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In Health Care Debacle, Trump’s Desperate Quest For Someone To Blame

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In Health Care Debacle, Trump’s Desperate Quest For Someone To Blame


Alas, poor Donald.

Unlike his personal hero Vladimir Putin, President Trump can’t have his political opponents thrown into prison, shot dead in the street, or flung off fourth floor balconies. In Moscow, Russian soldiers could have herded those women in stupid pink hats into stockades like cows. If a few opinionated heifers got roughed up, well, they asked for it, didn’t they?

Instead, Trump was reduced to making excuses for the failure of his farcical Obamacare “reform” by launching impotent attacks against just about everybody in Washington. Because the great man himself couldn’t possibly have bungled his oft-repeated vow to repeal and replace his predecessor’s signal political achievement. Not him.

Because nothing is Donald J. Trump’s fault — ever.

First it was Democrats — specifically excluded from having any input whatsoever into the GOP bill — whom the president tried to blame. His own party refuses even to vote on his brilliant plan and it’s the Democrats’ fault?

Next, he urged his Twitter followers to watch Justice with Judge Jeanine,  a Fox News program hosted by an abrasive New Yorker and longtime Trump pal. Jeanine Pirro obligingly opened her program by urging House Speaker Paul Ryan to resign. For all his “swagger and experience,” she argued, it was all Ryan’s fault that caused “our president in his first 100 days to come out of the box like that.”

That is, to use one of Trump’s favorite insults, as a big loser.

By Sunday morning, White House chief of staff Reince Priebus went on TV claiming it was all a big misunderstanding. Why, the president had no clue what Judge Jeanine would say. Trump, he said “thinks that Paul Ryan is a great Speaker of the House.”

Yeah, right. Sure he does. To Ryan’s face, anyway.  

On NBC’s Meet the Press, Republican Rep. Charlie Dent, a moderate Pennsylvanian of the kind often derided as a RINO (Republican in Name Only) by hardliners, said that Trump had privately accused him of “destroying the Republican Party.”

The “Republican Party,” in this formulation, signifying Trump’s massive ego.

What the big dope appears incapable of understanding is that for Northeastern Republicans in competitive districts, voting for the Trump/Ryan bill would amount to political suicide. With a Quinnipiac poll showing that only 17 percent of voters nationwide favor full repeal, all the threats and promises Trump could muster couldn’t bring Yankee Republicans around.

“Ryan and Trump,” explained veteran GOP operative Rick Wilson, “ran into the political version of advertising’s famous Bad Dog Food Test: you can’t sell bad dog food even with good advertising. The dogs won’t eat it.”

Writing in The Daily Beast, Wilson also blamed “Trump’s character, which is never pretty. Trump’s clumsy I’m-just-joking threats against members of Congress fell utterly flat, as did promises of his favor. His word means nothing and lawmakers know it. In Trump’s long, sordid life no deal, contract, agreement, or vow has ever been sacred and inviolable. Ask his wives, partners, contractors, and clients. He is a man without a single shred of regret at breaking even the most solemn commitments. In Washington, no matter how corrupt it looks from the outside, the only currency in a tough vote is trust.”

Gee, I wish I’d written that.

Then by Sunday morning, roughly 48 hours after the bill’s collapse, Trump finally settled upon more plausible villains. “Democrats are smiling in D.C. that the Freedom Caucus,” he tweeted, “with the help of Club For Growth and Heritage, have saved Planned Parenthood & Ocare!”

To the ideological purists of the House Freedom Caucus, no remaining vestige of Obamacare’s government-subsidized premiums would have been acceptable. Not even the Ryan/Trump bill, which would have stripped health insurance from a mere 24 million Americans. Not mean enough. These birds don’t merely want to return to pre-Obama health care. To them, the Confederate States of America would be a better model.

But see, here’s the thing: Completely unknown to Trump and Ryan—Trump because virtually everything is unknown to him, Ryan because he’s spent the previous seven years indulging in GOP performance art—the Affordable Care Act has greatly changed Americans’ views. Catch phrases like “socialized medicine” no longer frighten people.

By now, almost everybody knows somebody whose life and/or finances were saved by this imperfect law. Like citizens in virtually all functioning democracies, they’ve come to see health care as a right—not a consumer artifact available at a price.

In response to Trump’s petulant threat to let Obamacare “explode,” most agree with the Kansas housewife who told the AP that sure, the law needs adjusting: “But if your roof leaks, you don’t burn down the house to fix it.”

As long as President Obama was there to veto the GOP’s 60 purely theatrical votes to repeal the law, Speaker Ryan didn’t actually need a workable replacement.

You’d think a fellow con man like Trump might have suspected that he never really had one.

Gene Lyons

Gene Lyons is a political columnist and author. Lyons writes a column for the Arkansas Times that is nationally syndicated by United Media. He was previously a general editor at Newsweek as wells an associate editor at Texas Monthly where he won a National Magazine Award in 1980. He contributes to Salon.com and has written for such magazines as Harper's, The New York Times Magazine, The New York Review of Books, Entertainment Weekly, Washington Monthly, The Nation, Esquire, and Slate. A graduate of Rutgers University with a Ph.D. in English from the University of Virginia, Lyons taught at the Universities of Massachusetts, Arkansas and Texas before becoming a full-time writer in 1976. A native of New Jersey, Lyons has lived in Arkansas with his wife Diane since 1972. The Lyons live on a cattle farm near Houston, Ark., with a half-dozen dogs, several cats, three horses, and a growing herd of Fleckvieh Simmental cows. Lyons has written several books including The Higher Illiteracy (University of Arkansas, 1988), Widow's Web (Simon & Schuster, 1993), Fools for Scandal (Franklin Square, 1996) as well as The Hunting Of The President: The 10 Year Campaign to Destroy Bill and Hillary Clinton, which he co-authored with National Memo Editor-in-Chief Joe Conason.

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  1. Dominick Vila March 29, 2017

    Blaming others for his failures, and not admitting he made a mistake, is Trump’s modus operandi. What is truly amazing is that the ACA “repeal and replace” is back on the table, apparently because Trump and Ryan managed to convince Freedom Caucus and Tuesday Group members to support the AHCA plan. The fact that there are so many issues at hand that need attention and resolution, including the Federal government running out of money in March, the Gorsuch confirmation hearings, budget reconciliation, tax reform, investment in infrastructure, an investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 and possible collusion by members of the Trump administration, allegation of money laundering, and so many other issues does not seem to bother Trump or Ryan. For them is it all about slash and burn, and if somebody questions their motives you just tell them to stop shaking their heads, or do what Bill O’Reilly did when he mocked an African American congresswomen for wearing a brown wig. In addition to being incompetent ideologues, they are also emboldened anti-government white supremacists determined to destroy everything in their path, regardless of whether what they are doing is in the best interest of the American people.

    1. Eleanore Whitaker March 29, 2017

      Most of the Senate realizes that appoining a SC nominee is a 30 or 40 year long decision with huge consequences. Since there is a dark shadow over Trump and a Republican attempt to cover up their complicity in the Russian election hacking, NO SC nominee of Trump should be considered. Especially not since yesterday when Trump announced our entire government operation is in the hands of his son-in-law, Jared Kushner to reinvent as he pleases.

      1. TZToronto March 29, 2017

        Agreed. What happens when Trump and his accomplices end up in federal prison? Do their appointments become null and void? Does Gorsuch’s seat on the Court become vacant again? My guess is no, they don’t. The only way to get rid of the mistakes is to repeal them–or impeach them.

        1. Eleanore Whitaker March 29, 2017

          In the US Constitution, Article III, Sec. 3, Trump’s continued assignations with Putin constitute high crimes and misdemeanors because ages ago, Russia was declared hostile to the US due to the invasion of Afghanistan and now more recently hacking into voting data by Putin. However, if Trump or any of the members of his cabinet can be proven to have knowingly colluded with the Russian government to “give aid and comfort,” he can be charged with treason. That nullifies Pence, Trump’s choice for VP and all of his “executive orders.”

          1. Dominick Vila March 29, 2017

            …not to mention the fact that the old Soviet Union had thousands of missiles with nuclear warheads aimed at us, and that Russia currently has a nuclear arsenal capable of destroying the entire USA. I am all for peaceful coexistence, but ignoring real threats, and cooperating with our adversaries is not the way to go. In fact, it is reckless and, in this case, it could be easily interpreted as evidence of treason.

          2. Eleanore Whitaker March 30, 2017

            I’d almost forgotten that Krushchev nearly tried to take the US out from Cuba. The bottom line of this entire Russia hacking is the effect on our future elections which we all know the Republicans will be hot to make great use of AND the resulting weakening of our democracy.

          3. Independent1 March 30, 2017

            And unfortunately, it’s not just the Russians who are working hard to undermine our Democracy, the GOP has been working hard at that for at least the past 8 years or more – doing numerous things in the states and federal government some of which border on treason: like deliberately plotting to sabotage the America economy on Obama’s inauguration night to supposedly keep him from being elected for a 2nd term – and like the GOP trying to usurp the powers of a governor who has just been duly elected by the people by deliberately passing legislation that would rescind some of the new Dem governor’s authority to control even their own corrupt actions – like the GOP did in North Carolina last November. Fortunately, a judge blocked action on the legislation they had enacted.

            If anyone has seen the Rachel Maddow’s show where she exposed the corrupt way the GOP had gone about usurping voting rights in North Carolina by the governor removing all non Republicans from the elections boards across the state, greatly restricting voting places and those who could manage them – I can’t imagine any viewer not coming away with a real sense for what must have taken place in Germany back in the 1930s when Hitler and his Nazi cohorts were working to take over that country.

          4. Eleanore Whitaker March 30, 2017

            NC and VA both got into a lot of hot water for their “version” of gerrymandering and redistricting, their strategy to chop up voting districts so they appear to increase Republican districts and the number of Republican voters.

            You can only imagine what would happen if no one bothered to demand an investigation into the Russian hacking. The GOP would be all over that in a heartbeat to make sure all elections are won by their party.

          5. dpaano April 3, 2017

            Don’t forget, North Korea also has a supposed nuclear warhead, and it’s aimed directly at California and the West Coast…..their president isn’t afraid to use it either! Like 45, he can’t be trusted because he’s also a narcissist!

          6. Dominick Vila April 4, 2017

            North Korea is the most dangerous threat to our security, in part because two unpredictable and unstable leaders are on a collision course. At the moment, the only hope to prevent a nuclear holocaust is China, a country with a vested interest in preventing radiation on their doorsteps, and the probability of a unified Korea, with U.S. troops stationed on its borders.

          7. dpaano April 4, 2017

            There was an article in the LA Times this morning about the upcoming visit of the Chinese leader with Trump. People are afraid that he’s going to piss the Chinese off with his attitude, etc. The Chinese are very professional and will not take kindly to being “dictated” to about the trade agreements, etc. If he angers the Chinese, we can kiss off any help from them when it comes down to North Korea. If he brings up the fact that he thinks China manipulates their currency to cause problems for the U.S., etc., he’s going to not make the interaction very friendly. After all, you see what he did with Merkle when she was here….he basically stared off into space when she was speaking and did not even shake her hand when she asked. I’m afraid this China meeting is NOT going to go well because he has no idea how to deal with foreign dignitaries…..you can’t treat them like you do people you want to do business with…..it’s an entirely different ballgame!

        2. dpaano April 3, 2017

          That would be interesting to see, wouldn’t it? Maybe Ivanka and her hubby would take over! As it stands, 45 has just sent Kushner over to Iran to visit there, which really should have been HIS job to do. I wish he’d get off his fat butt and go over to Afghanistan and see exactly what our military does, but he’s such a fraidy cat, he sends his son-in-law to do what he should be doing! It’s pitiful!

          1. Dominick Vila April 4, 2017

            The way things are going, we might as well abolish the State Department, and let Kushner, an inexperienced real estate businessman run our foreign policy!

          2. dpaano April 4, 2017

            I agree…..why doesn’t 45 get off his lazy butt and go to Iraq himself? Maybe if he actually DID something and visited some of these places, he would see the problems that are occurring in these countries that are causing so many immigrants to leave them and look for a better place to live. Maybe he’d even feel some compassion for their plight (doubtful, but you never know).
            As for the State Department….he’s pretty much already abolished that since he let all the foreign advisors go and has yet to fill the positions. He’s left Tillerson, who is totally unqualified, to deal with foreign affairs with NO one there to advise him of the problems he might encounter and what he needs to watch out for when meeting with leaders of various countries.
            As for Kushner….I agree. Like 45, he’s just as inexperienced when it comes to meeting with foreign dignitaries, although I would trust him to act more professional than 45 in meetings.
            Our entire government is going down the tubes on a daily basis….he’s now done away with several policies for women in the workplace…..ones that President Obama worked hard to put into place. I think his goal is to do away with EVERYTHING that President Obama did even if it was for the good of the country! There MUST be some way to get this guy out of office….I don’t know how much more we can deal with if he keeps gutting bills that President Obama and former presidents put in place to help this nation to prosper! If that’s his plan, we’re in deep kimchee!!!

      2. Independent1 March 30, 2017

        With the House investigation into the Russia manipulation of our election and collusion with Trump, at least it’s nice to see that the Senate is getting involved and that there are now ‘some adults in the room’:

        Senate Russia investigators’ message: We’re the adults here

        Washington (CNN)The leaders of the Senate Russia investigation ticked through numbers, figures, details and procedure for close to 40 minutes Wednesday afternoon, but it all boiled down to one message: After all the drama with the House and GOP Rep. Devin Nunes, the adults are now in charge.

        Senate Intelligence Chairman Richard Burr and Sen. Mark Warner, the top Democrat on the committee, were laughing, smiling and generally
        collegial as they held a joint news conference Wednesday.

        Meanwhile, on the other side of the Capitol, the House investigation is in suspended animation — House Intelligence Chairman Nunes is under fire for meeting with an intelligence source at the White House and subsequently meeting with President Donald Trump the next day. Top HouseDemocrats have called on Nunes to recuse himself from the

        Burr and Warner laid out their plans — 20 witnesses they want to interview, with Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, and former campaign chairman Paul Manafort agreeing to testify — and outlined the seriousness of the probe. “This one is one of the biggest investigations the Hill has seen in my time here,” said Burr, who has served in DC since 1995.

        For more here:


        1. Eleanore Whitaker March 30, 2017

          One of the best books ever written about the U.S. Senate, “The Most Exclusive Club,” by Lewis L. Gould forever changed my mind about the true difference between the House of Reps. and the Senate. The Senate really is far more exclusive a “club” than the House can ever be.

          According to the author, the reason is that the Senate, according to the U.S. Constitution “prescribes” only 2 Senators from each state for a total of 100. The House of Reps. has 435 members.

          It’s easy to see why the Senate is more powerful. There is far more negotiability with 100 Senators than there would ever be with 435 House Reps. The Senators know with only 100 members, their main job is to review House legislation and negotiate when necessary to either pass or reject House bills into law.

          Nunes is a spy. He can’t even make direct eye contact with the media. He is an operative of the man who appointed him: King Rat Ryan. The joke is Ryan thinks by kissing up to Trump, Trump won’t still get rid of him when it suits Trump’s purposes.

  2. FireBaron March 29, 2017

    One thing about egotistical con men like Teflon Donnie – they rarely recognize when they are victims of a con. They are so used to pulling one over on everyone else that they do not believe anyone could ever do the same to them.
    Thus The Man Without A Plan (aka Ryan) was able to convince Teflon Donnie that he actually crafted something in about 7 days that replaces a bill that took about 8 months to write, modify, rewrite, etc. Yep. And next week he’s gonna sell Donnie a bridge.

  3. Eleanore Whitaker March 29, 2017

    Trump is not a man. He is an expensive suit that begins with the brain of a spoiled, overindulged Mommy’s boy.

    First of all, Big Insurance has had total monopoly over healthcare and the management thereof. How successful is THEIR management? Yet, the Republican crooks want Americans to believe that anything government run is a failure and cannot possibly produce enough profits for HMO CEOs to receive their annual $10 million bonuses.

    The fact is that privatized healthcare insurance is a morbid failure and Big Insurances uses OUR premiums to lobby against ANY reforms that would make healthcare insurance affordable.

    Now, look what “ELSE” Big Insurance uses our premiums for, besides their obscene theft that feeds their bank accounts tax free offshore: Investments.

    Back in the mid 2000s, Prudential Insurance spent 80% of our premium payments to stuff into offshore foreign investments. By 2008, those investment went belly up and so did our premiums. So what do the pig CEOs of HMOs do? They jack the prices of premiums, copays and deductible to make up for their losses on our premium payment dollars?

    1. pisces63 March 29, 2017

      Thank you. I wonder what they did. I work in the business. 30 years and wondered how so many premiums skyrocketed. BEFORE Obama thought about running. I knew it was CEO driven and the one article of ACA is the mandate 80% of profits go into claims paying pools. they already had to have enough in the pool to cover claims but I never had a figure and they never said here. Getting rid of the mandate would allow them to play footsie with money again like 2007/2008, Enron, before. HMOS were the biggest scams on the planet. Some were wonderful. MOST, UH NO!!
      Another example of how employers try to blame the government for changes. In 1993, I had major surgery. We had a benefit called short term and long term care. My surgery fell under short term. Under our plan, I was out 6 weeks with full pay, not using any of my vacation or sick time. In 1993 Clinton passed FLMA. It was meant for those parents with sick children, or my husband when I had surgery, parents who adopt. They could use their time without fear of losing their job up to so many days. Once they used up their paid time off, they could remain off, without pay up to 180 days total, I believe. Didn’t look it up.
      Since 1994, we no longer have Short/Long Term. It is now FLMA. People cannot afford surgery, have to really plan for child birth, cancer treatment which was under long term care at 6 months + at a graduated salary from 100% to 2/3 but you were paid. Now, whose fault is that Clinton’s Like loss of insurance is blamed on Obama? NO!! Greedy CEOS!!

    2. TZToronto March 29, 2017

      Well, duh! Not surprising. After all, “Greed is good.”

      1. Eleanore Whitaker March 29, 2017

        TZ, Greed may be good, but it often emanates from illegal actions. Right now, the Republican Party is doing its level best to stop all further investigations. They believe it is “wrong” for Americans to worry about future elections not being open, fair or honest. So you can see why Trump being president has aired more corporate dirty laundry than at any time in the past 30 years.

        The reality is that Republicans believe all they have to do is tell is what they think we “need to know” and we must blindly just accept it all. No thinking, reasoning human being just accepts everything they are told out of hand.

        You can see where the TrumpCare Debacle went wrong. There are Americans who for the first time were finally able to pay for healthcare insurance. Yes. There were kinks. But the privatized healthcare was built upon “kinks” they knew earned them obscene profits.

        The reality of healthcare in any country is what happens when a contagious disease, like polio, strikes thousands of young children. No adult with any sense of decency would allow a contagious disease to run rampant and cause children to die. That’s where Big Insurance for profit gets it wrong every time.

        1. idamag March 29, 2017

          I think Bannon may want to be the dictator of this country and trump is his stupid in via dictatorship.

          1. Eleanore Whitaker March 29, 2017

            If his Trump Organization is any clue, Trump wants all the absolute power with none of the actual dirty work. In other words a figurehead. What happens when CEO does this is that his subordinates find a huge amount of “wiggle room” to exert “their” power over their subordinates. Lord help the subordinates at the bottom of that cesspool. They are about as useful as Kleenex disposable tissues.

            Bannon has already planned on the “how to” of what he saId was “Destroying the administrative state.” If this guy isn’t dangerous to our government, why not just hand it to Putin?

            Look at what Bannon “really” means when he says Trump will destroy the administrative state. He really means that while Mr. Figurehead is busy playing golf and tending to hugely profitable business deals that will be tax free for him and his Grifter family, Bannon will tend to the business of getting rid of the FBI, CIA, EPA, IRS and all other “administrative departments of government he considers “the administrative state.”

            What will remain is a small, highly secretive, Bannon operative that would have such vast autonomous power over law and the courts and by association tax dollars we all pay.

            Then, you have morons of the right asking why we want Trump and his Grifter Gaggle gone?

        2. BOC March 29, 2017


      2. BOC March 29, 2017

        Luke 12:15-21(KJV).

      3. Independent1 March 30, 2017

        Yeah! Good for the pocketbooks of the already wealthy while bad for the lives of everyone else.

    3. Dominick Vila March 29, 2017

      One of the most bizarre claims is to blame the ACA for rising insurance premiums. I remember the corporation I worked for raising employee healthcare contributions 50 years ago because insurance premiums were skyrocketing! Like most government programs, some changes are warranted, but replacing the ACA with the system we had before it became law is nothing short of criminal.

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      2. dpaano March 30, 2017

        I have employer-paid insurance, and it goes up about 1-2% each year. I chalk it up to inflation, but it’s better than nothing!

        1. Nativegrammy March 31, 2017

          Boy Howdy could I go on and on about Health Ins…..having been in the insurance industry for over 50 years as well as my husband!
          Health insurance premiums go up and have gone up every year forever! I don’t understand why people do no get that, is as if when the ACA passed Republicans decry in their faux outrage that ANY increase is proof the ACA is not working and the ignorant Trumpsters buy that swill as well. The ACA has cut those yearly increases in premiums substantially which were as we remember spiraling out of control and covering less and less as well as the ACA providing incredibly important coverages, no more pre-existing conditions exclusions, no more life time limits, etc…. If Paul Ryan had his way along with the “Freedom Caucus”, health insurance would cover absolutely nothing and cost average and poor people everything, and wouldn’t the insurance industry just love that….no risk, all financial gain! Hells Bells, the “Freedom Caucus” 10 point wish list to eliminate was a hoot, everything these creatures were hoping for was literally the definition of what health insurance IS for, and even that wasn’t extreme enough for them!!! As I have said a few times here on TNM, by the time my husband reached 65 his employer provided health insurance for he and I was costing over $24,000. a year for two relatively healthy people, the company paid $500 towards that premium and we had to fork over the balance and on his 65th B-Day it was going to an additional $400.00 per mo immediately with another increase during open enrollment that Nov/Dec. The health care system in this country is as shameful an entity that has ever existed and that is what Republicans want desperately take us back to, especially Paul Ryan and Sec. Price, two of the most dishonest, selfishly ignorant men on the planet so wedded to their contemptible ideology as to be blind to the lives that sick ideology destroys! And, Ryan has not given up since his giddy goal is to destroy Medicaid, coverage for the old who are utterly incapable of caring for themselves, the mentally challenged, children and the working poor. Completely unacceptable in the richest country in the world!!! Now I have to get off my soap box, this is a subject that really lights a fire under my tuckus! I guess we can count ourselves lucky that we had or have employer provided Health insurance, however if we go back to the old system, I bet more and more employers will simply stop providing it and give employees a small benefit to go out and find their own insurance, and that would be fatal for most Americans…..

  4. FT66 March 29, 2017

    It is better for Trump to raise his hands up and forget about his crazy talk of “repeal and replace”. Replacing ACA with AHCA is laughable. I can’t see what he has to do to raise the approval of AHCA from 17% upwards. People don’t like it and he can’t force them to take what they are not eager to have. If he is wise, he shouldn’t dare to take that path again, as the price to pay is very dire. Mid-term election is not far, it is only next year, without forgetting his own Approval Ratings that may go down even further.

    1. BOC March 29, 2017

      Why are you surprised at his actions on health care; it’s equivalent to his ‘Build-that-Wall’ initiative. Check back with me when he tanks in the 20 percentile.

    2. dpaano March 30, 2017

      It his approval rating gets any lower, he’ll have to dig a hole to reach it!!

  5. Aaron_of_Portsmouth March 29, 2017

    Being self-centered and a narcissist is a full-time job, 24/7.
    Even when asleep, the paranoid influences causes one’s dreams to conjure up images of scapegoats and enemies. Imagine the torment McCarthy, Hitler, and Ivan the Terrible had to endure.

    1. BOC March 29, 2017

      Being self-centered and a narcissist is a full-time illness, 24/7. This was one of the main reasons I suggested a psych test be required of the final candidates.

      Even when using the toilet early in the morning, “twitter-time”. Those paranoid influences, coupled with nightmare/dreams, to conjure up conspiracy theories that he claims are real, so that he an use them as scapegoat fodder and convince his ‘off-the-grid’ followers, there are real enemies.

      1. dpaano March 30, 2017

        IN reality, he’s the real enemy of this nation!

  6. idamag March 29, 2017

    This is how democracy works: There is a vote. The majority wins. Attempting to bully a person, or a group of persons, into voting as you or your group wants, is not a democracy. Attempting to sway them with facts (key word = facts) is a viable way to argue a point. Calling them RINOs, accusing them of things, is bullying. Yesterday, some friends of mine and myself were discussing the supreme court thing and why doesn’t the Democrats file suit for the republicans violating the Constitution by refusing to consider Garland. A guy at a neighboring table came over and started defending the republicans. I told lardass that I didn’t like him and that the republicans were destroying democracy. He further showed his ignorance by saying the United States is not a democracy, it is a republic because it says so in the pledge of allegiance. When I tried to explain to him why it was both, he started to outshout me. I told him to go away. I did not like him and had no use for crotch grabbers. He walked away still saying it was not a democracy. He was rude to interject himself into our conversation. But then, he was a lardass republican.

    1. pmbalele March 29, 2017

      I wrote Trump to trust me and not those Repubs and TPs in Congress such as Paul Ryan, McConnell, Ted Cruz, ex-governor Sanford etc. These hate Trump.Trump should not to be bothered with repealing Obamacare. Instead he should focus on expanding Obamacare to insure all Americans. Those polls reflect people were angry Trump ever tried to repeal Obamacare. I gave you my suggestion to expand Obamacare. We should ask Congress to pass increase of .001 sales taxes. That will be enough to fund Obamacare expansion. There will be no out of pocket premium payments for that tax will cover everybody in this Country. People will deal with their doctors directly instead of haggling with insurance companies every time they are sick. I hope Trump will listen to me. After all I am older than him.

      1. dpaano March 30, 2017

        Doubtful…..45 only listens to Bannon, Miller, and the rest of his billionaire cronies…..none of whom are qualified for the positions they supposedly fill! He doesn’t listen to anyone else, trust me on that! He’s lazy, and he’s pushed all his work on others and then blames them when it goes wrong!

        1. pmbalele March 30, 2017

          Well, Trump has hired his daughter Ivanka as consultant. So all those white males will be side-lined. I cannot wait to see them fight Ivanka who will not let them see Trump as they wish. Ivanka will fire them if they are with her. After all she thinks is president.

          1. dpaano April 3, 2017

            I want to see her face off with Bannon…..that should be a good one!!! I’d pay to see that fight!

  7. ORAXX March 29, 2017

    The AHCA was more a declaration of moral bankruptcy than it was a healthcare plan. I doubt Trump had any real idea what it even contained. A civilized country does not view being poor and sick as a death penalty offense. At least a few Republicans had enough humanity left to recognize just what it was they were being asked to support.

    1. BOC March 29, 2017

      the fat that Paul Ryan is running point on this bill should have been a ‘red flag’ to all Americans. Every body knows he’s like ‘poison-Ivy,’ stay-away.

    2. BOC March 29, 2017

      The fact that Paul Ryan is running point on this bill should have been a ‘red flag’ to all Americans. Every body knows he’s like ‘poison-Ivy,’ stay-away.

    3. dpaano March 30, 2017

      I agree…..45 had NO idea what was in Ryan’s plan because he failed to actually take time and READ it! He hates reading anything and just does what his handlers tell him to do! I think if he had taken the time to read the plan, he would have voted no on it himself! This was NOT what he promised his followers, and to anger them in such a way would NOT have been good for him OR other Republicans! His main problem is that he did nothing to work with Congress on the plan….leaving it, instead, to Ryan, who had NO idea what he was doing from Day One! But, of course, 45 doesn’t take the blame for anything…..he fails to realize that the buck stops at his desk now that he’s the president! So, he blames everyone else that he can to take the onus away from him, which is where it should have been to begin with!

  8. Joan March 29, 2017

    Prior to his Presidency Trump’s profits largely came from branding deals; he sold his name. Only plan necessary was the get out of town ahead of the bill collectors and citizen’s with pitchfork variety. His jet came in handy for that. Now that his name is a liability rather than an asset- he and his family need to grift the highest office in the land, Ivanka and Jarred are the ones with that plan.

    1. BOC March 29, 2017

      You forgot to include Vlady, who’s steering the ship. Never thought I’d live to see a Russian infiltrate the white house. Ronald Reagan has to be ‘spinning’ around in his grave right now.

      1. Independent1 March 30, 2017

        Yeah, but even Reagan was big on dealing with foreigners and terrorists. Remember the deals he cut with the Iranians, the Contras and even the Saudi’s when he put 4-500 Marines in harms way in Lebanon and 241 of them were killed in their sleep by terrorist bombers who Reagan never even tried to hunt down? Instead, Regan just cut and ran.

        Here’s a photo of Reagan in a pow wow with a bunch of Taliban terrorists. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/97d6eb5e34d083898d3691ebd317836c838524e0db5973d4210d2ae242b48a47.jpg

  9. BOC March 29, 2017

    The guy he needs to blame is standing right beside him.

  10. dpaano April 3, 2017

    The big joke is that 45 promised all his uneducated, uninformed followers that he was going to do miracles and that he had “plans;” but, in reality, he had NOTHING! He has NO knowledge of how our government works, and he thought he was so smart that he could just go in like a CEO and do whatever he wanted. Unfortunately, he’s finding out that it doesn’t quite work that way. But, rather than taking the blame for his lack of knowledge and for the promises he won’t be able to keep, he puts the blame on anyone that he can! He hasn’t quite figured out either that “the buck stops” at his desk and that he’s the president 24/7 (not just during the week before he leaves for Mar-a-Lago on our dimes)! He never had a plan; neither did Ryan….they had NO idea that 45 would even be elected, so they just kept trying to get rid of Obamacare without any idea how to replace it. So, they jury-rigged something in 17 days and expected the Congress to approve it…..well, guess what, it didn’t fly! Who’s fault was it? It’s 45’s fault…..he never even tried to WORK with the Congress to come up with a plan that would fulfill the so-called “promise” that he made to his followers….if he had, he would NOT have approved of the healthcare plan that Ryan through together! It certainly would NOT have accomplished what he promised in any way, shape, OR form!!
    Now his problem is that he has 3 parties in the Congress….the Democrats (who are willing to work to FIX the problems with Obamacare without repealing it); the Freedom Caucus (who just want to do away with it in its entirety and let people die without adequate healthcare), and the Moderate Republicans (who want to do SOMETHING, but have NO idea what. He’s going to find out that his budget plan is not going to fly either, nor will his so-called “wall.” He’s got 3 factions to deal with now, and it’s always harder when you have 3 groups in lieu of only 2 to convince! Good luck, 45….maybe you need to realize your out of your league and resign before you screw up this country any more than you already have! Just my opinion…..


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