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Monday, February 18, 2019

Reprinted with permission from Media Matters. 

New York Times editors and reporters might’ve thought they were going to be congratulated by readers for Sunday’s front-page, six-reporter expose on President-elect Donald Trump’s nearly endless business conflicts. But a chorus of media observers and critics had other ideas.

Rather than applaud the Times for its report, lots of commentators wondered why the newspaper waited until after the election to wave large red flags about Trump’s obvious conflicts, especially when the Times — and so much of the campaign press — spent an extraordinary amount of energy obsessing over potential conflicts of interest, and possible ethical lapses, supposedly surrounding Hillary Clinton.

Looking back, there certainly seems to be a perception that the political press didn’t really care about Trump’s looming, impossible-to-miss conflicts or the bad “optics” they might produce. And it appears that the press was overly infatuated with conflict questions about Clinton — questions today that seem quaint compared to Trump’s far-flung business dealings, which represent a possible gateway to corruption.

That’s not to say the topic wasn’t addressed or that some journalists didn’t tackle it in real time during the campaign season. Kurt Eichenwald at Newsweek produced a helpful deep dive back in September. And the business press was urgent and upfront in detailing the unprecedented nature of Trump’s looming problem. Bloomberg in June: “Conflicts of Interest? President Trump’s Would Be Amazing.”

But in general, the political press seemed less engaged with this issue and appeared reluctant to tag the obvious Trump storyline as a campaign priority. There didn’t seem to be an institutional commitment to pursuing and documenting that storyline, even though the potential problems for Trump were obvious and the story might have disqualified him.

Even today, the story isn’t being treated with the urgency it deserves. Yes, more new organizations are tepidly acknowledging the colossal conflicts and looming inside deals, but so much of the coverage still lacks resolve. Question for journalists: If Clinton arrived at the White House with open and boundless business conflicts, how would you cover that story? What kind of outraged, lecturing tone would you take? Now treat the Trump story the same way.

Newsrooms need to learn from their lackluster campaign coverage and treat the unfolding Trump controversy as a permanent beat inside newsrooms for the next four years. It certainly demands that kind of attention and focus.

Note that aside from the Times’ big Sunday Trump conflict piece, the newspaper also published detailed articles on the topic November 21 and 14, and before the election on November 5. But aside from a few exceptions, in the months prior to Election Day, when voters were assessing the candidates, the intense focus on Trump’s conflicts just wasn’t there. (As Media Matters reported, the same trend played out on network newscasts, which devoted scant time to Trump’s conflicts of interest before the election only to ramp up coverage after Trump’s victory.)

Where was there lots of media campaign interest? (And also lots of bad journalism?) Trying to detail Clinton’s possible conflicts, a storyline forever deemed by the press to be a Very Big Deal.

Recall that the Times and The Washington Post considered potential Clinton conflicts stemming from the family charity to be so pressing that both newspapers entered into unusual exclusive editorial agreements with Peter Schweizer, the partisan Republican author who wrote the Breitbart-backed book Clinton Cash. (The Times also breathlessly hyped the book in its news pages.)

And that was 18 months before Election Day. The topic remained a media priority throughout the campaign.

Clinton Cash, a hodgepodge of innuendo and connect-the-dot allegations, was riddled with errorsU.S. News & World Report described the book as a “somewhat problematic” look at the Clintons’ financial dealings, while Time noted that one of the book’s central claims was “based on little evidence.”

Yet Clinton’s alleged conflicts were considered to be so important inside newsrooms — and it was deemed so crucial for the Beltway press to suss out every conceivable detail — that the Times and the Post were willing to make dubious alliances with GOP operatives.

Needless to say, no such partisan unions were formed to report out Trump’s massive business conflicts. Indeed, most news consumers would be hard-pressed to suggest Trump’s obvious business conflicts constituted a centerpiece of his campaign coverage for the previous 18 months.

Meanwhile, recall that lots of media elites demanded Clinton take action before the election in order to eliminate the supposed conflicts surrounding the Clinton Foundation. During August and September, that topic created yet another wave of frenzied Clinton coverage, fueled by the media’s “optics” obsession.

At the time, NBC’s Chuck Todd perfectly summed up the media’s weird pursuit when he announced, “Let’s be clear, this is all innuendo at this point. No pay for play has been proven. No smoking gun has been found.” Todd then quickly added, “But like many of these Clinton scandals, it looks bad.”

From NPR:

There’s no question the optics are bad for Clinton and the Clinton Foundation. But no proof has emerged that any official favors — regulations, government contracts, international deals — were curried in exchange for donations or pledges.

And from Time:

If she didn’t do anything wrong, why won’t she defend herself? By avoiding taking responsibility, Clinton only exacerbates the perception she is dishonest and untrustworthy, the primary hurdle on her path to the White House. Optics matter when the issue is transparency.

According to the media mantra, Clinton’s possible big-money conflicts looked really, really bad. Reporters hammered the theme for weeks and months, while only occasionally glancing over in the direction of Trump’s concrete conflicts.

Today, coverage of Trump’s conflicts and self-dealing has belatedly arrived. But it often comes with an odd sense of delayed wonder, as if journalists are just now realizing the epic size of the pay-for-play problem at hand for the country, while still hedging their bets.

For instance, the headline for the Post’s November 25 article announced, “Trump’s Presidency, Overseas Business Deals And Relations With Foreign Governments Could All Become Intertwined.”

Could? The president-elect’s business dealing could be a conflict for U.S. foreign policy? That Post framing seems to dramatically underplay what’s currently unfolding. As the Post itself has reported, “Trump has done little to set boundaries between his personal and official business since winning the presidency.”

Indeed, Trump’s refusal to divest himself from a sprawling array of business interests is certain to create an ethical morass that even Republican attorneys insist will produce endless, possibly debilitating, conflicts for Trump.

The media mostly missed this pressing story once during the campaign. They can’t afford to overlook it a second time.

IMAGE: U.S. Presidential Candidate Donald Trump gestures at a press conference held during a visit to his Scottish golf course at Turnberry in Scotland, August 1, 2015. REUTERS/Russell Cheyne

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306 responses to “Too Little, Too Late: Media Finally See Trump’s Potential Conflicts”

  1. Jim Samaras says:

    Let’s talk about this nonsense and nothing about President elect Trump ALREADY saving 1000 American jobs in Indiana. Wrong priorities as usual at NM.

    • But you love to keep coming here to whine. You have a warped sense of priorities which is why you’re so much of a sycophant and fawn so excessively over Trump. This is abnormal behavior, especially for an adult male.
      Are jobs the only thing your tiny mind thinks of? Better economy stems from the application of spiritual principles and having developed a keener sense of morality—not the other way around. Unfortunately with many Christians, and with many Jews, and many Muslims, and assorted others in the world, materialism now takes precedent, while concepts like empathy, reciprocity, an inclusive attitude, and attention to developing one’s moral character take a back seat.
      At least give a showing that you’re trying to develop those qualities even if you haven’t reached certain benchmarks yet—that’s what we all should be striving to do. I hope I’m not casting pearls before swine, Jim.

    • Sand_Cat says:

      Why not? It’s a lot less “nonsense” than anything you’ve ever posted here. Just because you have the attention-span and intellectual skills of a hyper ADHD 3-year old doesn’t mean REAL “thinkers” aren’t interested in the details of which you are ignorant.

      • Jim Samaras says:

        Hmmm, I must have hit a nerve with a non thinker here with that comment I made many months ago. Keep trying though

    • I Am Helpy says:

      Except that he didn’t; those jobs weren’t going anywhere. Meanwhile, he’s just managed to help 1500+ jobs go to Mexico – and proposed paying the company for doing it.

      Why, it is almost like he’s a rich liar who promised a bunch of dumbasses things he had no intention of carrying through on.

    • I Am Helpy says:

      Also, the Japanese head office of a large company just shut down yet another major project one of my competitors had. 40-50 people laid off (some of whom I’m gonna poach), and new work for me if I can get to it in time.

      I mean, you gotta laugh at how badly you got suckered, you sucker.

    • I Am Helpy says:

      Lastly, even if your “1000 jobs” wasn’t TOTALLY IMAGINARY, Obama saved more than 1.5 million jobs just with the auto industry bailout.

    • Eleanore Whitaker says:

      For a rock star wannbe like you? Of course the Emoluments Clause should exempt Trump. The U.S. Constitution is NOT nonsense to the people who founded it nor the men and women who died for the right to keep that Constitution intact. What the hell is a rock star wannabe like you doing preaching your lies and stupidity? No job yet?

      President Obama saved 8 million jobs when he had to duke it out with your Republican morons who unemployed them from 2004 to 2008 just to get them the unemployment extension they already paid for through payroll deductions.

      Men like you need lobotomies because you see it only YOUR way and assume the rest of must obey like good little puppies. You forget little wannabe rock star. There are many adults who paid their dues in life. You? All you do all day is sit on your butt making up wild eyed contortions and distortions.

      So he saved 1,000 jobs. President Obama single handedly saved the US auto industry which has tens of thousands of employees and related parts manufacturing businesses. Time for a little wannabe rock star like you to get out of your short pants. Angus Young you are not. Ted Nugent is more you low life style.

      • Jim Samaras says:

        Where’s my sammich? Mustard no mayo sweetheart

        • I Am Helpy says:

          Haha I get it! You hate women!

          • Jim Samaras says:

            No, I like effing with Ellie. I hate lil septic fillers like you

          • I Am Helpy says:

            Yeah you dull bigots always try to pass off your open racism or misogyny or whatever as something differnt. Dunno why, it never convinces anyone.

          • Jim Samaras says:

            I pass off the fact that you’re nothing but a septic filler pretty well! I have convinced MANY of that fact….with your HELPY of course

          • I Am Helpy says:

            Yeah, sorry you couldn’t come up with anything good. Better luck next abusive tirade!

          • Jim Samaras says:

            I abuse no one here but you! I bet you’re used to it too

          • I Am Helpy says:

            You literally just claimed your misogyny was just abuse of another poster.

            I mean, I get that you’re incredibly stupid – your claims about the jobs Trump is “saving” is proof enough of that – but this is like two posts up from here.

          • Jim Samaras says:

            Misogyny? I had no idea the lil septic filler was a squat to pee! Although I knew you were in reality I had no idea you were a woman. Misogyny has NOTHING to do with it! I, like Trump, do not suffer fools well and you certainly qualify as the biggest one on these boards male or female. I mean Ellie is one but nothing coming close to your magnitude. She is just a man hater….

          • I Am Helpy says:

            Yes I get that you’re really, really stupid, you hate women, and you’re super racist. You don’t need to reinforce any of those impressions.

          • I Am Helpy says:

            Also, this post is unintentionally HILARIOUS. “I’m not terrified of women! You have female attributes!!!1”

            I mean, holy crap. Confronted with you, Freud wouldn’t even bother doing more than roll his eyes meaningfully at onlookers.

      • CPANY says:

        Your diatribes are seldom to the point and serve only to enable you to vent your hatred of men.

      • InformedVoter says:

        Still spewing out your lies are you. Obama didn’t save any or create many new jobs. The true unemployment rate still stands near 11%, same as it was in 2008! Record number on welfare, record number on food stamps, record 20 trillion dollar debt, and a record 95 million US citizens not working.
        Saved the auto industry single handed? what a lie! It cost the tax payers billions for the debt not repaid. Those auto jobs would have remained in the US and gone to the surviving companies. No jobs were saved!
        Since you like to show off your penis envy, I suspect the reason you can’t grasp the truth is that you feel somehow cheated at birth. Your life has been a big disappointment because all you got for work were menial jobs. So you’ve blamed all your shortcomings on your lack of a penis. Why don’t you call Bill Clinton and see if he can donate some of his penis to make you fell better. Poor Elle!
        Better yet, why don’t you seek out one of those wimpy colleges who set up crying rooms so people could have a good cry over President Trump’s mandate.

        • I Am Helpy says:

          Hi InformedVoter! Just letting you know that – contrary to the latest ignorant drivel you’ve unfortunately posted – the auto industry bailout was, in fact, repaid (years ahead of schedule and at a profit of around $15 billion).

          Your cretinous lies about the “true” unemployment numbers, etc, are too stupid to even bother refuting.

          • InformedVoter says:

            Hey Helpy, the Pathetic Dummy and Liar; You’ve just redoubled your label as a LIAR.
            GM only repaid about 1/2 the money they borrowed (yes ahead of schedule, but that’s all they paid). Chrysler didn’t even pay half of what they owed. Hence, GM stiffed the tax payers for about $1 billion!
            So NO they did not repay the ENTIRE loan early – as they never repaid the entire loan and so NO the government did not make a profit (your $15 billion number is a total fabrication and LIE).
            And the fact that dpaano (the racist and bigot) and queenbee are as clueless as you for giving you a thumbs up on your LIES. Thanks for helping me prove that you lefties truly are low information.
            I’m still waiting for your proof that Deb didn’t resign because of the emails. I proved the Clintons and the news media were in bed with each other and published fake poll numbers. The NYT recently admitted they manipulated facts to discourage President Trump supporters from voting. The NYT knew early on (as I did) that President Trump was truly leading HilLIARy in the polls.
            Try checking out “shadow unemployment numbers”. These have been double what the media have been printing. They show that the true unemployment number has been around 11% for past 8-9 years. Hence, Obama’s failed economic policies did nothing to bring the country financially back. Record numbers on food stamps, record number on welfare, record number on aid, slowest, weakest, and worst recovery in history (HilLIARy’s own words).
            Better seek out that crying room soon.

          • I Am Helpy says:

            OK sorry that you feel the need to grasp at imaginary straws.

          • InformedVoter says:

            Hey Helpy, the Pathetic Dummy and now an ever bigger Liar,
            I’m still waiting for your “proof” that poor Deb didn’t resign over the leaked emails. Why would care? Because her resignation probably cost ole HilLIARy any chance of winning the election. The leaked emails proved that HilLIARy and the DNC could not be trusted! and the voters recoiled and swung to President Trump.
            So now I’m not only waiting for your proof about Deb’s resignation, but now I’m waiting for your “proof” that the US made $15 billion profit from the auto bailout. So far all I can hear is the Jeopardy music …. and silence.

          • I Am Helpy says:

            Are you having a stroke?

          • InformedVoter says:

            Hey Helpy, the Pathetic Dummy and even bigger Liar, So you still have not heard or accepted that old HilLIARy will still be old HilLIARy!
            I can see now why you low information Dems lost and big time!
            It’s taken you weeks to come up with your proof about Deb’s resignation. I’ve provided several sites proving my statements. I can’t help it if you don’t believe them.
            Maybe that’s why you don’t believe the election is over.
            You really need to get yourself to a crying room.

          • I Am Helpy says:

            Question still stands.

          • I Am Helpy says:

            PS did you ever find a quote to back up any of your dumb claims?

          • I Am Helpy says:

            I mean I guess that’s the angriest & longest way I’ve ever seen anyone admit they were totally wrong, so that’s something.

          • InformedVoter says:

            Hey Helpy, the Pathetic Dummy and Liar; You totally made up the “facts” in your GM post and now you’re too stupid to understand that you were trashed by the truth. The taxpayers took a large hit on the auto bailout. All those holding GM stock lost their money. Many of these were GM retirees. These former workers voted in large numbers for President Trump.
            And you helped proved my description of lefties as being low information when a couple of dummies supported your low information, full of BS, post. Dummy and Liar you are and looks like where you’ll remain.

          • I Am Helpy says:

            OK sorry you were wrong, again.

    • Wrily says:

      Trump didn’t save any jobs. He bought those jobs with Indiana tax payer’s money. Exactly what he promised us he would never do.

      Trump is nothing but a huckster and you fell for it again.

      • Jim Samaras says:

        He never said there would be no incentives! Bottom line will be more revenue in the coffers and jobs for Americans. You’ll see how smooth it goes. You guys should be talking about how that pancake face became your minority speaker again putting you farther away from the American public.

        • Wrily says:

          He most certainly did. He said NO tax breaks and promised a huge import duty to anything they tried to bring back into this country. He just plain LIED. You’re just to stupid to recognize it.

          • Jim Samaras says:

            No federal tax breaks other than the promised corporate rate. You sir are the stupid one who doesn’t know a good thing happening for the country when it happens. More important that he/she’s use the bathroom of choice I’m sure…much more inclusive… effing moron!

          • I Am Helpy says:

            “If they’re going to fire all their people, move their plant to Mexico,
            build air conditioners, and think they’re going to sell those air
            conditioners to the United States — there’s going to be a tax,” Trump
            said. Pressed on exactly what that tax would be, Trump replied, “It
            could be 25 percent, it could be 35 percent, it could be 15 percent — I
            haven’t determined.”

            – Trump, talking specifically about the multi-billion dollar company Carrier

            He just gave these people $7 million to ship twice as many jobs to Mexico than he is pretending to have “saved” (even though those jobs weren’t going anywhere). Why, it is almost like you are a gullible rube who can’t admit he was suckered by the most obvious con-man in history?

          • Jim Samaras says:

            Oh, I suppose the recorded meeting held at the corporation telling the workers of the proposed move was a lie to motivate employees huh? There were in fact MOVING dipstick! Now quit attempting to act like you know something and get back in the toilet doing your job.

          • I Am Helpy says:

            No, those jobs are still going to Mexico. The 800 jobs Trump “saved” were not going to go to Mexico till next year. According to the letter sent to those job-holders, their jobs will be going to Mexico… next year.
            Trump accomplished nothing except giving a multi-billion dollar company ten years of tax breaks.

            I hope that helps! Sorry that your vanity candidate is ineffectual!

          • I Am Helpy says:

            I mean, you are just making up stuff in exact opposition to things Trump has explicitly stated in the past.

            To be fair, though, Trump does the same every single day. Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

          • Wrily says:

            A tax break is a tax break. Trump specifically said NO tax breaks, that businesses didn’t want tax breaks. You are either a liar or an ignoramus, take your pick.

          • Jim Samaras says:

            I am neither. Trump, constitutionally, does not have the authority to dictate state taxes. So I guess that makes you the ignoramus.

          • Wrily says:

            Trump gave the order, Pence pulled the trigger. Trump is still guilty, but that was a nice try Jim.

        • I Am Helpy says:

          At the present rate, and pretending that this story is true, Trump might “save” as many jobs as Obama did in … let’s see… around two and a half centuries.

          I hope that helps!

        • itsfun says:

          Some people just can’t understand negotiation and compromise.

          • I Am Helpy says:

            Yeah, stupid liberals and their “Trump just gave $7 million dollars to a company to ship twice as many jobs to Mexico in exchange for a non-binding promise they’ll keep a couple jobs here for two years that they weren’t planning to export anyway.”

            Why, it is almost like they care about facts and not making stuff up!

      • itsfun says:

        Its called negotiation and compromise. Done in business every day. Used be done in Washington until Obama “my way or the highway” took over. President Trump get use to it.

      • Zengo says:

        I wonder if they will be the first corporation in a line of many to extort a 15% tax break to only take half the jobs out of the country

  2. 1standlastword says:

    Yeah…Just heard how deep he’s in (to the tune of billions) with Deutsche Bank, which is under litigation for fraudulent activity during the subprime and financial crisis.

    There is both a carrot and a stick here as Trump can finagle favorable terms for himself or Deutsche Bank can entice softening penalties by offering favorable terms for the POTUS account.

    Trump can now use his executive office to dissolve much or all of his debts in other places as well like China, Russia and gawd knows where else.

    And there is no doubt he won’t try since it is already a known fact that he is the king of bankruptcy

    It should be pretty easy for him with the station of the executive office under his prodigious butt cheeks.

    Being the president is going to be GREAT for the Trump fortunes….

    • Joan says:

      Did you miss that he also owes millions to Chinese banks and Eastern Europeans of dubious ethics? Did you also miss that the pay to play has already started and is not in the least bit subtle or even hidden; cause ya know, a President cannot have a conflict of interest.

      • 1standlastword says:

        Joan, the Trump administration might just reveal a criminal element operating at the core of our government so blazon that many will be inclined to loose heart and struggle not to fall into terminal apathy!!!!

        While this is happening, the effect of the Constitution will become diluted by the schemes of pernicious republicanism carried out mainly by avaricious rich white men “dealing” for themselves: nothing new about this EXCEPT this time the methods and the means are already availed at the very outset!!!!

        When these high crimes against the State begin to happen in earnest– the Party will become caught-up in a critical-decisional-dilemma to either draw articles of impeachment or double down in the action of partisanship

        The People–ALL THE PEOPLE– will have to struggle with a test of integrity which will compel some rational folks to abandon their partisan propensity for the welfare of the Republic and if that is too abstract, then simply for the security of the future of their children!

        • I Am Helpy says:

          Also the Trump administration might invent unicorns and give everyone free cocaine!

          J/K all the cocaine is for Donald now.

    • dpaano says:

      Plus, you have to look at the idiots that he’s nominated for his cabinet and the various departments. One of them even has ties to the banks that were causing the subprime and financial crisis, but now he’s going to have his hands in the cookie jar! I just find it totally unfathomable that his followers are so gullible that they don’t see that this, in itself, is a BIG problem. The people he’s bringing on board are the very ones that will benefit the most from their plans! Look at Price and Mnuchin?

      • 1standlastword says:

        I don’t blame Trump followers. They have suffered the worst and many of them were and are democrats and independents over 50 years old.

        That might sound shocking but hear me out.

        The republicans have demonstrated most effectively that they are tactically and strategically superior to democrats when it comes to winning elections.

        Truthfully, Mr. Obama hasn’t helped his party very much taking a “shellacking” in every mid-term since taking office. The democrats just don’t seem to support down ballot races like the GOP nor do they inspire their constituency like the republicans do and-that-is-why -today-they-are-inconsequential!

        I’m mad as hell for their apparent schemes that can be described as “cheating-to-lose” the 2016 campaign.

        Bill Clinton was so mad he and wife had it out. He revived the “it’s the economy stupid” barb before he pitched his cell phone over the deck:

        If American politics can be analogized as a battle between two warring factions then with the republican victories over the last 8-years “perfidy prevails”!!!

        If and when Trump and the republicans phuck up the country/ economy the question then becomes “who do we turn to?”

        • Jim Samaras says:

          “If and when” is the key there! What about if and when the economy soars like never before and the country regains sanity, then who do the democrats turn to to become relevant again is the real question?

          • I Am Helpy says:

            Oh right, so you’re a Bill Clinton fan? I mean, Obama was pretty good, fixing all the Bush damage, but that’s the last time the economy “soared like never before”.

            Who would have thought you were a Democrat?

          • 1standlastword says:

            If republicans improve the lives of Americans, I’ll take it.

            If they don’t then they should be held responsible by We the People and I presume that inclides you too. That you can take off your partisan lens

            We should “not” continue to hand them victories for abusing us!!!!

            Be an equal opportunity critic Jim. Honesty looks good on everybody–

          • Jim Samaras says:

            Traditional republicans or democrats will do nothing to help anyone but themselves. I think you’ll agree that Trump is neither. While he does represent the party I believe the old Republican party is DOA under a DT administration. With that said, he does have a like minded congress and should get his agenda passed without much opposition especially if he continues to take that message to We the People. I have no party preference and no affection for the Bushes or Clintons. I did vote for Obama in 08 and was disappointed that I did after his apology tour and it went downhill from there imo. I agree we should not just hand them victories without measurable positive results. However there are those who will judge success differently. If he does nothing for people who refuse to help themselves he will be judged by the left as racist and a bigot. Content of character regardless of skin color should be the order of the day. Imo, those who have the ability but no ambition should not be rewarded with government welfare and should be allowed to sink or swim. The difficult task is determining who has the ability and who really needs help which I think a Trump administration will disseminate. My hope is that he brings back opportunities for all those willing to work and sacrifice to get a leg up on the American dream.

            If he can accomplish that, bring sanity back to the streets, backup our police, repair our crumbling infrastructure and begin the arduous task of fixing the VA I will judge his presidency a success. I don’t believe these should be partisan issues. All Americans should have the same goals.

            If he does not, I will be as harsh a critic as anyone on this board but as I said beauty is in the eye of the beholder. How will you view a successful presidency?

          • 1standlastword says:

            A successful presidency will avoid engaging in unnecessary war and spare the economy and workers the ravages of recession. A successful presidency will support freedom, liberty and equal justice for all. A successful presidency will be tolerant of all peoples regardless of gender, sexual orientation, race, or creed. A successful presidency will heal our deep cultural divide by modeling patience, compassion, mercy, interest and faith in and for all Americans. It will keep us safe, prosperous, secure and healthy and give our children hope for their future.

            A successful presidency will be open and honest with us.

            How much of this do you think we can get from a Trump presidency?

          • Jim Samaras says:

            I think we’re on the same page. Healing our deep cultural divide with patience, tolerance and compassion has not worked and has been identified as weakness in the eyes of those who seek to take advantage of those American attributes. It may be time for a different approach. Some answers to keeping us safe, secure, prosperous and healthy can be seen as barbaric to the few who seek to reign chaos upon us and seem to permeate the MSM. Tough times sometimes call for tough measures but will fade away with time and as we get back to normal.

          • 1standlastword says:

            We are a complicated race that’s for sure. Let’s start normal as a personal responsibility. Nice chatting with ya

          • Jim Samaras says:

            Amen to that! It was a pleasure

      • GODBlessRealAmerica#1 says:

  3. An legal expert commented on the immense problems associated with Trump disentangling himself from his extracurricular self-aggrandizement ventures[my comment], and that it may take years to sort out the mess. He can sell off his holdings at drastically reduced prices(something the Donald isn’t designed mentally and emotionally to allow happen), or he can entrust his dealings to his relatives which still opens a can of worms.
    Had this been Obama or Clinton, there would be daily programming excoriating either, but for Donald his loyal followers will pretend that there’re no problems.
    The media, the GOP, and all others, who insisted on a thoroughly biased accounting of Hillary, are guilty of the most gross form of hypocrisy seen in decades.

    What has been sorely lacking these past 8 years at least is the lack of equity in applying justice. Justice has been lynched in favor of injustice, inequity, and partisanship.

  4. Theodora30 says:

    This is one of the few articles I have seen that points out the mainstream media spent over a year trashing the Clinton Foundation’s “optics” based on charges from a Breitbart author while ignoring Trump’s scam of a foundation, his massive actual, not perceived, conflicts of interest, and his other sleazy dealings until just this past summer. Now the MSM has the gall to blame fake news on social media for this debacle of an election.

  5. FireBaron says:

    Nope. These stories were always out there. The problem is the media, led by the New York Times and Washington Post printed every unsubstantiated rumor about Hillary as the gospel truth, giving every one of them banner headlines above the fold! Meanwhile, anything potentially negative about Teflon Donnie was relegated to inside, even-numbered pages below the fold and along the right edge.
    Psychologically, that is the portion of the newspaper that only front-to-back, top-to-bottom readers will even notice. 90% of the rest of the readers will ignore them as unimportant.
    Effectively, the Mainstream Media allowed themselves to be led by the nose by Teflon Donnie’s team, and now they have trouble explaining why they did so.

  6. Michael Allen says:

    The media focus on the Clinton Foundation was almost exclusively negative. Very little attention was given to the positive goals, efforts, and effects of the foundation.

  7. Eleanore Whitaker says:

    Think about this. Even if, for the sake of trying to trust a word out of Trump’s mouth, he manages to sever all ties to his businesses. They still exist and are fully profitable right?

    Okay, now he and Ryan are saying that they intend to make the US’s biggest tax cuts. How won’t that benefit his family businesses that will continue to bear his name?

    • dbtheonly says:

      Ms. Eleanore,

      Morning news has the story that “no elected official” is to be a party to the contract leasing the DC site to the Trump Hotel. Trump can’t be both landlord and tenant.

      Wonder which one he’ll punt.

      • Eleanore Whitaker says:

        He is using his “immunity clause” to avoid conflict of interest. He keeps saying there is no law that disallows him to continue to own businesses. But, he is already saying he plans to push the largest tax cut in US history, “larger than the Reagan tax cuts.”

        If he does and he or his family are in any way still owners of the Trump name on any business, he profits from those tax cuts.

        When Bush pushed that 2004 tax, 1 year later the GAO reported that the top 1% income earners with just that single tax cut, became 11% wealthier. So Trump, the Republicans and the right wing pull off a tax cut and it is proven that it has enrich the Trump business empire and he and the Republicans can be impeached according to the Emolument Clause and also under Article II, Sec. 4 as a form of bribery. As president, signing off on legislation is the same as agreeing to flush more profit to his personal business.

        Also, Trump went on a wild spending spree in the 90s against the advice of his own financial advisors. That left him with little credit with banks. So, he figured out that his name had dollar value more than building new buildings or buying up existing ones as part of his Trump real estate empire. This now means that anything with his name on it that earns him a single dime, would be a violation of his using his name as influence while he is president.

    • dpaano says:

      It will benefit it greatly…..along with benefiting all his billionaire cronies as well!

  8. rednekokie says:

    All of this chatter about what the NYTimes did or did not do is essentially hogwash. They had little effect upon the election, because the people who elected Trump do NOT read the NYTimes.

    The media which should be put to shame is the broadcast media, which went out of its way not only to give Trump huge amounts of free time, but actually encouraged his outrageous remarks in order to raise their own media ratings.

    Of course, I put Fox noise at the head of this list, but NBC, ABC, CBS (what’s left of it) and all the other TV talk shows and business nonsense, especially the cable and satellite news programs, are equally to blame. I predict they will woefully regret their stupidity and greed in the coming few years.

  9. jaynemcgill says:

    After 5 years I finally abandoned my office work and I never felt this good… I started doing a job from comfort of my home, for a company I found on-line, for a few hours daily, and I make much more than i did on my old work… Paycheck i got for last month was for 9 thousand bucks… Great thing about this is that i have more time for my loved ones…

  10. Apostol Pappas says:

    No doubt Trump is never going to get anything right on this website.

  11. CPANY says:

    The quality of this site was always dragged down by jerks like Eleanor Whittaker, but lately, additional idiots seem to have signed on.

  12. The NYT didn’t bother to dig into Trump’s business connections because they were too busy telling us Hillary was going to win.

    They and all the polls that told us the election was already decided should, in hindsight, be called “fake news sites”.

    • I Am Helpy says:

      This is the same NYT that spent the last few years posting fake stories about her emails and the Clinton Foundation?

      • dpaano says:

        And, forgot several times to bring up all the facts about the alleged “Trump Foundation” and all the problems that were found with this group. They glossed over that very nicely, but went full force against Hillary and the Clinton Foundation! It amazes me! But, as we’ve been told, even if they had delved into the Trump conflicts of interest, his followers tend NOT to read past the headlines anyway.

      • GODBlessRealAmerica#1 says:

        Sorry you’re an idiot!

      • GODBlessRealAmerica#1 says:

        keep hope alive!!!

    • Diane says:

      Paul, I recommend you search NYT’s archive on Clinton. They’ve lied about her more than once. More than a dozen times on crucial issues. Don’t pretend NYT is one of your “liberal” press.

  13. Steve Thompson says:

    WOW! Talk about distorting the facts and already attempting to rewrite history into Hillary’s Her Story! The MSM –CNN, WaPo, NYT, MSNBC, ABC, AP, etc., just to name a very few– went out of their way to be complicit with the Clinton DNC crime syndicate and the narrative of both the DNC and the sitting Government under Obama as if it the MSM was their personal marketing and propaganda department. CNN, MSNBC and the NYT have been caught actually being in collusion with Clinton, the DNC and Obama concerning the election. Then the MSM gave Trump over a billion dollars in free advertising covering every single thing he said and did as well as his supporters. Yet they gave Sanders and his supporters zero credence and actually spread lies about Sanders and his supporters as well as colluded with the DNC to subvert his supporters exercising their First Amendment rights at the DNC Convention in Philadelphia this summer. Yet this rag article and NYT proposes that the MSM somehow did its due diligence in investigating Clinton and exposing her scandals in a true investigative journalistic manner? Hogwash! They covered them up and were involved in them! What country do they live in because it sure was not the USA we all saw and lived through. And while they did all this against the populace while pretending to be a “free and independent and objective press”, they were too busy shoveling horse manure that “THEIR” candidate Clinton, was already the winner in bogus polls. The MSM practiced blatant disregard for the true major story of the election season which was that the populace was and still is overwhelmed by and completely, “fed up” with the very nondemocratic and corporate fascist government and its terribly outdated electoral system. Over 18 months of total nonsense from the MSM, the DNC, and the RNC as to how much the nation despises them all and they still cannot get it! Even when they do finally go after Trump’s financial dealings with the same people that Clinton did the same with, they pretend that Clinton was absolved of her scandals. MSM – What joke! A really, really bad, bad joke!

  14. I Am Helpy says:

    So it turns out that Carrier – a company that makes 7.6 billion dollars a year – has been given ten years of tax breaks to keep 800 jobs in the US for two years… and it’s not even going to do that. One year, 800 jobs – and 1300 moving to Mexico immediately.

    Trump is going to be worse for the economy than President Cheney was.

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