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What Can Republicans Do If Obamacare Isn’t A Disaster?

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What Can Republicans Do If Obamacare Isn’t A Disaster?

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As the 2014 midterms draw nearer, the Republican Party has developed a simple, Costanza-esque plan for the election season: Nothing.

The theory, which is reportedly being pushed by House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) over the objections of some House members, goes as follows: As the rollout of the Affordable Care Act continues, Republicans should fade to the background and watch it “collapse under its own weight,” as Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) is prone to saying. That will allow Republicans to eliminate any distractions as they relentlessly hammer Democrats over the law’s failures, on the way to maintaining their House majority and winning the net six seats needed to take control of the Senate.

The Republican strategy makes some sense on its face — after all, no issue fires up Republican loyalists quite like the Affordable Care Act, and there’s no question that the law’s troubled rollout has been a massive political headache for Democrats.

But there’s a question that should keep every Republican strategist up at night: What happens if health care reform isn’t the electoral albatross that Republicans assume?

It’s not an unrealistic proposition. After all, despite the massively publicized problems with the launch of the law, the percentage of Americans who want it scaled back or repealed has hardly changed over the past two years. There are more reasons to be optimistic that the law will work as intended than there have been at any point since its rollout. Americans still have no faith in the Republican Party to create a constructive alternative. And, crucially, at least one poll suggests that the public is more concerned with job creation, gun reform, and immigration reform — bread-and-butter issues for Democrats — than with reducing the deficit or repealing Obamacare (the central tenets of the GOP platform, such as it exists).

In fact, according to the final Democracy Corps battleground survey of 2013, Republicans may actually pay a political price for their unyielding attacks on the health care reform law. As pollster Erica Seifert put it, “battling on Obamacare is [Republicans’] weakest case for re-election. In fact, it undermines it.”

So if the Affordable Care Act doesn’t crash and burn, destroying the Democratic Party with it, what is the Republican Party’s plan B?

It appears that their guess is as good as yours.

Speaker Boehner has reportedly been trumpeting the results of a recent survey finding that the public now primarily blames President Obama for the nation’s economic problems, rather than the policies of his predecessor.

“Since he can’t blame George W. Bush anymore, the president has chosen to talk about rising income inequality, unemployment, and the need to extend emergency unemployment benefits,” Boehner told House Republicans, according to The Hill. “After five years in office, Barack Obama still doesn’t have an answer to the question: Where are the jobs?”

The problem for Boehner is twofold: First, Americans very clearly want to have the conversation that President Obama has begun. Second, if Republicans have an answer to the “where are the jobs?” question, they are keeping it awfully close to the vest.

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Henry Decker

Henry Decker was formerly the Managing Editor of The National Memo. He is currently an Online Associate at MRCampaigns.

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  1. Dominick Vila January 17, 2014

    The answer to the rhetorical question in this article is simple: the GOP will remind the public that ACA was conceived by the most conservative think tank in the country – The Heritage Foundation – and first tested by a Republican Governor: Mitt Romney. They may add that the original package was improved thanks to the pressure they applied on the administration. BTW, ACA will be one of the greatest success stories since the Civil Rights battles and the creation of MEDICARE. Like every other major program, it will require changes as we learn more about its strengths and weaknesses, and the GOP would have benefited had they taken a more proactive posture during its design and implementation.

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    1. whodatbob January 17, 2014

      I pray you are correct about ACA.

      1. Independent1 January 18, 2014

        Below is the link to a recent DailyKos article you might find of interest which says:

        Obamacare enrollments keeping up high pace

        Here’s a brief excerpt:

        Furthermore, the pace of enrollments for the ACA is faster than it was for Medicare Part D, the last big federal health care expansion effort under the Bush administration. That’s according to research done by House Democrats on the Energy and Commerce Committee. But if you really need convincing that, despite the completely botched early rollout of the exchanges, participation is hitting targets there’s this: The insurance companies aren’t just not panicking, they think everything’s going to be fine with the new law.

        So House Speaker John Boehner might have to rethink his whole strategy of “sit back and bet on Obamacare collapsing under its own weight.”

        http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/01/16/1270137/-Obamacare-enrollments-keeping-up-high-nbsp-pace?detail=email

    2. elw January 17, 2014

      Except, Dominick, there will be hundreds of videos out there that will clearly show how hard they worked to destroy it. The ACA is here to stay and it will be successful and a very different program by the end of the decade,

  2. disqus_ivSI3ByGmh January 17, 2014

    I still recall the Republican got into the Majority in the House in 2010 by promising two things – Repeal of the ACA and a Jobs Creation bill. Well, they appear to have been so busy trying to accomplish the former that they have completely abandoned the latter.

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    1. elw January 17, 2014

      Mostly they won the House thanks to Gerrymandering. Which by the way will not help them on a National level.

    2. paulyz January 18, 2014

      But unfortunately the Democrats are in power and haven’t created any jobs, except for Illegal aliens.

  3. FT66 January 17, 2014

    I think people need to be smart and understand that any Party which wants to win by negative message by pinpointing the other Party, need NOT to be considered at all. Coming up with negative messages and not offering any alternatives (what to be done differently), or no new ideas, doesn’t help anyone. They do not deserve any vote.

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  4. itsfun January 17, 2014

    The Republicans will run against the Obamacare tax. To many holes in it, to fix before the 2014 elections. To this day, no one know how many people have signed up and paid for insurance through the exchanges. Not enough young people will sign up for it. Why would they, when their parents will pay for their care? Another reason they won’t sign up is, why sign up when insurance companies cannot refuse those with existing conditions. They will sign up if they get a terrible disease. The Republicans will run against the scandals as more and more keeps coming out on Benghazi and the fake investigation of the IRS targeting people. The Republicans will run against the so-called transparency in the WH. They will run against no one being held accountable for any of the scandals. I have read that even in Michigan the Senate seat being vacated by Carl Levin is in danger of going Republican according to the latest polls. I don’t know if that is right, but I have read that.

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    1. FT66 January 17, 2014

      I admire your way of thinking eh!.You wrote: “They will sign up if they get a terrible disease”. Really, is that wise? OK. They eat only when they feel hungry. It is not necessary to eat without feeling hungry first eh!

      1. itsfun January 17, 2014

        The law says no one with an existing condition can be refused insurance. They may be thinking they are young, strong, healthy, so why pay 200-500 a month for insurance I don’t use. They don’t take many if any prescription meds. If they get a horrible disease (cancer, Parkinson, MS, etc) they can then sign up and get health care. They will be getting their insurance when they feel they need it. In the meantime they save the money on premiums. Why would they sign up?

        1. charleo1 January 17, 2014

          You have a point there. And it may be ObamaCare’s
          undoing. Because, there really must be an incentive
          beyond the IRS retaining part of one’s tax refund, for
          the young to sign up. Like having assets that can be
          attached to pay for uninsured medical bills. Children,
          or the prospect of having them, should be a reason.
          But, as long as the youth can access the medical
          system through the emergency rooms, as needed,
          they may decide in large enough numbers to stay
          out of affordable care, dooming the program. A
          couple of things to keep in mind here, is expanding
          the insurance roles in such a manner, has never been tried. All other industrialized countries that have
          Nation wide healthcare, handled through their govt…
          Why? Because it’s less expensive, costs can be
          controlled much easier, and risk is spread much more effectively. If ACA fails, what is probably going to happen is we’ll go back to the old system, that businesses, especially small ones, that collectively
          employ more of us than the large corporations, are
          going to continue to shed their employee plans as the
          costs devour an ever larger share of their profit margins. In other words, what was happening before
          will continue. The next major change will then be, a
          limiting of what hospitals are required to do under the
          mandated treatment law. Then, the Country will truly
          have it’s come to Jesus moment on healthcare. Who
          has access to it, who doesn’t, and what the ramifications of that will mean to all of us. Ending
          ObamaCare, seemingly the only goal shared by the
          Right, will not be the end all of all of our healthcare
          problems. But, another beginning.

          1. Independent1 January 17, 2014

            Charle, that hasn’t been a problem in Mass. – even the young group have signed up. Also consider this:

            Millions Eligible for Obamacare Subsidies, but Most Don’t Know It

            byCNNMoney Apr 23rd 2013 4:06PM

            Nearly 26 million Americans could be eligible for health insurance subsidies next year, but most don’t know it.

            That’s because relatively few people are familiar with provisions in the Affordable Care Act, aka “Obamacare,” that will provide tax credits to low- and middle-income consumers to help them purchase health coverage through state-run insurance exchanges.

            Most of those who will be able to claim the subsidies are in working families with annual earnings between $47,100 and $94,200, according to a recent analysis by Families USA, a consumer advocacy group. More than a third of those eligible will be young adults between ages 18 and 34.

          2. charleo1 January 17, 2014

            As you know, I hope my skepticism is badly
            misplaced. That you are right, (you usually are.)
            That the deal will take off, and be a huge success.
            Nothing would make me happier. It’s the numbers
            so far have not been strong enough in this critical
            age group to allay some nagging concerns.But,
            here’s to your post! I’m feeling much better already!

        2. springerj January 17, 2014

          How would they have found out they had cancer? Wait until there’s a huge tumor and then go to the ER?

          WITH health insurance, they would have annual health check ups, and diseases could be found and treated BEFORE they are life-threatening. That’s why they should have insurance.

          1. itsfun January 17, 2014

            You are missing my point. I agree that all should have some kind of health care and get annual physicals. The point is the young think they will not get a terrible disease, so why pay monthly premiums when they can wait and pay the premiums if they get sick. They don’t think they need it and would rather pay for a new car or such.

        3. elw January 17, 2014

          Except, even young and health people have accidents that can cost enough to ruin their lives (if they live) and the insurer will not have to cover it, because it happen before the person signed up. You also forget that, in most cases, cancer is very advanced before the person who has it notices and by that time it is usually a death sentence, the whole purpose of health insurance is those annual test and examinations to catch the early signs, so it is cheaper and possible to cure. Oh, also, if they pay for a doctor visit out of their own pocket and get told they have cancer, they can sign up for health care – but the insurer does not pay to fix what they already have. It can cost upwards of a million dollars for cancer treatment and yes the insurer will pay for treatment if it come back – but if they do not have 100s or thousand dollar to get the initial treatment they may not be around to enjoy the benefits they are purchasing. You premises are ignorant and not fact based.

          1. itsfun January 17, 2014

            You are missing what I am saying. I am not saying they shouldn’t have insurance. The young as a whole don’t believe they will ever get sick or old. If they get into a car accident, the car insurance will pay for their injuries. The insurer will pay for their cancer treatments or whatever they have. But, many young don’t think they will get sick. They would rather pay for a new car or appt. or such.

          2. elw January 17, 2014

            It is a silly point anyways because it will not make a difference as far as the healthy/sick ratio goes. When it come to that, healthy is more important than age and many people today stay healthy well past middle age. In fact their are even enough healthy people covered by Medicare who keep the health/sick balance in place for it. You assume that all younger people do not think ahead and all older people are sick – neither premise is correct and you cannot prove them.

        4. idamag January 19, 2014

          The law that says that, came from the ACA.

    2. pisces63 January 17, 2014

      No one knows how many people are enrolled on any insurance plan. I work for one and can give an estimate, still. They were going to ER’s with headaches to terrible diseases. It cost the federal government almost $3 billion dollars in payments to Ohio Hospitals for the unisured treated in their ER’s in 2012. That’s better?? Just think of the amount for 49 other states and their territories? Benghazi is a crock and NOTHING more has come out. Surprise!! I read. Where are the investigations for the 10+ attacks under Bush, 10 died in a friendly country attack, Saudi Arabia. Where is that investigation. No, it is typical. Blame the black man. Until people face the fact the vast majority of the lies, half truths and enuendo againt this president is due to his race. Don’t say I pulled the race card. He IS the race card. The biggest proof of this is calling him a liar because of dropped coverage. Excuse me!! Did he underwrite, develop, contruct plans? Did he sell them and collect premiums for them? Did he drop them? No!! So what he said was true not a lie. It took rich white business men to know the black man would be blamed for their folly, as usual. No due diligence at all. Were reporters et al too afraid to question these carriers why they dropped coverage? NOOOOOOO!! Can’t do that. They’re white and right. Don’t question them why they did not change the plans in the four years available. No one asked them why they denied themselves millions in premiums. Why? To make the black guy look bad and Holder is definitely correct, it’s in your collective DNA. Illinois has a moratorium on the death penalty. Why? They blamed the black man and set up so many innocent men to get the conviction. Prosecutors where charged. The guy in Boston who had his wife shot. Black man did it and turned a neighborhood upside down and you still have old white cops who say the black guy did it and not the husband. Susan Smith, black man did it. Goodfellows, someone stole my truck, can you believe it a ‘n’ stole my truck. Blame a black kid with a drink in hand for his own death. No jobs, blame the black man but it was the white bigoted right led by Bull Connor, oops, Mitch McConnell, the day AFTER the 2008 election who issued a racist rant of not allowing this man to do anything, pass anything or allow anything he wants to succeed and included infrastructure jobs creation. The bastards voted it down and now blame him for that, too??

      1. itsfun January 17, 2014

        You are pulling the race card. You are making things up as you go along, and expect people to buy into it, or feel sorry for the black man being blamed for being incompetent. It doesn’t matter what color he is (actually isn’t he as much white as he is black), he has a failed presidency. Your only defense of this incompetent man is the race card. Benghazi is back in the news now that a report from a bi-partisan committee has been released. It is a terrible scandal and is showing our president to be more of a liar then we knew before. If Obama really wants to do something good for our country, he will resign.

        1. pisces63 January 17, 2014

          Not to the right wing bigots. He isn’t even an American according to them. As for the report. Conspicuously missing is congress’ denial, more than once, for the funds to shore up said embassies and consulates. If Bush did not have to resign for causing the deaths of over 4,000 of our precious lives and getting his vp’s company paid millions in ‘death benefits’ using his bunch of mercs , you have alot of nerve building a lie out of Benghazi to make a none point. The terrible scandals were the marine barracks under Reagan. Over 200 died in their tents!!! Why didn’t he retire for his incompetence? Lockkerbee? High jacking of an airline, dumping one of our sailors onto the tarmack in our sight!! There is proof that Bush and Rice and the rest knew of an impending attack roughly two weeks before 9/11 and they blatantly disregarded it to continue plans to invade Iraq. That would make close to 8,000 killed under Bush, wouldn’t it. Was he asked to resign??? You and your ilk want him to resign to make the point a black man could not do it. He isn’t qutting even with the deliberate cock blocking done by a right wing full of bigots from the jim crow era congress to not let anything he wants to do succeed, including creating jobs. Mark it for the record and you can never change it.

          1. itsfun January 17, 2014

            Doesn’t the 15 witnesses to Benghazi being killed seem a little fishy to you? Why do you continue to play the race card? I always said I thought Obama was the height of the American Dream. How he came from nothing to be the President. I always had respect for him as a man and said I would like to sit down with him in a sports bar and watch football and have a couple of beers. I still think he is the American dream. However I have lost all respect for him as a man and a president. His constant blaming others for his failures and his constant lying are not signs of a good man or a leader. He has made the US a laughing stock to the world. He has made Putin the most respected leader in the world now. A proven liar will never get anyone to believe him or respect him.

          2. pisces63 January 17, 2014

            I play the hand I am dealt. NO president and I have been paying attention since Kennedy, Johnson was EVER told by a speaker of the hous or a senate majority leader of a different party they would make sure nothing he tries to do would succeed. NO president since I was old enough to pay attention had ever had a hit put on his family and him. NO president, other than Johnson for The viet Nam War Escalation and the right wing hypocrites wanted wanted it to go on, has been vilified for something not in his control. Many southerners threw parties and cheered when JFK was assassinated and i just bet you don’t considered them happy because they were anti-Catholic. The amazing thing is, you did not address the catastrophe’s under the other president s and why no blow back. My point is made. Tell it to the marines. My dad served in the Navy during WWII. He hasn’t lied about anything and I am sick an tired of someone like you who mimics the apes of the right by writing I make up information. I fact check everything and what I wrote, I lived through at almost 65 years old. ALL of it and no blow back except for my generation taking to the streets to protest the war, discrimination, no votes for black people. WHAT , SPECIFICALLY DID HE LIE ABOUT AND NOT WHAT YOU HEARD.

          3. Independent1 January 17, 2014

            Pisces, itsfun is a troll that really should be banned from the NM. No matter what you say, itsfun will bring up another subject to denigrate Obama.

          4. idamag January 17, 2014

            And even if the conversation is about whether it is better to plant irises or roses around the White House, ifsun will say. “What about Bengahzi>” and bring up stuff that has already been proven false.

          5. Independent1 January 17, 2014

            Exactly, and the NM editors should really restrict him from blogging here – his only intent is to bring up whatever he can to denigrate the President.

          6. itsfun January 17, 2014

            No one with a opinion or view different from yours should ever be allowed to post. We can’t be letting American citizens post their views if they don’t agree with the liberals. After all, what country do you think you are in?

          7. plc97477 January 17, 2014

            It doesn’t really matter what country we are in. It matters that we are on a left blog and thus have the right to expect others to agree to most of what we say.

          8. Independent1 January 17, 2014

            You’re not expressing a different opinion, you’re just posting more lies!!

          9. itsfun January 18, 2014

            You would deny the truth if it hit you in the face. You can deny, but these things are not going away. Spin all you want, but the American people are seeing right through the lies of this administration.

          10. Independent1 January 18, 2014

            Let’s hear those lies itsfun, you haven’t posted one bonefida lie – and Obama saying you could keep your healthcare policy and doctor, was not a lie – it was the insurance companies that broke that promise not Obama. ACA grandfathered in all their policies and it was the insurance companies who chose to cancell the policies because the vast majority of them were scams!!!

            Here’s an excerpt from an OpEd article that you need to read about the absolute disaster that the GOP is:

            GOP May Be Required By Law To Post Warning Label

            Atavistic Laboratories of Patterson, New Jersey has finalized weeks of research on hazardous and dangerous materials and organizations. The GOP, they say, “”is more dangerous than tobacco, agent orange, RoundUp, radioactivity, Vlad the Impaler, Croesus, Viking Berserkers and Genghis Khan’s Golden Horde– combined.”” A spokesman for the laboratory suggested that “”Satan himself would be hard put to equal the infernal effects of the GOP.”

            The renowned international testing and assessment lab concluded research after an intensive study of the effects of Republican administrations. “The record is undeniably clear,” they say, “thousands of Americans are pushing up daisies solely because of Republican administrations, trillions of dollars have been and continue to be funneled into Swiss bank accounts, derivatives, defense industries, and ponzie schemes like bank failures and corporate educational systems.”

            Here’s the link to the entire OpEd so you can read all the lovely things about the worst organization on the planet – the GOP!!

            http://www.opednews.com/articles/GOP-May-Be-Required-By-Law-by-martin-weiss-120919-867.html

          11. itsfun January 18, 2014

            keep spinning, it won’t do you a bit of good come November. The American people are seeing through the administration lies and made up statistics.

          12. idamag January 19, 2014

            You would deny the truth if it hit you in the face.

          13. idamag January 19, 2014

            And you…and you are certainly weighing the facts (notice I say facts) on this board and carefully pondering those views that differ from yours? First of all, you do not join the conversations with an opinion on what is being discussed. You come on with a lot scripted rhetoric that does not fit with the findings. You need to watch the documentary, “Koch Brothers Exosed’ and hear your rhetoric coming out of their mouths first.

          14. itsfun January 19, 2014

            If you go back to the original post, you will see I just said what I think the Republicans will run on. Other topics were kinda forced on me by other posters. I only post my views, not the views of others. Just don’t read my posts when you see my handle if they bother you. Otherwise, until you get put in charge of what I can say or post, I will post what I want to. Again, if you don’t like what I say, don’t read what I say. Its that simple.

          15. itsfun January 17, 2014

            When did we start talking about your dad? I said Obama lied about health care and Benghazi. CNN yesterday had a segment on Benghazi . A bipartisan committee yesterday released formally classified documents, that proved Obama lied about what happened in Benghazi. What about the marines in Benghazi?
            My dad flew 51 missions on a B-24 in WWII.

          16. daniel bostdorf January 17, 2014

            A social media troll as someone who seeks to lure or bait people into negative, disruptive rhetoric for their own edification or to commandeer an otherwise free-flowing discussion among colleagues. They don’t recognize anyone that may be interested in discussing something that bores them and opt to criticize or yell “boring” instead of engaging in the discussion. They choose to belittle those who seek the information and discourse as well as those who try to provide it. They simply have no interest in anything that is not self-serving. Trolls will defend their focus on expressing contrary opinions as an honorable attempt to rid the online community of fake-experts, get to the truth of a matter or enlighten their followers; however, their intent has nothing to do with community building or public enlightenment.

          17. daniel bostdorf January 17, 2014

            troll

        2. pisces63 January 17, 2014

          Republicans voted to cut $300 billion from the fund for embassies and consultates. Who is at fault. republican from Utah said there were other more important priorities.

        3. CripesAmighty January 17, 2014

          Benghazi Tourettes. Surely there’s a treatment for that.

          1. plc97477 January 17, 2014

            I bet the ACA can help with it.

        4. daniel bostdorf January 17, 2014

          go away troll…

          A social media troll as someone who seeks to lure or bait people into negative, disruptive rhetoric for their own edification or to commandeer an otherwise free-flowing discussion among colleagues. They don’t recognize anyone that may be interested in discussing something that bores them and opt to criticize or yell “boring” instead of engaging in the discussion. They choose to belittle those who seek the information and discourse as well as those who try to provide it. They simply have no interest in anything that is not self-serving. Trolls will defend their focus on expressing contrary opinions as an honorable attempt to rid the online community of fake-experts, get to the truth of a matter or enlighten their followers; however, their intent has nothing to do with community building or public enlightenment.

        5. Sand_Cat January 19, 2014

          And you’re pulling your own ___.

          Yes, Obama and Hilary personally murdered the ambassador in Benghazi, but the typist must have left it out of the report.
          Why don’t you give it a rest?

          1. idamag January 19, 2014

            ifsun might have e-mails, he got from the White House where Obama e-mailed Hiliary and said, “I think it is time we had a consulate attacked.” He also has Hiliary’s e-mail saying, “You got it.”

      2. neeceoooo January 17, 2014

        You hit the nail on the head, thank you for bringing these points to the surface.

      3. idamag January 17, 2014

        Koch heads are not going to pay any attention to your facts.

    3. springerj January 17, 2014

      When 23-year-olds are covered by their parents’ insurance, they are still “signed up.”

      If I am involved in a debilitating accident on June 1, 2014 and am not insured, I cannot sign up for insurance until the following January 1. There will always be windows (limited times) to sign up for health insurance.

    4. elw January 17, 2014

      A recent report from the Kaiser foundation showed that there is a good mix between the ages. You should note, that age is not as important as “healthy,” and it will take at least a year to really know who and how much the people enrolled are using the benefits. BTW, none of those scandals you mentioned have been proven by the Republican led investigative committees and the polls show they have made the GOP candidates running them less popular. I guess the public believes the reports that show that they were anything but scandals. You should try reading from other sources instead of only those you disagree with.

    5. daniel bostdorf January 17, 2014

      off topic troll stuff…What Can Republicans Do If Obamacare Isn’t A Disaster?

      Nothing. It has ALWAYS been a Fool’s errand on their part to try and make it a disaster.

  5. old_blu January 17, 2014

    They are going to do everything in their power to make sure the ACA fails because it’s the only thing they have been passionate enough to do anything about for the last five years, they almost have to make it fail. They have been working so hard at making President Obama look bad they forgot there was going to be another vote some day.
    The last five years have been just trying to make the President look bad and trample on anyone who does anything different.
    I think the day of reckoning is coming, and now they’re pulling crap out of their hats to try and look good.

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    1. Bill January 17, 2014

      I agree with your comment but I don’t know of anything they have done to make themselves look good. Cut unemployment, cut food stamps, attack social security and any program that benefits the middle class and the poor. Protect tax breaks for the rich even though they were never paid for, the GOP only cares about deficits when it affects common people. When it comes to the rich they have no problem with deficits. The GOP has always been for the rich, the only difference is they don’t even try to hide it anymore.

      1. old_blu January 17, 2014

        Actually you made me think a little here because they really haven’t done anything to make themselves look good.
        I was thinking that passing the new budget deal was making them look somewhat good, but if you think about it, it just makes them look not as bad.

    2. paulyz January 18, 2014

      The GOP isn’t doing anything to make Obamacare fail, Obama himself did that, even had to lie to ram it through without anyone knowing what was even in it. Now we know!

      1. Independent1 January 18, 2014

        Really?? Is that why this is happening:

        Obamacare enrollments keeping up high pace

        Here’s a brief excerpt:

        Furthermore, the pace of enrollments for the ACA is faster than it was for Medicare Part D, the last big federal health care expansion effort under the Bush administration. That’s according to research done by House Democrats on the Energy and Commerce Committee. But if you really need convincing that, despite the completely botched early rollout of the exchanges, participation is hitting targets there’s this: The insurance companies aren’t just not panicking, they think everything’s going to be fine with the new law.

        So House Speaker John Boehner might have to rethink his whole strategy of “sit back and bet on Obamacare collapsing under its own weight.”

        I SURE WOULDN’T COUNT MY CHICKENS BEFORE EVERYTHING IS SAID AND DONE!!!

        http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/01/16/1270137/-Obamacare-enrollments-keeping-up-high-nbsp-pace?detail=email

      2. Sand_Cat January 19, 2014

        IDIOT.

  6. neeceoooo January 17, 2014

    Could we remind everyone that the jobs bill was held up by the GOP.

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    1. daniel bostdorf January 17, 2014

      Can I remind all that..

      What Can Republicans Do If Obamacare Isn’t A Disaster?

      Nothing. It has ALWAYS been a Fool’s errand on their part to try and make it a disaster.

    2. Independent1 January 18, 2014

      Not only has job creation way outperformed anything during the 8 dismal years of the Bush Administration despite the GOP obstructionism, it looks like the American people are proving the GOP wrong about Obamacare by pushing forward even in the 1st few weeks of January.

      See these excerpts from a DailyKos article:

      Obamacare enrollments keeping up high pace

      New York is enrolling as many as 7,000 people per day this month, and California reports “a tremendous amount of interest,” though the state didn’t provide updated numbers in that call. Six states which are using the federal exchange—North Carolina, Michigan, Wisconsin, Idaho, New Hampshire and Maine—are currently ahead of their target enrollments. That’s notable in part because none of the states has yet implemented the Medicaid expansion. Medicaid enrollments have accounted for a big chunk of enrollments in other states.

      Furthermore, the pace of enrollments for the ACA is faster than it was for Medicare Part D, the last big federal health care expansion effort under the Bush administration. That’s according to research done by House Democrats on the Energy and Commerce Committee. But if you really need convincing that, despite the completely botched early rollout of the exchanges, participation is hitting targets there’s this: The insurance companies aren’t just not panicking, they think everything’s going to be fine with the new law.

      So House Speaker John Boehner might have to rethink his whole strategy of “sit back and bet on Obamacare collapsing under its own weight.”

      http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/01/16/1270137/-Obamacare-enrollments-keeping-up-high-nbsp-pace?detail=email

  7. Lovefacts January 17, 2014

    I wish Obama had had the guts to go with a single payer system–Medicare for all, and everyone then could buy secondary insurance policies as those on Medicare currently do. I’d have loved to see the Republicans run against something called Medicare for All. As for Obama, I’ve just about given up on him–but that’s another discussion for another time.

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    1. neeceoooo January 17, 2014

      I understand the one payer system and to some degree, I agree. However, the obstruction that he has gotten from the GOP with the ACA is minor compared to what he would get with the one payer system. It would never have gotten out the door.

      1. plc97477 January 17, 2014

        The ACA at least gets us in the ball park. It won’t be as hard to go to single payer from there than from what we had before.

        1. neeceoooo January 18, 2014

          You are so right, at least we are in the ball park and we will take what we can get.

    2. Bill January 17, 2014

      I believe we will have single payer some day, they let the GOP take it out and then none of them voted for it anyway. I voted for Obama twice myself and I am disappointed with him being willing to cut social security and now trying to push through another trade agreement that will do nothing to help the American worker.

    3. idamag January 17, 2014

      There would have been zero progress if Obama had held out for the single payer. I’m with you. I think we need it.

      1. Independent1 January 17, 2014

        I’m fairly confident we’ll get to single-payer but there was no chance for it in 2009, and it really wasn’t the right timing given the state of the country – the more than 10 million jobs that had already been lost, the auto industry at the verge of collapse, unemployment heading to 10/1% and 1.9 trillion in already deficit spending in Bush’s last budget.

    4. plc97477 January 17, 2014

      He had the guts he didn’t have the votes.

      1. Independent1 January 17, 2014

        Exactly!! Obama tried but got too much pushback from Congress.

  8. elw January 17, 2014

    With my 30 plus years of Professional experience working within both the public and private side of Healthcare in this Country, I can make a strong experienced based prediction that the ACA will not fail. I have watched and helped lunch a number of new health care programs and none of them ended up failing. They all sputtered, and tripped to begin with, some more than others, but none of them could be called failures. The ACA is a balance between a public option and the private health insurers our current system is based on, it has the backing of the insurers who stand to profit from it and most importantly it can will bring health care coverage to millions of Americans who had been lock out of it by Private insurers. There are 45 + millions of Americans who have been locked out the insurance market place, most of them voters. Do not think for a minute that they will giving the Republicans credit for trying to take away their new source for health coverage. As has been their habit in the recent past, the Republicans have again pick a losing side of an issue.

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    1. itsfun January 17, 2014

      What about the millions that have and will receive cancellation notices, and/or have their premiums raised because of the obamacare tax? Who do you think they will vote for?

      1. neeceoooo January 17, 2014

        And what about the millions that have received cancellations notices and have then purchased a better and a cheaper policy than they had in before the ACA.

      2. pisces63 January 17, 2014

        I have been working in the Health insurance arena for 27+ years. Companies have been raising premiums and going into high deductibles plans for over 10 years and no one said a word. They are using ACA as an excuse and people like you fall for it. People have been dropped for years. In fact, here, a kid always could remain on his parent’s policy until 23 AND then was offered their own at a discount and no pre-existing, just continues on. If there is an accident, insurance will pay? They don’t think they need that, either. Or a helmet on a motorcycle. They speed and crash into trees with frequent regularity in outer rim suburbs of Cleveland. NO insurance or catastrophic only, WE still pay and they have no way, if seriously hurt, to sign up for an aspirin. IF $95.00 will raise premiums, you really have a problem. It’s cheaper to pay that, drop them and let the government take them. I know it is their plan. I have been watching them for years, including my own and long before ACA.

        1. idamag January 17, 2014

          I personally knew of a baby born with hip displasia. He was operated on when he was less than a year old. The operation was a success, but his parents could not get him on their insurance. I also knew a man who was working for a boss who was a micro-manager and dictatorial. The man was passed over several times for positions he sought. . He was offered a much better job with another firm, but could not accept the position. The potential employer told him, because his child had diabetes 1, that he would not be eligible for their insurance. So, he stayed on his other job. These things are things of the past, thank goodness.

          1. Independent1 January 18, 2014

            You may find this recent article from the DailyKos of interest:
            Obamacare enrollments keep up high pace:

            http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/01/16/1270137/-Obamacare-enrollments-keeping-up-high-nbsp-pace?detail=email

      3. Independent1 January 17, 2014

        Washington — Fewer than 500,000 people who had their individual insurance policies cancelled will be without coverage on January 1, the Obama administration estimated Thursday.

        That’s far less than the millions of people that health law critics said would lack insurance after their old policies were terminated because they didn’t meet new minimal standards under the Affordable Care Act.

        Catastrophic plans typically have lower premiums than a comprehensive plan, but individuals are usually responsible for initial medical costs – often up to $6,000 – before coverage kicks in.

        People with policy cancellations who want catastrophic coverage must complete a hardship exemption form and submit it to the insurer offering catastrophic coverage along with documentation showing that their previous policy was cancelled.

        The insurer will then forward that information to the Department of Health and Human Services to verify eligibility for the exemption.

        Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/12/20/212275/only-500000-people-with-cancelled.html#storylink=cpy

        1. elw January 17, 2014

          Actually, Kaiser did a study that showed on 10,000 people, in 18 counties in the Country, could not get a replacement nor could they buy on the exchange because their income was too high, high enough that they could afford any increase in the cost.

          1. daniel bostdorf January 17, 2014

            topic:

            What Can Republicans Do If Obamacare Isn’t A Disaster?

            Nothing. It has ALWAYS been a Fool’s errand on their part to try and make it a disaster.

          2. elw January 18, 2014

            Of course you and I know that, but they believe that they are on a mission from God. BTW thanks for getting the trolls removed.

          3. daniel bostdorf January 18, 2014

            NM editors got it removed…all I did was flag it…

          4. elw January 18, 2014

            I have been flagging them for awhile and nothing happened, so whatever you did worked and for that I still thank you.

          5. daniel bostdorf January 18, 2014

            Go down to bottom of National Memo page and click on contacts for “editors.” They are very busy and wont put up with simple requests to have someone removed because you dont like the post. Just tell them you flagged it that is all and ask for review of the post and name the article title.

          6. elw January 18, 2014

            Thanks, the only ones I flag are the ones with inappropriate sexual content, those that threaten bodily harm and the President or his family. I pretty much believe that everything else is opinion.

          7. daniel bostdorf January 18, 2014

            Agree—Yeah—I like urban graffitti that is artful and has messages too….love contray opinions as long as they are not bullying, name calling and off topic rant…

            trolls are another matter…they will yell fire in a theatre to get attention…

            And especially hate the “cut and paste” trollster who take an idea written 3 years ago, and just posts it wherever….OY!

          8. elw January 18, 2014

            Or the ones that post the same message over and over again. They are wasting everyone’s time and have nothing worthwhile to add to the conversation. I would also be bored if everyone agreed with me. Variety is the spice of life.

        2. daniel bostdorf January 18, 2014

          NM editors have removed the trolls.

          1. Independent1 January 18, 2014

            Thanks for following up to get them removed!!

          2. daniel bostdorf January 18, 2014

            NM editors did it—just flag the buggers…check out jason’s new article…

      4. Independent1 January 17, 2014

        USNews (1/3/2014) – Millions of People Have Health Insurance Thanks to Obamacare

        How many people are currently covered through the law? Start with the 1.1 million who have gotten care through the federal website. If you layer on the number of enrollees who have gotten coverage through state-run exchanges that number tops 2.1 million, Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius announced Tuesday. Then throw in the 3.9 million people who have gotten health coverage under Obamacare’s Medicaid expansion. Oh and don’t forget about the young adults under 26 who are still covered by their parents’ health insurance plans thanks to the Affordable Care Act. A year-and-a-half ago, the Department of Health and Human Services put the number at 3.1 million but an August study by the Commonwealth Fund, a private foundation that focuses on health policy research, estimated that the figure had reached 7.8 million. Total those numbers and you get a minimum of 9 million Americans covered through Obamacare and a maximum of nearly 14 million.

      5. elw January 17, 2014

        Itsfun, first of all no one really know how many millions of people actually received cancellation notices (insurers are not required to tract that information or share it). Those large numbers are made up by the right. Secondly, millions across the Country have received cancellation notices every year for decades, so this years may not be that out of line with normal. No one else will receive cancellation notices until next year because new policies are annual contracts and insurers are no longer allowed to cancel people mid-year anymore for getting sick. You forget that President Obama will not be running in the next presidential elections and right now the Polls are showing that the rhetoric being spread by opponent have hurt them more than the Democrats. I would guess that the number of people who benefit from the ACA will out number those who have not by large margins. You are only fooling yourself.

      6. daniel bostdorf January 17, 2014

        What Can Republicans Do If Obamacare Isn’t A Disaster?

        Nothing. It has ALWAYS been a Fool’s errand on their part to try and make it a disaster.

      7. Sand_Cat January 19, 2014

        If they are as dishonest and delusional as you are, they’ll vote for the Republicans no matter what.

        1. itsfun January 19, 2014

          Did you see the the Wall Street Journal reported that only 11% of the people signed up for the obamacare tax did not have insurance prior to the obamacare tax? Using the Wall Street Journal numbers that comes out to about 250,000 people insured that weren’t insured. Wasn’t obamacare suspose to help the uninsured people?

          1. Sand_Cat January 20, 2014

            We were discussing your desperation to inflate every misstep of the Obama and every other Democratic administration into something even close to your party’s well-documented and un-rationalizable abuses of power so you can claim they’re “worse than Watergate,” not the Murdock-mouthpiece Wall Street Journal. Each post you make become more hysterically desperate; it’s really sad. Why don’t you get some help, or – better yet – reconsider your beliefs?

  9. Michael Ross January 17, 2014

    Plan B is to insist that it was a failure. They’ve already established that they don’t give half a crap about the truth, so their strategy will remain unchanged no matter what happens: Piss and moan about how big of a failure Obamacare was and hope that their endless chanting will magically turn it into a reality.

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  10. 4sanity4all January 17, 2014

    So, Republicans have no ideas to move the country forward except to ‘elect Conservative leaders’ and ‘stop the Liberal agenda by defeating Democrats’? That’s it? Anyone foolish enough to elect them with that agenda has a tenuous grasp on reality.

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    1. plc97477 January 17, 2014

      Which describes the gotp to a tea.

  11. CripesAmighty January 17, 2014

    Easy.
    1.Just change the channel to the wacky hijinks of another episode of ‘What’s My Debt Ceiling?’.
    2. Blow up the economy
    3. Blame Obama.

    Repeat as necessary.

    Reply
    1. daniel bostdorf January 17, 2014

      Karl Rove Koch brothers playbook…

      Obama got 2 terms….American people see thru this malarky…

  12. daniel bostdorf January 17, 2014

    What Can Republicans Do If Obamacare Isn’t A Disaster?

    Nothing. It has ALWAYS been a Fool’s errand on their part to try and make it a disaster.

    Obamacare works fine in Massachusetts that Mitt Roney supported:

    definition of ‘”ools errand” here:

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fool's+errand

    It never was a disaster except for the CGI GOP related company that “designed” it…

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  13. paulyz January 17, 2014

    Many Liberals & Democrats are just waiting for any sliver of good news to say, “See, Obama just needed more time.” Obamacare IS a disaster, was rammed through under false pretenses, is already costing Millions of Americans to lose their health care, their Doctors, & many have premiums & deductibles rising excessively. Also, the promised $2500 in savings already is a huge lie. This will get worse, everyone knows, quit smoking the wacky tobacky.

    Reply
    1. daniel bostdorf January 18, 2014

      It is not a disaster by any strech of the imagination. The CGI Canadaian firm, utilized by the GOP in past admninistrations—botched the website. That is all. It is fixed pretty much.

      Our version of obamacare ACA is working very very well in Massacahusetts and we thank GOPer Romney for pushing it through..

      Give us a break from this right wing extrrreme propaganda you hear at Fox Faux News and Rush Limbaugh and Karl Rove..

    2. idamag January 19, 2014

      It wasn’t rammed. The President doesn’t have that much power. It was presented, argued, compromised on and voted on. That is how a democracy works.

  14. booker25 January 18, 2014

    Remember 2010? Jobs jobs jobs?? Yeah where are those jobs??

    Reply
    1. daniel bostdorf January 18, 2014

      GOP blocked them. This article is about Obamacare not jobs.Stay on topic please..and—you posted this at other websites as an off topic response…

      here: benny–
      https://twitter.com/JessicaTaylor/status/383018492943159296

    2. idamag January 19, 2014

      Ask Boehner. It is the speaker of the House’s job to get them voted on.

  15. Allan Richardson January 18, 2014

    With Obamacare not being a disaster, the Republicans will do what they always do: LIE ABOUT IT. They will put more and more money into SAYING it is a disaster, despite the facts: “Who are you going to believe, me or your bank account?” And there will be some people who will BELIEVE the lie and be sure to GET OUT AND VOTE for the liars. What the rest of us need is to remind the SANE VOTERS to be sure they REGISTER, be sure they COMPLY with the most ridiculous ID requirements the GOP can enact (and hopefully build a fund to help them do so when money is an obstacle), and be sure to VOTE, regardless of how big a lead you THINK we have. And DONATE what you can and VOLUNTEER as much as you can to spread that message to other voters!

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  16. daniel bostdorf January 18, 2014

    They could try extortion….oh…they did…government shutdown…

    Check out weekend reader about extortion too:
    You want extortion politics….Check out Christies latest extortion…vote my project or you get no Sandy Relief funds!

    Here

    Mayor: Christie aides tied Sandy funds to project

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CHRISTIE_TRAFFIC_JAMS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-01-18-17-44-18

    here;

    http://www.nationalmemo.com/weekend-reader-extortion-how-politicians-extract-your-money-buy-votes-and-line-their-own-pockets/

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