By Gene Lyons

Why The Tea Party Really Hates Obamacare

September 25, 2013 12:00 am Category: Memo Pad, Politics 188 Comments A+ / A-
Why The Tea Party Really Hates Obamacare

First they lie to you, and then they ask you for money.

That’s the essence of the great Tea Party/Ted Cruz crusade to “defund” Obamacare, a political and constitutional impossibility. The question was settled, probably for good, when President Obama won re-election in 2012 and Democrats kept control of the Senate.

Instead, it’s about TV face-time and harvesting donations from gullible voters misled both about the Affordable Care Act itself and Sen. Cruz’s nonexistent chances of ending it.

Amid all the melodramatic TV chatter, the estimable blogger Digby puts it in terms everybody should understand. She has a friend in the insurance industry whose company has been getting thousands of calls from frightened policyholders who fear that the hullabaloo in Washington could result in their losing health coverage.

“I asked her what calmed people down,” Digby writes “and she says she tells everyone to think about their high school civics class and remember that laws have to be passed by both houses and signed into law by the president. Without proselytizing at all, everyone immediately realizes what an absurd exercise in futility all this nonsense really is.”

A narrow Republican majority in the House can’t void the Affordable Care Act any more than 54 Senate Democrats can force everybody in Oklahoma to eat broccoli. Anybody who tells you differently is a flim-flam artist.

Such as Newt Gingrich. The presiding genius of the 1996 GOP government shutdown went on ABC’s This Week to deliver pseudo-historical profundity: “Under our constitutional system going all the way back to Magna Carta in 1215, the people’s house is allowed to say to the king we ain’t giving you money.”

Actually, the U.S. Constitution of 1789 makes no provision for a king. Neither, as former Clinton labor secretary Robert Reich has reminded Gingrich, does it “allow a majority of the House of Representatives to repeal the law of the land by defunding it. If that were the case, no law [would be] safe.”

No federal court could rule otherwise. It’s a separation of powers issue. These principles are so fundamental to American governance that even the Wall Street Journal reminds GOP hotheads that for all the three-ring thrills provided by Sen. Cruz and his allies, “the only real way to repeal the law is to win elections.”

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  • Dominick Vila

    The mere idea that a government program may be more cost-effective and inclusive than the draconian medical system it is going to replace is offensive and unacceptable to those who only see evil and waste in everything our government does, even when they benefit from the institutions they hate.
    In this specific instance, the ideological bias is compounded by the fact that the alternative to an expensive and ineffective system was proposed and signed by the first black President in U.S. history. The latter is the ultimate insult for those who unabashedly voice their desire to go back to the good old days…when we all knew our place in society and when the majority ruled.
    For Tea Party supporters, opposition to Obamacare goes well beyond cost and effectiveness matters, it involves the restoration of a way of life that belongs in the history books, and a reminder to those who because of their ethnicity, gender, and financial means do not deserve to be taken seriously. In a nutshell, the infamous 47%.

    • Bill Boltz

      What you say is no doubt true and well covered, Dominick. For myself, I can’t help believing these assholes (Tea Party congressmen and women and their supporters) are pure, unadulterated BIGOTS! They hate our President because he’s black and the poor for being poor.

      • Eleanore Whitaker

        When you are a shill on the Kochian payroll, you lie, cheat, deceive, create fear and any other vice that gets the desired result.

        • Bill Boltz

          Well, he’s certainly earning his pay today, Miss Eleanore.

          • Eleanore Whitaker

            All they prove is how low they will stoop for money. It’s obvious they have so little self-respect left that they are willing to compromise what remains.

          • Bill Boltz

            I guess it’s easier than streetwalking.

          • Eleanore Whitaker

            Cruz IS streetwalking like a dockside harlot. He’s spilling his guts for CanOil and the Keystone pipeline. All while TX Big Oil is dancing a jig at Cruz’s acrobatics to get the ACA funding swayed to Keystone.

          • Bill Boltz

            Trouble is….it won’t work. I think he just wants to make a name for himself. But, what kind of name????

          • Dominick Vila

            You hit the nail on the head. Cruz is trying to restore credibility after making a statement that angered the Tea Party rank and file. He is also trying to remain relevant and help promote a candidacy that will lead nowhere. The last thing the GOP establishment will do is nominate a controversial man, with dubious credentials – and a foreigner to boot – to be their nominee in 2016.

          • Bill Boltz

            Hear Hear!!! As crazy as this collection of Republicans have been behaving…..who knows?

          • idamag

            Depends on what color the foreigner is.

          • Earlene Walker

            Don’t count on it. The Tea Party seems to be in control of the “Good O’l Boys”, the Republicans now. They will do as their outside money-men, tell them to do. Make fools of our country & it’s people.

          • idamag

            Streetwalkers are more honest. You know what they are. They don’t try to hide behind a screen of lies.

          • tax payer

            Streetwalkers will give you something you don’t want to catch for being unfaithful. You will pass it to your wife or husband and he or she will pass it on to her or his lover, and so on. An epidemic that starts with two people will affect maybe two dozen people or more in one week. So, be smart and don’t hire a streetwalker for you enjoyment.

          • Annemb

            They have stooped so low they need to climb a ladder to look a worm in the eye.

            It’s greed!
            “… For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil…” 1 Timothy 6.10 NRSV

            Great post!

          • Mark Forsyth

            To quote a popular phrase:”They are lower than snake shit”

          • Annemb

            Well, now I like that!

          • Ford Truck

            My grandpa used to say “Lower than worm shit.”

      • tax payer

        I woke up this morning and there he was talking and he looks like he has just started, so good for him. We Texans are proud of our Senator and that’s why we voted for him. He is what every State should have including the Democrats, but not all can be so lucky.

        • Bill Boltz

          Thank God for my bad luck.

        • Billie

          I am a Texan and Crazy Cruz is nothing more than an elitist asshole.

          • plc97477

            And as far as I am concerned that gives him too much credit.

          • idamag

            I am sorry that you have to live in Texas where they censor textbooks.

        • morbius777

          This is why a applaud you and a few other states efforts to secede. The sooner you leave, the better off all the rest of us will be.

          • tax payer

            There is no way these States can secede from the USA. It’s all talk, but it will never happen, so they need to stop thinking it can be done because as I mentioned it’s never going to happen in this lifetime. We are one Nation and will continue to be ( like it or not ).

          • morbius777

            Don’t be so sure. Stranger things have happened. We are not now, nor ever have been a “united” states.

          • tax payer

            Some are now calling our country ” UGA “.

          • Bill Boltz

            Just like Cruz trying to stop the ACA. It will never happen…”so they need to stop thinking it can be done because as I mentioned it’s never going to happen in this lifetime.” Isn’t that what you just said????? Spoken like a true GOP supporter, tax payer.

          • tax payer

            Secede from the Union has nothing to do with Obamacare, so are you still asleep?

          • Bill Boltz

            I’m sorry, tax payer…my reply went over your head. I meant to simply tie your words about secession to the words the GOP have been saying all along about the FUTILE EXERCISE idiot Cruz is displaying.

          • plc97477

            I would even offer to help.

          • idamag

            Save the taxpayers a lot of money if Texas secedes.

          • tax payer

            If we were to secede we would deport all the illegals to your State because we would have the same Immigration Policy as Mexico. Enjoy them because half of our State is composed of illegals. You are sweating, but don’t worry we are staying put.

          • morbius777

            I’m not sweating at all. Illegals are not coming here or anywhere else in the US when your paying US workers at the current minimum wage. My only question is: are you a member of the 1%, a John Bircher or just stupid?

          • tax payer

            $4,000.00 a month in two Pensions and you call me stupid. Call me what you want, but this man has never depended on you, if you are a tax payer. I worked hard and now live a good life, and you’ll never see me looking for handouts like most low income people in this country. Are you one of them, if so no wonder you are so angry?

          • morbius777

            I have one pension which is almost as good as yours, AND I STILL WORK PART TIME ON OCCASION. So I’m not “looking for handouts”. I’ll tell you why I’m angry: I’m furious that a few gazillionares at the top (like Kocks) are trying to create a feudal society where the very top (1%) are extremely wealthy and everyone else is dirt poor. Walmart is a great example. They could afford to pay their workers more (I think the Waltons are like the 3, 4, 5, 6 in terms of wealth in this country) so they wouldn’t have to even need food stamps. The arrogant attitude of the aristocratic 1% is, in fact, an anti democratic attitude. I’m equally angry at the middle of the country that thinks that Fox news is gospel. Having an uneducated red state constituency endorsing the feudal agenda of the 1%, along with the evangelical movement is going to return us to the gilded age. Most of all, I despise the reemergence of the John Birch Society in the form of the tea party.

          • tax payer

            You have it made, so why work. Don’t worry about the other people because I can tell you right now they don’t worry about you as they are getting benefits they have never earned. Live your life and stop worrying about what others should get, if they don’t deserve it. I could work part-time doing income tax returns, but I don’t have too many bills and only pay for essentials that everyone pays for monthly. Many people that are on food stamps have a lot of money, but they don’t report every dime they get since women live with men as common-in law and never report their salary in order to parasite off the tax payers. We could be going back and forth debating, and still these people won’t care. Most of my money goes to the bank and in the summers we take a well earned vacation, and you too may have that opportunity since you say you have a Nice Pension that I know you deserve because of your hard work all these years.

          • morbius777

            I’m worried about what others get or if they earned it (except the people on wall street, especially the banks and CEOS, I have to admit, make my blood boil) mostly, because they have managed to game the system and convince everyone else that their criminal behavior is for our own good. I’m sorry, it’s just not right. Beyond that, I still have something to contribute to make our community and the next generation better, and I will do so as long as I can.

          • tax payer

            Remember Banks go out of Business because people borrow and never pay back their loans. I contacted my bank and made a suggestion, and they will look into it because I felt they were doing something wrong and they agreed with what I had told them they were doing wrong. This suggestion will protect many of those with an account in that bank, but I won’t come out with it until I see that they have made the change I requested.

          • morbius777

            Banks go out of business (unless they are one of the big 5, in which case they are too big to fail) because they weren’t satisfied with making a small return on their investments. No, they invented “securitazation”; a way of packaging risky loans (which they made) with AAA loans and selling them to investors, foreign and domestic. And to add insult to injury, they invented “diretivies”…. a way on betting on whether or not a loan would go south, and, many times, they ended up betting against the loans they themselves made. It’s not the government you should distrust…. its these shysters …. in my book, they are no better than common criminals.

          • idamag

            Don’t forget the derivatives.

        • disqus_fsqeoY3FsG

          Let us compare:

          Rules: “Cruz is prohibited from leaving the Senate floor and not allowed to eat, drink or take a bathroom break. He must talk continually but can do so on any subject. Cruz also is free to yield for questions from fellow senators — which he did less than an hour in, allowing Mike Lee of Utah to ask questions while he rested his voice.” Purpose: grandstanding to add to his resume and advance his own career. Will not stop the vote.

          “Davis, under Texas Senate filibuster rules, had to talk without interruption, but only about the bill she opposed. Davis too was allowed to yield for questions and her Democratic colleagues offered them to give her a break. But, unlike the U.S. Senate, Texas has a three-strikes rule that eventually allowed state Senate Republicans to silence Davis. They twice raised objections to her speaking on matters not directly related to the abortion bill and once for having a colleague help her into a back brace.”

          Purpose: To prevent the Texas Senate from voting on a draconian abortion bill. STOPPED the vote from happening that night – the purpose for a filibuster.

        • sn77339

          No, “We” Texans are NOT all proud of this Carpetbagger. He isn’t doing anything to help any of us. It’s all about making his name and his career. He’s a disgrace to this state and this country. Send him back to Canada.

          • tax payer

            There are exceptions like when I was disappointed Obama won twice. You have the right to say you are not proud of him, so if it makes you happy than be Happy.

          • omgamike

            There you go again. But you are right in one aspect. I have a right to be proud of him — and am. Mind you, he has done things that I don’t agree with. But, overall, I believe we are very lucky to have elected him — and re-elected him.

          • Mark Forsyth

            I was in Kingston,Ontario on Monday.I’m pretty sure that Canada would not have him if they can help it.But since Kingston is at the head of the St.Lawrence River and it’s the time of year for muskie fishing,perhaps he could be used for bait.

        • nirodha

          It now becomes clearer to me what’s up with you, TP (same initials as Tea Party!). You are from Texas, and you are more to be pitied than scorned. You did not have the educational opportunities of those in states with good public school systems, with a mix of liberals and conservatives, so that you could compare political philosophies, and draw your own conclusions. Instead, you were brainwashed from an early age to only accept that the right is right. So sorry that your world is so narrowly defined.

          • plc97477

            He is not worth your sorrow. Many people grew up in the same circumstances and still have some sense.

          • tax payer

            All schools give out the same education and it’s up to the students, if they want to learn or not, and the State has nothing to do with who gets to learn more. You are wrong, but will never admit it. The Democrats have been brainwashed by the illegals and the working poor.

          • omgamike

            And where does Texas rank nationally on the percentage of high school dropouts? Last, I believe. And no, not all schools give out the same education. I wish all schools provided a quality education. But this is the real world, where everything revolves around money, school districts included. A student’s education is not just his/her responsibility. It is also the responsibility of the teacher, the school districts and the parents and the community. And as far as illegals go, I also believe that Texas ranks right up there at close to the top among states that have ill used illegals in order to further their own commercial interests. You are welcome to prove me wrong if you can, but please provide reliable links to your sources of information that form the basis for your opinions. Otherwise, they are just that, opinions.

          • tax payer

            That’s because we have too many children of illegals attending our schools and they thought everything was taught in Spanish. Boy, were they surprised!

          • Paul Bass

            Taxpayer, this statement shows how truly racist you are!
            Many children of illegals were born her in the US, therefore they are US citizens, and deserve access to our schools, as bad as they are here in Texas, as much as any other US citizen. They pay their taxes, therefore they deserve the same benefits as you. Did you sleep through your 7th grade civics class?

          • tax payer

            Sure, they are born here, but they live in an environment of parents that don’t speak English and don’t make an effort to learn; so they enter Pre-K not knowing a single word of English. They qualify for Pre-K, while your sons and daughters aren’t able to go since you taught them English since they were able to say a word. I fought for my daughter to enter Pre-K and they had to give in to me because I was about to sue the School District. I feel every child in this country should enter Pre-K and most Americans don’t care to fight for the Rights of their children in this country unless it means they will get money in return. Once they leave Pre-K they are taught in Bi-lingual and that to me is a waste of your tax money.

          • tax payer

            Did your children attend Pre-K or were they denied that chance because they knew the English Language or you weren’t low income? Think about it because, if they were denied Pre-K the School District was also Racist toward your children. So, Racist is everywhere and you seem to not know it.

          • Paul Bass

            My son is autistic. He did attend pre-K, until I found out the teacher was verbally abusing him (He was barely verbal at the time, so couldn’t complain about his teacher). I then found a private school for him ( >$25K/yr). So no they were not racist, just bad teachers! I was lucky to be able to afford private education for my son, otherwise I would have had to fight with the school just to get the meager services they provide for children with disabilities.

          • tax payer

            You would have won the fight. Every child deserves an education and your son could have been put in a special classroom with a teacher, and an assistant. Some School District won’t allow children of parents with high income to attend Pre-K, so you were able to get him in even though you could afford to pay $25,000.00 a year. The School Districts are Racists, if they aren’t fair to every student no matter the income of their parents. Teachers are teachers and those with disabilities have to be in a special class with teachers that are trained to deal with them, so that’s why you paid so much money after taking him out of Public School. I am glad you were able to afford to put him elsewhere, so maybe now he has learned much more than when he was in public school.

          • Independent1

            Excuses, excuses!! When are you going to admit that a lot of the problems are due to misguided GOP governance? Here are some other stats on GOP run states that make it pretty clear that austerity, cuts to virtually every government service, and focusing almost exclusively on promoting job growth and corporate profits, eventually take their toll:

            - Why is it that if the GOP run states are supposed to be run so well, that more than 75% of food stamp recipients live in GOP run states? (6 of the top 10 food stamp using states are GOP run states and beyond that the greatest food
            stamp using states are the sparsely populated red states.)
            - Why is it that 21 of the 23 states that have more than 15% of their population struggling with incomes below the poverty level ALL ARE RUN BY THE GOP?
            - Why is it that 12 of the 15 states with the highest rates of homicide are also run by the GOP. With Louisiana being by far the murder capital of America with Mississippi #2 and on and on??.
            - Why is it that South Carolina, Tennessee, Nevada, Louisiana and Florida, all GOP run states lead the nation in violent crime??
            - Why is it that of the 25 states in the nation with the highest highway fatality rates – ALL ARE RUN BY THE GOP??
            - Why is it that of the 15 states that have the highest infant mortality rates in the nation ALL ARE RUN BY THE GOP??
            - Why is it that of the 15 states with the lowest life expectancy in the U.S. ALL ARE RUN BY THE GOP??
            And there’s a fairly large disparity between living to 75 in Miss., W. Va., Ala. and LA., and living to 81 or close to it in N.Y., Mass., Calif., CT, Minn. and Hawaii – that’s living 6 years longer!!
            - Why is it that all 20 of the states with the highest firearms mortality rates ALL ARE RUN BY THE GOP?? And not only
            that, but all 20 of the states with the highest gun ownership are GOP RUN STATES. And that despite the NRA’s lies, very few of the homicides are justifiable as self-defense (less than 3%)??
            - Why is it that the red state which most Republicans probably look to as a shining light for the GOP, Texas, which is the second largest economy in America behind California, is nothing more than the cesspool of America?? – it
            ranks in the bottom 5 in almost EVERY SUBJECTIVE MEASURE when compared to otherAmerican states! Even though the GOP has had well over 15 years to turn it into
            something other than a job creation machine that lures unsuspecting job applicants to the WORST STATE IN AMERICA!!!!!
            - And why is it, if GOP governance is so great, that only 3 of the 17 states that get back less tax dollars in federal aid than they send to Washington in tax revenues, are GOP run states?? And that all 10 of the states that get the
            least federal aid for the taxes they pay ARE ALL BLUE STATES???? It’s 14 Blue States that are supporting
            America!!

          • tax payer

            Which of the two Parties are trying to cut a percentage of food stamps? Not the Democrats.

          • Independent1

            And so you’re proud of the effort the GOP is making now to deprive millions of people of being able to use food stamps??
            People that THEY PUT ON FOOD STAMPS IN THE FIRST PLACE!!! What a hypocrite!!
            Let me count the ways that the GOP put millions upon millions onto food stamps over the past 5 years!!!
            1) Bush and the GOP total mismanagement of the economy threw millions of Americans onto unemployment by destroying the companies they worked for – thousands of them!!
            2) Nitwit GOP state legislators cut budgets and state services IN THE STATES THE GOP GOVERNED, once again throwing hundreds of thousands & millions more into needing to use food stamps!!
            3) The nitwit GOP legislators in the House have sat on 2 of Obama’s jobs bills that would have created millions of jobs thereby lifting millions out of needing food stamps!!

            The GOP has done everything in can over the past 5 years to stall the economy and keep people from working themselves out of poverty (as I pointed out in my list above, GOP run states BY FAR LEAD THE NATION IN PEOPLE LIVING IN POVERTY) AND YOU HAVE THE DAMN NERVE TO SUGGEST THAT IT’S THE DEMOCRATS THAT ARE NOT WORKING TO GET PEOPLE OFF OF FOOD STAMPS!!

            YOU SIR ARE A TYPICAL GOP LIAR!!!

          • tax payer

            No one put them on food stamps because they know how to do it themselves, but you blame the Republicans. If someone has lived in a household that has received food stamps since birth they’ll also are going to take them, when they become adults since they know it’s there for the taking.

          • idamag

            Don’t forget, Texas censored text books so they wouldn’t get the same education as other places do.

          • tax payer

            It doesn’t bother me because the parents do a lot of complaining and the State doesn’t want to be involved in a long lawsuit fight with these parents. So, they censor books and that makes the crybabies happy.

          • nirodha

            Unfortunately, you (and Rafael Cruz) give all Texans a bad name (undeserved). To illustrate what I mean, here are lines recently seen, inscribed on the wall of a mens room:
            “Here I sit, muscles flexin’,
            Trying to hatch another Texan”

          • tax payer

            I believe that happens in every State, so it includes your State too and you don’t know it.

          • jointerjohn

            All schools give out the same education huh? Then why are republicans screaming for choice vouchers to allow parents to pull their children from failing schools? You are seriously off your party script there friend.

          • tax payer

            It’s not the Republicans that are asking for the vouchers. It’s the parents that are low income and they feel their children are too stupid or dumb to learn anything in a Public School.

          • jointerjohn

            You say it is not Republicans pushing school choice voucher programs? WOW! You’re response is so completely, upside down, defiant of documented reality wrong I now realize you have been pulling our legs here on this site all along. No adult can be so oblivious, so delusional, unless doing it as a joke. You got me tax payer, I thought for awhile you were really serious, but now you have blown your cover. Too bad actually, I enjoy a fine ruse now and then.

          • idamag

            If tp is an example of Texas schools, then Texas is in trouble.

          • idamag

            The vouchers are to support schools that teach a different philosophy than the one that made America great in the first place.

          • Sand_Cat

            Nice of you to further air your delusions, starting with “all schools give out the same education.”
            And speaking of someone who’s wrong and won’t admit it, try looking in the mirror.

            I got a good laugh out of the bit about how the illegals and “working poor” have “brainwashed” us. It’s nice to know that you have something against – and chose to specifically single out – those poor people who are actually working and trying to support themselves and pull their weight. I guess the non-working poor are more convenient to the maintenance of your lies and delusions, so you despise those who work because they threaten the stereotypes and misinformation upon which your whole pathetic belief system rests.

          • tax payer

            Who is us? I never mentioned the American People were Brainwashed only the Democrats in Congress.

          • Independent1

            I’ll tell you what tax payer, if you’re so proud of Texas explain to me why some statistics on Texas compared to the other states in America look so bad. Admittedly, the stats are from a around 2010-11, but in checking some of them out they haven’t changed much over the passed 3 years or so:

            .Texas is 49th in the country in tax revenues collected per capita and 50th in revenues spent.
            .Texas is 44th in tax progressivity, which means it collects most of its taxes from working people
            .And Texas comes in 50th in the percent of its population that have a HS diploma and Texas is 49th in what it pays its teachers.
            .Texas ranks dead last (50th) in having the most people without health insurance and also dead last in the number of children covered by insurance.
            .Texas is 49th in the support it provides to women & children in the WIC program, and it leads the nation in teenage births.
            .Texas ranks 6th in the nation in the number of people living in poverty and 50th with regard to the affordability of homeowners insurance.
            .Texas ranks 45th in the overall health of its population and 47th with respect to mental health.
            .The quality of the highways in Texas is ranked 42nd and its parks and recreation facilities are ranked 48th and environmental protection 46th
            . Police protection in Texas is rnked 49th and government administration 50th.
            .Texas comes in 3rd in the nation in the number of public officials that are convicted for a crime; while being dead last in the percent of voters who turn out for elections.
            .Texas is 46th in the hourly earnings of its workers and 48th in the payout of worker’s comp benefits.
            .Texas also has the worst healthcare services and delivery in the nation according to the federal Agency for Health Care Research and Quality
            .And Texas ranks as having the most polluted environment in the nation because of all the oil spills and toxic fumes that are spewed by all its oil refineries and coal-fired power
            plants.

          • tax payer

            Texas is number one in having to support unwed mothers that have five to seven children and not know who their fathers are, so at least we are first in something, but not too proud of it. One reason they don’t collect too much revenue is because we have too many low income people that only pay taxes, when they purchase beer and cigarettes, so I am glad you have the time to search for stats, but I don’t care to do any searches since it’s all there for someone to look up. I am just glad of Texas because I live in Texas. If I lived in another State I would be proud of that State too, so you must not be too proud of your State

          • idamag

            Damn, you’re good!

        • idamag

          You are from Texas. I should have guessed.

        • Sand_Cat

          So you’re from Texas! That explains a LOT.

      • idamag

        Even though, some unwashed person is going to shout “race card” at you, you are right. When Obama was elected president the white supremist groups, in this country, doubled.

  • disqus_ivSI3ByGmh

    This whole Tea Party fiasco is a complete turn-around from the fiasco the Republicans generated by the whole Medicare Donut Hole situation. There they kept telling the public that everything would be all right, just trust them. Once the new program rolled out, it took an army of lawyers to figure out not only was it completely smoke and mirrors, but was a complete scam to force seniors to purchase supplemental policies from private insurance companies to cover the infamous Medicare Gap. One thing seniors realized before anyone else was that the ACA closes that gap!

    • idamag

      Yes, and when my husband went into the so-called doughnut hole, his monthly medications came to $2,000 a month.

      • 4sanity4all

        How can they name something so nasty after a delicious fried treat?

        • stevedavis

          Because the delicious fried treat is made of stuff that will kill you if you make a habit of it.

      • tax payer

        Doctors have a bad habit of giving out medication to cure or control the same illness, but with different names, so many of us enter that phase and end up paying too much for our medication. I stopped my doctor from doing that ( by doing some research of my own ) to me and also got rid of him the following month. You have the right to leave your doctor, if he’s not doing the job he should be doing.

  • Eleanore Whitaker

    Dig even deeper into why the GOP and Cruz is so hot to defund Obamacare. Their only claim is “cost.” Thus far, every piece of legislation the president has supported has reduced, not increased costs.

    Two things to consider about why the Tea Party REALLY hates Obamacare. When the Koch billionaires established the Tea Party was it wholly a charitable effort? Or was it to take over the government and throw scraps to the Middle Class the 1% casts off? So, when you consider that the Koch billions are behind the Tea Party, this automatically nullifies any possibility it was some charitable effort. It was to keep Koch billions growing, no other reason.

    If you need proof, check out what’s going in NY with Shelly Silver’s compatriot at that Met HMO. Vogelson stole nearly $5 million in 20 years. How he get away with it? Simple. He did what every HMO today has been doing for 50 years…jacking premiums and then stuffing the excess into their own pockets. Who didn’t know this? If this isn’t a fact, then why suddenly since the ACA was passed has the inflation rate of healthcare dropped by 4% in just 3 years? It’s because these HMO thugs can’t claim 80% of revenue intake as “profit” and then jack premiums to cover claims.

    Second consideration, Cruz is going wild to get the ACA defunded. That would leave plenty in the federal kitty to seal the Keystone deal between Texas Drill Baby Drill nuts and CanOil in Alberta. Smells doesn’t it?

    • Annemb

      Excellent post!

      …and I understand that each “repeal” vote costs us $1.45 million. Hmm, I wonder what the pseudo-investigations cost us?

      Faved.

      • idamag

        And these are the people that are so worried about government spending.

        • Annemb

          Exactly my thought too when I heard this.

          I hope things are better for your husband and meds.

          Blessings and you, your husband and family, have my prayers.

          • idamag

            He never made it. However, he lived 15 years longer than he would have thanks to the government single payer insurance we had.

          • Annemb

            I’m sorry to hear that he didn’t make it, but grateful for the 15 years longer that he lived because of the government single payer insurance.

            Please take care of yourself.

            Blessings and prayers.

        • jointerjohn

          No they are not worried about government spending. Only when a Democrat is in the White House and the spending goes to the needy. When George W. was President they said deficits didn’t matter. Now they say that by providing SNAP cards and subsidized housing we are hurting the recipients, cruelly keeping them down, and that they want to lift them all to economic independence by their brand of starvation therapy. They are simultaneously against SNAP cards and raising the minimum wage. When those two positions coexist it means only one thing, screw the little guy.

        • lana ward

          Have you been cut back to 30 hours a week yet like millions of Americans have because of Ocare???

          • Independent1

            You’re as lame as always Lana; All these companies that are claiming they’re putting people on reduced hours to keep them from getting benefits TODAY!! HAVE BEEN DOING THAT FOR YEARS!! They’ve just now come up with something they can use as an excuse for continuing to doing something that they’ve been doing ever since Reagan destroyed the fabric of America by busting the Air Traffic Controllers Union and making every CEO and entrepreneur in America aware that; “DOING RIGHT BY WORKERS THAT DO RIGHT BY YOU” ISN’T IMPORTANT ANYMORE!!!

          • lana ward

            Workers everywhere are being cut back to part time. That has NEVER happened before. Pay attention to what’s going on, for once

          • robotkilr

            Lana, you should pay attention to other than Faux Snooze.

            Conservative and liberal experts agree that reports of employers cutting back hours to avoid paying for health coverage is more anecdote than fact.

            “My read of the data is that while part-time employment
            has certainly gone up, you can’t tie it to the health care law,” said James Sherk, a labor policy analyst at the conservative Heritage Foundation in Washington, D.C. “We have had a very weak recovery.”

            Mike Evangelist is a policy analyst in the Michigan office of the liberal National Employment Law Project. He said while more recent figures show 3out of 4 jobs created are part time, a longer-term view gives a more accurate picture. The number of part-time jobs created has fluctuated. When one looks back to February 2010, the lowest point of employment,
            only 12 percent of jobs created since then are part time, he said.

          • lana ward

            Americans are being cut back to 29 hours everywhere because of Ocare. Not 1 Republican voted for this God awful bill–now the Dems want to be exempt from it. Unions helped to get it passed, now they want out of it. It is going to be a nightmare

          • idamag

            I don’t bother to respond to lana. She is a former welfare recipient and not very intelligent. Only hate words fall from her mouth. She adds nothing to the discussion and is proud of her ignorance.

    • stevedavis

      The reason Republicans hate Obamacare is partly because of those things you have listed, but it is also because it is going to act like a 200-300 billion dollar stimulus next year, heading into elections. If Kaiser’s subsidy calculator ain’t lying, I’m looking forward to having roughly 2,500 dollars put back into my pocket next year. And my income is low enough to where that’s going to mean something to me, spending-wise. So not only will people discover that they like Obamacare, they’ll also discover that they’ve effectively been given a massive tax break, if they want to think about it that way.

      • idamag

        I think once they have the ACA, they will find it something they like. The propaganda against it is being fueled by the “I want it all” boys. Healthcare should have never been on the stock market page of the Wall Street Journal. It is the healthcare providers who really brought about the Affordable Care Act by their unbridled greed.

    • idamag

      It was to take over the government.

  • FT66

    What astonishes me most is: why Cruz and his followers can’t wait until ACA kicks in, let people decide themselves whether its good for them or not. Why all this hurry? If it is all about to stop Pres. Obama’s success, I do think they have hit the concrete wall. No one can obstruct, lie, cheat, those who can think, see and make independent decisions of their own.

    • Bill Boltz

      I think he’s under orders.

      • Buford2k11

        The entire GOP/baggers are under orders from their owners…talk about slavery, these folks don’t realize they have allowed themselves to be purchase to do the work their overlords can’t do legally…

        • Bill Boltz

          That’s not what “tax payer” above would have you believe.

          • Buford2k11

            Yeah, I know…fools and their money are soon parted…

    • tax payer

      People often decide and the Supreme Court tells them ( you are wrong for voting for this whatever it may be ), and we will change it since we are the Superiors of this country.

      • Bill Boltz

        Well…I’m awful proud of ya

      • FT66

        Oh! On this case ACA “Obamacare” the Supreme Court has already made their voice heard. They didn’t change anything which was decided by people already. What they did, was upholding what was decided in advance by people. What country are you living in that you do not know this?

        • tax payer

          I wasn’t referring about Obamacare because people have voted and their vote has not meant a thing to the Supreme Court because they change it. States voted to not grant marriages to Gays and Lesbians, so what did the Supreme Court do about their no votes? They voted 5-4 they had a right to be man and man, and woman and woman in Marriage.

    • Allan Richardson

      Acts 5:38-39 — Therefore,
      in the present case I advise you: Leave these men alone! Let them go!
      For if their purpose or activity is of human origin, it will fail. But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting against God.”

      Obamacare is not, of course, the Gospel, but Gamaliel’s logic makes more sense than the Tea Party’s. Where is the Republicans’ Gamaliel when we need him?

      • idamag

        It isn’t a perfect plan, but when you build a plan, it becomes the base for making a more perfect plan. It is 100% better than what we had.

        • Allan Richardson

          And the people who profited most from what we had certainly do not want it to go into effect, much less be improved upon. it is THEIR money that goes to Faux and Tea Party.

  • jnsgraphic

    Republicans don’t like Obamacare because Republicans don’t like lower profits for corporations; and being able to drop people with pre-existing conditions also helps keep the insurance companies profitable.

    Republicans don’t like Obamacare because they don’t care if people go into debt after their coverage runs out, it’s not their problem; Americans pay three times the costs of most other countries that have some form or other of nationalized healthcare, and don’t have to go bankrupt to stay alive.

    Republicans don’t like Obamacare because they don’t want people saving money on insurance; and they don’t want young adults on their parent’s policy, they would rather burden them medical bills on top of a high interest student loan.

    Republicans don’t like Obamacare because they don’t want insurance companies to offer preventive measures for women, yet some women still vote republican… go figure.

    The #1 reason Republicans don’t like Obamacare is because they can’t stand anything and President does that will be a success and prove them wrong. If they thought it was going to fail they wouldn’t be trying so hard to stop it.

    • morbius777

      Most red state (read redneck) republicans are too stupid to figure out that what the Kock’s want is against their own economic interests. The 1%’ers count on this. So remember, democrats and progressives, helping them secede will improve the gene pool.

      • jnsgraphic

        A government shutdown might be what it takes to get through to these ignorant voters that don’t see the big picture and will finally realize all they wants is their vote. We need to somehow get through to the GOP/T middle-class who actually work for a living, but continue to vote Republican despite the fact that the policies being pursued by their party, will be just as damaging and detrimental to them as much as it is to Democratic working class. Hopefully theyll get their asses handed to them by voters next fall.

        • plc97477

          The good news is that less and less people all the time are willing to say they are repugs. The crazier the party, gets the faster they are leaving.

          • latebloomingrandma

            Unfortunately, not where I live. They just keep getting more rabid.

          • idamag

            Where I live also.

    • nirodha

      I’m not sure that most rank and file republicans really know why they dislike the ACA, other than they have been told to do so. All of this propaganda is coming from the reactionary think tanks funded by the Kochs, DeVos, the Waltons and their ilk. It trickles down through the increasingly loony reps of the TP and as it proliferates, it takes on a life of its own. I don’t think that anyone can stop this lunacy now, until the ACA has proven to be a resounding success, and saner heads start to prevail. Once the general populace finds that the ACA is beneficial to them, perhaps the right-wing noise machine will fall apart.

      • jnsgraphic

        That is the GOP/Ts biggest fear… Cruz didn’t even realize that “Green Eggs and Ham” is a great metaphor for Obamacare… once people try it, they might actually like it!

        • Allan Richardson

          Just what I was thinking last night! “I do not like Obamacare” becomes “I do SO like Obamacare!”

  • kingartie1

    Cruz is grandstanding big time and already running for president. Futilely, we might add. “Transparently pompous ass” is not on the list of qualities for a good candidate. Somewhere in the invisible part of the picture, someone has pledged money for a campaign if he shills and struts in lame, annoying but troublesome attempts to impose the will of the 1%. This blowhard is either indifferent or oblivious that many millions of us now see that the health care plans Congress has long enjoyed — that Republican’ts and tea baggers as well as as Dems accept eagerly — are similar in form and function to ACA. A collective pool of policy money and taxpayer subsidies, no exclusions of pre-existing conditions, and so on. The hypocrisy is boggling. That, and the sheer coldness of it. I mean, really, pumping out so much noise and static to keep millions of people from obtaining equitable, affordable health insurance? And based on plans that were FLOATED BY SOME REPUBLICANS AND ENACTED BY ONE CERTAIN MASSACHUSETTS GOVERNOR IN THE FIRST PLACE!

    I’m hopeful that this is all for the best. Once millions of Americans get a good, practical look at what the Republican’t brand is really about, they may change their minds and change the channel. Shrewd and ruthless the Repubs are, but ethically and intellectually capable they are not. There is a lot of constipation in there, they need an enema.

    • Annemb

      Cruz is narcissist.

  • 1standlastword

    And they thought they were getting Hispanic representation to demonstrate their openness and sensitivity but instead Ted Cruz appears –better said–IS a real stink bomb obstructionist arsonist typical of the Tea Party brand
    Geez
    He has his nice health plan and wants to destroy others.
    Texas…dump this pretender ASAP!!

  • Lovefacts

    IMO, our educational system is at fault. If the public were educated, could read, write, do basic math, and understood history and civics, the US wouldn’t be a nation of sheep. It’s time the public stopped believing talking heads–be they on the left or the right–and stop listening to sound bites. That alone would help with this mess.

    I’m old enough to remember when health insurance companies were non-profits. This changed under Reagan. However, the true reason why the T-party and insurance companies are so afraid of the ACA is because people will love it once it’s fully implemented. Here are a few reasons why:
    1. It removes the fear that if you lose a job or want to change a job you’ll lose health insurance.
    2.It also lower cost to the insured by requiring 80% of all premiums to be used for medical payments, not overhead or bonuses. If less than 80% of premiums is paid out, then it’s refunded to the insured. This cuts down the profit of insurance companies. (The companies will be forced to also lower premiums, because refunding is a major headache.)

    3. Then there’s the saving for inoculations–this includes the flu shot, well care check-ups, mammograms, among a host of other things. Parents of kids should see their out of pocket medical expenses decreasing.
    4. For insurance purposes, preexisting conditions no longer exist.
    5. There is no longer a life-time cap on insurance coverage. Have a major car accident or cancer or heart condition, etc. and you’ll love this provision.

    • Annemb

      Thanks for an informative post.

    • Allan Richardson

      And why would TP be against that? Oh right, if you have the bad luck to get sick, you have sinned and deserve to go broke.

      • idamag

        Or, as Alan Grayson said, the Republcian plan is don’t get sick and if you do get sick die quickly.

        • lana ward

          Howard Dean said Sarah Palin is right about the dems and their death panels

          • robotkilr

            The true death panel is made up of Boehner, Cruz, Cantor, and Ryan! Provide proof that Dean said that, dare ya!

          • lana ward

            That’s what Howard Dean thought too, now he knows the truth. You will never see the clip of him saying it, you won’t watch Fox News. You didn’t see the clip of Alec Baldwin call a reporter a nigger either, did you?

          • delaBeckwith

            The reporter was a nigger.

    • Dominick Vila

      Excellent post. Thank you!

    • tax payer

      Health Insurance Companies are a Business and they are there to make money. Why have them, if you aren’t going to make any money? I would close up and send my employees packing, if I wasn’t going to make any money ( same as ) any Business. If it’s run by the Government ( no money will be made ) and huge losses will occur at the expense of who else, but the tax payers. Medicare is the solution, but how many work to have Medicare in this country? Not too many, so they end up getting Medicaid at our expense in their elderly years in rundown Nursing Homes.

      • charleo1

        How one views health insurance cos. depends on whether one sees
        medical care as a commodity one is only entitled to, based strictly on the basis of one’s ability to pay. Like an ocean front mansion, exotic sports car, or a simple plate of food. Or if one sees medical care as a basic human Right, to which all are entitled to receive, irrespective
        of age, race, religion, or financial condition. That’s if we are to call
        ourselves a civilized society, and not simply a tribe of intelligent apes.
        Insurance cos. simply serve as a rationing apparatus. Adding no value to the final product. It’s profits only gained by the limiting of access, and denying the very care it falsely professes to deliver. When in fact they are completely superfluous middle men, that have injected themselves strategically between those that must have the care, and those that provide it. Insisting their relevance in the process is worth whatever they say it’s worth, for granting passage. Like highway bandits. So, you must pass? Then first you must pay us. What then is the price? It all depends. How much is your life worth to you? Then you should have no trouble paying our comparatively small toll.

        • tax payer

          Last I heard we don’t live in Mexico because there you lose your vehicle and life in a toll road, if there isn’t an honest cop there to prevent the theft. In the USA we pay only, if we want to use a toll road and I never use them because I don’t care how long it takes me to get from Point A to Point B.

          • charleo1

            Well, good luck on never needing to travel the highway
            to medical care.

      • Lovefacts

        We buy health insurance to be able to afford medical care, which, just like food, is a necessity of life, not pay for a CEO to get tens of millions of dollars in bonus by refusing to pay for basic medical care,.

        On March 22, 2013, the following was in the article “Health Insurers Threaten To Increase Premiums, Even As Profits Soar”: “Insurers, meanwhile, are already seeing impressive profits. UnitedHealth, for instance, “had a particularly strong past year, with net income of $5.1 billion, up by 11% from the previous year” and Aetna is similarly beating revenue expectations. A July 2010 report from Pricewaterhouse Coopers concluded that the law’s state-based health care exchanges provide private insurers with a lucrative new market in which they stand to gain up to $200 billion in revenue by 2019.

        It is the height of hubris and self-interest to charge the public as much as they can afford guarantee medical care. To charge outrageous fees to feather one’s nest is nothing more than profiteering at the expense of the societal good–a healthy society.

        • nirodha

          Liberty Mutual recently announced that it is reducing it’s contribution to it’s employees benefits, stating as a reason that it was merely following “industry practice”, whatever that means. Meanwhile, their outgoing CEO will receive an annual pension in the neighborhood of $3 million! That’s 3 mill EVERY year! This, after it was justified by the disclosure that his total compensation for the last 4 years was $200 million! So the poor devil takes a huge pay cut, down to a paltry $3,000,000.00.
          And people have the temerity to bitch about the ACA?

          • tax payer

            How many of us can be as fortunate because we wouldn’t even worry about the other people and you know it’s the truth. If you were as lucky you would take the money and run.

        • idamag

          Because it is a necessity. they can gouge the public.

      • Earlene Walker

        You do know? Well of course you do, the one who knows all about tax-payers rights, but nothing about human rights. You do know that you are the ONLY tax-payer out there, paying for all the “free-loaders”. The rest of we real tax-payers pay only for the good things in life.

        • tax payer

          If you believe that I have some land in the Moon I can sell to you. I used to pay when I was working, but not anymore since you that work are paying and I am just trying to save your tax money.

          • Earlene Walker

            Oh my word, you really are not too sharp! You only see, hear & read what ever you think you read. You don’t even understand a pun. You are like the other ignorant men I have had to work with, through out my life. When they would be bitching about how women got so many more breaks in this world than the working man. I would tell them how right they were. “Because women always pay less at the grocery store to feed their families, & of course our utility bills are less because we are women, & housing, medical insurance & most important….Women always pay a lesser tax rate.” Now if you believe that I have some land on Mars I will be glad to GIVE you.

          • tax payer

            You fail to mention the ( good looking women ) get the better breaks. The ( ugly looking and obese women ) have to take what is offered to them, so which group do you belong to?

          • lana ward

            : ) LOL

      • idamag

        Best argument I ever heard for socialized medicine.

    • 4sanity4all

      I agree that better educated voters would make better choices, but remember that in the most Republican states, you have a lot of anti-intellectual posturing, an intolerance of science, a love of all things Biblical in the curriculum, and so on, ad nauseum.

      • lana ward

        Millions of Americans have been cut back to 30 hours a week because their employers can’t afford Ocare.–Isn’t that great!!!

        • robotkilr

          Absolutly a false and ignorant statement. See my rebuttal to taht claim of yours up-thread. Stop spreading dis-info!

          • lana ward

            Are you a blind fool on purpose?? Americans are being cut back to 29 hours a week EVERYWHERE because of Ocare

      • idamag

        Like Cruz saying that Duck Dynasty is who we are.

  • Billie

    Someone who went to law school with Crazy Cruz said that Cruz refused to study with anyone he felt was beneath him.

    • Bill Boltz

      He was mighty lonely.

    • 4sanity4all

      Cruz has a lot of false pride. He acts like a guy who thinks he has intelligence because he is so great. He doesn’t realize that intelligence is either given to you, or not. And sadly, he has not used his intelligence to be logical, or helpful. He is using his intelligence to be deceptive and manipulative. I think there is something deeply troubled in his personality. He is a pathetic, mean-spirited person with an empty soul, and a void where his heart should be. The sooner he is dismissed to the trash bin of history, the better.

      • idamag

        He is, from the poem “He Who Knows” is he who know not and knows not he knows not.

  • charleo1

    I do not like where we are as a Country this morning. Even more than the most loyal
    T-Party zealot. That hates everything. The President, the poor, and their government,
    for putting food in what they see as their undeserving mouths. I dislike where we are. They are dupes, of course. The T-Party. An invention, of those that have the map, that brought us all where we find ourselves this morning. But they are not the reason we are here. They were not shown the map that led us to this place. Ted Cruz has not seen the map. He is only a cog, a moral-less shill. Hired to use his bought, and paid
    for podium, and his particular talent, to push people on past a place where some are balking. Starting to worry about the millions being left behind. And wondering if our children will be in that number. If after all our efforts, they will spend their days stocking shelves for some multi-national conglomeration. No. I don’t like where we
    are as a Country this morning. Like the President. But don’t like Obama Care. But I hate even more the reason we must now accept it, in all it’s second rated-ness. Because the value of our labor, our only means to survive, and prosper, has been devalued to that of live stock. Valued yes, but all too interchangeable. All too powerless it seems, aganist the mighty bull horns herding people forward into what?

    • Bill Boltz

      I prefer universal health care to the ACA, but I think we’re moving in the right direction. Baby steps..yes, but moving forward. I like to think positive about my country’s future and the future of all Americans….that means ALL. Utopian ideaolgy perhaps, but positive.

      • charleo1

        Not Utopian at all. That’s what someone else may tell you. Not me.
        But I do see too many Americans as being beaten down. Told their expectations, if they have them, of such things as universal healthcare, a living wage, a college education, or a skilled workforce competing in a global economy, are too high. And certainly, if we expect this as something the government should be involved in, we are a big part of the problem. Impossible, unachievable, Liberal, Utopian, Socialist nonsense! That, they will tell you, is the only problem the Country has. That low wages are the right, and fair consequence of globalization. And that’s just as it should be. They will scream at you. Oh, I see. You’re one of those who believe in stealing from the makers, and handing it to the takers! Those Marxists, who buy their power with the stolen fruit of the entrepreneurs, and industrious. Those who have yet to found a self sustaining, and profitable economy? Shut up! And get a job, if you want to eat! And too many who’s nests are feathered, who’s inhabitants have no idea how how all that happened, agree. I admire the positive attitudes I see alive in people, who see that progress is possible. I don’t believe they know what lights they are to those who see only black at times.

        • Bill Boltz

          Very good, charleo1….your light is bright..your soul is intact. 8)

        • nirodha

          What a terrific post, charleo! All I can say is, karmic justice will put the shoe on the other foot one of these days. As the old saying goes: the mills of the gods grind slow, but exceeding fine!

          • charleo1

            “Mills of the Gods.” I like that. A wonderful reply! Thanks!

      • Germansmith

        And like baby steps, ACA is clumsy, lots of falling, dirty diapers and lots of crying.
        Universal healthcare would require doctors and hospitals working for the government…good luck with that !, They like their independence.

        But as W Churchill once said
        “Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing…after they have exhausted all other possibilities”.

        • Bill Boltz

          I agree…I was just thinking (out loud so to speak). It’ll never happen here. The doctors and hospitals would like to charge what they want for services. Change comes hard to some people. I expect to hear a shitload of bitching till this becomes mainstream. I don’t know if Churchill said that, but it sure sounds like him. Always loved the guy.

  • http://www.endhereditaryreligion.com Totanaca

    The Tea Party people really do not care who they hurt. This is the definition of a psychopath. No empathy, no remorse.

    • disqus_ivSI3ByGmh

      Amazing how much they are like their spiritual founder, The-Former-Governor-of-Alaska-Who-Quit-Halfway-into-Her-Term-Because-She-Couldn’t-Stand-the-Pressure-of-the-Job-and-was-Offered-a-Bunch-of-Money-by-FOX-Until-They-Realized-She-Had-all-the-Depth-of-a-Rain-Puddle-in-the-Sidewalk.

      • nirodha

        Oh, you mean The Thrilla From Wasilla?

  • howa4x

    Well is it a step up or a step down from Palin/Bachmann? They were the nominal leaders of the Tea party prior to the arrival of Cruz, and now one of them is moving toward history’s dust bin, and the other is becoming more irrelevant. News flash: People are starting to see the tealiban as being too extreme. Most thinking people want government to work more efficiently not be done away with. Too many people are dependent on government services, and this is just not handouts to poor people. Defense contractors lead the list of those dependent of government, followed by farmers, the bond traders, the transportation system including air travel, roads and bridges. States are very dependent on government with the red states being the 5 poorest in the country asking for the most aid. So is the military and especially their families whose checks would stop if the govt shuts down. So the tea party is playing a dangerous game that would hurt a lot of different sectors of the economy
    Cruz though, might be the one to split the GOP in half. He uses his Ivy pedigree to appear smarter than the other 2. In an age of media memorialization where your comments live forever he may not want to be known as the one who forced a shutdown, hurting so many. Being the tealiban star means you need to be making radical statements that require little thought, since you are trying to appeal to the lower part of the intelligence strata. So the house has a choice. Govern and show the vast majority you can, or play stupid tea party games and appeal to a shrinking minority of voters.

    • nirodha

      Good post! Just a comment on Cruz using “his Ivy pedigree” to appear smarter than others. George “Mission Accomplished” Bush went to Yale (as a legacy, which essentially means that his family paid Yale to take him) and to Harvard Business School (where he rarely attended classes and is said to have paid a surrogate to write his papers). I wouldn’t put too much stock in Cruz’ Ivy League credentials. As with anywhere else, “money talks and bullshit walks”.

      • disqus_ivSI3ByGmh

        Harvard Business School has been the joke of economics since the 60s when Robert Townsend (former CEO of Avis) pointed out all HBS was good for was training people to be CEO’s, Company Presidents, or Chairmen of the BoD. They train people on how to find the best people to take care of things for them, instead of training them to take care of things themselves.
        Dubya used to like to refer to himself as the “Great Decider”. His standard decision was to appoint others to make the decisions for him. Like appointing Cheney to lead the search team to find a VP candidate for him, appointing Don Rumsfeld to find his SecDef, etc.

        • Lynda Groom

          Anyone who wants to attend a good Business School should consider Stanford. Of course Stanford is expensive, but you get what you pay for.

      • howa4x

        True but look at his completion for the head of the tea party. Palin thought that Paul Revere rode to warn the British not to take our guns, and Bachmann said the revolutionary war was fought to free the slaves

        • nirodha

          That’s right! Rafael looks like a genius by comparison!

          • Bill Boltz

            Yes!!! King of the mental midgets!

          • nirodha

            As they say, in the country of the blind, the one-eyed man is king!

  • lkreu

    I said that we need healthcare and I believe Obamacare is going to work and that’s what scares the crap out of the right wing. If its going to fail (according to them) why not let it and then they can say “We told you so” and wind the elections in 2014. They are scared to death. Someone actually told me that my answer was scary. I asked why? got no answer of course

    • Bill Boltz

      I definitely believe the GOP fears the program will work and it will for the most part. Do they have a better plan? If they did, they would certainly roll it out. This is what we have now. Let’s get it going and tweak it as needed. New products are released to the public all the time and the consumer finds the faults. I have faith in our people to find the faults and fix them.

    • Germansmith

      No. What scares any sensible person that cares for the OVERALL health of their country’s finances, is that once you implement a freebie, or subsidy or entitlement program they never go away no matter how costly and idiotic they are, because politicians depend on the plebe to be re-elected.
      Heard of oil subsidies? Still around. How about agricultural subsidies for large conglomerates making lots of money?…here still
      Well. those subsidies are pocket change in comparison to the billions of dollars that will go to health insurance companies so they can manage the distribution of the most expensive healthcare in the world while not allowing them to evaluate real risk.

  • Kurt CPI

    I agree with a lot of what this author says. Obamacare is here, like it or not, and de-funding it is not a long-term strategy for stopping it. But there is more meat to opposing it than just scraping the bones for the fund-raising value. It represents a short-term way of halting or impeding its roll-out, the hope being that Americans will indeed vote for Republicans who can repeal it. That won’t be possible once it becomes firmly entrenched. Likewise, a repeal can’t possibly happen as long as Obama is in office, so stalling is the single strategy that has any merit. It won’t work, but they simply have nothing else. On the other hand, it’s entirely untested. It is to be launched en masse with not a single pilot program. Something this important should be tested, improved where needed, re-tested and the process repeated in the lab until the results are satisfactory. Getting it out the door ASAP is at least as much about politics as are the stalling maneuvers. Many people who object to it do so for reasons of pragmatism, not politics. Let’s take our time and get it right!

  • montanabill

    Hey Gene, why don’t you, on a point by point basis of Obama promises for ACA, show us the ones to be true and which ones were whoppers? There are some good points, such as eliminating pre-existing conditions, but do you really want to treat your kids like children when they are 25? Do you really want to pay higher premiums with a smaller choice of doctors, a smaller choice of hospitals, a smaller choice of care options and the approval of some bureaucrat for length and type of treatment they will approve. If one of your loved ones incurs a serious medical condition, are these attributes you will want for their care? Couldn’t the worthwhile items have been created in a 2 or 3 hundred page bill? By the way, no law should be safe from reconsideration. Especially one that was forced on the American public by one party through unscrupulous means.

    • Germansmith

      montanabill. Being very privy to the future costs and tribulations ACA is going to bring I agree with you 100%.
      Expect to be insulted in this web site as most of the acolytes here just read seldom and hear what they want to hear (sort of the Fox viewers, but on the left) and remember, the people that love ACA are NOT usually paying the premiums, the subsidies (or credits like the left like to call them) will be paid with money borrow from the Chinese because anybody that can add can figure this law WILL NEVER be revenue neutral
      There are some good parts in ACA that will benefit many, but ACA is sort of an Edsel…good looking car but hard and costly to keep running and worth the reconsideration of the buying decision.

      • montanabill

        FYI: My main business is in the health care industry. Not insurance. But, as you say, I, too, am privy to the rising costs and their projections, the real and projected loss of providers and the care restrictions all ready imposed on those who have health care under government control.

      • nirodha

        With analysis like that, I don’t expect you to be on the short list to replace Tim Geithner!

        • Germansmith

          No. I do not think so.
          That is OK. I like to look myself in the mirror every morning with the satisfaction that I have done no harm or lied to anybody in the last 24 hours.

  • JohnEngelman

    The Republican Party keeps moving to the right. I would like to believe that it will generate a backlash, but I do not see one building.

    During the late 1960′s the Democratic Party lost its dominating position in the United States because of five years of black ghetto rioting, and an ongoing crime wave. A rising crime rate always benefits the Republicans, even when they dominate the country.

    If Republican extremism ruins the economy it is not clear to me that the GOP will be blamed. Democrats no longer have the respect they earned during the Great Depression as good managers of the economy.

  • tax payer

    I don’t understand why the Democrats keep emailing me to make a donation of $3.00, when they know I am a miser and never donate to any Party including mine. What good is $3.00 going to do except buy one of them a cup of coffee. Stop bothering the people and stop asking for money because there is no way I’ll donate any money to any Party. I get one daily and delete it as soon as I see it’s there in my email column.

  • tax payer

    Obama emailed me for a $3.00 donation and that’s a daily thing I get everyday from the Democrats. So, who is asking for money from us. The Democrats.

  • nobody

    After making sure, “We the People” have no money both parties ask for donations on the daily!

  • bcarreiro

    the right hates it because finally we have a president who wants to cut spending ………THEIR SPENDING.

  • Roger

    Christine what do you no about kook aid lol. this generation of people want to have the same tired prilvliages there current and fore parent had. There lazy, selfish, they hate this country & special poor people.

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