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The Toxic Manosphere Is Souring On Donald Trump -- And Threatens 'Consequences'

One of the biggest reasons President Donald Trump won back the White House in 2024 is starting to fracture.

Some of the “manosphere” influencers who helped deliver young men to Trump—from Sneako and Myron Gaines to Joe Rogan and Theo Von—are openly breaking with the president over the Iran war, immigration raids, the Epstein files, and Trump’s refusal to intervene on behalf of Andrew and Tristan Tate.

The manosphere is a sprawling ecosystem focused on masculinity, entrepreneurship, fitness, gambling, and anti-woke grievance politics. Rather than treating Trump like a politician, the manosphere has portrayed him as the champion of a broader cultural revolt against feminism, academia, the media, and “the establishment.”

And it worked.

In 2020, Joe Biden won 60 percent of voters ages 18 to 29. Four years later, Kamala Harris won just 54 percent, with young men accounting for most of the shift.

These influencers didn’t just preach to existing conservatives; they helped normalize support for Trump among millions of young men who got their news from podcasts and social media rather than traditional media outlets. That’s why their growing disillusionment with Trump matters.

The most immediate flashpoint is the arrest of the Tate brothers on sex crime charges in the United Kingdom. The Trump administration had previously pressured Romanian authorities to allow them to leave Romania while facing criminal charges there.

But now the administration seems to have little interest in publicly defending them, despite their reported ties to Trump’s son, Barron Trump.

The Tate brothers’ attorney, Joseph McBride, responded by threatening political consequences.

“Andrew Tate was a material participant in ensuring President Trump’s victory,” he told Vanity Fair. “And if Trump doesn’t support him, and if the next people who are going to be running for office potentially are just like, yeah, down the river he goes, that young cohort of people will break with the Republican Party in the next election.”

But McBride was even more blunt about it on Instagram.

“AOC will be the next President without the Manosphere and Andrew Tate,” he wrote.

Don’t threaten us with a good time.

And the Tates aren’t the only manosphere personalities turning on Trump.

If you haven’t watched Netflix’s Louis Theroux: Inside the Manosphere, I highly recommend it. The documentary follows several of the most prominent manosphere influencers—Harrison Sullivan (HSTikkyTokky), Nicolas Kenn De Balinthazy (Sneako), Amrou Fudl (Myron Gaines), Justin Waller, and Ed Matthews.

Theroux embeds himself in their world, attending podcasts and livestreams and visiting their homes and public appearances—all while letting them explain their worldview in their own words. It can be uncomfortable viewing, as these self-described alpha males constantly test Theroux, trying to dominate conversations or bait him into arguments while both sides film the encounters for their respective audiences.

The misogyny and antisemitism run thick. It’s disgusting.

But what makes the documentary so effective is that Theroux almost never argues with them. Instead, he asks obvious follow-up questions and lets the contradictions expose themselves.

For example, when Myron Gaines insists that his wealth and status entitle him to multiple wives, Theroux asks his girlfriend how she feels about that arrangement. Gaines immediately starts fumbling, qualifying his position and trying to regain control of the conversation. The swagger evaporates.

Again and again, Theroux reveals that behind the carefully cultivated alpha-male image are deeply insecure performers.

And some of these men were among Trump’s loudest allies.

Sneako campaigned for Trump on social media and later attended Trump’s inauguration.

Justin Waller cultivated close ties to Trump’s orbit, frequently posting from Mar-a-Lago, sharing photos with the Trump family, and boasting in the documentary about dinners at the club as proof of his proximity to power. He’s also business partners with the Tate brothers, who wisely declined to appear in the documentary.

Meanwhile, Myron Gaines, co-host of the hugely influential—and thoroughly repulsive—“Fresh & Fit” podcast, relentlessly promoted Trump to his millions of followers, portraying him as the ideal embodiment of masculinity and opposition to political correctness.

But today, that enthusiasm has dissipated.

Sneako, who boasts in the documentary that he’s been a Trump supporter since 2015, is now calling for Trump’s impeachment.

“Trump should be impeached. I agree,” Sneako recently said. “Trump needs to be kicked out of office right now. It’s been a complete disaster. He’s shown that he’s not equipped for this war.”

He continued, “He doesn’t know what’s going on. He’s senile. He’s lying. He’s just blazing the media, then changing his mind. Begging for money. Wanting troops on the ground. If he’s not impeached, then we are a failure as a country. The majority of Americans want us to lose this war.”

Myron Gaines has similarly blasted Trump’s handling of Iran, calling it “an epic fuckup.”

During a debate with right-wing conspiracy theorist and convicted felon Dinesh D’Souza, Gaines argued, “I think that we’re losing this conflict from multiple different angles. I think we’re losing it diplomatically, I think we’re losing it economically.”

He’s also demanding that Trump intervene on behalf of the Tate brothers.

Theo Von has also voiced frustrations with Trump, as has Andrew Schulz.

Justin Waller, however, remains loyal to Trump. Though his business isn’t politics—it’s selling wealth, status, and access.

This all comes as Joe Rogan has also been distancing himself from Trump over immigration raids, the Epstein Files, Trump’s war in Iran, and even culture war nonsense like the crying over the diverse casting in “The Odyssey.”

None of this makes the manosphere a force for good. These people are the worst of the worst, and they continue to radicalize millions of young men with misogyny, antisemitism, conspiracy theories, and a worldview built on resentment and imagined persecution.

But if the manosphere ditches electoral politics and doesn’t elect any more Donald Trumps, that is a victory in itself.

Markos Moulitsas is founder and editor of the blogging website Daily Kos and author of three books.

Reprinted with permission from Daily Kos

Fox News, Top Right-Wing Podcasters Ignore Max Miller Domestic Abuse

Fox News, Top Right-Wing Podcasters Ignore Max Miller Domestic Abuse

The right-wing media ecosystem has largely buried recent reporting detailing alleged domestic abuse by Rep. Max Miller (R-OH), with Fox News spending just four minutes discussing the story and several popular podcasters ignoring it completely.

On July 28, The New York Times published details of alleged domestic abuse by Miller previously reported by his ex-wife, Emily Moreno, daughter of Sen. Bernie Moreno (R-OH). According to Politico, Miller’s “Republican colleagues have been slow to respond” to the story, with several prominent Ohio Republicans — including gubernatorial nominee Vivek Ramaswamy and Vice President JD Vance — refusing to answer requests for comment from the outlet. On August 3, President Donald Trump described Miller as a “good person,” during a press gathering inside the Oval Office.

One GOP operative, meanwhile, described the situation as “Graham Platner on steroids,” referencing the former Democratic nominee for Senate in Maine who dropped out of his race on July 10 following reports of alleged sexual assault. And on August 2, Sen. Moreno called for Miller to drop out of the race before a looming August 5 deadline to replace him on the ballot before the November midterm elections. Moreno's statement came after Miller made a statement denying the accusations and saying that he would stay in the race.

Fox News has largely ignored the latest reporting, with the network dedicating just four minutes of coverage to the story. That coverage has mostly taken the form of headline reads from news anchors, with just one discussion occurring on The Five in which co-host Greg Gutfeld claimed he “didn't know about that” after co-host Jessica Tarlov brought up the reports about Miller. Newsmax spent eight minutes covering the latest reporting, including several discussions on August 3.

Media Matters also reviewed transcripts of several popular online shows within the right-wing media ecosystem, including The Benny Show, The Joe Rogan Experience, The Megyn Kelly Show, Steve Bannon's War Room, The Ben Shapiro Show, Loomer Unleashed, Tim Pool Daily Show, and Timcast IRL and found that none of them mentioned Miller or reporting about the alleged domestic abuse.

With research contributions from Rob Savilo and Harrison Ray

Reprinted with permission from Media Matters

Kennedy's Promotion Of Unproven Peptides Undermines Science And Public Safety

Kennedy's Promotion Of Unproven Peptides Undermines Science And Public Safety

Journalists are often accused of using the following aphorism to determine the newsworthiness of a story: “Once an accident. Twice a coincidence. Three times? A trend. Go for it!”

Using that habit of mind to drive journalism is a bad idea. People will be misinformed. Using it to drive the practice medicine is worse because people will get hurt.

This past weekend, I read a recent story in The New Yorker about “the seductive world of unapproved peptides,” written by Dhruv Khullar, an outstanding medical journalist. The physician-writer visited several clinics run by board-certified physicians pushing these protein snippets on gullible people looking to heal ailing muscles, improve memory and live longer lives, among other alleged benefits.

The testimonials offered by physicians promoting various peptides defied every standard of medical evidence developed since Founding Father Benjamin Rush gave up bloodletting. Charleston, South Carolina’s Craig Koniver, trained in family medicine, called one peptide used for tissue healing (BPC-157) “supersafe” and said “almost everyone I could think of” will benefit from it. A few paragraphs later, he says, “I’m not a big vaccine guy. A lot of them don’t have the data.”

What’s the data behind BPC-157? There are exactly two clinical trials for that peptide in the federal government’s clinical trials database. One is an early-stage safety trial of unknown scope and status that is taking place in Tijuana. The second is an efficacy study based in Shenzhen, China, which is still recruiting patients. Vaccines, on the other hand, have undergone extensive testing and they’ve gained FDA approval, which means there are reams of data documenting both their safety and efficacy.

Koniver goes on to say “anecdotal data means a lot to me. Two days after a vaccine, someone has a stroke. Two days later they’re dead. … You see enough of that, it makes an impression.”

There’s no shortage among his 1,000 patients, who pay $15,000 a year for the services of his concierge medical practice (it doesn’t take insurance), willing to attest to peptides’ benefits. After all, wait long enough and most tissue tears eventually heal. Koniver (is a Charles Dickens doppelganger now the resident fact-checker at The New Yorker?) has 6,000 people on his waiting list.

Many of the people lining up to spend their hard-earned money on peptides may have heard the siren call of the ultimate peptide guru, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., who sits atop the Health and Human Services Department. He frequently claims he benefited from injecting peptides to cure injuries sustained during body-building exercises.

He appeared earlier this year on the Joe Rogan podcast (the world’s most popular with 11 million listeners). Rogan frequently touts peptides on his show. The field also received an unexpected boost from the FDA’s approval of semaglutide (Ozempic, Wegovy, Zepbound), a peptide for diabetes and weight loss. If that one works, won’t they all?

Semaglutide is the exception, not the rule when it comes to data on peptides. There is almost no evidence beyond individual anecdotes that most of the peptides now in circulation, mostly produced by compounding pharmacies, actually benefit patients or are safe.

Earlier this year, Kennedy removed the limited regulation of unapproved peptides that had been put in place during the Biden administration because their manufacturers failed to submit data to the FDA proving they could be safety injected in patients. The Kennedy reversal hurled peptides back into the regulatory vacuum enjoyed by dietary supplements, where the only rules that apply involve purity (does it contain what it claims to contain) and a ban on making medical claims (which is routinely violated by industry advertising).

For a dispassionate dissection of Kennedy’s views on peptides as expressed on the Joe Rogan podcast, watch this YouTube video by Matt Kaeberlein, a professor pathology at the University of Wisconsin Medicine and co-founder of UW’s Health Aging and Longevity Research Institute. “There are numerous cases out there where people have been harmed by peptides … Nobody has come forward with any good data on the safety of these peptides.," says Kaeberlein.

Good data on peptides, whether for efficacy or safety, requires someone conducting randomized clinical trials that test whether the products are better than a placebo or the current standard of care. The tests need to be in a sufficiently large population to show statistical significance in any outcomes differences between the two groups. Absent clinical proof of efficacy in such trials, there will only be the risk of harm or unpleasant side effects.

The Biden administration upheld evidence-based medicine when it required most peptides undergo such tests. The Trump administration via Kennedy opted instead for allowing money-hungry physicians and compounding pharmacies to conduct what amounts to an uncontrolled science experiment on gullible Americans, where no one takes a measure of the outcomes except the individuals and families who will be harmed both physically and financially.

The peptide craze is following the same trajectory of the anti-vaccination movement (also championed by Kennedy); the evisceration of National Institutes of Health research into the many social causes of disease; and the degradation of the Centers of Disease Control and Prevention’s ability to promote population health. It is anti-science, pitch perfect for a society addicted to addictions, promoted by someone who admits he once snorted cocaine off a toilet seat, who now jabs needles in his body in the evidence-free pursuit of faster healing and better health.

Peptide proponents claim it is their right to try unapproved substances based on claims made by family, friends,or their concierge physician. It’s my body. I willingly take the risk. Whom else does it harm?

Actually, everyone. Who pays when you end up in the hospital and wrack up huge treatment bills? Two people fell desperately ill during a Las Vegas “anti-aging” event after injecting peptides and had to be intubated. Widespread allergic reactions to the shots, some of which were life-threatening, forced regulators in Australia to issue a safety alert. Health Canada has issued a warning that unauthorized peptides can cause blood clots and liver and kidney damage.

The U.S. used to have a regulatory agency that the rest of the world awarded a gold medal for how to manage the entry of medical products into the marketplace. Today, under this government, it isn’t even in the race.

Merrill Goozner, the former editor of Modern Healthcare, writes about health care and politics at GoozNews.substack.com, where this column first appeared. Please consider subscribing to support his work.

Reprinted with permission from Gooz News

'Keeps Getting Crazier': Joe Rogan Says Epstein Scandal 'Looks Terrible' For Trump

Prominent podcaster Joe Rogan warned that the handling of the Epstein files “looks terrible” for President Donald Trump and his administration.

“During Tuesday and Thursday’s episodes, Rogan criticized redactions the Department of Justice made from the files,” The Hill reported.“Who knows what f — — happens with all this Epstein files s — —,” he said, according to video of his streaming show. “It just keeps getting crazier and crazier and crazier and deeper and deeper.”

“Why would your name be redacted if you’re not a victim?” Rogan also asked. “Like, this is what’s crazy about all this. Like, how come you redact some people and you don’t redact other people?”

"Like, what is this?" the podcaster continued. "This is not good. None of this is good for this administration. It looks f — — terrible. It looks terrible. It looks terrible for Trump when he was saying that none of this was real. This is all a hoax. This is not a hoax. Like, did you not know?""Maybe he didn't know if you want to be charitable? But this is definitely not a hoax. And if you've got redacted people's names, and these people aren't victims, you're not protecting the victim. So what are you doing?"

"And how come all this s — — is not released?" Rogan asked.

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