Who would have imagined Howard Stern – the bawdy “king of all media” – presenting a fair, respectful, and very candid interview with Hillary Clinton? The former Democratic presidential nominee took a leap of faith in sitting down with Stern, whose reputation for unbridled sexism (and generally obnoxious behavior) still precedes him. Maybe she listened to Stern’s own remarkable two-part interview with Fresh Air’s Terry Gross, when he spoke about profound changes in his persona and outlook.

Actually, he confesses to being a longtime Hillary fan. Howard being Howard, though, he couldn’t help asking about old rumors spread by the far right concerning Hillary’s sexual preference. Predictably, that drew media attention, but there’s a lot more substantive and less salacious content in this episode. Stern is no dummy; he just played one on the radio.

While the entire interview is worth checking out, the real Hillary comes across in this exchange about the two presidents she knows best – Bill Clinton and Barack Obama – and why Obama asked her to serve in his administration. This is the leader her supporters know and admire. Of all people it’s Howard Stern who reminds us again what the nation lost in 2016.

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