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Friday, October 28, 2016

Will Mitt Romney’s “bold choice” to pick Paul Ryan as his running mate be a true game-changer for the Republican campaign? According to a new USAT/Gallup poll, the answer appears to be no. While Ryan may have conservatives — especially Tea Partiers — over the moon, the general public does not share this enthusiasm.

42 percent of the 1,006 adults surveyed said they viewed Ryan as a “fair” or “poor” choice, compared to just 39 percent who said he was an “excellent” or “pretty good” choice. This makes Romney’s decision to tap Ryan the least popular vice presidential pick since George H.W. Bush selected Dan Quayle in 1988.

Just 17 percent say that adding Ryan to the ticket makes them more likely to vote for Romney — about the same bump that Sarah Palin provided for McCain. Furthermore, only 48 percent believe that Ryan would be qualified to serve as president should Romney be unable to, while 29 percent do not and 23 percent are undecided. Only Quayle and Sarah Palin received a lower rate of confidence.

In defense of these numbers, Romney campaign pollster Neil Newhouse blamed the low marks on Ryan not being a nationwide household name. He told USA Today that “All these numbers indicate is the simple fact that Congressman Paul Ryan was not a nationally known figure prior to being named as Gov. Romney’s vice-presidential pick.”

In fairness, Newhouse’s assertion is not just spin; as The Washington Post points out, Ryan is virtually unknown in the critical swing state of Florida. With that in mind, the onslaught of negative headlines that greeted Romney and Ryan in Florida newspapers this morning should be especially troubling to the campaign. The Romney campaign must race to define Ryan’s legislative record — otherwise, the Obama campaign will do it for them.

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  • WhutHeSaid

    Surprise, surprise. Americans dislike the Tea Party immensely — why would they like the Tea Party’s heroes?

    • Dan Betlej

      1. Yes… America and Americans do not want the tea party… Mr. Ryan is hell bent on recreating America by destroying it. All of this so as to give that top 1/2% so many tax breaks that they will pay none. Everyone will be out of work so that tax base is gone. This will make the troubles in Europe look like nothing. America used to be the industrial power in the entire world, used to be.

      • The person who is attempting to recreate America and as a result down-size it is Obama. He is championing the decline of America through his idealogical governing.
        To Obama, America is the 1% and must be downsized to become part of the global 99%. Obama is in fact the plunderer not the restorer.
        Obama will use debt as a weapon of mass destruction to down-size Merica, making Americans second-class citizens in their own country.

        • rockinthebayinFlorida

          You must be part of the 1% who will be hit…

          • That 1% in reality is the entire USA. If reelected Obama will continue to plunder America, further declining her standing in the world, heaping unsustainable debt upon the nation. And those entitlements that most Americans rely on will be redused due to austerity measures, drastically higher taxes, an a possible demise.

          • Incredible as it is, there’re a 99% who felt themselves 1%. Do you think someone as Toni Risalvato is 1%? He won’t be writing here.

          • You Better Know It He’s Just A Butt Kisser Of The Rich Man Another American Taliban TROLL!!! He More Than Likely Still Living At Home With His Mother!!!

          • Toni I imagine that you’ve forgotten that the debt you are so concerned about started long before Obama became President. The policies that started the decline and the rapid increase in the debt are still for the most part still in place. The GOP has not allowed and thing to change the dynamic. Bush tax cuts…still in place. One of the two wars on the credit…still in place. The Medicare prescription not paid for…still in place. Added to the Bush recession the worst in nearly 80 years you have a drastically difficult problem to solve. Romney/Ryan only have more of the same to offer. BTW, if you ask the rest of the world our standing has improved. Maybe you did not notice the world cheering for our Olympians in London. The world did.

          • ChristoD

            Lynda, ole Toni should also be made aware of another FACT. The overwhelming amout of the National Debt was created by……REPUBLICAN administrations. Reagan, Bush I and Bush II are the culprits AND they had REPUBLICAN control of the House AND Senate when this happened. AT LEAST $12 trillion of the National Debt was done on THEIR watch. Much from cuts for the rich via tax cut legislation that THEY passed. Now the SOB’s want to DICTATE how to cut back on programs they don’t like because THEY created the problem. Only in America can they do this and make the rest of us think that the tax and spend DEMS. did it. F— them and their a—— Tea Party lambs.

          • delroy brown

            You are one numbskull. You need to stop listening to Rush and FAUX news and do some reading.

          • Toni…perhaps you should break the Xanix in half next time.

          • William Deutschlander

            Ignorance is Bliss and you are certainly Blissfull.

          • Poor Poor Tony, no the rest is the 99% who will be hurt by the Ryan Budget. Your comment is supporting the 1% who will be helped by this union. Funny, the latest Gallup Poll shows Ryan is not the golden boy the repukes are claiming him to be. He just turned off the swing voters with this pick!!!!!!

          • Plunder really. Plunder what? Is there anything left after Bush tossed out bonuses and neglected to leave any information out of spite. Bush spit on this country and it’s OK. Who decided Our President has time to plunder unless you are talking about health insurance for my grandchildren. Unless he is trying to plunder billionaires who hide their money in Cancun, or was that Romney with his car elevator in his home. No empathy & the truth of God does not spell R & R. Romney and his mini me. This whole mess is sickening. I admire President Obama who is a fighter for all the people, not just his so rich they will never be able to spend the money rich. I’m out before I throw up in my Romney stew. Yet he has been called everything but his name. Children!! !!

        • George Bush already did that.

        • Maureen Morena Solis Hice

          Another delusional person drinking too much of that Tea Party jargon…Do you have a Medicare card or take Social Security in that 1-2% category??

          Recreate? All you right wingers are about take,take,take and no give..You want the working poor or the middle class(what is left of it) to foot the tax bill and you folks reap the reward…It makes me SICK…

      • delroy brown

        These guys do not tell you what they will do hence you vote for one thing and get something else .Remember the mid term. It was all about jobs with the republican tea party. Once they got in they blocked every job measure proposed by the president and countered with tax cut for the so call job creators, voter suppression laws, anti abortion law and Health Care repeal. Both Romney and Ryan proposed eliminating capital gain tax. Under this law Romney and the guys on wall street pays no tax. The middle class would fill the shortfall by service cut and tax increases.

    • Any Body With Any Sense Know What Kind Of Budget Plan Paul Ryan Was Selling, The Catholic Church Let It Be Known When They Ripped Ryan A New Ass Hole Telling He Don’t Use The Catholic Church When He First Try To Sell” His IMMORAL BUDGET BILL!!!!” Romney Hood And Little Paul Needs To Go Back To The Drawing Board And Come Up With Something Better Then What They Are Trying To Sell!!! A Mormon And A Moral Is NOT What This Country Needs To Be In Control!!!!

    • ChristoD

      Are you implying/stating that the current day frauds known as the Tea Party are heroes ? If you are let me remind all who read this that the TP (short for Tea Party, or in the case of the current day fraud version of the TP, or Toilet Paper) did not want the banks or GM and Chrysler rescued which would have brought on millions of jobs lost and the second American depression. That makes them heroes ? WTF WhutHeSaid, are you whacked ?

      • WhutHeSaid

        Paul Ryan is a hero to the Tea Party. Try rereading the post — slowly this time.

        • ChristoD

          WhutHeSaid, thanks for posting whatever you wrote. This old man often reads stuff wrong BUT, I got a chance to make my point so, keep those confusing to old men posts coming ! 😉

  • WhutHeSaid

    Wait until people get to know him and his policies. How low can the poll numbers go? Do they record negative numbers?

  • The two Rs are Bad Cats. Anyone who votes for’em are nuts!

  • SchoolBoardMember

    A bankster and his congressional sock puppet. What more can we ask for!

    • CAThinker

      Yes – this is the Dream Team for the Obama camp… So it’s Dumber and Dumberer running for the Talipublicans…

      • rideonWI

        CAThinker – anyone who nonesty believes in the Obama camp must be one of those who enjoy all the “freebies” your president hands out at my expense.

        • CAThinker

          If this is an example of your deductive reasoning capabilities – FAIL! What makes you believe that I enjoy any freebies? Geez, you’re a moron – as it turns out, I’m one of those that will see an increase in that portion of my income over $250K and happy to pay it… I don’t have a problem sharing the ladder I climbed with anyone else that has the determination I did… You’re a moronic puke and a waste of electrons…

          • jarheadgene

            You’re my HERO CAThinker. ……I MEAN IT!

          • CAThinker

            Thanks JHG. If you consider my comments heroic, then I am in the company of heroes here, since there are so many of like mind. By the way, if your use of Jar Head is reference to being a Marine, thanks for your service and I’m proud to say my only child, an 18 year old son, just became a member of those ranks. Now more than ever I pray for wisdom in the highest office, so when he is called upon to do his duty, that he does so for just and honorable causes.

          • jarheadgene

            Yes, Jarhead is because I was 4 years active duty USMC. I share your concerns for your son. I have a 14 yr. old son also, and I do not want some Chicken Hawk draft dodger like Romney to send our kids to IRAN, which is what he seems chomping at the bit to do. Just like CHENEY 6 time draft dodger of VietNam sent my nephew to IRAQ for a lie. I despise the chicken hawks. It is one thing if you never served, and you weren’t eligible until after the draft was repealed, i.e. Obama. He seems to have respect for Human Life and American Casualties, to the point that a lot of Al Queda attacks are now by drones. But to have someone like Cheney or Romney at the helm….. they think only of themselves.

        • Whittier5

          @rideonWI, there you’ve gone and gotten your Presidents mixed up again!! That was W Bush who was handing out “all the ‘freebies” … at your expense.”
          $2.8T to Big Banks and Brokerages all over the Globe.
          $1T for his bogus war with many Ten$ of Billion$ going to KBR or Halliburton on No-Bid Contracts.
          Ten$ of $Billion$ to his friends in Big Pharma to pay for Part D Prescription Coverage
          Ten$ of $Billion$ for the war he forgot about in Afghani.
          The list goes on …

          The Conservative “Obama camp” has been trying to collect some of that back, but those fools with money, the RepubliCONS are still enjoying counting your and OUR money at your expense.

      • rideonWI

        your a fool with money – an idiot. I fully intend to keep as much of my income as possible. I worked my ass off for it and really don’t plan to give it a way to the freloading assholes in our country

        • frivolous01

          I really don’t think someone that doesn’t know the difference between ‘your’ and ‘you’re’ should be calling anyone else an idiot. Just my opinion.

        • oldtack

          W !
          I am in awe of your intellect and command of the English language. Are you the typical Republican – or a cut above?

        • WhutHeSaid

          And I don’t like giving mine to greedy, unappreciative assholes like you. So please send me back my taxes that you’ve snorted up over the years and then move to Antarctica where you can be a selfish puke to your black little heart’s content. Good riddance, I say.

  • rideonWI

    Rep. Ryan straightened out Wisconsin. Given the opportunity, he WILL straighten out the our great country

    • BDD1951

      How did he straighten out Wisconsin? How come they have such a mess?

    • Whittier5

      Ryan did what?? You’ve been drinking too much of the Chief Oshkosh beer.

      I don’t want him anywhere closer to the levers of power in “our Great Country” (sorry, @rideon, but I had to correct your ‘dissing’ of America.

    • td386632

      Nearby Janesville had the seventh highest unemployment rate in the state at 9 percent in April, down slightly from 9.7 percent in March. In April 2011, Janesville’s jobless rate was 9.8 percent,
      So RideonWI, have you been to Janesville lately? Probably not! It is a dead town. You can buy a $300,000 home for about $75,000. Wow! He sure turned Wisconsin around. How much money does the Koch brothers pay him. Get your head out of your a– rideonWI andactually ride through Wisconsin and see how Ryan and Gov. Walker are ruining this state for years to come

      • rockinthebayinFlorida

        That’s not to say anything about the public labor force that got turned on its ear. Oh yeah, I know everybody on the public work force was supposed to work for $10.00 per hr. with no extra bones in the bag (insurance, disability, etc…). They are just supposed to just lay down and let the dear governor piss all over them and say “…I really enjoyed that, give me more, Please!”

  • You notice that the past few years the percentage of favorable has gone down; demonstrates the frustration many Americans have in our government. I do not believe anyone picked by Romney would helped, though people have to admit, Ryan is willing to propose discussion on a problem that needs to be addressed today, not down the road.

  • rideonWI

    how’s that “Hope and Change” working out

  • rideonWI

    talk about nuts cases..

  • BDD1951

    It’s early in the game. Hopefully it will get worse for R/R as it goes along.

  • harolddent

    The Ryan Budget has been the talk of the town since Newt called it right wing social engineering.

    • The social justice meister is Obama Mr. Redistribution of all our wealth. He is a globalist, who believes America is the 1% and the global arena is the 99%. That America is not deserving of it’s wealth, and it should be down-sized and given to the world.
      Obama will use debt as a weapon to destroy, down-size America to a second-class country.

  • Since Obamacare will be stealing $1 billion per week from medicare for the next TEN YEARS,How is it possible for Ryan’s plan to be any less unpopular than that? How can anyone say his bipartisan budget plan is less popular than Obama’s budget? The Ryan budget has been passed by the congress twice while the Obama budget couldn’t even get 1 vote in either the senate or the house, that includes every democrat. Only the stupid among us will vote for Obama again

    • Deb

      The Affordable Health Care Act will save 700 million/week in waste from Medicare while increasing benefits foe seniors. This talk about medicare cuts is a lie from the GOP spin machine.

      • CAThinker

        What they’re not getting in their lack of critical thought is that the ACA will absorb a lot of the Medicare costs – if it’s universal, that means seniors too, so no point in paying for it or accounting it twice. And the statement that Ryan’s budget also cuts Medicare, just as Obama did, is deceitful – Ryan won’t have ACA so there is no way for seniors to get comparable care… Talipublicans are liars and do what liars do – they lie.

    • Whittier5

      @Todd, whatever “ObamaCare” will or will not do in actuality, it will do the same as MittCare in MA. Newt thought it was a great plan – until 3 weeks before he announced he was running.

      National MittCare (“ObamaCare” to you) is supported by over 60% in all polls. Maybe you should get with your neighbors???

    • metrognome3830

      “Only the stupid among us will vote for Obama again.”

      I guess that means you will be voting for Obama, Todd.

  • ed6305

    This only goes to prove, not everyone who was pooled understands the importance of fiscal responsibility. Ryan may be the first VP with any real understanding of how to balance a budget. Comparing Palin to Ryan is foolishness. This is not about a popularity contest, it’s about who can make serious decisions on how to fix the economy and restore fiscal responsibility in America. When Ryan has a little time to address the American voters and present the facts in an intelligent manner, he will win over Republicans, Independents and Democrat’s who care about the financial future of America. Just imagine Joe Biden in a debate with Ryan. Joe Biden will sound like an idiot and someone who is out-of-touch with reality. Joe needs to be admitted to a rest home and Obama needs to move to Cuba or Venezuela, where his Marxist beliefs are a perfect fit. Sincerely, Ed OMeara, Jr. Acworth, Ga. 30101

    • Deb

      Joe Biden will wipe the floor with this Ann Rand libertarian. He wants to extinguish the middle class.

      • ed6305

        Look up the definition of senile and you will get a cleared picture of what to expect from Joe Biden during a debate. Face reality, not your political imagination. It’s time for you and all the other Obama fans to ask who is going to pay for all the Trillions of debt Obama has created, when he, Obama, promised to cut the debt by 50%. Yes, I know, Bush caused. Regardless who anyone wishes to blame for the growing debt, it’s real and it’s growing rapidly. Someone has to get in office who understands it has to stop, and it’s perfectly obvious to any intelligent rational human being, Obama has proven he will never stop spending. Assuming Americans care about their future, they best recognize this spending has to stop and we need another leader who is willing and, more importantly, able to stop the spending. Obama thinks borrowing and/or printing more money is the answer. The answer is first to stop, then figure out what needs to be cut from the budgets and to put those budget reductions into effect as quickly as possible. Ask yourself, if your checking account balance shows ZERO, can you expect your bank to honor any checks you might write? No. See, anyone understands when you are out of money, you can no longer make purchases. Wake up and recognize Obama and Biden are completely out-of-touch with reality. They are Marxist from top to bottom. This is America and Marxism does not work.
        If you prefer Obama & Biden, Cuba has lots of room for new Immigrants. Good Luck and enjoy living under the sun of Communism. ED

        • Whittier5

          You are kidding, aren’t you, Ed?? If not, you need to start taking your meds again.

          Ed, I am not a supporter of O, but the GOP leaves no alternative. But, I am a supporter of the Truth.

          Your “buddy” Ryan helped create this GOP Fiasco we are living through and ran up $7T in National Debt PLUS still on-going Compounding Interest.

          Obama has practically single-handedly bent the Skyrocketing Spending Curve that Bush left US. With a cooperative Congress, Obama will start re-paying Bush & Ryan’s National Debt = just like every other Democratic Admin has done, but only Ike among Repubs has done.

          Study, Ed, then you may be prepared to Comment sensibly.

          • ed6305

            Thanks for your insight. Unfortunately, we have a difference in opinion. I’m anything, but an Obama fan and could not imagine how anyone, and I mean anyone, could vote him a second term. Frankly, I cannot imagine how any American with any intelligence could vote for Obama. He has done nothing, except make speeches since coming into office. As for his spending, it’s beyond irresponsible. Look, Romney & Ryan are not my choice for the White House, but, they are the only chance we have to stop the spending and Obama Care. Really! It all boils down to saving this country from fiscal destruction. We could never imagine ourselves writing checks for money we do not have in our bank account. These politicians need to be replaced, even if it’s one by one. At some point, every politician must be held accountable for their actions. The Political system must be changed. The question is how. Our national debt is the scariest thing I have ever seen. You may think the Democrat’s have acted responsibly, I beg to differ. Honestly, you cannot name me one Democrat or Republican that has acted fiscally responsible, not one! They are all guilty and must be replaced over time. Right now, the most immediate problem is Obama and those members of the House & Senate up for election. I say replace as many as possible and eventually those remaining in office will get the message. Talk about the Truth. We have only one option for securing honest Politicians, replace every dishonest politician. Have a great evening. Good luck in picking the right guy for President! ED

          • ExPAVIC

            Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed

            Please stop, the pumps can’t keep up with your flow rate. How do you do it?
            Do what? Put out crap faster than the pumps can move it.

        • hellowoman

          Since my comments with links are not going through, I am pasting the article. I wanted to point out some very interesting facts. This can be verified on the independent fact check websites. This is called “Obama spending binge never happened.” In summary, the first two years of spending came from the Bush Budget. Please read from Marketwatch.

          WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — Of all the falsehoods told about President Barack Obama, the biggest whopper is the one about his reckless spending spree.

          As would-be president Mitt Romney tells it: “I will lead us out of this debt and spending inferno.”

          Almost everyone believes that Obama has presided over a massive increase in federal spending, an “inferno” of spending that threatens our jobs, our businesses and our children’s future.

          But it didn’t happen. Although there was a big stimulus bill under Obama, federal spending is rising at the slowest pace since Dwight Eisenhower brought the Korean War to an end in the 1950s.

          Even hapless Herbert Hoover managed to increase spending more than Obama has.

          Here are the facts, according to the official government statistics:

          • In the 2009 fiscal year — the last of George W. Bush’s presidency — federal spending rose by 17.9% from $2.98 trillion to $3.52 trillion. Check the official numbers at the Office of Management and Budget.

          • In fiscal 2010 — the first budget under Obama — spending fell 1.8% to $3.46 trillion.

          • In fiscal 2011, spending rose 4.3% to $3.60 trillion.

          • In fiscal 2012, spending is set to rise 0.7% to $3.63 trillion, according to the Congressional Budget Office’s estimate of the budget that was agreed to last August.

          • Finally in fiscal 2013 — the final budget of Obama’s term — spending is scheduled to fall 1.3% to $3.58 trillion. Read the CBO’s latest budget outlook.

          Over Obama’s four budget years, federal spending is on track to rise from $3.52 trillion to $3.58 trillion, an annualized increase of just 0.4%.

          There has been no huge increase in spending under the current president, despite what you hear.

          Why do people think Obama has spent like a drunken sailor? It’s in part because of a fundamental misunderstanding of the federal budget.

          What people forget (or never knew) is that the first year of every presidential term starts with a budget approved by the previous administration and Congress. The president only begins to shape the budget in his second year. It takes time to develop a budget and steer it through Congress — especially in these days of congressional gridlock.

          The 2009 fiscal year, which Republicans count as part of Obama’s legacy, began four months before Obama moved into the White House. The major spending decisions in the 2009 fiscal year were made by George W. Bush and the previous Congress.

          Like a relief pitcher who comes into the game with the bases loaded, Obama came in with a budget in place that called for spending to increase by hundreds of billions of dollars in response to the worst economic and financial calamity in generations.

          • td386632

            Well said! Sad that these people cannot understand this!

          • oldtack

            Very good article – open for discussion – but Good.


          • Dave_dido

            Thank you for this very informative, clearly stated comment. It won’t matter to the racists and the idealogues who populate these threads, but I think there may be a few rational readers who will gain insight from you. Please continue to get this message out.

        • oldtack

          You sound like the far right wing-nut Ultra Rep conservatives and much like the far left wing -nut Liberal whatever they may be.

          You have some good points obscured by a wild eyed attack mode. Present your argument in a clear concise mode rather than in a disjointed ramble. You do have some good points open to discussion but not in your attack format. This is not to say I agree with your statements but that’s what a forum is for.

          Have a pleasant evening – and don’t embroil yourself in the evening comedy shows that masquerade as NEWS.

          • ed6305

            I guess from your comments you have no position, except to play the role of a moderator with all the right answers & no opinions. Interesting. You must feel like you are a political science professor grading a paper. I should be somewhat pleased you at least confirmed I had some good points. But, even with that observation you covered yourself by saying this is not to say you agree with my statements. Talk about rambling, or better yet, double talk. Let’s make a deal that makes both our time more valuable, no further comments. If you feel Obama is the right guy, then vote for him and see what happens. Good luck and I hope you have a relaxing evening. Regards, ED

        • WhutHeSaid

          Do your jaws ever get tired of flapping out the same old whoppers? At least you recognize that Bush caused this mess. Perhaps that was a mistaken moment of lucidity on your part.

          What you shameless liars so conveniently forget is that Bush was the TARP engineer, and Bush blew through the Clinton surplus faster than a crackhead with a winning lottery ticket.

          Obama knows full well that the economy has to recover in order to seriously attack the deficit, and serious economists agree. The GOP knows this too, which is why they are obstructing every attempt by Obama to spur the economy no matter the damage to the country — all so that they can get into power and repeat the Bush debacle on an even grander scale.

          You wouldn’t know a Marxist if one came up and bit you on the ass. All you know is endless whining about Obama (because he’s black, of course) and telling your whoppers because you are a greedy, selfish deadbeat unwilling to pay your share.

          Give me back my tax dollars that you’ve snorted up over the years like a drunken aardvark, and then move to Antarctica where you can be free of responsibility and nobody has to endure your pitiful whining.

          • ed6305

            It appears you must have missed the first two years of Obama’s presidency when the Democrat’s had control of the White House, the House and the Senate. He had absolute total control do pass anything. I guess his priority during those two years were something other than fixing the economy, as he promised, or creating jobs, as he promised, or reducing the debt by 50%, as he promised. To mention just a couple of his ‘failed’ promises.

            I strongly suggest you need to take a closer review of ALL the members of the House and Senate. These are the fools that voted for all these expenditures that have us at $16 Trillion dollar deficit. Bush may have been President, but who passes the Bills into Laws and approves the spending? It sure isn’t the President.

            Now, you say I would not know a Marxist if one came up and bit me on the ass. Well, my friend, I have read both of Obama’s books and he makes it perfectly clear what he defines as a Marxist and proudly claims to be one, like his father, mother and grandfather in Hawaii claimed to be. You might consider reading the new book: “The Communist”. It will help you to better understand how Obama was mentored and molded into a Marxist. You have a lot to learn. By the way, it has nothing to do with race. Marxism has nothing to do with race. A member of any race can believe in Marxism.

            Next, you presume to lecture me on paying my fair share. Who are you to tell anyone, much less me, to pay my fair share. I can assure you, I’m 69 years old and I can guarantee you I paid more taxes in 2011 than you have paid in your lifetime. Of course, I am assuming you have been employed, and earned enough to qualify you to pay taxes. After reading your comments, I’m more inclined to believe you are a life long member of the entitlement crowd who anxiously await their monthly checks for sitting on their ass watching TV and sending nasty emails about subjects they know absolutely nothing about.

            My friend, I have never complained about paying my income tax obligations. You see, many people who are hard working and successful, and financially responsible, are proud to pay their income taxes. On the other hand, America has a growing number of deadbeats, like yourself, who are only interested in Obama’s free lunch programs and entitlement programs because they are too damn lazy to get off their ass and go to work. My guess, you probably went to a liberal college and got your degree in some social-
            justice program and after a brief job search, discovered you have no job opportunities. And, then found the answer – apply for unemployment. Typical solution and the perfect candidate to be a Obama supporter.

            Lastly, I am not whining. I think, if you read your comments closely, you are the one whining and looking for the handout. Well, dial ” O ” for Obama and maybe your guy will continue sending you checking for doing nothing. After all, that’s what you want out of life. I pray you wake up before the election and recognize you could have a future, but putting your future in Obama’s hands will cost ” YOU ” dearly. And, time will prove me right! Regards, ED

          • WhutHeSaid

            Perhaps we can excuse your McCarthy-era ‘communist boogeyman’ arguments due to your advanced age and memory loss issues. There hasn’t been a communist scare in this country since well into the last century.

            Let me ask you a question: Do you receive Medicare? Of course you do. Why aren’t you refusing this ‘socialist’ benefit? Let’s see you talk your way out of that one.

            Next, it’s interesting that you ask me who I am to lecture you on paying your fair share. I’m one of the many taxpayers who have funded, and continue to fund, the benefits that you and others enjoyed for your entire life up to this very day — that includes myself. You claim that you paid more taxes than me in 2011 as an exaggerated attempt to prove that your are immensely successful and therefore somehow more credible than others. Unfortunately for you, this is not a plutocracy, and your opinion isn’t more important than the poorest of the poor. In this country one individual’s vote is just as weighty as the next — no matter the income of the voter. That’s the way this country is supposed to work, since you’ve forgotten.

            In addition to being a pompous and condescending old coot, you obviously believe that people who don’t adhere to your political beliefs must therefore be less successful than you. Perhaps you would care to lecture Mr. Buffett and Mr. Gates on the folly of their beliefs and why you, ed6305, can teach them how to be successful and scare away the communists hiding under their beds to boot.

            I’ve done very well for myself and stand to see my taxes raised by Obama as well. The difference is that I know the middle class is the economic engine in this country, and I’m not so greedy that I can’t understand why you don’t kill the goose that lays the golden eggs. There are, of course, other reasons that utterly elude people like you. I wasn’t always successful, and I’m not so full of myself that I don’t remember this as well as the society that allowed me to get where I am. These facts have apparently escaped your powers of critical thought, and I can only guess that you must have gotten cheated on your education despite your self-proclaimed immense wealth and success. I suggest you seek a refund on your tuition.

            Finally, your whining is the most pitiable of all. Instead of passing on some wisdom accumulated over the years you are out here reliving communism scares from 50 years ago and whining about a democratically elected President as if we don’t know about that white hood gathering dust in your closet. It’s one thing to criticize a President because you don’t like his policies. It’s quite another to trot out thinly-veiled racism in the form of trying to attack his legitimacy with innuendo about Marxism and Communism. Any fool can write a book suggesting that anyone is anything, but how the bigots have come out of the woodwork for this particular President.

            I originally thought you were just another greedy ingrate out here telling whoppers because you are a cheapskate. I know realize that it’s a bit more sordid than that — my apologies for the mistake. Please snort another Medicare Viagra and enjoy the rest of your evening.

          • ed6305

            You are wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong are virtually all your assumptions. First of all, I’s 69 years of age and still employed full time, which means I’m still productive and my company is able to provide me with complete medical coverage until my 72nd Birthday.
            And, for those people like yourself, who are not totally informed about insurance coverage, medi-care and social security. Everyone has the choice of even delaying their social security benefits until they reach 72 years of age. So, that means I am still paying the maximum required towards social security, and I might add, I have been paying the maximum every year since I began working. So, you are not funding my social security benefits and most likely not paying the maximum annually.
            As for my employer, I have never been employed by the Government, except when I served my 6 years in the military. My guess the military was something that did not appeal to you.
            By the way, I am not the one condemning someone for their political view. You should spend a minute and reflect on your comments and name calling. I sense a great deal of frustration and anger in your comments, which demonstrates your lack of maturity. As for Mr. Buffett, I respect his accomplishments, but detest his failure to pay his corporate taxes. The last report I read indicated he owes in excess of $1 Billion dollars in taxes and is in litigation with the I.R.S. And, yes, he is an Obama buddy. Makes me wonder why. I guess, like most of the White House Cabinet members, he feels Obama will give him a free pass on paying taxes. Mr. Gates has a pretty interesting history too. And, your are wrong about me or anyone else capable of teaching them how to be successful, unless you are more specific about your definition of successful.
            If you have done so well for yourself and welcome the increase in your income taxes in 2013, that’s wonderful. I completely agree, it’s our civic duty to pay income taxes. The more one earns the more one should pay in income taxes. I think we are on something. What we probably disagree about is that 47% of Americans do not pay any taxes. In my opinion, everyone who benefits from America should contribute their fair share and nothing is not a fair share. As for my education, I received an outstanding education and was wise enough to get my Masters in Marketing. My education has been my best investment in time and money.
            Now, you say I am whining. I see it the other way around. I have spent a life time of helping people succeed in business, eduction and life. And, I have discovered many individuals like yourself who cannot be helped. You make it clear in your comments, you have all the answers and you have a closed mind to new ideas. You are so caught up in labeling people for their viewpoint. I honestly feel sorry for you and wish you could get past your anger and frustrations with whatever has happened to disappoint you in your career path. Honestly, I do not get your references to viagra. Here again, I can only assume viagra must have some deep meaning in your life. I do not use drugs of any kind.
            I sincerely hope you are able to find some happiness in your life. Politics is not something that will bring happiness in your life, that for sure. Good Luck. Regards, ED

          • WhutHeSaid

            I may be wrong in some of my assumptions, but not all, and certainly not in my assumption that you have an undeserved sense of superiority and exaggerated estimation of your own importance.

            I do, in fact, pay the maximum in Social Security taxes and have for some years. I’m fairly certain that your claim to have paid the maximum from your first day of employment is another of your ‘exaggerations’. I am, however, happy to hear that you feel it is your ‘civic duty’ to pay your taxes even if you take the indirect approach of complaining about what everybody else pays. What I’m surprised about is that you plan to accept Social Security or Medicare at all given the fact that you seem to feel the urge to warn the world about evil communists hiding in every closet, however, listening to your arguments for any length of time provides clues to the real underlying motives — which I will address in a moment.

            I see that your inflated ego does not permit you to successfully conceal your jealousy of Mr. Buffet’s success. I don’t think he’s quite as silly as to expect a ‘free ride’ on his taxes despite what you may claim. I suspect the fact that your salary is what Mr. Buffett would consider a ’rounding error’ is the source of some of your angst with respect to this topic.

            Your claim that 47% of Americans don’t pay taxes is another old chestnut, now isn’t it? I assume that you are referring to those with a low enough income that they avoid a federal income tax liability. Much of this is a product of the Bush tax cuts. The reality, however, is that most of these households pay a disproportional amount of other taxes in relation to their incomes. They are the people near the poverty line, and they don’t have much wiggle room between paying more taxes and eating. I can understand your jealousy for Mr. Buffett’s success, but I suspect that even you, in your more lucid moments, must feel silly to envy those flirting with poverty.

            I don’t have a closed mind to ‘new’ ideas, rather, I have a deep dislike for fabrications from those who should know better. I can see that your irrational dislike for this President has driven you to post foolish and outdated charges of Communism and Marxism. This is the proverbial dog whistle favored by those who are irrationally displeased with a black man occupying the Presidency. You need to explain why a (admittedly, self proclaimed) highly educated and successful man would come out here and post charges of Marxism and Communism against a sitting President and Vice President. It’s not about any book that you may have read — that’s incidental. I’d be rather surprised if somebody with a similar irrational hate for this President hasn’t advanced a written theory that he’s an alien life form bent upon subjugating earthlings to his will.

            I’m surprised that you haven’t run for political office yourself, given your propensity for constantly tweaking your arguments when challenged. The one thing you’ve asserted that doesn’t seem vulnerable to prevarication is that you are 69 years old. Perhaps typing it repeatedly helps you to remember it — age can be unkind that way.

          • ed6305

            Good morning, I have a few last comments and a suggestion. First of all, go onto Amazon and make an investment in a few books that will be very enlightening to you, two of them written by Mr. Barack Obama: “The Audacity of Hope” and “Dreams of my Father”. You will find Mr. Obama does an excellent job of identifying exactly what he stands for and what he sees as wrong in America. Then, I recommend reading “The Communist” by Paul Kengor and “The Amateur” by Edward Klein. After you have had time to digest everything said by and about Mr. Obama, I think you will have a much better idea of why the American economy is in the condition it’s in today. Draw your own conclusions.

            As for social security and medi-care, I still have a few years to decide if I wish to try and recoup some of the money ” I HAVE DEPOSITED” into “MY SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDI-CARE ACCOUNTS”. Yes, according to the two plans, every participant is suppose to contribute. It’s kind of like a 401K account, you and I deposit monies we have earned and expect to receive during retirement. These accounts were never designed to be robbed by the Politician’s to be used for entitlement programs. NEVER! Now, assuming I live to be 72, at that time I can elect to collect some portion of the funds I earned and the government deposited towards my retirement. I’m guessing, you think someone, like me, who has been successful, should be depositing those funds to cover other peoples retirement. Who gets to determine who those individuals might be – YOU or maybe Obama? I guess this is the social-justice plan Obama often speaks about. Kinda like the way he has elected to ignore his own flesh and blood living in a hut in Kenya, right?

            I’m not claiming 47% of Americans do not pay income taxes. The government has reported these as facts. It’s interesting that you get to determine what a ‘disproportional amount of their income” might be compared to others in society. It sounds like you feel anyone inside the 47% should get a free ride and not be motivated to improve their future. At the rate Obama’s economy continues to decline, that 47% will soon be 57%, or 67%. Hey, maybe it should be 99% and let the 1% pay for the 99%. That sounds pretty good too. OF course, even if Obama was able to tax the 1% an amount equal to all their wealth, it would only pay our national debt for about 30 days. At that point, who gets to be taxed?
            Surely, not you. After all, you earned your money! Right?

            Young man, here you are again ranting the race thing again. Tell me, what has Obama’s race got to do with his failed policies and programs. I guess, in your mind, because he happens to be black and voted into office by virtually every member of every race, the race card is used to defend his failed policies and programs. Sorry, it doesn’t work that way in real life. His race has nothing to do with anything, it’s his Marxist ideals that he states clearly in his books and what he was taught by his mentors and family. Wake up and give the race thing a break. If you are disappointed about your identity and wish to blame everyone for your success, I get your anger. But, only you can look inside yourself and recognize ‘anyone’ can be successful with the right efforts, hard work and commitment. You might also read a few of Tony Robbins books while you are at it. You need to cleanse your mind of all this hatred, anger and distorted viewpoints. Obama is what he is and he will never change. Accept it. He states loud and clear his plan is working! Read his books, written in his words and you will better understand the man and his mission in life.

            Yes, I am happy to mention I am 69 and still aging. I am a happy guy with very few regrets. I hope you find yourself and recognize all the great opportunities America and Capitalism has to offer you and everyone who has the vision to recognize. My last suggestion: Quit the race thing and quite trying to defend Obama!

            Good luck. Regards, ED

          • WhutHeSaid

            You really do get more amusing with every post. It’s sort of like Toto pulling back the curtain on the Wizard of Oz while he frantically tries to yank the levers and strike fear into the hearts of his visitors.

            Medicare is most certainly NOT ‘like a 401K’. If it were one could expect to pass on any surplus deposit to his/her heirs, and draw benefits based upon the balance. That’s not the case. Social Security may be closer to a 401K, but there are still vast differences. You aren’t impressing me with your knowledge here. Further, this program was enacted long before Obama ran for any political office, and who ‘gets to say’ where the money goes was codified into law decades ago. Changes can be made by Congress, of course, but that’s how this government thing works here in this country.

            I never said that anyone should ‘get a free ride’ – those are your words. I’m saying that for you to envy the tax rates of people who can barely afford to put food on the table is ludicrous given your lofty achievements in life (again, according to you). This of course directly contradicts your claim that you are ‘proud’ to do your ‘civic duty’ by paying your taxes. Will you be prouder if your rate rises by 5% or falls by 5%?

            Ah yes, you deny having any racial bias toward President Obama. Why didn’t you just say so? Certainly I’ve never heard of a bigot denying that he is a bigot. That leaves you to explain your attempts to deny Obama’s legitimacy by making unfounded accusations of ‘Marxism’ and ‘Communism’. Present your arguments here about why you feel your claims are nothing more than a glorified dog whistle — don’t allude to the books of others.

            You often reference the President’s ‘failed policies’, yet every time you tread on that ice it becomes clear that you are really referring to the results of Bush/Cheney policies. The economy is NOT getting worse under the Obama Presidency, although it was in a free-fall when he first took office. Citing rising unemployment because the official numbers rose from 8.217% to 8.254%, therefore causing a rounding up to 8.3%, is hardly convincing. All of America knows that the economy has improved (albeit slowly) during Obama’s Presidency, so what is your real argument here? Your real argument is an attempt to deny Obama’s legitimacy. You be sure to explain the real reason with some real facts to back up your arguments.

            I’m glad to hear that you are a ‘happy’ 69. Perhaps that number has some special significance for you since you cite it in each and every post. I imagine it must take at least 69 years to build up all of the pompous, overinflated opinions that you continuously express about yourself, as well as your seething jealousy over the tax rates of others. Your claims of stellar success and obvious envy and scorn for the poor are at odds with each other. Perhaps at 69 you begin to lose the ability to notice such things, along with the other inevitable losses of ability.

          • ed6305

            Like I said, read both of Obama’s books. I was under the impression he wrote both books. Are you suggesting he did NOT write the words in these books that state they were written by Obama? If you really believe everything you say, then read his books. Maybe, after hearing what he has to say, you might have a clearer understanding of the man’s ideology.

            As for your continued reference to race. I’m quite certain you are the one with the racial issues and insecurity about issues, or you would not almost label someone a racist for expressing their views about the President or anyone else.

            In my comments, I never tried to compare social security to a 401K, except to point out they are both funded by each individuals contributions. One mandated and the other voluntary. In both cases, each individual at some point can hopefully live long enough to benefit from those contributions. I recognize Congress can make changes, after all, that’s the reason social security will probably go bankrupt by 2022, according to recent reports.

            Look, you can continue living in the past and playing the blame game. Bush is out of office.
            President Obama is the guy who made all the promises of hope and change, to reduce the debt by 50% and create all these jobs. Do you remember those promises? Yes, I know, he underestimated the problems. Well, he’s the President and the guy that is suppose to be a leader with all the solutions. All I have seen since the day he came into office is his constant blaming of the previous administration. Remember he said, if he does not accomplish his promises he would be a one-term President. Guess what, he failed!

            Hey, my age seems to bother you more than it bothers me. I guess I’m trying to use my age to point out I have lived to see and experience many things in my life time. We all have the right to express our opinions openly. I’m not being critical of your opinion, I am simply trying to give you my take on the subjects mentioned in our exchange of ideas.
            I hope one day, you will learn to have an exchange without trying to label the opposing person as a racist or twisting someones words to say they are stating something they are not expressing. I have never questioned Obama’s legitimacy. I have simply stated his policies and programs have failed to reverse the economy and unemployment numbers.
            I get your point of view, he can do no wrong and you will support the guy. Great, that’s your choice. Go for it.

            Again, I wish you only the best. Regards, ED

          • WhutHeSaid

            Let me address that last little nugget first. I don’t care if you’re 199 — you are the one who feels it necessary to repeat your age with each and every post. I heard you the first time. You have no idea how old I am, but that didn’t stop your from assuming that I’m younger than you. I’ve know many fools that are older than you, so don’t expect that your age necessarily conveys wisdom — only your words can confirm or disprove that.

            Next, don’t try to backpedal from your statements about Social Security and Medicare. Here is a direct quote from your previous post:

            “Yes, according to the two plans, every participant is suppose to contribute. It’s kind of like a 401K account, you and I deposit monies we have earned and expect to receive during retirement. ”

            You claim to dislike the ‘blame game’, yet you take it one step further by not only blaming Obama for what was clearly caused by Bush, but also lying about Obama’s progress since taking office. So you are doubly the hypocrite. The economy was headed for uncharted territory when Obama took office, and it’s been improving ever since. You may not like it, but just stop lying about it. I don’t agree with everything Obama does, but I do give him credit where it is due and I respect that he has been democratically elected by the people of this country, with the respect that goes along with that office unless proven otherwise. Even GW deserved that much, and I disliked his policies immensely.

            Finally, let me address your denial of bigotry. Until you can enumerate your reason(s) for calling Obama things like ‘Marxist’ and ‘Communist’ with a straight face, I’ll continue to draw my own conclusions. It wouldn’t be the first time I’ve argued with a bigot who denied being a bigot. It’s actually become quite common since America’s first African American President was elected.

            Methinks thou dost protest too much.

          • ed6305

            WOW! When someone disagrees with Obama, in your mind it will always be because the opposing party is a racist or using you favorite term; a bigot. You are obviously a very shallow person with a strong commitment to a President that has failed to live up to “HIS PROMISES!” You can believe he has done an outstanding job and believe he has turned around the economy and created millions of jobs. And, you can label anyone that disagrees with your assumptions all you desire. I look around and see a totally different picture. If any person is backpedaling, it’s Obama.

            I stand by my comments about Social Security. I believe every participant is suppose to contribute towards social security based on their earnings and the current laws governing the amount to be deducted from every participants paycheck. Are we clear and agreeable?
            The funds deposited into each participants social security account determine the amount of money they will receive every month after the date they are qualified to apply, beginning at 62 years of age. Some participants may elect to wait till they are 66 years of age and others, like myself, can elect to wait till they reach the age 0f 72 years. It’s all about the amount of funds social security has collected from each participant and when they elect to receive their respective benefit. Are we getting closer to what you feel is the correct description of the social security plan?
            As for a 401K, here again I stand by my comments about every one elected to participate in a 401K plan has the right to contribute a percentage of their income, before being taxed. Based on the amount of funds deposited and invested over the period of the plan, a person can elect to make a withdraw and pay income taxes on those funds being distributed. Here again, their are too many 401K plan options to get any more specific. Most people have no idea how to create a 401K and depend on an employers to provide a plan. From my experience, most Americans fail to investigate their options for establishing their own 401K. They want 100% of their paycheck – to spend it, not save it for retirement.

            I am not interested in your defense of Obama or your hatred for Bush. I believe the political system is broken, and all politicians have lost their integrity. I repeat, all politicians have lost their integrity! Get it. That’s bush, that’s Obama and that all the members of the House and Senate. They gave an oath when they took office to be responsible. I see total irresponsible actions by every Republican and every Democrat.

            I will close by recommending you take the time and spend a few dollars on Amazon to buy and read the two books Obama wrote himself and in his own words. If after reading his books you can say with a straight face he is NOT a Marxist, I will be amazed, but not shocked. You really have a blind side when it comes to Obama and will defend him in any way possible, even if you have to call people names because they disagree with you and Obama’s failed policies and programs.

            Let’s call a truce and respect we happen to disagree. Time will expose the truth. History is our greatest teacher.

            Regards, ED

          • WhutHeSaid

            A truce, eh? Let’s address your latest points first.

            How neatly you sidestepped your misstatement about Medicare. Never mind that Social Security is very different from a 401K — Medicare is about as far from it as you can get. Don’t pretend that you meant to discuss pretax 401K contributions.

            I never hated Bush, and I don’t hate him now. In fact, I admire the class that he has shown when declining to attack his successor or become embroiled in the rabid xenophobia that is currently all the rage in the GOP. I disliked most of his policies, and I blame him for blowing the enormous hole in the budget that Republicans now like to blame on Obama. But he has my respect as a democratically elected President and a person with some class.

            There are many people who do not like Obama that I would not classify as racist or bigots. The problem arises when a person cannot rationally explain their over-the-top hatred for him without using wild conspiracy theories and ridiculous labels. You have failed to give a credible reason, in your own words, for your obvious hatred of the man. I’ve called you on it several times, yet all you can say is for me to go read some books. If you know the reason(s) you can state them yourself — it’s a simple as that. If not then I’ll believe….yep, you guessed it.

            Finally, I do agree that your distrust of politicians in general has some merit, and I share your opinion to a lesser degree. That’s about as close as we’re likely to get on agreement, so I’ll leave it at that.


          • ed6305

            I forgot to mention something important. Go to your favorite search engine and run a search on Mr. Buffett’s battles with the I.R.S. – He has one outstanding litigation for over $1 Billion dollars and another more recent for almost $400 Million dollars. Now, this is not my jealousy, this is the I.R.S. who is suing Mr. Buffett for being a deadbeat on the taxes the I.R.S. says he owes. I must admit, it’s difficult to understand why a guy who is worth many, many Billions would not be willing to pay his taxes without any hesitation or reservations. As I said before, paying taxes is the civic duty of every American. Regards, ED

          • WhutHeSaid

            Jealousy? Certainly not you, yes? Why is it that every knucklehead who want to have more tax breaks on the backs of the working class cites Warren Buffett as if that somehow helps their self-serving arguments? It doesn’t. Get off the Buffett kick and come up with real arguments — not irrelevant distractions.

        • ExPAVIC

          Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed

          Why don’t you just fut the shuck up? The more you rant the more you make your American Taliban Republican cohorts look like the anal cavities they really are.

        • Dave_dido

          I repeat my previous comment:The debt can be retired in approximately ten years and we don’t have to do a thing- just let the Bush tax cuts expire. This would mean higher taxes for me personally, but I’m willing to do it to save the country I love. How about you? Is the debt really that important too you? President Bush and V.P. Cheney said deficits don’t matter. Weren’t you alarmed then?

          • ed6305

            A truce it is.

            Honestly, I formed my opinion about Obama after reading his two books. He consistently expresses his strong dislike for America and Capitalism. He openly admits being mentored by some self proclaimed Marxist and communist, like his father and mother, and many others. Look, I’m not into hating him or any other person, but I have very strong feelings about America and the great way of life that Capitalism has brought to most Americans. I cannot defend the actions of politicians, regardless of party, it is what it is. My theory is to only give them one-term, with no exceptions. Power has taken over Washington and they make decisions and deal without concern about the effects it has on all Americans. Somehow, these guys and gals have forgotten about integrity and being accountable for their actions. I’m for stopping the spending immediately and balance the budgets, regardless what gets cut. If you or I were bankrupt, the Judge would go over our debt, item by item, and determine what is necessary and what needs to be eliminated. That’s how I see us coming up with a solution. One term makes them honest and leaves them without power and a lifetime job.
            As to your point on medi care, I’m not sure what exactly your thinking – I said. As I mentioned, I have been paying into medi care for years. Fortunately, I am still employed full time and have great insurance coverage for my wife and I. I will be forced to accept medi care when I turn 72 years of age. I guess at that time, assuming I’m still around, I will have to deal it what ever is left of the program – when these politicians get done moving the funds from one program to another. I believe every American should be able to select an insurance carrier across state lines, much like Auto Insurance. Give people a choice and the rates will get competitive very quickly. Hopefully, I have explained my position on medi care. One thing is for certain, the benefits will be reduced considerably after Obama care takes effect – remember, the Bill requires over $500 Billion to be taken out of medi care and transferred to operate Obama care. At least, that my understanding, after reading the 2,700 pages in the Bill Congress approved. I strongly suggest you take the time to read it too. It will give you thousands of reasons to agree with me on having one-term politicians.
            Have a wonderful evening. ED

          • Dave_dido

            I believe you have me mixed up with someone else, Ed. I didn’t refer at all to your position on Medicare. At least not on this article, unless you are using a different name.
            After working for 33 years as an insurance professional, I can tell you this: 1.) the system needed reform. 2.) Obamacare, and I use the term in a positive way, contains many good and necessary reforms that should have been instituted long ago. 3.)Health insurance and auto insurance are two different animals; each has it’s own unique actuarial and pricing considerations. Regardless of the ability to purchase across state lines, you can be sure that the private insurers will only want to insure the young and healthy.They will want to make huge profits and they will want to pay their executives like sultans. You say you are 69 years old. I’m here to tell you if we were to get a voucher system like Paul Ryan wants, you might as well start giving everything you own to your kids because, without Medicare, you will be at the mercy of the private insurance companies.They will break you if you should get sick.Do you know many octagenarians who haven’t been sick at one time or another? They have managed to double rates every 5 years for the past 20 years. Do you think it will be any different in the future? Do you know why Medicare was started in the first place? I don’t agree with you about one term politicians. It took me ten years or more to become a really good insurance agent. Congressmen need even more time because there are so many different and complex issues. The solution is public financing and campaign time limits. Every politician must use public funds in an amount equal to his opponent. Campaign spending cannot begin until 3 months before the election.
            Finally, I have heard President Obama profess his love for America on many, many occassions.Why is it that no President’s loyalty to our country has ever been questioned, with the possible exception of JFK and that was because of prejudice against Catholics. President Obama is not Catholic. What is he that inspires such prejudice?

          • ed6305

            I’m sorry for the mix up on my part. And, thanks for your comments. They were very informative. Regards, ED

          • ed6305

            If I thought for one second ending the Bush Tax break would retire the debt in ten years, I would be the first in line to support the action. Unfortunately, according to Obama, retiring the Bush Tax for those earning $250,000 and above, it will only generate a net income of $330 Billion annually. If you divide $330 Billion into $16 Trillion, well, you can see you looking at maybe 48 years, assuming you do not have to pay the Chinese any interest on the debt. Of course, you are also assuming these politicians will not come up with any new programs to apply the $330 Billion in savings. After all, it is Washington and the idea of savings versus spending is a little bit out of charter. My friend, I am alarmed every day when I think of the irresponsible actions these politician take with Tax payers money. How can anyone not be alarmed. I think everyone should be willing to pay their taxes. And, if increasing the tax rate will help and all the funding is applied to the debt, I’m all for it. But, we both know this is never going to happen. Be realistic! This is not simply a Bush.Chaney fault. Remember, it’s takes the House and Senate to make a Bill into law. So, let start replacing the irresponsible guys and gals in the House and Senate, then maybe, we can regain some financial responsibility and integrity in our political parties. Have a great evening. Regards, ED

          • Dave_dido

            Ed, I’m not talking about letting the tax cuts expire for only those earning over $250,000- I’m talking about letting the Bush tax cuts expire for everyone. Why is it so unrealistic to go back to a tax structure that worked fine in the 1990’s? Look, I don’t relish the idea of paying more in taxes and, believe me, it will hurt me much more than it will hurt the 1%ers. It won’t change their lifestyle in the least. Mine it will. I’m self-employed and I do struggle to pay my taxes, but I would accept a tax increase for the good of our country.Maybe the people who post comments here on the National Memo can start a movement right now to tell the politicians that, under certain conditions of fiscal responsibility, perhaps a balanced budget that doesn’t harm the poor and needy, we will accept letting the Bush tax cuts expire for everyone. It’s time we all did something rather than to fruitlessly argue back and forth. Talk is cheap. Anybody out there with me on this?

          • ed6305

            I’m in full agreement with having all the Bush Tax expire on jan. 1st, 2013 for everyone. Now, I would agree it’s possible to zero the $16 Trillion debt over maybe 15 years. I still have one fear – the politicians (Democrats and Republicans) finding ways to rob the cookie jar. Until we remove the lifetime membership and replace them with one-term candidates who have integrity, they will return to spending irresponsibly on their pet projects. I would love to see millions of Americans join a movement to force politicians to apply 100% of the Bush tax cuts towards the debt, year after year, until we have zero debt. It can be accomplished. Let continue passing on the message everyday!
            Regards, ED

    • DukeDacat

      Ed, do you really think Ryan has a chance against Joe McBiden???

      • ed6305

        I honestly do not think the debate will be a contest. Joe lives in the past and is so out of touch it amazes me Obama did not drop him from the ticket. Hopefully, you listen to the content of any speech he may give, and in doing so, I rest my argument. Please read the book “The Amateur” by Edward Klein and then read “The Communist” by Paul Kengor. After reading those books, you will see clearly why Obama feels confident “HIS PLAN HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL!” Remember, these are his words. He says his plan has worked successfully and that his changes to America are as he designed them to be. It’s critical you read these books, it will make what Obama and Biden are doing very clear and very scary, assuming you want to live the American dream. ED

        • td386632

          Wow! Ed-this is not the 1950’s! There are not communists everywhere! Perhaps you could learn from the past Ed! Are you part of the 1%? Or do you live in small town USA who listens to idiotic radio announcers like Rush Limbaugh and people of his genre? Do you listen to people who tell you what to think? Who make you afraid and tell you who made you afraid? Or are you like John Boehner? The stonewaller that blocks everything! Ryan and Romney-Best politicians money can buy! Sad! It is sad because people are supposed to be intelligent and be able to choose, It is sad because people like you, do not choose, make intelligent decisions. You do what the 1% tells you to do. Then you feel connected to them.
          Ed, the only way you will be connected to the 1% is by voting for these people. Wake up Ed, get out of that small mind that you do have!

          • ed6305

            Well, my friend, I hope you enjoy living with those that have nothing and who will end up with nothing. Obama loves guys like you. I’m sure you will enjoy the lines to collect your food and get medical attention. Just continue thinking as you do and when you wake up, it will be too late. Everyone has choices in life and it appears you have made yours. That’s great! It’s your future, not mine. I would wish you luck, but it would not do you any good, as you are exactly where you wish to be in life. A what-a-be without any prospects for a future. Have a great evening. ED

          • td386632

            First thing, I am not your friend. Second thing, you know absolutely nothing about me, so your ignorant rant about me having nothing is completely wrong. I too, have worked very hard for what I have. I did not receive charity from anyone.
            And yes Ed, at one time in my life, I had to stand in line for food and shelter. But I climbed out of that misery and made a very nice life for myself. Gee Ed, and I even did it as a liberal. That righteous Republicans wanted to make sure degenerates like me went away.
            Gee Ed, I persevered and thrived.
            My future Ed? It is very bright. However, a righteous Republican like you would take away all of the opportunities that are available.
            So Ed, your value judgement on me is very much like your politics-useless and uninformed
            Gee Ed, Much to your chagrin.
            By the way Ed, if you have any problems with the big words, thank an educator-someone who cares. But I doubt a righteous Republican like you would not know how to use a dictionary, unless there was money in it to show you how to use one. People like you usually just do what they are told-good little tea baggers!
            But I digress ( Big word Ed). A righteous Republican like you probably worked for the government, sits on a nice pension, having lived off the misery of us poor liberal white trash.
            Did you ever hear the terms, “of the people, by the people, and for the people?” No of course not. People like you only read and listen to what they are told. Good little conservatives.
            Yes Ed, I make choices-informed choices. I don’t have people like Rush Limbaugh tell me what to think.
            So, Ed, I have woke up. I look at righteous people like you and I just laugh at you.
            I feel sorry for the way this country is headed. Very sorry. This is not the country of my Dad and Grandfathers. It is a country headed up by big business. It is headed by a special club-guess what Ed, you are not in the club. You are a wannabeeeee! Sad!
            They need people like you, especially at this time-to get them elected-but building up your self-esteem because of pretending to be one of the 1%? Sad Ed, very sad.
            Yes Ed, changes have to be made.I am all for cuts-but not at my expense.
            I am all for shaping up medicare-but not so some fat cat that Ryan and Romney can have their friends make money off of me.
            And just what is wrong with health care for everybody Ed? Go check with Paul Ryan. I am sure that he will give you the answer that you want to hear-for a donation of course! Gotta be a righteous Republican now!
            Are you against Obama because he is Black? Probably. All of you righteous Republicans Tea baggers hate change-at least change that does not benefit you.A black man for president? Horrors-my God, Muffy, next they will have a female in the white house!
            Now, I have wasted too much time on a person like you. So go back to what you were doing Ed. Be a righteous Republican-at least outwardly. Pretend you are part of the club, feel good about yourself and don’t waste my time with your pathetic rhetoric. I have little time for pretenders and wannabees!
            . Don’t worry Ed, us useless liberals will clean up the messes that Paul Ryan,Tommy Thompson, Scott Walker and Mittens Romney will do. It will take generations.
            Last thing, read the following excerpt (big word Ed, dictionary time!). See if any of this will sink in. After all, he’s a black president-probably isn’t real smart! I feel sorry for people like you Ed.
            Please do not respond to this Ed-Your pathetic vitriolic words are amusing, at best.

            WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — Of all the falsehoods told about President Barack Obama, the biggest whopper is the one about his reckless spending spree.
            As would-be president Mitt Romney tells it: “I will lead us out of this debt and spending inferno.”
            Almost everyone believes that Obama has presided over a massive increase in federal spending, an “inferno” of spending that threatens our jobs, our businesses and our children’s future.
            But it didn’t happen. Although there was a big stimulus bill under Obama, federal spending is rising at the slowest pace since Dwight Eisenhower brought the Korean War to an end in the 1950s.
            Even hapless Herbert Hoover managed to increase spending more than Obama has.
            Here are the facts, according to the official government statistics:
            • In the 2009 fiscal year — the last of George W. Bush’s presidency — federal spending rose by 17.9% from $2.98 trillion to $3.52 trillion. Check the official numbers at the Office of Management and Budget.
            • In fiscal 2010 — the first budget under Obama — spending fell 1.8% to $3.46 trillion.
            • In fiscal 2011, spending rose 4.3% to $3.60 trillion.
            • In fiscal 2012, spending is set to rise 0.7% to $3.63 trillion, according to the Congressional Budget Office’s estimate of the budget that was agreed to last August.
            • Finally in fiscal 2013 — the final budget of Obama’s term — spending is scheduled to fall 1.3% to $3.58 trillion. Read the CBO’s latest budget outlook.
            Over Obama’s four budget years, federal spending is on track to rise from $3.52 trillion to $3.58 trillion, an annualized increase of just 0.4%.
            There has been no huge increase in spending under the current president, despite what you hear.
            Why do people think Obama has spent like a drunken sailor? It’s in part because of a fundamental misunderstanding of the federal budget.
            What people forget (or never knew) is that the first year of every presidential term starts with a budget approved by the previous administration and Congress. The president only begins to shape the budget in his second year. It takes time to develop a budget and steer it through Congress — especially in these days of congressional gridlock.
            The 2009 fiscal year, which Republicans count as part of Obama’s legacy, began four months before Obama moved into the White House. The major spending decisions in the 2009 fiscal year were made by George W. Bush and the previous Congress.
            Like a relief pitcher who comes into the game with the bases loaded, Obama came in with a budget in place that called for spending to increase by hundreds of billions of dollars in response to the worst economic and financial calamity in generations.

        • jarheadgene

          You live in the PAST Ed. You have been schooled here by so many and you keep coming back like the punchdrunk boxer who thinks he still has one more title shot left. Get your act together quit listening to R and R. THEY HAVE NEVER EARNED a dime…their success is built on their daddies monies and they want to continue hoarding so they will make up all lies and all scenarios that will convince you to vote for them. Don’t be stupid.

          • ed6305

            WOW! Thanks for the awakening. Here I thought it was August 14th, 2012 and that Romney & Ryan were running in the November 6th, 2012 election.

            I guess, if I’m living in the past, you must be living in the future. Must be wonderful to know everything worked out. The $16 Trillion in debt has been balanced to zero, every American desiring a job has been employed, social security, medi care and Obama care are operating within the budgets and solvent and of course, everyone of the rich cats have been taxed at 100%, and every American receives the same amount in their paycheck. This is truly your and Obama’s dream come true. Fantastic!

            Talk about lies. Who gave you the crystal ball to know who is telling the truth and who is lying? From where I stand, it more than clear, the only stupid Americans are the ones who continue to vote for these politicians that have voted for all these spending bills and entitlement programs. I sense you are a firm believer of the social-justice philosophy and cannot be persuaded to consider being a contributor to society. Unfortunately, we have millions of Americans who want to sit home and collect a check for contributing nothing towards society.

            If you are happy with the way America is declining, great. I’m not. So, if I’m living in the past, fine. I worked hard all my life and I am satisfied with my accomplishments and contributions to society. Hopefully, you will one day look back and feel your vision and achievements make you happy with yourself. Regards, ED

    • Whittier5

      “Ryan may be the first VP with any real understanding of how to balance a budget. ”

      May be, but ISN’T! You haven’t been paying attention. His so-called “Budget” wouldn’t balance the Budget in this decade, and then, only after having wiped out the Middle Class and Working Class, handing the Keys to the Country to the uber-Wealthy and Big Corps.

      His idol Economists are false idols.

      Ed, get you head out of False Noise and open your eyes. This is a big stagecoach robbery R&R are planning.

      • ed6305

        I can only assume you are one of young and foolish Obama’s believers. I sincerely feel for you, because, if your Marxist gets reelected, you will have no American Dream. I am a 69 year who has enjoyed working my whole life. I have 6 children, I’m proud all 6 are college educated, 3 with a Masters and all been successfully employed since graduation. I have always been fiscally responsible and paid 100% of my debts and obligations. Today, the Obama Administration spends all its time creating more and more entitlement programs that is the reason for the declining middle class and working class. Obama has almost 50% of America on one form of entitlement or another, in order to control the lives and destiny of millions. He has more than 50% on Food Stamps. Now, to want to talk about building a bigger, wealthier middle class? It takes jobs with opportunities for growth to reach that goal. Obama has had almost 4-years in office to create jobs and reduce the debt as he promised. Well, my friend, he has spent the majority of his time on his Obama care and passing executive orders for more entitlement programs. Name me one jobs program. Just take a look at GM and Chrysler, he eliminated almost 1,000 dealerships who voted for the GOP, and in the process hundreds at each of these dealerships lost their job for no reason. And, all you hear Obama says is he saved auto workers jobs with the Tax Payers Stimulus monies. Talk about a con job. Look, you may hate those who have been successful in life and who have built this country, and you may believe as Obama does that every successful businessman did NOT build his company – But, I hate to wake you up to reality. Had those successful business men & women not taken a chance with their life savings and worked on-ending hours, a large majority of Americans would not have jobs today. As for the big Corporations – someday, you will realize America is an industrialized global leader because of the big Corporations. If you want to look at how a big Government is run, take a look at the Post Office – they have millions of employees handling mail and lose Billions EVERY year. That’s our Government at it’s best. Then, consider the Power of the White House and Congress, what have they accomplished during Obama’s 4-years? Yep. Nothing, except spending over 5 Trillion dollars with absolutely nothing to show for it: No Jobs, No reductions in debt, No new energy, No solutions to the medi-care and social security coming bankruptcy – Really, what has Obama accomplished? He promised change and hope. Now, tell me you have seen an improvement in something. Consider on thing, he said he had a plan to improve the economy, create jobs and launch new energy programs. He’s done nothing. Our gas prices are growing almost daily with no solutions, just higher prices. Do yourself and “get your head out of Obama’s B.S. and open up your eyes to reality. I’ve made my mark in life. I only hope you and millions of fellow- Americans wake up in time to realize they have no future or American Dream with Obama in a second term. He is not what you believe. It’s your life and your vote, and more importantly, it’s your future. Any body can be a failure and/or a demonstrator, it takes brains, self confidence and a strong commitment to be successful. I hope you recognize your opportunity when it presents itself. You got to have your eyes, ears and mind open to recognize it when it comes knocking on your door. Regards, ED

        • WhutHeSaid

          You’ve obviously been very busy snorting up lines of Medicare Viagra — calm down. Give me back those ‘Marxist’ dollars that you slurp up every day of your pitiful life and stop telling whoppers like an old, bitter crank.

          • ed6305

            Hey, if your happy with your life. Great! I am delighted with my life and my 69 years of a fruitful life. If you are articulate in words like ‘Snorting’ and ‘Viagra’, it would appear you have the dependency and need to seek help. I hope you find it quickly. Now, I better understand why you are so angry and disappointed in your life. Maybe you should call Obama for help. I’m sure his Obama care offers free services that can help your dependency problems. Good luck. ED

          • WhutHeSaid

            I’m sure that you’re just bursting at the seams over yourself — it’s a wonder you can wear buttons. But I see right through your facade, and it makes me very happy that I’m not you.

            So you see, we’re both happy — what’s not to like?

            Gute nacht, Eddie-O.

        • jarheadgene

          Ed you are so misguided, you jump from one subject which you know little or nothing about to another which you know little or nothing about and want to sell it to all here as FACT. I’ll just correct your Post Office part…..The GW Bush administration made the Post Office “SUPER” fund their pension to 70 years advanced funding could your company do that?
          What it looked like is them setting up the next Republican to come in privatize the post office completely… want to send a post card…UPS or FEDEX….then rob the pension plan like a good GORDON GEKKO would ….hmmmmmm do I hear ROMoNEY calling? WOW Ed….the GOP is filled now with racist who have helped install new JIM CROW voting laws.
          You brag about your past and your kids…fine and good…but EVERY AMERICAN should be OUTRAGED at the GOP for robbing people of their easy access to VOTING. YOU SHOULD BE OUTRAGED and the GOP should be ASHAMED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • ed6305

            It appears to me you have an political agenda and it’s anti Republican. Fine! Just do not try to paint me with the same brush. My comments express my views about the lack of fiscal responsibility by all politicians. I’m not happy with the Republicans or the Democrat’s. My recommendation to voters to hold every politician responsible for our declining economy, growing unemployment, growing entitlement programs, inflated energy prices, growing numbers of mortgage foreclosures, etc. etc. This problems date back a very long time and are only getting much bigger with fewer solutions available. As someone who believe in being financially response for myself, I have the nerve to believe the voters should demand that every politician holding office be financially responsible. Simply stated: “They are not permitted to spend more money than the revenue they take into the system. Yes, unfortunately, I’m saying it time to remove each and every politician, even if it takes the next 5 elections to accomplish it.
            Now, as for the Post Office. I think it’s past the time for the Post Office to operate profitably. If that means increasing the cost of postage, so be it. If that requires lay-offs of redundant employees, so be it. If that means adjusting compensation and pensions, so be it. You mentioned Fed Ex and UPS – in both cases, they operate profitable and extremely efficiently. When they promise to deliver a package, you know it’s going to be delivered. With the Post Office, in most cases, it requires a great deal of hope and prayer to be guaranteed a delivery. Of course, it’s a government operation and the employees could care less about customers and providing courtesy and service. I do not know anything about their pension and/or how Mr. Bush handled their funds – But, I do know they Post Office employees are represented by Union leadership who must have negotiated how their pension was handled. At any rate, I go back to my initial comment, the solution is to remove all the politicians, Republicans and Democrat’s. As voters, we need to be more proactive about who we vote into office. That means studying the candidates background and experiences.
            Good grief, how did you tie this exchange into a racial issue and bring in Jim Crow? I happen to travel a great deal, across the US and globally. Regardless where I travel, I am required to present identification before I can gain access onto a plane or visit a foreign country. When you apply for a driver’s license in every state, you are required to present your photo I.D.. When I took my Mother for social security many years ago, she had to present her photo I.D., Birth Certificate with a state seal and she had to present her original social security card. Now, why is so difficult for you and many others to understand everyone casting a vote should be required to prove their identity and that they are who they claim to be. We all know that millions of illegals have acquired false social security cards to gain employment illegially and that in several instances many states have reported voter fraud. You obviously would like like to have someone steal your identity and begin stealing your assets, so why not take actions to protect the integrity of our voting system?
            Now, because I’m am proud of my accomplishments and the fact I have done my parental obligation to provide love, life experiences and the best education possible for my children – Why do you label it bragging? You seem so upset about my point of view and the GOP’s, but willing to give the Democrat’s a free ride because of your party choice. I think you are short changing yourself and your family, not to mention your future. It all boils down to choices in life. You can accept what you currently are experiencing or you can demand changes. I vote for anyone other than what we have in office today. They all are the blame for what is happening to the American Dream and the Future of this country. The $16 Trillion in debt will only continue to grow, unless we elect real Leaders with Integrity.

            You need to open up your mind. I sincerley wish you every success, regardless, how you define success. ED

          • jarheadgene

            Well Ed…I prefer the toned down reply, that speaks of you and not the GOP speaking points or B.S. rhetoric. The post office is profitable but they have been strapped by BUSH to super fund their pension to match 70 years in advance, that has proven to be impossible, but they tried. And yes UPS and FEDEX are profitable fast and efficient but even a letter via them cost $8-$10. As for your mom’s plight re ID, it didn’t sound easy or free. That is why the new laws passed by the GOP lawmakers from state to state are reprehensible. Voting should not be hard or have any expenses. Jus ’cause you have to have id for travel, as I do a passport doesn’t mean everyone else does. Vote out most of the incumbents…McConnell, Boehner, Ryan, even Pelosi and Reid. But don’t start with Obama he is new to the game, and trying to fix it he has been blocked completely the last two years. And I would suspect the JOB has a learning curve. Vote in Romney and we are back in the Cheney greed years.

    • ExPAVIC

      Ed, Ed, Ed, Ed.

      Where do you find all the whack job supposedly factual information you come up with? Has Dr. Joseph Goebbels act-alike Karl “Feed Them Horse Crap” Rove published a book we don’t know about?

      • ed6305

        I watch and read the same media most Americans do everyday, i.e., CNN, NBC, ABC, FOX, MSNBC, Wall Street Journal, USA Today, etc.

        It doesn’t require any specific person to inform you or me that the Debt is growing past $16 Trillion dollars, that Obama Care will cost Americans $2.7 Trillion dollars, that Social Security & Medi-Care is closing in on Bankruptcy by 2022, that mortgage foreclosures are still climbing across the US, and that unemployment is growing.

        My friend, what am I missing? Obama is the President and the guy who made all the promises for hope and change, right? Well, he has not created jobs, he has not reduced the Debt, he has not improved the economy, he has not reduced the cost of energy. What has he accomplished?

        Be honest. Do you honestly believe 4 more years of a failed President will solve the problems across America? Come on, forget the politics and who you supported. This country is in serious trouble and needs someone who can stop the spending, develop programs that will employ millions of Americans and put into effect whatever is necessary to get our economy moving in the right direction.

        Obama may have been a great community organizer, but America is the world’s largest economy that was built by excellent leadership, hard working Americans and ideas. Obama’s only ideas are related to social-justice and taxing the rich. Ask yourself, if Obama took 100% of the wealth of the richest Americans, what would it amount to? maybe pay the interest on our debt to China for what 30 days. These same rich folks are the biggest employers in America. So, Obama collects all their assets, then what? Everyone employed by these rich folks are laid off work. That’s an Obama solution. Pretty stupid!

        So, my friend, try to think outside the box. Forget you are on the Obama bandwagon and think about what has made America the greatest country in the world. Or, maybe, you prefer seeing America continue to decline and end up maybe the second or third greatest country. Sooner or later, you either have to come up with a solution or accept reality.

        regards, ED

        • ExPAVIC


          Like all of your ilk, you fail to mention the source and origin of the debt. For example, 85% of the current debt is directly linked to BUSH tax breaks given to the rich in 2001 and 2003. And, don’t forget a $1 trillion a year war in Iraq (remember nonexistent WMDs). Tax breaks plus war expenses for Bush who couldn’t do the math.

          Talk about promises, Bush promised to protect the U.S. when sworn in as POTUS. So now Osama and his boys nail us and he fails to get him for doing it.

          So who gets Osama, Obama that’s who and throw in Gadhafi (he did have a role or are you whack jobs denying that too), and some 2,400 al Qaeda hiding in Pakistan which was off limits to Bush for some reason.

          • ed6305

            Hey, looks like you are a happy with the Obama economy and all his new policies, i.e., Obama care, higher taxes beginning on January 1, 2013, forecast for higher unemployment in 2013, etc. That great!

            Now, let’s see how you feel when you get your fist pay check in 2013. Then, let’s see how Obama manages Syria and Iran. It will be interesting to see him negotiate with the Muslim Brotherhood. Oh well, maybe he will remind the Brotherhood what he did to Gadhafi and Osama – right? He will simply apply a little fear to keep them in line. Right!

            Do you think Mr. Obama will have jobs for the thousands of troops returning? After all, he claims his new energy programs will provide millions of jobs.

            Well Mr. Liberal, it appears you have everything figured-out and know all the answers, so good luck with your efforts to get Obama reelected. I’m sure you will be able to handle all the challenge his reelection will present you over the next 4 years. Regards, ED

          • ExPAVIC

            WHAT ARE YOU DAFT?

            I give you facts and figures, and you counter with American Taliban Republican BS? Come on Ed we are up to the ATR’s tricks and will respond in kind.

            I am getting the idea that you are a racist phuque and wouldn’t know a fact, or reasonable candidate, if he kicked you in the butt.

            So now RoMoney the Mormon crook (Olympics funds skimmer) and everyone’s whack job Paul “hates the poor and middle classes” Ryan. Even the Florida blue hairs are stepping away.

            Hope the November 6 butt kicking doesn’t ruin your day, too much.

          • ed6305

            It’s really interesting how you respond. When someone disagrees with your opinion, you immediately start labeling people. How do you come up with ‘racist phuque’ from any of my comments? Or, the label you use when mention Mr. Romney – RoMoney the Morman crook? Talk about disrespecting someone. Had he not taken over the Salt Lake Olympics when he was asked, you and millions of other Americans would not have been able to watch a truly successful event. It could have easily ended up like our current Obama economy. As for Mr. Ryan hating the poor and middle class, I think you have him mixed-up with Obama, the guy who left his half-brother and Grandmother living in camp in Kenya. As for the seniors in Florida, let’s see what happens when they see how Obama has reduced their medi-care benefits by over $500 Billion dollars. When their doctors cut their services we will see who they vote for on November 6th. As for the election out-come, I’m not going to be effected one way or another, it people like you who will get screwed out of your future. You will see what I mean when you collect your pay check in January, 2013, assuming you work for a living. Yep, this election is all about you younger folks and your future. The $16 Trillion in debt is yours to pay back, not me or Obama. As for the Taliban and the Muslin Brotherhood, they are gaining momentum, thanks to Obama. So, come November, the ball will be in your end of the court. While you are walking into the voting booth, remember one thing, this is Obama’s economy, his failed policies and his policies that failed to create jobs across America for our young graduating classes this past June. Lastly, remember too, with the current members serving in Congress and in the House, you will not see a single Bill passed that will reverse the current downward trends, so think about every single person you vote for in November. By the way, IT’S YOUR BUTT AND FUTURE THAT’S ON THE LINE! Regards, ED

          • ExPAVIC

            A FOLLOW UP

            After eight years of Bush screwing things up so badly it has taken four years just to find out just how badly.

            Are you going to give me a bunch of crap about Bush not being the worst POTUS in the twentieth century? Now unless you agree to this fact there is no discussion and you have picked the wrong side.

            I will conclude that the American Taliban Republican, plutocratic, obstructionist, old, rich, bigoted white guys have all shot their wads and now no longer run the country as before. Even the Reagan trickle down crap eventually demonstrated that the upper 4% didn’t give a rat’s behind for the other 96% and will now and in the future be out of the picture.

          • ed6305

            My friend, you are really hung-up on Race and Bush. Give it a rest. The President, regardless who gets voted into Office, makes promises to all Americans to improve the economy and the future. We all know Bush failed, and now we know Obama has also failed. The color of their skin has nothing to do with their failures, it’s all about their failed policies. If you take the time to look around the US, you will see exactly what I see and is isn’t very promising. Based on your comments about ‘white guys’. I have to assume you are black. If so, consider the fact Mr. Obama has failed the black community to the tune of 17% unemployment, that’s much worse than any prior President. I’m think you are caught up on the 1%, 4%, 96% and the 99% movement. Well, my friend, those occupies are a bunch of worthless thugs who have no interest in employment. They are looking for entitlement programs and the hard workers in our society to pay for their life style. I’m sure you noticed they had all the newest iPads and iPods, and they all found people willing to pay them to demonstrate and occupy. Did they accomplish anything? No, they wasted their time and proved why none of the companies they may have applied for work would hire them. Its sad for young people to waste their lives thinking they can walk through life without any motivation to succeed and only contempt for those who apply themselves and become successful. I hope you wake up and get this chip off your shoulder about race, politics and the definition of success in life. Good luck. Regards, ED

          • ExPAVIC


            You don’t read or reason that well. Just another person who finally sees how the rich, white 4% has been screwing people and this country for years. Now the fit has hit the shan.

            A republican until stint in Vietnam where it was apparent that the poor guys were dying and the rich guys were back in the states making money off of us and their kids were avoiding the draft. Like your boy RoMoney in Le Havre, France, converting street walkers to Mormonism (and getting laid) while I was getting shot at (fighting for my Country BS). Converted then and there.

            Now after BUSH screw up, not willing to let rich, white guys screw up the place any further with Medicare and Social Security on the line. Not that complex issues and if you make it any more complex you waste time

      • jarheadgene

        Personally I like to refer to Karl Rove as “Piglet in a Suit”. Doesn’t he look like piglet?

  • oh believe me paul ryan and his budget are nationally known and for the most part disliked. that dog don’t hunt in our back yards , Neil Newhouse!

    • Deb

      That dog don’t hunt in Colorado ether.

      • Add PA to “not in our backyard” list

      • Hide your dog, Obama likes to eat them.

        • ChristoD

          Toni, you may have your legitimate positions and beliefs but to denigrate a man who as a child ate food commonly accepted in the country he lived in as a basic staple of their diet as a negative reflects your bigotry, ignorance and arrogance. The American rights’ belief that if it isn’t done the ‘American’ way it is barbaric reflects who they are as a voting block and culture. Pure unadulterated snobbery, ignorance and obnoxiousness. The Tea Party types of our world have a basic problem with reality unless it is the one THEY create and that is a world of lies in place of facts, and delusion in place of reality.

        • Toni, you are an idiot.

    • Whittier5

      As it’s 116 in California, that dog ain’t going out of the shade for Kibbles.

    • Sweetie, Ryan’s debt, entitlement solutions will reform and save our economy and entitlements. Ryan doesn’t want to get rid of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, he wants to find solutions to saving the programs and reducing the nearly 16 Trillion dollar debt. Obama and his fellow Progressives wish to continue to foolishly spend money we do not have and must borrow from China. And fool the electorate by kicking the entitlement discussion further down the road until after the election. When if reelected Obama will face the music, take his own bi-partisan counsel’s advise and restructure all entitlements, raise taxes greatly to accomodate Obama Care, and continue to spending wildly. It is in Progressive Liberals DNA, they cannot help themselves.
      Do yourself and neighbor a favor, say no to Obama this November. He is not the solution, he’s the problem!

      • jarheadgene

        NO RYAN is more VOODOO economics…..get with it.

      • Dave_dido

        We can retire the debt in ten years and we don’t have to do a thing- just let the Bush tax cuts expire. Will it cause my taxes to go up? Yes. Am I a 1%er? No, but I’m willing to make the sacrifice. How about you?

    • Keep your dog away from Obama he might be on the menu!

  • rideonWI

    I could agree more with ED and Todd. Right On

  • reinaldok

    I believe that the republicans are looking for a Corn Flakes – Coca Cola candidate. They know perfectly that they have lost the women’s vote. Their only hope would be to run a Clark Gable, Jimmy Stewart looker. So many voters have no idea about the guy’s politics,
    but he is a young and seems so nice. He even looks “presidential”. The Koch’s and the Adelsons will throw millions on ads for this nothing candidate.

    • TheSkalawag929

      You’re right. But don’t under estimate the republicans. They somehow find a way to steal elections.
      We have to work all the way to the end. Take nothing for granted.

  • j

    They lost the women’s vote??? Wow you speak for all women….didnt lose this vote!

    • We’re all aware that there are still women in the society who are conditioned to vote against the interests of their gender, just as there are Republican men who vote against their own interests and those of the society.

    • jarheadgene

      So I guess you want your Vagina probed by law….Ryan’s law? I know some guys if that’s what you want.

  • policardco

    These numbers mean nothing. Look at the demographics. “Romney/Ryan” is asked of “adults.” the others of registered voters. In any case, we all found out what an “excellent” guy John Edwards is.

  • MJRinPA

    “In defense of these numbers, Romney campaign pollster Neil Newhouse blamed the low marks on Ryan not being a nationwide household name.”
    He is enough of a household name for us to hate his budget proposal!

  • OMG! Will Ryan become the next Joe Biden? I guess if he gets a lobotomy he just might.

    Lets face it – Barry’s our boy. Don’t get in the way of all of his progress. There’s got to be more Solyndra’s up his sleeve.

  • Any argument Ryan presents has nothing to do with solving the problems of anyone outside the 1%.

  • Edsanjuan

    Lynn Zhong: After reading this piece of s…, er, news, I realize that all of you Lefties are scared out of your wits with the writing on the wall.
    Of course, if Romney had picked Mother Theresa to be his running mate, you would have found all kinds of faults with her, too (but, of course !)
    Romney-Ryan in 2012 !!

    • metrognome3830

      I hate to tell you this Edsanjuan, but Mother Theresa passed away several years ago. Of course, I believe a dead guy once got elected to the vice presidency. It all goes to show you the great esteem we hold for the office. Romney picked Ryan to pick up the right wing vote. That is the main reason presidential candidates pick vice presidential candidates. Do you think Reagan picked Bush because he so admired his politics? He picked him to deliver the votes he needed. Or at least thought he needed. If Ryan follows the usual role of vice president, he will nearly disappear after the election. If, indeed Romney/Ryan prevail.

      • Yes, metrognome: I know Mother Theresa died several years ago. I was just trying to make the point that there is NOBODY Romney could have selected that would not get criticized. But that is politics and I understand.
        Thank you anyway.

        • metrognome3830

          I was pretty sure you were aware of that. I am just an incurable smart-ass. You are right, there is nobody Romney could have selected sans criticism. Actually, unless there is a change in attitude regarding vice presidents – of either party, he could just as well have selected Mother Theresa and large numbers of people would never know the difference.



    So where are the smart-mouthed American Taliban Republican spokespeople that like to post here? Probably still puking in their toilets.

    • jarheadgene

      I like lots of your posts, very intuitive, sometimes disrespectful, but the GOP people, that like to wander on here, get what they give. I too was a GOP for 30 years….CHENEY finally did it for me. Robbing every tax payer for a war [IRAQ] we didn’t belong in. And all the while he is an Old Draft Dodger from the NIXON and FORD admins. I DESPISE Chicken Hawks. Romney and Ryan are also Chicken Hawks….announcing his candidacy on an American Warship ….of all the F****G Nerve!

  • Has anyone ever suspected that DAN QUAYLE underwent an extensive cosmetic surgical makeover and emerged as GEORGE W. BUSH ?

  • montels2

    Unknown?? I have known his name to long! It needs to be unknown as in out of all public office totally!

  • Michael Mahan

    The lunatics will give Palin or Ryan some % points but the sane people will give them 0%. Ergo Palin and Ryan are equally unlikable.

  • TB2871

    Have you heard Paul Ryan say he will give up his Cadilac Heath care Family Plan that he gets from the Goverment, yet he wants to do away with the Health Care reform Act that will help millions of people buy health care. Not one congressman has offered to save money by giving up their Government health care plans,that they will have for life and buy their own Insurance health care plans and pay for it out of their own pockets? Paul Ryan wants to do away with Student Loans and Pell grants. He wants to change Medicare for Future generations that will affect our children and grandchildren, But he didn’t say he would give up his.

    These rich Republicans care little for the working class especially the middle class.
    Down with thr Romney/Ryan team!!!

  • Whittier5

    “In fairness … Ryan is virtually unknown in the critical swing state of Florida.” ???

    What, Lynn Zhong??? Every Senior in Florida and most everybody else knows who Paul Ryan of the “Ryan ‘Budget'” is!!

    As a Commenter in this forum stated Satuday AM, “that resounding noise you heard was Florida switching from hesistant Yellow to solid Bright Blue!”

  • hellowoman

    Sorry, but there is no comparison of what your saying to Mother Theresa. In fact, many Bishops and Nuns are against the Ryan budget. Mitt has supported and said he would sign it into law.

  • It looks like Romney picked the nail for his political coffin.

  • It looks like Romney picked the nail for his political coffin. Ryan is about as right-wing as anyone can get… he even turns off the Republicans.

  • Romney did what the right asked him to do and he greatest mistake was to pick Ryan as his vice. There are good Republicans out there but the situation is that Romney is scared of the Tea Party crowd and the billionards that are funding him. I have the feeling Romney commited a political suicide a man that want to eliminate Medicare and Social Security that will send thousand and thousand of elder to live on the streets. Seniors that fought in the war, people that worked hard all their life and let them fend by themselves it is sad and hopefully most voters are goind to decide which one is best choice for them.

    • td386632

      Well said!

  • oldtack

    The difference between Pa;in and Ryan:
    Palin was dumb as a ton of frozen tundra. She was inarticulate and could not engage in any type of serious discourse.

    Ryan is far from dumb. Devious no doubt but not dumb. He will be a strong asset to the GOP cause because Romney has no earthly clue about anything. His only forte has been to attack Obama without ever disclosing what plan he may have to right this shipwreck left behind by Bush and Cheney. His is 100% discredit and attack and 0 % solutions.

    For the Democrats to be successful they have to go on full attack of Ryan’s entire career. They have to discredit him to the point that it will sway the undecided voters into the Democrat camp.
    It can be accomplished by diligence.

    If this fails? Like January 2001 – the Dumbo will be sworn in as the 45th President of the United States and the Second -in -Command will take the reins and run the Country. Like Dumbo 1 the new Dumbo 2 will live in a fantasy world where he actually believes he is the Leader.

    So goes Politics in the 21st century.

    • jarheadgene

      Sounds like BUSH….” I gave Dick the task of picking the best VP candidate for me and he came back with himself as the recommendation.” What a DUPE.

  • TheOldNorthChurch

    This pick is the worst possible scenario that the Obama Campaign was expecting. It brings the Economy and the Future of Government programs to the forefront of the debate.

    The Medicare Trustee report in April, shows funding running short in just twelve years. The Wyden-Ryan plan addresses this problem and begins the national discussion. Or should we just keep putting our heads in the sand?

    • metrognome3830

      So why did Wyden rescind his support for the plan? Just asking . . .

      • TheOldNorthChurch

        Metro – I read where he just did this. It should be no surprise as he supported the plan before Ryan was tapped as VP. I can imagine that he was told to fix it or there would be no money for his re-election. Screw what is good for the American People and what is needed.

        Wyden – just another member of the Political Class.

        • metrognome3830

          I don’t know this for sure, and you correct me if I am wrong, but I think Wyden withdrew his support of Ryan’s plan some time before he was picked for VP candidate.

          Wyden is just another member of the Political Class. Aren’t most of them? I think Class is the wrong term for many of our elected representatives.

  • That dog needs to be neutered!

  • TheSkalawag929

    I was just on one of the conservative sites and you would think that Romney’s pick of Ryan as his running mate was the Second Coming.

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  • I don’t know but someone has to have the courage to stand up and take notice. Obama got us into this mess and cannot get his head out of his ass long enough to smell the roses! Yes, Paul Ryan will forever change Medicare and he should after all it is going bankrupt!!!! To be a true Progressive one must first be an atheist – how many atheist leave comments here?

    • td386632

      Obama got us into Iraq and Afghanistan? Obama gave tax breaks to the rich?

  • Dan Betlej

    Mr. Ryan is well known for trying to get the public to HATE Policeman and teachers???? This is all being done while drawing attention from our REAL PROBLEM… POLITICIANS.

  • Add California!

  • Have read where Ryan is an Ayn Rand ideologist. In addition to being a purist when it came to capitalism, she was also an atheist. How does that square with the anti-planned parenthood, anti-women Catholic from Wisconsin? Hmmm? Cherry picking ideologies? By the way, anyone know about the Knights Templar Illuminati resurgence and Mormonism?

  • Excuse me? At YOUR expense? Who in the Sam hell are you anyway? Obviously no millionaire otherwise you wouldn’t be spending your time here logging in asinine remarks like you are now! Grow up!

  • You are the one who is out of touch with reality.

  • Learn this: the more words you use to defend your position and the more you resort to denigrating others, the weaker your position becomes. In other words, YOU TALK TOO MUCH!

  • Mitt Romney was desperate and shows his lack of leadership. The Kochs probably pushed him into this and this ideology or cut off his donations – even though he has plenty of money himself. What would Romney do as president if he couldn’t make up his mind and stand on his own two feet? Go hiding behind Paul Ryan???????????

  • You said you are 69ish and somewhere about Biden’s age I presume. What gives you the right to call him senile? I could care less about your friggin life story and that of your family. Truth is, your diatribe reflects a line of hawkish garbage that caters to the wealthy and ignors the other 90+ percent. Go live in your big bubble, Ed. You must have served in Vietnam given your age, or did you not? If not, why not? If so, how can you be so blind to what is happening?????????????????

  • A skunk at a wedding would be more welcomed

  • Anyone who can with a straight face vote for Obama is a flake. He is the Coca snorting President. George Soros and his minions willcontinue to throw millions on ads for Obama. Media Matter, Priorty USA PAC, etc… The Left won’t go easy into the night. Their objective is to achieve the decline of America as the greatest super power in the world.
    To these evil men and their puppet Obama, the rich should pay more taxes, but not just the rich Americans, All Americans. To these idealogues America is the 1% and must be down-sized to become part of the global 99%. Obama is the instrument to plunder America not restore her.

  • I believe the numbers are fairly low because “informed” people do “know who he is.” And if you’re a senior, almost-senior, middle-class American this guy is “danger personified.”

  • td386632


    [photo: courtesy US government via WikiMedia Commons]
    by Paul Craig Roberts
    © Copyright 2011 Paul Craig Roberts – All Rights Reserved [reprinted with permission]
    March 10, 2011 (5:41 PST) – The American Empire is failing. A number of its puppet rulers are being overthrown by popular protests, and the almighty dollar will not even buy one Swiss franc, one Canadian dollar, or one Australian dollar. Despite the sovereign debt problem that threatens EU members Greece, Ireland, Spain, and Portugal, it requires $1.38 dollars to buy one euro, a new currency that was issued at parity with the US dollar.
    The US dollar’s value is likely to fall further in terms of other currencies, because nothing is being done about the US budget and trade deficits. Obama’s budget, if passed, doesn’t reduce the deficit over the next ten years by enough to cover the projected deficit in the FY 2012 budget.
    Indeed, the deficits are likely to be substantially larger than forecast. The military/security complex, about which President Eisenhower warned Americans a half century ago, is more powerful than ever and shows no inclination to halt the wars for US hegemony.
    The cost of these wars is enormous. The US media, being good servants for the government, only reports the out-of-pocket or current cost of the wars, which is only about one-third of the real cost. The current cost leaves out the cost of life-long care for the wounded and maimed, the cost of life-long military pensions of those who fought in the wars, the replacement costs of the destroyed equipment, the opportunity cost of the resources wasted in war, and other costs. The true cost of America’s illegal Iraq invasion, which was based entirely on lies, fabrications and deceptions, is at least $3,000 billion according to economist Joseph Stiglitz and budget expert Linda Bilmes.
    The same for the Afghan war, which is ongoing. If the Afghan war lasts as long as the Pentagon says it needs to, the cost will be a multiple of the cost of the Iraq war.
    There is not enough non-military discretionary spending in the budget to cover the cost of the wars even if every dollar is cut. As long as the $1,200 billion ($1.2 trillion) annual budget for the military/security complex is off limits, nothing can be done about the U.S. budget deficit except to renege on obligations to the elderly, confiscate private assets, or print enough money to inflate away all debts.
    The other great contribution to the US deficit is the offshoring of production for US markets. This practice has enriched corporate management, large shareholders, and Wall Street, but it has eroded the tax base, and thereby tax collections, of local, state, and federal government, halted the growth of real income for everyone but the rich, and disrupted the lives of those Americans whose jobs were sent abroad. When short-term and long-term discouraged workers are added to the U.3 measure of unemployment, the U.S. has an unemployment rate of 22%. A country with more than one-fourth of its work force unemployed has a shrunken tax base and feeble consumer purchasing power.
    To put it bluntly, the $3 trillion cost of the Iraq war, as computed by Joseph Stiglitz and Linda Bilmes, is 20% of the size of the U.S. economy in 2010. In other words, the Iraq war alone cost Americans one-fifth of the year’s gross domestic product. Instead of investing the resources, which would have produced income and jobs growth and solvency for state and local governments, the US government wasted the equivalent of 20% of the production of the economy in 2010 in blowing up infrastructure and people in foreign lands. The US government spent a huge sum of money committing war crimes, while millions of Americans were thrown out of their jobs and foreclosed out of their homes.
    The bought-and-paid-for Congress had no qualms about unlimited funding for war, but used the resulting “debt crisis” to refuse help to American citizens who were out of work and out of their homes.
    The obvious conclusion is that “our” government does not represent us.
    The US government remains a champion of offshoring, which it calls “globalism.” According to the US government and its shills among “free market” economists, destroying American manufacturing and the tax bases of cities, states, and the federal government by moving US jobs and GDP offshore is “good for the economy.” It is “free trade.” It is the same sort of “good” that the US government brings to Iraq and Afghanistan by invading those countries and destroying lives, homes and infrastructures. Destruction is good. That’s the way our government and its shills see things. In America destruction is done with jobs offshoring, financial deregulation, and fraudulent financial instruments. In Iraq and Afghanistan (and now Pakistan) is it done with bombs and drones.
    Where is all this leading?
    It is leading to the destruction of Social Security and Medicare. Republicans have convinced a large percentage of voters that America is in trouble, not because it wastes 20% of the annual budget on wars of aggression and Homeland Security porn-scanners, but because of the poor and retirees.
    Pundits scapegoat the middle class and blame the struggling middle along with the poor and retirees. Fareed Zakaria, for example, sees no extravagance in a trillion dollar military budget. The real money, he says, is in programs for the middle class, and the middle class “will immediately punish any [politician] who proposes spending cuts in any middle class program.” [CNN Transcript] What does Zakaria think the military/security complex will do to any politician who cuts the military budget? As a well-paid shill he had rather not say.
    Andrew Sullivan also has no concept of reductions in military/security subsidies: “they’re big babies. I mean, people keep saying they don’t want any tax increases, but they don’t want to have their Medicare cut, they don’t want to have their Medicaid [cut] or they don’t want to have their Social Security touched one inch. Well, it’s about time someone tells them, you can’t have it, baby.”
    Niall Ferguson thinks that Americans are so addicted to wars that the U.S. government will default on Social Security and Medicare. Republicans tell us that our grandchildren are being saddled with impossible debt burdens because of handouts to retirees and the poor. $3 trillion wars are necessary and have nothing to do with the growth of the public debt. The public debt is due to unnecessary “welfare” that workers paid for with a 15% payroll tax. When you hear a Republican sneer “entitlement,” he or she is referring to Social Security and Medicare, for which people have paid 15% of their wages for their working lifetime. But when a Republican sneers, he or she is saying “welfare.” To the distorted mind of a Republican, Social Security and Medicare are undeserved welfare payments to people who over-consumed for a lifetime and did not save for their old age needs. America can be strong again once we get rid of these welfare leeches. Once we are rid of these leeches, we can really fight wars. And show people who is boss.
    Republicans regard Social Security as an “unfunded liability,” that is, a giveaway that is interfering with our war-making ability. Alas, Social Security is an unfunded liability, because all the money working people put into it was stolen by Republicans and Democrats in order to pay for wars and bailouts for mega-rich bankers like Goldman Sachs.
    What I am about to tell you might come as a shock, but it is the absolute truth, which you can verify for yourself by going online to the government’s annual OASDI and HI reports. According to the official 2010 Social Security reports, between 1984 and 2009 the American people contributed $2 trillion, that is $2,000 billion, more to Social Security and Medicare in payroll taxes than was paid out in benefits.
    What happened to the surplus $2,000 billion, or $2,000,000,000,000? The government spent it. Over the past quarter century, $2 trillion in Social Security and Medicare revenues have been used to finance wars and pork-barrel projects of the US government.
    Depending on assumptions about population growth, income growth and other factors, Social Security continues to be in the black until after 2025 or 2035 under the “high cost” and “intermediate” assumptions and the current payroll tax rate of 15.3% based on the revenues paid in and the interest on those surplus revenues. Under the low cost scenario, Social Security (OASDI) will have produced surplus revenues of $31.6 trillion by 2085.
    When I was Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury, Deputy Assistant Secretary Steve Entin worked out a way to put Social Security on a sound basis with the current rate of payroll tax without requiring one cent of general revenues. You can read about it in chapter 9 of my book, The Supply-Side Revolution, which Harvard University Press has kept in print for more than a quarter century. Entin’s solution, or a variation of it, would still work, so Social Security can easily be saved within the current payroll tax rate. Instead of acknowledging this incontrovertible fact, the right-wing wants to terminate the program. Treasury was blocked from putting Entin’s plan into effect by the fact that other parts of the government and the Greenspan Social Security Commission had agendas different from ensuring a sound Social Security system.
    Wall Street insisted that the Reagan tax rate reductions would explode consumer spending, cause inflation and destroy the values of stock and bond portfolios. When inflation collapsed instead of exploding, Wall Street said that the deficits, which resulted from inflation’s collapse, would cause inflation and destroy the values of stock and bond portfolios. This didn’t happen either.
    Nevertheless, the Greenspan commission played to these mistaken fears. The “Reagan deficits” could not cause inflation, because they were the result of the unanticipated collapse of inflation (anticipated only by supply-side economists). As I demonstrated in a paper published in the 1980s in the US, UK, Japan, Germany, Italy, and other countries, tax revenues were below the forecast amounts because inflation, and thus nominal GNP, were below forecast. The collapse of inflation also made real government spending higher than intended as the spending figures in the five-year budget were based on higher inflation than was realized.
    The subsidy to the US government from the payroll tax is larger than the $2 trillion in excess revenue collections over payouts. The subsidy of the Social Security payroll tax to the government also includes the fact that $2.8 trillion of US government debt obligations are not in the market. If the national debt held by the public were $2.8 trillion larger, so would be the debt service costs and most likely also the interest rate. The money left over for war would be even smaller. More would have to be borrowed or printed.
    The difference between the $2 trillion in excess Social Security revenues and the $2.8 trillion figure is the $0.8 trillion that is the accumulated interest over the years on the mounting $2 trillion in debt, if the Treasury had had to issue bonds, instead of non-marketable IOUs, to the Social Security Trust Fund. When the budget is in deficit, the Treasury pays interest by issuing new bonds in the amount of the interest due. In other words, the interest on the debt adds to the debt outstanding.
    The robbed Social Security Trust Fund can only be made good by the US Treasury issuing another $2.8 trillion in US government debt to pay off its IOUs to the fund. When a government is faced with a $14 trillion public debt growing by trillion dollar deficits as far as the eye can see, how does it add another $2.8 trillion to the mix? Only with great difficulty.
    Therefore, to avoid repaying the $2.8 trillion that the government has stolen for its wars and bailouts for mega-rich bankers, the right-wing has selected entitlements as the sacrificial lamb.
    A government that runs a deficit too large to finance by borrowing will print money as long as it can. When the printing press begins to push up inflation and push down the exchange value of the dollar, the government will be tempted to reduce its debt by reneging on entitlements or by confiscating private assets such as pension funds. When it has confiscated private assets and reneged on public obligations, nothing is left but the printing press.
    We owe the end-time situation that we face to open-ended wars and to an unregulated financial system concentrated in a few hands that produces financial crises by leveraging debt to irresponsible levels.
    The government of the United States does not represent the American people. It represents the oligarchs. The way campaign finance and elections are structured, the American people cannot take back their government by voting. A once proud and free people have been reduced to serfdom.

    Thank you Tea Baggers!

  • we sure dont need ryan or romney as leaders of our country . we have too many thieving politicians in congres know. what the hell has ryan done for wis. if both elected say good bye to medicare

  • ridemybroom

    anyone ever see how Mitt looks at Paul with those dreamy eyes of his…when i see that going on i think…hmmmm did they get into one another’s pants…im just saying…

  • ridemybroom

    @Toni……are you really that dumb or what ?

  • Being so far below Palin shows just how far the GOP has to come to begin to be accepted by the voters. Being below Palin should scare the hell out of team Romney. They had hoped for a real game changer and a bump. Where’s the bump? Picking Ryan did not pick up any demographic for the campaign. Ryan gives them the same votes they already had. Those who hate Obama and will vote for Joe The Plumber if they had too to defeat Obama. Of course Mitt had little choice since there was nobody else who had any chops, or who could bring along swing voters. Christy is just an angry fool from Jersey, Ribio is just a kid in over his head and the rest are just tired and boring. This is going to be a very interesting couple of months.

  • Goytholy

    The polls only reflect what the American people think of the Republican /Tea Party and the chosen candidates of said party.Mitt Romney & Paul Ryan are wrong for America Wrong for the world at large. Wrong for Women,Wrong for Latinos,Wrong for African-Americans,Wrong for Workers,Wrong for the Sick, Wrong for the Poor. You would be crazy to vote for them. 4 more years for President Obama.

  • rideonWI

    td386632 – with respect to Janesville – if the previous administrations had done their jobs, Chrysler would not have shut down and all the other companies that relied on Chrysler. If you take your blinders off you’d see that this situation was inherited by Walker, not created by Walker. Oh by the way, Janesville is not dead.

    With respect to the Kock Brothers, they represented less than 5% of Walkers campaign – so what. ABC Corp out of Beloit was higher than that.

    It’s interesting how you folks don’t see how Gov. Walker with Rep Ryan as the architect, erased a $3.7 billion deficit in the state, brought in 150,000 new jobs to the state, created tax incentive to bring manufacturing back to the state and my taxes went down this year for the first time since moving to Wisconsin 17 years ago. Oh, did I mention Walker is also the first governor to be recalled and won by a much larger margin than when he was originally elected.

    • Big deal. We don’t see what they did anymore than you guys can’t give Pres. Obama any credit for anything, unless it’s bad. Besides, this has nothing to do with Romney/Ryan. I predict a big loss for the GOP in November. I don’t think Americans are going to vote for right-wing social engineering, which is what Ryan brings to the table. God help us if they win.

    • Dave_dido

      It’s no secret how these governors and the governor of my state, Ohio, balanced their state budgets. Just ask local school districts and municipalities how their finances are.They will tell you that they are in serious trouble- not enough money coming from the state capitol. Some school districts are dropping their sports programs. So, congratulations on having your state taxes lowered, but I’d rather pay a little and not have my state look like a third world country. It’s like the father of a family bragging about his wealth while his children run around with no shoes.

  • Pray for tea party extinction.

  • Tea party are we talking white supremest group? With their automatic weapons? or do they just have pistols on their hips?

  • The GOP is their own worst enemy. They are running the best campaign for Dems and the American people. Thank you R & R, keep up the good work!

  • LadyDeb

    One reason I know Ryan, is because I kept taps on Scott Walker. I would not want Ryan for president, if something happened to Rommey. Hell I don’t want Rommey for president. Rommey is such a flip flopper, I think Ryan would be calling the shots at the white house.

  • rideonWI

    If the public school system would evaluate and address their fiscal problems head on, they would be forced to come back to the very reason they were established – to teach our children how to succeed in today environment.

    I don’t know about anyone else but I pay upwards of about $1,000 a month for health insurance and sure as hell don’t like or need to pay 80% of someone else’s health insurance who works in the public sector. When those public employees begin to pay their share of benefit cost just like the private sector, there could be more funds for extracurricular sports programs.

  • Neil Newhouse doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Paul Ryan was in fact nationally known, a Republican Bush Hog for the Bush.Cheney administration for many years, and a feared and disliked member of the House because of his mean, man-eating style of politics the thinks intimidation is influence. Picking Ryan only revealed Romney’s, the Republican, and Tea Party intent that was shown to them by the Bush/Cheney administratration: how to bankrupt a nation. Bush/Cheney had an eight year run on bankrupting America by taking advantage of the patriotism of the American people during 9-11 and the charity of Americans during hurricane Katrina by using Haliburton and Blackwater to profiteer off of war and disaster. Man, what a haul! Obama/Biden brought that haul to an end by finding and killing Osama bin-Laden and bringing the war to an end. Romney/Ryan will enter into a war with Iran under the guise of supporting Israel, asndf long drawn-out war will start in the Middle East, and the Republicans, the super PACs, and CEOs will profiteer from that war, just like ol’ Bush/Cheney. America will not be able to sustain a hit like that again, and her ecnomy will collapse. Stay tuned.

  • Why can I not have dinner without a contribution I do not have. Now job creation for teen parents is going to be a piece of cake at YapvilleINK inc non profit boarding home and OJT in business


  • If you’re not scared out of your wits by Romney and his vp pick, you’re not paying attention. These jerks will take away every advance this country has made while they continue to line their pockets with YOUR money. Romney is the most arrogant disgusting man ever to try to win the president. You DO KNOW don’t you – and if not, why not, that when he was gov. of Mass. the job growth there was #47 out of 50 states. He gives jobs away, not create them. Ryan will take away every support system we have. If you listen to Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews, Louis O’Donnell you’ll learn the facts. GET OFF FOX “ness” because they are owned by the corporate big wigs and cater to them 24/7. If these idiots win there goes rights for women, rights for seniors, you name it. It’s sick. Sick, sick. This country is FINALLY trying to catch up with CIVILIZED countries and make health care available to ALL our citizens, not just your patsies rich. It’s important you NEVER call yourselves a Christian when you hate the rest of us ordinary people so much.

    • DG

      “There you go again.” [Reagan debate response in 1980 to Carters fear-mongering. It helped Reagan win the debate and the election.]

  • ignore the facts is spot on with facts

  • You are insane. Paul Ryan is kicking butt as the VEEP candidate.

  • DG

    Paul Ryan seems to be bringing Wisconsin to Romney. This alone is a very big plus for Romney. Maybe some neighboring states also will feel the pull. What matters here is not how many voters like Ryan, but where those voters live.