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Thursday, October 27, 2016

Poll Says 70 Percent Of Georgia Republicans Believe In Creationism

Poll Says 70 Percent Of Georgia Republicans Believe In Creationism
  • RobertCHastings

    That is pretty hard to believe, since Georgia is one of the few states that is actually using lottery funds to put their students through college. And, as statistics demonstrate, the higher the level of education, the less likely it is that people will adhere to ideas such as “creationism”.
    Of course, the lottery thing does not necessarily mean that most Georgians are educated or intelligent. Contrary to what the Wizard said in “The Wizard of Oz”, a simple sheet of paper does not confer intelligence. And, while the opportunity is available to them, not necessarily all HS students in Georgia qualify for the lottery funds.

    • MasterWes

      And those that do aren’t Republicans!!!

    • HahaOhWow

      What do you think the 30% is? Not everyone is in school!

  • JohnRNC

    My experience living in both rural and urban TN & NC is that the density of christian fundamentalists increases with distance from major cities. Based on the recent constitutional amendment outlawing gay marriage in NC and the ultra-conservative composition of the state legislature, I would expect a very similar result in NC.

    And let’s not forget The State of Tennessee v. John Thomas Scopes (“the Scopes Monkey Trial”). In 1925 a high school teacher, John Scopes, was accused of violating Tennessee’s Butler Act, which made it unlawful to teach human evolution in any state-funded school (might this be a religious freedom issue??)

    Scopes was found guilty and fined $100, but the verdict was overturned on a
    technicality. The trial drew intense national attention due to the big-name
    lawyers involved: William Jennings Bryan, three-time democratic presidential candidate, argued for the prosecution. Clarence Darrow, a famous defense attorney, represented Scopes. The trial publicized the Fundamentalist–Modernist Controversy which set modernists (read “liberals”), who said evolution was consistent with religion, against fundamentalists (“conservatives”) who said the word of God as revealed in the Bible took priority over all human knowledge. The case was thus seen as both a theological contest and a trial on whether modern science regarding the creation-evolution controversy should be taught in schools.

    We’ve been here before, 88 years ago. Why haven’t we got it right yet? Creationism is a belief system, it belongs in Church. Science belongs in the public school classroom. OR we can opt to follow the example of the Islamic Madrasas and teach ONLY the Bible in public schools.

    Yeah, that’ll do….

    • Jim Hudspeth

      Thanks for an insightful post.

      I grew up in NC in the 40s & 50s; left in 1959 to join the Air Force. As I recall, there was considerable separation between church and state in NC at that time.

      I’ve lived most of my life in the “left coast” state of Washington. While our percentage of creationist are no doubt considerably less than Georgia, Tennessee or North Carolina, they do exist, and exist in considerable numbers.

      As to teaching “Bible only”, I do not see that happening any time soon, even in NC.

  • Vernon Sukumu

    Why is religion not taught as an (optional) stand alone subject? The school districts having the option to tech it or not, with parent and students having the same option. They could began with the dessert religions, Judaism, Christianity, Islam, if there is time or desire there are the older religion Hindu and Buddhism and many more. Why would anyone want to explain in a science class how someone walked on water?

    • RobertCHastings

      Many systems around the country do offer the optional curriculum item of comparative religions. However, these must be taught from a purely academic perspective, with no theology or doctrine. Most children, by the time they are old enough to make curriculum decisions, have already been indoctrinated by their parents or associates into one religion or another, and will have already established their own belief system, and a general survey course is an excellent idea to give them some understanding of religions other than the one they may choose. Even in religion, the more one knows, the better decisions one can make.

      • Vernon Sukumu

        Thank you, however the point I was trying to make, why try to teach religion as science, just teach religion.

        • Justin Napolitano

          Religion is based on faith which, by definition, requires belief without proof. How do you teach someone to believe something without any proof. It is like convincing folks that they can fly by flapping their arms and then suggest they test it out by jumping off a cliff. You would think that since the person died doing that it would convince everyone watching that faith alone does not permit someone to fly. Science is based on empirical evidence that has been seen and recorded by a great majority of people giving credence that something is true.

          • Vernon Sukumu

            Justin I have no personal need for religion being taught any were. However some folks want religion to be taught as or with science. I disagree with that. Pope Nichols V was the man who gave the Portuguese the o k to take slave out of Africa thus sanctioning slavery. It’s not just religious doctrine it’s also religious history. I took no religious studies in hi school or college, but religion still exist, my field social work, art, criminal justice, and many other subject should not be taught as science. But I don’t care if other folks wont to study religion,

          • Nate

            Good Point. Creationism is based largely on faith, But the fact remains that evolution too has not been scientifically proven.

          • Justin Napolitano

            Sorry but that is not true. Evolution is a proven theory. If you don’t believe me ask your doctor for drug that is no longer effective for a certain infection because the bacteria became resistant. That is evolution in action: the ability of something to evolve in order to survive. It happens quite simply because some incredibly small amount of bacteria can survive when a drug is used and those go on and reproduce and thus become resistant. It is simply the survival of the fittest which, of course, is evolution.

        • RobertCHastings

          Only if it is “comparative” religion, in which several religions are taught from an historical and social perspective, NOT from the doctrine perspective.

        • Allan Richardson

          I assume you mean teaching facts ABOUT religion. I’m in favor of that, if the textbooks are non-sectarian (i.e. with regard to ALL religions, not just all Christian denominations). A recent study showed that atheists, agnostics, and liberal followers of various religions had more FACTUAL knowledge of the Bible and its environmental influences than devout conservative Christians.

  • Allan Richardson

    I’ve always said the only thing wrong with Atlanta is being surrounded by Georgia1