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Sunday, October 23, 2016

Comprehensive immigration reform was the one policy suggestion that came out of the so-called GOP autopsy. The party’s big donors and top strategists like Karl Rove know that some grand gesture that stops the slide Republican presidential nominees have suffered since 2004 is necessary.

However, House Republicans don’t share that urgency.

“All of this high-minded stuff — that Republicans need to get the immigration issue off the table if they want to win and hold a Senate majority or win the White House — matters little to many GOP House lawmakers who sit in very white, very conservative congressional districts and who have much more to fear from a conservative primary challenger than from a Democrat,” explains Charlie Cook.

So rather than having any hope of passing the huge bill that got through the Senate with a more than two-thirds majority, Republicans will be stuck with crumbs of reform and lots of reasons for anti-immigration Republicans to keep talking.

The Washington Examiner‘s Conn Carroll believes that anti-immigrant ranting only hurts the cause of reform:

The same activist Spanish-language media that is beating up Republicans for not passing amnesty now, would immediately start bashing Republicans for not making the path to citizenship easier tomorrow. The left will again start promoting every stupid thing Steve King and his ilk say about immigrants, in order to, again, pressure moderate Republicans into caving.

In other words, by highlighting King, the left is again demonstrating that passing amnesty solves nothing.

He’s basically arguing that Latinos are never going to like Rep. Steve King (R-IA), so Republicans might as well vote like him.

Carroll is definitely right that the Hispanic media are watching reform closely and amplifying the worst comments about immigrants, the same way anti-reform Republicans are amplifying their concerns even though lots of Republicans — including a majority in the district represented by Steve King — want reform that includes a path to citizenship.

Here are five of the worst things Republicans have said about immigrants recently.

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  • Kurt CPI

    I think this is so typical of the people that end up being our politicians. Have you ever heard anything so clueless come out of the mouths of anyone other than politicians? These people are experts at campaigning, pandering to their base, and that is the extent and focus of their knowledge. As far as how the world actually functions, clueless doesn’t even begin to describe them.

    • InsideEye

      there are many politicians on both sides making irreverent remarks. The media likes to stir up the pot by accentuating these. Immigration reform is wanted by 70% of Americans , but not at the expense of open borders and jeapardiziing National sovereignty and security . No new laws are required except adhering to to existing laws. Anchor babies should be made to return also, with their parents, Since they were born under illegal intent.

      If all illegals were issued work visas they would not have to get their backs wet, like rats, swimming across the Rio Grande, or have to walk across the desert with socks and legs looking like cantalopes, filled with pounds of marijuana or drugs. Their cards would identify them and they could cross the borders at will and have jobs here and pay taxes, access health care and education as long as they are contributing. How simple is that. The latest round of proposed laws are loaded with earmarks trying to entice politicos to vote for it…this is outrageous. I can draft a 2 page bill to cover contingencies.

      • Kurt CPI

        Yes, true. Republicans don’t have the corner on ridiculous remarks. I agree that immigration reform must include measures (or, as you say, at least include the means to enforce existing laws) that see to it that future immigrants cannot enter the country and remain off the grid. I also didn’t watch the all the videos in their entirety, mostly just read the synopses which are, I’m sure, selectively quoted and summarized. My comment was more in general terms, the issue at hand just serves as the perfect vehicle for politicians to get their feet inserted further into their mouths (if that’s possible). If they weren’t in national leadership positions it would be laughable. Because they are, it’s just sad.

        • InsideEye

          It is amazing that politicians that are always having to watch their words so carefully, they screw up so badly. Or maybe they are their true sentiments. Again in these instances it was nothing so shocking , just a little colorful, local vernacular.

      • Justin Napolitano

        There is no such thing as an anchor baby. A person must be at least 21 years old to sponsor a parent. I guess you think someone 21 years old is a baby. Further, anyone born in this country is a citizen. Got it?

        • InsideEye

          Right but wrong. Illegals should not afford legal status to offspring. Currently They are entitled, according to a generous interpretation of the law to receive benefits, WIC etc, and allowed to re-unify families, increasing the burden on the sponsor. The legalized births may go home as in ” tourism births” and return later as a US citizen to take advantage of educational and social benefits and ” reunify members ” of the family to the US. THIS IS SUBJECT TO GAMING. 66 percent of immigrants have come to these shores in this fashion. They of course partake in the social benefits that the US tax payer offers. This type of system can unbalance the economic demographics considerably. The immigration policies of our grandparents were subject to job availability , and how one can help the country by giving ….not taking.

      • Dominick Vila

        The 14th Amendment is clear on the issue of citizenship. Anyone born in the United States is a U.S. citizen. Period. Moreover, since when has any society punished children for the crimes committed by their parents? Not even Stalin or Hitler went that far.
        Nobody is talking about open borders, in fact, we are building higher and longer walls and hiring more border patrols to contain the influx of illegal immigrants from South of the border which is at its lowest point since Carter was in office.

        • InsideEye

          Hitler, unfortunately killed children, too gruesome to detail. I live in the east and gaming of the system is prevalent, families collecting benefits, that do not need them…and have never contributed.
          When in Arizona recently I can say that the Mexican illegals work relentlessly , some get in trouble but in general are a wonderful family oriented culture. They should be carded and made a viable contributing part of our system, so their efforts are accounted for. I think that is what we all want and they also. No politics.

          • Jim Myers

            I live in North Carolina.

            The Hispanic population in this area has a few bad apples.
            However, the vast majority are very hard working, family oriented people, grateful for the opportunities afforded them, and contribute far more than they take.

            Considering the scorn from some locals, (a small minority), and politicians, I am surprised that there aren’t more problems from the Hispanics.

            We should be looking at how best to integrate them into our society as welcome members, rather than the “takers” that so many people think of them as.

            And, as for the citizenship rights of those born on our soil, that goes back centuries. Something we should be proud of, rather than something “Those people” take advantage of.

          • InsideEye

            Tis true , we do get an economic benefit from their presence . My concern was that the borders be secure and we track everyone’s presence for their own good as well as maintaining security . They are a mix of people that can easily be mistaken for terrorist types, Saudis , Middle Eastern , dark Hungarians, light Italians , pale Puerto Ricans even Chechnyans with pressure cookers.

          • Jim Myers

            I think I understand where you are coming from. Not that I disagree.

            However, it gets to a point that nearly everyone becomes suspect.

            The week of 9/11, my wife, her sister and I flew to Maui. We were scheduled 9/14, our flight actually departed 9/15.

            I was the youngest, at 55, her sister was about 60, and my wife was in between.

            We were pulled out of line at EVERY airport, and had our luggage “tossed”.

            When we asked why we were singled out, we were told we fit the generic profile they were looking for.

            All three of us are “white”, all of us were well over 50, none of us were in better than average shape for our ages. At the time, I was, shall we say, a little “pudgy.”

            We all had a good laugh about it. Although, at the time, it was a real hassle.

          • InsideEye

            You went about it the wrong way, you are forgiven for not being knowledgeable about NorthEastern type of Political Correctness. You could have easily gotten onto the plane and avoided the security search if you had worn a turban and had a pressure cooker in your hand. No one would even dare ask you to be searched . I went to school in the South and know how naive and nice the citizens are. Stay there and save the North and Chris Matthews from themselves when the time comes.

          • Jim Myers

            Your attitude is exactly why Americans are hated by so many people around the world.

          • InsideEye

            America is loved, that is why many want to come here…even terrorists. Americans are able to make satirical remarks about flagrant, silly anachronisms as you went through on that trip. I work in the pit of northeastern hypocracies, and I find amusement in it. Gets me through the day.

  • bcarreiro

    Bring our troops home to guard our borders, provide amnesty to immigrants who work hard, are not common criminals and who are considered illegal because of time overspent here in the promise land. enough with the baffling of bullshit no wonder everyone HATES americans but not necessarily hate america if it werent for the republican party in congress who could care less when they are taking from us as well to highten their wallets. republicans dont make change because they could possibly look weak in which they already are. are you listening predjudice should have no place in congress but neutral individuals with an objective to move forward!!!

    • InsideEye

      All politicians are increasing their wallets. Mexicans work very hard and should be given special considerations with working permits , allowed to participate in health care and education by paying taxes etc, but not allowed to vote, until they achieve legal citizenship, they would be making a living and have cars .
      But is it fair for others who have waited in line ????? This soooo simple to solve, we can print up working Visa cards in short order, no fees of any kind, just a INS /SSN number for tracking

  • Catskinner

    Comprehensive Immigration Reform is the biggest disaster since Obamacare. Thoughtful Americans ought to be doing whatever they can to get rid of both of them.

  • Dominick Vila

    The GOP’s worst enemies are their constituents.

  • Catskinner

    Ken Cuccinelli is right. One of the things that could be done to make the current immigration mess better would be to eliminate the process of “family reunification.” It’s called chain migration to it’s detractors, and it’s way past time to break the chain.

  • Catskinner

    Most thinking folks in America agree with Michele Bachmann. The president’s phony “dream act,” was political, illegal, and needs to be abolished.

    • guest

      The “dream act” is exactly what the majority of these posters are asking for. Punish the parents who are here illegally while allowing their children they brought with them to stay – with strict conditions (if you would read the damn thing you would understand this) as far as the children born here – they already ARE legal citizens of the USA – you can’t deport someone who is a US citizen – where would you deport them to? They are here legally whether you like it or not and this is NOT part of the dream act – this is the law since the start of this country – which by the way was started by “illegal” immigrants.

      • Catskinner

        The “Dream Act” might be what most of these posters want, but it’s bad policy. The act that made it possible for millions of people born in this country to become citizens was not in effect at the start of the country. It was included in currently misinterpreted language that is part of the 14th amendment, which was enacted after the Civil War. The beneficiaries of the phony Obama dream act are not, and should not be citizens of this country unless they go through the naturalization process.

        I would agree the parents of these people are the ones who are responsible for them being here. They need to address their grievances to their parents–not to the taxpayers of this country.

        • Allan Richardson

          So the kid who graduates high school and finds out THEN that he came here illegally should do what? SUE his own parents for damages? Would those parents have any assets to pay him off? And how would the money help him if he has to “return” to a country he doesn’t remember where they speak a language he doesn’t understand? Basically you are saying that the LIVES of these people are “disposable.” I have noticed that in many other issues conservatives consider anyone who has not succeeded, whether due to their own faults or not, to be “disposable.”

          • Catskinner

            A lot of things happen like that, AR. The problem we have with the discussion the way it is now, nobody in the media is making the point that the kid’s parents are to blame. The kid can seek whatever remedy he/she wants, but to bestowed citizenship at the expense of everyone else should not be a viable option.

        • disqus_LcxpBv2uzz

          By your reasoning, then, except for the indigenous peoples, the native americans, almost all of our ancestors are illegal immigrants

          • Catskinner

            The earliest attempt to legally define immigration in America, Lex, occurred in 1790.

    • Megumi Yuuki

      So when are you deporting yourself? I can bet you anything I can prove you are illegal here too.. same goes with 97.5% of every person in this country. Spew your chit elsewhere.

      • Catskinner

        Okay! If you don’t want to hear the truth, Megumi, that’s your business.

    • LotusJoan

      No, most thinking folks in America do not agree with Michele Bachman on this or really anything else.

      Hows the air in the bubble Catskinner, you ok in there?

  • MichelleRose3

    Hispanic (Mexican, Central American, South American) immigrants are here and they aren’t going away anytime soon. Like, forever. And there will be more of them. Why not? Their countries are run mostly by corrupt despots or military juntas and the resources of their countries are diverted into the pockets of those corrupt rulers because there is no one to stop them. The US makes deals and has trade relations with almost all of the Hispanic counties and their corrupt rulers this side of the Atlantic. Why not? Better the devil you know than one you don’t.

    But the flow of illegal/unlawful/undocumented (pick your own PC word, if you please) people into this country should make us think differently about the despots and tin-plated dictators of those countries. It hasn’t. Instead, we try to stop the flow and deal with the aftereffects of our country absorbing a whole bunch of people who aren’t on the radar and technically aren’t part of the “American Dream.”

    News flash: it’s just as much a Dream for those folks as it is for us. They want a piece of the action, the rewards of concentrated effort, the knowledge that they gave their kids a fighting chance in the dog-eat-dog economy that powers this world. I ask all of you one simple question and for God’s sake, consider it fully and answer honestly:


    Our great-and-further grandfathers and grandmothers did. THAT’S who built this country, not the Rockefellers and the Astors and the Vanderbilts. Immigrants! English, Irish, Scottish, Polish, Jewish, Italian, Chinese . . . the list is endless and that doesn’t even begin to account for the influx of different ethnicities in just the last four decades. Remember the boat people? Guess what? They got citizenship and a few of them are running corner grocery stores, just like your granddad or your uncle. Some of them are award-winning scholars and scientists, too.

    My point? Ever hear of hybrid vigor? It’s a term used mostly by botanists. Crossbreed certain strains of plant life and the end result is a plant (like wheat, for example) that is healthier, more robust, more likely to pass those good genes on to successive generations and far more likely to survive inclement conditions. Consider human beings in that light and it’s painfully obvious that any sort of anti-immigrant mind-set is just another damn fool attempt at “racial purity” which is a synonym for “racial suicide.”

    (Personal opinion, not always supported by anthropologists and sociologists: there ain’t no such damn thing as “race”. There is only ONE race: the human race. “Species” is more accurate. Screw racism and racists. They’re idiots.)

    From a purely scientific position, we’re screwing ourselves by not permitting an influx of new genes. Briefly, it’s really, really stupid and we’re going to pay the price for that hideous error sooner than later.

    The white boys from Down South in Texas, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, and Tennessee are playing the racial purity game and my only wish is that they move to some island in the South Pacific and do it there rather than here. Go build your damn “whites-only” empire where we don’t have to look at it, will you? It’s a symbol of sickness, insanity, and we don’t need it, we don’t want it, and we’re not going to tolerate it much longer. Free speech and self-determination is one thing, but when you start messing with our potential for survival, it’s time for a short, nasty war.

    You good ol’ boys seem to forget: you lost the last damn war. You want another one? You’ll lose this one, too. Shall I tell you why?

    Because you’re too stupid to see or admit the truth. I remind you that the Confederation was noted for refusing to accept the reports of its own intelligence-gathering bodies. Hmm, things haven’t changed much, have they? You damned fools keep making the same mistakes over and over, which is why I’m fairly confident that if it turns to another War of Secession, we’ll kick your collective asses just like we did last time.

    Accept the flow. It will make us stronger and better. Any other approach is doomed to failure or worse.

  • glorybe2

    America apparently can not do a good job of taking care of people who were born on US soil. If you can not take care of what you already have why would you allow any immigration at all. We need a 100% cap on immigration and we need those who are here illegally to be forced back across the borders. Yes we could make an exception for those brought in as infants and graduated from school in the US. But other than that I am for zero immigration for 100% of all applicants for all reasons.

  • [email protected]

    Hispanics across the United States should purchase a “T-Shirt” that
    reads “I AM A CANTALOPE”