Smart. Sharp. Funny. Fearless.
Friday, October 21, 2016

Visit for breaking news, world news, and news about the economy

Last week, Virginia’s attorney general and Republican gubernatorial nominee Ken Cuccinelli raised a little stir when he launched a website to defend his state’s “crimes against nature” anti-sodomy law.

“Cooch,” as he’s known, argues that this law will protect minors from sexual predators, claiming that 90 “sexual predators” could be freed if the law, which has been ruled unconstitutional, isn’t enforced. Taking on sodomy is just part of the Republican’s arcane social agenda. He’s compared abortion to slavery and needed to have a bare breast covered on Virginia’s state seal.

Republicans say that Cuccinelli’s Democratic opponent, Terry McAuliffe, hasn’t taken a position on the actual law, but through spokesman Josh Schwerin called for the state’s laws to be updated.

“As he admitted as recently as 2009, Ken Cuccinelli is one of the only elected officials in America who believes that being gay should result in criminal prosecution and jail time. Cuccinelli’s refusal to support a mainstream legislative update to Virginia laws reflects his extreme agenda and uncompromising approach,” Schwerin added.

MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell dissected the law last week in the clip above, pointing out that it would make anything other than genital-to-genital sex a felony, even for married couples.

And on Monday, the story hit the big time: ABC’s The View.

Cuccinelli is becoming a national laughingstock because his embrace of the anti-sodomy law is backed up by his dated anti-gay views, which he stood by in a debate against McAuliffe last Saturday.

“My personal beliefs about the personal challenge of homosexuality haven’t changed,” he said.

This view was articulated in 2008 when Cuccinelli said, “When you look at the homosexual agenda, I cannot support something that I believe brings nothing but self-destruction, not only physically but of their soul.”

When The View’s audience heard this, they laughed.

Screen Shot 2013-07-22 at 2.46.30 PM

Click here for reuse options!
Copyright 2013 The National Memo
  • Mortalc01l

    I have always maintained that Republicans are in fact the most deviant, perverse, twisted, repressed and sick people in the USA; how to explain their fascination with other people’s sex lives; their obsession with bea5tiality and anal sex and gays, their ongoing desire to put their heads into other people’s wives vaginas???

    They COULD be working on jobs bills, or financial reform, but they are more concerned that Bob and Jim could be giving each other blow jobs than they are about the welfare of children, or about funding cancer research.

    Seriously; what with their fixation on abortion, anal sex, blwojobs and best1ality, how do they have any time to actually think about things OTHER than sex??

    • bpai99

      Remember that many conservatives in the US are Christian, and the essence of Christianity is the suspicion that someone, somewhere is enjoying themselves too much and needs to be stopped.

      From the TV show “What’s My Line?” circa 1952:

      Contestant (a Catholic priest): “Mr. Marx, I want to thank you for all the joy you’ve brought to this world.”
      Groucho Marx: “And I’d like to thank you for all the joy you’ve taken out of this world.”

      • ORAXX

        I think you’re referring to the show, “You Bet Your Life”.

        • RobertCHastings

          I also hear that Groucho was credited with this one:
          Groucho (to contestant) “and how many children do you have?”
          contestant “Groucho, I have twelve children.”
          Groucho “I love my cigars, but I take them out of my mouth occasionally”.
          You just got to love him.

      • Vazir Mukhtar

        H. L. Menckin had a similar thought: “Puritanism: the haunting fear that someone, somewhere is having a good time.”

    • tax payer

      Others have also always said the same thing about DemocRats.

  • dtgraham

    It wasn’t mentioned here and rarely seems to get mentioned, but that “Crimes against Nature” bill also seeks to ban adult consensual oral sex for both straight and gay couples as well as anal sex. I had a funny chat with another poster some months back concerning this Virginia bill. He/she wanted to know what a parole hearing for a sodomist would look like. I had my own scenario of how an adult consensual oral sex parole hearing would go, but no need to repeat it. This is so bizarro that it’s one of those ‘insert your own joke here’ or ‘add your own punchline’ kind of thing. It’s too easy.

    • latebloomingrandma

      And how does “Cooch” choose to enforce these laws or discover who is committing said offenses? Is he volunteering to be the spy-in-chief? Methinks he doth protest too much. If someone checked his personal computer, I’ll bet there’s some choice porn sites on there. All in the spirit of “research”, I’m sure.

      • MasterWes

        Probably taking pictures outside of gay bars and comparing them agianst driver’s license records?

        • stcroixcarp

          I think he is planning to use little drones armed with cameras to peek in bedroom windows and parked cars.

        • RobertCHastings

          The NSA is already on top of that, monitoring everyone who is “sexting”.

      • dtgraham

        Ha! Yes, just “research” of course. You never know lateblooming. A bitter ex could claim to have been coerced in some way into this illegal activity and is now remorseful, and wants the authorities to know about his/her ex…as far out as that seems. Let’s hope a little lip lovin’ is covered in the Bill of Rights.

    • BillP

      Great post, I believe many conservatives believe sodomy is only between 2 same sex people. It always makes me wonder that the party that wants less gov’t involvement but only in business. When it comes to personal matters they want total control. Your adult consensual oral sex parole hearing scenario has me trying to come up with some good dailogue

      • dtgraham

        Ok BillP, you talked me into it. This is what I imagined months ago for an oral sex parole hearing. “Ladies and gentlemen of the parole board.” “I’ve truly been rehabilitated and intend to change my life.” “Please allow me to reveal the fullness of my desires and give all of you a taste of what’s to come.”

        • patuxant

          I know…I know.. It’s been two months since you posted this, but you made me laugh for the first time this morning! Thanks!

          • dtgraham

            You’re welcome. I made myself laugh when I posted it. Life must be getting to me.

    • RobertCHastings

      Criminalize oral sex? Well, teens in Virginia just can’t get it any way, can they. It should prevent the spread of some oral cancers caused by HPV, though.

  • holyreality

    Apparently, Virginia is not for lovers.

    • dtgraham

      Boring ones maybe.

    • patuxant

      That’s a given!

    • Dave Bostwick

      They are lovers of Christ,,, just not people!

  • Lynda Groom

    Cucc clearly has no idea of the definition of sodomy. His dislike of gays has clouded his judgment in hate, distrust and fear. The man’s moral compass is spinning out of control. The voters of the state seem to finally caught on to this flimflam man, if the polls are to be believed.

    • patuxant

      CooKoo probably has had his share of blow jobs and has many other skeltons in the closet I would guess. Anyone so paranoid as this guy is hiding something.

  • Dominick Vila

    Cuccinelli is a member of a dying breed of people who remain intent in preserving, and in some cases resurrecting, values and concepts that have been abandoned by most Americans and people worldwide. From irrational statements such as comparing abortion to slavery, to finding a female breast obscene, these Neanderthals are the best hope Democrats have to keep control of the Senate and gain a few seats in the House in 2014, and win the 2016 election by a landslide.
    The problem afflicting the GOP is not conservatism, the way most of us understood conservatism a few decades ago, but the extreme positions taken by Tea Party supporters who unabashedly want to take our country backwards instead of forward.

    • tax payer

      Breasts are Obscene, when they fall to the Chest and don’t point straight anymore, but women still think we want to see them.

      • MasterWes

        So, you don’t want to see breasts? Guess what you need is a good hearty six pack. Supporting the Governor wannabe from the closet, perchance?

        • tax payer

          It depends because would you want to see one of an 80 year old woman? I don’t think so unless you work in a Nursing Home.

          • roguerunners

            The definition of ignorance: tax payer.

          • RobertCHastings

            An old woman who was distraught over the death of her husband went to see her doctor and asked him “Doctor, can you tell me precisely where my heart is, it is just so painful right now.”
            The doctor’s response was, “It is located just two inches below your left nipple.”
            Later that evening the woman was taken to the ER with a bullet wound in her left knee.

          • MO

            So, if you and your wife are lucky enough to live til 80,you will kick her to the curb because she won’t have stayed young and perky? Nice values.

          • Russell Byrd

            From earlier conversations with tax payer, I can attest that he would do exactly that. He is God’s gift, not only to women, but to the whole world. Makes you wonder why he bothers conversing with the untermensch in this blog.

          • tax payer

            I have often asked that same question to myself.

          • clazman

            When are you going to learn? Or is that beyond your reach Mentally.that is

          • patuxant

            Some men are just dumbasses arent they?

          • patuxant

            Wait until the day they can’t get the old woodie to stand upright!

          • tax payer

            Mr. Viagra ( I heard ) does wonders.

          • clazman

            Again, physical worship. I don’t believe that Jesus would concur. .

          • clazman

            Didn’t Newt, for one, do that?

      • highpckts

        What a supremely ignorant person you are!

      • Landsende

        And a beer belly hanging over your belt and man boobs are so sexy.

        • tax payer

          I weigh 165 and I am 5′ 8″ tall, and don’t drink any Alcohol, so you won’t see any Beer Belly on me. People that drink alcohol have weak minds and they feel they have to be drunk to enjoy life.

          • Jim Myers

            Would that be a reference to Boehner and McConnell?

          • tax payer

            No! Only letting ( Landsende ) know not everyone has a Beer Belly that comments here.

          • RobertCHastings

            And you just did – what? Commented?

          • patuxant

            What does that have to do with anything?

          • RobertCHastings

            Sounds like profiling. Many people have the ability to control their intake of this noxious substance and suffer no ill effects from it, either physically, emotionally, or psychologically. Those who are unable to control themselves in regard to this central nervous system suppressant may fall under your prejudice.

          • Russell Byrd

            But you have a weak mind without any assistance. . . .

          • patuxant

            One day you will start to sag in places you never thought you would. Then what will you say hotshot?

      • clazman

        are you an item!!!!! Wait ’til your manhood no longer comes to attention.

        But you will be the first in line for augmentation be it chemical or otherwise. But, then, that is perversion at its best

        Oh, I believe it is called … aging.

  • TheGorf

    The truly threatening thing about guys like this is that they get themselves elected — which means that the (presumably) intelligent majority of voters don’t care enough to vote (or maybe the UN-intelligent have become the majority). I have Republican friends, (normal, rational, inteliligent folks) who claim to see any number of such whackos in the Demlocratic rolls. We don’t hear about them because, they insist, the main stream media doesn’t tell us about them. (Except Fox News, of course)

    Imagine yourself as having unlimited powers of persuasion. How do you go about installing a modicum of rationality into our political process? Almost makes me feel sorry for the few honest, out-numbered. politicians.

  • JohnRNC

    So, if I read this right, it’s currently within the law to sodomize minors in VA?

    Speaking of Sodomy – US House Republicans released a
    draft appropriations bill that would cut the Environmental Protection
    Agency’s budget by 34 percent compared to the fiscal 2013 enacted level and restrict the agency’s ability to implement air and water quality regulations. The House Appropriations Committee said in a July 22 statement that the
    bill represents “significant efforts to rein in the EPA.”

    So – Here in a nutshell we have the core values of the Republican Party:
    We will regulate your personal behavior (including sex, birth control, medical procedures, marriage, etc.)
    But we will not regulate our collective impact on the quality of out water & air.

    Utopia is right around the corner!

    • springerj

      Any kind of sex by an adult with a minor is already illegal. I believe Cooch wants consensual oral or anal sex to be illegal, regardless of hetero- or homosexuality. The “juvenile” aspect is a red herring.

      • Russell Byrd

        I think in Virginia the age of consent is 16. So, in reality, that is another law he is trying to rewrite through stealth.

  • MasterWes

    Riddle me this, Batman – if his ideas become law, does that mean that it will be illegal for any of the Tea Party agenda to become law in Virginia?

  • Lovefacts

    Sigh. As a Virginian, I can say without fear Cooch is an embarrassment. We all know he’s a moron. While this article makes fun of his stand on sodomy and homosexuality, it’s nothing compared to his view on women’s reproductive rights.

    A perfect example of his problems with women is his reaction to the partially nude–one breast exposed–of the female figure on the Commonwealth’s shield. The figure represents the Roman virtue of Virtus. That it’s embarrassed him so he’s had pins he wore made with her breast covered tells it all.

    FYI: Virtus is the Roman “virtue” of peace, figure of peace, valor, manliness, excellence, courage, character, and worth, standing in a pose which indicates a battle already won with her weapons pointed downward. It was used by the Roman emperors as a personal deity.

    The engravings of the shield were initially bronze medals designed by Thomas Jefferson, then the governor of Virginia, and carried by Joseph Martin to be given to our colonial Cherokee allies. This design has been in existence since 1780. Strange that the Puritan attitudes of 1780 didn’t have a problem with Virtus’ partially disrobed body, yet in 2013 Cooch finds it pornographic.

    Cooch’s thinking is worse than that found in the Dark Ages. I suspect the man would find statues of Venus Rising and David vulgar also.

    Here’s hoping the Commonwealth voters show up in Nov and kick the moron onto the unemployment roles.

    • RobertCHastings

      Brookgreen Gardens, just south of Myrtle Beach, in South Carolina, has an extensive collection of beautiful bronze statues, many of which are naked or partially naked women. In the 1970’s my grandmother accompanied us on a trip to the Gardens and expressed her plans to establish a fund to clothe these statues. She was a delightful woman.

    • patuxant

      Great comment! This coochie-coo guy is a real cracker. What platform is he running on? His own delicate sensibilities? This is not a person to be in politican office much less spewing his “morality” views all around the state. Pathetic worm of a person. And you know what? I would bet he engages in bestiality himself…of course not with his wfe but some hooker. HAHA!

    • CherokeeNative

      People underestimate the dominionist influence in the U.S. Congress. Dominionism is about the loss of choices. Battles are underway to take away our choices from how we conceive children to how we die. In the words of the Christian Coalition field director, Bill Thomson, the “leftist” foes should be destroyed: “You’re going to run over them. Get around them, run over the top of them, destroy them – whatever you need to do so that God’s word is the word that is being practiced in Congress, town halls and state legislatures. That’s your job.”

      Dominionists have lost their hold on the White House, so they have turned their focus towards Congress and the State legislatures. Now, conservatives are ANGRY! Republicans are OUTRAGED! The supposedly “grassroots” Tea Party is FURIOUS! Why? GAY MARRIAGE and ABORTION and SHARIA LAW!!! Just as in 2004, a flailing economy and two wars (and two half-wars) just aren’t as important as stopping these supposed engines of social destruction. Yes, these issues took a back seat to the economy for the 2010 elections but what did the newly triumphant GOP House majority tackle once it took power? Did they immediately focus on the economy and create millions of jobs? No. They attacked gay and reproductive rights and held hearings on encroaching Sharia.

      We need to stop using terms such as “Christian,” “conservative” and most of all “moral,” and start calling the dominionist movement what it is. Chip Berlet and Margaret Quigley, senior analysts at Political Research Associates, suggest the term “theocratic right:” The predominantly Christian leadership envisions a religiously-based authoritarian society; therefore we prefer to describe this movement as the “theocratic right.”

      There IS a method to the madness of the GOP. It is not just conservative politics that are driving us to ruin, but a concerted effort from a group of deeply disturbed fanatics. Will they succeed in instituting Biblical law? Of course not, but they will do incalculable damage in the meantime. They will squander billions of dollars in tax payer money and resources and ruin the lives of millions with their radical agenda. For that alone, they need to be understood and stopped.

  • JDavidS

    I believe this is also the RepubliCON/Tea Clown who wants to make oral sex illegal. And they claim to want smaller, less intrusive government? Just how does he propose to enforce any of this stupidity? Oh…wait… Maybe like ole Mitts’ “self-deportation”… “Officer, you best arrest me and my teenaged girlfriend…We went down on each other last night…” Nope, can’t see any problems here.

  • latebloomingrandma

    And here I thought “crimes against nature” would include fracking, not f**king.

    • RobertCHastings


    • dtgraham

      Double ouch! Now that’s crimes against nature. Well put.

    • patuxant

      Perfect LBG!

  • bestofandy

    Is this saying something about the poor educational system of Virginia, OR WHAT????

  • tdm3624

    How can Republicans be against the government spying on us with drones when they want to spy on what we do (consensually of course) in the bedroom?

    • RobertCHastings

      Excellent point.

  • Pamby50

    I saw Lawerence’s show last week & laughed. Listening to the ladies on the view even more hilarious. Virginia is not for lovers brought to you by Ken Cuchinelli. He needs to go just like governor ultra sound.

  • howa4x

    It is the states that will kill any attempt by the national GOP to moderate their views. Cooch is just one in a line of state officials who never got the GOP memo to avoid social issues. Perry in Texas championed the closing of Planned parenthood, Ohio is following up with vaginal ultra sound. Arizona had Sheriff Arpio yapping away on immigration along with many other house members. The reality is that the republican base is backward in social thinking and politicians climb over themselves to pander to them. I think it’s great. Republicans may never win another national election until the base dies off.

    • patuxant

      True, but the base is being replaced by the idiots—TPers

  • MO

    I find it fascinating how many conservative “Christians” completely ignore the Biblical definition of sodomy as found in the book of the prophet Ezekiel: ‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.” (Ez. 16:49)

    • howa4x

      By that definition all the republicans should be called sodomists. They seem to be arrogant, overfed and unconcerned with anyone making under 6 figures.

      • VivaSam

        That applies to a lot of Liberal Democrats as well.
        They ride around in limosines and throw other peoples money out the windows. Their own stashes safe and secure in offshore banks.
        Bill Maher is a corporation.

        • howa4x

          Hey idiot romney stashed 250 million in switzerland , bermuda, and the caymans, his company, bain capital helped thousands of clients do the same offshoring of funds. He was no liberal, just another tax cheating republican

          • VivaSam

            howa4x…yew just plain dont get it, do ya?
            I’ll grant you that…..Romney does have millions stashed overseas…..but your dum ash is voting for Democrats that do exactly the same thing!!!

          • Independent1

            Yes, VivaSam, there are corrupt Democrats just like there are corrupt Independents, Libertarians, Republicans and others; BUT, none of the others has turned robbing taxpayers blind into their party’s major focus. Everything, and I mean Everything the GOP has done since Reagan was in office has been hellbent on transferring as much taxpayer money as possible into the pockets of people that already have more money than they have ever deserved in this life. Today, the GOP is absolutely no different than the Italian Mafia – the only difference is that the GOP pretends to do it legally by passing laws that allow the already wealthy to shift, protect and amass every cent they can drag out from the unfortunates less rich than they are: be it by starting a war so the billionaires involved in the defense industry can rip off the taxpayers by overcharging for everything associated with running a war; be it by adding a drug benefit to Medicare with the previso that the government can’t negotiate drug prices so the drug industry can pocket more of our elderly citizens money, be it by trying to privatize social security and every other government program so companies in other industries can rip off our citizens – whatever it is the GOP is pushing – it’s all about Money. Why else would virtually every Republican candidate sign a pledge to a rich old fool vowing that they won’t vote for anything that raises taxes by $1??? It’s got nothing to do with doing what’s best for one’s constituents or the country – it’s all about doing what’s best for the candidate’s and his support donors’ pocketbooks first -to hell with the country and it’s citizens as long as my pockets are full.

          • VivaSam

            Talk about “willing suspension of disbelief”.
            You seem to think that rich republicans are worse than rich democrats.
   are one clueless induvidual.
            I feel sad for you.

          • ococoob

            Can’t you spell right? You don’t make any sense.

    • VivaSam

      MO…dont be simple-minded. There are numerous words translated in the bible with different meanings.
      In Genisis….”Sodom” is a city or a kingdom. And that is the reference that the religious folks are drawing from.
      Stop behaving like a self-absorbed idiot. You’re as bad as the zealots.

      • Independent1

        This time you’re the simple-minded VivaSam – God was talking about the CITY SODOM when he called it – “your sister Sodom”. (Being a sister to the CITY of Jerusalem). In His statement, He’s talking about the fact that people of that city (Sodom) are arrogant, overfed and unconcerned – Just like TODAY’S REPUBLICANS!!! who appear to be totally unconcerned that they are acting JUST LIKE the Pharisees of Jesus time – heading straight to damnation because they think they have all the answers which are totally MISGUIDED (and just like with the Pharisees – their hearts appear to have been hardened.)

  • RobertCHastings

    Robin R. Meyers, a minister for the Unitarian Church in Oklahoma, has found that there is nothing at all mentioned in the Old Testament regarding homosexuality, let alone how homosexual acts have any effect on our immortal souls.

    • howa4x

      Before the term sodomy was invented, the practice was used as birth control. So Cooch how about that, an answer to abortion.

      • RobertCHastings

        Sex, regardless of the actual act, is, for humans, much better when practiced as part of a loving relationship, regardless of the orientation of the participants. It is much, much more than a mere drive to reproduce, and conservative arguments to the contrary, sex between people who love one another is an entirely private matter, not something the state needs to be intruding upon.

  • VivaSam

    Robert Sarvin. The Next Governor of Virginia.
    Problem Solved.

  • VivaSam

    Who cares what Cucinelli thinks?
    Hes a beltway bandit…..we all know he could care less about any Virginian that lives outside of Fairfax County……
    McCauliffe is even worse.
    The intelligent choice.

  • sam garvaux

    I thought, once long, long ago that we had progressed somewhat from the dark ages.

    Incontravertable proof exists that I was wrong: We keep electing non-reasoning, racist, reactionary individuals to represent us in our self-governance, ie: local, state and federal; which proliferates further by their actions, ie: legislation and appointments, all the way to our most high arbiter-the Supreme Court of these United States.

    Now. Where, oh where, did I hide my leopard loincloth and my club?

  • MichelleRose3

    Bachmann. Santorum. Cuccinelli. Will someone please stop flipping over rocks? It seems that’s where these damned fools originate.

    Why are they so obsessed with other’s sex lives? Possibly because they have none of their own. I mean, seriously. Would YOU sleep with any of them? (Yes, I know: Palin is supposed to be the ultimate in MILFs, but she gives me a serious case of the creeps every time she opens her mouth) I’m reminded of a comment that George Carlin made about purloined male appendages, but I regret that I can’t repeat that here. This is a family website, supposedly.

    Control means just that: control of EVERYTHING. The GOP wants its sticky little fingers in each and every aspect of our lives and their talk of “small government” is pure BS. The only thing the GOP wants uncontrolled is big business ‘cuz that’s where the money is, boys and girls.

    Consider also that these nutcases were elected by other nutcases. We don’t like to talk about it, but a seriously significant fraction of our country’s population is either absolutely insane or dangerously ignorant. There is a VERY good reason for this:

    Media. Fox News and the so-called “conservative talk radio”, to be more precise. For the last two decades, we’ve watched that particular tumor grow inside the American body politic and we’ve stood by, doing nothing. We have listened to their lies and twisted disinformation and we shook our heads, marveling that so many people could be so stupidly mistaken and downright cruel. Roger Ailes, Limbaugh and his cronies have all contributed to this notion of “news as entertainment”. In entertainment, you give the audience what they want to hear and see. What does that say about Americans in general when Fox’s viewer share is so consistently high?

    It says that there are a lot of racist, bigoted, cruel, and downright terrified American citizens out there. Consider also that a lot of them are religious fundies who are absolutely convinced that the Rapture is going to occur, real soon now, and it’s every Christian’s responsibility to enable that event.

    (If that’s so, then why does Glenn Beck keep trying to sell us gold? How useful is gold in Heaven? Just wonderin’…)

    We let Fox and the conservatives make a mockery out of the concept of accurate and impartial journalism. I don’t know about y’all, but I wanna puke every time I hear a Fox talking head say: “Some people say…” and then follow it up with a patently outrageous lie intended to provoke people (and sell advertising time).

    We let them get away with it. Now the landscape of journalism is forever tainted. We have no one but ourselves to blame. But we can recover that, if we’re willing to put the screws to Congress and make them change the laws.

    Which will happen about the same time corporate law gets a new definition of “fiduciary responsibility.”

    Don’t hold your breath, waiting for that.