Just look at what a Ebony magazine editor did to Juan Williams son because he has a conservative view point on some things.

          • peggyduncan

            Oh no. I hate paying high taxes. But I don’t mind paying taxes for the good of the masses. Hate wars but would pay more if it went toward good public schools. I use to align more with the Republican party of yesterday. Not anymore.

          • itsfun

            Anyone that likes war has a short circuit in their brain. Taxes for roads, police, fire fighters, etc are needed for all of us. Don’t take this wrong, but I don’t think more taxes for the public schools are the answer. One of the states with the highest school tax has one of the worst records. I don’t know how to do it, but somehow attitudes need to be changed. Kids have to want to be there, not hate being there. Just telling kids they will have better careers and more money because of school doesn’t work. I come from a union family and was a Democrat until Jimmy Carter.

          • peggyduncan

            I agree. Older teachers afraid of computers are still in the classroom. Too much teaching to pass a test instead of critical thinking. Private schools aren’t the answer because they can teach whatever, and I don’t want my tax dollars going there.

          • itsfun

            Exactly, it seems that the children are being indoctrinated into what the system wants them to learn, and not how to think. Sometimes they even want to rewrite history or the constitution. I read last week how one school changed the second amendment to fit what they thought and taught that to the students. Who do these kids believe anymore, the President has been caught in lies, just about every politician lies to us. Their schools rewrite history. I think they should teach how to look at all sides of an issue and how to research the issues, so they can make educated decisions about the issues. Just last week my 16 year old niece told me the whole world hates us. I asked why she said that, she replied, thats what I learned in school. I suggested that maybe she should do some research on her own and try to learn if we are so hated by the whole world. That won’t happen.