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10 Electors Demand Intelligence Briefing About Trump’s Ties To Russia

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Reprinted with permission from AlterNet. 

Ten members of the Electoral College, including nine Democrats and one Republican, have asked for an intelligence briefing about whether there are any ongoing investigations into Donald Trump’s relationship with Russia. Their demand comes in the wake of the bombshell CIA report that Russia did indeed interfere with the 2016 election to help Trump defeat Hillary Clinton. In a strongly worded letter, the group said such information is vital to their December 19th decision about whether Trump is fit to serve as the nation’s president, Politico reports.

The letter to Director of National Intelligence James Clapper reads in part:

“The Electors require to know from the intelligence community whether there are ongoing investigations into ties between Donald Trump, his campaign or associates, and Russian government interference in the election, the scope of those investigations, how far those investigations may have reached, and who was involved in those investigations. We further require a briefing on all investigative findings, as these matters directly impact the core factors in our deliberations of whether Mr. Trump is fit to serve as President of the United States.”

The letter is signed by electors from five states and the District of Columbia, including Nancy Pelosi’s daughter Christine, who is a Democratic elector from California. Former (and future) Congressmember Carol Shea-Porter from New Hampshire, who was recently elected to her old seat, also signed, along with three other New Hampshire colleagues—Terie Norelli, Bev Hollingsworth and Dudley Dudley. D.C. Councilwoman Anita Bonds, former Rhode Island gubernatorial candidate Clay Pell, Maryland activist Courtney Watson and Colorado Democratic elector Micheal Baca, leader of an effort to turn the Electoral College against Trump, are also on the list. The Republican signatory is Texas’ Chris Suprun, an emergency responder who has already gone public with his criticisms of Trump.

There is also a separate effort on the part of electors from California, Washington and Colorado to stop Trump. Two Democratic congressmen, Rhode Island’s David Cicilline of Rhode Island and Connecticut’s Jim Himes of Connecticut said this weekend that the Electoral College should seriously consider blocking Trump’s election in light of the new revelations.

One sitting Republican Senator who is very concerned about the latest intelligence revelations of Russian interference in our election to help Trump is John McCain. He called the hacking of Russian intelligence services into Democratic campaign e-mail accounts “another form of warfare,” according to the New York Times.

McCain, who chairs the Senate’s Armed Services Committee, also said that a Senate investigation into Russian hacking would be necessary, since the inquiry ordered by President Obama last week could very easily be discontinued in the Trump presidency.

The 538-member Electoral College is set to vote on December 19th.

IMAGE: Donald Trump speaks during the first debate. REUTERS/Lucas Jackson



  1. Godzilla December 12, 2016

    More Liberal nonsense. A good rule of thumb……if ten “electors” can’t vote for Trump, then the same could occur to HRC in States she won. Just like the election recounts achieved nothing, this is also NOTHING. There is no Russian attempt to interfere with the election. What cost HRC the election was what was in those leaked emails, not who provided them. More sorry excuses from a sorry group of butthurt losers.

    1. I Am Helpy December 12, 2016

      Yeah, if electors don’t vote for Trump because he’s openly a Russian puppet, they might not vote for Clinton for some reason! Also it’s great that you – an internet shut-in – have determined that there was no Russian interference in the election, contrary to the statements of every alphabet agency. It’s amazing that you were able to determine that despite having no applicable knowledge, no access to relevant records, and a two-digit IQ.

      1. johninPCFL December 13, 2016

        Sometimes you have to think about calling his dentist. I’m not sure which is the higher number, his tooth count or IQ?

        1. I Am Helpy December 13, 2016

          you gotta factor in the loss of teeth from meth usage, too.

    2. Aaron_of_Portsmouth December 12, 2016

      Just because you whine about reality doesn’t change it. But you just keep right on baying at the moon—it won’t improve Donald’s God-Awful situation.
      Russia’s hand-picked puppet, Trump, is highly questionable and his viability in jeopardy. Complaining about the news coverage won’t improve the situation.

      How much is a robot like yourself paid to complain on cue everyday??

      1. kep December 13, 2016

        How much do they pay morons like you to repeat regime propaganda, Comrade?

        1. Bill P December 13, 2016

          Not nearly the amount that you low information trolls are paid.Of course we can expect your standard non-answer, “Liberal lies”

          1. kep December 13, 2016

            I can’t imagine you commie trols get paid much. Parrots would be cheaper, with the same repetition of regime propaganda.

          2. Aaron_of_Portsmouth December 13, 2016

            Learn to spell and try to be a little more than a junior high student.

          3. kep December 13, 2016

            Lol. Been retired for some years now

          4. Bill P December 15, 2016

            Talk about parrots you trolls haven’t had an original thought in years. Your alias should be changed to Polly. You have yet provided any proof for your inane comments.

          5. kep December 15, 2016

            The only “proof ” any of you have presented is nothing but the same old, tired propaganda that the regime gives you. Considering that liberals do NOTHING but lie, I would question anything that comes from the regime, as should You.

          6. Bill P December 15, 2016

            I guess you forgot my reply to you a week or so ago. I listed how the U3 & U6 unemployment #’s went down under Obama, how there has been 74 straight months of job growth, how the stock market recovered and went on to record highs under Obama, how the US dollar exchange rate has gone up under Obama and how housing values have gone up under Obama. Your reply was “Liberal lies” without ever offering any proof. All that show is that you have nothing of value or proof to offer this site. You are a typical right wing troll who doesn’t believe anything that is not claimed in the fake news site and media.

          7. kep December 16, 2016

            More people in poverty. More people on food stamps. More people unemployed. Lowest home purchases. More debt. ALL under Emperor Obama. You really should try opening your eyes to the fact that our current regime lies.

        2. Dan S December 13, 2016

          Ok funny man you’re my latest block. Democrats are far more patriotic than Commie Donnie. That’s right fool you voted for a communist who will be President in name only. There’s a Civil War coming real soon & true Americans will fight for a just government that doesn’t lie to the people & denigrate the real news media that facts check their stories. Bye ????

          1. kep December 13, 2016

            Those true Americans will be fighting against commie liberals.
            You moronic creatures here are so entertaining. Rocks are smarter

          2. Aaron_of_Portsmouth December 13, 2016

            A lame response as usual. Kep. You persist in acting in a pathetic manner, never have an original thought or show any signs of insight, and must therefore be one lonely and pitiful little man desperate for attention.
            OK—I acknowledge that you exist and have nothing intelligent to say but regurgitating the GOP Party line which went stale decades ago.

          3. kep December 14, 2016

            Wow. You really are clueless. Seek help

          4. Aaron_of_Portsmouth December 14, 2016

            Wow—You really have sent out a lot of one-line nonsense. Don’t strain your mental capacities, because you may get a migraine.
            And the seek help is such a lame and lazy response. If you can’t take the time to exert your mind or if your brain lacks the get up and go, then retire to a cave and contemplate your navel—less stressful though not productive.

          5. kep December 14, 2016

            I find trying to have an exchange of ideas with liberals is an exercise in futility. You crazies are so indoctrinated you can’t think for yourselves. You spew whatever the regims tells you. One liners are all you deserve.

          6. Aaron_of_Portsmouth December 15, 2016

            Luddites had the same problem trying to cope with innovation and new ways of doing things at the dawn of the Industrial Age. Political and social luddites today have a similar problem adjusting to new ways of thinking that deviate from the status quo mantras.
            Kep, you’re a luddite in all phases.

          7. kep December 17, 2016

            I don’t wish to break up the machine because it is something new. I want to bust up the broken, corrupt machine, and to see it restored to what it was designed to be.

        3. Aaron_of_Portsmouth December 13, 2016

          Not as much as you are paid. And name-calling from a juvenile doesn’t negate what I put forth. So, keep baying at the moon like a coyote.

    3. Thoughtopsy December 13, 2016


      I see in your anti-factual allergic reaction that you haven’t considered the fact that Russia did actually interfere and the fact that they were interfering was known, discussed and briefings were given to Congress by all the letter agencies BEFORE THE ELECTION… when polls showed that Trump was unlikely to win.

      So before you hyperventilate over the sudden rise of a vast conspiracy to sink F**kface Von Clownstick using Russia as a fake reason… I suggest you consider that Russia did interfere according to the intelligence community, the importance of finding out the scope of how Russia interfered… and whether the Orange Sexual Predator was in on it.
      Or do you not want to know either way?
      Are you picking willful ignorance over knowing whether or not Putin has his hand up The Donald’s Solid Gold posterior?
      That’s not very American.

      See this was the same feeling when you morons chased Hillary’s emails for 3 years… and Benghazi for years before that.
      There was nothing there. It was an embarrassment.
      Yet… in the end, the truth came out. The Benghazi committee gave up, Comey helped elect Cheeto Jesus for you (apparently the intelligence community is on your side… until you need them to be the dark shadowy conspirators against your side… doh)… the emails were determined to be a lapse in judgement… and we can all move on.

      So if Hillary can avoid jail after 20 years of Republicans trying to put her there with every bit of money and influence they can scrounge up and endless stupid, money-wasting committee show-investigations… Don’t you think Dirty Donnie can manage a 2 month investigation into Russian connections if there’s nothing there to find?

      Or are you saying that he can’t handle 1/1000th of the scrutiny Hillary received??

      Are you saying you’re afraid that the minute they start turning over stones and looking under them they’re going to find oodles of dirty laundry and Russian connections…??

      Poor baby.
      Your “strongman” looks like a wimp if he can’t manage 0.1% of a job a woman successfully did.

      Then again… she was innocent….
      I think what you’re really worried about is that Trump is not.
      Which really really makes me wonder if you’re an American. You don’t seem to care that the CIA, FBI and other letter agencies ALL think there’s Russian interference with the election… or that there’s quite a bit of obvious public evidence to support Trump connections to Russia…
      Like these really really obvious connections….:

      – Manafort being a shady political fixer for Russian-backed Ukrainian Politicians…

      – Trump’s endless business ties with Russian businessmen in Putin’s actual inner circle…. Get it? He does business with guys that Putin knows PERSONALLY.

      – Trump’s son meeting with Pro-Russian Diplomats…

      – Russian politicians stating publicly that they were communicating with Trump’s campaign throughout….

      – Oh and don’t forget national security adviser Michael Flynn who was a paid contributor to RT, the Kremlin-funded television station.

      It’s extremely odd that you’re so against any investigation considering your boner for investigating Hillary…
      There was no obvious evidence for Hillary’s connection to anything to do with Benghazi… but you seemed totally keen to flog that dead horse with investigation after investigation, for years… and when the only thing they ever turned up was a private email server you seemed positively overjoyed to start endless investigations into that…. even though there was also no obvious connection or evidence of wrong doing… but you still HAD TO KNOW… BECAUSE THERE COULD BE SOMETHING IN THERE. And you also seemed dead keen to pursue that investigation until the heat death of the universe…
      Despite plenty of obvious public evidence linking Trump to Russia, and apparently plenty of letter agency evidence for Russian involvement in the election…. you seem suddenly to not want to investigate anything at all….
      How curious.

      On the other hand I am very much enjoying your distress over your candidate being accused of something you think he didn’t do, and him being investigated in what you feel is a targeted and unfair way.

      The schadenfreude is so thick I think I could dance on it.

      If you’re feeling like actually answering this post with actual rebuttal you could start with explaining why, in your view, this investigation shouldn’t go forward given the obvious Russian connections of Manafort being a Russian-adjacent political fixer known for propping up corrupt Ukrainian politicians, and Russia stating they were in touch with Trump’s campaign?

      Of course all I really expect from you is misdirection, insults and frothing bullsh!t, but one can dream.

      1. idamag December 13, 2016

        You are talking to someone who has proven not to be very bright. His picture was once his avatar. There is a slim strip of forehead between his eyebrows and his hairline. His claim to being smart enough to debate with the intelligentsia was he was a football player in high school. I have him blocked as he adds nothing to the discussion.

      2. 1standlastword December 13, 2016

        Damn! Your foot just went up his ass and out his mouth….One hard ass kicking ROFLMAO!!!!!!

        1. Thoughtopsy December 14, 2016

          I try. 🙂

          After being on this site for a few months I now have simple rules.

          Basically: Argue respectfully and politely, with evidence, with those who seem eager to learn, and understand our point of view.
          Expect polite and respectful exchanges of views with those people and hope to also learn from them in return.

          However once anyone shows they:
          – Use names, or ad hominem attacks.
          – Constantly misdirect and attempt to divert
          – Constantly ignore the points and do not answer them.
          – Use racist, bigoted or misogynist language.
          .. they go in the “Troll” category and there’s no more “respectful and polite” for them.

          There are some solidly bigoted ignorant pinheads that post here. (Godzilla, itsfun, etc) There are also some really bad trolls (possibly Russian).
          Neither group plays by the rules of honest polite communication, so they get no respect, and they get immediately called exactly what they are, as often as possible…. While still countering their points, and providing evidence.
          … And hopefully done in at least a mildly entertaining way, for everyone else reading posts here. 😉

          I’m not sure what else to do given that the trolls who are paid to be here and post their drivel, won’t leave if you just ignore them… they just keep posting. And posting.

          And those lazily ignorant posts, and those ethically compromised people, must be opposed… or this forum will end up full of garbage.

          Remember: The first goal of a paid Astroturfer/Troll is to divide, influence and argue…
          But if they can’t change minds and get people on their side, their second goal is to ruin the website or forum for everyone who won’t agree with them.
          That means filling it with images, memes, racism, and lies, until no-one wants to discuss anything here. In effect they shut it down with their hate spew.

          Not responding just means a higher and higher percentage of mindless Godzilla posts. *shiver*

      3. dpaano December 13, 2016

        Isn’t it amazing that whenever it’s something against Trump, his followers fight it all the way, but if the shoe were on the other foot and Hillary had won the election, these same idiots would be up in arms for another investigation into whatever they could come up with to invalidate her election! What’s Trump and his followers afraid of…..if he’s SO sure that there’s nothing there, then he shouldn’t be complaining about the investigation. He apparently has something to hide….much like his income tax returns…..and KNOWS that he could be caught and thrown out of the White House! Again, methinks he protesteths too much, and that MUST be a reason for that, don’t you think?

    4. Budjob December 13, 2016

      You are a person of rare intelligence.It is rare when you display any!

    5. Budjob December 13, 2016

      Republicans (AKA FASCISTS?NAZIS) are a coalition of the heartless,the clueless,and the confused! Seig Heil!

  2. 1standlastword December 12, 2016

    No partisan bullshit required! The battle lines have been drawn between Donald Trump and the democratic apparatus, comprised of the republican senate, democrats and now the Electoral College.

    Because we need proof it will be produced; there is a demand for it. With the synergy of the tech community and the intelligence community something of consequence will definitely be found to link Russia.

    This is very bad for the country no matter how it turns out and likely worse for Donald Trump.

    Imagine if he’s implicated along with Russia! He stands to lose all he has and will certainly be prosecuted. What an irony that the chants to “lock-her-up” might presage his future: Wearing an orange jumpsuit to match his complexion.

    Recall, he did call for Russia to (find) hack and release Clinton emails during the debate….”find the missing emails and release them”


    I think I’m going to be sick….

    1. Thoughtopsy December 13, 2016

      I’m excited. 🙂

    2. Dominick Vila December 13, 2016

      Don’t forget that his first wife was born in Czechoslovakia, and Melania was born in Slovenia when those countries were part of the Soviet Union. Is the bear from the East about to step in the White House without firing a shot? Perhaps we should pay more attention to all the conspiracy theories The Donald loves so much…only that this time, what happened to our election process went far beyond theory, and became reality!

      1. kep December 13, 2016

        Krushchev has already seen his prediction come to fruition. Liberals ARE communists sent here over the last 5 decades to “fundamentally transform ” America into a soviet style communist regime. Those that support liberals are doing so willingly, or are too stupid to know better. Which are you, Comrade?

        1. 1standlastword December 13, 2016

          I said “No partisan BULLSHIT required! Even Mitch “The Bitch” McConnell is on par with that rationale and so are all responsible rational Americans except those with a partisan agenda who propound pretzel logic the sort you spew out your ass!

          First, there is no… nor will there ever be a “Soviet style Communist regime in America; the concept belies something that doesn’t exist anywhere…sort of like a “Human-like-Martian-invasion”

          This country will always honor free market enterprise and where the government is involved it has always been a partnership.

          Lastly, JFK and Ronald Reagan were the bookends and common American pillars as POTUS against Communist expansion

          I think you should keep your powder dry for the Human-like-Martian-invasion coming to your neighborhood!

          1. kep December 13, 2016

            Lol. Do they feed you trolls heavy metals to keep you this stupid, or are all of you from the Chernobyl area of Russia?

        2. Bill P December 13, 2016

          I didn’t realize that you are actually a comedian. This is the funniest comment you have made. Thanks for the morning laugh.

        3. Dominick Vila December 13, 2016

          I am a very concerned American worried about the overt rise of Fascism in our country. Including the use of ridiculous analogies, embracing populist/nationalist themes, voter suppression, the use of subterfuges to win elections, efforts to silence the press, and other symptoms of totalitarianism that were apparent in Europe in the 1920s, 30s, and 40s.

          1. kep December 13, 2016

            Sounds just like what liberals have been doing for decades.

          2. Aaron_of_Portsmouth December 13, 2016

            Just a veritable font of idiocy gushing forth from “kep”, with endless one-liners of brainless prattle. Stick around, kep—you have an unusual degree of stamina for a masochist.

        4. Budjob December 13, 2016

          If ignorance is bliss,you must be one deliriously happy Son-of-a-Bitch!

        5. Aaron_of_Portsmouth December 13, 2016

          Kep, another witless comparison of apples with oranges. As for comrades, you need to ask Trump about his comrade in Russia.

          1. kep December 13, 2016

            Lol. More parroting. So entertaining, and yet, so sad .

        6. Budjob December 14, 2016

          I think you have the affiliation confused,as Trump is the one sucking Putin’s dick

          1. kep December 14, 2016

            Obama and Hillary would be most likely to do that. Liberals have shown that they will do ANYTHING to stay in power.

          2. Budjob December 14, 2016

            It is my understanding,that Trump likes Dictator Dick.They caught Trumps wife,MALARIA hooking in front of the Kremlin!

    3. kep December 13, 2016

      This is just liberals doing their worst in trying to keep power to finish their fundamental transformation of America into a soviet style communist regime. There was no hacking. What this is refering to was “leaking”. Hackers covertly alter and steal information, and leave no trace. Leakers release information from within.
      Liberal commies just want their gravy train to continue so they can continue to leach off of American taxpayers while destroying her from within.

      1. Bill P December 13, 2016

        Do you have ghost writer for your comical rants or do you think these comical thoughts up on your own?

      2. Budjob December 13, 2016

        Go polish your God-Damn swastika!!

        1. kep December 13, 2016

          Drink some more vodka, Comrade.

          1. Budjob December 14, 2016

            Are your parents cousins?

      3. Sam the Sham December 13, 2016

        Russian trolls, don’t bother. I and many others can see right through your bullshit.

        1. kep December 13, 2016

          Seeing that is all liberals seem to spew, you should be an expert in BS.

          1. Budjob December 14, 2016

            Nazi pig,Don’t worry if your mind wanders,it won’t get far!

      4. Thoughtopsy December 14, 2016

        You appear to have not posted any evidence… at all.

        1. kep December 14, 2016

          You have never posted any proof that you actually have a brain either.

          1. Thoughtopsy December 16, 2016

            Apparently you missed the part where I’m not making the argument that I have a brain… hence requiring proof of that argument.
            But hey… It’s to be expected from morons regurgitating wingnut media talking points.

            You on the other hand are saying things like:
            “There was no hacking. What this is refering [sic] to was “leaking”.”
            “Liberal commies just want their gravy train to continue so they can continue to leach off of American taxpayers while destroying her from within.”

            1) This is idiotic.
            2) What is provided without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
            3) You’re obviously not smart / working in IT because you fail at a basic level in your comprehension of Hackers and hacking.

            See, what you knuckle-draggers don’t realise is that your patriotic “feelings” and Infowars-inspired fever-dreams don’t actually constitute proof…. of anything. (Except perhaps how gullible and lacking in critical thinking skills you are)
            If you make ridiculous claims, you require ridiculously firm evidence to back those claims up… or you just get ridiculed for being a know-nothing moron.

            Answer me this if you’d like to prove you can argue at greater than a 5 year old level:
            –> What would you call it when someone targets a political party with a carefully constructed spear-phishing email then, once they take the bait, proceeds to steal all the digital information in their email system?

            I’ll hold my breath while you consider your options…

          2. kep December 16, 2016

            Didja thunk tat up all by yer own sef?

          3. Thoughtopsy December 17, 2016

            As predicted… You did not answer any point at all. Or my question.

            Sad troll. Doesn’t know how to argue. Doesn’t realise that everyone else here understands exactly what it means when someone avoids answering….

            You probably had to practice to be this dumb. I can’t see your extensive natural ability being enough.

  3. Dominick Vila December 13, 2016

    Ten out of 538 may not be enough to make a huge difference, but it shows that some among us still have the courage to stand for what is right; and are willing to confront a major threat head on, rather than dismiss it, and later pay the consequences, for ideological reasons…or worse.
    The Russian cyber attack we experienced goes well beyond the outcome of the 2016 election, which is bad enough. It raises many questions, and suggest many things that many of us are either ignoring or have trouble understandings. Why the Russia do this? Are we so vulnerable and incapable of preventing cyber attacks that we are incapable to retaliate in kind? If Russia can hack computerized systems in specific states, or hack the databases of our political parties – and those of individuals – at will, and release the information they wish to achieve their goals – should we assume that they can also alter the trajectory of our missiles, our bombers, our spy satellites, and render our missile silos obsolete? If what is being claimed is true, should we assume that the Cabinet nominations that Donald Narcissus Trump has been making are an acknowledgment of a major foreign threat. It really does not make too much sense to consider the nomination of an EXXON CEO to head the State Department considering what Russia just did, and the close ties that alleged nominee has with Putin and the Kremlin in general. What’s going on, and why are there only 10 electors pursuing this threat?

    1. Aaron_of_Portsmouth December 13, 2016

      I’ve been wondering the same thing re: cyber-warfare and the ease with which hackers are able to infiltrate to the extent they already have. This sort of breach demands a concerted response by all decent nations in the world against state-sponsored actors in Russia and its former satellite neighbors, China, N. Korea, and any other nation that harbors such activities.
      A united front of a measured retaliation against any aggressor nation(whether it be Russia, China, the United States, etc) in response to bullying, and a harsh response against aggression towards vulnerable minority elements within any nation’s borders like Syria, and others(including the United States’ aggressive policies within its boundaries), will be required to send a strong message that should deter future aggression and meddling for the purpose to destabilize.

      The U.N. is a big step towards applying in practice what Baha’u’llah said must take place in “The Lesser Peace”. But, the U.N. is hamstrung from being effective enough because of the artificial implementation of “Veto Power” which renders the U.N. a toothless tiger. A similar arrangement must now evolve to take us a step beyond the U.N. which itself was a step beyond “The League of Nations”.

      An excerpt from the Tablet enunciating the prerequisite for attaining a degree of stability under this framework is the following, written in the latter half of the 19th Century:

      “…Now that ye have refused the Most Great Peace, hold ye fast unto this, the Lesser Peace, that haply ye may in some degree better your own condition and that of your dependants.

      O rulers of the earth! Be reconciled among yourselves, that ye may need no more armaments save in a measure to safeguard your territories and dominions. Beware lest ye disregard the counsel of the All-Knowing, the Faithful.

      Be united, O kings of the earth, for thereby will the tempest of discord be stilled amongst you, and your peoples find rest, if ye be of them that comprehend. Should anyone among you take up arms against another, rise ye all against him, for this is naught but manifest justice… ”

      1. dpaano December 13, 2016

        We also have to blame Assange and WikiLeaks for their part in this whole thing. They took e-mails that they were given (and we can only assume they got them from Russia and/or China), changed them so that they sounded worse than they might have already been, and then published them! If these lies put out by this guy and his website didn’t damage Hillary’s campaign, I don’t know what else would have! Even Podesta has said that the e-mails, as published by WikiLeaks, were incorrect and were taken completely out of context! So, we not only have to blame Russian and/or China, but we also have to blame these types of websites that publish lies! We need to also go after those individuals who think putting our false news is a fun thing to do! When someone is murdered because of these false news pieces, maybe someone will take a closer look and do something!

        1. Aaron_of_Portsmouth December 13, 2016

          Right—Assange is one of the rogue elements in the world who has nothing better to do with his life than cause trouble in order to be in the spotlight. It’s an ego thing with Assange and he needs to throw his weight around to impress people.

    2. Beethoven December 13, 2016

      Underlying the creation of the electoral college by the writers of our Constitution, the electors were supposed to make an independent evaluation of the candidates and vote for the one each elector deemed most fit to hold the office, not to simply follow blindly the dictates of their political party, or even the dictates of the voters who elected them. If there is hard evidence that Donald Trump does in fact have ties to the Russian government and cooperated in Russia’s attempt to rig or sway the election in his favor, then Donald Trump should be tried for treason, and if any elector blindly votes for him without attempting to find out if there is evidence he committed treason, then that elector should be considered an accessory to the crime of treason.

      1. dpaano December 13, 2016

        Our current Congress has done so many things the past 8 years that could put them in jail, and nothing has been done. Look at the letter they wrote to Iraq, the invitation of the Israeli politician to speak before Congress, speaking out during a State of the Union address and calling our president a liar, and I could go on and on about their lack of decorum. But, again, nothing has been done to them even when their discretions were so blatant! Not sure who we have to blame for this….maybe President Obama was afraid he would cause a serious rift between himself and Congress if he did take action….who knows? All I know is that it’s now become the “norm” to do treasonous things and get away with it!

    3. dpaano December 13, 2016

      I think a lot of them are afraid to actually speak out. Trump wields quite a bit of power, and he can do a lot of harm to people. All he has to do is say the word to his followers and they do whatever he “insinuates” they should do. He’s just one tweet away from anything he want to do to people who don’t agree with him….I’d be scared too!

    4. Charlotte Sines December 14, 2016

      I heard today that 30 or 40 more have signed onto the letter. I don’t remember which but it sounds like more electors might be standing up and demanding the briefings.

  4. idamag December 13, 2016

    Yes, electors, the future of your country is in your hands, Demand briefings.

  5. Sam the Sham December 13, 2016

    Excuse me if I’m wrong, but I think that this is exactly why we need the Electoral College. It would actually justify the College’s existence if they had, collectively, enough backbone and nonpartisan sense to reject a dangerous president-elect. The College threw the election to Trump unfairly, because he lost by nearly 3 million votes. If they denied Trump the office due to his manifest unfitness, it would be justifying its existence as a check on an uninformed populace.

    1. Aaron_of_Portsmouth December 13, 2016

      How does an electoral college perform voting better than each “qualified” voter in the country? Is the American voter so incompetent that she/he can’t be relied on to vote directly and correctly w/o an intervening entity stepping in to cast the vote for said choice??

      1. Sam the Sham December 13, 2016

        Have you ever heard of jury nullification? It’s when a jury hands down an irrational decision, and the judge is required to step in and force the system to ignore the verdict. It is highly unusual, but so is a candidate like Donald “conflicts” “Russian mole” Trump.

        1. Aaron_of_Portsmouth December 13, 2016

          That’s all very interesting, but the thrust of my contention is that we wouldn’t even have to be debating the outcome if this artificial device(Electoral College) had been discarded long ago as it should have.

          1. Sam the Sham December 14, 2016

            Yeah, it should have been. But to amend the Constitution requires a 3/4 majority of state governments, and I’m sure you don’t think that the smaller-population states who have all this power would go along with it.

  6. dpaano December 13, 2016

    Not only is McCain concerned, but also McConnell and Ryan! That says something to me. These people are concerned, and the people in the Electoral College should ALSO be concerned. After all, they are charged with deciding whether or not to vote for Trump this month and making a valid decision. They SHOULD be allowed to get a briefing on what is going on! I applaud their request and can only hope that they get the information that they need to make a valid decision. After all, they speak for the entire nation and NOT just for the individual parties!

    1. Aaron_of_Portsmouth December 13, 2016

      More stupid drivel.

      1. Thoughtopsy December 14, 2016

        As expected.
        I’ve blocked him.
        What’s the point of giving him even the split second it takes to recognise willful ignorance and laziness, and move on?

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