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Tuesday, March 19, 2019

Less than a week after the Supreme Court struck down Section 4 and gutted the Voting Rights Act, North Carolina is proving why it was so necessary.

Under the now-defunct Section 5 of the Act, 40 of North Carolina’s 100 counties had to get “pre-clearance” before they could make any changes in voting laws. State Republicans are now preparing a package of tactics that are clearly designed to suppress the minority vote. In addition to a statewide voter ID law, the proposed legislation would cut early voting and eliminate Sunday voting, when African-Americans often vote after church as part of the “Souls to the Polls” program.

Republicans argue that the goal of limiting voting is to tamp down on voter fraud, a problem that simply does not exist, as the Bush administration discovered during a multi-year study.

But the true reasoning is much more cynical and obvious. It’s about preventing legitimate voters from voting by creating long lines that many working-class voters simply cannot afford to wait in.

“Research indicates that Democratic voters disproportionately use in-person early voting, while Republican voters are more likely to vote by absentee ballot, according to Chelsea Brossard at the Early Voting Information Center at Reed College,” writes the National Journal‘s Reid Wilson.


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91 responses to “Supreme Court Opens The Floodgates For Voter Suppression In North Carolina”

  1. labman57 says:

    Republican legislators have not even attempted to hide their contempt for the democratic process. In true Machiavellian fashion, they have displayed a willingness to take an ideological dump on the fundamental principles of our democracy in order to further their political agenda.

    Since Republicans cannot count on the votes from key demographic sectors of the electorate, they have opted for a different approach — reduce the number of these citizens who are able to vote.

    And so they have strategized (and to some extent, implemented) a multi-pronged effort to curtail the ability of minority, student, and elderly voters to participate in the election process:

    1) Make it more difficult to “prove” your citizenship via voter ID legislation, fully aware that the elderly and socio-economically disenfranchised citizens will have a much more difficult time providing the narrowly-defined necessary documentation to verify their right to vote.

    – unlike voting, buying beer or boarding a commercial airliner are not constitutionally-guaranteed rights.

    2) Cull the registration database for names deemed to “probably” be fictitious or otherwise fraudulent. (Anyone whose surname ends in “-ez” is most certainly an invalid registrant …)

    3) Eliminate or drastically reduce early voting, since poor and elderly voters tend to have a more difficult time getting to the polls on the first Tuesday of November, and urban precincts are more likely to have extremely long lines that require you to stand for hours in line.

    4) Create modern equivalents of the poll tax (part of the old Jim Crow laws) wherein selected demographic groups must incur out-of-pocket expenses to retain the right to vote.

    However, the right wingers’ fallacious perception of progressive minority voters as lazy and shiftless parasites on society was part of their undoing — they assumed that if the voting process was made too difficult, then the affected members of the electorate would simply opt out of the process — this clearly did not occur in the 2012 elections.

    With respect to the voter ID legislation/registered voter purges that have been pushed forth by Republican-controlled state legislatures under the guise of reducing nonexistent “voter fraud”, GOP legislators should simply cut to the chase and proclaim that the only Americans who have a legitimate right to vote are those who are registered members of the Republican Party.

    • Joseph Squerciati says:

      Indeed who can forget that guy from Pennsylvania saying ‘Voter ID DONE this give Romney a win ”

      As for students voting Texas will NOT accept a Student ID as identification and another state wants to penalize the parents of any students who votes from his campus address.

      It is no small coincidence that Roberts was employed by Reagan to go after the Voting Rights Act

      I find it interesting that the Conservatives on the Court ,who are constantly warning us about the dangers of an Activist Court substituting its Judgement for that of Congress , should overturn a law renewed 98 to 0 in the Senate and opposed by ONLY 30 something members of the House AND yes I mean YOU Antonin Scalia .

  2. Lynda Groom says:

    The roll back has begun all over the place and it is not pretty. Progress is backwards for the GOP, and this is going to cost them another generation of minority’s and women. And they continue to say there is no war upon women and they love minority’s and want more of them to become republicans. Yeah, right!

    • Lorr says:

      It is that damn Time Machine of theirs, First they are taking women’s reproductive rights back to the 50’s and now they want the Right to Vote to go back there as well. Why do people continue to vote for people who want to go back in time instead of living in the present and planning for the future?

  3. sunmusing says:

    The corporations are still in the process of consolidating their gains in the coup of 2010…History will not be kind to this Supreme Corporate Court…

    • Irishgrammy says:

      I completely agree with you sunmusing! Have watched this court closely since the diabolical decision of Bush vs. Gore in 2000 and have been consistently appalled and disgusted. These unrelenting and inflexible 4 and sometimes 5 conservative justices whose names we all know all to well, are NOT interpreting the “Constitution” but are instead finding anyway possible to twist the Constitution to “fit” their far right ideological positions and rule to that end. And what does the American people get for that, unending rulings in favor of corporations consistently, fewer avenues for common folk to have any recourse, Citizens United, probably the single most destructive decision leading to the prostitution of funding political campaigns in US history and all the corruption that goes with that, and the latest, the gutting of the VRA in a country that, has and will continue to have racial animus persist, as a political party, the GOPTP stoke this “southern strategy” i.e., racial division and feeding “fear of the others” that Republicans’ voting base love and where the usual suspect states, all totally controlled Republican states, are now going all out to suppress the vote of minorities, and all those the far right detest.
      History will indeed, view harshly this Supreme Court, the most politically influenced court ever, with the most inappropriately behaving justices i.e., Scalia, Thomas and Alito as they cozy up to the Kochs’, et al, and Scalia’s comments tinged with intolerance and racism…….it’s just a spectacle of obscene behavior for a sitting justices.

      • sunmusing says:

        Get ready for BIG fights in the States, where the Koch boys have been busy…

      • idamag says:

        About the word,you used – “prostitute.” I once drew a cartoon showing a long black car labeled “Congress” and a group of prostitutes on the sidewalk with one of them leaning in the car window. Of course, real prostitutes are more honest than those that purchase congress.

      • Joseph Squerciati says:

        Scalia is a LEGEND in his own mind and thomas is less than useless since in almost every case he votes with Scalia .

        Scalia most DEFINITELY picks the outcome he wants and the finds a reason to justify it ,

        I read somewhere that he had originally decided on some reason about the Florida Supreme Court’s ruling but they corrected it and so he came up with the OBSCENE use of the equal protection clause . I saw him interviewed on 60 Minutes and he justified that torture is not Cruel and Unusual Punishment because it is applied BEFORE sentencing and thus is NOT a Punishment . At that point I longed to WATERBOARD the pompous SOB

        • Irishgrammy says:

          I so agree with you Squerciati! What is such a concern for me is Scalia’s evident “racism” deeply ingrained and his bigotry towards the LGBT community which follows, he really does not believe in equal protection for a very large group of people, I mean really, what is that, how is that in anyway representative of Constitutional protections for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. And Scalia’s pronouncements on torture is just obscene. He is an embarrassment to those lofty Supreme Court Justices of the past and fully represents the ultra narrow minded Conservative ideology which is destroying the fabric of this country. And I don’t even want to go to what this Roberts Court has done to the Voting Rights Act, as these Southern states have run within hours of the ruling to impose these oppressive laws to keep so many Americans from voting, just sickening!!!

  4. charleo1 says:

    If we look at the GOP in the broadest of terms, what are the most general of
    observations that can be made? For one thing, it’s far more driven by ideology.
    And that ideology is a great deal more radical, and much less nuanced than
    before. If the old, Grand Old Party for example, sought reductions in taxes for
    corporations. Today’s GOP, wants to eliminate them altogether. The former
    GOP, thought the solution to increase the number of people with health
    insurance, was a market based, National Health Plan. That mandated those
    individuals capable of doing so, but not otherwise, covered. To purchase
    insurance to indemnify doctors, and other health providers, like hospitals.
    So their expenses did not fall on the public. This was consistent with the GOP’s policy of individual responsibility. Today’s GOP says it is the worst kind of government involvement into a decision that should be left up to the individual,
    as to whether they would buy a policy. Or leave the bill on the provider’s books
    for the public to pay. As it turns out, this is the singular instance, where the new radical GOP, is for expanding individual Rights. The majority of the newly formed policies, tends to reflect a Party willing to be much more authoritarian with the citizen, especially when it comes to the female citizens, or citizens who are part
    of a minority, than was the old. Policies, and principals are much more likely to constrict, or limit the actions of citizens. As new voting laws are enacted wherever
    it is possible, clearly designed to limit citizen participation. The justification being given for such action so thinly veils the true intentions of the Party without even the pretense of defending their assertion of voter fraud. Shows a real contempt for the very idea of one man, one vote.

    • Dominick Vila says:

      One of the greatest ironies associated with the GOP opposition to the Affordable Care Act is their determination to preserve Reagan’s socialist Emergency Room freebies while calling Obama’s support of ACA, a program that requires the uninsured to get coverage from for-profit insurance companies, socialist! The worst part of their inconsistencies is the dichotomy of their message and their inability to think logically.

      • charleo1 says:

        Exactly! It looks like a Republican solution. It works like a Republican
        solution. It pays tribute to the free market, for profit systems, they
        claim makes the world go round. I guess, they forgot to tell Mitt Romney, what they privately thought of the plan, they publicly supported. And, since GOP voters have decided to have no recollection of either their Party’s previous proposals concerning healthcare, or any part of the entire Bush Administration. They have created this sort of political black hole. Where inconvenient policies, and ugly Presidential Administrations can be disposed of, like last night’s unfortunate chicken fricassee.

  5. Dominick Vila says:

    When I voted last November I saw an elderly African American lady on a wheelchair who was, clearly afflicted by a severe handicap, being pushed by her son to the polling place. It was obvious that nothing would have prevented from doing her civic duty. It is incumbent on all of us to ensure fellow Democrats have the necessary IDs, are able to go to their polling place, know when to vote, and are able to overcome all the barriers White Supremacists are placing in front of them to dissuade them from enjoying one of our greatest privileges: the ability to choose our leaders without interference or intimidation…regardless of what this Supreme Court thinks is best for our country.

    • gvette says:

      yes, and make sure they can vote at least three, or four times!

      • fishingfly says:

        And your data and facts supporting this statement would be??? NONE. Please make some intelligent comments with supporting data a nd valid citations that would give the rest of us something useful to consider, then you might actually change some viewpoints. I’m guessing you can’t do it because you don’t have a valid point Go ahead respond with your usual inane name calling rant . It’s the only thing you really can do.

        • Sand_Cat says:

          How can you demand data, facts, and intelligent comment from someone so obviously handicapped in all three areas? Show a little sensitivity:-)

      • Keeler says:

        I know facts can be, well, messy and contradict what one believes or wants to believe, but here are some regarding this issue:

        • gvette says:

          I guess you missed the gal that

          works for the board of elections

          in Ohio, that voted several time,

          not only for her, but some of her relatives.

          Then again, as you’re to bust sucking obams dick

          you miss the news!

          • Sand_Cat says:

            I guess you missed it when they were handing out brains and education.

          • Russell Byrd says:

            Probably didn’t miss it. Just didn’t want any.

          • gvette says:

            I’m better educated then you are. That

            obvious. I can see what that trash

            in the white house is doing. You can’t,

            or you want dictator. Stop getting your

            news from a comedian, and open your eyes.

            read a book called “Demonic”. It explains

            things even you might understand.

          • idamag says:

            Boy, is that ever obvious.

          • Brent says:

            I guess you missed the GOP Registration Contractor who dumped Dem Registration forms in a dumpster behind a business in Virgina:
            “The manager described the man to Rockingham County sheriff’s deputies, who the following day arrested Colin Small, 23, a voter registration drive contractor for the Virginia GOP — and charged him with eight felonies and five misdemeanors related to the destruction and disclosure of the applications and obstruction of justice.”

            “A few weeks earlier, the GOP had been under fire following reports of suspicious registration applications that had been submitted in 10 Florida counties by a company run by Nathan Sproul, a Republican operative who has long been trailed by allegations of voter fraud. The Republican Party paid Sproul’s company, Strategic Allied Consulting, about $3 million this year for registration drives in five swing states: Colorado, Florida, North Carolina, Nevada, and Virginia.”

            “In Palm Beach County, Fla., alone, about 100 questionable voter registrations were flagged, more than half of which involved changing a voter’s party affiliation to Republican or independent. Discrepancies were also found in North Carolina.”

            “And a viral video uploaded to YouTube in late September showed a young woman who worked for Strategic Allied Consulting registering voters in Colorado and admitting that she was only looking for Republicans. “Well, I’m actually trying to register people for a particular party. Because we’re out here in support of Romney, actually,” the woman said.”

            Gimme another, I got more, even though all these fraud cases (both Rep & Dem) didn’t amount to more than 0.00001 of the total votes and affected neither candidate’s number by much!

          • gvette says:

            Because it was fraud, your number is a fraud also.
            You missed all of the dead democrats that voted.
            Then again, that’s the only way you can respond.

          • Brent says:

            “That particular form of voter fraud is “virtually non-existent,” according to the extensive public-records search conducted by News21, a nonpartisan investigative news project funded by the Carnegie and Knight foundations. Researchers filed more than 2,000 public-records requests and reviewed nearly 5,000 court documents, official records and media reports to get their information.

            They identified 2,068 alleged cases of voter fraud since the year 2000, a period during which there have been more than 600 million votes cast in presidential elections alone, do the math. That, the study noted, is an “infinitesimal amount.” It also showed a total of 10 cases of in-person voter fraud during that period.

          • idamag says:

            They did a thorough investigation of supposed voter fraud. The number was less than 5 % in 20 years.

          • You are absolutely right Brent and I have the documents to prove it. Do yourself a favor and just ignore gvette. As former Secretary of State Dean Acheson said of Republican Senator Joe McCarthy and Jenner – “they are Primatives” just like gvette.

          • idamag says:

            These are supportable facts. Thank you.

          • progressiveandproud says:

            Stay classy little troll.

          • gvette says:

            Spoken like a true democrat.

          • idamag says:

            I am going to tell you something, acid mouth, I don’t believe in political parties. They divide the nation and will eventually cause the downfall of democracy. You are one of the enemies. Last election I did vote straight Democrat because of people, like you, I got a nasty impression of what the Republican Party is,

          • idamag says:

            Please go away. You are out of your league here.

          • idamag says:

            Missed it. Why don’t you name names, district and proof so I can find it.

          • Brent says:

            We have already established that this one woman did this, and the article gave name, place and COURT proceedings.
            I gave you 4 examples of DOCUMENTED cases, names, places and COURT proceedings (if sentenced) that happened just this last election cycle, as well as a well documented NON-partisan study of supposed voter fraud that proved it was in the – (minus).001 percentile of all 600 million votes cast since 2000.
            I asked you for any OTHER DOCUMENTED cases with names, places and COURT proceedings, (or sentences) of voter fraud. I researched and could NOT find any reference to “… all of the dead democrats that voted.” to which you referred. Please document, or back-up, your premise.

          • Brent says:

            We have just proven that Voter Fraud is suspected/perpetuated on all sides and for that one conviction, I cheer. I am all for full sentencing and prosecution of ANY fraud and I mean from ANY party!
            My initial point was and still is; that Documented Voter Fraud is still negligible, compared to the number of votes cast throughout the whole Country. Not enough to change who is elected, one person over another, in the sheer volume of the process.
            If either candidate were to win the National Election by a mere 100 or 200 popular votes, then I would be concerned for the miniscule percentage of the vote, that Voter Fraud has been proven to be.

          • Brent says:

            In Both cases, these are Hearsay accounts, nothing brought to Court or Prosecuted, which they SHOULD if they have proof enough for trial.
            This (and two of my examples) just prove another of my points from another conversation, that most documented (and inferred) cases of Fraud offenses are instigated by Polling Place personnel, not ‘walk-in’ voters!
            In our State, there were many representative observer volunteers from all parties, at each polling place (of which I was one) and we were expressly told that if we saw any problems, we were to ‘holler’ to the State Official Representative and it would be addressed immediately; we had none and no reports anywhere in the State.
            As one of your articles observed, much of these suspected fraud and misunderstandings are perpetuated by crowd crushes in hours long lines in States that have shortened voting days.
            Our State, on the other hand, addressed the problems we had experienced in the past, by allowing more Mail-in votes (like Oregon) and added 2 days of voting, which alleviated the crowds and crush of last minute voters getting off work at five and standing in line until 9 to vote.

      • Sand_Cat says:


      • progressiveandproud says:

        Oooh, we have our ubiquitous republican troll here for the day. Please go back to red state little troll, they love you over there. Here at Alternet we simply have contempt for you

      • idamag says:

        I hope you aren’t trying to pass yourself off as someone with intelligence.

  6. Catskinner says:

    Voter ID laws simply provide for honest and open elections. They have nothing to do with voter suppression. The article is misleading.

    • MasterWes says:

      That would be true if there were provisions for people who simply can’t get out to get that ID. A person who is mentally sharp but physically unable to leave the bed, would most likely have an outdated ID, and thus be denied the right to vote, since a personal appearance to apply for the absentee ballot would most likely be put into the mix.

      Besides, they always have accepted forms of ID that do not state citizenship. Where, for example, does a driver’s license or a birth certificate from within the USA give proof of US citizenship? If you can prove that either of those documents are proof of citizenship, then give it. I will give you a hundred smackers.

      • Catskinner says:

        I agree, Wes, states would have to make provisions to provide Photo ID’s to every voter free of charge. The laws that have passed Supreme Court muster have done that.

        Additionally, I don’t think the documents necessarily have to “state” citizenship, though citizenship is a primary reason for the laws. But another reason to have them is simply to determine that the voter is who he says he is.

        • JSquercia says:

          Texas will accept as proof of ID a gun license but REFUSES to accept Student IDs . The intent is obvious to all who have eyes .

        • dpaano says:

          Catskinner: What about the older voters who were born at home and don’t have a valid birth certificate? How do they get an ID to prove who they are…do you think that the powers that be will accept a copy of their utility bill, their Medicare card (if they were able to even get one), or any other type of questionable proof (without a birth certificate)? It isn’t all that easy for someone who is elderly and bedridden to get out to get an ID card! Nor is it easy for a disabled person to oftimes get out to do this… you think the states should provide “traveling” people who can go to these individuals’ homes and help them get their ID cards so they don’t have to physically suffer additional pain and discomfort by trying to get out to take care of this ridiculous requirement!

          • Catskinner says:

            The state must make a reasonable effort to provide ID’s for people who want to vote. And there should be a place for them to go if they find they are having trouble.

          • dpaano says:

            Catskinner: Apparently, you’ve never been totally disabled or old! If you are bedridden, how in heck do you get out to get an ID even if there WERE a place for them to go if they are having trouble? What a ridiculous comment….maybe you need to go back and read what you wrote!

        • Sand_Cat says:

          Enough with the willful blindness and ignorance! Does the state also guarantee to make up loast pay for those who have to miss work to vote because the state cut voting hours?

          • Catskinner says:


          • Sand_Cat says:

            What, Cat got your tongue?

          • Catskinner says:

            The voter has to take on some responsibilities, SC. If they’re worried about missing work they can ask for an absentee ballot.

          • Sand_Cat says:

            Easy for you to say. I’m betting you’re not in danger of losing your job for missing work, or having to wonder if you can afford your next meal or the rent.

            Not to mention that absentee ballots are – according to those who REALLY care about it and actually know something beyond their political prejudices – one of the most likely and easiest tools for voter fraud [Edit]

            Doesn’t seem like making it harder on people who do have these concerns has anything to do with your excuse that it’s only to prevent “voter fraud,” which it’s obvious means voting for someone you don’t like, in spite of your rationalizations and denials. You have lots of company, including several members of Supreme Court, who cleared the way for you. So, enjoy! It’s Independence Day, even for those who hate the ideas on which the country was supposedly founded. And yes, some of those who signed the document commemorated on this date were hypocrites who owned slaves and also hated popular sovereignty as you apparently do.

          • Catskinner says:

            People have to live up to their responsibilities. We can’t have individuals voting multiple times in elections and expect a satisfactory outcome.

          • Sand_Cat says:

            As usual, you present no evidence to support your fantasies, obviously based on your refusal to accept the results of the last election. Perhaps you should live up to your responsibilities and stop lying to yourself and to us. But I can accept that you never will.

          • idamag says:

            It should.

    • JSquercia says:

      Simply stated Catskinner you LIE .The only cases I’ve heard of concerning voter fraud involved Republicans .One guy was caught and then claimed he TESTING the system and of course there is Mitt casting his vote for Scot Brown while living in his son’s BASEMENT . Ann Coulter voted from a friends address in Florida .Remember the case where a Nun from Notre Dame who was in her 80s and voted every year she was eligible was removed because she could not provide Voter ID .

      Remember the firing of various Attorney Generals by Bush because the REFUSED to find voter Fraud .Oddly enough the Supremes didn’t care that Voter ID laws were “fixing” a nonexistent problem .

      Do you remember in Ohio the republican Secretary of State wanted to allow more early voting in Republican districts while denying the same to Democratic districts .

      It was NO coincidence that voting lines in Democratic districts were far longer than those in Republican districts Increased Democratic vote on Election day while not providing extra resources to handle the larger turnout

      • Catskinner says:

        I refer you to my earlier post, JS. Wikipedia–check out the Sanchez/Dornan race and the Coleman/Franken race.

      • idamag says:

        I remember the Ohio thing. The map was on television showing where the polls would be open early and where they would close early. That is voter fraud. The sad thing is what it tells about the people of Ohio that they didn’t impeach the Secretary of State.

    • fishingfly says:

      It all is a matter of accessability, any system that allows a reasonable amount of time and number of places for “all” eligible people and asks for reasonable ID based on that individual’s circumstance is probably a legitimate ID program. I have a 96 year old father in law in assisted living who nno longer has a photo ID. He is a WWII vet. He require a ride to the polls or absentee ballot, some alternate forms of ID and reasonable voting times. Tell me a WWII vet doesn’t deserve to vote and I’ll will tell you a few expletive deleteds. A few postings back, some moron talked about people voting multiple times. The dificulty of that is monumental. Columbia University law School did an extensive study on that and found only 7 or 8 cases nationwide that were legitimate. The stories of thousands of duplicate votes were lies created by right wing propaganda sights and consisted of mostly of people with the same names, or dead people who were alive when they voted or just plain conjured up crap!

      • Catskinner says:

        Well, fishingfly, there are problems with somebody with an ax to grind doing the study. I would refer you to Wikipedia for the Sanchez/Dornan House race, and the Franken/Coleman Senate race in both cases they found hundred of fraudulent votes. One of the drawbacks is it takes a lot of manpower and a great deal of money to really do an in depth study. Those two races were so close and were so important that the government was willing to spend the time and the money.

        • fishingfly says:

          Actually, checking it out wasn’t a monumental task. I just did this to see what you would do. The case you referred to involved a democratic politician who was convicted of forging names on a “Petition” to get Hilary and Obama on the ballot in a couple of counties in the PRIMARY in 2008. Since all of the information was on various right wing sights and promoting a particular agenda, it was difficult to determine the entire gist of the story. It appears that he may have been wrongfully trying to “transfer” signatures from one petition to another. In any case, it fell under the voter fraud statute, even though no one was being elected, I also discovered that there were some Republicans under indictment in Indiana who actually double counted some votes. Now that is “election” fraud. Please be aware that anyone can post anything on wikipedia. Try this site for a little enlightenment:

          • Catskinner says:

            You obviously didn’t check out the sources I cited, flyfish–or maybe you did and didn’t want to talk about them. The link you provide is simply propaganda.

      • idamag says:

        and part of those who voted illegally did not know they were illegal. They had been convicted of a felony and did not know they could not vote.

    • Sand_Cat says:

      No, it’s you who are lying, or so incredibly stupid you’re unable to gauge the obvious intent. I’d also bet you support that intent, but haven’t got the integrity to say so openly.

    • Russell Byrd says:

      What all this nonsense is really about is not written in any Republicrim playbook. However, if you listen closely enough you will occasionally hear the truth discussed by right-wingers.

      This is about discouraging and depressing people. Discouraged and depressed people have a poor turnout at the polls. The poor and working people have an abundance of these problems anyway. As these groups are associated with being more pro-Democrat and the Pubs hate these groups anyway, the goal is to make voting as unattractive for them as possible. The Pubs want to make it as hard as possible for these people to vote, or make them think that there vote has no value.

      Don’t try to tell me this is false, I have had it personally admitted to by its practitioners.

  7. Lorr says:

    Voter Fraud that only exists in their minds. But if Voter ID is suppose to eliminate “Imaginary Voter Fraud” than why cut out early voting and eliminate Sunday voting, if not to prevent people of color from voting, elderly and disabled from voting. So much for Republicans being supporters of the Constitution or for Democracy. We are the laughing stock around the world as we preach Democracy, and in our own Country we do not practice what we preach.

    • fishingfly says:

      Actually giving more opportunity to vote would allow for more opportunity to catch voter fraud if it actually existed. This is another example of actions not matching the words.

  8. roguerunners says:

    So proud and thankful to live in the state of Oregon where we don’t waste time and money on trivial crap like this! Those of us who are registered to vote receive a ballot in the mail approximately two weeks prior to election day. We fill out our ballots in the comfort of our home where we can thoroughly research each vote we cast. We then put our ballots in the provided security envelope and then an outer envelope (also provided) which we sign for verification upon arrival at the elections office. Then we have the choice of mailing it in or dropping it off at one of the many drop sites. Once our ballots arrive, our signatures are verified and the security envelope is removed from the outer envelope. Then the ballots are processed and counted on election day. Done deal. On to bigger and more important things…

    • Great. Every State should do it just as Oregon does.

      • roguerunners says:

        Yes they should. And I should have mentioned before that the end result is double the voter turnout than before this brilliant plan was implemented.

    • idamag says:

      I think you are lucky to live in Oregon, also. Especially if you live near the Rogue River. I live in Idaho. It is one of the reddest states, but it doesn’t interfere with people’s right to vote. In fact, you can register to vote right at the polling place on election day.

      • roguerunners says:

        You got us pegged! 🙂 Right here in the Beautiful Rogue Valley. Family came here in the 1800s on the Oregon Trail. Their dream for a better life has lasted for generations. And many more to come…

  9. JDavidS says:

    Ah.. .Those appointments are payin’ off again, eh, George H.W.?

  10. itsfun says:

    I moved to Florida a few years back and had to show my birth certificate, proof of insurance, prove I was the person on the birth certificate. If I remember right I had to show my social security card or a copy of tax returns. I think this is kinda the same in most of our states. To be able to vote, I just had to sign a card giving my residence, and saying I am a citizen. Then I could vote in every national, state, and local elections. Apparently some people think it is more important to be able to legally drive a car then is to vote for our government officials. I can’t understand anyone complaining about showing an ID to vote. Especially after reading how many people voted more than once and the election scandals in Indiana.

    • fishingfly says:

      Please provide some valid data and citation on your Indiana comment

    • Sand_Cat says:

      So what do all these things you claim have to do with cutting voting hours?
      Some people like to deny what’s standing before them and screaming in their faces, too.
      And yes, please cite your sources where you “[read] how many peole voted more than once,” and the alleged “election scandals in Indiana.”

    • idamag says:

      They must have mistaken you for a Democrat.

  11. Lovefacts says:

    And this surprise anyone, why?

  12. dpaano says:

    The current Supreme Court has, on many occasions the past years, voted for items that are conservative in nature….this is just one more. Let’s look at Citizen’s United for example…..did we see the chaos it caused during the last election! Now they want to vote against something that is clearly spelled out in our Constitution….the 15th, 19th, 24th, and 26th Amendments “prevent states from denying citizens voting privileges…..” What part of this does the Supreme Court not understand? It amazes me on a daily basis at how often the Supreme Court votes against what the Constitution sets forth! We need to get rid of the “seat for life” for these individuals!

  13. idamag says:

    Please be advised there is a scam operation being perpetrated on these pages. Work at home schemes are never honest. Don’t tough it.

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