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Tuesday, October 25, 2016

Romney: All Moms Are Working Moms (Unless They’re On Welfare)

Romney: All Moms Are Working Moms (Unless They’re On Welfare)

Is this the end of “Mommy-gate?”

Republicans spent much of the past week attacking Hilary Rosen’s remark that Ann Romney “never worked a day in her life,” and Mitt Romney himself said on Friday that “I happen to believe all moms are working moms.”

Except, apparently, mothers who are on welfare.

MSNBC’s “Up w/ Chris Hayes” unearthed a video on Sunday which promises to erode Romney’s moral high ground on the issue. While campaigning in New Hampshire in January, Romney claimed that “even if you have a child two years of age, you have to go to work.”

“I wanted to increase the work requirement. I said, for instance, that even if you have a child two years of age, you need to go to work. And people said, ‘Well that’s heartless,’ and I said ‘No, no, I’m willing to spend more giving daycare to allow those parents to go back to work. It’ll cost the state more providing that daycare, but I want the individuals to have the dignity of work.'”

For her part, Ann Romney doesn’t seem to be particularly bothered by by the controversy. Although she appeared outraged by Rosen’s comments during an interview with Fox News last week, she was singing a different tune at a weekend fundraiser.

“It was my early birthday present for someone to be critical of me as a mother,” she said, “and that was really a defining moment, and I loved it.”

Update: Romney’s January speech wasn’t the only time that he slammed stay-at-home moms. ThinkProgress has found a passage from Romney’s autobiography in which he insists that the children of “nonworking parents” will be conditioned to lead “an indolent and unproductive life.”

Welfare without work erodes the spirit and the sense of self-worth of the recipient. And it conditions the children of nonworking parents to an indolent and unproductive life. Hardworking parents raise hardworking kids; we should recognize that the opposite is also true. The influence of the work habits of our parents and other adults around us as we grow up has lasting impact.

Romney presumably doesn’t think of his own five sons as “indolent and unproductive;” as he said in 2009, he believes that they are serving their country by trying to get him elected.

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  • and there you have it.

  • ObozoMustGo

    Any of you leftist nutjobs that read what Mitt said and disagree with him are clearly stupid beyond repair. He is 100% correct. All you have to do to understand that the welfare state is a rotten and morally corrupt system is to look at Detroit. That’s what you get when the government takes “care” of every need…. a sheethole dump of a city that should probably be completely burned to the ground and started over.

    Have a nice day!

    • frivolous01

      This might be the first time I’ve agreed with you, although you could have worded it a little nicer. While I believe in welfare, I think it should be limited to families with children and disabled people. In Florida there is a requirement that people on welfare actively seek work, Florida provides training and job search assistance. I don’t know how well it’s working but it beats the hell out of just letting people stay on welfare forever and raise their children to stay on welfare forever.

      • ObozoMustGo

        friv… If you understand the rationale for Romney’s statements and my commentary, then you clearly are NOT a leftist nutjob. Probably just a liberal which is OK. We can work together. But any sane person knows and understands the cycle of dependency that crushes the human spirtit and leads to massive poverty, crime, and cultural decay. And it MUST BE STOPPED!

        Have a nice day!

        • frivolous01

          I don’t know about that, my brother is pretty sure I’m a leftist nut job…

          • ObozoMustGo

            friv… I’ll go with your brother’s judgement. LOL 🙂

    • Only cowards hide behind a fictitious name and ranks like an idiot about everyone else’s position…As far as the Left is concerned we are much more grounded in fact then you and the rest of the clowns on the right! I’ve read a lot of posts and you are by far the biggest asshole with no sense that I’ve seen…Do us a big favor and pull your head out of your ass and move to a country that give a shit about bigots like you!

      • ObozoMustGo

        Looks like you changed your post, Hicks! For all who did not see how classy and reasoned a leftist nutjob Hicks is, I will copy his post that was sent to me. Clearly, Hicks, you’re in the “not repairable” category! Have a nice day!

        “Ronald Hickey Sr wrote, in response to ObozoMustGo:
        Only cowards hide behind a fictitious name and ranks like an idiot about everyone else’s position…As far as the Left is concerned we are much more grounded in fact then you and the rest of the clowns on the right! I’ve read a lot of posts and you are by far the biggest asshole with no sense that I’ve seen…Do us a big favor and pull your head out of your ass and move to a country that give a shit about bigots like you! ”

        • 1AmericanHoney27

          Bozo who are you to to tell Americans where to go. We could all tell you where to go as well but it surely wouldn’t be to another country. Wake up & smell the coffee. Stop talking out the side of your neck…. Listen to Hicks & learn something you ignorant A$$. Offer still stands on the Prep H.

      • 1AmericanHoney27

        OBAMA 2012 & Hopefully Hillary in 2016. We all know after what Bush & his cronies have done to our wonderful country it will be 20 years at least be4 we will be as we were when Bill was in office.

  • Well, lets see about that Serve your country.

  • gmail2

    Romney mom said welfare mom does not work. Is that the voice of people with money who have people taking care of their children while they go to the club. Give me a break. Welfare mom does work, I have seen it taking care of children, a home, cooking and cleaning yourself is work, so for those folks that think different they have lost touch with the real world and real people. Everyone can not have a nanny, babysitter or maid.

    • ObozoMustGo

      Too many of you leftist nutjobs actually believe that it is acceptable for one to live off the labor of their neighbor. It is that belief that is EXACTLY the problem in America… that somehow, you are “entitled” to some benefit that someone else must pay for. And then your game plan for defending this is to play class warfare and pit as much of America as you can against those that are financially successful. It’s the same old garbage from you nutjobs on the left and it’s disgusting! I’m tired of it and I will not stand by silently any longer. You like the welfare state? Then get the heck out of America and go to Europe.

      Have a nice day!

      • BOZO – you are not only wrong as usual, you’re wrong at the top of your lungs. I’m puzzled by the “I will not stand by silently any longer” comment. Is this just more of your unbalanced mental state or do you have something really disagreeable in mind? You need to go inside now. Recess is over.

      • Drew_a

        “financially successful” isn’t acceptable by everyone, and rewards only a few postitions valued by society, not the majority of skills that are neccesary in our society. Nurses and Teachers for example

      • not a leftist nor a nutjob, but see merits in both parties, very un american of you to just dismiss the opposing view and order the opposition out. As a Marine Corps veteran, I served the entire American population as they are, who are you to think otherwise ?

        • ObozoMustGo

          Thank you for your service to America, Joseph!

          As a Marine, you took an oath to uphold The U.S. Constitution, not the teachings of Karl Marx or the Communist Manifesto. Those are 180 degree opposite schools of thought. My suggestion to leave America is not an “order” to tell those who adhere to concepts of socialism to get out because I say so. In fact, it comes on the heals of a question. Perhaps the more accurate way to make my point would be “If you like the welfare state, then you are free to leave and go to Europe”. Does that help?

          Have a nice day! And thank you again, Joseph, for your sacrifices for us. 🙂

    • EdC

      You know the light bulb went on just above my head. I don’t usually bet, but I’ll bet that Romney house pays so little to the nannies, that they, the nannies were on food stamps and if not on welfare, were likely close to it.

    • W-2 replaced AFDC over 10 years ago, in order to receive W-2 a woman MUST work. The Federal Government requires all Women who receive W-2 to work or be enrolled in school taking classes that will lead to work. There IS NO WELFARE, at least on the Federal level. There also is a limit on how long you will receive aid for and the number of children that will be covered.

  • Tosa720

    Flip-Flopney once again contradicts himself. Last week he & his wife feigned outrage over Hillary Rosen’s remark about Ann Romney never having worked in the work world. The couple was outraged and immediately glorified Ann’s stay-at-home Mom status. Moms who stay at home are working Moms, and they are to be idolized for their efforts to raise their children. Today – now – Monopoly Mitt changes his tune to say that Moms who need any kind of financial assistance should get to work instead of staying home to raise their children. I also marvel at how he has terminated hundreds of working Moms throughout his tenure at Bain Capital, and then he blames them for not having a job!!! See something out of whack here? I surely do. What is it Flip-Flopney? You can’t have this all ways. What is your real position? Or are you just a merry-go-round where your views change depending who is standing around the perimeter?

    • EdC

      While not a Mormon, hasn’t anyone noticed that Mormans ARE, thank God extremely helpful to their own. Jobs are found by the church, I believe child care is provided by the church, and if for some reason a mother, or any woman becomes single, as oked by the church she is provided for by the church, this somethng that the rest of us should abide by for everyone, BUT princess Ann still has not had the problems faced even by a real stay at home mom.

  • JaneSnow

    What do his 5 sons do? Besides “try to get him elected”/work for daddy.

    • pucko69

      they’re practicing being indolent and unproductive because after all they’ll have daddys money….his poor wife has to live with no sense of worth…good luck

      • EdC

        I’m sorry, while I like you comment, they are studying just like their dad how to screw regular businesses and employees out of work and into even a tighternet super sociaty of the priveledge

  • responsibleparenting

    never understand why attack Romney for speaking the truth? he is not talking about all parents, he is talking about parents on welfare without work. What he said is true! Generations of indolent and unproductive families are the ones we need to change and this country can get better. Why are working parents work so hard to raise kids and to put food on the table? Because it’s what normal, decent human being should do. Taking monthly tax payers’s money to feed yourself and your kids (and proceed to have 5 or 7 kids) are not decent. If you cannot even make enough money, what right do you have to use other people’s money to feed your kids? It’s unethical! It’s the politicians way to buying this population’s vote using other people’s money. I am so disgusted by this but even more by people continue to defend and enable the “welfare state”. Welfare without effective ways to get them out of the hole just breed more people with immoral thinking in this class. How many kids do those recipients have? at least 3 and as many as 5-6 average, or more. Do the math, that’s why democrats have to keep them there to count on their votes. Disgusting!

    • ObozoMustGo

      I raise a toast to you, responsible! Here, here!

      • BOZO- stop encouraging the weakminded. It only deepens their confusion.

        • ObozoMustGo

          bigblunder.. you would know deep confusion as well as anyone… just sayin

    • do you think doing away with birth control will help . if people would cut down on the births on this world i would gladly donate to birth control. [any form]

  • jebediah123

    Of course, there are many sides to a story, many ways of understanding a certain situation. As far as the poor are concerned, we could go to the bible and read Christ’s words—“the poor will always be with us” or go to the old testament and read “we are our brother’s keeper”.
    Or we could accept the belief of Mr. “Obozo Must Go” that many of the poor are lazy, shiftless freeloaders standing in line for endless freebies from the federal government.

    But you know, I think Christ recognized that a certain amount of people are born without the intelligence or skills to support themselves in a “socially acceptable” manner and will always need some type of assistance from their “brother’s keepers”.

    So I am sorry to say that we are not all born with THE ALL ENCOMPASSING, DEEP INTELECTUAL UNDERSTANDING of life’s social issues as Mr. “Obozo Must Go”.

    In other word’s, (in the jargon of us “poor folk”) Mr. “Obozo Must Go” has got to be a very COMPLETE ASSHOLE.

    • 1AmericanHoney27

      I offered to send Bozo a few tubes of Prep H to suck on and give us all some relief But he’s too ignorant to accept them.

    • EdC

      Amen, Has anyone realized what the political party of the day Jesus was killed would be called today. Give you a hint they don’t like a man healing the sick, they don’t like a man giving hope to the poor.

  • Well explain what you mean that every mother is aworking mother unless you are on welfare well those mother love there children just as much as mitt and his wife just dont have the money they have but they have to take care of there children and teach then thing. so i agree with the lady that made the statement how can mitt wife tell me how i feel at the end of a hard day taking care of my children and keeping my house in tack, i didn’t have a maid or nanny it was just me and my husband to work and do our best to raise our children so she can’t relate to me.

  • bstockinger

    So according to Romney, Hillary Rosen’s remarks about his wife are correct. How stupid can he be.

  • Flip Flop anybody.

  • One major problem Mitt Romney doesn’t ever touch, nor FOX network. If there were jobs available more women and men could work. But as long as Republicans are in power the job rate will suffer.
    Republicans outsource American jobs to Communist China for cheap labor, so corporations can make a bigger profit. Oh, I’m sorry, Mitt Romney said, “corporations are people too.” Hmmm. At any rate I’d like to know how many Chinese have these jobs. I’d be pretty sure if they were given back to American people everyone would be employed and perhaps have second jobs if they wanted to. The Republicans first got in bed with the Communists with Richard Nixon’s visit and it has gone down hill every since. Why doesn’t FOX news talk about the Republicans love affair with Communists. China owns America because of Republicans.

    • just a thought . republicans like high unemployment ,since so many people are looking for work they can pay lower wages . when it is a tight labor market they have to pay more for less qualified people.

  • What he says is true. I pay 17% taxes while he pays 15% less his deductions. Always thought the people paying the most had the most say? What he says applies only to the rest of us, not him, so he can say anything.

  • Blade Catz

    Almost any woman who has children, whether she works outside of the home or not, is a working mother. I say almost because there are no absolutes. There are some wealthy moms who rely on nannies, housekeepers and other household help to raise their children while they do their “charity work” or spend their days shopping or at a spa. There are some welfare moms whose children raise themselves, with the oldest child often becoming the caregiver, while mommy is strung out on drugs or in a drunken stupor. However, the examples I mentioned are not the norm. The majority of women with children spend a lot of time and effort raising their offspring. Cooking, cleaning, doing laundry, caring for a child who is ill, these ordinary tasks are just a few of the things that mothers do and they still require physical energy and effort. They require work. Mitt Romney is terribly out of touch with the realities of everyday life if he thinks that mothers who are on welfare don’t work.

  • pippas

    Mrs. Romney did stay home and that is a lot of work ,but don’y you imagines s , so it can be done .he had a lot of servants?I worked and raised 5 children who are all professionals

  • EdC

    It’s just the arrogance of the Great REpublican Way, remember,Knet, poor kids should clean up the shitters for rich kids, Poor people, according to pugliKans need a work ethic, because rich are ENTITLED to being catered to. So now lets see you got a two year old, you have to work, he gets sent into a “child care units” probubly like the Arizona pay for prisoners, prisons, learns how to cope for himself, gets on the street where some rich guy who hasn’t got a clue has a house full of guns, because the republicans are in the pocket of the NRA, steals several guns, supplyes several of his buddies, and sells the rest to a cartel from Mexico, and then starts a junior Bonnie and Clyde missioon, Great Idea. Live better as Republican. stupidty at work.

  • As you can see from reading some of the comments the point of the Rommey world view has left the building. Any possibility of a rational discussion of so-called welfare has been replaced by distrust and fear of those unfortunate enough to have to depend the social safety net. The stereotype that the average welfare recipient is a black mother with several children is alive and well, however false on face value and a little racist in nature. The program allegedly gives poor mothers a financial incentive to avoid work and have babies. I can’t help but wonder what kind of easy street folks believe exists in such meager surroundings provided by those assistance checks and the Food Stamp Programs? Have they tried to maintain a household under such restraints?

    Blacks make up about 12% of the population and receive in round numbers 37% of AFDC payments. Somebody else is getting the majorityof the ‘welfare’ payments. Most are non-African Americans with children. The feminization of poverty is no accident in this country. America has the greatest level of child poverty anywhere in the industrial world. Instead of trying to address the real problem we as country continue to avoid and hide from the issue. It is in a word…Shameful. One factor that could relieve the number of mothers and children on welfare would be greater financial support from the fathers. The figures are fuzzy, but it appears that among the poor about 3/4 of the women who were awarded child support received payments of any kind, and only half received full payment.

    Where are the personal responsibility folks when it comes to shamming and forcing deadbeat dads to pay for their own children? Poor women are carrying the burden alone. There is no incentive to bear more children. AFDC families are not much larger than average American families. Nearly all studies have confirmed that welfare programs provides almost no extra incentive to have more children. The greatest problem with the ‘incentive’ theory is that welfare payments are too small to provide any meaningful incentive. They are barely enough to provide food and shelter.

    Perhaps someday we can expand the discussion to include the bloated corporate welfare that takes place in America. Tax havens, clever accounting tricks designed to avoid taxes, and questionable corporate subsidies are a far greater threat to our nations health and security than working or non-working moms.

  • It appears that hyprocracy looms large in the Romney household.

  • Drew_a

    The amount of those intentionally taking advantage of the system in this way is much smaller, and too a much smaller extent then people think. This is grandiose scapegoating, get the topic off of taxes and give an excuse nevermind if you close every single entitlement program the budget will still not be balanced. Sure is it wrong, I agree with you, to the extent advocated. But how big is this issue, is it controversy worthy? Or is it just another way to turn the topic away from Romney’s budget solutions will bankrupt the country at a far more alarming pace. At which time the rich would have already been informed to convert their money

  • Drew_a

    Welfare is horrible, real sustainable oppurtunities delivered is what we need. Ah, children are inconsequent?~? I feel wierd that this issue the super ultra leftist sides towards the right. But in the meantime if societal oppurtunities aren’t supporting people someone has to.

  • this jerk knows nothing of the real world life of ANYONE , let alone what a normal mother deals with on an hourly basis let him pontifacate on what he does know, RAPEING the american workers by buying , destroying, then selling off american companys, ending the livelyhoods of thousands..this is exactly the kind of trash we DO NOT NEED in the whitehouse, or ANYWHERE IN GOVERNMENT. he will lie, kill or do anything for power.

    • ObozoMustGo

      Exactly what does “eat the rich” mean? Can anyone answer that question, please?

  • noneedtocomment

    Im confused by all of this. I did eveything in my power to stay home with my children in 1990 when the rest of the world was working. I cut up my Nordstroms cards, drove old cars shopped with coupons. And was happy they were not raised in a daycare.
    Now I have a Christian telling me every mother should work. II have often felt the failure of average America Family unit , is because of the family structure we have come to. Not saying that many women can do everything and do it well. But im sure much easier when you have a 6 figure income.

  • btwom1

    i;m sure that while she was a stay at home mom she never had the pleasure of caring for those boys or cleanning the house, because the nanny did it all.

  • Poor Romney, he’s desperately trying to take advantage of this Rosen ex-abrupt. He thinks the public will easily mix all mothers together with beyond believe rich wives like Ann Romney. No, middle class and working class wives are struggling to support their children. They got to work and get back as soon as possible. This is the point Ann and Mitt Romney will never catch.

  • Jenneh Damm

    Romney said he gets his knowledge of women’s issues from his wife, and she says the biggest issue with women is the economy. Rosen’s point was a good one – Mrs. Romney has never held a job (a job involving a time card and daycare juggling, you know, economic struggle) so what does she know about women’s concerns about the economy? I’m sure we’re just entering the phase of his campaign – instead of answering questions and providing ideas, just flip everything around. The “I’m rubber, you’re glue” tactic.

  • How about stay at home dads who don’t even look for jobs because their wives work! Or mothers who have special needs children and need to stay home with them because they can’t get childcare at a reasonable price to go out and work at burger king. And who are then fired because they have to take children to hospital! Are they lazzy and nonproductive? Oh wait I forgot Rebulican health care plan If you get sick die quickly!