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Supreme Court Strikes Down ALEC-Backed Voting Restriction

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Supreme Court Strikes Down ALEC-Backed Voting Restriction


By a 7-2 margin, the Supreme Court has struck down a law that required proof of citizenship when registering to vote.

Arizona’s Proposition 200, which was passed by voters in 2004, targeted immigrants but ended up preventing 31,500 residents from registering to vote, according to a brief filed by the Mexican American Legal Defense Fund (MALDEF). The affected Arizonans were equally Democrats and Republicans, and mostly white.

Prop 200 was supported by Russell Pearce, who later backed Arizona’s SB 1070, which allowed police officers to ask for proof of citizenship during a “lawful stop, detention or arrest” if the officer had a “reasonable suspicion” the person was undocumented. Pearce took that bill to the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), which turned it into model legislation to be offered along with voter identification requirements in other states. It has recently been adopted in Alabama, Kansas and Tennessee.

Today’s ruling in Arizona v. Inter Tribal Council of Arizona gives precedence to the National Voter Registration Act of 1993, which requires anyone registering to simply check a box to attest under threat of perjury that he or she is a citizen of the United States. The Arizona law added the requirement of a birth certificate, naturalization papers or a driver’s license issued after a birth certificate became required for licensing.

Arizona can still require identification at the polls.

The most surprising part of the decision was that it was authored by Justice Antonin Scalia, who recently called the Voting Rights Act “a perpetuation of racial entitlement.” Not only did Scalia rule in favor of making it easier to vote, he gave the federal government the power to set the standards for state-level election practices — though he did leave open the option for the state to revise and resubmit its proof of citizenship requirements.

“This is significant, ” Wendy Weiser, a voting rights expert for the Brennan Center for Justice, told The Washington Post‘s Greg Sargent. “It’s an affirmation of Congress’ critical role in regulating voting and having minimal national standards at a time when many Americans are hoping Congress is going to step in and impose further national standards.”

“Today’s ruling could serve as a deterrent for states that are considering making it harder to register to vote,” writes The Nation‘s Ari Berman, who is writing a book about the GOP’s ongoing war on voting.

But proof of citizenship is just one tool being used in ALEC’s assault on the right to vote.

The Court will rule on Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act this week or next. Killing this crown jewel of the voting rights movement has been a conservative dream for years.

UPDATE: AZCentral.com’s Brahm Reznik reports that the ruling won’t affect state forms, which are used to register more than 90 percent of Arizona’s voters.

AP Photo/J Pat Carter, File



  1. rockcut June 17, 2013

    A victory for ” Common Sense”. Will these ALEC Gopers every learn????

  2. tax payer June 17, 2013

    I am confused. You can register to vote and not have to show proof of who you are, if you are an illegal. Is that what it means because it tells everyone to show up and register, and they will allow you to vote for Obama in his next lifetime.

    1. avahome June 17, 2013

      It means if you cannot find your birth certificate….say born on the prairie or other circumstances but have always voted in the past…………you can still vote.
      And this is just a for instance.

      1. Canistercook June 17, 2013

        Wonder how many voters were ‘born on the prairie’ these days!

        1. Allan Richardson June 17, 2013

          Many senior citizens who have been voting since they were old enough (and, thanks to the Voting Rights Act, no longer “too black” to register) were born at home and never got a birth certificate, or were born in a small town that is no longer incorporated, and its city hall burned down many years ago. Or had their birth recorded in the family Bible, which has since been lost or destroyed (say, when the Klan burned their house down).

          The point is that there are many more people who are legal, US born citizens, which even an elections official would admit upon seeing them, who do not have or need credit cards or driver’s licenses, but have a legal right to vote. Many of these people are too poor to pay a $25 to $50 fee to get their birth certificate (even if one of the above scenarios did not make it impossible to find the birth record), not to mention the nursing assistance that many would require, due to handicaps, in order to make the trip (a taxi ride for an able bodied person may cost up to $50, but a ride accompanied by a nurse or EMT could be beyond even YOUR budget).

          The point of the ALEC sponsored laws is not to stop illegal aliens from voting; it is to stop people like THIS from voting, by making them prove the obvious, but undocumented, fact that they were born in the United States.

          Some other laws ALEC is pushing in some states aim to stop STUDENTS from voting in the college towns where they spend most of their time. Obviously they feel students as well as minority voters are the “wrong” kind of electorate.

          1. Canistercook June 17, 2013

            Fine so we will make an exception to make sure those ‘senior citizens’ can vote who can show a reasonable reason they don’t have a photo ID but not everyone else! Also we can establish programs where stat DMV ‘s are required to issue a photo ID to the poor free if they do not have one and need one. My vote is wasted if someone votes under 6 different names or an illegal votes and that is certainly not fair.
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          2. tax payer June 17, 2013

            Sounds like the illegals that bring their babies born in their country and swear on a Bible they were born in this country.

        2. plc97477 June 17, 2013

          That’s okay we can just stop the older voters (who may have been born on the prairie). That should mean the repugs will not win an election for a long time.

          1. Canistercook June 17, 2013

            Wonder how many of them there really are left! guess the all vote democratic! Wonder what the future holds for all in this communistic type environment!
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        3. ObozoMustGo June 17, 2013

          Funny how the leftist freaks take the most rare of rare of the rarist of possibilities and hold it out as a reason that the rest of us AMERICAN CITIZENS have to take a bake seat to the illegals. They are all LIARS. One and all if they cannot admit that the only reason they support open voting without proof of ID or citizenship is because they know 70%+ of the illegals are DemonRATS. The rest of their excuses are false arguments.

          Have a nice day!

          “When men once get the habit of helping themselves to the property of others,” warned the New York Times in 1909 about the proposed federal income tax, “they are not easily cured of it.’”

          1. Canistercook June 17, 2013

            With half the population now getting some kind of government check we sure are in trouble. Most government union members, blacks, welfare recipients, many Hispanics and those who will get free medical care will all support the left wing of the democrats so I don’ see much hope for a really productive country. Trouble is I am too old to relocate to Switzerland or Germany where most people are still productive citizens. I always felt we should help the deserving needy but now feel we are hoping a heck of a lot of demanding lazy greedy along with the true greedy. Sure wonder what we should do about guy who has fathered 9 children by 6 different women and is on ‘disability’ and ‘octomum’. Guess it is my job to work to feed them!
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          2. tax payer June 17, 2013

            If the needy want help than let them help themselves because I will never help them because who helps me? Let them rot, so our tax money can be used for positive things such as deporting every illegal in this country.

          3. Canistercook June 17, 2013

            As a taxpayer I somewhat agree but there are people who through no fault of their own run into difficulty and deserve help, but it has gotten out of control when 26 year olds are treated as children on their parents insurance and someone else is taxed to support them. Seems like adulthood for many is now 27 to 50 especially for government. Workers who retire at 50 or 55! Entitlements are poorly checked and out of control along with government workers pay and pensions. But the lefties are part of that group and love living off the ‘rich’ taxpayers!
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          4. tax payer June 17, 2013

            The needy will always take advantage of free handouts since it means they can stay home and live like a King. They’ll laugh at those that work, so they can stay home all their life and parasite off the tax payers. When they get old they instantly qualify for SSI and free Medicaid for having nothing since they didn’t work one single day in their lazy life.

          5. DurdyDawg June 17, 2013

            Live like a king my ass.. Try to live reasonably on $300.00 a month and 45 hours sitting in line waiting for those remnants that helps pay for meals and a roof because no jobs are available. Most of these people that you spit on are going through hard times.. before, they contributed to the progress of this nation then the sharks took everything away from them except their dignity that you seem to want to do. Not one of them wants to rely on welfare, in fact their embarrass ed just having to but they must or else die. For those small groups who do abuse the tax payer’s generosity?.. That’s what the g’ment is for, to monitor and make sure those who receive actually need it. they’re the one’s you should prod to do their friggin’ jobs.

          6. Canistercook June 18, 2013

            I had a neighbor like that who always maxes out her credit card buying junk and said ‘the government will have to take care of me’ and the ‘government did’ with food stamps, section 8 housing and Medicaid. Trouble is I her neighbor ‘is’ the government these days!
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          7. tax payer June 18, 2013

            My neighbors all around me have an easy life because of us that provide for them. I am talking about expensive homes, but Section-8 Housing pays for their lease. Their children are out on the streets only wearing diapers and begging other neighbors to buy them an ice cream bar from the ice cream truck that passes by everyday. No one buys them anything because most of those ice cream trucks accept the Lone Star Card in Texas, which happens to be the Free Food Card the Government gives to everyone in ( NEED ) in this country. We buy our ice cream at a store and save 75% or more, so these people only trade their allowance of benefits for beer, and cigarettes, but buy only Noodles for their children.

          8. Canistercook June 18, 2013

            Most of them have never filled out a 1040 in their life, only a welfare application. What do you think all those young gang members are living off? The taxpayer and if they get shot they are medically insured and guaranteed the best treatment. Wonder how much socialism works before it collapses the productivity system!
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          9. DurdyDawg June 26, 2013

            Well NOW your making sense. You were talking about everyone on aid and now your being specific and a terrible tale indeed. This too would enrage me but further, my rage would have to include the brain dead case worker who allowed such fraud. My point is this does not include the legitimate needy or have I misunderstood you again?

          10. Canistercook June 26, 2013

            The legitimate needy is not included, but those that by default choose to become needy should not live off the taxpayers. Some people work hard and others take advantage of them. It’s a big world out there and I wonder how many ‘poor’ people I have been recruited to work to support in what kind of lifestyle. Values used to mean something but I am beginning to believe they are vanishing in a society that says I have a ‘right’ and am entitled to half of what you work for regardless od how much effort I make to support myself.
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          11. DurdyDawg June 17, 2013

            Not to mention wars and rumors of war, congress raises.. more corporate welfare.. Much more tax breaks for the wealthy.. Much much more aid to third world countries who don’t give squat for us as well as enemy nations who enjoy threatening us with their pop guns because they know we’ll sedate them by paying their rent.. Yeah! let’s use our tax money for people who don’t need or deserve it and let the poor and middle class of this nation suffer from lack of jobs and pathetic over-priced medical care that no senior citizen can afford from the private establishment.. Why should we care? Their not any kin to us and if one or two are then we could exempt them from our hatred. You idiots are stupidly naive if you think our g’ment would use these entitlements for you or this nation.. The military needs a new armada of drones, let’s gut social security so we can protect the one’s who live through the cuts feel safe from those godless commi, uh.. I mean terrorists.tax payer my ass hairs.. tax ‘sucker’ is more apt. (knucklehead bigot).

          12. tax payer June 17, 2013

            How does it feel to be able to put down some actual sentences, but not make much sense? You need to reread my comments, so you’ll see I mean those that have never worked a day of their life. I am sorry, if you get $300.00 a month from Welfare ( the way you make it sound), but I used to make it on $40.00 a week, so I never felt sorry for myself because I did something to improve my quality of life. I got a better paying job. The Government is there only because we allow it, so if we stop paying taxes will they arrest all of us? No, because have they arrested all the illegals and deported them? No! Why not? I am one person that comments here like everyone else and to pick on me because I tell the truth is quite insane on your part. Choose the right words and than maybe I can tell what you are trying to say because right now I am only guessing.

          13. smilee June 26, 2013

            Would you like it if I found your half beaten to death and just walked by and laughed at your predicament????

          14. tax payer June 26, 2013

            I won’t even stop to help someone that has passed me up going one hundred miles an hour and I see their vehicle in a ball of fire further up the road because they deserved what they get for being in a hurry. I pretend I saw nothing and keep on driving, and not risk my life to help them. Needy people sometimes are people that refuse to work, so you have to know I am talking about them and not someone that is unable to work because of an injury or an illness.

          15. liberalboston June 18, 2013

            Sorry Canistercook you can’t go to Germany or Switerland they have socialized medicine and give out a lot more social aid then we do in the US.
            I would think you may be better off in China or another third world country.
            The US is just catching up with the rest of the world by giving health care to it’s citizens.

          16. Canistercook June 18, 2013

            Having lived for a while in Germany I know about their health care. It costs about half of what ours does, the able bodied work and pay into it. Ours has become just a big give away to big drug companies, big insurance companies, big medical groups and lazy often obese non workers and is a heavy burden on the working taxpayers. Germany has a sensible inclusive insurance system, we have an expensive boondoggle that will continue to reduce our standard of living.
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          17. liberalboston June 18, 2013

            If you lived in Germany you also noticed that they pay more in taxes then we do. You can’t have your cake and eat it.
            Agreed start taxing big drug makers and big insurance companies more. I don’t love all of the Obama health care plan but let’s face it something had to change. Why should I be denied health care if I have a pre existing condition. And why should they be able to drop me because they feel they have paid out to much.
            I have never taken anything from the system, I pay my share I just want some safety nets in place.

          18. Canistercook June 19, 2013

            You hAve been brainwashed to think that. They hAve no state taxes only federal and not as much tax on things like telephone etc. Without looking at the total picture it is impossible to make ANY comparison of if they do or they don’t .
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          19. Canistercook June 19, 2013

            I could agree with some of your comments but also wonder why I should be taxed by the greedy who are eating and smoking themselves to death. 47 percent obese!
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          20. smilee June 26, 2013

            Their taxes are higher but no out of pocket medical expenses or health care premiums, copays and deductibles and the health care they provide is at 50% less cost than of ours and we now pay about 50% of our medical costs through taxes and it covers less than half of the total cost of health care. Add up the premiums, copays, deductibles and 1/2 of our taxes spent on health care and subtract that from our total taxes and they pay less over all. It is they that have the bargain not us. Like Mayo Clinic said Obamacare is a great first step but it does not do the complete job but will improve things as Massachusetts has found out.

          21. liberalboston June 28, 2013

            Smilee all I know is Obama care may not be the best but things had to change. It works in MA because you have so many great teaching hospitals I have 6 Hospitals within 4 miles.so it works.

          22. smilee June 26, 2013

            As do most all other countries and often better outcomes as well but then they focus on health care and not profits as their priority.

          23. Canistercook June 26, 2013

            U.k. Provides healthcare at around 70 percent of cost in u.s. And includes glasses, hearing aides etc. Obamacare was a great gift to our health care industry and especially the big insurance and drug companies. Tax the worker and pay it to us. They love it!
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          24. smilee June 26, 2013

            Your so funny, Union members make on average $800 a month more that non union and few are because of it eligible for these welfare programs and the lions share of those receiving welfare live in red states (the right to work states, thus lower wages) which all voted republican, so either these people voted for conservatives and if not an awful lot of their neighbors did. EX: Minnesota gets back $.70 for each dollar it sends to DC whom voted democrat and Texas whom gets back $1.30 for each dollar they send to DC whom voted republican so your BS does not wash with the facts. Wages are lower in Texas that is why and more welfare recipients (by percentage) than MN. i THINK YOU IS CONFUSED AND ALL MIXED UP.

          25. Canistercook June 26, 2013

            you are Right, that is why the taxpayer had to bail out general motors and we now buy our steel and shoes from china and wonder why we have so many on unemployment and welfare and need to tax the ‘rich’ to support over paid over pensioned government employees. Nit only did Rome burn while Nero fiddled!
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          26. smilee June 26, 2013

            That 70%+ do not even try to vote, your saying so sure does not make it so

          27. ObozoMustGo June 26, 2013

            smilee… you are young and dumb. The 70% figure that I cite is well documented. In the 2012 election, Obozo won 70% of the hispanic vote. Plain and simple. And it’s remained predominantly true that vast majorities of hispanics every year vote for the party of free goodies and handouts… the DemonRAT party.

            I would give you my house if I was wrong, but I’m not. If hispanics overwhelmingly voted Republican, the DemonRATS would have already had buses lined up in every city to drive them to the border and deport them. You can take that to the bank!!!

            Have a nice day!

            “If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner.” – H.L. Mencken

          28. smilee June 26, 2013

            Here is what you said about the 70%: “They are all LIARS. One and all if they cannot admit that the only reason they support open voting without proof of ID or citizenship is because they know 70%+ of the illegals are DemonRATS. The rest of their excuses are false arguments”.

            The 70% of Hispanics that voted for him were citizens you statement was about the illegals you were talking about in you first post that I responded to then you changed it to the 70% that vote for him legally. So I guess you owe me your house or is that your daddy’s house your talking about as I cannot tell if you are old enough to own one your self. At least you act that immature.

          29. ObozoMustGo June 27, 2013

            Smilee… you cannot be that stupid at 72 ys of age. 70% of the hispanic population supports DemonRATS. That’s the way it is. Their status as illegal alien or legal alien or citizen is NOT the issue. This is the reason the DemonRATS despise voter ID and support open borders with amnesty for illegal aliens. There is no other reason for it. Without considering the electoral effects, there is NO reason an American politician would support something so stupid and dangerous to American culture and a slap in the face to those coming here legally. The only reason the DemonRATS support illegal aliens getting amnesty is for their nearly monolithic voting patterns in favor of the party that gives away goodies… the DemonRAT party.

            Face the facts, smilee. Tell the truth. I know it’s hard for leftist to tell the truth, but just admit it.

            Have a nice day!

            “Demagogue: one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.” – H.L. Mencken

          30. smilee June 27, 2013

            Here is what you said about the 70%: “They are all LIARS. One and all if they cannot admit that the only reason they support open voting without proof of ID or citizenship is because they know 70%+ of the illegals are DemonRATS. The rest of their excuses are false arguments”. 70% of Hispanics did vote for Obama and I never said different but they were all legal citizens and you were talking about illegals whom did not vote no matter how hard you would wish they did so that definitely does make a difference and is the issue. And your analysis is not supported by facts no matter what you say so it is you whom are being the stupid one who knows nothing about the truth or seem to care about it either.

          31. ObozoMustGo July 1, 2013

            you continue to ignore the facts and attempt to obfuscate the real issue. That is:

            The TRUTH is that DemonRATS want amnesty for illegal aliens because they believe that 70% plus of the illegals will vote for DemonRATS once they are made legal. That is the TRUTH!

            If the illegal aliens were known to be conservative and projected to be monolithically supportive of Republicans, the DemonRATS would make certain that amnesty and immigration bills would NEVER see the light of day. This is the truth. you just seem to be attempting to avoid saying it.

            Go back to your crack pipe now, Smilee.

            Have a nice high!

            “If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner.” – H.L. Mencken

          32. smilee July 1, 2013

            I did not ignore any fact, you said 70% of the illegals voted for Obama in 12 when in fact none did, Now you say when they become legal in the future 70% will vote for democrats, an assumption on your part but could be a reasonable one given that republicans refuse to treat them as part of “WE THE PEOPLE” once they become citizens. Amnesty would mean immediate citizenship but those that want citizenship will have to wait 13 years pay fines, taxes etc and a number of other things in order to become a citizen, that is not amnesty. Amnesty is defined as ” An act of the sovereign power granting oblivion, or a general pardon, for a past offense, as to subjects concerned in an insurrection.a period during which offenders are exempt from punishment” SEE THE DIFFERENCE NOW!! What you claim as truth is nothing more than your assumptions, which are all false. You talk a lot about drugs is that your problem????? I have never tried them, another stupid assumption on your part.

          33. ObozoMustGo July 1, 2013

            I said 70% HISPANICS voted DemonRAT. Therefore, since 99+% of the illegal aliens are hispanic, it is correct to say that they will likely vote in at least similar proportions, if not more, for DemonRATS. Face the facts: The knowledge of such support is the only reason the DemonRATS support amnesty.

            BTW… the definition of amnesty does NOT have a timeline associated with it. 13 years or 1, it’s still amnesty because it rewards law breakers with the very prize they sought in breaking the law in the first place. That is, citizenship. Further, the bill itself relies upon bureaucrats to oversee, whom have authority to wave and change just about every aspect of the bill. Which means there really isn’t any “teeth” to it at all. But, we don’t have to go into the weeds of the bill to know that granting anmesty to illegal aliens is nothing more than a DemonRAT strategy to get more voters. It’s that simple. For you to suggest otherwise is a bald-faced lie, and you know it.

            You, a leftist freak DemonRAT not use drugs? Yeah, right. Sure, sure. Did I tell you I’m a bridge salesman? I have many prime bridges for sale at low prices. Let me know which you are interested in and I’ll send you a bill for your purchase.

            Have a nice day!

            “Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example.” ― Mark Twain, Pudd’nhead Wilson

          34. smilee July 1, 2013

            Non citizens do not get to vote and that is whom you where talking about originally and when you get pinned down on that you go off on a tangent and you have no idea what the meaning of amnesty is or know the reality of anything else either for that matter. Throwing BS over it does not change what is under it despite what you want us to believe.

          35. ObozoMustGo July 1, 2013

            Smiles… you are an idiot. A complete idiot. You keep sticking on whether or not illegal aliens can vote or not, when that has nothing to do with the point of my original post.

            TRUTH: DemonRATS want illegal aliens to get amnesty because they believe illegals will overwhelmingly become DemonRAT voters. Electoral results are prologue to this belief that DemonRATS are basing their desires for amnesty on.

            That is the point. Deny it all you want. That is the truth.

            How does a slack jawed moron like you make it through a day without wandering out into traffic? I don’t know. Now go wipe that drool from your chin. And stay away from busy roads.

            Have a nice day, moron, and remain obilivious!

            “The difference between being stupid and being a fool: A stupid person at least has an idea about their own inadequacies. The fool is oblivious to them, and is more inclined to believe their own fantasies and lies as truth.” – ObozoMustGo

          36. smilee July 2, 2013

            YOUR WORDS EAT THEM!!!!!! Funny how the leftist freaks take the most rare of rare of the rarist of possibilities and hold it out as a reason that the rest of us AMERICAN CITIZENS have to take a bake seat to the illegals. They are all LIARS. One and all if they cannot admit that the only reason they support open voting without proof of ID or citizenship is because they know 70%+ of the illegals are DemonRATS. The rest of their excuses are false arguments.
            MY WORDS:
            “70+% of the illegals are democrats” and illegals do not vote so your attempting to make a mountain out of a mole hill. Your stupid statement is irrelevant to anything factual. Even if they were given amnesty and they are not they would not be citizens and still could not vote and if they decide to become citizens the earliest would be in 13 years do all the noise your making is all about nothing important but stupid people never say anything important

          37. ObozoMustGo July 7, 2013

            Hey moron…. how will illegals vote when they become legal? In what proportion will they vote DemonRAT or Republican? Hmmmmmmm….. let’s take a guess…. yes, that’s right. They will vote about 70% for DemonRATS. This is the ONLY reason the DemonRATS want anmesty. If it were the other way around, they’d be screaming from the rooftops about how unfair amnesty is to American workers. You know it. I know it. Everyone knows it. That is a FACT!

            Have a nice day!

            “Don’t let schooling interfere with your education.” – Mark Twain

          38. smilee July 7, 2013

            Hey Stupid, How any legal person votes is none of yours or my business so it is irrelevant to this discussion, the senate bill was supported by many republicans and does not give amnesty. Your facts are really nothing but fiction

          39. ObozoMustGo July 7, 2013

            Hey moron… how people of differing segments of society vote is EVERYONES’ business, you dope! It’s called polling and how those segments vote has always been of interest to news and political organizations for decades. Only an idiot like you would make such a stupid statement.

            I stand by my assertion that the only reason that the DemonRATS support amnesty is because they know they will have huge majorities of new voters supporting their socialist ideas and policies. If it was highly likely that the illegals would become Republicans, the DemonRATS would be freaking out.

            BTW… like I said, it IS amnesty, even if delayed. Amnesty defined is the granting of reward to a law breaker of that which the lawbreaker sought in the first place by breaking the law. For dummies like you, that translates into rewarding an illegal alien with legal status insteal of punishing them for breaking the law. Time is not important in this definition.

            Have a nice day, idiot!

            “Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example.” ― Mark Twain, Pudd’nhead Wilson

          40. smilee July 7, 2013

            WOW!! Your even dumber than I first thought, how I VOTE IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS, sure the total outcome is of interest but that does not make my vote or anyone else’s vote your business. The rest of your post is simply your opinion and not supported by fact. For example this senate bill does not bestow citizenship on anyone it does define how they can be come citizens if they so chose and that will take a minimum of 13 years, Amnesty would be granting citizenship on them now without any requirements to complete first. You got my vote for the worlds most ignorant person!!

          41. ObozoMustGo July 7, 2013

            Not at all, fool. Amnesty is the forgiveness for an illegal act. The wiping out of the crime of entering America illegally IS the amnesty. The granting of citizenship, regardless of time, and by the way, according to that disaster Senate bill, the amount of time can be altered by bureacrats in the Executive branch, which I guarantee you will happen. Further, for employers hiring the formerly illegal aliens, they are not subject to the demands of Obozo care as the illegals apply to their overall total full time employee count. In otherwords, to avoid Obzocare mandates, an employer can simply fire Americans and hire former illegals that have been matriculated into legal status by that disaster of a bill.

            Now the bill is NOT the point of this discussion. I know you don’t like truth, but it is what it is. The ONLY reason the DemonRATS like amesty is because it is logical to conclude that 70% of them will vote DemonRAT. If it was the other way around, I guarantee you that the DemonRATS would be against it. Want proof? Why not grant amnesty and citizenship to Asian entrepreneurs (Indian, Chinese, whatever) who come to the US? Hmmmmmm…. let’s see….. maybe because anyone that comes here with the idea that they can be self sufficient and build something for themselves will overwhelmingly vote Republican. But such a bill would NEVER even be thought of, now would it.

            As to your individual vote…. no one need guess. We all know that you’re a useful idiot and vote for socialists and Marxists like Obozo. But the point wasn’t YOUR vote personally, you dope. It was about polling and demographics. If you cannot understand that, you’re dumber than I thought.

            Go back to your crack pipe now, moron. And for Pete’s sake, wipe that drool from your chin.

            Have a nice day, you slack jawed moron!

            “If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.” ― George Orwell

          42. smilee July 7, 2013

            Your dumber than a box of rocks and a waste of time, good bye

          43. ObozoMustGo July 8, 2013

            Smilee…. It is obvious that you suffer from delusions of adequacy. You are not very smart, despite your misguided belief in your intellect.

            Have a nice day, and remain oblivious!

            “The difference between being stupid and being a fool: A stupid person at least has an idea about their own inadequacies. The fool is oblivious to them, and is more inclined to believe their own fantasies and lies as truth.” – ObozoMustGo

    2. stcroixcarp June 17, 2013

      Dear Tax Payer …You are not only confused but confusing. Maybe you can show up in my next lifetime and explain things to me. In the meantime, go back to school and study the structure of the English language.

      1. tax payer June 17, 2013

        You are here because you weren’t swallowed. How’s that?

    3. smilee June 26, 2013

      You have to sign saying you are a citizen and if later you are found not to be a citizen you can go to jail for years as it is a felony. Very few take that risk and if illegal it would ruin any chances of becoming a citizen ever. Rarely do non citizens vote or even try to.

      1. tax payer June 26, 2013

        The vote will still count, so one vote can mean a difference in an Election.

        1. smilee June 26, 2013

          True but the fraudulent votes are so small in number they have no effect on the outcomes and it is humanly impossible to have a perfect election and our current systems have proven to be as close to perfect as man can design with an occasion exception in a very few places. Laws like the one just stricken down would make it worse a fact you seem to be unable to understand.

          1. tax payer June 26, 2013

            I won’t vote anymore because we vote for these people to be there for us and they do an above face, and forget who put them in office. I won’t vote anymore, if Congress allows the illegals to be able to work here and take the jobs meant for the American people. I am retired, so it won’t affect me, but I care for those that will be left out in the cold. Why vote, if these traitors won’t represent the voters. This country is going to the dogs and it’s not going to improve because it’s already on the downfall. I used to love voting, but now I won’t register anymore and won’t have to be out there wasting my time voting for someone that won’t give us the time of day anymore. Let the voters vote themselves to an early grave because that’s the way it looks to me right now.

  3. FT66 June 17, 2013

    Brilliant decision and very welcoming news. Neither Party should take voting as a privilege and NOT the right? Every eligible voter has to exercise their right to vote without any obstacle placed to them. May be this will force republicans to think hard in coming up with new ideas instead of scandals to sell to people. Contrary to that, the votes will be gone to the opposite Party.

    1. Canistercook June 17, 2013

      Most things you have to prove eligibilty for! I have to show a photo ID to go into Costco!

      1. plc97477 June 17, 2013

        But you have the right to stay out of costco if you want.

        1. Canistercook June 17, 2013

          And you should have the right to vote if you can prove you are a citizen!
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          1. charleo1 June 18, 2013

            Do you think the lawyers arguing for stricter ID requirements,
            may have brought that up? But, your Judgeship. I need to
            produce a photo ID to get in Cosco! Do you think it might have helped prove their case for stronger ID laws, if they had been able to bring in thousands of documented cases of illegal voting? And, why didn’t they? Should have been very simple,
            if voter fraud is so rampant as they claimed. Do you think it hurt their case, when the State Congressman from Pennsylvania was filmed bragging that the new voter laws would deliver the
            State to Mitt Romney? Do you agree the GOP agenda is so
            important that, even if the new requirements were not to
            combat voter fraud, as they claimed. But, were put in place
            to hamper the votes of those most likely to vote for the Democratic Party? That in this instance, you would support
            voter suppression, because you believe the ends more than justify the means?

          2. Canistercook June 18, 2013

            Don’t care who they want to vote for. Just think we should insure that they are entitled to vote. Wonder why democrats don’t want to ensure we have ‘fair’ and ‘legal’ elections? Is that because they support ACORNS voter sign up system!
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          3. charleo1 June 18, 2013

            Maybe you don’t care who people vote for. But, I’ll bet you
            the Republicans who attempted to enact these voter suppression laws cares. Did you ever hear of, if it ain’t broke
            don’t fix it? How about, if it’s so broke, let’s see a little evidence.
            And don’t be such a tool. The GOP isn’t on your side, anyway.
            Unless you’re rich.

          4. Canistercook June 19, 2013

            It is broke when we don’t know how many non eligibles are voting!

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          5. charleo1 June 20, 2013

            Well, maybe it’s broke, and maybe it isn’t. How many of
            these States that were so concerned before the election
            about non-citizens voting, are checking the roles today
            to find out how many illegal votes were cast? My guess
            is, there is no one checking. Heard of any of these non
            eligible voters being under indictment for voter fraud?
            That’s exactly the number of cases they came up with
            before the election. When they claimed it was so wide-
            spread, that in the interest of democracy, something
            had to be done. So, there must be thousands, in a
            population of voters numbering in the tens of millions.
            Incidentally, did you know there were more people that
            claimed to have seen Big Foot, than there were cases
            brought forth as evidence of this proliferate voter fraud.

          6. Canistercook June 21, 2013

            Impossible to check. How do you find the questionable people- they have ‘moved’!
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          7. charleo1 June 21, 2013

            Sure it is. Come on! You really heard somebody in your
            State Government, or Prosecuting Attorney’s office, say
            we checked, but they had all moved?

          8. Canistercook June 23, 2013

            No they were smart enough to realize tha it would waste a lot of time looking for people who have’moved away since the election’
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          9. charleo1 June 23, 2013

            They don’t want to waste their time? And so how do they
            know a crime has been committed? They sure wasted a
            lot of time passing these unConstitutional requirements.
            They sure wasted a lot of the voter’s time standing in line
            because they cut the number of hours the polls were open.
            You know who’s smart? The American public. And they
            insist politicians support democracy. Not try to prevent it.
            And if you believe in it, you shouldn’t let your politics get
            in the way.

          10. Canistercook June 26, 2013

            Dream on while the country falls apart!

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          11. smilee June 26, 2013

            And so then you assume many are, counties prosecute you if you get caught voting illegally and that is a felony with a long jail sentence and you want us to believe many are going to risk that to vote, not many do so it is solution in search of a problem and does not effect outcomes

          12. Canistercook June 26, 2013

            You have to be kidding! Never happen with our jails full of robbers, shooters etc. Nothing happened to those acorn signed up to vote that were not citizens. They couldn’t find them!

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          13. smilee June 26, 2013

            You seem to have a monopoly on silly statements!!!!

          14. Canistercook June 26, 2013

            You outdo me!

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          15. idamag June 20, 2013

            I understood COSCO just looks at your membership card. The key is that they issue membership cards. If the United States is going to require ID, they should issue citizens ID cards. If it wasn’t political, they could be checking registration records right now, instead of during the election. It is political.

          16. charleo1 June 20, 2013

            Sure. I mean, isn’t it kind of no brainer? If half the Republican
            Party could not be convinced The President of these United
            States is a citizen. If, after producing all the proof you, myself
            or anyone else has to prove we are who we say we are. Then,
            it’s absolutely time for a National ID card. But, know what
            these same people will say? That would be too intrusive. To
            register with the government? Not me! I don’t want my gun
            registered, and I don’t want myself registered either. It’s
            more fun I guess to claim the Black President is from Africa.

      2. tax payer June 17, 2013

        I go to stores that don’t charge a fee to buy from them. Why pay because, when you add up the cost of your purchases along with the fee than maybe it’s the same as shopping at a regular store or maybe less.

        1. tax payer June 17, 2013

          I was going to check who gave me the thumb up and ended voting for myself. Oh, well!

        2. Canistercook June 18, 2013

          If you believe that I would not shop at cisco. I like their products and their prices.
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      3. ThomasBonsell June 18, 2013

        Costco is not governed by the United States Constitution, as are state governments, local governments and the US government

        1. Canistercook June 19, 2013

          That is why Costco is efficient and well run.

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          1. ThomasBonsell June 20, 2013

            Somehow I get the impression that this statement is a negative slam of the United States Constitution. Why do you hate it so?

    2. ThomasBonsell June 18, 2013

      Another person who doesn’t realize that our rights come in two forms; privileges and immunities.

      An example of an immunity is religion and it cannot be tampered with by government. Every prisoner in every prison has the right to his/her religion. That is an immunity.

      But prisoners do not have rights to own guns or to vote. Both are privileges.

      See the 14th Amendment.

      1. smilee July 7, 2013

        No No No Prisoners as punishment can be deprived of their rights while under sentence. No other citizen can be deprived of the right to vote and voting is a right not a privilqge

        1. ThomasBonsell July 7, 2013

          How is that so?

          If no one can be deprived of their right to vote, how is that millions of Americans have been do deprived and the GOP is conjuring up more ways daily to eliminate more Americans from voting. And ex-prisoners have lost their “right to vote” for their entire lifetime unless laws allow them to regain it.

          And if voting is a right (ignoring the fact that I already told you that rights come in two forms: privileges and immunities) why is there a proposed constitutional amendment in Congress to label voting a “a right?”

          Your concept of “rights” is not worthy of grade-school logic.

          1. smilee July 7, 2013

            No legal citizen by law can be deprived of their right to vote but that is not to say forces have existed to prevent some from exercising their right. The 15th amendment specifically gave the right to vote to former slaves and many southern states found unconstitutional ways to deny them that right and did so for almost 100 years but they still had per law that right but were denied these rights so in effect I suppose they did not have the right but in constitutional law they did and in 1965 Congress finally did something about it and passed a law to correct the practice but this did not negate the fact that the right existed just not practiced. The Constitution often is not followed since its inception not being the supreme law of the land and that should be the guide.. An amendment would insure what is already thee and that is not new either, it is a clarification amendment and that is sometimes necessary for enforcement purposes or a SC order would accomplish that too but the court now weakened it so that would be a good idea under the present circumstances.

          2. ThomasBonsell July 7, 2013

            What does it take to get through to you?

            Our rights come in two forms; so quit this nonsense of pretending a “right” covers everything and there is nothing more to say about it. Those rights include immunity rights: i.e. everyone has a right to the religion of their choice and government has nothing to say about it. Those rights also include privilege rights; i.e. government has a limited constitutional authority to act. Elections fall under Congress’ power to regulate, and your failure to understand that is immaterial.

            Government had the power to regulate the election/voting process; therefore voting is privilege right, whom you vote for is an immunity right.

            Do some thinking.

          3. smilee July 7, 2013

            No it is a right and government can regulate how that right is delivered but cannot deny it by the Constitution. Right is something that cannot be legally denied a privilege can. It is your whom cannot tell the difference

  4. Germansmith June 17, 2013

    I am still confused about what is the difficulty of presenting a BC, a naturalization document or a passport when registering to vote (basically getting your voter ID card which is now another proof of citizenship?)
    If this is just a hardship for some people, what is the chance these people actually bother to read about the issues and the candidates to actually execute an informed vote ? What are the chances these people are going to spend a few minutes or much more of their day on occasions to actually go to vote?

    1. ObozoMustGo June 17, 2013

      German… you’re missing the point. They don’t have to know what they are doing or even have a clue what the hell the issues are. They just have to know how to get on a DemonRAT bus, follow instructions, and eat free lunches for voting. They are illegal DemonRATS, but hey, they’re DemonRATS and that’s really the only important thing, country be damned! Fact of the matter is that these idiots on the left care more about the illegals than they do about the American citizens.

      Have a nice day!

      “Societies biggest failure is it has allowed authority to be its truth; and prevented truth from being its authority.” — Mobius Nemesis

      1. jakenhyde June 17, 2013

        @Bozo….I’m glad you’re pissed. Have a nice day!

      2. metrognome3830 June 17, 2013

        Okay, OMG, you are such a stickler for specifics (Judge Judy), where are your specifics in re: illegal voters getting on DemonRAT buses and eating free lunches for voting? There are several right wing states i.e., Florida or Arizona that would like to know those specifics, because so far their efforts haven’t shown much results.
        Have a Nice Day, OMG! I mean that specifically.

      3. RobertCHastings June 26, 2013

        Democrats care much more about ALL Americans than the republicans can even comprehend. While it should be apparent to ALL Americans that there are some of our fellow citizens who, through no fault of their own, are unable to adequately meet the financial needs of their families, or frequently even for themselves, some feel it is an added burden on them to provide through a social safety net for their basic needs. Cutting the Food Stamp program to provide funds to cover the expenses of subsidizing wealthy farmers to not grow anything is only one, typical Republican item.
        I enjoy Mobius greatly, too bad you have no idea what he is singing about. He would probably be a spokesperson for the Occupy Movement, if they were to ask him, but all you could do would be to denigrate them. And I am sure if Mobius came out in support of Occupy, you would no longer listen to him.

  5. ObozoMustGo June 17, 2013

    What a stupid decision. On the one hand, all you have to do is check a box stating that you are a citizen under threat of perjury if you lie. On the other hand, the state is NOT allowed to ask you to prove that you are a citizen in order to enforce the consequences of perjury. Soooooo… anyone and everyone, legal or not legal, will be allowed to vote in AZ without consequence, unless someone is accused by another of not being allowed to vote. How stupid can the court be?

    Have a nice day!

    “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.” – H.L. Mencken

    1. jakenhyde June 17, 2013

      @Bozo…..nice pic. Why didn’t you also post a pic of the Aryan Brotherhood and bikers with swastikas tacked all over their necks and bodies? Oh, that’s right. You’re not all that American….just a racial bigot.

      1. ObozoMustGo June 17, 2013

        If they were the illegal immagrants who have broken our laws to come here, I would post their pics as well.

        Have a nice day!

        “Societies biggest failure is it has allowed authority to be its truth; and prevented truth from being its authority.” — Mobius Nemesis

        1. jakenhyde June 17, 2013

          Evidently my point went right over your bigoted head. You obviously were trying to put Chicanos in a bad light by the pic you posted. But a pic of skinheads, bikers, and Aryan Brotherhood types with swastikas tattooed on their bodies along with the pic you posted could have proven that maybe you’re not the racial bigot that you obviously are.

          You didn’t post any proof that the men in your post are illegal immigrants. Or are you that much into racial profiling?

          By the way….it’s spelled “immigrants”. Maybe you didn’t make it far enough in school to get to that word in the dictionary. Then, again, it may simply have been a typo, and I can accept that.

          1. Mikey7a June 17, 2013

            Typo, well ok, but the A and I are typically typed with opposite hands. No, OMG is just a 3rd grade drop out, bigoted, trailer dwelling, TROLL! Oh, “have a nice day OMG”.

          2. idamag June 20, 2013

            It doesn’t look like those people are in line at the polls, either.

        2. Mark Forsyth June 17, 2013

          Are you trying to say that you are only concerned with illegal immigrants who break the law and nobody else?

        3. charleo1 June 18, 2013

          Why not post the pictures of the businesses that illegally
          hired them? Because, they are ones contributing to the
          reelection campaigns of the politicians opposing immigration
          reform. You all are a bunch of lying chicken shit bullies.
          There’s your truth, smart ass!

          1. ObozoMustGo June 18, 2013

            chuckie boy…. you and I don’t disagree on that. I think businesses caught hiring illegals should have been getting huge fines per illegal they hired. We dont need immigration reform. We need the current laws enforced with employer fines jacked waaaaayyy the hell up, and the border completely secured BEFORE anything else can be considered.

            What’s odd with all this talk about legalizing illegal aliens that have broken our laws to come here is that the person completely ignored in the entire conversation is the American CITIZEN. What exactly giving amnesty to millions of illegals going to do for you or me?

            Have a nice day!

            “Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act.” – George Orwell

          2. RobertCHastings June 26, 2013

            Another quote you just totally misunderstand.

        4. RobertCHastings June 26, 2013

          Most of the immigrants who arrived in this country have come illegally, to escape intolerance, hatred, famine, political fear, escaping injustices of all imaginable varieties, including economic injustice. And all you and your friends can do is offer them more of the same. Really says a great deal about your personal values and how your success under the American system has translated.

    2. Canistercook June 17, 2013

      After watching Judge Judy I have decided there are a lot of liars out there. But there is no penalty for lying these days, in fact it is rewarded!

      1. Allan Richardson June 17, 2013

        Lying by members of Congress and members of the right wing media such as Fox can be VERY well rewarded!

        1. Canistercook June 17, 2013

          Guess you have Proof. I only deal in proven facts not innuendos.

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          1. Mark Forsyth June 17, 2013

            Do you deny that Fox News pundits such as Rush and Beck and the others are well compensated?

          2. Canistercook June 17, 2013

            Like all radio and tv personalities I assume the are. What does that prove except bias!
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      2. ObozoMustGo June 17, 2013

        I do not watch Judge Judy. What did she say that was a lie? Be specific please.

        Have a nice day!

        Speaking of liars……………

        “This Administration [the Bush Admin.] also puts forward a false choice between the liberties we cherish and the security we demand. I
        will provide our intelligence and law enforcement agencies with the tools they need to track and take out the terrorists without undermining our Constitution and our freedom.

        “That means no more illegal wire-tapping of American citizens. No more national security letters to spy on citizens who are not suspected of a crime. No more tracking citizens who do nothing more than protest a misguided war. No more ignoring the law when it is inconvenient. That is not who we are. And it is not what is necessary to defeat the terrorists. The FISA court works. The separation of powers works. Our Constitution works. We will again set an example for the world that the law is not subject to the whims of stubborn rulers, and that justice is not arbitrary.

        “This Administration acts like violating civil liberties is the way to enhance our security. It is not.” – Barack Hussein Obozo, August 2007

        1. Canistercook June 17, 2013

          Obviously you have not watched her or it would be obvious to you when she says to so many of the participants ‘I don’t believe you!
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          1. ObozoMustGo June 17, 2013

            Canister… I think you’re misterpreting me as being hostile. I have not watched Judge Judy and I was asking you for specifics. However, I think you’re actually talking about her guests being liars when I thought you were talking about her in the first place.

            Have a nice day!

          2. Canistercook June 17, 2013

            No it is not Judy who lies, but I do think she is a ‘bitch’ but many of the plaintiffs and a lot of the defendants lie their heads off? So much for testifying under ‘oath’. But it’s like small claims court and they seem to ignore it. But she is fun to watch I guess because she is such a ‘bitch’. Am concerned tho that for many integrity is not a high need any more!
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          3. Jim Myers June 17, 2013

            My God, Was that an apology?

    3. metrognome3830 June 17, 2013

      Now you are really swimming upstream OMG. When you start siding with the Arizona legislature, you are hopelessly in the far right wing column. I am deeply disappointed in you for posting that picture. Do you actually believe that the Arizona voting law was written to keep illegal aliens from voting? I doubt that anyone could name any. There were a few legal non-residents who checked the wrong box on a form, but they didn’t try to vote. The Arizona law was just more racism from a backward, right-wing legislature. When they can’t even get Scalia to side with them how much further right can they go?
      Have a nice day, OMG!
      By the way, that racist poster really has nothing to do with the Voter Registration law.

      1. ObozoMustGo June 18, 2013

        Your charges of racism are complete bullsheet and you know it, Metro. The simple, un-politically correct truth is that illegal aliens are from hispanic countries and therefore, shockingly I know, look hispanic. The picture happens to be of a bunch of gang bangers. While it may not have anything to do with the voter registration law, it was the only one I had that refelcted the truth: That DemonRATS want the illegal aliens to be citizens so that they can add 7 to 9 million more votes to their roles. Whether they vote legally in the next election or not isn’t really the main concern, just that they WILL vote at some point. As well, a great many of them will be, or become, a DemonRAT politician’s dream –> A DEPENDENT PERSON, OR FAMILY FOR GENERATIONS! What could be better than millions of new guaranteed votes and millions (not all, Metro) more dependents begging the DemonRATS for their subsistence? That’s DemonRAT panacea, brotha!!!!

        That being said, this is perhaps the worst decision Scalia has ever made. There is NO basis in the Constitution where the Federal Government has authority of state election laws. NONE. The states would NEVER have signed on to a document that allowed the Feds to control their election laws in this manner. NONE. Scalia, like Roberts in Obozocare, is legistlating from the bench, and doing so out of whole cloth.

        One other point… you always seem to think that there isn’t really any voter fraud. You are wrong. There are many examples of it. I happen to think that only a small percentage of it is actually caught. How can precincts have more than 100% of the registered voters vote? That happened in OH and PA and FL this past election. As well, how can one candidate get 100% of the vote in a precinct with 10,000+ registered voters? It’s impossible, Metro. Not a single vote for a different candidate. Not even by accident. Come on, you’re straining on this one, my friend. Voter fraud is rampant and will remain so or get worse because the people in charge of policing it in DemonRAT precincts are the ones perpetrating it or intentionally turning a blind eye to it.

        Have a nice day, Metro! Note that I will be traveling for a few days on business and may not get back to you very soon.

        “Without Freedom of Thought, there can be no such thing as Wisdom; and no such thing as public Liberty, without Freedom of Speech; which is the Right of every Man, as far as by it, he does not hurt or control the Right of another. And this is the only Check it ought to suffer, and the only bounds it ought to know. This sacred Privilege is also essential to free Governments, that the Security of Property, and the Freedom of Speech always go together; and in those wretched Countries where a Man cannot call his Tongue his own, he can scarce call any Thing else his own. Whoever would overthrow the Liberty of a Nation, must begin by subduing the Freeness [sic!] of Speech; a Thing terrible to Public Traitors.” — Ben Franklin

        1. metrognome3830 June 20, 2013

          I believe that you are not a racist, OMG. That why I said I was deeply disappointed with the poster you posted. I have seen it several times before, always posted in anonymous e-mails of a distinctly racist nature. Yes, illegal aliens are from Hispanic countries. They are also from countries like Ireland, England, Scotland and many other European and Scandinavian countries and others as well. But I guess it’s not too easy to identify illegal white Europeans and Scandinavians for a photo, is it? Hispanics are easy. Even so, how would you know the people in the photo are illegals? Unless, of course, like Sheriff Joe (dumbest sheriff in the west) you just scoop them all up and let somebody else sort out legal residents from illegal. See, Joe has the same problem. He can’t immediately determine if an Irishman walking down the street or driving an old beat-up car is an illegal alien. If they have darker skin it makes it easier. So he just goes after Hispanic people. Unfortunately for him, lots of them are legal and many times life-long residents of Arizona — sometimes their ancestors were here long before Joe’s ancestors were. Joe has even arrested and detained for hours, a member of the city government — along with many legal residents. Sorry pal, that poster is definitely racist in nature and in origin. Sheriff Joe, on the other hand is a Republican legislature’s dream. With his input, they put together the Arizona voter registration act which resulted in preventing over 30,000 legal residents from voting. And unfortunately for those clever Arizona Republicans, it included a number of Republican voters as well as Democratic voters. In almost equal numbers, in fact. They are probably going to want to fine tune it anyway. I’m sure they never intended to keep Republicans from voting. By the way, I didn’t say that a couple of people voted illegally. I said when they were filling out forms for legal residency, not citizenship, the checked the wrong box where it asked if they were registering to vote. They were never registered to vote nor did they attempt to vote. All this hell-raising about illegal aliens voting is simply more Republican hyperbole to accomplish exactly what they almost accomplished. Preventing legal Democrat residents from voting. Unfortunately they caught Republicans as well. OOOPS! Let’s see how we can correct that!
          You don’t live in Arizona, OMG. If you did, you would know better than to try to tell any Independent or Democrat that this Arizona legislature is in any way capable of writing any kind of fair and just law. This is perhaps the reddest state in the union. Fair and just laws are not on their agenda. It’s not just the sun that makes their necks red here. These guys are born with red necks. We have Jeff Flake and Trent Franks in Washington trying to out-stupid Todd Akin. John McCain occasionally wakes up and tries to play the token moderate, but then he dozes off again. Or has a brain fart and gets turned around and lost again. You do not want to side with an Arizona Republican, OMG. Or you will end up racist, you will end up on the far, far right and you will lose 50 points off your IQ. Minimum!
          As for those states who have more than 100% of the registered voters vote? I would guess that answer does not lie in the theory that illegal aliens are voting. In fact, I have heard very, very few people even suggest that. Or in your terminology, “vast numbers of people have not suggested that.”
          Have a nice trip, OMG!

          1. ObozoMustGo June 20, 2013

            Metro… when you are a hammer, you tend to see everything as a nail. What I mean by that is that anyone who is predisposed to the position that everything is racist will see racism in everything. As well, when Irishmen start swimming across the Atlantic in great numbers invading our country, I’ll say that focus on them will be required. But the cold hard truth is, Metro, that the overwhelming majority, perhaps 99+% that have broken our laws to come here illegally ARE of hispanic background. Therefore, if 1000 illegals are caught and imprisoned, I would doubt seriously there would be more than 1 who are non-hispanic. Most of those that are here illegally that are not hispanic have come here in either student or work visas and overstayed their allowable period of time. Frighteningly enough, there at least 15,000 of those so-called students that are actually Saudi nationals that came here for school and never showed up to the school they were accepted into. Why are they here and what are they doing? The Saudi teens to early 20 somethings are more dangerous than a million Mexicans picking tomatoes or mowing lawns. The whole point I am making, Metro, is that people who are here by breaking our laws regardless of what they look like should be prosecuted and deported, or processed in some other way, as the law breaking criminals they are. There can be no citizenship reward for someone that broke our laws. Certainly there are cases that require more scrutiny and thought, but in the whole, the laws should be enforced.

            McCain is dead horse and has been for many years. Flake has proven to be a flake with his support for amnesty without any real border control. He’s just another progressive that dressed in conservative clothes to get elected. It will be his only term just like Rubio will be a one termer. Mark my words on that, Metro.

            Gotta run. Have a great day!

            “If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner.” – H.L. Mencken

        2. smilee June 26, 2013

          AMENDMENT XV

          Passed by Congress February 26, 1869. Ratified February 3, 1870.

          Section 1.
          The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude–

          Section 2.
          The Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

          What part of abridged do you not understand and this amendment gave the Congress the right to enact legislation. as it did in 1993 over the states and that is why the court ruled as it did and should have. They got this one right and ALEC is a very big force in AZ republican party and have spent big dollars there and this shot down one of theirs too.

    4. smilee June 26, 2013

      Our Constitution requires the government prove you guilty not you prove you are innocent so you are recommending that be abandoned

      1. ObozoMustGo June 26, 2013

        Smilee… you must be young. You’re talking about apples and oranges. Innocent until proven guilty applies in criminal law, not anywhere else, and certainly not in anything related to state laws surrounding driving, getting fishing licenses, getting on a plane, buying alcohol or tobacco, or any other of the myriad reasons anyone must show a photo ID that the state or government requires. It certainly does not apply to getting a hotel room, renting a car, or any of the other reasons one would be asked to prove age and identity in the private world. So your attemp to equate showing proper ID and citizenship in order to register to vote with criminal court proceedings is a false argument. Typical of a strained mind. They are not in the same category.

        And I do NOT recommend abondoning criminal court proceedings and the burden of proof being on the state. That’s a good thing. Leftist freaks constantly imply ideas in conservative people that are not there and are not true.

        Have a nice day!

        “Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example.” ― Mark Twain, Pudd’nhead Wilson

        1. smilee June 26, 2013

          I’m 72 years young (born 1941). Voter fraud is a felony,that is a criminal case and if you were old enough to understand you might understand that. You appear so young and inexperienced but you may grow out of it and lets hope you do..

          1. ObozoMustGo June 26, 2013

            You see Smilee… I knew you were young! 😉 wink!

            Me… I’ve been around the block long enough to have been a modern liberal back in the early 80’s to one that grew up, learned, and opened my eyes. Now, I am a Classic American Liberal and defender of liberty, which is the antithesis of the progressive liberal that dominates the DemonRAT party today. You’ve just never grown up. Maybe I can help you with that. 😉 wink

            Nice chatting with you Smilee.

            Have a nice day!

            “Bachelors know more about women than married men; if they didn’t they’d be married too.” — H. L. Mencken

          2. smilee June 26, 2013

            Your far to immature to help out an old wise man like myself hope by time you get to be my age assuming you do you will mature some. Actually I was a conservative republican for the first 54 years then independent for about ten then in 2004 I joined the democrats as currently they have the most common sense. Bachelors do now more about women, I know as I have been one for 35 years.

  6. stcroixcarp June 17, 2013

    The SCOTUS did the right thing for once. Thank you honorable ladies and gents.

  7. Canistercook June 17, 2013

    Based on seeing those who lie under oath on ‘Judge Judy’ I do wonder what my vote is worth!

    1. DurdyDawg June 17, 2013

      How do you know they’re lying? Most of the BS cases I’ve seen on that rag was so out of this world that it seemed impossible to me that borderline Neanderthals could have conjured up that much imagination.. then again, maybe it was from the script they were reading from which quickly negates any swearing in or bogus oath taking..

      1. Canistercook June 18, 2013

        Because Judy believes they are lying and I think she is right!

        Sent from my iPad

        1. DurdyDawg June 26, 2013

          Again your not in tune I see.. You must also believe that T.V. “Reality” shows are actually real. Their all scripted and everything pre-arranged..

          1. Canistercook June 26, 2013

            Wonder who really is tuned out!

            Sent from my iPad

  8. RobertCHastings June 17, 2013

    ALEC should be legislated out of existence. They have made the country more violent and the American Dream less accessible than any other group in the country, all at the behest of their conservative sponsors.

    1. smilee June 26, 2013

      ALEC is destroying this country and are only interested in the big corporations (Financed by them).and the very rich and their model laws are drafted to insure that happens, they want to take “We the People” out of the Constitution. They need to loose their non profit educational status and be declared a lobby group which is what they practice and preach under the guise of a non profit organization so they can operate in secrecy. This is a dangerous organization.

      1. RobertCHastings June 26, 2013

        Unfortunately, it looks all too likely that Justice Antonin Scalia is one of their pets. While the Court struck down this one, Justice Kennedy’s writing the brief for the decision invalidating DOMA seemed to ruffle Scalia’s lace panties. I wonder if his boyfriend knows he has been playing with his “things”.

  9. charleo1 June 17, 2013

    Well, look at it on the bright side. Now Republicans will have a perpetual excuse
    as to why they keep losing elections.

    1. Dominick Vila June 18, 2013

      Let’s not forget that what the Supreme Court ruled against was an attempt by Arizona to supersede or expand the National Voter Registration Act (NVRA) drafted and signed by Republicans in 1993. The latter demands only a written declaration by the registrant that he/she is a US citizen. Arizona was not satisfied with the tenets of the NVRA and wanted to demand birth certificates or passports as proof of citizenship instead of just a sworn affidavit.
      What most white supremacists don’t understand, or prefer to ignore, is that most illegal immigrants don’t have the slightest interest in voting. Their goal is to find a job and make a living.

      1. charleo1 June 18, 2013

        Exactly. The new requirements to prove eligibility, were never about
        voter fraud. Unless, we are to believe restricting the number of hours polls were open, creating long lines, and hours of wait time, were also
        about combating ballot box fraud. That fraud was rampant, even
        though, out of tens of millions of people casting ballots, going back
        decades, the States enacting the restrictions were unable to produce even one case of intentional voter fraud. Or, a single instance where
        an undocumented person from anywhere, was ever prosecuted for trying to cast an illegal vote. Now, I suppose a person having not
        personally met an undocumented worker, might talk themselves into
        believing they are voting illegally, all across the Country. But, as you
        say, they are doing what they must to survive. And, that includes
        staying as far away from crossing paths with authorities as possible.
        They would see attempting to vote, as just asking for trouble.

      2. idamag June 20, 2013

        I really doubt that there has been a problem with illegals voting.

        1. Dominick Vila June 20, 2013

          The last thing an illegal immigrant, especially recent arrivals, would do is get close to voting polls or any kind of government institution. They stay as far away from the law, and since many don’t speak English and could care less who is our President, senator, congressman, governor or any other elected official, they are more likely to spend their time planting and picking fruits and veggies than worrying about campaigns and elections.

  10. Sand_Cat June 17, 2013

    The fact that killing any part of the Voting Rights Act has been a conservative dream says everything that ever needed to be said about them.


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