By Jason Sattler

Six Republicans Who Are Fleeing At Top Speed From The Ryan Budget

August 14, 2012 10:31 pm Category: Memo Pad, Politics 100 Comments A+ / A-

Politico sampled the views of Republican insiders and found their assessment of Mitt Romney’s choice of Paul Ryan as his running mate isn’t as positive as Fox News would like you to believe. Sure, Ryan is bringing out big crowds and bigger donors. But Romney’s choice has also shined a bright like on a very disturbing part of Paul Ryan’s record, which also happens to be the only thing he’s known for: The Ryan Budget.

“It’s going to elevate the campaign into a debate over big ideas. It means Romney-Ryan can run on principles and provide some real direction and vision for the Republican Party. And probably lose. Maybe big,” explained Mark McKinnon, a former senior adviser to George W. Bush.

As Jonathan Cohn of The New Republic describes Ryan’s radical vision of America: “Many millions of working-age Americans would lose health insurance. Senior citizens would anguish over whether to pay their rent or their medical bills, in a way they haven’t since the 1960s. Government would be so starved of resources that, by 2050, it wouldn’t have enough money for core functions like food inspections and highway maintenance. And the richest Americans would get a huge tax cut.”

That’s a pretty stark vision — and it doesn’t even include Ryan’s plan to turn Medicare into a voucher program requiring Americans 54 and younger to pay more for a program far less efficient that the existing program that seniors love. Even Mitt Romney can’t get his opinion of Ryan’s Medicare scheme straight, although his campaign basically copied the Ryan plan with less detail.

But nobody has to tell House Republicans in swing districts that Ryan’s budget is a loser. Several Republicans of them are already running from it at top speed.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_B6RROC4IUESHT322QS5VJVPYRM Lynda

    As we get closer to November that number will surely grow. The problem for these folks is that all the votes in the House came from Republicans. Their opponents should be using that fact over and over again until the ill informed voters finally get the message and the facts. This is going to be a very interesting couple of months. The Ryan pick is just days old and the rats are jumping ship already.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/MKPYOAYSY5GH2MGVZKJSFJ4M5M Jack

      Romney’s choosing Ryan proves there is a God in heaven who loves us all and will not abandon us in our hour of need. GObama!

      • joujou228

        With voter supppression, the GOP governors are trying to steal it. We have to be vigilant. I live in Florida and early voting has been reduced to one week instead of two, in 2008, Charlie Crist who was governor at the time hd to extend hours eventhough we had two weeks it still was not enough, now with just one week for no reason, I’m getting some people to vote by mail to combat the cut in hours.

        • Dianes4babies

          Getting people to vote by mail is a great idea, a great alternative! I, too, live in Florida and I went on line to the board of elections for Volusia Co., requested an absentee ballot for the primary and general elections, received the primary one so far, and no request for ID….just my signature! I do not know why more people aren’t talking about this way of doing it!

          • http://www.facebook.com/dominick.vila.1 Dominick Vila

            I, too, live in Florida and I was appalled by the low turnout yesterday. Hopefully Democrats will wake up between now and November because a low turnout may prove to be worse than anything the GOP says or does during the Fall campaign.

          • joujou228

            glad to meet a fellow floridian. I think most people aren’t using vote by mail because they’re afraid that their vote won’t count. It all comes down to education. I Volusia Co., a democratic or republican county? if the latter, voting by mail may not be a good idea.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nathaniel-Crosby/100002543132542 Nathaniel Crosby

          Think of all the members of the military who were not allowed to have their absentee ballot counted in at least the last two presidential elections (in Florida). (10-16,000 ballots for just one presidential election).

    • TheSkalawag929

      “Their opponents should be using that fact over and over again until the ill informed voters finally get the message and the facts.”

      The only problem Lynda is that the “ill informed voters” that voted for these guys are immune to facts. To them facts and truth are merely an inconvenience that is to be ignored on their way to destroying what they perceive as the nanny state. That is until the shoe is on the other foot and they need help. Then it’s ok.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dominick.vila.1 Dominick Vila

    The Ryan budget is only part of it, don’t forget Mitt Romney’s tax plan which is just as bad. A tax plan that would result in the elimination of the mortgage deduction, Pell Grants and other programs that benefit the middle class ought to be enough to make Mitt and Paul permanent members of the unemployed.

    • munchtrainer

      4 sure this is so true

    • CAThinker

      When my republican friends start frothing at the mouth about their 20% cut in the tax rate I remind them that saving $3,000 in taxes doesn’t do any good when you end up adding in an extra $24,000 in taxable income because the Talipublicans took away your mortgage interest deduction. Where’s our friendly neighborhood economist that can tell us what the impact of eliminating that deduction would be? It would be pointless to own a house, so you wouldn’t need to build them – there goes the construction industry… And what would the bankers do if they couldn’t screw anyone on their mortgages?

      • http://www.facebook.com/dominick.vila.1 Dominick Vila

        You are right, and in addition to the impact the elimination of the mortgage and college expenses deductions would have on our pocketbooks, the former would destroy the real estate business since there would be no incentive to buy a house. I guess the plan is for us, mere mortals, to rent from wealthy landlords and shop at the company store. I don’t have a problem with people proposing alternatives on how to solve our problems, in fact, I believe we should encourage people to offer other ideas, the problem is that instead of tweaking the system to solve the problems we are having the GOP goes for the jugular and proposes changes that, for some strange reason, only impact the middle class and the poor. Darned, if they ever come up with a plan that involves the rich paying for something I’ll probably have a cardiac arrest.

        • wyl5326

          There you go again with distortion from Barack’s quick response team when they try to avoid the raging Muslim protest around the world that put Barack’s vaunted Foreign policy strength into question ! Remember HOPE and CHANGE have now turned into sour HOPium ! Drink it quick and see if it can help you come out with better relevant postings !

      • wyl5326

        You are swallowing Barack’s quick response lying team when the details were deliberately withheld until the debate because Mitt’s team knows of the distorting capabilities of Barack’s team as well as the tendency to copy ideas ! Remember how they copied Romenycare ?

    • Gammaanya

      Not just that, it will eliminate more deductions and cut even more – free school lunches for 280K American children, they want them to pay for it at reduced price. Just Imagine a man who’s mother used to be and is on SS until he inherited/made money made ON TAXPAYERS MONEY????? Under R/R Medicare plan and CBO analysis – Grandma and Grandpa will pay extra $1,200-2,400.00 a year. Don’t plan to retire at 65, you must keep on working till 67 and if you die earlier and they keep half of your money.
      By the way MEDICARE IS NOT BANKRUPT as they Rep. keep telling you. ACA will save money and eliminate some of the fraud by Corp. and doctors. TRUST me.

      • http://www.facebook.com/bobwms Robert A. Williams

        Trust you? Medicare’s hospital insurance trust fund will become insolvent in 2024, five years sooner than previously estimated, largely due to the sluggish economy, the Social Security and Medicare Trustees report.

        You know more than the fund administrators? SPARE me.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_B6RROC4IUESHT322QS5VJVPYRM Lynda

          You need to do a little research. The Medicare trustees have clearly stated that the Medicare Mospital Insurance trust fund will remain solvent–that is–able to pay 100% of the costs of hospital insurance coverage that Medicare provides through 2024. At that point payroll revenues and other revenue depostied in that trust fund will be still be able to pay 87% of Medicare hospital insurance cost. Over the next 75 years, revenue will cover an average of 74% of those costs. Yes indeed something has to be done, but it is disingenious to suggest the sky is falling. Those numbers I’ve provided show what happens if nothing is done. Congress, in the past, has always done what was necessary to address problems. Perhaps if the Amerian people wise up and push Congress they will do so again.

          The shortfall will be closed by provision of additional revenue, program changes that slow the growth of costs. The cost issue is something both parties have avoided dealing with, but that will certainly change. The bankruptcy canard is not helpful. The truth is Medicare hospital insurance will not run out of financial resources and cease to operate after 2024. It is bull being pushed by those wishing to obfuscate the issues. Are you aware that the trustees use the term ‘isolvent’ to mean any time less 100% of funding is raised? Insolvency does not mean broke or the inability to provide coverage. Keep in real.

          • 4Irishthunder4

            That is great, as long as we can pay for a 87% of our bill everything will be just great. I have to run so I can call my mortgage company and let them know I am only pay 87% from now on.

        • Gammaanya

          It’s BS – and you know it. These trustees are Faux News. It will be if R/R have their way with it. It will be gone before the 55 + get to the 67 and retire. Show me/us the PRINT- or link. I work numbers for the past 30 yrs+, yes, I am bean counter and damn good one.
          SS is the most sure thing – cash cow- golden egg goose, and that’s why Repukes wanted to get their hands on it and PRIVATIZE IT. Just imagine the Wall Street eagles playing with this cash cow. A steady flow of cash just for the picking.. And YES Medicare, SS, ACA, Publ. Ed are Socialistic Programs and Repukes HATE IT. They don’t want to contribute to anything for anybody unless it’s for them only. Did you see the new tax that is going to hit the middle class and not the rich. Check it out. If R/R will take over then the Middle class lower level and the very poor will become even poorer, get to pay more taxes and no deducution for anything.SS will also increase for anybody who contributes. They don’t have to worry because they DON’T contribute to SS. It’s in the works and already Voted in the House and it passed. I guess you only hear what you want to hear. You might be still paying for your $$300/$600.00 Bush rebate (for what??) or stimulus, because Bush/Cheney did not pay for it either (I did not hear a peep out of Repukes on that one)but put it on the books and Obama Adm. must carry the debt just like the wars and tax cuts for the job cremators . Stimulus is a dirty word for Rep. but they put their hands out once it was approved. They can come back to their lemmings and say – see I got for you and will spread the money to his rich buddies, you get nothing but the bill to pay.
          That’s trickle down economy by Republican’s – it doesn’t work, never did and never will.

          “Be the change you want to see” – Gandhi.

          • deebell1976

            If you privatize it,the only ones that should be able to “fet their hands on it” should be the taxpayer who paid in.
            The government shouldnt be involved in SS at all.
            Romney is a business man.So love him or hate him,he’ll do a much better job running the country.Obama can’t run on his record because it blows.

          • Steven Ketza

            I think Romney is a business puppet that is simply trying to get in office to help all his rich buddies get back to business as usual.

            That aside, if you really like Romney, then I would suggest waiting till the debates and see what Romney can offer.

            I personally think, hes has nothing to offer in the ways of fixing the economic problems in the US. Ill even go as far as betting IF he were elected after one or two briefings as the President-Elect which will probably age him another 20 years, he might have no choice but to keep some of those crazy obama ideas around.

          • wyl5326

            If that is true, who is the master puppeteer ? Unfortunately for you, you are no businessman and don’t know that businessmen’s action is motivated by desire for profit and not based on puppeteer ! I do agree that let us wait for debates to come and see who got better ideas to move our country forward. Mitt have track records as businessman and Governor who reverse MA financial budget deficit and also reverse the educational school performance from among the lagging in the country to bolt to the top and that school legacy was sustained to this day ! Then he rescued the Olympic that was over-budget and delayed to come up holding successful Olympic with profit too ! Compare that to Barack’s organizing experience that only helps his own experience for political aspiration !

          • wyl5326

            If you are such a good bean counter, tell Barack that SSS is going to Bankrupt before the next generation can retire and you want to do nothing now ? Medicare is even going to get bankrupt sooner ! Show me how good of a bean counter you are, because I have a mean smart calculator ! Can you make HOPE and CHANGE become a HOPium ? That is the issue today and you should demand from Barack to redeemed his promise to cut debt by 50% before his first term end but now instead wanted to get contract extension that you may want to give to him but I say FIRE him NOW !

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/R7OGRPFVCWHDX4HUGZNQWGXG7I william

          Have them replace what was stolen by 12 yrs of Republican administrations. If they are so great,why are we in this mess
          that Obama inherited.

          • wyl5326

            Don’t you know that others inherited mess also but never complain about inherited mess except puny-brain Barack ! Don’t you know that Barack promised us HOPE and CHANGE in ’08 when the mess was already there ? Now, where is his promise and now you want me for excuse Barack’s absentee leadership style ? I say FIRE him NOW just like how he told Hosni then and no more excuses !

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/WGXQFMJKAXEH6IAE7FGTI5T4JQ Basfrommobay

            Other Presidents did not complain because they did not have to deal with a Congress that had many members who openly and often stated that their main job is to ensure that Barack Obama was a one term President. I do agree that the President squandered the first two years of his Presidency by trying to be Mr Hope and Change. Real leaders lead, not accommodate.

          • wyl5326

            Don’t you know Congress was composed of House and Senate ? Senate have only passed 1 budget under Barack’s reign ! Who controls the Senate ? Don’t you know that is was the Dems who are with Barack and you don’t blame them ! What an easy buck passing HOPE and CHANGE guy you must be who can’t see reality ! Funny thing was, last Budget bill voted by Senate was totally rejected by them without even a single Democratic support ! Who should you blame for that and why don’t you complain about that ?

          • wyl5326

            Was so amused with your last sentence to agree with you, but Barack is leading from behind as he did in Libya ! Don’t you know that ? Perhaps you should tell him to lead from the front so that you can follow him ! Unfortunately for you HOPium addicts, Barack will never change and so I cast my vote to FIRE him next month !

      • wyl5326

        You are swallowing Barack’s quick response lies when you don’t even know details yet ! Wait until debates for the protagonists to attack each other’s plans ! Remember HOPE and CHANGE in ’08 ? What happened to it now, have it become HOPium of entitlement and culture of mendicancy ? Barack can’t even afford toe whisper that slogan and instead would like to have a contract renewal ! I say FIRE him as Donald would love to do !

      • wyl5326

        Medicare is not bankrupt now but will be bankrupt in 2024 if not fixed NOW ! Do you want to wait until your house is burned down before calling Fire Department ?

    • wyl5326

      It may take more years – means Barack he is backing down with making firm commitments he can’t fulfill because he has no idea on how to create Jobs and fix economy !

      I’m going to tell you the Truth – because Barack have been caught failing on his own past promises but wants a contract extension anyway with no more accountability for him to comply and rule by Executive orders and would even risk Constitutional crisis like Bill’s impeachment !

      Criticizing Mitt for having no economic plan, because Barack finds it easier to copy Mitt’s idea and used it for his own purpose like how he shamelessly copied Romneycare !

      Barack’s Fair share talk is his idea to fix economy as he have no other idea on how fix it with his own idea beyond raising taxes to pay for more expenditures he favored !

    • wyl5326

      There goes Barack’s quick distortion response team when Mitt have not yet detailed Tax plan because Barack will just distort it or copy it ! Wait for debate where Mitt will demolished Barack’s own plan if he had, because Mitt’s plan will be much more superior !

    • wyl5326

      You are just too drunk with HOPE and CHANGE to wildly imagine what is in Mitt’s Tax Plan. Wait until the debate before you can criticize what he puts out !

  • http://www.facebook.com/dominick.vila.1 Dominick Vila

    In all fairness, the Ryan pick achieved something that may temporarily help Mitt Romney: it diverted attention from Mitt’s tax returns, overseas tax shelter and his tax plan. I suspect he is now counting on the convention to make Americans forget his character lapses.

    • munchtrainer

      this also

    • Joseph Hemphill

      that was until today when the real pant’s of the family restated again that you people have seen all you are going to see.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/O3WEXULTDRKCEIVDCFIPKYHAMQ seche

    no matter what these people say they are still republicans and will VOTE republican once they have gotten into office.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VTV55S5BALQIDBQFOLH7WIZNSA Don B

    I guess all these millionaires and billionaires don’t use the same roads and public services the rest of us do…….or their companies……..I wonder which planet they live on—It must be a nice place to visit…….

  • Teddy Parker

    What a fantastic selection by Romney. I have already secured my hotel room in D.C. on January 20th for the inauguration of President Barack Obama!

    • munchtrainer

      i will do the same

    • wyl5326

      GOOD for you to witness the FIRING of Barack then !

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joan-Maurer/100000910841619 Joan Maurer

    I find it distasteful that the Ryan/Romney group has told GOP Congressman to get your mother to vouch for you. They are advising Congressman to make commercials with their mothers saying they are a “good boy who would never hurt Medicare programs.” Really!

    • TheSkalawag929

      As distasteful as it may be it works. The republicans have proven time and time again that distasteful is not enough to deter them from using a tactic as long as there is a possibility of winning with it.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7U2GHJLXCE4MSCI7K3RF3DET4E Esther

    Romney’s pick of Ryan is bringing them big money from the really rich because they don’t want Obama to make them pay their fare share of taxes. Too bad that most of the really rich are Republicans.
    Farmwife

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NL7GJMSNN5W2CT5HCB7DFGGO7U Freddie Nerk

      Theres plenty of billionaires who are Democrats but they won’t come out like Buffett.

    • LKLSPEEDY

      look how much bo donates to charity, and polosi,reed,barney,dodds,under 1000.oo romney over 1,000.000 you 0000.00 now get a job because bo wont be there to give you your freebys

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5N3BXLIARNX3GXFVPCTXPJ46FE LindaP

        Does it bother you that many of America’s poor are SENIOR CITIZENS, they live in NURSING HOMES, and these bills are paid by MEDICAID…which Republicans will eviscerate? Does it bother you that when this happens, nursing home doors will fly open across the country and low-income seniors will be tossed out of them like rags to fend for themselves? Does this bother you at all.

        No. Thought not. A Rethuglican would never let anything as unimportant as kicking poor seniors out of his way as he walks down the street get stuck in his craw.

        • LKLSPEEDY

          dont you listen to anything anything but abc,cbs,cmbc, ryans plan DOSENT effect anyone over 55 years old, but obama took over 700 BILLION from medicare. doesnt that bother you. only to GIVE free insurance to lazy people [who have money] but prefer not to buy.how long can medicare , and medicade last without doing nothing, ryans plan ,you can still get medicare if you want, if not take money that gov. will give to buy what you want. are you to liberally stuck on this president that your ears are full off polosies lies,we must pass law to see what is in it, wake up, you love that kind of .i am retired, i am on fixed income, why dont i hear from you liberals that TEACHERS UNIONS are taking my home NO NO that is ok. my taxes go up every year, i will so lose my home for taxes, but you listen to this LYING president. i feel sorry for you,

  • nhpoet

    It is inevitable that the Romney-Ryan ticket will earn the same result as the presidential elections of 1932 and 1964.

  • highpckts

    Yeah, sure all these guys “say” they are against the plan, but get them into office and they will switch just like that!! I don’t trust any of them!

  • TheOldNorthChurch

    You should not trust any of these candidates nor their opponents, they are good examples of the elites in the “Political Class”.

    They are not interested in preserving this country over their own ambitions. Even if you do not agree with the Ryan Budget – any informed citizen knows that to do exactly as we have been doing for the last twelve years spells disaster. Ryan, Simpson-Bowles, Back-to-Black, all suggest legitimate straight forward ways to solve the American Crises. Instead, we have a Political Class who wants the American public to do as they are doing, put their heads in their sand.

    The real answer lies in between these three plans or as a combination of these. That is what compromise is all about. But instead we get to experience all the talking points that are meaningless.

    I bet if you brought a multi-partisan group of skilled citizens together we would solve this problem more effectively then what we are experiencing today. But there in lies the problem; The President is suppose to lead by representing all Americans, Congress is suppose to lead by representing the core of America, the Senate is suppose to lead by representing the Sovereignty of the States. Instead we have a majority of them all representing their own self-interest.

    • LKLSPEEDY

      if you watch other news channels other than msnbc you would hear you king say it is my way or none. you didnt know we had a rep. congress when clinton second term got better, because he was willing to talk. but when your community organizer talks only to say rep. dont want to compermise. you liberals better wake up.you talk about taxes romney only has to BY LAW show 2 years taxes. but your lazy mormin reed cant even hold his head up[or to ashamed to] where is bo real birth certificate, and school papers. get out of la la land andwake up

  • Gammaanya

    Have you thought that voting by mail it might not get there at all??? It may end up in a trash can or better yet – shredder – easy to get rid of. “THOSE WHO CAST THE VOTES DECIDE NOTHING. THOSE WHO COUNT VOTES DECIDE EVERYTHING” – Jospeh Stalin. Florida gave us Bush Remember?? Florida, Ohio and Iowa will give us R/R. I predicted that RobmeofMOney will pick Ryan the Lion. The south always vote against themselves and the northern states have to carry them. Hmm, some are jumping off the ship?? Yes, they are up for a VOTE to stay in power, but they ALREADY VOTED FOR IT against ACA and everything that Obama tried to do. Now they are biting the hand that feed them all these years??? They jumping the ship first now, while before they all for – to sink the ship to get rid of the captain???
    I am waiting for some new Info on taxes, but looking at R/R tax cuts, from the figures given by TPC ,I hate to say it -the top getting the best deal. Chicago Tribune printed excellent breakdown on taxes -. R/R wants to keep Bush tax cuts enacted and it will add $4.5 T in cuts over the next decade. They wanted to replace the current 6 tax rates to just 2 (it will change to 5 for 2012 in you will see increase in your taxes) – 10% and 25%. Their plan also eliminates the alternative minimum tax and cut Corp. taxes R/R plan would repeal tax breaks for low income families with children and any changes that Obama put in place in 2009. TPC said that this repeal will hurt the low,low income people, some will see tax increase. That’t what gets me- per TPC analysis – the family that earns 10K-20K about 1 in 5 would have a tax increase of $1K while earners of 1M or more will have 40% of the benefits cuts that gives the extra $265K. Ryan did not challenged these figures. These cuts would cut revenue to about 15.5% of the economy, if you know something about economy, even basic accounting YOU know what that means???Both oppose raising capital gain tax – they wanted to eliminate, also to eliminate taxes on interest and dividends. R/R live of interest and dividends that would give them a nice chunk of money not a pocket change. If you want to KEEP the RICH in money and work for 2 families on 1 income vote for R/R. Obama will survive he will enjoy all the breaks that R/R give him. He is one of the 1% but I think he cares about HIS COUNTRY and it’s people otherwise he would not put all ACA and other laws in place. He is doing pretty good job considering what he inherited going balance forward from B/C – it’s not blaming B/C – it’s a FACT. Facts can not be denied. – Marx.
    Ryan Ignorance is disguised as piety concerning contraceptive, abortion (I am prolife no matter what), “Reason is not automatic. Those who deny it cannot be conquered by it” Ayn Rand.
    Imagine if Obama would said that Ayn Rand was his idol and he drew his ideas from her. He would be lynched on Time Square. LOL Enough od harpin about Jeremiah Wright to make you puke. Just IMAGINE. ALL Repukes and thei lemmings, Teabaggers would be foaming at the mouth and some would die from a heartattacks.
    ‘Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives” – John Stuart Mill (1806-1873 English Economist and philosopher.
    “The trouble with the world is that the STUPID are COCKSURE and the INTELLIGENT are FULL OF DOUBT.- Bertrand RusselL
    Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity” ML King
    If you wanted to be more POOR vote R/R they need your money to live lavish lifestyle and eat caviar and you will be eating beans and M/C. Sorry for some typo’s using foreign keyborad and typing to fast?? Syntax LOL

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Z3Y5JBWFPPJAPEIUAHRIE6U57Q Ronnie L

    What I truly do not understand is how can anyone vote for these clowns and ostensibly what policies they represent? Palin, Bachman, Limbaugh, Hannity, Bush, Cheney, and Rowe-these are darlings of this party. How in the hell can you vote for them?

    • LKLSPEEDY

      how stupid can YOU be voting for king bo

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NL7GJMSNN5W2CT5HCB7DFGGO7U Freddie Nerk

    Republicans are running scared. We are almost into September and yet Obama still leads in the polls and more importantly in the swing states. And he has yet to really get out and campaign hard-wait until he does in the debates! Romney doesn’t have a clue what his position is on anything-other than low taxes for himself. This tax cheating, draft dodger, cult leader, job killing elitist is unfit to be President.

    • CAThinker

      Can’t wait for the debates – Obama is used to being questioned under fire and providing coherent answers, as if he’s answering a student’s question and that he cares that the student understands. Every time you see Romney answer a question he’s so full of vagaries you can’t tell what he’s saying… or he gives you an answer to a different question a la’ Palin (Ahmadinejad seemed to be her answer to everything, as if she learned a new word). In fact all of the Talipublicans get that way. I was watching MSNBC this morning and the RNC Chairman did the jig when he was asked what the difference was between the Romney budget and the Ryan budget… His answer: Obama doesn’t have a budget plan… Geez…

      • LKLSPEEDY

        oh only msnbc. no wonder your good at name calling

    • LKLSPEEDY

      maybe if you got a job you wouldnt need welfare, but that is beyond you, you idiot,even your polosi and reed have money abroad. wake up, with bo next we will pay to breath, but that is ok. why dont you spew off about these states and unions thet got waviors for health care. oh thats ok they are name callers like you. get off mommys aprion strings and grow up. befare our country is like china and your king

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XWNK5E33OIFUMQVAGQQA7GDM2M Bigspender

    Even some republicans are pragmatic and not entirely stupid. They all know how bad Ryan’s plan is for the country. The question is whether they’ll reject pressure from GOP leadership and show some initiative of their own.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PDVYMJVUQKZDEROYACTQHRVLWI kwasig

    This is jungle budget and American should think and think deeply and these 2 gentlemen can doom this country,don’t make no mistake that both have zero foreign experience. Romney and Ryan

    • LKLSPEEDY

      and your man will disarm us, you were probably drunt on bo words to hear him tell putin wait tll after election, i will have more leverage. you wont hear that from you free loaders.your president in cohuts with russia. hope you are next to him when iran and china cometogether with russia

      • Mohd Jailani Jalil

        Did you know that your testicles has two spheres, left and right just like the brain and unfortunately all your rebuttals make me to really believe that both your left and right brain are situated in both your testicles and to to top it all your mouth is just behind your testicles.

        I am from Asia and follows your politics and am very afraid that another Republican president in power will create more wars in this world. All the wars are created by Republican Presidents which only at the end will mess up not only American economy but also affect the rest of the world.

        Your huge debts had been created by a stupid Republican President with his unjustifed wars in both Iraq and Aghanistan. Not forgetting the murders of innocent women and children in both countries and sending inocent American sons to their death too. I am surprise that there are so many bigots in the Republican crowd that still tow along the line of religion and racism.

        Your debts to China if not service and when China demand it dues, Romney will have to sell Massachussettes to them.

        Americans should vote Romney and Ryan and can learn from them on how to evade paying taxes and how to dodge the draft.

        • LKLSPEEDY

          glad people like you live in asia,bet we wouldnt let you in. dont try your bigotry here if you fought your own wars we wouldnt be there. but you rather kill people who dont agree with you. you are a name caller just like dem.keep your comments in asia and you will be better off

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_V2GZMDSV3PM34RT72YSHCJ7WMM Chiron8839

    I enjoy the content of the National Memo, but your copy editing has become pathetic recently, not just occasionally, but all the time:

    “But Romney’s choice has also shined a bright like on a very disturbing part of Paul Ryan’s record”

    A bright “like”? Really . . . .

    I frequently circulate National Memo pieces online, because they typically dispel a lot of disinformation in few words. But I hesitate to do that with chronically defective copy. If you want further proof of that, peruse the current piece on Medicare.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5PYLGL23N545I3A25FLLFWEIKM sugarbritches

    Thank God someone has good sense. The thing that is so sad about this ordeal of an election is that foolish things coming out of the mouths of the political contenders are not being challenged. It is ironic to think that here comes a new-comer like Paul Ryan, identifying himself with Ayd Rand(?) and other atheist, feels that too much money is being spent on seniors (as he so vehemently expressed earlier this year) vows to cut Ssocial Security and Medicare for seniors and others who have paid into the program and no one says a word!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5PYLGL23N545I3A25FLLFWEIKM sugarbritches

    No one is talking about the cars and expenses that the politicians are spending on cars and living expenses. The idea of Chris Christy speaking at the convention is the only thing positive coming from the Republican Party. Thank God for the people who are distancing themselves from this Paul Ryan initiative. They are not even putting sensitive thoughts on the table.

    We have got these youthful politicians coming forth to cut state budgets, medicare, medicaid, hospital and education services, yet they claim to commit to the future endeavors of our young people! But how can this be possible WHEN THEY CUT SERVICES TO TEACHING HOSPITALS THAT TRAIN DOCTORS FOR THE FUTURE? How can they stand before Floridians, with a straight face, as they vow to challenge medical treatment for the elderly?

    • LKLSPEEDY

      boy are spewing,sound like YOUR president, or king your britches probably are sugar.dont get wet

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TAYIE2D527VIS4LRPYYTZBK3LY mark

    I’m voting The Republican Ticket all the way, lower taxes for the rich, cuts in medicare,no abortion rights for women,privatize social security, Then I awake, what a nightmare I just had

  • KAlison

    Rhinos

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003323311977 Faye Ward

    looks like old Gomer Pyle

  • ridemybroom

    let me see here now….ones a theif and ones a atheist….the theif hasnt paid taxes on his blind trust in 10 yrs cause he doesnt know how much is in there…and his wife came out today and admitted as much…this is why he wont reveal his taxes…the other, the atheist, he used to be catholic and turned away from that faith and went the faith of the atheistism since romney picked him to be vp he has since recanted his atheistism….this is what i call

    A N T T – C H R I S T

    Fits them to a tee

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SVTG6WJ42JU366Z2YZMDJ65USU Jesse Delgado

    Can you imagine, Ryan…make all them Reppy’s head for the hills!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/E2YVM4VORI43LJFSFQMQ7ZSVHM Alpha Farce

    SCOTT BROWN? WOW !THAT IS NEWS!

  • ayayaboy

    Romney just release your 12 years taxes as your father said. Don’t fool yourself and think that you are fooling Americans. Why pay around 13% when ordinary folks pay about 35%? Are you kidding me? Release 12 years taxes or more. Don’t fix your tax papers behind the scene because you will be discovered. IRS needs to open an investigation on Romney and other Millionnaires.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/YJWGNXF6VYTEINLX5LW2HCZLTU markofgeorgia

    What I would love to see is a change in the SS system that works for everybody. I would ask Congress To vote on a bill to extend the SS tax for all pay . furthermore I would take out the same way for Medicare. This way we would get top rated medical care and SS would never go under.

    • LKLSPEEDY

      both partys stole money from social security and medica care. FOR HAND OUT to everyone else.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/R7OGRPFVCWHDX4HUGZNQWGXG7I william

    Romney should open up his secret life and his taxes. The mormon LLC,holds more money
    than the pope,and get a tax reduction. We do not want a King. If it were so we would ask the queen
    to take us back.

    • LKLSPEEDY

      get serious kerry has double money than romney, oh sorry he is a dem. dont talk about liberals. dont take his or polosi or reeds money.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/N4PU4NDIAIUCQ5IODCCELLTEEA Husband Jack

    The following comments from Messrs Vila and Gammaanya have a lot of truth in them.

    Thank you gentlemen.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5IGXAN6JJRJENIBVHMDNMH6H7E david

    Remember, a vote for Romney is the same as saying you want your taxes to be raised close to or more than $2K a year. After all that’s his plan and it’s a bit short on details so in reality the tax hike could even be more. His answer to our economic problems is to raise the taxes on everyone that is making less than $350K a year, and then at the same time he’s going to give the wealthy (making more than $350K a year) a tax break – at the American taxpayer’s expense. I guess when you listen to the GOP and the party of “No New Taxes” it only applies to the wealthy members of the party. Everyone else is used for their votes and then discarded out in the cold.

    Remember this is coming from the same party that in December 2010 Senator Mitch McConnell’s said the following: “Our top political priority (for the GOP) over the next two (2) years should be to deny President Obama a second term.”

    So instead of working together and trying to get this country in a better place the GOP is willing to do everything they can even going to the point of making it fail just to hurt our President and his policies. I don’t know about you but if the shoe was on the other foot you would see a lot of people calling this individual and those following him as being an act of sedition. Very UN-American.

    Think about it…

    • praisethelards

      Yes… people like Mitch McConnell hate everything Obama stands for much more than they love their country. The sad part is that so many Americans can be convinced into voting against their interest…

      • wyl5326

        It may take more years – means Barack he is backing down with making firm commitments he can’t fulfill because he has no idea on how to create Jobs and fix economy !

        I’m going to tell you the Truth – because Barack have been caught failing on his own past promises but wants a contract extension anyway with no more accountability for him to comply and rule by Executive orders and would even risk Constitutional crisis like Bill’s impeachment !

        Criticizing Mitt for having no economic plan, because Barack finds it easier to copy Mitt’s idea and used it for his own purpose like how he shamelessly copied Romneycare !

        Barack’s Fair share talk is his idea to fix economy as he have no other idea on how fix it with his own idea beyond raising taxes to pay for more expenditures he favored !

    • LKLSPEEDY

      mitch mcconnell comment was about the spending obama is doing, dont take out of context like other liberals. my health care went up 138.00 dollars amonth, i pay my own.
      now a healthy kid of 20 or 21 can let his parents pay for his sitting. dont you think his parents premium went up. do you think health care wont cost someone. just to give it to young people who refuse to buy, would rather buy a fancy car, probably while living at home. for the first 2 year obama did not pass a budget, he was in control of all gov.
      harry reed wouldnt even bring obamas butget up for a vote one budget was 00 votes even with his own party. the president even said in one statement a year ago, it is my way or no way. dont only talk like a liberal, THINK. nothing is better for 3 years now, and i voted for obama, fool me once shame on you, FOOL ME TWICE SHAME ON ME.

    • wyl5326

      It may take more years – means Barack he is backing down with making firm commitments he can’t fulfill because he has no idea on how to create Jobs and fix economy !

      I’m going to tell you the Truth – because Barack have been caught failing on his own past promises but wants a contract extension anyway with no more accountability for him to comply and rule by Executive orders and would even risk Constitutional crisis like Bill’s impeachment !

      Criticizing Mitt for having no economic plan, because Barack finds it easier to copy Mitt’s idea and used it for his own purpose like how he shamelessly copied Romneycare !

      Barack’s Fair share talk is his idea to fix economy as he have no other idea on how fix it with his own idea beyond raising taxes to pay for more expenditures he favored !

  • http://www.facebook.com/ScottCameron1950 Scott Cameron

    Well, I guess America is hell bent on joining the majority of the world population as the middle class is disappearing and the money in America is going overseas. The Asian economy is doing great as in the brave new world of a global economy, companies are no longer beholden to any flag. When I hear about how high our corporate tax rate is I just laugh, as they forget to mention all the tax loopholes that allow companies like Westinghouse to not pay a dime in taxes last year. That’s the norm and the truth folks as Mrs. Helmsley said many years ago, “The rich don’t pay taxes”. There is so much truth in that. Consider the fact that .5% of the US population controls 98% of the money in America and I see a senerio of an impending backlash, circa 1860 America. For the few of you that know your history, that was the beginning of the American Civil War. When both sides quit talking and compromising the end of America as we know it is near.

    • wyl5326

      It may take more years – means Barack he is backing down with making firm commitments he can’t fulfill because he has no idea on how to create Jobs and fix economy !

      I’m going to tell you the Truth – because Barack have been caught failing on his own past promises but wants a contract extension anyway with no more accountability for him to comply and rule by Executive orders and would even risk Constitutional crisis like Bill’s impeachment !

      Criticizing Mitt for having no economic plan, because Barack finds it easier to copy Mitt’s idea and used it for his own purpose like how he shamelessly copied Romneycare !

      Barack’s Fair share talk is his idea to fix economy as he have no other idea on how fix it with his own idea beyond raising taxes to pay for more expenditures he favored !

      • f4xtrafn

        Romneycare was Mitts biggest and most successful achievemnt. Unfortunately, he abandoned the one good idea he had in exchange for the support of the far right extremists in the Replican party. He sold his soul (not sure if Mormans have souls since they apparantly believe they get transported to their own private planet after death – or is that the Scientologists?) for power on earth.
        Obama may not be perfect, but the Romney/Ryan dog and donkey show may very well bury the economy and get us into a trillion dollar war or two.

        • wyl5326

          Barack is definitely not perfect person, but he is the most outstanding smoke and mirror showman in US politics and is trying to fools us again with HOPE and CHANGE 2.0 otherwise known as HOPium too ! Unfortunately for you, your dogged loyalty to Barack have blind-sided your puny brain when the Muslims around the world have been attacking US interests and Barack does nothing but just buy puny TV ads in Pakistan and not giving out strong defense for our way of life and culture that is opposite of what they have !

  • http://www.facebook.com/reedpappy Ken Reed

    Paul Ryan is the greatest intellect since Sarah Palin.

    • CAThinker

      Nice!!!

      • wyl5326

        There is nothing nice to Ken’s posting because he is of puny brain like Barack’s size ! HOPE and CHANGE is now turn into HOPium of entitlement and culture of mendicancy !

    • LKLSPEEDY

      nice keep name calling, makes youlook as smart as you president, nothing to say so just call names

    • f4xtrafn

      But he can’t see Russia from his house.

      • wyl5326

        When the fruit of a tree is sweet, it attracts lots of bees and insects. So your attack on Paul is testament to his effectiveness and you are just so afraid that Barack’s intellect have been tested to the limit by Paul and effectively rebutted ! Keep on attacking Paul and see how it will overturn Barack’ HOPE and CHANGE express become mired on his Muslim Appeasement and Apology !

        • Canuhearmenow55

          So if your own “friends” and “associates” start turning their backs on you then you attack the person who has NOTHING to do with their attacks because you feel threatened??? You comment makes no sense! What’s so sweet about these Repubs not “hanging” in their with their Repub Buddy! They are running away from what he wants for America! Who DO YOU agree with??? What does President Obama has to do with this story!!!

          • wyl5326

            You got it wrong. just trying to tell you that Paul was effective and that draws attack fro HOPE and CHANGE crowds who felt his effectiveness is making Barack vulnerable ! It has nothing to do with turning back on Old friends !

    • wyl5326

      If you think Palin was great, then you are a moron indeed ! But Paul is even superior to Barack and shut down Barack during budget summit in WH where Barack has control of microphone and hang on to it to deny chance for Paul to rebut him again to embarrassment ! Unfortunately for you who are addicted to HOPium, you still cling to HOPE and CHANGE and see how economy and Job creation are doing now !

  • StopTheWars535

    There may be 6 who are fleeing Ryan, but there are millions fleeing Obama and his radical socialistic policy. On November 7 the headlines will be, “Romney wins in a landslide as millions fled Obama.

  • 4Irishthunder4

    Speaking of killing real estate, did you hear that in 2013 there will be a 3.8 % tax on home sales. That should do wonder for the housing market. Funny how obumo waits til after election. i’m sure the middle class won’t be hurt at all from this!!!!!

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