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Saturday, January 20, 2018

Reprinted with permission from Andrews McMeel Syndication.

It’s no wonder that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell spent so many weeks hiding his version of Trumpcare, the bill that he hopes will repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act. It’s hideous.

It is a cruel bill that will leave millions of people without access to medical care while delivering a substantial tax cut to the wealthy. In other words, just like the version of Trumpcare that came from the House, the Senate version is a reverse Robin Hood: It takes from the poor to give to the rich.

So let’s get on with it. Republicans should go ahead and repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act, just as they’ve promised to do for seven years now.
No, this isn’t revenge-seeking. This isn’t a primal scream for retributive justice to be administered to all the working-class and poor folk who foolishly voted for President Donald J. Trump. Like many other Americans, I have family members and friends who have benefited from Obamacare and who would be adversely affected by its repeal. I don’t want them to suffer.

But years of political journalism have taught me much about how voters reach their decisions. And many of us need to experience the contrast between Obamacare and Trumpcare to understand what works best in the fractured and confusing health care marketplace.

The vast majority of Americans don’t spend hours poring over the ins and outs of tax policy or reading reams of analysis that explain how health care exchanges work. They react to the forces that buffet their own lives. They respond favorably to political decisions that make their lives better (cheaper access to good doctors), and they respond angrily to political decisions that make their lives more difficult (Medicaid cuts that force Grandma out of the nursing home).

Our political leaders have spent decades debating health care, but we haven’t arrived at any consensus. A repeal of Obamacare would give us our best shot at a national debate.

The Affordable Care Act isn’t perfect, but it represents a huge improvement. More than 20 million additional Americans have access to medical care because of it. Lives have been saved.

But conservatives were apoplectic when it passed. They were unhappy about a political victory for President Barack Obama because they were committed to painting his presidency as a failure. Equally important, conservatives are fundamentally opposed to government assistance for health care. (They were against the passage of Medicare back in the 1960s. A political neophyte named Ronald Reagan went around the country campaigning against it.) They believe that you should see a doctor only if you are able to pay for it on your own.

But they knew that Americans would like Obamacare if they got used to it, so they launched a propaganda campaign to portray it as a disastrous government intrusion. They claimed that any increase in the cost of insurance premiums was the fault of the ACA, although premiums had been soaring for years. They made up a ridiculous claim about “death panels” that would kill off the sick and infirm rather than pay for their doctors and prescriptions. They launched countless lawsuits to try to kill the ACA.

The propaganda was remarkably effective. Polls showed a high degree of skepticism toward Obamacare for years. That continued until very recently — when the campaign to replace it got serious. Gallup showed that only 42 percent of Americans approved of the ACA in November 2016, but 55 percent approved of it in April 2017. It’s hard to know what that means.

Republicans have interpreted their victory in November as a mandate to replace the ACA with Trumpcare. And, just in the last few days, they were buoyed by narrow GOP victories in special elections in Georgia and South Carolina.

They believe their policies, which include the repeal of Obama’s signature health care legislation, reflect the will of the people. Or, at the very least, they believe that they have gerrymandered enough congressional districts, amassed enough campaign donations from the super wealthy, and thrown enough black and brown people off the voting rolls that they will continue to win elections.

Let’s go ahead and test that theory.

(Cynthia Tucker won the Pulitzer Prize for commentary in 2007. She can be reached at cynthia@cynthiatucker.com.)

82 Responses to Repeal Obamacare And Let The Chips Fall Where They May

  1. Like most government programs, the ACA is far from perfect, and needs changes to guarantee it survives in a political climate where the well being of the poor, seniors, children, and the disabled is worth less than a pawn in a chess game. Repeal and replace is not the answer, especially when the replacement is a draconian piece of legislation that that affects, not only millions of poor Americans who depend on subsidized healthcare, but about 65% of seniors in nursing homes, who depend on MEDICAID to cover expenses. The changes that are being proposed are not being put forth because they are in the best interest of the American people. They are being promoted because (1) we, as a society, don’t have a sense of social responsibility, particularly if it involves higher taxes. (2) We demand Federal government programs that guarantee our national security and a path to a better way of life. We just don’t want to pay for it. (3) For a fairly large segment of our population, opposition to social programs does not mean they don’t want or do not benefit from those programs. They just want “undeserving” people to benefit from them. (4) Most of Trump’s EOs are part of a concerted effort to destroy the legacy of President Obama. The ACA, aka Obamacare, is at the centerpiece of the vindictiveness reserved for a man who dared usurp an office where his only role should have been to serve drinks to the privileged guests. Last, but not least, are the effects of relentless propaganda, misinformation worthy of the Third Reich, and a public more inclined to react to a cute slogan than take the time to familiarize themselves with the issues that are being debated, and how they affect their lives.

    • As usual, Dominick, your insight and awareness are above average. You mentioned nursing home costs. At 8,000 dollars a month, it becomes onerous for the average citizen. When all of their assets are gone, there is no more money for care and they must accept Medicaid. Most of these people were hard working people who contributed to society all their lives. Maybe if Dr. Kevorkian were still alive, trump could add him to his cabinet to seek a way to take care of those who are too ill or too weak to care for themselves. It would be like hitler’s “useless mouths.”

      • Ida…You know what these white males are doing. They want women in the homes taking care of children till menopause and then caring for their spouse’s and their own elderly parents. That way, women won’t ever have a voice in the all male bully government we have thanks to election rigging.

      • …and the GOP could add him to their Bill. Imagine how much cheaper it would to give a senior citizen a cyanide pill instead of paying for his/her nursing home costs. An easy decision for those who consider the lives of others in terms of dollars and cents.

          • …and the GOP could add him to their Bill. Imagine how much cheaper it would to give a senior citizen a cyanide pill instead of paying for his/her nursing home costs. An easy decision for those who consider the lives of others in terms of dollars and cents. //

            Don’t give them any ideas, Dom.

            the GOP are too cheap even pay the cyanide pill’s thy rather just not treat the people and let them die slow . one has wonder about just how many of the brain dead DUMPSTER voters understand just what’s going on ? do thy know that its all lies when the DUMPSTER promised he wasn’t going to touch Medicare& Medicaid and also promised that he would tax the greedy rich . these are all just straight out lies . and thy believed him . even being a president should have to go by standards . if be it some one go’s for a job interview and says he never did this or that on his Application and then thy find out every thing on his Application was lies thy can fire him . why not the same standards of the POTUS ? all the brain dead voters for the clown what’s wrong with them don’t thy have a clue ? and do thy know and is it ok that the DUMPSTER DONNY lied to them and the country ?

  2. If you think the GOP are cutting and running from Town Hall meetings now, wait until you see what happens to them when they finally pass this abortion of a piece of legislation! They will be reduced to using their franking privileges to tell their constituents who have lost access to doctors and to reduced cost prescriptions about how much better off they are under the AHCA, aka Trump-Lack-of-Care.
    Then let the chips fall where they may!

  3. As always, people must suffer and die before we take issues like this seriously. I guarantee you though, people will not suffer quietly. The problem is how much is too much? How far are politicians and rich folks willing to push their luck before people begin to stampeed in their general direction? Let’s see shall we?

  4. I hope millions march on Washington, if this bill passes. I hope Mitch McConnell has to send the rest of his miserable life living in fear, surrounded by security, and afraid to go out in public.

  5. I agree. Allow the Grifters On Parade criminal syndicate to extinguish Barry’s Baby. The 62.000,000 mostly pink folk who voted for the lying, racist,mendacious talking yam will have earned their hateful spots. Make America Grate Again.

  6. Yes, let’s test the theory that the GOP is truly interested in the welfare of all citizens.

    However, this is academic because ever since Nixon and Reagan, the GOP has shamelessly presented itself as singularly focused on big business, maintaining a wide gulf separating the rich from the less well off, looking backwards rather than forward, while maintaining a rabid adversarial stance to insure they stay in office.

    The GOP put itself further out on a limb by making it clear that their strategy from day 1 of President Obama’s tenure was to engage in open warfare along political and racial lines to oppose anything he might put forward. How can any political party lay claim to being responsible, mature, and selfless with that kind of posture. Racism, veiled and many times overt, was the driving force of the GOP, and still is. And the thought of accepting Obama’s health care vision was doomed while still in the earliest stages because of the disease of racism that smoldered in the breasts of the vast majority of the GOP, its media outlets, and its electoral base.

    To that end, they are eager to support policies that employ divide-and-conquer tactics and strategies. Such tactics and strategies feed into already fearful attitudes among those who for generations benefited from privileges afforded to those of a certain provenance and who have a “preferred” skin complexion. Such fears and hopes for special privilege contradict the very essence of being human, and contradicts every aspect of the common Essence enshrined in Christianity, Islam, Judaism, the Baha’i Faith, and every other Religion and indigenous Traditions.

    Therefore, any dispassionate observer would have to conclude that the GOP, and any entity sharing its values, have more in common with Satanic and idolatrous principles than with Religion in its essence. Which is why so many in the GOP, their flunkies, FOX, FOX-like entities, and those religious institutions that pay lip-service to Religion, find it impossible to articulate a position that touches on fundamental core human/spiritual values, and can only speak in terms of Trump, partisanship, and speak of mundane matters that only benefit those who look and think as they.

    Surely nothing godly whatsoever can be attributed to such a Party and its supporters.

    • The attack Obama plan has in fact worked well for the republicans, they didn’t take the beating they should have and even ripping insurance from a few million people may not be enough to wake up the country. People need to actually show up and vote if they want to save the country from the party of the 1%. Less then 27% of the registered voters voted for Trump but here he is President. In the mid terms back in 2014 we had such a low number of voters you only needed 13% of the registered voters to get a seat in congress. This isn’t because of disenfranchising voters, it because people are lazy or just don’t care. The people who show up to vote are the ones the republicans have scared enough to get them to the polls. Those people that are going to lose the healthcare coverage will in a lot of cases be the same ones who sat at home on election day. Maybe if the republicans inflict enough pain people will wake up but I some how doubt it. If Trump didn’t scare them then nothing will.

  7. I’m good with that.
    I’d even be fine with just relaxing and letting the GOP enact all their plutocratic tax cuts, social security net removal and blow jobs for corporations…
    Kansas sort of did that recently… and Brownback’s OWN PARTY finally gave him the metaphorical finger.

    Let them do whatever they want short of disenfranchisement.
    Apparently large percentages of Americans are too stupid and tribal to understand the results ahead of time… so make them live it.
    Maybe it will finally smash the epic screen of complete lies the GOP has been operating under for years.
    Who knows?

    What it will definitely do, however, is punish the stupid.
    Suits me.

  8. I completely agree with the premise of this article. Just like the ACA resulted in huge wins for the GOP in 2010 in terms of Congressional seats, this new “wealth care” bill working through the Senate could have the same effect in 2018 and beyond. I, too, hate to see people suffer but if it takes something like this to make Trump voters wake up and realize how detrimental GOP policies are to their well being, then so be it. The good news is that when the Dems get in, they can fix things, just like they had to do after both Bush administrations.

    • It may not work this time.. When dubya escalated the deficit into the trillions, Obama could hardly lessen that amount and still pay the nation’s bills.. In time he was able to reduce it but not before it had risen even more on his watch.. Now we have a run-away spender who will likely triple the deficit before he and the con job party are tossed out on their asses.. The current bills will still have to be paid and the 5% will bitch because they will have to pay their fair share again.. It won’t be easy for the dems to get this nation back on an even keel unless they’re able to reign for the next six terms. Two 4 year Dem terms will not accomplish the problems this country is now in.

  9. no its taking from the poor and giving it 2 the rich its taking it from the middleclass and giving it 2 the poor its the middle class in this country that’s taking a fucking with there insurance going up through the roof

    • There is something very wrong with healthcare being a for profit enterprise. The same goes with education. What kind of country has healthcare the bottom line on the stockmarket page of the Wall Street Journal?

  10. The most selfish party is not in charge. They are busy destroying everything that benefits the many to enrich the few. I hope Kentucky really suffers from this and everything else that poorly educated dipitin does that they sent to Washington. Thanks Kentucky. We shall remember you often for what you did.

      • I did a boo boo and changed it. You are right. My only experience with people from Kentucky is a man from our community married a girl from Kentucky, while in the service, and they moved across the street from us. She had about 6 kids when he married her. They were unbelievable. Wherever they happened to be when they needed to use a bathroom, they did it. The oldest was 10 and he just crapped in his pants and shook it down his leg. My kids dubbed it the Donny dance. His name was Donny. All of the neighbors were complaining. So, I tried to explain they should be using the toilet, not people’s lawns. They explained that where they came from they did not have a toilet. I said they must have had an outhouse. They said they did not even have an outhouse. This is the type of people who sent flabby jowls to Washington to crap all over our government.

  11. To all the non-1%’ers who voted for and continue to support Don the Con. Now is when stupid becomes painful. Enjoy.

  12. Those “chips” falling where they may are human lives. Of course, the wealthiest savages and their Confederate supporters only care about THEIR lives. So what if a child born with a heart defect dies. Just make sure Mommy has NO access to prenatal care, contraception and heaven forbid Abortion! Abortion? OMG Absolutely outrageous! How dare any woman even consider destroying any man’s seed. After all, he GAVE it to her. She can’t just toss it away. Does explain why Viagra is still going to be covered by Medicare though doesn’t it? That way men can spew their seed till they are ready for the last wooden coat.

    • Poor Elle, Still demonstrating your penis envy! What about the 23 million Americans who will not have healthcare by 2020 – and that’s under obozocare – according to the CBO! Are you saying just ignore those 23 million? How hypocritical of you.
      And what about the millions who will see, and have seen, their premiums go up by 25-35% in just two years. What until they see their premiums for 2018 – another 25%+ increase. And just who do you think they’ll blame? Why it’ll be none other than obozocare and the Dems.
      After the poor showing by the Dems since obozo was elected (over 1000 seats lost) I sure hope you sheep keep Pelosi around. She was the reason that the GA seat stayed GOP.

      • UnInformedVoter, you seem to be mixing up your facts. It is the GOP bill that will cost 23 million Americans their health insurance, not the ACA. This fact has been in several news stories, including the NYTimes.

        You mention a number of 20 million that you say will lose insurance because of the ACA, but mention no source for your numbers. Fact is that the ACA has reduced the rate of medical cost inflation. Again, the NYTimes, et al.

        As for Rep. Pelosi, note that California in general and the Bay Area in particular has the largest economy in the country, with low unemployment and high job growth. Sure, we have problems, many as byproducts of our success, but we’re working on them. Meanwhile, my daughter in Georgia is having a hard time finding a decent job. Georgia and the rest of the US could use some San Francisco values.

        • Sorry Charlie, you make this too easy!. The 23 million the CBO identified as not having health insurance are the same 23 million that will lose their health insurance under obozocare. That’s a little tidbit the FAKE MSM likes to hide from the public! In other words, the 23 million the CBO identified that would not have insurance in 2020 under the proposed plan will not have insurance if obozocare is not repealed! Both leave the same 23 million without insurance.
          And lest you place too much credence on the CBO, look how badly they predicted the insurance premiums would be under obozocare! qed.

          Don’t talk too highly of how financially great CA is. After spending their money on sanctuary cities, when the rains came, they had to beg the Feds for relief money. So it looks like they were fiscally irresponsible! They spend their money on candy and then they don’t have enough money to buy food. Typical immature action.

          Today’s news sources are brimming with stories about Dems wanting to dump Pelosi. I would like to see her stay. She has hurt the Dem party in so many ways. Why do you think Ossoff lost so badly – after the same polls that predicted HilLIARy would win, showed Ossoff with double digit leads. Then the GOP paraded out ads that focused on Pelosi and guess what happened? The hoard came out to vote against Pelosi. Ossoff spent $8 million more than his opponent. The Dems drug out scads of Hollywood “stars” and plastered the area with posters. And then he lost so badly all because of Pelosi!

          Your comments about SF financial success are a straw man, which is clear from the rest of the state. They are nearing the death spiral where they will paying out more than they can take in. Can’t you hear that sucking sound!

          • You do like to create your most masteful lies don’ t you? The CBO specifically stated that those 23 million will lose their healthcare insurance, as well as seniors on Medicare and Medicaid, which by the way, we already paid for on a state and federal level, is due to Trumpcare slashing as the REPUBLICAN Senator from Oregon stated, $800 million from Medicaid.

            I hope you or one of your loved ones gets into a very serious accident and you are dropped from your insurance. Men with no balls and big mouths never learn until it hits them.

            Remember, a single car accident can cause medical bankruptcy. Better pray some drunk in your hick state doesn’t cause you serious injuries.

            I know you think you are Superman. But, the fact remains that 90% of all healthcare claims for those under the age of “46” are caused by auto or work related accidents.

          • Poor Elle, you haven’t the brain power to respond when it’s so obvious that you have entered into a battle of wits when you’re only half prepared.
            obozocare was to take $800 billion from Medicare, so why didn’t you shout protest then?
            You did make me feel better though. I’m over the age of 46, so that means it’s only a 10% chance.
            Boy the sun is really shining bright – I just read that Justice Kennedy may announce his retirement and that will give President Trump another appointment. And when that happens, Ginsberg can’t be far behind! Yup, the sun is really shinning.

          • Moron…..That $800 billion is in the Republican bill they are trying to pass. You can puff up your ego by implying you are smarter than Obama, but you NEVER made it to the White House did you?

            As I stated, I hope and wish on you that your HMO jacks the price of your premiums, copays and deductibles. That way, you will know more than the HMO geniuses ripping you off and you can show them how smart you are.

            You are a pathetic piece of trash. Your only claim to fame is bitching and griping because others see and know you are a phony.

          • Poor Elle, obozocare calls for $800 billion in Medicare cuts. Where do you think the term “death panels” came from? Many seniors are already experiencing these cuts as they are told they can’t have the second knee replaced because they’re too old, etc.
            As to having premiums jacked up, it’s already happening this year and next year and, according to the CBO, it’ll happen in 2019 and beyond. Typical premium rates are going up by 24 – 35% each year and will continue to increase.
            That’s why obozocare is dying under it’s own weight.

            I see the SCOTUS reinstated the travel ban you claimed was unconstitutional. As I told you before, obozo issued an EO in 2011 with the same ban, but ordered that it not be enforced. Constitutional then and constitutional now. Duh!

            And now that tampering with the election by the Russians goes back to obozo, not to President Trump. So we should expect a full investigation as to why obozo wanted President Trump to win and not HilLIARy! I just love it.

          • As usual, you have your own version of everything. So let me be the first to disabuse you of your ideas you can bandy lies and distortions about.

            Obama NEVER cut $800 billion from Medicaid. What Obama did was to implement AFFORDABLE healthcare so that those on Medicaid who could afford their own healthcare insurance could do so.

            The idea of the ACA was to put affordable healthcare every other country of the world has in place. By allowing thousands more smaller insurance companies to provide insurance at more affordable rates than the Big 6, a monopoly for over 4 decades, more people who relied on the state and federal Medicaid were able to be removed from these already paid for programs.

            In NJ, you pay for Medicaid on a state AND federal basis. I know that since as an accounting manager, I saw the payroll deductions from each employee’s paycheck reduce their gross pay.

          • Sorry Elle, but you are incorrect. Where do you think the phrase death panels came from? Yup, $800 billion was cut from Medicare and millions of seniors are getting hurt. That’s the truth!
            obozocare was poorly written and no one knew what was in it. Pelosi’s comment proved that!
            The only way obozocare got passed was because the Dems used a rarely used tactic to keep Kenned’s replacement (Brown) from shooting the plan down. The voters in MA elected Brown to stop obozocare from becoming law and the Dems decided to stick it to the voters anyway and you wonder why they have turned so many Dems out of office.

            Accounting manager? That makes 16 careers!

            I guess you don’t see that you’re fast becoming a joke in the forums.

          • As the famous Walter O. Scott once wrote, “Oh what tangled webs we weave when first we practice to deceive.”

            Now, death panels was the right wing BS cry that was lobbed at the AHCA by Republicans who from the minute ANY hint of healthcare reform has EVER been breathed onto the floor of Congress has been “death panels.”

            Was it? By 2015, the number of uninsured Americans according to the US census taken by the government showed a decrease, not an increase. Now, would you, in your moronic attempts to make Trumpcare which is a DEATH Panel form of healthcare reform that would deny anyone over the age of 46 healthcare insurance for “existing conditions,” cost the oldest Americans an average of $5,000 a year more in insurance premiums and infants born with congential defects to DIE?

            Let me guess moron. Right to live doesn’t count when you asshats love that Right to FORCE women to have NO prenatal healthcare that is remotely affordable. How about if you get a sick dick and we decide that’s a pre existing condition you’ll just have to suffer with or drop dead from?

            Death panels was the same BS Gingrich used when Hillary back in 1994 tried to get healthcare reform to pass. Just imagine if she had done just that. Your CEOs of the HMOs and Big Pharma would have to learn to live in far less than those asshat Billion dollar salaries they earn in 2017 wouldn’t they?

            The AHCA is here to stay. Your Republican prickheads have ZERO to replace it with. They can’t repeal it anyway until 2018 because it is LAW. And if they drop 23 million people from healthcare insurance, how isn’t that a Republican death panel?

            Grow up moron. When handicapped people were seen around the world protesting this week at Mitch the Bitch’s office door, one of them blind, another with an oxygen tank and another in a wheelchair hauled off by cops, that’s an image you rotten no good right wingers will be haunted by for the rest of your lives. Don’t get dick sick. You won’t get covered thanks to your Death Panel mentality.

            So, 23 million in 2015 had affordable healthcare insurance but that’s a death panel? Trump is going down and even his own Republican are fed up with the powerprick.

          • You still have the racist supporting your views. What does that tell you about you comments! Yup, the death panels are real. Thousands of seniors have been denied basic medical care because they are considered too old! If that’s not a death panel then I don’t know what is.

            And obozocare is not here to stay. It can be starved funding beginning in 2018 and beyond. And they don’t have to replace it. It’s dying of its own failures. And there you go again talking about the 23 million losing their health care under the GOP plan. These same 23 million lose their healthcare under obozocare too. How hypocritical of you.
            Meanwhile your definition of President Trump is falling on stupid (not deaf) ears. He keeps delivering his campaign promises, saving thousands of UAW jobs and making America great again. If you call that going down, then buy all means I love the job President Trump is doing.

          • One of my husband’s hospital bills was $700,000. Fortunately, we had Medicare and a supplement. As far as the mandate goes, when I worked at the hospital, 20 years ago, for every 2500 dollars a person paid, $800 went to pay for those who didn’t, wouldn’t or couldn’t. Healthcare should never have been a for profit enterprise. That is barbaric.

          • One of the basic premises of the southern and midwestern cultures is to get something for nothing. Not for the reasons we might imagine. When we end up paying for what others don’t, that saves their states from the responsibility to provide affordable healthcare for their constituents.

            Take a look at where the greatest number of for profit prisons are all located: In Republican states. Not because the necessarily have more criminals to house. Because these states know they can run to the federal trough and get billions every year in funding and all they have to do is whine how “packed” their prisons are and how they need to build more.

            What they don’t say is that their law enforcement in these states have “quotas” to maintain every month. That means each law officer, like any salesman, has to jail a specific number of criminals in order to be eligible for federal funding.

            Once you consider how often you hear the Republican cry of “Save Save Save!” you smell the rotten odor of extortion of public funds.

            That $800 likely went directly to a Republican state insurance business who will then string out the $800 to cover the least number of people for that amount.

        • Misinformed always posts lies and distortions. It occurs to me he is really Kelly Ann Conway in disguise, including those calloused knees she has from bowing to Lard Ass.

          CA is already refusing to abide by Trump’s insane policies. They are not going to allow a decrease in environmental regulations. Neither will NY and NJ.

          Misinformed won’t like to be reminded that CA has the 6th best economy in the world as a result of jobs in Silicon Valley and the entertainment business.

          The reality is that the states that take the most from our government is proven by the statistics at the GAO. The top 10 states that have the highest number on welfare are ALL Republican states, with the exception of Maine which is a “purple” state.

          Every Republican state gets back more than the $1 they pay in federal taxes. Compare that to the Dems states who get an average of 55 cents for their dollar.

          That means that without Dem states providing top economies and tax dollars, the Republican states would go broke like they did after the Civil War. Like they did during the Great Depression and the Dust Bowl.

          It isn’t that Dem states mind helping GOP states. It is that Dem states get the shaft for trying to help. Bite the hand that feeds and the hand disappears.

          • You are kind to label these trolls as misinformed. Eleanor, they are lying, out and out lying.

          • I’m beginning to call liars “liars” and not “fibbers.” I find it necessary not to soft sell lies and thieves like Trump.

        • Two wonderful things that came out of the ACA: 80% (from 45%) from insurance premiums, has to go back into healthcare. One CEO received a 22 billion dollar bonus for reducing payouts (Blue Cross) before the ACA. A catastrophic illness could put the policy holder above the cap and they would have no more insurance. The cap was eliminated. The other good thing is they cannot refuse to insure for pre-existing conditions. What the ill-informed and ignorant and proud do not realize, is that this country is barbaric when it comes to things that benefit the many.

          • The major reason the ACA wasn’t not helped to become what President Obama originally planned was due to Republicans brutally sabotaging it by refusing to all their own Republican states or states with Republican governors to implement the ACA agencies.

            New York state did. Now, their healthcare costs 11% less than NJ’s because our moron Republican governor claimed he “didn’t know what the costs would be.” BS. He knew precisely what the cost of paying off 6 of Trump’s corporate bankruptcies would be.

            He knew allowing Trump to claim that farm subsidy for his Bedminister golf course he claims is a “residence and not a business” so he doesn’t have to pay business taxes was going to dump the taxes Trump doesn’t pay on taxpayers.

            The US is the ONLY country of the world with Billionaire HMO and Big Pharma CEOs that can’t offer affordable healthcare.

        • He isn’t “informed.” His information is planted because he is a Putin paid troll whose only job is distortion of truth and facts.

          He loves nothing more than trying to create the same brand of Putineska chaos by his mostly futile attempts at reinterpretation.

          It’s like when Putin was accused of poisoning Alexander Litvenenko with polonium ONLY accessible by the Putin government. Misinformed would deny this too even though it has already been proven beyond doubt.

          I guess if he’s so low on the life scale as to be subhuman so he reach for anything that makes him feel valid.

          • Poor Elle, you love to wildly claim things are proven when they’re not! Just like you claims that President Trump was guilty of robbing from NJ and would be hauled off to jail at any time.

            Your problem is that you’re so full of penis envy for the jobs you didn’t get or the promotions you didn’t get and every time it was a man who got the prize and poor Elle was left holding the garbage bag.

      • You must like being banned right nutbag? The 23 million Americans who won’t have healthcare are not a result of Obamacare. It is a result of Trumpcare and the lust and greed of morons of the right and the Republicans hellbent on making sure the pass another tax cut, the 4th since Bush ’43 took office.

        Do yourself a favor and stop posting. Nothing you post is truth or fact.

        I blame men who are liars all the time. You don’t. I blame men who steal from others. You don’t. I blame MEN like McConnell who had 60 handicapped protestors outside his office, one blind, one with an oxygen tank to help her stay alive and another who tried to stand up to cops arresting them.

        Doesn’t say much for the Republicans who don’t give a fat rat’s ass about those who need help. You better hope your Lard Ass in chief doesn’t need help getting himself out of prison, because there are people in NJ who plan to celebrate when he does.

        • Thank you for helping prove my point about sheep like you being low information and poorly informed!
          Yup, the CBO analyzed the GOP plan and proudly declared that 23 million would lose their health insurance. The CBO also did the same analysis of obozocare and quietly declared that 23 million would lose their health care by 2020. So, while they may not be the exact same 23 million, the net result is the same.
          So you’re still spouting about NY and NJ suing President Trump and he’s going to jail – well, we all know that’s not going to happen. No proof of Russia collusion, no argument for obstruction of justice, the list goes on and on for each and every FAKE MSM so-called scandal they made up. Lots of wasted effort by you poorly informed folks. Meanwhile, President Trump just keeps marching along delivering campaign promise after promise.
          Last week you were claiming that assoff would win and this would be the turning point of running President Trump out of office. Well, how did that turn out for you? If I recall, you stated that the only way assoff would lose is if Russia hacks the election. Oh my, and in front of all those observers too!
          Now Pelosi is in danger of losing here leadership role. Personally, I’d like her to stay. Since getting elevated in 2003, the Dems have now lost over 1100 seats! Good job nutty lady!

          This week the SCOTUS will reinstate the EO on the FAKE muslim ban – spoiler alert – it’s not.
          It’s the same EO obozo issued in 2011, but then he told folks to not enforce it. It was legal back then and thus, it’s legal now.
          Try doing a little leg work before you engage that potty mouth of yours. You may find that you don’t get your comments ripped to shreds so often.

          • Thank you for proving MY point. Do you always toss out ambiguous posts that are like Swiss cheese? Full of holes. Since I know I am not the only one you try to attack, do tell us why you think you are more intelligent than Einstein, the Founding Fathers, Christ Almighty, Ghandi and of course, as we all know….you can prove this right?

            You can claim your ass off that you “informed.” But, we know that Putin is the only one who “informs” you asshat.

          • Sorry Elle, the reason I AM INFORMED more than you and your sorry flock of sheep is that I don’t watch just FAKE MSM like CNN, MSNBC and read only seriously biased newspapers like WP and NYT.
            I view left-biased sources to see what kind of lies they’re spewing today and then verify the information by checking foreign news sources. The foreign press was never as kind to obozo as the FAKE MSM was during his 8 years of terror!

  13. Except for a couple of serous issues I disagree with democrats on I would love to see republicans cripple their party with their bad decisions, I always get a good laugh from their screw ups like their first attempt at a healthcare bill which was awful and failed now another bad bill which will likely fail, they thought they could do so much better then democrats clearly in some critical issues they can’t.

    • I would like to see the republican party evolve into sanity. I do not want to be the target of their bad decisions and screw-ups. I want them to grow up to be good citizens who truly care about the needs of our communities. I am sooo tired of their infantile greed.

          • So many authors have written and seem to all conclude the same thing about the Republican party and conservatism: The RNC is the stepping stone to keeping a permanent Republican majority by allowing ONLY sleepers to run for president.

            The RNC specifically chose Reagan because the back room GOP never again wanted a Republican president to resign in disgrace. Dozens of authors all write the same thing: Nixon was not an obedient Republican who did what he was told.

            When Bush ’41 and Cheney were part of the Nixon administration, the former as a CIA head and the latter Nixon’s chief aide, they had access to Reagan’s medical records and knew he was already in the 1st stages of Alzheimers. So much the better for the tyrant Republican chieftains.

            When Bush ’41 was elected, he was already a deeply embedded “YES” man to the GOP. No obedience problem there. When his son was elected via a SC decision and 4 years later via his brother’s state of Florida, Sonny’s job was to be the talking head front man, loyal and obedient to the tenets of Republican conservatism.

            What makes me laugh? Every Republican President since Warren Harding has had a major scandal, starting with TeaPot Dome, Hoover’s Crash of ’20 and the Great Depression, Nixon’s WaterGate, Reagan’s Iran ContraGate, Bush ’41’s Recession and involvement in IranContraGate and Bush ’43 Sept. 2008 Financial Meltdown.

            Now as we all know, Republican white males are unusually competitive with each other. So you can bet Lard Ass in Chief will want to make his scandal the biggest and worst in Republican History. People are already taking bets on that.

          • Well, there were sporadic events before him on both sides but as far as consistency, you’re correct. Even most libs liked Ike as he was actually one of us and fought along the average American so he knew the nation’s pains and desires first hand. Also, he and his family were far from wealthy.. Ike was the poster child of the middle class American.

          • It was actually after Gingrich, who, as Speaker of the House, advised all the Republicans that they would no longer be allowed to socialize with Democrats. If they did, they would be censured. This is what separated the parties significantly, and it’s only gotten worse. But, this healthcare plan is bringing them back together slowly but surely. I’m keeping my fingers crossed that they will see the merit of working together against this president and the more conservative members of the Senate.

        • I can…they’re talking about working together now on this healthcare bill to see if BOTH parties can come up with a plan that will satisfy the greater majority. As I said above, this might be the FIRST time that they’ve agreed to reach across the aisle and work together…..let’s hope it works and that it lasts.

          • You have more confidence in this gathering than I have, congratulations. Recent history shows that the cons are only out for themselves but as they’re desperate for a success I guess we’ll see what transpires. It’s not that I’m against this, I just think it will be a one sided debate. They already know the plan that will satisfy the greater majority but they’re just not willing to include everyone.. Many have to be sacrificed in order to save money which is an oxymoron for this g’ment. It was not created as a for profit entity. It’s function is to enact budgets that will care for it’s nation’s citizens, not it’s corporations nor other countries corporations.

        • Not to worry. The Republicans are in no hurry to end the Russian hacking. Trump says it’s a witch hunt even when his own party has stated otherwise. It took 18 months before WaterGate was discovered and 3 years before Nixon was forced to resign.

          No matter how much Trump tries to cover his tracks, he isn’t that smart that he can match wits with people investigating where the money flowed.

      • Don’t hold your breath…..although I have read in the LA Times this morning that several of the more moderate Republicans are working WITH the Democrats to see if they can come up with a better bill that will work. This might be the FIRST time we see both parties working together, and the most we can hope for is that they continue. Our government can’t run like it has…..BOTH parties have to work together, discuss, and negotiate bills that come before them. They can’t become separate islands! It hasn’t worked since Gingrich started the ball rolling; and it ain’t gonna work now. Both parties have to work together to go around this president and get things done that will WORK for the nation!

  14. It’s a shame that Mitch McConnell, only elected by a majority of Kentuckians, has more political power than he deserves. He is not only a hired hand of coal industry Mafia, he is a racist bigot and a sworn enemy of President Obama, who was twice elected by the majority of American voters. Once becoming the Majority leader he vowed to make sure Obama was “one-term President” only. He opposed him on every legislative issue. He denied him the seat on the SCOTUS. He championed against Affordable Care Act repeatedly without offering an alternative. Yet he doesn’t have guts enough to stand up to Trump’s love affair with Putin and his oligarchs.

    • What’s really absurd, Kentucky was a state that benefited more than most due to Obamacare. But the “simpletons” in that state will continue to send McConnell and Rand Paul back to Washington.

      • From what I’ve read (see my note above), I don’t think that’s going to happen. McConnell and Ryan have totally pissed off Kentuckians, and they are looking for blood!

    • I was reading an article in Daily KOS, and many, many Kentuckians have said that it is their aim to get McConnell out of power! They are very upset with him and his shenanigans and don’t plan on re-electing him. However, I think he plans on retiring when his time comes in 2020….lucky us!

  15. Of course Obamacare must be repealed & replaced. Who, in their right mind, would leave this failed disaster as is to harm millions of Americans. These Leftist, biased articles always fail to mention how Unaffordable Obamacare is, how many insurers have opted out, how expensive premiums & deductibles are & climbing fast, how Obamacare was rammed through in the middle of the night without Congress even knowing what was in it, how people could not keep their plans, Doctors, or save $2,500. This Socialist mess got off to a disastrous start, & Americans were lied to.
    The Democrat-Socialist Party needs to work on helping solve this mess by trying to work with ways to improve & help Americans, not play politics with Millions of lives. This is one of the reasons Americans were fed up with Politicians & elected someone that isn’t bought off: President Trump!

    • Oh yeah. That year of discussion including 102 public hearings, 160 GOP amendments were purely imaginary.

      Actually the recent issues with the ACA such that they are were the result of funding reductions constructed and pushed for by Sen. Rubio knowing that most GOP voters would not realize that what he did caused these problems you are talking about. Talk about chutzpah. Like shooting your parents then asking for mercy because you are an orphan.

    • Hey, Pat, My insurance premiums did increase after Obamacare, but not nearly as much as before Obamacare, the premiums quadrupled in the four years before Obamacare. and about 12% under Obamacare. I am now one of those folks who will be charged as much as 5 times the amount charged to younger folks, and I have a pre existing condition, so I probably will be excluded from getting any coverage at any price. You can keep your stupid ideology. As a taxpayer (YES! LIBERALS DO PAY TAXES) and as an American citizen, I value life and community and the health of my country over mere money.

    • Your creeps still don’t get it do you.. The ACA failed for one reason, the entire nation refused to get on the bus.. This meant what could have been was wiped out before it could be.. You wanna know why Obamacare failed? Ask the conservative run red states who refused to participate then compare millions of premium owners paying their monthly fees for a healthcare that would have otherwise been successful as it would continue to amended to fit the people’s needs to a program that lost almost half the paid customers causing a burden on the ones who did sign up that created a year end penalty that wasn’t close in covering those who refused to sign up to those who couldn’t join because the rates had to be raised in order to meet the needs of the ones who did sign up to an outcry of this penalty, mostly from the right, that Obamacare is a failure to it’s eventual end. Ask your right-wing buddies about ACA’s failure, I’m sure they will be more than happy to brag about their part in it’s failure. Except for the GOP party, no one was lied to, it would have worked had we all signed up and given ACA the chance to succeed. Now we pay for it with trumpdontcare, possibly even worse than what we had before Obamacare.

  16. This article dovetails with my predictions. Well before the election I predicted that if a Republican were to win the White House by 2020 or latest 2028 the GOP will be a marginal footnote. Their economic policy toolkit is so limited (tax cuts and give aways) and theoretically based on such unfettered nonsense that being in control will lead to such a mammoth meltdown that no politician that wants to be elected to any job will admit to even knowing the GOP (just like the 1930’s).

    The approximate timeframe for Laissez faire meltdowns was confirmed by the events of 2008. Twelve years after the banking protections in Glass Steagal were eliminated we had a new banking melt down.

    Enjoy y’all.

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