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Imagine my narcissism. I’m pretty sure that I helped the singularly most unqualified candidate for the presidency win the office, defeating — by a very slim margin in crucial states, and with a losing share of the popular vote — one of the most qualified, a woman whose election alone would have been one of the great moments in American history. And I’m sorry.

Let me explain how I know I helped Donald Trump get elected.

This spring, an Irish friend invited me to a bar in Helsinki, Finland to have a beer with his friends, an American expatriate who’d married a Finnish woman — a leading cause of immigration to the Nordic nation. Like almost everyone we knew, we laughed about Donald Trump. Then like people from liberal nations all over the world, they sought assurance from any actual American resident they could find we wouldn’t elect this maniac to replace Barack Obama. I felt it was my job to assure them, and they seemed thankful for the slight relief.

After a couple more beers, I did something ridiculous. I revealed my secret identity: I’m @LOLGOP, I explained, a nobody who makes dumb jokes about conservatives on Twitter.

The American expatriate pal seemed a bit amused but shifted to get comfortable in his seat again.

“You know,” he said. “They laughed at Hitler.”

“Yeah, I know.”

I let him know that the way the intelligentsia and artists had laughed at Hitler and perhaps had enabled him had become, briefly, a popular subject of conversation among liberals online. Then I recalled the chilling moment in the musical Cabaret when the facade of hedonism and decadence is shattered by the crowd rising in near unison with the Hitler Youth to sing “Tomorrow Belongs To Me” — revealing both the chauvinistic allure and implacability of the movement that transformed one of the most advanced civilizations into one of the most savage.

“Good,” the expatriate. “I’m glad you know that.”

But I forgot it.

I spent the next half a year mocking Trump’s hypocrisy, inconsistency and comic unfitness for office and the delusion of anyone who imagined otherwise. And — worst of all — I invested tens of thousands of words in the cause of explaining that Donald Trump just could not win.

We were too smart to be conned by him, at least compared to GOP primary voters. Our immune system would seize upon him, I promised anyone who’d listen, with great vengeance and render him into his proper place among history’s great punchlines.

I was wrong and did the exact opposite of what my duty was: I should have been warning you that he could win and what would happen to this country if we were unable to stop him. I should have been knocking on doors every chance I got and encouraging others to do the same. I doubt my trickle of influence would have meant a damn thing, but at least I wouldn’t have been Donald Trump’s accomplice.

I doubt I’ll ever forgive myself for the mistakes I’ve made, but — like you — now all I can do is fight back.

Here is what I think we need to do next.

1. Admit to yourself that Trump and the GOP are much more powerful than we imagined.
Just about every candidate who got in a fight with Donald Trump over the last 16 months lost. He tore down their careers, their personalities, their families. And he helped destroy their approval ratings. You can say that Bernie Sanders is still the most popular politician in America who isn’t Michelle Obama and he could have beaten Trump. Maybe. Trump wouldn’t have had FBI Director James Comey, Wikileaks, and Vladimir Putin on his side in the war to destroy Bernie. But he had a plan and it involved name-calling, of course. There’s a unique power in a man fueled by a monstrous lust for power who has none of the worries most of us possess when it comes to money or conscience. We’ve never experienced anything like this before in American history. Trump cloaked his financial obligations and is promising to continue as president with his business interests still directly controlled by his family. He not only embraced Putin’s foreign policy goals, he justified Putin’s authoritarianism as a model of governance. And he figured out how to get the Republican Party and its vast network of power and influence on the side of Putinism with the simple promise of their choices of Supreme Court Justices and generous tax cuts for the rich. The Koch brothers’ Kochtopus allegedly “sat out” this election, except for the tens of millions of dollars they helped pour into the Senate elections, including decisive wins in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. You’d think their “libertarianism” would be offended by a president who rages against the rights of anyone but himself, but their family’s history of abetting despots seems more relevant than ever. Even the Comey letter, a disgraceful intervention into a free election, appears to be the result of right-wing influence within our own government trying to destroy a candidate for president. And the assault on voting rights — which was almost completely ignored by the media — may have provided just enough help in the margins to keep a significant number of minority voters home. We assumed demographics would destroy a party that relies almost entirely on white voters. But we have to face the reality that we “may be in a reinforcing feedback loop of growing inequality and Republican rule.”

2. Realize that you can’t sit this out. There are risks for you and your family.
The newly elected president of the United States is already attacking the New York Times, again. Ask the few Republicans who remained steadfastly against Trump what sort of abuse and threats they’ve faced. Trump fans have been directed to take on the press and they’ve done so joyously, targeting minorities, women, and Jewish journalists with particular viciousness. And among the hundreds of people Trump has attacked via Twitter, he’s never once taken on the white supremacist forces that back him. Instead, he’s graciously retweeted them dozens of times. Soon, he will have the power of the greatest military and law enforcement machine ever assembled by humanity. First, it seems, he’ll go after the DREAMers — young undocumented Americans brought here as kids. Next, the Muslims? National stop-and-frisk? A new drug war? A 21st century “Alien and Sedition” Act? We are facing something entirely unprecedented here. Trump has campaigned on abridging our rights and as a writer who studied actual Putinism reminds us, the first rule of surviving in an autocracy is “Believe the autocrat.” He’s going to do what he says. Life is hard enough. You may not want to get on his or his lackeys’ radar. But you have to recognize that not everyone has that choice. And you may not have it forever.

3. Realize that millions of your neighbors cannot sit this out.
Millions are threatened with deportation. Millions will lose their health insurance. Millions of poor people will find that their few reproductive rights will begin evaporating. Most of the advances of the LGBTQ community are now at risk. The rights of free worship, free speech, and free assembly have all been questioned and threatened. We know Trump will lie to justify anything he needs to do to maintain his self-esteem. And he’s making allegiance with nationalist, ethnocentric right-wing movements across the globe. We know he will accept no defeat and may begin to attack the foundations of our government that do not bend to his whims. In 2004, after George W. Bush was re-elected, the left was distraught. But we never imagined that there might not be a chance to elect a new president in four years. Now we have to accept that the prospect of American democracy being quickly eroded is very real.

4. We need to fight, everything.
For now, our institutions exist. There is still another Senate election that will be held this year. Every vote that Trump cannot count on in the Senate is a hedge against his power, until he abandons the normal bounds of our Constitution. Republicans can do many horrible things with 51 votes in our upper house. But a number of Republican Senators have proven resistant to Trump in the past and would likely not want to surrender the filibuster to him or give him a free hand to appoint anyone he choses. So let’s make him pay for every unpopular policy choice he embraces and build a fortress of resistance around the cornerstones of the middle class. We need to scream about the trillions in tax breaks he’s about to give to the richest, who have never been richer. We have to defend Medicare and Social Security from any cut proposed. Defunding Planned Parenthood is coming. The pain and dismay will be real. And then never let voters forget what’s been taken away from them. And we need to make sure Democrats know they should not vote for any repeal or replacement of Obamacare that takes health insurance away from one American. The way to do that is with phone calls. The way to do the rest is more complicated.

5. You can’t rebuild liberalism yourself but you can get out and be a part of what does.
Tweeting and Facebook aren’t enough. I’m speaking to myself mostly here. Getting off my ass is paramount. Volunteering at Planned Parenthood or the ACLU is a start. Getting involved in politics directly, in your precinct committee or county party is essential — as is traveling out of the circles you normally travel in to understand how many millions of people who were smart enough to vote for Barack Obama cast a ballot for Donald Trump. The right wing has professionalized politics with think tanks, non-profits and publications that are supported by hundreds of millions of dollars. (You can’t counter that alone. Unless you’re a rich bigwig with influence in the national Democratic movement. In that case, get to work.) We have to find a way to replace the crucial ballasts of unions and strong public education to make it clear to working people of all races that only one party has their interests in mind. Peaceful protests are fantastic if they are the beginning of a grind. A daily grind. A weekly grind. A monthly grind. Whatever you can grind. Get out. Being with people matters. (Again, mostly speaking to myself here.) We cannot forget that the Congressional maps will be redrawn in the next 5 years. We can’t let this opportunity, if our system, exists slip by. We need to elect Democratic governors in states like Michigan, Florida, and Pennsylvania to have any hope of winning Congress again and fixing what Trump and the GOP are about to do.

I’m sorry for the horrors I did too little to prevent from being unleashed. Now I have to do better — and I hope we can do it together.

IMAGE: A boy holds a sign during a protest against President-elect Donald Trump at Golden Gate Park in San Francisco, California, U.S. November 13, 2016. REUTERS/Beck Diefenbach

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  1. AgLander November 14, 2016

    The author of this article perfectly captures the core essence of liberalism. Liberalism is based on pure snooty condescension….in fact it drips with condescension.

    “We know what type of car you should drive, we know what type of showerhead, toilet and light bulbs you should use. We know what’s best for you in health care and insurance choices. We know what fuel you must use to heat your house. We know, so simply stop resisting and just do what we say because we are more intelligent than you. And we can prove we are more intelligent than you because that’s what we liberals hear from our other liberal friends when we meet regularly at Starbucks and sip our overpriced lattes with one another as we congratulate each other on our liberal arts degrees received in areas like History, Psychology, English, Art History and Sociology. We are smart….we really are!”

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    1. FireBaron November 14, 2016

      Isn’t that what many of Trump’s followers are already engaged in?

      1. Godzilla November 14, 2016

        Most of us are just watching all you F-ing crybabies whine like little 3 year olds who had your lollypop stolen. Get over it, you lost. The people have rejected Liberalism and all of it’s failures. Good riddance.

        1. pisces63 November 14, 2016

          NO, we won. You lost. This black woman is going to sit back and watch him screw you on everything. He is already starting. WE won the popular vote and the last time this happened we got Iraq, ISIS, unpaid for wars, etc. With a racist on his group, because he could not pick just one, had to have two, he has spoken volumes to me. KKK is planning a march in celebration. Anti-Semitism is on the rise. Seig Heil. You done good. Now go re-read Mein Kaumf!!

          1. Mama Bear November 14, 2016

            These people are trolls, pisces, and they are here to generate anger and fear. Block them and they will go away. But please don’t stop commenting – I am now your #1 fan.

        2. Budjob November 14, 2016

          The entire ONCE GREAT DEMOCRACY has lost including you! The inept,incompetent Fascist that you voted for is on course to destroy the United States of America,and,people with your mentality are too stupid to realize it!

          1. Jon November 14, 2016

            It’s kinda funny that Trumpanzee considers 25.6% of voters to represent “the people”. Just one more example of the defective functioning brains of these animals. The only thing 25.6% of voters want is an end to the democracy patriotic Americans support and its replacement with the Trump fascist movement.

        3. Jon November 14, 2016

          You made a glaring mistake. You meant to say 25.6 % of the population have rejected patriotism in favor of fascism.

      2. itsfun November 14, 2016

        As Obama said “elections have consequences – get use to it”. Doesn’t saying President Trump have a nice ring to it.

        1. pisces63 November 14, 2016

          Nope, I have values and I cannot comprehend a racist, pedophile, liar, thief, sexual assaulter, destroyer of small businesses, out sourcing of his goods to other countries as president. It has nothing to do with party. Morals. he has none. It is insulting. Just as most of you bigots did not address president Obama as such his first term, I will do the same for his term. Amoral Trump!! Don’t EVER preach values to me, again.

          1. Mama Bear November 14, 2016

            pisces, don’t let these trolls get under your skin. If you do they win. Block them.

          2. itsfun November 14, 2016

            Don’t read what I post then. I will post and “preach” anything I want. Get use to it.

          3. Budjob November 14, 2016

            ratsass,Republicans/Fascist,as you appear to be,are a collection of the heartless.the clueless,and the confused

          4. itsfun November 14, 2016

            Like I care about Socialists and Communists like you preach.

          5. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            It remains to be seen who is really in bed with the Communists.

          6. pisces63 November 14, 2016

            Preach on. Who gives a rat’s ass, I do not. I’ve proven my point. You hate to admit it’s true. As in Hamilton, the song The World’s Turned Upside Down, What you equated with democrats is now the republicans base. hands out. begging. Drugging. wife beating. Children on drugs. Not us. YOU!! Po’ white people looking for a handout. They REALLY think trump will help. THAT is pathetic. When a top republican was asked where did personal responsibility go. He said we will eventually get back to that. REALLY!!

          7. itsfun November 14, 2016

            You haven’t proven anything. You are just trying to use one of the liberal big 5 of yelling racism, bigotry, hate, other name calling and trying to find someone to blame for the failures of the Democratic party. Your hate and racism are showing through with these types of posts. Get use to hearing President Trump.

          8. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            Hey……where’s the ‘Proof’ Mr. Pence promised? He’s not a liar too, is he? Maybe he just promised something he couldn’t deliver like Mr. Trump.

          9. itsfun November 14, 2016

            Proof of what?

          10. Jon November 14, 2016

            I admire your effort but you are never going to penetrate the racist bubble he lives in.

      3. Todd Nelson November 14, 2016

        No, those were Mrs. Clinton’s thugs paid to disrupt Trump rallies. It is George Soros who is paying the violent demonstrators to riot against Trump after the election.

        1. Jon November 14, 2016

          Cuckoo. Cuckoo.

          1. Bill P November 14, 2016

            I was going to reply to Todd but couldn’t say it better than you did.

          2. Jon November 14, 2016

            Where do these wackos come from? Their versions of the “truth” are so far from reality I question their mental health.

    2. Aware November 14, 2016

      Sour Grapes….The sore losers are presenting a whole new host of problems. Can’t the country Just heal and go forward? This negative childish uproar is unacceptable.

      1. Mama Bear November 14, 2016

        seriously? I’m laughing at your comment so hard I can hardly contain it. Do you not see the irony in what you are saying? The president elect spent at least the last year encouraging hate and violence against anyone who is not white male or a white male’s mate. And now all is well, just move on? Don’t think so.

      2. Budjob November 14, 2016

        Just remember one thing,if,this dissent would have occurred in pre WW2 Germany,there is a possibility that the insane Fascist/Nazi,would never have ascended to power,and destroyed millions of lives.WW2 claimed over 500,000 GOOD American lives during this time period! I am a veteran,and have taken my flag down,and folded it up.It is apparent that the inmates have gained control of the asylum! Good -bye,and,good luck.

        1. Mama Bear November 14, 2016

          please don’t give up.

        2. Jon November 14, 2016

          We have to continue fighting the fascist Trump movement. My dad and 3 of my uncles are WWII vets. Two uncles are Korean war vets. I have 2 cousins and a stepbrother who are Vietnam vets. Some of my brothers, cousins, nieces and nephews have fought in the Iraq wars and in Afghanistan. Not all of them came back in the same condition they were in when they were deployed. You never put your life on the line for this country and neither did they for the Trump fascist movement.
          What they fought for was freedom guaranteed by our Constitution and to stop threats to the freedom of others in the world. In battle they fought for their brothers and sisters in arms no matter what their religion, skin color, politics, or immigration status. They were all Americans 1st, last, and forever.
          None of the surviving vets in my family support Trump. In fact some have a burning hatred of the man and everything he represents.
          While Trump represents a danger to everything good about America and makes us a laughing stock in the eyes of the rest of the world, we can’t retreat and let the man who dodged the draft and was deemed unfit for service destroy everything that our brave men and women have fought and died to preserve. We owe at least that much to those who never made it home. Don’t let their deaths be in vain.
          While things look bad now with Republicans holding the presidency, both houses of congress and soon the Supreme Court as well as the majority of state governments, veterans out manned and out gunned in battle have faced much worse but through strength, ingenuity, spirit, and perseverance prevailed despite the odds. This is a different kind of battlefield. Hopefully no bullets will be flying on this one. Still it is important that we join together as patriotic Americans and fight by all legal means necessary to protect and preserve our democracy.

    3. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

      You’re correct about the rioting – it’s insane. You’re way off base when you talk about liberalism. Simply put – it’s about society helping each other and if you can’t grasp the fact that natural resources are finite and the preservation of the environment are vital to survival, then you really have your head up your butt.

      1. itsfun November 14, 2016

        Liberalism is about Socialism and nothing more. Take from the earners and give to the ass sitters.

        1. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

          ConNAZism? That’s when hicks like you take our tax dollars because you are too goddamn lazy to get an education and get real jobs.

          1. itsfun November 14, 2016

            More filthy talk from the queen of filth. Doesn’t saying President Trump have a nice ring to it.

          2. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            Almost as nice as “Heil Trump”.

        2. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

          You mean like the people who lost their jobs because of the Republican deregulation of the banking industry and then got extended unemployment benefits so they weren’t committing crimes to feed their children? Or maybe you’re referring to the folks that were able to stave off foreclosure and stay in their homes. Perhaps it’s about not spending BILLIONS of dollars a month fighting a war started by lies and then billions more rebuilding what we destroyed with our bombs as our own infrastructure crumbles.

          1. itsfun November 14, 2016

            Obama is the only President to have the United States in a war for every year of his terms. Obama has let our infrastructure to crumble. He has had 8 years and done nothing to fix that problem. Am talking about healthy people choosing to sit on their butts instead of looking for work. If you check back the balloon mortgages that Barney Frank demand be given to people that the banks and mortgage companies said the people could not afford caused the many foreclosures.

          2. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            And you be crying louder about the national debt. And you must also know that nobody forced the banks to lower their underwriting standards to reap the windfall created buy the huge increase of mortgages.

          3. itsfun November 14, 2016

            Ever heard of Barney Frank and Franklen

          4. pisces63 November 14, 2016

            There you go. republicans started that war in Iraq and already had Afghanistan going which makes your first statement a lie. He did not let the infrastructure crumble. Bigots, like klackker McConnell said not to work with him and they did not. Boy, I love revisionist history. Just as they walked out on Chris Stevens request for shoring up embassies and consulates was ignored the night before he died. Republicans walked out and ignored him. Now, blame Hillary for their malfeasance. You need to watch the movie The Big Short with Christian Bale and Steve Carell and find out what actually happened and it had nothing to do with any president other than the none disclosure law passed. NO ONE demanded banks sell anyone that type do mortgage. No one put a gun to the heads of the bankers. The thought of 300% growth rate in profits drove this. Then, amazingly, you had people betting AGAIMST the housing bubble. One guy made over 400% betting on the fail. You cannot make up this stuff. I have watched that movie and Too Big to Fail so many times and I still do not get what they did to destroy this economy but it was not a president or senator. A broker driving through her high end territory showing off her wins. I first sold this one for $350K, turned it over for $475K, A stripper had five properties with 2 mortgages on each. Except for the none disclosure bill signed by Clinton, put forth by republicans, all the banks greedy fault and they are at it again as we speak.

          5. itsfun November 14, 2016

            Barney and his buddy did threaten the banks with congressional investigations and fines if they didn’t bow down to them. Of course some people made money on these failures. It called doing business. People go into business to make a profit, a better life for their families, etc.

          6. pisces63 November 14, 2016

            I get that. I understand making money but the money made and the 8 million homes lost and not all by sub prime is obscene. The AAA bonds were deliberately not down graded which made it even worse. I’m sorry. No matter WHAT they threatened, I would not put my business in jeopardy for people who cannot afford it. Maybe I have too much sense and honor with that.

          7. itsfun November 14, 2016

            It was a terrible thing. and ended up destroying more people than it helped. I agree with everything you just said. I couldn’t look into a mirror if I destroyed that many families.

          8. Bill P November 14, 2016

            As usual I have to correct your erroneous claim that President Obama was the only president to have the United States in a war for every year of his terms. The Iraq war started in 3/2003 and the US ended combat operations in 8/2010. Also fixing the infrastructure requires funds that the Republican Congress never voted for. Can have a project without the funds.

        3. pisces63 November 14, 2016

          I’m sorry. I have my degree. My sisters have theirs. Our children have theirs and the last will next year. No drugs. No welfare. All upper middle class. It was white people whining about no jobs. wife beating. Drugs. Because they could not find a job and were unwilling to learn a trade to get another. They really think this idiot is going to bring back those manufacturing jobs that have been leaving since the late 60’s. I still work at 67. My children have fabulous jobs. We are democrats. What you wrote fits trumpsters not me and mine. Try again.

          1. itsfun November 14, 2016

            Where did I say one thing about degrees, drugs, or welfare? Where did I say anything about race?? What I wrote fits Socialists who want to give what you and I earn to those that refuse to even try to earn. You must be one of the lucky people that loves their jobs by working at your age.

          2. pisces63 November 14, 2016

            Most of the people who voted for Trump. This isn’t from me. I hadn’t a clue these people felt so badly or felt short changed. You do not have to mention degrees. It is built in. Any democrat wants this or are this. I am not. My family is not. when things were horrible we buckled down and worked harder and did not whine for help!! IF my husband had sat still as these people are doing, waiting for his plant to miraculously come back with it’s wonderful $5,000. bonus a year and rising at the time we would be vilified. Where are our personal responsibilities? He took less paying jobs with barely any benefits to make it. I got back into the job market at 38. I was a housewife for the first 14 years of my marriage. I love my job. Health insurance. I love the business. May retire next year. 30 years.

      2. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

        Gerry, it is way more than that. Right now you have right wingers living off our tax dollars and making us pay for the obsolete industries that keep their states afloat.

        It comes down to them taking control of this country on our TAX dollars.

        1. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

          Sorry we disagree. Many good, hard working people have been helped by liberal policies. I’m sorry that there is such division here. If we’re to continue as a country we have to get past this and move forward.

          1. Mama Bear November 14, 2016

            are you really suggesting that “move forward” means following like sheep while watching others being hurt? I seriously feel sorry for your offspring.

          2. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            I’m on your side, remember? All I’m saying is that rioting is pointless and only discredits everything you and I believe in.

          3. Mama Bear November 14, 2016

            I do not believe anyone here is advocating rioting, Gerry. I’ve read thru every single post and don’t see it.

          4. JPHALL November 14, 2016

            What rioting? Most have been peaceful. There are always a few people who take advantage of a situation. Do not blame all for the actions of a small group.

          5. Gerry Francis November 15, 2016

            A riot is a riot which means “rioting”. Doesn’t matter how many people or in how may places there is as riot, it is still rioting. Get it?

          6. JPHALL November 16, 2016

            Define riot. Just using the word is meaningless. Is a peaceful demonstration a riot. School, children voicing their fears? Or, like in Portland when police use gas and bullets against marchers? Like I said where were actual riots, you know massive police resources used to clear the streets and massive damage to property.

          7. JPHALL November 19, 2016

            WOW! Is that all you got? A bunch of White people in
            Portland? I thought you had another Ferguson or Baltimore!

          8. Gerry Francis November 20, 2016

            Like I said before – A riot is a riot which means ‘rioting”. Doesn’t matter how many people or in how many places there is a riot, it’s still rioting.

          9. JPHALL November 20, 2016

            PATHETIC! You equate someone complaining about a couple of hundred school children marching down the street with a few thousand setting fires and looting. Having to call out the National guard to restore order is the same as letting people march to a rally at city hall. You are so one sad whiner!

          10. Gerry Francis November 21, 2016

            Actually, it’s pathetic that in the face of clear information describing what happened in Portland as a riot, you simply refuse to accept the fact. Since it seems that you MUST be correct and deny facts, take your closed mind with your blinders on and go ahead and feel as though you’ve won.

          11. JPHALL November 21, 2016

            I NEVER CLAIMED PORTLAND WAS NOT A RIOT. You claimed there were several riots yet can only name Portland. Pathetic!

          12. Gerry Francis November 22, 2016

            Copy and paste ANYWHERE I said there were several riots. You can’t because I didn’t. Pathetic.

          13. JPHALL November 22, 2016

            So the truth is you cannot name any other riots.

          14. Gerry Francis November 22, 2016

            Copy and paste ANYWHERE I said there were several riots. You can’t because I didn’t.

          15. JPHALL November 22, 2016

            AS I HAVE CONTINUALLY ASKED YOU FROM THE BEGINING, NAME THEM! YOU KNOW, ALL THESE RIOTS YOU ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT. YOU CAN’T. SO GOODBYE LOSER!

          16. Gerry Francis November 23, 2016

            There is something wrong with you. What riots did I complain about? I said that rioting is not the answer and I also said there were demonstrations in various city’s. Maybe you’re confused because I mentioned rioting in several different posts? Regardless, a riot is a riot which is rioting. As you said in one of your posts – “You have nothing yet you continue to argue”.

          17. Gerry Francis November 22, 2016

            Actually, you did. “PATHETIC! You equate someone complaining about a couple of hundred
            school children marching down the street with a few thousand setting
            fires and looting.”

          18. JPHALL November 22, 2016

            You have nothing, yet you continue to argue. Pathetic.

          19. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

            I don’t want to continue as a country always run by Republicans. How much more control do they plan to take from us? This is a government. Not a business.

            They already have total control of the House, the Senate, the FBI and soon the DOJ and SC. What in the hell do you call that if not a dictatorship? Where do our voices in government come into play in that kind of control?

          20. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            I understand. It’s really hard for both you and I to accept that as a society our moral values have eroded to the point that American Electorate not only condones the actions of the President Elect during the campaign, but REWARDS them with the Presidency. And this from the Republicans – the stewards of morality.

          21. Jon November 14, 2016

            In this case I think it could also be described as a kleptocracy. They will enrich themselves at the expense of the nation.

          22. dpaano November 15, 2016

            It’ll be hard to “move forward” when Trump will be moving everyone backwards! If we keep moving forward while he’s in charge, we may be back to where we started from when President Obama steps aside!

    4. pisces63 November 14, 2016

      Give me a break. When I realized what you idiots were whining about was amazed. You cannot get black lung, now. You are on drugs because you do not have a job. You beat your wives. No jobs. Your children are meth heads or heroine addicts or addicted to some self medication because you had no personal responsibility and you REALLY think this idiotic amoral, no values, sexual offender, bigot, racist(not the same), illiterate will get them back? REALLY!! Look at Flint, Michigan. Look at Cleveland , Ohio, my city. My husband’s job moved in 1982 when we were about to buy our first home. We had three children and I was a stay at home mom. They left, this time of year. did I whine? Did I moan? No? I have talents and one is I can cook. I turned on my oven. My kids would not miss Christmas and I would have my family Thanksgiving. I baked and sold cookies, cakes, pies, rolls and I mean 60 different type of Christmas cookies from sugar, to candy canes to you name it. cakes from German Chocolate to sour cream pound cakes, regular pound cakes, rum cakes, etc. I made over $2,000 by Christmas. When our youngest started school, I got a job and will retire after 30 years next year. My husband got a number of jobs until he got the right one. HE even had the guts to leave Ohio, go the Nashville, get a great job and sent money home while still looking for work here until he got it. WE bought our home ten years later and put three kids through college. IF I hear one more of you lying, hypocrites castigating black people about this, I will scream. You do not hear one person in Flint whining. They had the wealthiest population in the country and 70% black. Jobs moved and they have not come back and all they get is poisoned by uncaring white republicans. Hold your breath waiting for him to bring BACK HIS jobs he shipped out to Asia and Mexico. All my cheese is gone.

      1. Mama Bear November 14, 2016

        your passion and your courage is awesome! thank you.

        1. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

          Some of us will go down fighting like hell. I don’t have a lot of years left. But, I will be damned if I will let the most uneducated people in this country turn everything I worked half my life for into their personal piggy banks.

          1. Mama Bear November 14, 2016

            I will be right beside you all the way…if I live longer than you I promise I will not stop fighting.

      2. AgLander November 14, 2016

        You do realize that your long list of bigoted characterizations is EXACTLY the reason you got your butt handed to you in the election, don’t you? If you and your party’s contempt for such a huge swath of Americans continues, you will never see another Democrat win the presidency again.

        1. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

          Just how do you think you will FORCE us to accept Trump when we KNOW he is a liar, thief and racketeer? What do you asshats plan to do? Brainwashing? Waterboarding?

          Try it. I dare you!

          1. AgLander November 14, 2016

            Force you? Why? We don’t need you. You are on the scrap heap of politics and have no power. Why would you even think we care about you. You’re junk yard material….just like one of your smelly, steaming NJ landfills that keep you awake at night from the odor!

          2. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

            Good. Then you also won’t need our tax dollars either right? We are already talking about having our tax dollars held up from your states. Make it on your own mongrel dog.

          3. AgLander November 14, 2016

            “Our tax dollars?’ I doubt you pay taxes…..you have no proven source of income other than government transfer payments.

          4. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

            Read and weep scumbag: From Wikipedia: The 10 highest income tax states on the FTA’s 2016 list were:

            Minnesota 9.85%

            Iowa 8.98%

            New Jersey 8.97%

            Vermont 8.95%

            District of Columbia 8.95%

            New York 8.82%

            Hawaii 8.25%

            Wisconsin 7.65%

            As you can see asshat, I pay the 3rd highest taxes in the US. My property taxes this year are $7,300, school taxes at $5100 are the major part of that.

            Since I have been working since sophmore year in high school Mr. Dickhead, I’ve been paying state and federal taxes since 1962. You? You live on welfare don’t you? That’s why you take this lazy ass job as a troll.

            By the way, my 2015 1099 taxes were $908 out of $3,000. Now do I need to punk your balls into raw meat or not?

          5. AgLander November 15, 2016

            Suckers are born every day as you have just demonstrated. I live in a house probably worth 3X yours and pay real estate taxes that are only 38% of your total. You really need to check out fly over country…..that vast and beautiful area that retired the Clinton Crime Machine forever! Why do you continue to live in a hell hole state that sucks it’s inhabitants dry? Do you enjoy being a victim? You must be suffering from the Stockholm Syndrome and are helpless to save yourself! “Stupid is as stupid does”!

          6. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            Geeze. What rock did you crawl from under?

          7. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

            Aggie is a human reject from his own mother.

          8. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            An unbelievable agitator sent by Putin or ISIS to se the destruction of a great nation.

          9. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

            You will notice that it was only CrowdStrike who outed the Russians who hacked into DNC emails. Now, Comey suddenly has lost all interest in investigating that. He knows why.

            CrowdStrike, a major IT group, stated that the Russians were not after finding out what the DNC was up to. They wanted the names of Hillary’s supporters so they could alter and delete votes.

            That BS that so many didn’t vote might just be the clue that the Russians did in fact delete a lot of her voters ballots.

          10. Jon November 14, 2016

            You have to wonder what happened to the 60,000 missing ballots in Wisconsin and the 80,000 in North Carolina. You have to wonder why Wisconsin’s new voter suppression law kept 300,000 people, mostly in Milwaukee and Madison, from voting this year. What’s worse is why aren’t these things being investigated and why is the media silent about these things. Republican governors in both states have done their part for their party.

          11. AgLander November 14, 2016

            The same rock that fell on Hillary Clinton on Tuesday November 8th!

        2. pisces63 November 14, 2016

          Excuse you. I have followed this idiot for years. This is not a characterization. I did not make up the women. I did not make up the court case on child statutory rape. The Trump U case. The destruction of the Boardwalk. That is public record. We will see another democrat win. In four years with a sweep. Let them keep goose stepping. Let too many blacks and other minorities continue to be terrorized by his klan buddies. I did not make up any of his past, yet for a party who promotes morals and values, this one is mind boggling. I’ll accept nothing. I will tolerate. Unlike you bigots who just lied your asses off about the black man, I don’t lie. I do not exaggerate but my parents raised us in church and taught us values to live by. He insults that which was taught to me. IF a democrat, I would have felt the same. I did not vote for FitzGerald in Cleveland for Ohio, governor for that very reason and he is mild compared to this miscreant.

          1. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

            Pisces…I live in NJ. Trump’s limos were seen so many times heading to the Playboy Mansion here in McAfee. In fact, that IS how Melania got that Playboy Centerfold photo op.

            I personally saw the Trump helicopter flying those Middle Eastern high rollers down to AC to launder money in his casinos. That’s why he got that FinCEN $22 million fine. He was warned 3 times.

            Trump is just what the Republicans deserve. They are sleaze, have NO class and are lying, cheating slime.

        3. Elliot J. Stamler November 14, 2016

          Unless Trump truly exercises his authoritarian and fascist tendencies (with Bannon an outright fascist urging him on), we will continue to have a constitutional democracy and the Democratic Party will again prevail at some future time. I am now 77 years old and I have witnessed these predictions of doom when one party wins an election…and Trump did NOT win a landslide–he LOST the popular vote. And a few years later after the grim predictions the other party prevailed. You, AgLander, have in this and other comments made manifestly clear your utter ignorance of American history.
          I was there in 1964 when it was predicted the GOP would thereafter collapse; four years later it won. I was there in1972 when it was predicted the Democrats would collapse; four years later they won. I was there in 1986 when it was again predicted the Democrats would collapse; four years later they won.
          Unless, therefore, Trump and his bunch tries to destroy our very constitutional system, you will in future see other Democrats and Republicans elected…read a good history text by a good professor of history and stop being a fanatic.

          1. AgLander November 14, 2016

            I will gladly put up my knowledge of history against yours any day……we can go back to Alexander the Great and his Macedonian army and proceed forward to this day.

      3. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

        There is no way to FORCE Americans who know right from wrong to accept Trump. Now or EVER.

      4. dpaano November 15, 2016

        You go girl!!! I respect all that you did and all that you and your family accomplished. This is what America needs…..more women like you! Thank you!

    5. idahogie November 14, 2016

      We are condescending. To idiots who elected a racist sex predator. If you voted for Trump, then you deserve all the condescension you receive.

  2. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

    I HATE the guy, but this is NOT a good idea. Tearing the country apart even further will only lead to a disaster.

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    1. Mama Bear November 14, 2016

      can you describe this disaster? Maybe you could explain it to the blacks, women, Jews, Muslims. Tell us about this disaster?

      1. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

        You just said it yourself. Retaliatory persecution of blacks, women, Jews and Muslims. Worse yet – Civil war. Not something I want for my children or my children’s children. Even Mrs. Clinton and the current president are calling for calm. Shooting people and looting are NOT sane acts.

        1. Mama Bear November 14, 2016

          no, Gerry, not “retaliatory”. If we do not stay vigilant and try to protect all Americans from the white supremacist, anti-Jew, anti-Muslim, anti-anything except white males and their little women this will indeed turn into a place no sane moral decent person would want their children to live in.

          1. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

            MB…Women are furious that a man like Trump who is so obviously a control freak maniac was ever allowed to even run. For heaven’s sake, this is the 1st president elect who has to appear in court for racketeering.

            What does that tell you about why the GOP has to go?

          2. Mama Bear November 14, 2016

            you are preaching to the saved, EW. I have never been so furious and so frightened. I will not shut up and go peacefully. I will not stand by and watch one vulnerable human being hurt. I will stand up and do whatever I can. If I did then I would be no better than them.

          3. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

            I have to tell you. Here in NJ, we saw and heard what he said to the thousands he unemployed, “That’s what you get for trusting me.”

            There just isn’t a way for me to unlearn everything I was taught about right and wrong. I have never been the kind of woman like Melania who for a few million could suck up to a man I know is doing every selfish, rotten, evil thing he can. Or as Trump told Richard Branson of the Virgin Group, “I plan to make as many people miserable as I can.” Now why would a billionaire like Branson say that if it isn’t true?

          4. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            I’ve been listening to NPR and the election ‘postmortem’. If you want a good laugh – listen to the way educated white women justify voting for Trump. I couldn’t believe my ears. Just sad.

          5. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

            If you don’t like it? Too damn bad. You want women who are good little obedient puppies? There’s plenty of them in the Republican south and midwest …all delicate flowers of womanhood. Sorry up north women fight as dirty as you men do and we don’t mince words.

            Your post is proof of the kind of women you want. Doormats you can toss a few bucks to, keep pregnant until menopause and as uneducated as your Florida Panhandle Walmartian wives are.

          6. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            I think that because of your anger you missed my point. My point is the stupidity behind their rationalizations. Those ‘free thinkers’ you support actually said that they like a Patriarch. Obviously, it didn’t matter to them that he was an egotistical, ass grabbing bigoted liar.

        2. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

          You cannot unring a bell. Sorry…we know what Trump said in 3 debates. Don’t ask Americans who were raised from birth to know right from wrong to accept this scumbag.

          This will be the first time we have a porn star for First Lady. Great role model for your daughters right?

          1. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            I agree with you but rioting is not the answer.

          2. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

            25,000 peaceful protestors showed up in front of Trump Tower in Manhattan this weekend. And the NYPD didn’t have to arrest a single one. Is that a riot?

          3. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            There was also a shooting and the front of Trump Tower wasn’t the only place there were demonstrations. I know you know that.

          4. dpaano November 15, 2016

            But peaceful protest IS the answer.

        3. twslisa November 14, 2016

          NOBODY here is suggesting it is. What is being suggested is preparation. We need to organize, be ready to resist in case things go as badly as some of the things Trump has said suggest they could. Because trust me when I say that on the alt right, there is a small but organized movement that has been energized and normalized by Trump, whether that’s what he intended or not. America has its own small army of Brown Shirts in the wings, just waiting for a call to action. We need to take the anger, fear and frustration that is leading some to riot, and redirect it towards organized resistance, preparation for a day that we all pray won’t ever come. We need to give those angry people a place to go and something constructive to do, or as you say, they will help build energy for the wrong solutions to the nation’s problems. Already Trump is blaming the media for the violence, building public support for an effort to silence the press. It’s time to learn from history and do things that keep it from repeating itself.

          1. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

            twslisa…Not to worry…there already are several women in high places saying that they think there should be a political party for women only. That will be the only way to protect our right to a voice in a now MALE dominated government.

            When Trump resurrected Guiliani, Gingrich and handed out rewards for making him president to ONLY men, it showed they are into Sharia law.

            How dare they ask women to pay equal taxes while they decide what we can and cannot earn? How dare they try to FORCE women to always be second when there are so many highly educated women in the US who can resolve the issues we all know must be resolved in a fair and equitable manner?

            So, there will be another party in 4 years…Women only.

          2. twslisa November 14, 2016

            We may not have four years, Eleanore. Nor do I believe a gendered party is a good idea, though it’s definitely time we women stopped being nice and made our voices heard. Thing is we are not all lockstep united by our indoor plumbing. I personally think that cynical power mongers long ago realized that hot button issues like abortion could swing Christians who otherwise might support “leftie” ideas like a safety net for folks who lose their jobs or a minimum wage people can live on (both of which are Biblical principles, by the way) hard to the right. And it’s worked. So far.

          3. iamproteus November 14, 2016

            Please do not lose sight of the fact that not all men are in Trump’s corner….and not all women are in yours. Just an honest plea from an old white guy.

    2. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

      It was the right wingers who wanted the country divided. They did their level best at every tiny opportunity to make sure there was no unity between decent, honorable Americans who were raised to know right from wrong and they, raised to lie, cheat and steal at every chance. They are going to get what they asked for.

  3. itsfun November 14, 2016

    Talk from the elite telling us how to live our lives and who to vote for. This just shows the writer has no clue about life here and how hard it is for families. Maybe I’ll just take a holiday in a foreign nation and sit in a bar with Socialists and Communists and have a few beers and do what I can to make America look like a joke and compare our leaders to Hitler and such. We need more royalty like this so called writer.

    “This spring, an Irish friend invited me to a bar in Helsinki, Finland to
    have a beer with his friends, an American expatriate who’d married a
    Finnish woman — a leading cause of immigration to the Scandinavian
    nation. Like almost everyone we knew, we laughed about Donald Trump.
    Then like people from liberal nations all over the world, they sought
    assurance from any actual American resident they could find we wouldn’t
    elect this maniac to replace Barack Obama.”

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    1. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

      You talk, talk, talk, talk on OUR tax dollars. Now you get to work, work, work, work for nothing on Trump’s time. How does it feel mongrel?

      1. itsfun November 14, 2016

        I talk on my tax dollars, not yours. Have you ever paid a tax??

        1. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

          Hey scumbag. I live in NJ. My school taxes here are $5100 this year alone. I paid into SS, Medicare and Medicaid out of every paycheck for the past 44 years. NJ is one of the states that has state Medicaid. We take care of our people.

          I pay more taxes in my lifetime than you jerkoff hicks ever do. Most people in NJ have property taxes that exceed $10,000 a year. We have a sales tax of 6% on the goods that are taxable.

          Don’t you EVER DARE tell me I don’t pay my taxes. Come on up to NJ. I will personally take you to our Tax Office to make a liar of you. Are all hicks like you assholes or is it just you?

          1. itsfun November 14, 2016

            I asked if you ever paid a tax, never said you didn’t. With all the taxes in NJ, no one should be in need except the wage earners.

          2. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

            Your post reply proves you are insane. I have paid state and federal taxes for over 44 years. DUH. Try and hold down any job in NJ and get away with NOT paying taxes like you thieves in the RED states always do.

            NJ people are NOT in need. We are just not going to allow any more of our tax dollars to go to your mongrel states.

            Your states get back from $1.35 up to Alaska’s $1.87. The Dem states get back an average of 55 cents. So you are the freeloaders at the federal trough.

            Not for much longer. Sorry but NJ will secede with NY, CT and the rest of the northeastern states your hick states have bled dry.

            Get an education before you try posting your BS.

          3. itsfun November 14, 2016

            Just what state do you say I live in? You have absolutely no say in where even 1 dollar of tax money goes, not even 1 dollar. Good luck with your secede BS. President Trump get use to it.

          4. dpaano November 15, 2016

            Add California to the succession list…..they’ve been talking about it!

      2. itsfun November 14, 2016

        What is the female counterpart of a mongrel??

        1. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

          What’s the male counterpart of turd?

          1. itsfun November 14, 2016

            Eleanore is the counterpart go take a Eleanore.

          2. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

            Eleanore is financially independent, something and your whore flowers of womanhood never are.

          3. itsfun November 14, 2016

            Must have got your money from alimony. I have seen your poor writings.

  4. twslisa November 14, 2016

    I watched Cabaret during the primaries with my niece, and I remember that chilling moment. Trump had already flirted with the idea of special ID’s for Muslims, as well as a national database, and defended the Japanese internment camps in a context that involved Muslims. When we saw that moment in the film, that hauntingly beautiful, optimistic song, juxtaposed with images of swastikas, both of us shuddered. My niece pinned a YouTube clip of that song to her Twitter page for awhile, and I warned friends who were thinking of voting Trump how easily the same sentiments Trump had been expressing once led to the Holocaust. We took a lot of heat for it, and our arguments fell on deaf ears. The problem is, people have been casually flinging around Hitler analogies for decades. Republican’s call Hillary Hitlary, etc. Nobody takes it seriously. Over a year ago, Eva Schloss, Anne Frank’s stepsister, and a number of Holocaust survivors warned that Trump and his followers were sounding too much like Germany in the years leading up to Hitler’s rise to power. While the rest of us fling the analogies around without thinking about the meaning, I guarantee, survivors don’t. We should have listened.

    To the argument that this language only further divides the country, I respectfully disagree. It is more than ever important that the warning be sounded. MAYBE Trump won’t be as awful as he’s sounded during his campaign, (he’s certainly trying to reassure people he won’t be) but right now we need to take his promises seriously, and be ready to resist every way we can. The German public was silent as their country plummeted towards Krystalnacht. They didn’t want to believe things could go so wrong so fast. Their history shows that they absolutely can.

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    1. Mama Bear November 14, 2016

      thank you.

    2. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

      Trump is not the man the GOP thinks he is. It only shows just how ignorant and uneducated southern and midwestern Republicans are. I’ve seen Trump in our media since his military school days.

      Now we have a former porn star for a 1st Lady who barely speaks any English. Now we have Trump play acting at president.

      The joke is? He and those hicks are in honeymoon mode right now. Just let Trump do what he always does and start giving orders and the GOP cocks and balls will go into rage mode.

      1. twslisa November 14, 2016

        I hope you’re right. I also hope that the Dems who survived this landslide are ready to reach across the aisle and work with Republicans who actually love the Constitution to resist Trump if he tries to break the First Amendment. They are going to need reinforcements if Trump succeeds in building public support for silencing the so called MSM. Much as I disagree with people like Ted Cruz on nearly every other issue, I know he believes in the Constitution and that’s a place to start building resistance that may be needed.

        1. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

          Actually, there is the strongest possibility that we can get women from both parties who hate Trump, Ryan, McConnell and the rest of the rabid dogs of the right in the Republican party to become the first bipartisan party of women only.

          1. twslisa November 14, 2016

            I disagree. IF Trump is leading the country down the path the author of this piece suggests, we do NOT need more division. Much as we disagree with Ryan, McConnell, etc., we may need to rely on their love of the Constitution to help resist a much greater threat. If we keep our focus on areas of division like abortion, while Trump silences the media, we could lose our right to argue those issues altogether.

          2. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

            Here is the Preamble to our Constitution: WE the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare and secure the Blessings of Libery, do ordan and establish this Constitutiuon for the United States of America.

            Please explain what part of deported Muslims secures the blessings of liberty, promotes the general welfare or will establish a “more perfect union?”

            Sometimes, in your life, you must learn to choose between a bad compromise that could affect not you but the future of our kids and the right to “provide for the common defence.”

            How in the world is it possible to insure domestic Tranquilty with a man who knowingly bashes women, minorities and our vets?

            This is a government. Now a corporate business. Sorry..I cannot agree with tossing all that Civil Rights laws and Women’s Rights Constitutional laws provide in sacrifice to “unity.”

          3. Dominick Vila November 14, 2016

            Not to mention an arrogant, vulgar, narcissist. I agree with everything you said, but I believe what Tslisa said is something that must be considered. We either reflect on the results of this election and take steps to correct everything that went wrong, or we are going to become a minority party for many years to come. In addition to that, we must work with moderate Republicans to accomplish objectives where there is common ground, such as investment in infrastructure. Intransigence, obstructionism,and the promotion of hatred may work when you have an audience that shares our views. It does not work when the opposition enjoys the support of most of the country, and our values and vision were soundly rejected. Yes, Hillary won the popular vote, largely because we still control the most populous and wealthy states in the Union, but she lost the Electoral College vote, Dems failed to gain control of the Senate and the House, and the SCOTUS is going to move to the far right in the not too distant future. Continuing to demand the implementation or advancement of policies that have been rejected by most States, at a time when we are not only out of power, but when the results of the election indicate, once again, that are views and goals are being rejected, is political suicide.

          4. dpaano November 15, 2016

            She hasn’t lost the Electoral vote yet……they don’t vote until January AND they COULD vote against Trump and go with the popular vote. It would be the right thing to do, but probably not going to happen!!

          5. jmprint November 14, 2016

            When it comes to women’s rights we don’t need to agree with any men against women’s rights.

    3. Dominick Vila November 14, 2016

      Thank you for expressing such an objective assessment of the realities we face so clearly.

    4. jmprint November 14, 2016

      I think most of listened and understood, those that voted for Trump refused the thoughts, and gambled our great nation.

    5. Jon November 14, 2016

      Many in Germany and throughout the world thought that Hitler’s anti-Semitic rantings were merely campaign rhetoric and he would never carry out his promises once in power. There are many people, especially Trump supporters, who say the same thing about Trump. One problem is that Trump and his surrogates lie so often that you never know when they are telling the truth. Until there is action to prove he didn’t mean the hateful white nationalist things he said, I am taking him at his word.

  5. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

    I don’t know who raised some of these midwestern and southern Republicans but it is now more than obvious their parents taught them that slipping past laws and common decency is fine so long as it gets them money in THEIR pockets.

    Trump thinks calling women fat pigs, while Guiliani publicy stated for all women to hear, “Women have no place in government,” is a bell they can unring.

    We know what we heard and saw. To prove what these Republican hicks do is simple:
    1. They rig the Electoral College by changing the voting district maps so the GOP gets more electoral votes.
    2. They smeared the hell out of Hillary while refusing to FORCE Trump to disclose HIS taxes.
    3. They got Gowdy to spend millions on phony investigations ONLY to smear Hillary and scare off any other women who dare to try to become president of the US.
    4. They lie, cheat and steal from us every time they have another pollution spill or what they call natural disasters by raiding FEMA money to keep their pathetic states afloat.

    Funny isn’t it? Gowdy was chief bitchy boy of Benghazi and the email investigations and his reward is to become the GOP AG? Funny isn’t it? Guiliani went to bat for Trump and now he becomes the head of the DOJ? Funny isn’t it? Trump handed $100 million to Priebus of the RNC to be allowed to run for president and NOW Priebus reward is to be Trump’s chief advisor.

    I plan to be among the millions of women who intend to see to it that Trump has the worst swearing in come January. It will be one the hicks will not be able to forget.

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  6. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

    You know what the real fun is? That Trump has said he won’t live in the White House. Well sure…Too much Secret Service and other people knowing what he is doing.

    And, not only that, the GOP sex addicts figure, they can’t afford the luxury of getting sexual favors from Melania in the White House after crucifying Bill Clinton and Hillary.

    So of course, he plans to stay in Trump Tower where the security is going to cost 10 times what it would if he lived in the White House. Trump Tower is in the direct center of Manhattan. Already the FAA has said that it had to close off all air routes within miles of Trump Tower for HIS security.

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    1. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

      What’s even more fun are his plans for banning the press from the White House. The Second Amendment people don’t understand that loosing the First will make it so much easier to take their guns. But it still doesn’t make rioting the right way to go.

      1. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

        I think it’s poetic justice. The very people who helped smear Hillary, are now going to be silence by the world’s greatest silencer: TRUMP.

        When Trump doesn’t get his way, he sues.

        1. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

          Or he cries like a baby saying ‘It’s not fair’. I hate the guy but we just can’t be gunning people down in the street or burning businesses.

          1. Mama Bear November 14, 2016

            no one is advocating that, Gerry. We are talking about resistance, not aggression.

          2. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

            I never advocate violence. That’s what the Republican Nazis do. Already the KKK is holding parades in our streets as if they have somehow “won.” This wasn’t a contest for power. It was an election of the people, for the people, by the people. The minute Trump started to blast away with his racial slurs and gender bias, he opened the door to openl bigotry to take over.

          3. jmprint November 14, 2016

            And those that voted for him, are responsible, kind of like the bartender that sells more liquor to a drunken person, and that person hurts others.

  7. Elliot J. Stamler November 14, 2016

    I vigorously dissent from your endorsement of joining or working for the ACLU. While I think some of its work is quite salutary it has long since ceased to be a legitimate and non-partisan defender of civil liberties…it is now a very left-wing..indeed markedly left-wing pressure group meddling into numerous issues that have nothing whatever to do with constitutional rights. No less than Prof. Alan Dershowitz has resigned from it because of this.
    I also should point out it has become a huge multimillion dollar marketing machine under its leftwing director, Anthony Romero, taking in huge sums of money while Romero is paid a very large 6-figure salary…way above what one might think appropriate for a non-profit organization.
    I wish so much responsible civil libertarians would form a new legitimate civil liberties organization that would take up the mantle the current radical leftist ACLU has long ago thrown into the gutter.

    Reply
    1. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

      Please…the last and only time I ever attended a public open Libertarian meeting, I was only one of 3 women in the room and all I heard Libertarian cultists bitching about was having to pay ANY taxes. Steve Lonegan remind you of what Libertarian men are all about? Bullies like Lonegan who want to control the world?

      1. Elliot J. Stamler November 14, 2016

        Eleanor, what do the libertarians have to do with what I wrote? Their idea of liberty is virtual anarchy and Lonegan’s political views are ultra right wing hooey which is why he’s been defeated in every race he has run. He is a Ted Cruz Republican.

        1. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

          Trump isn’t a partisan. He isn’t a politican. He is a business man and business is ALL Trump cares about. You know why.

          He wants to stay in Manhattan so he can get away with huge conflict of interest by keeping his business in his hands.

          He already knows he can’t hand it over to his kids. But, what a lot of people don’t know is why he “won’t” hand it over to his kids: He doesn’t trust them to take over his business. roflmao

          1. Elliot J. Stamler November 14, 2016

            Well, I don’t know the definition of :roflmao. He will put his business supposedly in a blind trust to conform to law but it’s meaningless as he will exercise complete control. Ethics of blind trusts mean nothing to him as indeed all ethics mean nothing to him. I don’t think it’s so much that he doesn’t trust his adult children as it is that being an utter egomaniac he doesn’t think they or anyone on the planet can run his business the way he can. As I’ve written before we now have a president-elect who is seriously and clinically mentally ill with an acute narcissistic personality disorder. Oh well, look, I’m now a senior citizen and let me tell you, Eleanor, age brings about a certain amount of serenity…what will be will be and I don’t right now know, nor does anyone else know, what that in fact will be. Except that it ain’t gonna be good. We’ll have a loose cannon in the White House. But I think that some time in the future the people of this country if we still have a country will realize that this year they’ve made the greatest political mistake of our national history…perhaps eclipsing the one made in 1856 when Buchanan was elected over Fremont thus assuring the civil war.

          2. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

            Elliot, I have always respected your opinion. I am also a senior Citizen, a former single Mom and business owner at a very young age of 22. After my divorce, I was forced to give up my business or share the profits with my ex, who had nothing to do with the business operation ever. I chose to bail. I was extremely fortunate to be hired by a female entrepreneur who was a SBA ombudswoman back in the late 1970s, owned her own business and had a lot of friends in “high places” in government. I was quite taken aback at the number of Congresspersons and Senators in and out of her office, mostly in an effort to preserve the significance of small businesses. She became the president of NJ Assoc. of Women Business Owners, president of NJ Business and Industry and was honored by then Governor Kean to head the new SWIMB group in Trenton.

            If I learned anything from Elizabeth T. Lyons, it was that women must always have a voice in the government they pay taxes to. She mentored the women who worked in her management consulting and tech recruiting firm to always stand their ground when they fought for equality or what we knew was right.

            Like ETL, I am an altruist to the max. I raised 2 sons alone and without help, rejected alimony in order to permanently cut the marital ties and given the age of my sons at the time of my divorce, received $75 a month in child support for a grand total of 5 years before the eldest was emancipated. And on a salary far less than the men I worked with earned, paid off the mortgage on my home.

            By that time, I worked for Frank Lautenberg at ADP as a Reports Administrator to the VP of Operations. In my lifetime, I’ve had only 4 jobs in the private sector, each time going to the next level until my last job in environmental engineering was as a tech writer who got accounting manager dumped on me by the owner’s son who discovered I had done accounting in the past.

            In all of those years of working, I can truthfully say that all of the employers were fair and for the most part honest. It was ironically the owner’s son who was much like Trump, always had to have his way even when it meant losing tons of money, always bullying the men he hired. He never tried that with me. He knew I would leave him and his accounting in a lurch, if not report what I knew he was doing to hide profits from the IRS. This guy got a $75,000 fine for refusing to abide by NJDEP certification laws for his lab. So, in order to pay that, he had to close the laboratory and keep only the PhD from MIT and the Brit from Cambridge on. The company didn’t last more than a year after that.

            The problem I have is knowing TOO Much about Trump that so many others do not. They’ve fooled themselves into falling for his smoke and mirrors games. I cannot in good conscience reject everything I was taught by my parents and teachers about right and wrong just so a man can boost his egotistical maniacal ego. I have a conscience.

            I agree. Sometimes, the wrong decisions have consquences. But in the end? Right always wins out and wrong ends up in destroying the most hateful, destructive people.

    2. twslisa November 14, 2016

      I may agree with you about the direction the ACLU has taken, BUT if Trump is in fact going to carry through with many of the threats/promises he made during his campaign, this is not the time to let differences over such things keep us from uniting against a bigger problem.

      If Trump intends to be the authoritarian leader he has promised to be, his first step will be to muzzle the press. He has already signaled that it’s a priority. He’s blaming the media for the protests and riots, and has already whipped up his following against journalists. He will use the power of his office to see journalists fired, and use threats such as IRS audits and other investigations to make people toe the line. He will try to get laws that make it possible to punish journalists who criticize him. If he succeeds, our other constitutional rights will be on far less solid ground.

      We can quibble with the ACLU about some of its actions another time. If they are ready to stand and fight for the First Amendment, they have the infrastructure and organization to do it. We can’t turn up our noses and try to start from scratch. If Trump is the man he has appeared to be during the campaign, we won’t have time.

      1. Elliot J. Stamler November 14, 2016

        Oh I will support whatever the ACLU does to legitimately protect our rights against what may indeed come about..please don’t misunderstand that. I can’t see that he will SUCCEED in punitive laws against journalists…he opined during the campaign he’d get the libel laws “opened up.” If he weren’t a complete constitutional ignoramus he’d know libel laws are STATE laws and there is no federal jurisdiction so he can’t get that done. If he tries to punish journalists in a repeat of the Alien & Sedition Laws repealed under Pres. Jefferson he’ll be slapped down by the courts. The thing that worries me is he is an authoritarian who might disregard the courts and the constitution altogether and provoke a constitutional crisis the likes of which we’ve not seen and the outcome of which may well provoke violence and plenty of it.

  8. Dominick Vila November 14, 2016

    The first thing we have to do is accept the fact that Donald Trump is going to be our President for the next four years, and that the GOP is in full control of Congress, most governorships, most State legislatures, and soon the SCOTUS. Secondly, we must determine the reason for the electoral debacle we just experienced. Thirdly, we must take appropriate action to strengthen our positions where appropriate, and modify them when they are inconsistent with the wishes of millions of fellow Americans. Fourth, we must develop an agenda – and clear and concise proposals – to address how we think we could strengthen the economy, restore fiscal solvency, and create jobs four years from now. Fifth, we must stop relying on the opinions of pollsters and media talking heads, and listen to what people are saying. Not only in populous and wealthy states, but in most of the USA, where millions of people are convinced that our economy is in trouble, that trade deals are undermining our economic might, and that government policies – and liberal politicians – are the reason for the loss of manufacturing and mining jobs in the USA.
    The character and moral issues we focused on shed light on disturbing behavior, but the perceptions that exist in the USA on the root causes for pocket book concerns trumped everything else, and were the determinant factor for the outcome of the 2016 election. Hillary failed to respond in kind, did not clarify issues in a way that would convince voters, and paid dearly for her complacency or reliance on the wisdom of the electorate.

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    1. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

      Dominick, unless I got to confession and tell the priest I support a liar, a thief and a crook, there is no way I can accept Trump as my president.

      If that is what men in this country accept, fine. I don’t. Now or ever.

      1. Jim Samaras November 14, 2016

        Of course you won’t…..because you’re just a man hater Ellie! Even if he becomes the greatest president in history it’s impossible for you to admit that a man got it done. Dumbest thing I’ve heard from you

        1. pisces63 November 14, 2016

          I’m a woman, too sweet heart. I cannot accept him. I accepted Reagan, Nixon(with a laugh and I was right), etc., they were our president’s loved Bush, jr. but did not vote for him. I cannot do it for this man. No morals. No sense of right and wrong. MY values cannot accept this just like the self righteous right could not accept a black man for president just because he was black and any other made up lie about him. I am not making up anything with him.

          1. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

            Even Cheney, as evil as he is, doesn’t openly use racial slurs or degrade women as Trump does.

            If the men supporting Trump admire him so much, it proves they only want women around for 2nd incomes do they don’t have to bust their butts.

        2. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

          I hate ignorant men who are too lazy to finish high school, got to college even when taxpayers pay through the nose for school taxes.

          I hate men who are high handed morons who think they can FORCE others to their will. I hate men like you who think you have all the answers when your male records in history shows one massive failure after another that ended up in wars you didn’t pay for and we did. You are WRONG and I will not change my opinion on that.

      2. Dominick Vila November 14, 2016

        For me, it is not a matter of liking or supporting Trump. I detest the man because of his obnoxious behavior, his arrogance, narcissism, egotism, and reckless policy proposals. However, I recognize that he won the election consistent with the tenets established in the Constitution, and see no point in engaging in futile protests and similar endeavors. I am more interested in analyzing what happened, determining what influenced the outcome of the election, the reason so many Democrats voted for Trump or did not vote at all, the reason 42% of women voted for Trump and so many African Americans did not vote, than engage in actions or rhetoric that will not contribute to us regaining power in 2018 or 2020.

        1. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

          Amen.

    2. Mama Bear November 14, 2016

      I think you fail to see that the “rural” folks who elected Trump want their steel mill, rubber factory, coal mine, auto plant jobs back at $22.00/hour plus benefits. That is what he promised these ignorant people and that is not ever going to happen no matter how many politicians lie to them. They will never be satisfied until they can drop out of school and make $22.000/hour without thinking. I live in Ohio and they are all around me. They refused to retrain when these plants offered them free training. They refused to think for themselves, they refused to stay in school, they refused to take a job cutting grass or picking fruit. I’m sorry but you and I are not seeing the same electorate.

      1. pisces63 November 14, 2016

        Ain’t happening. My husband’s let in 1982 and not back yet!!

      2. Dominick Vila November 14, 2016

        Actually, I agree with what you said 100%. Trump, and Hillary, thought that creating infrastructure jobs was going to satisfy those that have been displaced by the emergence of automation, coal miners that want to do the same exact job their fathers did at a time when people are much more conscious of our environment and transitioning to cleaner energy. The truth is that none of our “angry” unemployed fellow Americans have any intention in doing anything to improve themselves to qualify for the many high tech jobs that are currently going to foreigners entering the USA with H1b visas. They are definitely not interested in doing the work that illegal immigrants are performing. Most importantly, they have no interest in anything other than what they believe is their God given right: to put a few screws in a car or other product several hundred times a day doing assembly line work, get black lung disease working in a coal mine, or earn $70K a year working in a steel mill. It is not that they are ignorant, or lazy, but that they refuse to recognize that the world has changed, and that the jobs that allowed their fathers and grandfathers to earn enough to support their families and live comfortably are gone and are not coming back, Trump or no Trump. They want the country to go back to the way things were a few decades ago, at a time when our country and the rest of the world is moving forward.
        BTW, many of those “angry” blue collar workers are Democrats, and they helped deliver the 2016 election to Trump, not because what the Donald told them makes sense, but because The Donald addressed issues and concerns that matter to them.

      3. dpaano November 15, 2016

        I agree, and when Trump tries to bring jobs back to the United States, they will find out quickly that they are no longer capable of taking those jobs…..they will be computerized, robotized, and everything else. Hillary wanted to get money from Congress to re-train these people so that they COULD function in the new manufacturing platform, but they didn’t see that. They figured that Trump would give them an “easy” way to get their jobs back, but it ain’t going to happen! They have not taken advantage of retraining and have sat in their barcaloungers hoping for a miracle. Well, the miracle still isn’t here and Trump will NEVER be able to keep his promises to them! They were conned by the biggest con artist in the country…..too bad it’s too late for them to realize their mistake!

        1. Mama Bear November 15, 2016

          Bill Clinton actually tried to get these displaced unskilled workers free junior college – way back then when the writing was on the wall. Same thing, no money from Congress. I am not looking forward to how these folks react when they figure out Trump conned them.

          1. dpaano November 15, 2016

            Hopefully, it won’t be pretty for Trump and his cronies!

    3. BDD1951 November 14, 2016

      The electoral college is obsolete. I am sick of the Midwestern states having control of who our president will be. They are sparsely populated and yet they have control.

      1. Dominick Vila November 14, 2016

        I agree. Not only do they control the presidency, thanks to the antiquated and undemocratic electoral college system, they also control the Senate and the House, and by default the judicial branch of government thanks to a system of apportionment that allows states sparsely populated to elect the same number of Senators as densely populated states, for example.
        Unfortunately, these flaws in the Constitution are not going to change any time soon. With Republicans in full control of our government, and benefiting from the status quo, the tools that helped them rise to power, will stay in place. Probably for many years to come.

        1. dpaano November 15, 2016

          As I keep saying….the GOP has been angling for an “imperial” presidency for years…..now they run the entire country, including the states, the Supreme Court, the Congress, etc. It will take a miracle to overcome them….even in 4 years. Plus, we’re stuck with Trump’s alt-right choices for the Supreme Court for a lifetime!

          1. Dominick Vila November 15, 2016

            They also control most State governments, which will allow unopposed gerrymandering at a scale never seen before.

      2. dpaano November 15, 2016

        The funny part is that the Electoral College hasn’t even voted yet…..they could go against their state’s beliefs and vote for the candidate with the popular vote…..Hillary could still be the president. Of course, that probably won’t happen because it would be a real upset, but you never know! It will be interesting to see.

        1. BDD1951 November 16, 2016

          They could but remember Congress has to approve it. How likely do you think that could happen. Republicans want to keep control of the Supreme court. I just heard that Guliani made more money in speaking engagements that Hilary ever did. Some to terrorists groups.

  9. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

    You know why the southern and midwestern Republican politicians said that their working class feel “disaffected?” They wanted to garner empathy and sympathy. Yet, the GOP had 8 years to create jobs in their states.

    Do you want to work in coal mines? On oil and fracking rigs? Those are the ONLY jobs these people know how to do. But, they are too stupid to realize they also pay back what they earn the minute there is a spill or cleanup or fine. It’s that “Company Store” syndrome all over again.

    Don’t ask me to feel sorry for lazy people who want job security in obsolete industries that no longer fit into the hi tech world we live in today.

    There is no way they will force those of us up north to remove all of the solar panels and go back to the unaffordable fossil fuels ONLY so these lazy people can have jobs.

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    1. pisces63 November 14, 2016

      The worse part Eleanor, Donald Trump said the job market and economy grows better under democrats and does poorly under republicans.

      1. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

        Pisces…Being used to Republican double talk come from being a Republican woman from 1966 until 2004. I could not in good conscience vote for George W. Bush a 2nd time after what he and the Republicans pulled with 9/11 and Iraq.

        We have a whole lot to be afraid of right now. My hope is that the next terror attack doesn’t end up here in the Metro area but in the south or midwest.Let them know how it feels to see people incinerated.

      2. dpaano November 15, 2016

        That’s a fact…..we’ve always seen more job growth, etc., when a Democrat was running the country!

  10. Dan S November 14, 2016

    From my perception as a Christian who definitely didn’t vote for DJT I feel with his election to the Presidency we’ve now opened the door to the anti christ. In scripture the United States cannot be found anywhere. This nation will fall away in civil war & there will be no victors. Of course there are those who don’t share my viewpoint & that’s fine. But believe me when I say we’ve just elected Americas first true dictator who scorns the people he represents & the US Constitution for which he is supposed to defend. Now we’ll truly get the dark America Trump claimed we were already in. Just look at who he’s appointing like Steve Bannon from Breitbart who claims Obama & Hillary are demons. Truly sick sick people

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    1. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

      I was raised a Catholic. I fully believe in the Constutional right to practice any religion of your choice.

      There will be Civil War for the same reason there was a Civil War the first time around: People who want to ram what we know is wrong down our throats. We all knew that the way the south treated black people was absolutely uncivilized and we knew why the rich southern plantation owners needed black slaves: FREE labor. The minute the Emancipation Proclamation passed, the whites in those states hated hated hated having to do work black free labor slaves had done.

      I know this because my ex’s grandmother, Lily Evans Whitaker was half Seminole, half Irish woman who picked cotton on plantations as a sharecropper. She told me that the bitter, resentful whites in the south hated having to do work the black slaves did and as a result couldn’t own land thanks to sharecropper wages. 11 of those plantations back then were owned by the Walton family.

      1. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

        See – there you go again with the bad information. The Civil War was about States Rights.

        1. JPHALL November 14, 2016

          Only to Southerners who have never read the various Southern state declarations of succession.

      2. dpaano November 15, 2016

        Yeah, I want to see those whites take over the jobs of picking our fruits and vegetables, mowing our lawns, cleaning our homes, taking care of our children, and I could go on and on! Getting rid of the so-called “illegals” in this country will NOT put jobs on the table because the jobs that they current do are ones that the American men and women refuse to do! Should be interesting!

        1. Eleanore Whitaker November 15, 2016

          My younger son lived in Sweden as a professional drummer for 15 years. When he returned, he found a job in the Williams Sonoma warehouse to supplement his band pay. Here is what he told me.

          He said that 90% of the employees didn’t speak much English, had been hired by a recruiter who paid their wages which were barely above the NJ minimum of $8 an hour. But here is the worst part. These people, most of whom were illegals, were never checked against E-Verify and Williams Sonoma got away with paying no employees taxes as they are supposed to. Instead, those recruiters would hire these illegals for a period of 90 days and then get Williams Sonoma to fire them so the recruiter could get a fatter recruiting commission.

          But, all of those illegals were required to pay taxes as 1099s. I pay those kind of taxes and I can tell you that they are the highest in the country for employees. Last year, I earned $3,000 as a part time SEO copywriter and copy editor. Out of that $3,000, the IRS took over $900. You can just imagine the windfall the IRS got from all those illegals.

          My son also told me that when they interviewed him at Williams Sonoma, that he was asked if he spoke English. He said, “No, But I do speak Swedish.”

          All of the OSHA Meetings for the workers were in Spanish and my son got yelled out for not understanding the OSHA regulations that were only provided in Spanish.

          Welcome to Trump world.

    2. Jim Samaras November 14, 2016

      We felt the same way about Obama in 2012 after numerous EO’s bypassing the constitution and we survived thank God. The same will be true with DJT minus the EO’s thank you

      1. pisces63 November 14, 2016

        He isn’t the only president who used EO’s. that is the hypocrisy of this country. A black man could not do what all the white ones from Washington could do.

        1. Jim Samaras November 14, 2016

          Very true! One….two….maybe ten but 923?

          Ike – 2 in 8 year

          Kennedy – 4 in 3 year

          LBJ – 4 in 5 years

          Nixon – 1 in 6 years

          Ford – 3 in 2 years

          Carter – 3 in 4 years

          Reagan – 5 in 8 years

          Bush – 3 in 4 years

          Clinton – 15 in 8 years

          George W. Bush – 62 in 8 years

          Obama – 923 in 3 1/2 years! More than 1000+ and counting Executive Orders in 6 years…
          Read some of them below – unbelievable!

          Next step -dictatorship. (Looks like we are there already!).

          If you don’t get the implications, you’re not paying attention. How come all the other presidents in the past 100 years have not found it necessary to INCREASE GOVERNMENT’S POWER OVER THE PEOPLE with more than 1,000 Executive Orders? This is really very scary.

          And most Americans have absolutely no idea what is happening.

          “YES, THERE IS A REASON THAT THIS PRESIDENT IS DETERMINED TO TAKE CONTROL AWAY FROM THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE.

          Even some Democrats in the House have turned on him, plus a very small number of Democrat Senators have questioned him. Rightfully so. –

          WHAT IS OBAMA REALLY TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH????

          Remember what he told Russia ‘s Putin: “I’ll be more flexible after I’m reelected? Now look at these:

          EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 — allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

          EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 — allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

          EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 — allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.

          EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 — allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

          EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 — allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

          EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 — allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare function

          EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 — designates the registration of all persons. Postmaster General to operate a national registration.

          EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 — allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

          EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 — allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

          EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 — allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities

          EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 — assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.

          EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 — specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

          EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 — grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

          EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 — allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energ y sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. Financial institution in any undefined national emergency.

          It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months.

          Feel free to verify the “executive orders” at will. ….and these are just the major ones.

          I’m sure you’ve all heard the tale of the “Frog in the Pot”… Watch Obama’s actions, not his words! By his actions he will show you where America is headed.

          Obama has issued executive orders that seek to “harmonize” U.S. Economic regulations with the rest of the world. These executive orders are yet another incremental step that is pushing us closer to a North American Union and a one world economic system.

          Obama used the stage at the 50th anniversary of Martin Luther King’s I have a dream speech to announce two new executive orders infringing on your second amendment rights..

          The first bans the importation of antique military firearms for sale to sportsman and collectors. He intentionally mislabels them military grade weapons to deceive the people , but make no mistake . . . The order was written specifically to ban the importation of surplus M1 carbines, M1 Garands, 1903 Springfields and other antiques coveted by collectors and sport shooters.

          This order is the death knell for the civilian marksmanship program.

          Congress had previously passed the sportsman protection act in 1986 which among other things guaranteed that the importation of the historic relics for collectors and the CMP would not be impeded by unreasonable regulations.

          Unfortunately, most Americans have absolutely no idea what is happening.

          The American people need to understand that Barack Obama is constantly looking for ways to integrate the United States more deeply with the rest of the world.

          The globalization of the world economy has accelerated under Obama, and this latest executive order represents a fundamental change in U.S. Economic policy. Now federal regulators will be required to “harmonize” their work with the international community.

          If THIS IS DIFFICULT TO BELIEVE, THEN PROVE TO YOURSELF IT’S WRONG – Google it. !!!

          http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/executive-orders

          1. pisces63 November 14, 2016

            George Washington8n/aJohn Adams1n/aThomas Jefferson4n/aJames Madison1n/aJames Monroe1n/aJohn Quincy Adams3n/aAndrew Jackson12n/aMartin van Buren10n/aWilliam Henry Harrison0n/aJohn Tyler17n/aJames K. Polk18n/aZachary Taylor5n/aMillard Fillmore12n/aFranklin Pierce35n/aJames Buchanan16n/aAbraham Lincoln48Andrew Johnson79Ulysses S. Grant217Rutherford B. Hayes92James Garfield6Chester Arthur96Grover Cleveland (first term)113Benjamin Harrison143Grover Cleveland (second term)140William McKinley185Theodore Roosevelt1,081William Howard Taft724Woodrow Wilson1,803Warren G. Harding522Calvin Coolidge1,203Herbert Hoover9685075Franklin D. Roosevelt3,5226071Harry S. Truman9079538Dwight D. Eisenhower48410432John F. Kennedy21410914Lyndon B. Johnson32511128Richard Nixon34611452Gerald R. Ford16911798Jimmy Carter32011967Ronald Reagan38112287George H. W. Bush16612668Bill Clinton[9]30812834George W. Bush[9]29113198Barack Obama (as of 2016-11-10)[9]26113489

            With the exception of William Henry Harrison, all presidents beginning with George Washington in 1789 have issued orders that in general terms can be described as executive orders. Initially they took no set form. Consequently, such orders varied

          2. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            There’s no need to lie about stuff. Misinformation is what is going to start a war right here. Does anyone really want that?
            http://www.factcheck.org/2012/09/obamas-executive-orders/
            John F. Kennedy
            Executive Order 10998—Assigning Emergency Preparedness Functions to the Secretary of Agriculture – 1962
            John F. Kennedy
            Executive Order 10990—Reestablishing the Federal Safety Council
            Executive Order 10995
            ASSIGNING TELECOMMUNICATIONS MANAGEMENT FUNCTIONS – JFK in 1962
            Richard Nixon
            Executive Order 11612—Occupational Safety and Health Programs for Federal Employees
            John F. Kennedy
            Executive Order 11049—Providing for the Carrying Out of the Public Works Acceleration Act
            Executive Order 11051 — PRESCRIBING RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY PLANNING IN THE EXECUTIVE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT – JFK
            Lyndon B. Johnson
            Executive Order 11310—Assigning Emergency Preparedness Functions to the Attorney General
            October 11, 1966
            Executive Order 11921 was an executive order approved by President of the United States Gerald Ford on June 11, 1976

          3. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

            As you can see, Samaras will stretch truth like all wingers do when they are desperate. And you wonder why no one accepts Trump now?

          4. Jon November 14, 2016

            Every one of his posts are filled with half-truths, things taken out of context, distortions, and lies. He has yet to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth about anything.

          5. RED November 14, 2016

            Ron Wood, “You Can’t Fix Stupid.” This means you!

        2. Jon November 14, 2016

          The white nationalists will never stop serving up their lies about President Obama. They make up stories and fake data in their attempt to destroy the reputation of our 1st black president and one of the best presidents this country has ever had. Hypocrisy is a mild term for their racist rantings.

        3. dpaano November 15, 2016

          Actually, if Jim would look at the statistics, he would see the President Obama used fewer EO’s than previous presidents! But, apparently, as usual, he hasn’t done his homework!

      2. jmprint November 14, 2016

        giggle, your crystal ball was made in China. It’s broke, like the US will be after Trump is done with his dump.

    3. Mama Bear November 14, 2016

      fear and hate are evil’s favorite allies. Those that employ them are evil. Period. I once met a missionary who told me how to know when you are in the presence of evil. He said your stomach would be the first to react and you would be totally nauseous. Honestly, Dan, I cannot look at Trump without feeling ill. That’s all I need to know.

      1. Dan S November 14, 2016

        That makes 2 of us. A lot of us assumed he would go away after the election. Unfortunately we well underestimated the fact there really were silent Trump voters. Before the Election marriages & friendships were breaking up, now what happens ? Trump has already said he’s not going to change his style now that he’s won. That’s what I’m afraid he would say & he’ll keep using Twitter. ????

        1. Mama Bear November 14, 2016

          I am certain that makes more than just the two of us. You might notice my safety pin avatar. This is the symbol of safe and it let’s everyone know that I am not a hater, that I judge no one and that my house and my world are safety zones for anyone who needs it. Think about using this symbol as a beacon for those around you.

          1. Dan S November 14, 2016

            Thank you I’ll see if there available to wear & I’ll get some for my wife & family

          2. Mama Bear November 14, 2016

            any safely pin, Dan. Your wife probably has a few in a top drawer somewhere – all women have a top drawer somewhere for these kinds of things:)

          3. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            There’s a joke. “I judge no one”.

          4. jmprint November 14, 2016

            She wasn’t taking about you, you are the joke.

        2. dpaano November 15, 2016

          Yep….we’re in for a rocky 4 years, but I perceive that he will NOT be re-elected. Once his followers find out that he’s not what he said he was and can’t do what he said he was going to do…..they’ll drop by the wayside in droves!

          1. Dan S November 15, 2016

            Already his transition has stalled already in disarray. Just a preview of the chaos to come. Trump didn’t know he had to staff the West Wing with 4000 people his new administration needs to hire. He assumed it would remain staffed with the same people working under the current administration. There’s a large learning curve for him ????

          2. dpaano November 16, 2016

            I just read a couple of articles…the first one was by a well-known economist on Wall Street, and he said that Trump would be a one-term president. Secondly, the papers are all talking about how many of the so-called “promises” he made to his followers aren’t or can’t be done, especially immigration (building the wall and kicking out 11M people), getting jobs back (not going to happen because jobs on assembly lines nowadays are highly technical and these people don’t want to learn how to do them so they could get their jobs back), beefing up the military (Congress isn’t going to allow him to raise the deficit by spending big money on our military), and I could go on and on. They will soon find out, as will Trump, that his BS was mostly hot air and nothing else!

      2. dpaano November 15, 2016

        I agree…the thought of having to look at his face on TV and in the newspaper on a daily basis makes me deathly ill! Not only is he an ugly person, he has an ugly spirit!

    4. pisces63 November 14, 2016

      I will not go that far but I get your drift and I agree. What is worse. Most of his followers are supposedly born again Christians. I knew I never liked and still don’t as a black woman. They have done more dirt to my people than one can believe. I do not trust them now. I trust them even less with their hypocrisy.

      1. Jon November 14, 2016

        You are right to call many of his followers “supposedly” born again Christians. They call themselves Christians and wave the Bible but they are no more Christians than vermin. Nothing about them indicates that they believe in any of Christ’s teachings set forth in the New Testament. They do a grave disservice to good Christians worldwide by pretending to be Christian.

        1. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

          Even if I didn’t laugh at them calling themselves Christians, where in the Bible does it say it is okay to bomb black churches like in MS where those 4 little girls were killed in Sept. 1963? Where does it say in the Bible that tearing families apart so rich men can own them and do as they please with them is Christian?

          My ex’s adorable grandmother who was born and raised in Florida used to say, “I don’t trust a damn man who “gets” religion. He’s got a lotta dirty laundry in his closet.”

          1. Jon November 14, 2016

            Your ex’s grandmother was very insightful and didn’t need an animal book to recognize a skunk.

        2. pisces63 November 14, 2016

          That is what others me the most. They put the country in the hands of one of the most unqualified, reprehensible person known to man and in bed with the klan and other racist groups.

          1. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

            Actually, Trump already said he plans to delegate his job to Pence. Who like GWB will become the right wing Republican back room president.

            I don’t think Ryan or McConnell have any idea of the danger they place themselves in when they try to privatize SS and Medicare. That is OUR money. Not theirs. How dare they make decisions high handedly?

          2. RED November 14, 2016

            Really? It still surprises you that religion is used as justification for some of the most horrific crimes of man? Racism has been a deeply ingrained part of American religion for several centuries. When people are using make believe fairy tales as they guide, they can get the fairy tale to support their beliefs, after all it’s all made up anyway.

        3. jmprint November 14, 2016

          Seems the more christians we have the more evil prevails.

          1. Jon November 14, 2016

            That does seem to be true when you look at the evangelicals whose religion is cash and imposition of there perverted beliefs on the rest of humanity. I am offended that they dare to call themselves Christians. Nothing about them indicates that they believe a single word Jesus spoke.
            You can still find good Christians in America but their numbers are dwindling as too many sit at home watching the televangelists lie to them and talk them out of their money.

          2. dpaano November 15, 2016

            Just the “wrong” kinds of Christians…..the ones that SAY they are Christians but are not.

          3. jmprint November 15, 2016

            My belief is that if true Christians walked the Jesus Walk, we wouldn’t have so much evil. As Jesus didn’t come to preach to the believer, but those that didn’t.

        4. dpaano November 15, 2016

          The evangelical Christians are an embarrassment to those of us who are actually Christians in words and actions!

          1. Jon November 15, 2016

            That is what I always believed. I know that we shouldn’t judge others but I can’t be silent when I see people trying to hijack the word and apply it a religion that worships cash and seeks to use law to require everyone to live in accordance with their twisted beliefs.

      2. Dan S November 14, 2016

        I promise you that if this Presidency goes the way I think it will I won’t be silenced by Trump & his minions. More than half this country didn’t vote for him & some of those who did will eventually see they made a terrible mistake. I will literally be out protesting any attempts to round up & deport those he feels doesn’t belong here. Congress had better grow a backbone & stand up to Trump before we all lose the freedoms so many sacrificed for. We won’t go down quietly & without a fight.

        1. dpaano November 15, 2016

          I’m lucky in that I live in the state of California, and our governor and the mayor of Los Angeles have said they will NOT follow his laws about immigration, etc. What Trump doesn’t realize is that my state can stand alone without the Federal government! They need us more than we need them! We pay more in taxes to support the government that they give us! We’re a state to be reckoned with!

          1. Dan S November 15, 2016

            I’m also here on the left coast outside Seattle. We just re elected Democratic Sen. Patty Murray & Gov. Jay Inslee. It’s wonderful living in a blue state where we’re not surrounded by racist bigots

    5. RED November 14, 2016

      Dan, I think you’re a great person, thoughtful and intelligent. But don’t try to use a the literature of 1st century Jewish peasants as any kind of reflection on the modern world, there is none. There is no prophecy, there is no evil, there are only people who do bad things and we chose how to react and what to do with those people.

      1. Dan S November 14, 2016

        I can appreciate that we all have different viewpoints. To those who don’t have faith that there’s a God in control then I ask 1 question. For those who thinks we’re all alone in the universe & must rely on fellow humans why would those who voted for Trump put the fate of the world in his hands ? He’s about to get told the nations darkest secrets & get the nuclear codes in early January. I know you voted for someone who would fight for the less privileged & would work to find a solution to climate change. Right now we’re at a crossroads by Trumps election & India in 2014 also elected another alt right President.

        1. RED November 14, 2016

          Dan, I can’t quite follow your 1 question. Are you trying to say that there must be a god because millions of morons voted for Trump? We, of course saw how “evangelicals” flocked to Trump, right? Showing how deeply committed they were to tax cuts and racism, the teachings of Jesus not so much. And again I want re-iterate that I have no doubt that you have empathy for others and see religion as a force for good. I’ve known a host of people who were religious and good people. But still religion is deeply damaging and needs to be eradicated from humanity. And I’m not suggesting some kind of purge or anything like that. No we just need to grow up as a species and leave the fearful non-sense of our ancient ancestors behind. There was a time when my philosophy was “if religion makes them feel better than what does it hurt?” I’ve since realized it hurts a great deal, from scumbags televangelists ripping off my own mother to the manipulation of entire cultures to believe that we are fighting over who’s sky fairy is better. But of course that’s not what we are actually fighting over, it’s resources & control, but religion provides an excuse to the masses. It’s also deeply damaging when people believe that the “next life” is more valuable than this one, after all why worry about anyone’s suffering and dying if eternal paradise is what follows. And p.s., on another note I never said we are alone in the universe, we first are altogether and far from alone and I also expect that in a universe or perhaps even a multiverse where we can actually see 14 billion lights years in every possible direction and have already discovered over a thousand planets orbiting other suns, with billions of suns and billions of planets orbiting those suns, we are almost certainly not alone. And for me, I find the real universe infinitely more fascinating than anything 1st century Jewish peasants could ever possibly imagine.

    6. dpaano November 15, 2016

      Dan: I’ve said this time and time again during the campaign! He is as close to the anti-Christ as you can get. And, the people he’s choosing for his Cabinet are right up there too!

  11. Moderate Black Woman November 14, 2016

    I couldn’t watch all of 60 Minutes last night, but I did hear Trump say “women in states that don’t permit abortion will have to go to another state’ …In other words, return to 43 yrs ago when the only women who got safe legal abortions were those who could afford to travel to other countries. The so-called ‘blue states’ should reject class discrimination by enacting residency requirements to get abortions, i.e., require as much proof of residency as one needs to vote. This will force ‘red state’ women to protect themselves and their daughters by standing up to their state legislators.

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    1. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

      We in the Blue States all know they cannot force us to hand over women’s rights. You know why the hicks states are trying to prevent abortion. They need more of our kids to die and be maimed in their endless for profit wars.

      AS you can see, there are only two options left for Blue states…secession or Civil War. They will NOT FORCE us to pay taxes for things we know are WRONG.

      1. Jim Samaras November 14, 2016

        Oh Ellie, the sky is not falling. If you watched 60 Minutes last night and took anything away from it at all it should have been that people who disliked Trump took him literally and not seriously. Supporters took him seriously but not literally. Roe vs Wade is NOT up for debate! Trump is a president for ALL PEOPLE and to not give him a chance is unAmerican.

        1. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

          Samaras…You seem to forget that I live in NJ. We have had Trump in our media since he was a military school reject. Sorry but you will not dominate or force us to approve of a man we know is dirtier than Al Capone and John Gotti combined.

          You approve of a racketeer like Trump. But now, the worst is, when he starts pulling those lawsuits coupled with his threats, you will be the ones we go after.

          1. Jim Samaras November 14, 2016

            There will be no lawsuits! That’s exactly what I mean when I say stop taking him literally with his rhetoric and start taking him seriously with his vision of LEGAL immigration, bringing jobs back to the US, fixing the VA and draining the swamp that is Washington.

          2. jmprint November 14, 2016

            Bannon, Gulliani, Pence and Priebus, the larvae in the swamp will do more damage then you will be able to deal with. You live in murky waters.

          3. Jim Samaras November 14, 2016

            Only time will tell jm….meanwhile your checks will still arrive….temporarily

          4. jmprint November 14, 2016

            Which checks are those Jim, you forget I’m self employed, my own sweat makes the money for my check, where does your comes from?

          5. Jim Samaras November 14, 2016

            Same way jm…just f^ckin witcha

          6. jmprint November 14, 2016

            ckin witch, you are!

          7. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

            JM…Me Too…every year at tax reporting time, I lose about $900 out of $3,000 because I am a 1099 freelance writer.

            If you are expecting Samaras to know anything about taxes, forget it. These middle aged big mouths want it all handed to them so they can text all day long and get paid CEO salaries for 10 minutes worth of their work time.

          8. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

            Our checks add up to $250,000 over a 4 decade period of payroll deductions taken from OUR paychecks. Time for you middle aged slugs to stop trying to steal what we ALL worked for so you can retire at age 50 and live off our earnings.

          9. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

            Ah yes…Reward the liars and cheaters…

          10. jmprint November 14, 2016

            Isn’t it amazing, those that destroy our democracy get all the alccolades.

          11. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            Jim, I’m all for giving the guy a chance. It’s just hard to have faith in a guy that said and acted the way he did during the campaign. And, by the way, where’s the ‘Proof’?

          12. Jim Samaras November 14, 2016

            As Americans all we can do is have faith Gerry. I’ve mentioned before that you either trust him or you don’t. I have and will continue to do so until he proves me wrong. Stop taking his rhetoric literally and start taking him seriously. He will be a president for ALL Americans

          13. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            Jim, at this point I have hope that you’re correct. However, given the fact that Ben Carson is even on the list to be considered for Secretary of Education – a guy who does not believe in evolution – it’s really hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel.

          14. Jim Samaras November 14, 2016

            I hear ya there Gerry! I had not heard that but trust that it’s only hearsay. I did hear that he was thinking of removing that cabinet position entirely.

          15. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            I pray it all works out and the rioting ends.

          16. JPHALL November 15, 2016

            What rioting? Where?

          17. dpaano November 15, 2016

            Most of the so-called “rioting” is merely peaceful demonstrations….it’s all part of the 1st Amendment!

          18. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

            You will be happy to know that now Carson is attempting to vilify and crucify George Soros, who every year donates $200 million to schools across the country. The Koch boys donated a lousy $75,000 to a single Methodist midwest school that teaches religion as part of its science curriculum.

            Are we now supposed to UNLEARN all we have been taught?

          19. jmprint November 14, 2016

            The light went out on Nov. 8th, and it’s not going to get relit, if he chooses the cabinet he is seeking.

          20. dpaano November 16, 2016

            Luckily enough, I heard that Ben dropped out of the running for Secretary of Education…..that’s a GOOD thing! He knows about as much about education as I do about quantum physics! Which is NOTHING!

          21. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

            You are not an American. Everything you now want us to accept in Trump is a violation of the US Constitution. You are a lawless piece of crap who is hot to get away with anything you want. Sorry big baby. Life doesn’t work that way.

          22. RED November 14, 2016

            Really, you trust him? Wow, just frigging wow! What, he’s gotta steal from you personally before you figure it out? Go try to find the “Trump Tax” that was instituted unofficially by contractors in Jersey. They knew Trump would rip them off, so they start padding their bids to make sure they got paid enough. And of course some morons would come in and think “I’m not gonna include the Trump Tax and I will lowball everyone else’s bid. And they got burned every time and only did it once. Do you really think that it’s normal for people doing business to be involved in thousands upon thousands of lawsuits including multiple fraud case. If you do believe that I’m not surprise, because people who trust Trump are definitely mentally deficient and lacking in much knowledge.

          23. jmprint November 14, 2016

            WE DON’T TRUST TRUMP, NOT NOW, NOT LATER. He is what he is how much perfume do you need yo use on that skunk to take the stench away.

          24. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

            You know so little about Trump. In his lifetime, Time Magazine accorded him the honor of having sued thousands over a period of 30 years. Mostly to silence them.

            How little you know. In order to keep Ivana and Marla silenced, he wrote a codasil to their divorce agreement, if they spoke one negative word about him in public, he had the right to pull their $2 million a month alimoney. They used to call that prostitution.

            As for jobs, he has already said he will reactivate Keystone and add more oil and gas jobs. That your idea of jobs? Jobs you will get paid minimal wages and then hand it back when there are spills to pay for or spill fines?

          25. RED November 14, 2016

            How’s that swamp draining looking so far? Looks like they brought in Reince Preibus as chief of staff, phew, that swamp’s gonna be dry land to build on in no time, right? SUCKER!! Hey, can I get in some that bilking the morons? I got my own University, it’s called BluenBama University and it;s nothing but the best, I’ve hand selected each instructor, the best people, bigly. I personally guarantee you will be rich afterwards. So just send the $30,000 right on down. Wow! English most definitely isn’t our official language, stupidity is!

          26. Jim Samaras November 14, 2016

            New territory for Trump in Washington, he puts people in place that are familiar with the waters, nothing to see here. What will be to see is how he reacts to their advice. Time will tell.

            I have a University as well, it’s called Screw U and the tuition is nothing more than a pound of flesh if you have the nuts to attend

          27. jmprint November 14, 2016

            If lady tramp can get a pass on breaking the law, so can the children.

      2. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

        How can you even think about a Civil War or secession? Who would win then? ISIS? Russia? Geeze Eleanore – get a grip.

        1. Mama Bear November 14, 2016

          Listen to you, Gerry…just listen to you. How dare you think you can be the decision-maker for how a woman (or anyone) acts or reacts or thinks or feels? How dare you. You seem intent on not rocking any boat and that is not how a democracy works.

          1. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

            This is what the 40 and 50 something generation of men have become. Bossy, enablers of all the worst criminal behavior.

            They actually think they will FORCE us to accept what we KNOW is wrong. How can they possibly know who Trump is and not know he is everything that is wrong for our country?

            He is not going to create jobs. I know that because there are about 3400 people who worked in his NJ Casinos and hotels who are now unemployed by him.

            He is already alienated our military which is a threat to our national security here and abroad.

          2. Mama Bear November 14, 2016

            I just could not let him continue telling you what to think without calling him on it. I have fought all my life to be free of someone telling me what to do or think or how wrong I am. Not going to start letting it happen now.

          3. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

            MB…I was born a rebellious child. I know some want to say it’s part of being a Boomer. In my case, I can’t really say that’s the truth. I grew up outnumbered by men 20 to 1 my entire life. If I don’t know male gamers by now, I’d have to be in a coma…rofl.

          4. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            Time for your meds. Now you’ve turned one Democrat against another. Good move.

          5. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

            Time for you to stop with that right wing repetitious mantra, “meds.” I am not impressed with that one. As for turning a Democrat against another Democrat. Any Democrat who insists I support someone I KNOW is a liar, crook and worst of all, a bigot, is not the Democrat I care about. Is that what your parents taught? To always placate bullies?

          6. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            Ya know – you’re so full of rage that you can’t even read straight. I never said that you have to support anyone. All I say is that it is NOT in the best interests of this country to call for a Civil War or secession. But now that you bring it up – we only get ONE president and as I told those who didn’t and don’t like Obama – you can leave and you won’t be missed.

          7. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

            Admit it. You are a COWARD! All you want is for all of us to unlearn everything our parents taught us about right and wrong. When ignorant people like you suggest we blithely hand over the rights to a voice in our government, you prove you are not just a coward but a traitor to your country.

            I never waste time on anger. I do fight like hell to preserve what I was taught is right. You preserve what is wrong. That’s the difference between an honorable me and a dishonorable YOU

          8. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            I take back everything – you’re just an ass.

          9. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            If you knew what you were talking about you would know that he did not own the Taj when it went out of business.

          10. stcroixcarp November 14, 2016

            You are technically right. When the Taj was going down, Trump had it go public. TRump skimmed off the money just before the stock tanked, so no he didn’t own it, he just profited from its demise.

          11. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            Carl Icahn owned it when it sank. Funny how nobody recalls that a little old lady beat Trump in court when he tried to take her land and home through Eminent Domain to make a bigger parking lot.

          12. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            What the heck are you talking about?

          13. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

            You know what MB is talking about. Man up time.

          14. Mama Bear November 14, 2016

            his last post suggest it was all your fault. That is so typical of entitled white men – if you stand up and disagree and hold your position they turn you into the one who caused it all.

          15. Mama Bear November 14, 2016

            that you ask that question is so sad. Good bye Gerry Francis.

          16. TZToronto November 14, 2016

            Have you ever seen Bring It On, the movie/musical play about cheerleaders? There’s a line in one of the songs that says a lot: “We got more balls than the team we cheer for.” If you’ve ever seen the play, you know what they’re talking about. These are very strong, fearless women. Eleanore may not be a “super-human girl,” but she is a very strong woman. Don’t worry about her. She could drive you (and me) into the ground if she chose to.

          17. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            I surrender although the extent of her reactions does concern me. If she were my mother or grandmother I’d try to get her to calm down a little. If she disagrees even a tiny bit, the teeth come out and it’s very ugly.

          18. jmprint November 14, 2016

            How is it that you notice ugly and Trump supporters over look that ugly.

          19. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            Trump supporters are stupid.

          20. jmprint November 14, 2016

            You see JIM Gerry sees very clearly.

          21. Jim Samaras November 14, 2016

            Awww, don’t cave now Gerry

          22. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            Jim, I’m not caving. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – I hate the guy. In the interest of what’s best for the country though, I think we should all take a deep breath – just like Oprah suggests’ and give the guy a chance. Rioting in the streets, calling for Civil War or secession are just NOT rational responses.

          23. Jim Samaras November 14, 2016

            I feel the same way although my hatred was for HC and the Clinton crime family. As Americans we should all be interested in what’s best for our country riots and secession are not the answer

          24. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            Everyone is entitled to their opinion and their likes and dislikes. Those are basic principals of democracy. Trying to shove them down someones throat by calling for a Civil war is just insane. That’s giving the loonies justification to come out of Montana hate group camps and start shooting.

          25. dpaano November 16, 2016

            YEs, Gerry, EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OPINION, so quick bugging Eleanore for having one!

          26. Jim Samaras November 14, 2016

            I believe you’ll notice that to be a trend on this site Gerry. One must respect anothers opinion but not so much here. Although I’ve seen the same thing on right wing sites so I guess it’s normal

        2. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

          How can I? I have a conscience. You obviously wish to bend so far over to men you know are nothing more than power mad freaks of nature. Remember what happened in Germany when Hitler was so “charismatic” and conned people? 6 million people were exterminated. Go ahead with your placating Trump and the Republicans. All you will get for it is ISIS or Putin.

          1. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            You’ve said that your age is 77. I have a lot more years left on this planet and in this country than you and I do not wish to see a Civil War or secession. Your anger is destroying you and while I do agree with you on most points, I strongly urge you to get some sort of help.

          2. Mama Bear November 14, 2016

            What on earth do you think gives you the right to diagnose anyone’s “problem”? You are so far over the line now it is pathetic. Do your actually believe anyone wants a civil war? Do you? Come one, get off your donkey and think, man. A civil war might happen and trust me, it won’t be Eleanor’s fault. You sound a lot like the people of Germany sounded as they went along peacefully to the resettlement camp. If you are this ignorant, there are things you can do to treat that.

          3. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            Get real. The woman is just so obviously wound up that she is going to suffer some sort of medical issue because of it.

          4. Mama Bear November 14, 2016

            and that, sir, is none of your concern. Telling someone that you do not know that she needs help shows just how arrogant and controlling you are. She is not a child and it is not your place to tell her to stop being angry. You may be able to do that to your wife but not to anyone else.

          5. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

            No I am age 70. Nov. 13, 1946. Do the math. We cannot allow Trump to be president. He is up for racketeering charges. The rest of the world sees us as having lost our democracy. Why don’t you?

          6. Mama Bear November 14, 2016

            Happy Birthday:)

          7. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            Because it was the democratic process that elected him. Do I think he’s going to be bad? Yes. Do I hope I’m wrong? Yes.

          8. TZToronto November 14, 2016

            Well, actually, the democratic process elected Hillary Clinton. The Electoral College will be electing Donald Trump.

          9. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            Point taken. National elections and the Electoral College are a part of the democratic process though.

          10. jmprint November 14, 2016

            Happy belated birthday, and may you enough many, many more.

      3. dbtheonly November 14, 2016

        Lord willing, there are other options.

    2. Mama Bear November 14, 2016

      I was part of a group of women who helped other obtain abortions when they were illegal. I watched these women agonize, I drove them to a place where we only hoped it was sterile and held many trembling hands while they had the procedure.
      There always have been and always will be abortions. I had so hoped that we could continue to do it safely and legally. But I still drive and I still care and if I have to I will do it again.

      1. Jim Samaras November 14, 2016

        If you truly want to help try driving them to their local CVS or Walgreen’s for some sort of birth control. A little preventive medicine is worth a lot more than a lot of cure

        1. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

          If you learn to stuff a sock in that big mouth and keep that limp noodle in your pants, there wouldn’t be any need for contraception or abortions.

          The next time your wife or daughter gets raped, make sure you don’t dare get any abortion jackass.

          1. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            You really need to calm down. All your valid observations are being undermined by your vulgar responses. I agree with you on most points but calling names reduces you to the gutter level. There just isn’t enough room for you down there with so many of Trumps supporters already occupying it.

          2. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

            Your posts prove you are too much the enabler. I really do not care what you think about my posts. I do not run from bullies. You so obviously do. Peace at any price is what you propose.

            How does placating Trump in any way NOT enable him and the Republicans to destroy everything the Founding Fathers created with our Declaration of Independence and U.S. Constitution?

            If you cave to Trump now, you may get Putin or ISIS later. I am not a coward. This is MY country. I will fight to my death if necessary rather than cave into to what I know is WRONG on every level. That is how Germany became a Nazi country.

          3. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            You’ve got to get some type of medication for your anger. You’re going to have a stroke or heart attack. Nobody is going to take you or your positions seriously if you continue with the rants.

          4. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

            I don’t need medication. You do. You are obviously catatonic. I have always been high pressure thanks to living my entire life in a man’s world. So you bet I fight like a man even though they think I am a tiny little kewpie doll. I fight back when fight is necessary. You don’t. That makes you an enabler of all manner of unconscionable behavior. Can you forget what Trump said about that judge? Or the names he called a Miss Universe contestant? Can you forget his lies on and on and on during 3 debates? Or do you just want to pretend it was all a big joke?

          5. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            You’re correct. The man has shown himself to be a dirtbag. You however, are pushing for the destruction of our country by widening the divide.

          6. stcroixcarp November 14, 2016

            She doesn’t need to push for the destruction of our country, Trump and the republicans will do it for us and make us pay for it too.

          7. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            Ya got me there.

          8. Jim Samaras November 14, 2016

            I see….without so much as a chance to find out what may or may not turn out to be the truth

          9. jmprint November 14, 2016

            “the destruction of our country by widening the divide” Do you not know anything about Bannon?

          10. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            The divide I’m referring to is the Civil War or secession that Ms. Whitaker endorsed.

          11. jmprint November 14, 2016

            Don’t be so concerned about Eleanore, but be very concerned about what your vote did to our society.

          12. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            If you had even a remote clue as to what transpired, you would know that I DID NOT vote for Trump. Stick your nose in somebody else’s business.

          13. jmprint November 14, 2016

            Sorry my bad on the accusation about your vote, you sound no different then a Trump supporter, telling Eleanor how she must respond or act, you must not know the that great white JIM is part of the alt-right supremacist. and loves to stir $hit, if you can make Eleanor’s response your business why don’t I have that right.

          14. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            You missed the point entirely. It seems that anger is going to hurt her physically. It’s already clouded her perception of my comments. I honestly think she needs some help dealing with the results of the election. There’s no shame in that. For many people the election of Mr. Trump has caused genuine grief and if it were the murder of a loved one that precipitated that much rage she would be advised to seek counseling.

          15. jmprint November 14, 2016

            Conversing is the best therapy, and she is entitled to use the verbiage she warrants while she still has that right. I admire Eleanore for standing up to the scumbags, on other supremacist sites.

          16. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            I guess you’re right. The computer is still a far cry from face to face conversation.

          17. Jim Samaras November 14, 2016

            If you read my posts you’ll see there isn’t a supremacist one among them, strictly opinion. You’re correct inasmuch as her anger has clouded her perception of ANYONE who posts anything other than support of HC.

          18. jmprint November 14, 2016

            Gerry, some of you come here to agitate and rub the nose in your $hit, it’s not appreciated, so if you don’t like the wrath, go elsewhere and let those that know what they are talking about due to knowledge, experience and education continue their conversation.

          19. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            I’m not here to agitate at all. If you’d have taken the time to read the posts you would see that Ms. Whitaker has a lot of ange. I think I’m beginning to understand it too. She’s not mad that the more experienced and better qualified candidate did not win – she’s angry because a WOMAN didn’t win.

          20. stcroixcarp November 14, 2016

            Then I’m with Eleanore! Not only did the best candidate not win, she was also a woman. Yes, I am pissed off that a qualified woman lost to a sexually perverted male jackass.

          21. jmprint November 14, 2016

            And so am I “pissed off that a qualified woman lost to a sexually perverted male jackass.”

          22. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            And you have every right to be. Please, just don’t take it to the level that calling for a Civil War or secession seems like a rational response.

          23. Jim Samaras November 14, 2016

            You see things very clearly Gerry!

          24. Jim Samaras November 14, 2016

            I’ve informed them to stay out of your neighborhood where things like that have a propensity to happen hun

      2. Eleanore Whitaker November 14, 2016

        The truth is that Trump wanted Marla Maples to get an abortion. During the 18 months he was screwing around with her while still married to Ivana, Trump was going through that mess with the loss of over $900 million due to his “spending spree” when he bought that ostentatious show off yatch and the now infamous Taj Majal. He was warned by his CPA so watch his spending. When his divorced to Ivana was settled, he ended up hit with a $2 million a month alimony and Ivanka’s child support to pay. When Marla announced she was pregnant, Trump was already in debt. Then, when Marla threatened divorce, Trump demanded she get a paternity test to prove he hadn’t screwed her for all the years he was married to her.

        1. Mama Bear November 14, 2016

          I just blocked Gerry what’s his name. He has stepped too far over the line for me.

          1. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            Oh good for you. I’ll lose a lot of sleep.

        2. Moderate Black Woman November 14, 2016

          Ms. Whitaker, some of your postings are too much fun 🙂 I wanted you to know that your message to me (re my posting about blue states and abortion) brought a smile to my very sad face. Thanks very much.

      3. Moderate Black Woman November 14, 2016

        Dear Mama Bear, many years ago a woman like you kept me from dying. It breaks my heart that you might be put into such service again. I truly hope women in the states where it will soon become illegal will mobilize before it happens to them or someone they care for. Best.

        1. Mama Bear November 14, 2016

          Glad you had someone on your side! We are all one no matter how much the haters try to divide us. Stay strong, sister:)

          1. dbtheonly November 14, 2016

            Bless you and MBW.

            I confess being scared that Trump will set up neighborhood committees, “to get the message out”.

            But if it comes, tell me how to help.

          2. Mama Bear November 15, 2016

            what do you mean..”set up neighborhood committees to get the message out”? I have not heard that phrase and find it very scary.

          3. dbtheonly November 15, 2016

            Though it’s been too many years, I believe that it comes from Lewis’, “It Can’t happen Here”. I know the Nazis had them, just to make sure the message isn’t corrupted by the corrupt media, don’t you know.

            And, yes, you should be scared.

            It has happened here.

            On a similar basis as described.

            The question is whether we vociferously, but futilely, oppose, as Ms. Eleanore would have us do; or keep our heads down and try to avoid attention. I don’t want to see my family in one of those pictures of the Concentration Camps.

          4. Mama Bear November 15, 2016

            ah yes, now I recall the reference. I have been for a while now examining the possibility of moving to perhaps Canada (before they build their own wall) and have not sorted through all the data I have accumulated on how to proceed. This country could become something other than what we have had and other than the Founders intended. I am at an age where frankly I have nothing to lose by anything I do. I have no children (Mama Bear is what I have always been called for taking care of anyone and anything in need from stray animals to stray humans) so that is not a worry for me. I will stand up to anyone, not sure exactly what that means but I’m game. My mother and her sister were sent here at age 14 by her parents in Germany. They were next on the Nazi’s list and they were never heard from after she said good-bye to them. I will not be quiet and I will not be afraid.

          5. dpaano November 15, 2016

            The only problem with moving to Canada, from what I understand from a recent article I read, is that not only will you have to pay US taxes, but you’ll also have to pay Canadian taxes. Secondly, they make it extremely difficult for a U.S. Citizen to move to Canada….you have to have a job lined up or a means to support yourself. They also charge a fee for moving into Canada on top of everything else. From what I read…..they certainly don’t make it easy to just “step” across the border and become a Canadian citizen. I’m checking to see if I am a Canadian citizen….my mother was born in Regina, Saskatchewan, to two U.S. citizen parents, but I think that I am a Canadian citizen because I was born there. I’m checking with the Canadian Embassy in Los Angeles to see if I have dual citizenship in the U.S. and Canada. Wouldn’t that be a hoot!!!

          6. dbtheonly November 15, 2016

            God bless in that.

            I’m thinking the Mexican Border may be easier. But the trick is making sure we can still get out of the country.

          7. dpaano November 15, 2016

            You’re probably right…..I can speak a little Spanish. I’m game if you are!!!

          8. Mama Bear November 15, 2016

            you very well could be a dual citizen – and you are right, one does not need to go very far into researching it to discover it is not simple and maybe just not possible.

          9. dbtheonly November 15, 2016

            Please be assured that there are many here who value and appreciate you.

            I will ask you to consider being less valuable and visible in your resistance to the Reich. If we’re going to be the Scarlet Pimpernels of the 21st Century, we need to keep off their radar.

            I will ask you to be prudent. I won’t ask you to be afraid. I’m afraid quite enough for both of us.

          10. Mama Bear November 15, 2016

            thank you. I will be prudent – great word by the way:) I think fear is a real mind killer, but I also think that courage is a reaction to fear, not an absence of it.

          11. dbtheonly November 15, 2016

            My Daughter got in my face asserting that I was condoning rape when I urged her to be prudent when she went off to college.

            I will still hope and pray for the best, but I expect the worst. I’m starting to prepare to disappear if the need arises. Too many people thought it wasn’t necessary. They’re the reason we have a Holocaust Museum.

            Winter is here.

          12. Mama Bear November 15, 2016

            Where are you thinking of disappearing to?

          13. dbtheonly November 15, 2016

            There’s the option of fleeing north or south.

            Or just dropping off the grid and trying to live unnoticed and anonymous. Having a passport ready and enough gold coins sewn into the linings of my clothes.

          14. Mama Bear November 16, 2016

            I would be so interested to hear how you see this all playing out in the next couple of years. Here is an article I just read, if you have not read it I think you will find it thoughtful. I guess we could substitute any minority for muslim and ask ourselves the question over and over.
            http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/11/muslims-immigrants-minorities-lgbt-white-allies

          15. dbtheonly November 16, 2016

            I had a nice reply to you but apparently it got moderated away.

          16. Mama Bear November 17, 2016

            maybe not. I have noticed on Disqus several times I post a response or comment and even if it is just a simple “you go girl” or similar it sometimes does not show up. I think it is a glitch in the system. I have taken to copying and pasting to a Word doc anything that i write that I do not want to disappear and then when I see it is not posted I repost and it show up.

          17. dbtheonly November 17, 2016

            Actually it might have been me quoting an elderly man of my youthful acquaintance, who had survived occupation. He used foul language for the only time when he said that you don’t “fool” with the Gestapo.

          18. Mama Bear November 17, 2016

            could have been but I have seen that word on posts here before.

          19. dbtheonly November 16, 2016

            When thew Nazis required Jews in Denmark to wear the yellow star, King Christian wore one as well.

            I hope I have the courage to do the same.

            Lewis’, “It Can’t Happen Here”, the TV series “V”, or the real Nazi actions are signs to watch for.

          20. dpaano November 16, 2016

            Come to California…..our governor has said he will NOT follow Federal guidelines when it comes to immigration, sanctuary cities, etc. We have a VERY strong state, and it’s VERY strongly Democrat!

          21. dbtheonly November 16, 2016

            Thanks. I may well take you up on that.

            But are we the new Nullifiers? Do I have to say nice things about John C Calhoun?

          22. dpaano November 16, 2016

            Whatever “nullifiers” means, I’m in. And, no, you don’t have to say nice things about Calhoun OR about Issa either! We’re hoping that Issa was voted out this past election, but still waiting to hear the results in San Diego.

          23. dbtheonly November 16, 2016

            Nullifiers, Nullification, pre-Civil War Southern idea that the States could reject or nullify and Federal Law they objected to. Frequently applied to the tariff. Senator Calhoon was a big proponent. President Jackson threatened to hang him if he tried.

          24. dpaano November 22, 2016

            Okay, thanks. That’s kinda what I thought, but I wanted to make sure.

      4. dpaano November 14, 2016

        What really gets me is that they are totally against Planned Parenthood, which is a very good organization that does MORE than push abortions. They do breast exams, mammography’s, birth control and planned parenthood information. The percentage of PP groups that actually do abortions are extremely small! This group has done more for women and families than any other organization, but the GOP thinks differently! Pretty sad!

        1. dbtheonly November 14, 2016

          Indeed, asking for logical consistency from the Republicans is futile.

          1. dpaano November 15, 2016

            Do they even know the meaning of the word “logical” or “consistency?”

          2. dbtheonly November 15, 2016

            Log-ical has to do something with lumber.

          3. dpaano November 15, 2016

            Duh…..

        2. Mama Bear November 15, 2016

          The only conclusion I can reach, D, is that these men just simply want total control over women. If they destroy PP and take birth control off the menu then I think women need to say “No abortion, no birth control, no sex” and wait them out. How long before these neanderthals might change their “moral” stance on the subject?

          1. dpaano November 15, 2016

            I agree….if we refuse to give them what they want because we’re afraid to get pregnant and have to be forced to have a child we didn’t want to begin with, then they have NO excuse and will have to live with it! Why should we be stuck raising a child we didn’t plan for and didn’t want….neither of which is good for the child anyway? I always wondered why the GOP was so against abortion, but as soon as the woman HAD the child, they disappeared…..no welfare, no assistance, nothing…..they just disappeared into the woodwork! They want you to have the child, but they don’t want to help you to support it in any way!!

    3. stcroixcarp November 14, 2016

      All women should demand that men get vasectomies.

      1. dpaano November 14, 2016

        I’m all for that!!!! It has always amazed me that insurance will pay for Viagra, but they won’t pay for medications for women to lose weight or to fight pregnancy! I bet even Hobby Lobby doesn’t have any qualms against male employees getting Viagra….wanna bet I’m right?

        1. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

          What’s worse than that to me is that some insurance companies will pay for Viagra but won’t pay for an Epi-pen that could save a child’s life if they are stung by a bee or eat something with nuts.

        2. latebloomingrandma November 14, 2016

          I believe most insurance policies covered vasectomy for years, but there was no hue and cry over this from religious people. Not until women asked for equal treatment.

      2. Jim Samaras November 14, 2016

        Huh? OMG that’s a stupid statement!

  12. Todd Nelson November 14, 2016

    As I read this, I thought how wonderful it must be to live in a world where reality is just an option. LOLGOP conveniently forgets that those millions who will be deported are in America ILLEGALLY. The other candidate in this election has made a fortune accepting gifts and donations from countries that kill gays just because they are gay, and treat women like chattel. Our existing president has gone around congress because he lost his majority and couldn’t get his illegal policies enacted. His use of executive orders has been profligate, and the courts have declared his actions to be illegal. Talk about acting like Hitler… Then there is the corruption of Mrs. Clinton. Vladimir Putin has been the straw man erected by the most corrupt campaign in history when they got caught by someone hacking their emails. The emails show an entire party structure that is corrupt beyond what anyone could ever have imagined. NO wonder the Clinton campaign tried to shift the attention from the emails from what is in them to where they came from. But the Russians, most likely, had nothing to do with the emails at all. From what I have found in my research is the hacker is actually from New Zealand. He is the world’s premier hacker. He was caught by the US government doing a Napster on serious steroids. He is seriously angry for what he lost and is doing this to get even. He has the ability to make it look like he is using the same techniques as the Russians.
    Donald Trump is not a racist, and has more women in postions of power in his companies than any other individual. I have done business with a number of his companies as a subcontractor and everyone I have spoken to says that it is ability and loyalty that gets you ahead in his companies. Color, race, religious orientation, and sex mean nothing, just your abilities. I did this work long before he got involved in politics, and, as a subcontractor in Florida, I always got paid, and called back again, because I was willing to work as fast as the project went, and with Trump, things got done quickly. Now he has won, and the democrats have lost. As Obama said “elections have consequences”, live with it.

    Reply
    1. jmprint November 14, 2016

      A lot of those being deported have been in the United States longer then the future First Lady tramp, they just don’t have the resources she has, but they both entered our wonderful country in the very same manner, and broke the same law.

    2. johninPCFL November 14, 2016

      Teddy Roosevelt HAD 1,081
      WHT-704
      Woodrow Wilson-1,803
      Harding 522
      FDR-3,522
      HST-907
      DDE-484
      JFK-214
      LBJ-325
      Nixon-346
      Carter-320
      Reagan-381
      GHWB-166
      Bill Clinton-308
      GWB-291
      BHO-261

      So profligate with EOs that he caught up with neither Reagan nor GWB.

      1. Zengo November 14, 2016

        yeah but John, he is black!

        1. dpaano November 15, 2016

          Yeah, although the GOP won’t admit it….this was their main reason for not working with President Obama!!

          1. ivory69690@yahoo.com November 16, 2016

            its truly sad that one party can do every thing against the people that put them into office from a childish spite cost the country 22 to 25$ billion on a shut down because thy couldn’t get their way the ZIKA virus ive seen and read of it and how dangerous it is and instead of doing something to help the people of the country with it the GOP go’s on vacation

          2. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

            19 trillion in debt thank you Obama no more jive talkin bshit from this Fraud who you support you Liberal idiot!!! 8 years of real America!!!

            MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!! You can’t do a thing hahahahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhahaha

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1f5ec2a8fb15a75460fe8b21b59cd3f71ba279072441490fb75ad3b342f26f8b.jpg

    3. dpaano November 14, 2016

      Seriously? And you believe all this BS…..apparently, you are one of the brainwashed many who believe everything that you’ve heard….every conspiracy theory that the GOP has come up with…..every lie that Trump has told…..

      1. dbtheonly November 14, 2016

        But Trump actually paid him.

        If we believe him.

      2. ivory69690@yahoo.com November 16, 2016

        the thing with it the GOP started on Hillary a long time ago with their B/S then admitter it that thy wanted just to make her look bad . the work of the GOP gang of pinheads and idiots is a sad time in the country’s history

      3. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

        Brainwashed Liberals are hateful, ignorant, low energy and plain liberally stupid!!! the lie is Liberalism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/02d177e325c4eb781735d9f20f1f0455c3191dbd5fb329081bdc04d9c7c6f01d.png

  13. woodrose November 14, 2016

    We should all be agitating for a top to bottom cleaning out of the DNC. I’m appalled that DC Democrats are going about business as usual after such abject failure. Donna Brazile should have already resigned. House Democrats should ditch Ms. Pacific Heights Pelosi. Senate Democrats should ditch Mr. Wall Street Schumer. But it appears that they learned nothing.

    It was breathtaking political malpractice for the Democratic leadership to insist that Hillary was the strongest possible nominee in 2016. They really expected the working class to vote for Mrs. NAFTA? They really expected young people choking on student loan debt to vote in huge numbers for the lady who gave quarter million dollar speeches to Goldman Sachs?

    Hillary lost formerly-blue Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Iowa because her husband signed NAFTA and GATT/WTO and Permanent Normal Trade Relations with China, shipping millions of blue collar jobs out of the country.

    November 8, 2016: The Day The Rust Belt Got Its Revenge on the Clintons

    Reply
    1. jmprint November 14, 2016

      And then revenge bites them in ass, when they find out that, the only goal a Trump administration had was to make America an alt-tight agenda and allow the rich to get richer, and the middle class poorer and without voice. You saw how hard it was to get out of the mess Bush left us with, but that wasn’t good enough you want us to be deeper in the hole.

      1. TZToronto November 14, 2016

        Let all of those who voted for Trump, hoping that their jobs that were sent to China and elsewhere will soon be coming back, will keep track of how many jobs are returning to their communities (few if any, I suspect). I hope they consistently check the “Made In” labels on the products they buy to confirm that products currently made in China, India, Vietnam, and other low-wage countries are suddenly Made In America (don’t expect that). And then I hope they make sure that when their financial situations do not improve (while those of the 1% just get better and better), their savior knows that they’re not happy with his performance. And I hope that it won’t be too late to fix things when they realize that they’ve been conned.

        1. stcroixcarp November 14, 2016

          But what would their poor teenagers do without their NIKEs?
          We need to stop the love affair with brands, brands that charge high prices but pay low labor costs and no taxes overseas.

        2. jmprint November 14, 2016

          I think we can always fix the economy as we have done in the past, but the division the republican and alt right have been working over 50 years on for domination, I just don’t know what it’s going to take for the United States of America to be “One Nation Under God” with justice and equality for ALL.

          1. dpaano November 14, 2016

            It’s what the GOP has planned for years…..an “imperial” presidency. They’ve taken over the presidency, the Senate, the House, the Congress, the Supreme Court, many of the states…..what else to they need to take over before we can kiss democracy good bye!

          2. ivory69690@yahoo.com November 16, 2016

            one can only hope and pray the SCJ’s all stay in and alive . no chance of the DUMPSTER clown getting a 2nd term . for the brain dead followers all can already see the B/S lies of DONNY DUMP

        3. dpaano November 14, 2016

          I’m still waiting for Trump to bring his clothing line manufacturing back from China to the U.S.A. We haven’t heard ANYTHING about that despite his constant stream of BS that he’s going to bring jobs back to the U.S……apparently, that didn’t include HIS jobs!

          1. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            I’m still waiting for “The Proof”. Which one do you think is going to come first? Jobs or proof?

          2. dpaano November 15, 2016

            At this point, neither can be expected!

          3. ivory69690@yahoo.com November 16, 2016

            the DONNY DUMP’S twitter account has came first the child’s toy for the child minded clown as for the other that was said to come . none of the above all he spoke of was his B/S just saying what the brain dead followers wanted to hear . thy will be left out hanging and to dry pretty much like the DUMPSTER’S TRUMP DUMP U

          4. ivory69690@yahoo.com November 16, 2016

            one has to think how truly brain dead the clowns followers are knowing a lot about this mental deranged retard and just choose to be blinded by the facts of the disordered POS

          5. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

            How u feel losers you crying…..awwwwwwww crying

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVlHZh5dvbA

  14. towercam November 14, 2016

    Wow, what a shitty article. 🙂

    Admit my foe is stronger than the will of The People?? Dream on!
    Better yet, find a different job. The GOP will LOVE you.

    You know the article is crap when they don’t have to guts to reveal the author.
    This is one such article.
    The lot of you are fired. I hear Amtrack is hiring.

    Reply
    1. Thoughtopsy November 14, 2016

      Says the guy posting under a pseudonym.
      Allow me to apply your own logic and assume your answer is crap.

      Trump (the elitist bankrupting corrupt Billionaire) was elected to “drain the swamp” and “shake up Washington”.
      You won’t be able to imagine how amusing it’s going to be to watch him do exactly the opposite to you… and embed himself in the trough, surround himself with cronies, and suck as much money out of it as he can.

      He’s already merging his business and the Presidency.
      He’s already appointing the professional political bottom feeders to his Administration.
      He’s already said he’s fine with gay marriage.
      He’s already said parts of his “Big Beautiful Wall” will be more like “a fence”…
      LOLOL

      I’m going to love watching you realise that we were right and you’ve been comprehensively conned by a narcissistic assh0le with no morals, standards or ethics.

      Enjoy the next 4 years.

      1. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

        You’re 100 correct. Sadly though, that’s the only way we’ll be able to ease the pain as he destroys this already great country………watching the Trumpers reactions as they realize that they have been conned.

        1. Thoughtopsy November 14, 2016

          This election was a horrible comment on humanity.
          I personally feel sad that President-Elect F**kface Von Clownsitck won by acting like a racist moron and lying his ass off.

          Consequently I’ll take any amusement and schadenfreude I can get.

          1. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            I agree. That our society has gone down the drain to a point that his actions are acceptable is really hard to take. And from the ‘conservatives’ – Vangards of Morality no less.

        2. Gail Ferraiolo November 14, 2016

          What an idiot you are! You are so blinded by Hillery is so far up your Ass that she and obama has planned all along to take over our country! Trump is not the threat it’s Hillery Soros and obama! They are the White House mafia! The ice queen shister and the rest of the pack should be lynched Hillery stole 6 billion dollars when she was Secretary of State! Did she share it with you!

          1. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

            I guess you have proof of that theft. If you don’t see that banning the press corps from the White House is the first step toward the the dismantling of the Bill of Rights and the beginning of the end of freedom as you now know it – you are the idiot with your head so far up your ass the brown ring is down by your belly button.

          2. dpaano November 15, 2016

            First of all, there was NO money stolen from the White House…it was an accounting error for which Hillary had no part in at all. The money was never “stolen” or “missing.” Again, just another conspiracy theory thrown out there by the Trump campaign with NO factual proof whatsoever. It has already been proven that this was a major lie.

          3. socialsavvy February 8, 2017

            Strange, you claim God’s wisdom for your self then speak like a tramp. You would not know what is best for anyone nor do you know the truth.

        3. Zengo November 14, 2016

          They will never realize they’ve been conned. I am awaiting all of the verbal gymnastics they will perform to justify and rationalize it when Drumph starts behaving 180 degrees from his positions on the campaign

          1. dpaano November 15, 2016

            Just read an article in the L.A. Times this morning about how Trump will NOT be able to put most of the Rust Belt workers back to work. They don’t seem to realize that even jobs in China are mechanized, computerized, and roboticized. There are NO jobs that they could do without additional training. Hillary had campaigned on the fact that she wanted to get money to re-train people so that they could function in the new manufacturing platform. According to the people who know, he will NOT be able to recover jobs even if he brings companies back from overseas based on the fact that manufacturing as the Rust Belt USED to know it is no longer the same! They just don’t fit in anymore and won’t unless they go back to school and learn. So, it should be interesting when they figure out that Trump once again “conned” them with his lies about getting their jobs back. I want to wish them all luck with that!

          2. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

            Wow Liberalism hatred is alive 1 answer deport them all!

          3. Zengo December 5, 2016

            Hey look, its another Under-educated!

          4. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

            Hey Look, another low energy racist liberal who hates anyone who disagree’s with him…the Liberal Racist party will be proud!!
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5fc72321d1bac29a726763663d66fb0ae8d03483972268dd8689343dd55da9f1.jpg

      2. Jon November 14, 2016

        Shouldn’t his thugs at his rallies have been screaming “Drive That Fence Post” instead of “Build The Wall”?

    2. jmprint November 14, 2016

      You changed your name, but the cover is still soiled.

    3. Gerry Francis November 14, 2016

      Working for Amtrack is supposed to be a slur or something? You familiar with the Railway Labor Act?

    1. Zengo November 14, 2016

      Otto, if you hurry, you can make it to the Klan victory parade for trump!

      1. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

        Zengo if you hurry you can join the Racist Democrackhead party and cry, protest or leave the Country!!! We know your kind ignorant, low energy & Liberally incompetent!!!

        1. Zengo December 5, 2016

          Another gem from the Alt-smart!

          1. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

            You will do nothing you liberal coward..you will hide like the liberal thug you are! You lost we won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            Gone Obama is Gone hahahahahhahahahahahahaha
            Another Liberal racist post from a liberal thug!

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/420e26c996838c43b96f7f31238d95af44ab8fd5beccf1bac1771b283ce766d0.png

      2. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

        Did you cry, protest or leave the country you sick liberal creature? You look like a pos! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/225b4205a9119083b5ba8d4abb8e24801bf031ac7b79d9fb1ca53fc67414ee2e.png

      3. Scott Scottie July 10, 2017

        If you hurry Zengo you can make it to the Pro-Terrorists for Hillary tear in your beer party… Lol!

        1. Zengo July 10, 2017

          Wow, Scott, you know in comedy, timing is everything

      4. Scott Scottie July 10, 2017

        Sorry I was late Zengo, unlike you I work… Crawl out from under the day bed Mom’s bridge club is gone… But don’t light anymore bud, Bud…. Lol! Mom used 6 cans of room. Freshener….

    2. jmprint November 15, 2016

      He is laughing at all his supports. See how easy it is for a con man to fool you.

  15. Box November 15, 2016

    Fight? Kill? Destroy property?

    Well, thats just it, the pictogram below shows life in a normal election, doesnt it. But its not normal, the globalists, communists, Soros open-borderists are fighting a new fight and the other side will fight for its life too.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/160cc4856fab68e951728274f87c163397d40b579f73dfe894e5a03e39acbbdb.jpg

    Reply
    1. JPHALL November 15, 2016

      What a joke! You right wingers spent seven years whining and complaining about Obama. Get over yourself.

      1. Box November 15, 2016

        What joke? Im a democrat who voted for Obama. Those who opposed Obama didnt create violence, they whined but accepted the result and didnt threaten to kill him or anything. I dont have to get over anything.

        1. jmprint November 15, 2016

          No they just got together to make sure they would make it very hard for President Obama to have the legacy he has anyway. touché.

        2. JPHALL November 15, 2016

          A YOU REALLY THIS DENSE? All the attacks on Obama and his family you missed? You claim to be a Democrat yet most of this year you were pushing right wing falsities.

    2. ivory69690@yahoo.com November 16, 2016

      getting the country out of the worse time since the 1929 crash of the country . first who left the country in this grave was a GOP idiot . and another GOP king clown will do it again . one of these times there might not be a DEM to save the country and the world from the GOP that has bury the country and maybe world . ones that call this crappy most speak from where the crap comes from thy just move their head around so their mouth is lined up with the hole then talks out their AZZ

    3. Aaron_of_Portsmouth November 24, 2016

      Box, you’re truly a sick and obsessive little fellow. All you do lately in life is bitch and moan.Never any thoughtful comment, not even an inkling how to move forward aside from the same old same-old. Any chance you can get more creative and inspirational? You’re the Eeyore in human form.

      1. GODBlessRealAmerica December 11, 2016

        president Trump babyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

  16. barbara.walker.91 November 15, 2016

    It’s been 1 yr since I decided to resign from my office job and I am so happy now… I started freelancing on-line, for this company I discovered on-line, for several hours each day, and I earn much more than i did on my office work… Last check i got was for $9000… The best thing about this gig is that i have more time to spend with my family… http://chilp.it/8d93f4b

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  17. BDD1951 November 16, 2016

    Go to Cedar Hill, TX/Chilis Restaurant. At least these racists bigots used to keep their mouth shut. Now Trump has unleased the hatred so badly that a black veteran has been has been dishonored by one of his stupid supporters.

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    1. dpaano November 16, 2016

      I thought it was pretty sad to say the least! As a veteran myself, I will NEVER step into a Chili’s Restaurant again!

      1. dbtheonly November 16, 2016

        It’s kinda unfair to burn all Chili’s for the actions at one restaurant.

        1. dpaano November 22, 2016

          I don’t care……I don’t frequent Hobby Lobby or Papa John’s either…..but that’s my choice and I’m sticking to it!

          1. jmprint December 5, 2016

            And neither do I. I used to recommend Hobby Lobby, until they decided that their faith in cultism, should have a say in womanhood.

      2. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

        Only liberal racist luv Starbucks…enjoy you kinda llook like her!

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/225b4205a9119083b5ba8d4abb8e24801bf031ac7b79d9fb1ca53fc67414ee2e.png

    2. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

      Granny sit down you liberal lunatic! Obama is the worse President eva!!!
      Crooked evil Lying Hillary is a fraud like you! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/edf4b2aeed5d38e4a24fad4f7d21ebda560771d2c0dc3d106182ba1a110c5cee.png

  18. noboundryman November 18, 2016

    Many of my family fought on the front lines against fascism in Europe in the 1930s and 40s, as well barbarism in Asia, and the Pacific. To my very core, i’m suspicious of foreign adversaries with totalitarian governments, which has become more the norm than the exception. The deaths of (60 million) people occurred only ten years before I was born because of fascist lunatics like Donald Trump, and his insane vulgar crew. The shattered bodies, and devastated souls of the thousands of veterans, and victims of that insanity were present everywhere in my life, my teachers, neighbors, bosses, mentors. Yet, far more than their warnings to be vigilant, prepared for a dangerous world, was their admonition to (build “bridges”, not “walls”). The “ludicrous” idea of building a wall across our borders, is so insane, so completely off the wall bonkers, it barely deserves a demented child’s consideration. The construction of a physical barrier along the US Southern border is completely insane. (Boeing Corporation) one of the largest most tech savvy defense companies in the world, tried just an (electronic fence) with listening sensory posts stretched out across the landscape. Nearly (“$3,000,000,000 B” taxpayer dollars) was spent, and we have nothing left but a pile of junk rotting in the desert sun. It will be the same with any stupid fence. HUNDREDS OF “BILLIONS” of scarce “borrowed” dollars will be squandered, then abandoned. Meanwhile it will devastate whole communities, the lives of millions of people, devastate the environment, wild life migrations, water supply agreements on both sides of the border. Trump and his lunatic fringe maniacs have to be stopped. We are holding the Republican majority in congress directly responsible for the continuation of this criminally insane irresponsible behavior. Target the Republican menace by any legal means necessary. Boycott their products, TV, Radio, consumer goods. Shun them in the community,, Fire them, cut them out of every deal. Contribute to their competitor. Destroy their political infrastructure as if it was a war, because this is a war we can not afford to loose. Death to the Fascists, and all their twisted caveman, moron ideas. It’s self defense now, pure and simple.

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    1. Box November 26, 2016

      Goodness, you are really off the cliff with that. Calm down, man. You’ll get yourself hurt.

      1. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

        LOL shes a liberal lunatic .. what u expect!

    2. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

      YOU HAVE TO BE STOPPED YOU LIBERAL MORON!!!!!!!!!!!
      Target all liberal stores and businesses protest & boycott these evil Liberals!!!!!!!!!!

      PRESIDENT TRUMP 2017!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/01a1da745fdc97ed63d8b921b55e7fc6b68f60e4cdfa521d97a44e431f92a437.jpg

  19. carmen.bise November 18, 2016

    It’s been 1 year since I abandoned my office work and it was a best decision i made in my life… I started freelancing at home, for a company I found on-line, for several hrs a day, and my income now is much bigger then it was on my office work… My paycheck for last month was for $9000… Superb thing about this work is that now i have more time for my family… http://chilp.it/8d93f4b

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  20. patricia.franks December 4, 2016

    1 yr ago I decided to resign from my previous work and I am so happy now… I started doing work from comfort of my house, for a company I discovered on-line, few hrs every day, and I make much more than i did on my old work… Last pay-check i got was for $9k… The best thing about it is the more time i got for my family… http://secure47.com

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  21. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

    1 way you can FIGHT Against Liberalism and Democrackhead party!!!

    DEPORT THESE EVIL BASTARDS! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0656e52eda665ac8d4cc2136b05dabb93de147d493f6ebc494dfb934da3ac644.png

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  22. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

    Merry Christmas you Liberal Democrackhead racist morons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Keep hope alive!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW85ZcswiqM&feature=youtu.be

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