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Friday, October 28, 2016

Racism, what racism? It’s all the Devil’s fault. Send in the bees! These and other morsels of madness in “This Week In Crazy,” The National Memo’s weekly update on the wildest attacks, conspiracy theories, and other loony behavior from the increasingly unhinged right wing. Starting with number five:

5. Fox & Friends

Making their triumphant return to this page (for the second week in a row), the team at Fox & Friends, and co-host Steve Doocy in particular, have demonstrated once again that they don’t have the slightest modicum of intellectual honesty when engaging with the uglier side of America, which was brought back to national attention after the tragic events in Charleston. Namely: racism.

Doocy got the ball rolling on the anything-but-racism narrative last week when he insisted that a white supremacist shooting up a historically black church might have been motivated by anti-Christian sentiment — as if there were no other churches in Charleston except for “Mother Emanuel.”

On Thursday’s edition of Fox & Friends, Doocy doubled down on his cretinism by submitting that racism did not exist in America anymore because Obama was elected.

“If we were a racist nation, Barack Obama would not have been elected president of the United States — twice. It’s a math thing,” Doocy insisted, proving two things: that he can count to two, and that some people never learn.

As Megyn Kelly once so memorably said: “Is this just math that you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better or is this real?”

Via Media Matters

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  • I believe that conservatives should be lined up and eliminated, because those that follow that ideology have never actaully done anything to improve this country or any other. If there were a devil, he would be the one who keeps pushing their agenda, meaning, throughout history, Conserative Christians have been doing his bidding, they are evil, they are the enemy, they want to destroy all those not like them. On the other hand, u can be an evil “Lefty” like myself, and would love to allow everyone to live in peace, but you can when one part of the popultion wants to live in a Theoracy, which the Founding Fathers were against.

    • The_Magic_M

      > I believe that conservatives should be lined up and eliminated

      Which makes you no better than super nutbag Erik Rush. Go elect yourself another country.

      • TZToronto

        How about just letting the Conservative Christians participate in the election process so that they can see their numbers dwindle, election to election?

      • Eleanore Whitaker

        The joke is CONservative is another word for CONfederate. How many times have the CONservative posters all claimed this country is a Republic? We know that. But, in their contextual language, Republic is a word they translate as “CONfederacy.”

        And wow…isn’t that what they have done to the rest of the country? Put a GOP president in office and the country goes into immediate recession? That’s the CONjob the CONservatives from the CONfederacy do best.

    • idamag

      Those who say they are conservative, now, are really anti-government. They want no regulations and no taxes.

  • Dominick Vila

    As pathetic as the Confederate flag controversy is, and the excuses being articulated to justify the massacre at the Emanuel Church are, what caught my eye this week was Mike Huckabee’s reaction to the SCOTUS 6-3 ruling on the ACA, which he called “judicial tyranny”, and Ted Cruz’ promise to repeal the ACA if elected President. Their reactions and promises, which seem to be more in line with Satanic Cult principles than anything remotely related to Christianity, should serve as a reminder to every one of us as to what is at stake in 2016. With as many as 4 Supreme Court Justices being at retirement age, the consequences of the GOP controlling all three branches of government should be enough to terrify every single American capable of rational thinking. The solution is to vote, regardless of who our candidate is.

    • The_Magic_M

      > the consequences of the GOP controlling all three branches of government

      In all due fairness, I don’t think the likes of Cruz or Huckabee will ever be elected President, regardless of how much the GOP rigs the election (gerrymandering, restrictive laws, a little help from the guv’nor brother etc.).
      You’d end up with Jeb or Christie or another mainstream candidate. (Though I shuddered at McCain/Palin because that would have meant the US would’ve been just a heart attack away from a nutcase Prez.)

      • Dominick Vila

        The only comment I can make about Palin is that she is laughing all the way to the bank.

        • Daniel Jones

          I have been making that comment of late.

          It’s simply the evolution of the Stupid Veep, then the Presidential Beard of the Evil Veep.

          Finally, they came up with the model of making the insipid look like the only sane choice without leaving a moron *in office*.

    • The lucky one

      I think the recent collaboration between Obama and the GOP leaders on forcing TPP own our throats show that the GOP or its equivalent already do control all 3 branches or rather that at this point in time it doesn’t matter, politicians don’t rule, the 1% rules and both parties are deeply in their pocket. If Sanders can make it that may change but expect more of the same from Clinton.

      • Dominick Vila

        President Obama is a centrist, who has demonstrated a willingness to compromise on some issue to be able to advance his agenda, especially the things that are really important to him. Hillary is center-right on many foreign and domestic policy issues, and a liberal on social issues.
        My point regarding trade agreements is simply that they have never been designed to help create jobs at home. Rather, they are designed to help U.S. corporations and enhance our position in the global economy, not to mention the advancement of American economic and labor practices at a global level.

        • The lucky one

          I believe you are correct about trade agreements never being designed to help create jobs at home. That’s obvious with the TPP given that no representatives of labor have been allowed to participate or even read it. Nafta, another trade agreement with bi-partisan support (Bush I, Clinton, Bush II) had the opposite effect with a net job loss for “our” people. Notably the participatory exclusion includes elected representatives who may question it’s negative effects on jobs for their constituents and local, state and federal sovereignty. This agreement will not help “our” position in the global economy though it will help large corporations, many of them multi-national with zero interest in “our” position.
          Viewed from the position of the huge rightwing swing in our government, which I could add has picked up steam under Obama, your characterization of Obama as centrist and HC as center right may be close but from my perspective they are both right of center with HC probably being more so.
          You know in a few years I would truly love to say you were right and I was wrong but I don’t see any real evidence of that.

          • Dominick Vila

            We are not the only ones who are terrified of the long term impact of trade agreements. A lot of Europeans are very concerned with the potential impact the TTIP may have on the economies and labor practices, and standard of living. Their greatest fear is that European companies may decide to adopt American labor practices that would result in dramatic reductions in benefits, part time employment, and other such practices to increase profit margins and exceed shareholder expectations.

          • The lucky one

            I think their fears are well founded. Anytime a bunch of corporate lobbyists meet secretly with politicians the result will not be good for the working class in any country.

          • idamag

            That, alone, should make us suspicious of TPP.

          • Dominick Vila

            Why is it that nobody is raising an eyebrow or expresses concern over the TTIP that is being negotiated with European countries, and everybody is up in arms about the TPP?
            Is it because we prefer Audis over Hondas? Or because some of the participants in the TPP are Latin American countries?

          • The lucky one

            It’s not true that no one ” expresses concern over the TTIP that is being negotiated with European countries”. Actually the concern is with corporate conspiracy and so-called “fast track” wherein politicians and lobbyists work in secret to serve their corporate masters and then impose their intent on the people. You do remember “the people”? They are the ones the elected are supposed to serve. Both TTIP & TPP’s biggest threat to society is their inherent assault on democracy. One of their main aims is the introduction of Investor-State Dispute Settlements (ISDS), which allow companies to sue governments if those governments’ policies cause a loss of profits. In effect it means unelected transnational corporations can dictate the policies of democratically elected governments.

            Obama has pooh-poohed that eventuality but ISDSs are already in place in other bi-lateral trade agreements around the world and have led to such injustices as in Germany where Swedish energy company Vattenfall is suing the German government for billions of dollars over its decision to phase out nuclear power plants in the wake of the Fukushima disaster in Japan. Here we see a public health policy put into place by a democratically elected government being threatened by an energy giant because of a potential loss of profit. Nothing could be more cynically anti-democratic.

          • Dominick Vila

            I agree with the second paragraph, but not the first. By necessity, trade negotiations, and other international agreements, are conducted by the elected officials of each of country, rather than by all citizens, business, or labor institutions. If we don’t like what our elected officials are doing, we have the power to change that.
            We don’t know what is in the international agreements that our country participates in because we are not interested in researching the contents of what is being negotiated, the way people in other countries do, or because we expect clear evidence that those agreements will solve problems that only we – the people – can solve.
            Do we want jobs created? Demand investment in infrastructure and modernization, demand investment in education, demand penalties on companies and individuals that invest overseas, demand tax credits to companies and individuals that invest at home, and make it perfectly clear to every elected officials that if they don’t do what we – the people – expect we will boot them out of office. Isolationism is not the answer, and expecting other countries to bail us out because we don’t want to pay for what we need and benefit from is not going to happen.

          • The lucky one

            I agree with your last paragraph but not the first two. I understand that the elected officials do the negotiating but the level of secrecy here, even from our elected reps as to terms and conditions is unacceptable. Lobbyists for corporate special interests are privy to info that even elected officials are denied. It will be too late after the agreements go into effect for us to do anything.

            We don’t know what is in these international agreements that Obama and the GOP want not because we aren’t interested but rather because the information is being deliberately hidden from us.
            I agree with your suggestions in the third paragraph but wonder how we “demand” those things given the subservience of both parties to the corporate oligarchy. To my knowledge no one opposing TTIP or TPP is recommending isolationism or expecting other countries to “bail us out” (even though we bail other countries and well connected corporations out on a regular basis.)

          • dtgraham

            I think that last sentence is about right. The TPP tries to dramatically reduce the cost of differences in regulations, standards, wages, and so on in order to promote greater compatibility.

            You don’t have those stark differences with the Europeans when North American countries enter into trade agreements with them.

            There’s an understandable fear factor with the TPP and it’s not illegitimate.

        • Independent1

          My feeling is that most people are putting far too much of the blame for the loss of millions of American jobs on past trade agreements, and far too little blame for that happening, on the law that has allowed people like Mitt Romney; who have run companies like Bain Capital, which over especially the past couple decades, have leverage bought out thousands of American companies; while shipping millions of good paying American jobs overseas where they’ve been able to get them done on the cheap.

          • jmprint

            You hit it right on the nail, that is the problem, thank God Romney didn’t make it. The next President really needs to work on incentives for products made in the USA, and penalties for those items that we are forced to buy made overseas. I say forced, because we don’t have a choice.

          • Dominick Vila

            You are right. Trade agreements deal with tariffs, regulations, standards, and other such matters. They have nothing to do with job creation. If we want to create jobs in the USA we should demand investment in infrastructure, investment in alternative energy sources, investment in education, and domestic policies conducive to small business creation, rather than worrying about the standard of products and services in China.
            The job creation mantra was advanced by the labor unions in an effort to blame someone. Unfortunately, they are barking at the wrong tree on this one.

          • idamag

            I remember when Obama wanted to give the tax breaks to those companies that made jobs at home.

          • dpaano

            Yeah, that didn’t go over really well with the GOP!!!

      • silas1898

        Since they are all corporate whores; I’ll go with the ones who aren’t religiously insane.

    • silas1898

      “During his 1956 presidential campaign, a woman called out to Mr. Stevenson “Senator, you have the vote of every thinking person!” Stevenson called back “That’s not enough, madam, we need a majority!””

      Some things never change………

    • neeceoooo

      “I want to change the world for the better. The way I see it, to change the system, you have to be part of the system and then change it from the inside. So vote”

    • idamag

      My son, and I, were discussing that very thing this morning.

  • The_Magic_M

    Re: Doocy

    > ““If we were a racist nation, Barack Obama would not have been elected president of the United States — twice. It’s a maththing,”

    Oh Lordy, a RWNJ arguing “math”. Now here comes the guy with a master’s degree in it:

    1. Nobody said the US are a “racist nation”. He doesn’t even understand what “institutional racism” means (or deliberately wants to distort it to ridicule the concept).

    2. At what point, in his opinion, could we speak of a “racist nation”? He seems to mean it means “more than 50% are racist”.

    3. Even if that were the one true definition, his argument is bogus. Obama getting a majority of *votes* does not prove a majority of *Americans* are not racist. (I’m not saying that is the case, just taking his “logic” behind the woodshed and secondamending it to death.)

    And I won’t even go into the subtext of him claiming people voted for Obama to prove they’re not racist, an old right-wing adage that is racist in itself (by assuming people didn’t really want to “vote for the black guy”, or that it was his race, not his persona/agenda that got Obama elected).

    • silas1898

      I remember when Dumbya was doing “math”. It only adds up to more cash in their pockets.

  • dtgraham

    I haven’t seen a better case for justifiable homicide than watching this Fred Starnes. So he’s come out in favour of god sending hornets to sting same-sex couples to death, and then putting ants down Obama’s pants for…..some reason. Although ‘come out’ may not be the best way to phrase it in his case. Sure, what the hell. We’ll go with it.

    To think that the Republicans have to send their people yearly to this conference to impress and get applause from these incredible nutballs. You know, honestly…the way that party has devolved over the years this is increasingly becoming not a case of Democrats vs Republicans any more. It’s now cognizant beings vs the reptile people.

    • TZToronto

      You do a disservice to reptiles.

    • TZToronto

      How are the Starnes insects going to be targeted at just the people he doesn’t like? . . . Wait a minute . . . The last time this happened, the Jews left Egypt in the Exodus. They eventually went to what is now called the Holy Land. So if all of the Jews now leave . . . wherever . . . to go to the Holy Land, then Judgment Day is just around the corner. Yippee!! Wow!! Does that ever make sense!?!

      • dtgraham

        There you go. They’re just a hornet away from realizing their full potential.

        • Allan Richardson

          It’s not hornets, that frighten Jews, it’s WASPS.

          • dtgraham

            LOL. Excellent. Well played sir.

    • idamag

      The reptiles do not mingle among us so I can avoid them. I call these nuts a malignancy on democracy.

  • Eleanore Whitaker

    Ask any CONfederate what the hell they are “rebelling” about and they can’t tell you. So..look at who and what they are…First, they want only states’r rights they know will violate the rights of other states. Second, they hate federal regulations their states virtually can’t exist without. Third, they hate anyone who isn’t armed to the teeth, sneering, pumping their fists and snarling like hungry, caged lions. And this is all for what?

    That so-called phony culture is just that. If any Yankee pranced around waving a Revolutionary Colonial flag like these lunatics do, the “rebels” would rebel so loud, it would be heard in Outer Mongolia.

    They call themselves “rebels” all while they eat up federal tax dollars. Who gets a $1.72 return for the federal $1 they pay and then demands Yankees work longer, harder and live in mindless hardship all so the DogPatch inbreds can languish idly with only their big mouths “rebelling?”

  • FireBaron

    Regarding Todd Starnes, we all know that not being allowed to impose your narrow religious beliefs on everybody else in the country definitely constitutes “religious persecution”. However, denying a church or other group permission to expand their property because “it doesn’t fit with OUR neighborhood” is not.

  • Xenophon

    #1 is actually kind of scary

    • He says this while one of his coworkers, Phil “Squirrel Boy” Elmore, routinely rages in his WND columns that it’s Democrats and “liberal trolls” who want to line up and murder Republicans.

      If you want to know the true face of any far-right Republican, all you need to do is ask him to describe a Democrat.

  • nedcline

    It is better to let people think you are stupid than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

  • Grannysmovin

    The extreme right politicians, pundits and religious zealots are pitting race against race, religion against religion, prejudice against prejudice. These people are dividing our nation and “we the people” are allowing them. By allowing them to divide and conquer us as a nation we become bigger targets for our enemies.

    • idamag

      That is so true.

    • R Michael Maddox

      That is their PLAN. If they can keep US fighting U, then WE can’t join hands against THEM!! It is and has always been the PLAN of the Right wing and the powerful ones. They do it in business also. Management wants to keep the “Help” fighting and competing then we are to preoccupied to gang up on THEM!!

    • Bob Eddy

      And it really isn’t working that well. They now seldom win an election unless it is small enough thst a whole lot of money can win a few votes, then with gerrymsndering and voter supression, they can take a sekat in congress. Othrr than thst, they have been rather unsuccessful.

  • terry b

    I thought that obesity was the number one health problem in this country. Now I am beginning to believe it is mental health. Just watching the GOP and all of its followers spouting so much crap that now I am beginning to see them as the idols of sexists, racists and homophobes. Violence by racists is just that.. violence. The right wing has turned a once good party into a one that seems to value fascism over democracy.

  • winnona

    They should never, BUT NEVER allow Elisabeth Hussieback speak on ANYTHING that suppose to require a brain to consider…

  • stcroixcarp

    Who are the sponsors of that Rush character. Is he by any chance Rush Limbaugh’s love child?

    • CrankyToo

      You mean “hate child”, don’t you?

  • annienoel

    Many years ago Pat Boone was quoted in a woman’s magazine that Epilepsy was caused by people who were taken over by Satan or the devil. As you can imagine the backlash was quick and huge. The magazine printed an apology…but I can see that Pat hasn’t learned.

    • Bob Eddy

      Now, of course, he is not alone. An entire cottage industry has arisen up among these whackos. If you haven’t noticed, being in the right wing echo chamber means you never having to say you’re sorry…Not even a standard-issue right wing pseudo apology: “I’m sorry if anyone was offended by my racis, dishonesty and general douschiness,”

  • idamag

    Dooley, what part of “I’m going to kill some n*****s” can you not understand? Racism does not exist? Try looking into “christian identity,” “WAR,” “aryan nations,” “conservatives for America,” “kkk,” to name a few. Starnes, war on religious liberty?” You paranoid reliigious fanatics have been saying that for years because some, who don’t believe as you, do fight for their religious liberty. No wonder the Romans were throwing the christians to the lions. Pat boone, see my answer to dooley. Erik rush, I read the English version of Mein Kampf. Guess whose words sound as though they came out of hitler’s mouth? Proof that many of these right wingnuts are fascists.

  • ExRadioGuy15

    Ya know, the National Memo has been running this feature every Friday for more than two years….it is amazing that they never run out of Right-Wing insanity to expose…

  • ps0rjl

    First of all the Confederate battle flag should only displayed at Confederate memorials. It was never used as a state flag. Second if Bill O’Rielly is declaring any war fear not because he would never be in the front lines. Check out his name in the Chickenhawk database. He talks tough like a bully. He is just a loudmouth coward. Third, because of all these right wing religious conservative preachers the young people are leaving the faith in droves.

    • Not even there. Hell, there shouldn’t even been Confederate memorials. The secession of, and declaration of war by, the Confederacy was the greatest act of treason against the United States in history.

      Is that who we are? Are we a nation that honors and venerates treason?

      • dpaano

        Well, yeah, we let GWB and his cronies take us into an illegal war based on lies and did nothing about it. We let Cotton and his cronies send a seditious letter to the Iraqi government and did nothing. Treason seems to be an up and coming thing within our government lately….it’s sad to see!

    • dpaano

      Yes, the evangelical Christians have become an embarrassment to most REAL Christians…..I don’t blame our intelligent young people from running from the church in droves! It’s unfortunate because not all Christians think this way!

  • mack paul

    Homofascists! I love it. This week in crazy is always amusing but Bill O”Reilly is calculating, not crazy. He knows how to get money from idiots without working. I’ve seen him turn moderate and accommodating too many times when facing Jon Stewart’s bigger brain.

  • Darsan54

    Steve Doochy. You work so hard to personify your name. Do you never watch yourself after the show? Hear the words as they come out of your mouth? Talk with anyone outside of the studio?

  • MistressTime

    If they win it is Gods law. If they lose it is bad law. Can’t have it both ways.

  • dovawk

    “Fox and Friends”, “The O’Reilly Factor”, and other Faux News Talk Shows are really nothing but paid Trolls for the TV News Media.

    • dpaano

      Unfortunately, so many on the uninformed right tend to listen and believe every thing they put out there!!! Its pretty sad!