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Tuesday, May 22, 2018

A Birther No More? Trump Makes Maximum Donation To Ted Cruz’s PAC

A Birther No More? Trump Makes Maximum Donation To Ted Cruz’s PAC

Donald Trump may not be sure if Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) is eligible to be president, but he has no problem giving the Tea Party hero a chunk of his fortune.

According to a report in The Hill, Trump has donated $5,000 — the maximum legal amount under current election law — to Senator Cruz’s political action committee, the Jobs Growth and Freedom Fund.

If the PAC’s previous spending habits are any indication, Trump’s $5,000 will mainly go toward paying various political consultants.

Cruz PAC graph
Chart via Center for Responsive Politics

Although contributions make up the smallest part of the pie, Cruz’s PAC has donated $23,800 to nine politicians. Trump will surely be heartened to learn that two of them — Senator James Inhofe (R-OK) and Rep. Steve King (R-IA) — have joined his birther quest to prove that Barack Obama is not eligible to serve as president.

Cruz, who was born in Canada but is a natural born citizen because of his American mother, has also faced birther-themed questions. In August 2013, Trump himself answered a question about Cruz’s eligibility to be president by saying, “If he was born in Canada, then perhaps not.” (As usual, Trump is wrong.)

What convinced Trump to shift from birther attacks to writing checks? According to The Hill, he was won over by Cruz’s disastrously failed plan to force a government shutdown in the hopes of blackmailing Democrats into dismantling the Affordable Care Act.

“He took a stand recently, that if he had just a little backing — and Ted and I have spoken about this — from other Republicans … he would have negotiated one hell of a deal,” Trump said of the shutdown plan during a February speech at the Palm Beach County Republican Party’s Lincoln Day Dinner. “It might not have ended Obamacare, but you would have really gotten a big chunk out of it.”

Trump’s admiration for Cruz’s shutdown plan puts him in a small minority. Much like the idea of Donald Trump running for public office, the scheme was cheered by only a tiny segment of the American fringe — including Donald Trump.

Photo: Gage Skidmore via Flickr

306 Responses to A Birther No More? Trump Makes Maximum Donation To Ted Cruz’s PAC

    • His father left him $4 billion. Through hard work and brilliant management, he has turned that $4 billion into $2.5 billion.
      Cruz/Trump in 2016.

  1. There is very little similarity between the Cruz and Obama birth situations. Cruz freely admits he was born in Canada. Obama has a blatantly forged LFBC and selective service card date stamp that is laughable. The Hawaii Dept. of Health refused to give a direct confirmation of the document posted on whitehouse.gov, stating only that information in their files supported information found on the document posted on the white house web site.
    Of course what they’re not telling you is that most of that information was added in an affidavit from Madelyn Dunham filed a couple of years before she died.
    Likewise, the U.S.P.S. refused to authenticate the phony postage stamp on Obama’s selective service card, making excuses to stay out of the matter entirely as did the selective service system. CYA is alive and well in D.C.
    Contrary to popular belief, Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama’s mother) was not old enough to confer U.S. citizenship to Barack H. Obama at birth. She was three months too young. Cruz on the other hand had two American citizens as parents.

    • Nice doublespeak. By the way, Ted Cruz father was a Cuban Citizen living in Canada, not an American Citizen. He also was one of the people who helped Fidel overthrow Batista.
      As for Obama’s mother, I never heard that a mother had to be a minimum age to confer US citizenship on anyone. She was a US citizen. He was born in Hawaii. Therefore he has a better claim of being a citizen than a Canadian who still has not renounced his Canadian citizenship.

      • Maybe if the Emperor didn’t have all his records sealed, and if he had not been caught lying more than he has been truthful. And perhaps if he had not been caught using other names. I can’t understand why so many support this deceiver after he has been caught covering so much up.

        • Yeh like you are part of the in crowd and you got to view his records. The reason you can’t understand is because you are blinded by hate. Emperor ! Really where have you been, surely not in the US because Obama was elected twice by the majority of the American people, It’s a democracy you know. Foolish little man.

          • “Really where have you been, surely not in the US…”

            I suspect that he was in the Country, sitting and watching and listening regularly to the rightwing radio talkers and the crackpots at Fox “News” as well as reading the World Nut
            Daily. He is showing himself to be a loyal mental midget that the plutocrats are so happy about, because he and his kind will run off and vote against themselves, thereby fornicating themselves and most of the rest of us.

          • Thank you 54 I hadn’t thought about “FOX Noise”
            This fellow does tune to FOX and listens to the likes of Hannity inciting rebellion did you see snipers training their rifles on officers executing a court order. I wouldn’t be surprised if this guy was out there. FOX has gone too far they need to stop and re-examine their purpose they are either a news org. or a mouth piece for militias and right wing extremists.

          • Well everyone can’t live up to the standards set by MSNBC and the other networks who won’t lift a finer to report anything about this president. They are practically satellite PR offices for the white house.

          • As opposed to the Mark Gillar’s Tea Party Power Hour, which is of course a perfectly objective reporter of news and fair, even-handed commentary, right?

          • I hear and see this President in every news channel there is. FYI msnbc was set up to counter the mouth piece’s on FOX. Have you ever paid close attention to Fox anchors it’s 24/7 of it’s Obama’s fault no matter the subject.

          • ” FOX has gone too far they need to stop and re-examine their purpose…”

            Not a chance, because the plutocrats are ecstatic over the success the gang at Fox is having in bringing out the intellectual mediocrities who swallow the bilge washing over them.

          • Stop playing the hate card. Democrats started this birther stuff and demanded to see McCain’s records. This isn’t about hate, it’s about following the constitution.

          • To what Democrats are you referring? How about some NAMES, and the actual instances in which such demands were made?

          • Can’t find info on anyone requesting a birth certificate from a president until Obama, plus McCain has never been president. Throughout our history many constitutional disputes have been before the supreme court. I would say unless you are a constitutional scholar (even they sometimes can’t agree) or have ever served on the supreme court you have no credibility lecturing us on whether or not Obama follows the constitution. Back to hate.

        • His records are sealed to the same extent, and by the same laws, that all such records are “sealed.” What do you mean by he’s “been caught using other names”?

          • Let me answer that. On his mother’s passport he’s listed as Barack Hussein Soebarkah. Pretty easy to look up. He’s also used Barry Soetoro even though there is no proof he ever changed his name to Barry Soetoro or back to BHO. You’d be curious if Sarah Palin did that.

          • No, he isn’t listed on his mother’s passport as “Barack Hussein Soebarkah.” Feel free to look that one up YOURSELF. So when, exactly, did he use the name “Barry Soetoro”?

          • Barry Soetoro appeared on an Indonesian school registration form. Barry is, of course a nickname for Barack, something Obama used until his college days. It’s not at all uncommon for a child to use the surname of the family he lives with, in this case that of his step-father. The school that provided the record said that the parent’s surname was used.

          • I know about that one, but what I’m asking Gill the Shill is when President Obama used the name HIMSELF. Isn’t the school record in Indonesian, and filled out with an adult hand?

          • That’s right. The school record is in Indonesian and Obama obviously didn’t fill out the form himself.

          • I do understand your point about a child informally using a step-father’s name, though; I’ve heard that done myself, absent any legal procedures at all. I have a very nebulous recollection involving an allegation of schoolwork bearing the name “Barry Soetoro,” but that just illustrates how desperate birthers are to come up with ANYTHING to support their claims.

          • President Ford used his step-father’s name throughout high school and college. He didn’t legally become Gerald Ford until his early twenties. Like President Obama, President Ford was never adopted by his step-father.

          • Trying to debate with these trolls is futile, presenting facts like no president in fact no person is required to release their school records. These records under US law can only be released in writing by that person. So either everyone’s school records are “sealed” or everyone’s records are not sealed. This will have know effect on kenndeb or other trolls. I have argued with one who claims that President Obama’s records are sealed because he had bad grades. Pointing out that the president graduated magna cum-laude who refute that bs claim has gone nowhere.

      • You have to go by the law that was in effect at the time of Obama’s birth. If Obama was born overseas his mother would NOT have met the residency requirements for conferring U.S. citizenship to baby Obama. As for Cruz. You are correct that his father was not a U.S. citizen. He too, like Obama, is ineligible to be POTUS.

        • You are totally wrong about President Obama’s citizen status. Even if and that is definitely not the case he were born in a foreign country he would still be a “natural born US citizen”. His mother was a US citizen and would have fulfilled the requirements for her son being a US citizen. Here is the law regarding Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock

          A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) INA provided the citizen parent was physically present in the U.S. for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child’s birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.

          • There is no such thing as “natural born US Citizen” as you put it. You must mean “natural born citizen” which is not the same as US citizen… Why do you think the founders put the grandfather clause in Article II?

            “No person except a natural born citizen, OR a citizen of the United States, AT THE TIME of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President;…”

            Obama’s mother was 18 years old. Going by the law that you cite she fails the residency requirement by a year if Obama was born overseas.

            The fact remains every POTUS and VPOTUS eligible under the grandfather clause in Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution were all born on U.S. soil to two U.S. Citizen parents, except for Barack Obama and Chester Arthur, whom burned all his identity papers shortly before his death.

            Not to mention the fact that Obama has forged identity documents…

          • “Obama’s mother was 18 years old. Going by the law that you cite she
            fails the residency requirement by a year if Obama was born overseas.”
            But that means nothing if he was born in Hawaii, a state in the US. All records show that he was born in Hawaii.
            The birther conspiracy was a desperate attempt by the GOP/TP because they were losing in their campaign. It’s nonsense.

          • Hey Tard. Obama himself started the “birther” issue by claiming he himself was born in Kenya for SIXTEEN YEARS.

          • You mean SOMEBODY else made an admitted error, so obscure that it remained undiscovered for SIXTEEN YEARS. Even the most dogged birthers, who scour the earth for ANYTHING that might cast the slightest shadow of credibility over the lies they love so well, never heard of it til Breitbart blew the dust off of it in 2012. Is THAT what it took to get YOU started birfering?

          • No Tard. Authors provide their own bio to the publishers. The publishers don’t write the bio for the author. Funny how everything related to Obama’s past is somehow a typo or mistake… There’s plenty of other references citing Kenya as Obama’s home country… Including, but not limited to, Michelle and Barry’s own words…

            Just to be clear. I’m one of the “birthers” that don’t know or claim to know where Obama was born.

            I do know every identity document(4) put forth by Team Obama are questionable if not outright forgeries.

          • Well, in this case, the specific person responsible for that specific error categorically denies your GENERALIZATION. What compelling and persuasive reference citing Kenya as President Obama’s PLACE OF BIRTH can you come up with?

            There is no RATIONAL basis for your claim that “every identity document(4) put forth by Team Obama are questionable if not outright forgeries”

            You don’t need to tell us what you are.

          • In case you missed it. In the political world we call that, DAMAGE CONTROL…

            Fact is every author knows THEY provide their own bio… The publisher, literary agent, DOES NOT write the authors bio. Idiot. Any legitimate and honest author will confirm that fact. As has already been done by numerous authors.

          • You would have to be dumb as a post to believe the authors wrote their own bios. All of the bios are written in the third person, none of them are in the first person. Do you really think an author like Mark Olshaker would write this about himself -“Mark Olshaker is a critically acclaimed novelist and award winning film maker whose fiction has been likened to “a collaboration between Robert Ludlum and Carl Sagan.”

            President Obama may have submitted a fact sheet of biographic details but he did not write the finished bio that appears in the brochure. And that’s where Miriam Goderich comes into the picture, as she said,

            “You’re undoubtedly aware of the brouhaha stirred up by Breitbart about the erroneous statement in a client list Acton & Dystel published in 1991 (for circulation within the publishing industry only) that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me — an agency assistant at the time,” Goderich wrote. “There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more.”

            She may have confused the name Barack Hussein Obama who was born in Kenya with Barack Hussein Obama II was born in Hawaii.

            Between 1990 and 1999 there are almost twelve published articles or interviews about Barack Obama and all say he was born in Hawaii. The only one that says he was born in Kenya is the literary agent’s bio. And that was never meant to be seen by the general public, only a few publisher would have seen it.

            So for all the public articles he consistently says he was born in Hawaii and for the one not public article he says born in Kenya. Only a moron would believe that. This is why the birthers have been such failures – they can’t think like rational, normal people.

          • Jay Acton, one of the owners of Acton & Dystel, said that authors were almost nobody wrote their own bio.

          • In the political world we call that, DAMAGE CONTROL…

            Fact is every author knows THEY provide their own bio… The publisher, literary agent, DOES NOT write the authors bio. Idiot. Any legitimate and honest author will confirm that fact. As has already been done by numerous authors.

          • You would have to be dumb as a post to believe the authors wrote their own bios. All of the bios are written in the third person, none of them are in the first person. Do you really think an author like Mark Olshaker would write this about himself -“Mark Olshaker is a critically acclaimed novelist and award winning film maker whose fiction has been likened to “a collaboration between Robert Ludlum and Carl Sagan.”

            President Obama may have submitted a fact sheet of biographic details but he did not write the finished bio that appears in the brochure. And that’s where Miriam Goderich comes into the picture, as she said,

            “You’re undoubtedly aware of the brouhaha stirred up by Breitbart about the erroneous statement in a client list Acton & Dystel published in 1991 (for circulation within the publishing industry only) that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me — an agency assistant at the time,” Goderich wrote. “There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more.”

            She may have confused the name Barack Hussein Obama who was born in Kenya with Barack Hussein Obama II was born in Hawaii.

            Between 1990 and 1999 there are almost twelve published articles or interviews about Barack Obama and all say he was born in Hawaii. The only one that says he was born in Kenya is the literary agent’s bio. And that was never meant to be seen by the general public, only a few publisher would have seen it.

            So for all the public articles he consistently says he was born in Hawaii and for the one not public article he says born in Kenya. Only a moron would believe that. This is why the birthers have been such failures – they can’t think like rational, normal people.

          • If I had said natural born citizen of the US instead would that have been better? Since Obama’s mother was born in 1942 neither of the 2 law requirements are applied to her. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986 or birth on or after November 14, 1986 , neither apply to her.

            Your statement “that Obama has forged identity documents..” isn’t backed up by any proof. Making a statement doesn’t make it the truth. Say hello to “Oily” Taitz for me.

          • Typical Libtard. You take laws and words and spin them or misrepresent them to suit your position… Did Obama’s mother run for POTUS in 2008? We are talking about OBAMA you tard. He was born in 1961.

          • P.S., never met or spoke to the woman… Say hello to her yourself you vile tard… Lose an argument and go straight to the Alinsky tactics. Typical Libtard.

            Plenty of evidence that Obama’s BC and Selective Service registration are both forgeries…

          • Straight to the Alinsky tactics? Well that’s ironic. So how did you come by your knowledge of these “Alinsky tactics”?

          • Where is this evidence you keep referring to? Oily Taitz was one of the 1st to start these issues. So all you are doing is parroting what she said. Talk about typical tactics, you trolls always resort to Alinsky when you have nothing to offer. So you trolls are the only ones to think that BC’s and Selective Service registration documents are fakes. I guess you are smarter than anyone in the McCain and Romney campaign organizations. Must be tough to be so intelligent.

          • Well you have the same conspiracy bs as her. “Plenty of evidence that Obama’s BC and Selective Service registration are both forgeries…” So why don’t you supply some that can be verified? You trolls are so inventive and creative with your name calling, gee “Libtard” you must have really dug deep for that one.

          • Obama’s mother was not old enough to confer US citizenship on the alleged date of Obama’s birth on August 4, 1861. She was 3 months and 26 days shy of her 19th birthday on Nov 29 to make him a citizen

          • In the first place, parents don’t “confer” US citizenship; US citizenship is conferred by the United States. If the requirements of the applicable statute are met, US citizenship can be TRANSMITTED through a US citizen parent to a child born outside the US. In the second place, for a person born in the United States, the nationality of the parents (with the exception provided by the Constitution for accredited diplomats) is irrelevant.

          • Parents do confer if U.S. Citizenship Law allows them to do it. In Obama’s mothers case, if he was born outside the jurisdiction of the U.S., she couldn’t due to the citizenship laws in 1961. Never the less, Obama was born a statutory citizen, not a Artcle 2 Section 1 natural born Citizen. A statutory citizen ( bestowed by man’s pen) can never be a Constitutional Article 2 Section 1 “natural born” Citizen (bestowed by God/nature).

          • Well, then you don’t know what “confer” means, do you? If parents could “confer” citizenship on their children, they could “confer” citizenship on ANYBODY. Only the UNITED STATES, and NO OTHER ENTITY, can confer United States citizenship. President Obama isn’t a “statutory citizen.” His citizenship is affirmed by the US Constitution, and depends on NO statute enacted by Congress.

          • If there was even the slightest possibility that the President’s credentials were fraudulent, the Republicans would have held hearings in the House on his eligibility. There has never been a single hearing on Obama’s eligibility and in 335 eligibility-related court actions, not one single judge has ever ruled that the president is not fully qualified for the office he holds under Article Ii, Section 1.

          • That may be true but he was born in Honolulu Hawaii the 50th state of the Union. He is and will be for the next 3+ years the duly elected president of the US. You can make any wild, unfounded claim but it will not change that fact.

          • That really doesn’t matter since he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii in 1961. That would make him a citizen by birth and therefore eligible to be president which he will for the next 2+ years.

          • What possible relevance could Arthur’s burning his papers before death (and not specifically “identity papers” whatever that means) have to his run for vice president.

            Obama has no forged identity documents. Birthers have forged intelligence.

          • President Arthur burn many of his papers before his death but the one document that he didn’t burn is his father’s naturalization papers. They are in the Library of Congress.

            If he was so concerned about his eligibility, why didn’t he burn the one document that according to you proves he was not eligible?

          • Obama’s mother was 18 when the President was born, so 5 years residence after age 14 would be impossible. Obama is only a citizen because he was born in the US.

          • So Obama aka Soetoro lied for 16 years by claiming he was born in Kenya… I think he was telling the truth then…. even the new Kenyan Parliament stated the same….

          • Every source on this says that Obama didn’t provide that information. You can lie as often as you want to, but it doesn’t alter the facts.

          • Get real fake doctor…. DAMAGE CONTROL… Plain and simple… I know it. And YOU know it…

          • Damage? Obama got re-elected and no one, I mean no one in Congress will give birthers the time of day.

            What I know is that 20 years from now, people will hardly remember birthers.

          • At least you are using a proper alias (Conspiracy). You trolls just can accept the fact that he is and will be for the next 3 years the duly elected president of the US. Live with it.

          • For further clarification, I voted for Obama twice and contributed to his campaign both times.

          • AKA Soetorobama seems to think so… that’s his modus operandi… That may be one of the few times he told the truth… :-/

          • Look in the mirror fake doctor and repeat the same words; “Repeating a lie doesn’t make it true.”

          • Lie? When did I ever die? Birthers call me a liar all the time, but when I try to get them to be specific, it’s crickets.

    • “Joshua Wisch, special assistant to Hawaii Attorney General David Louie, told The Associated Press in an email late Tuesday that the matter is resolved after Hawaii gave Arizona the verification it was looking for. Hawaii – which has vouched for Obama’s birth in the state several times as early as October 2008 – didn’t bow to the request easily. The Aloha State told Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett he had to prove he needed the records as part of normal business.”
      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/23/obamas-birth-certificate-hawaii_n_1538210.html
      Where did you get the documented proof of your U.S.P,S. assertion? Provide links other than Faux News, Drudge Report, Brietbart News, Alex Jones, and the rest of the tin foil groupies.
      Cruz’s father was a Cuban Citizen his mother was an American Citizen and Cruz was born in Canada, he is eligible to be President. President Obama’s father was a Kenyan Citizen, his mother was an American Citizen and Obama was born in Hawaii, but he is not eligible to be President. Even if your conspiracy theory were correct and Obama was not born in Hawaii, than his situation would be identical to Cruz – EXCEPT the color of his skin.

      • “…EXCEPT the color of his skin.”

        Therein lies the problem with the yahoos and rednecks around the Country but more especially within the huge concentration of them in Dupedom South, where the Klan mediocre mentality is alive and well to the delight of the plutocrats and their loyal propagandists and stooges. It’s clear that the Southern Strategy is here to stay now and into the future election cycles.

    • So how did Cruz’s mom ever hook up with a Cuban national in Canada anyway? Maybe she isn’t his mother. Or maybe she is a Canadian who has faked her American citizenship. Has anyone done any DNA testing to prove that Cruz’s parents are his real parents? And about his dad. I’v heard that he is not Cuban, but an undercover agent for the Mexican drug cartel that wants to have their man in the White House, so they sent Cruz to Canada to impregnate an American woman so he could come to the US to pretend to be a preacher when he is actually running high test pot from Mexico. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it!

    • Another moron jumping into the fray. It’s over finished finito, move on Obama’s 2nd. term will be over in 2 yrs. America did not collapse and we have the Affordable Healthcare Act for millions of Americans ain’t that great ? Swallow that Cruz ! I hope you choke with Obamacare.

      • This moron’s been in the fray. The Cold Case Posse used him to narrate their wacky videos. Just more proof that that nonsense never was an honest enterprise.

    • I’ll confine myself at present to just one of your lies, Gill the Shill: Cruz was nearly old enough to be president when his father finally became an American citizen.

    • Mark, Hawaii’s law for certified letters of verification states that verifications “shall be considered for all purposes certification that the vital event did occur and that the facts of the event are as stated by the applicant.” §338-14.3 (b)

      On Arizona’s letter of verification, Dr. Onaka verified that the President was born at “Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital”. Under what scenario could the grandmother give an affidavit that said he was born at KM&GH?

  2. Donald may want to check Ted’s birth certificate before pumping more money into a person who is ineligible for the Presidency.

      • I find you to be quite the barbarian. You need to hope you don’t go spouting this garbage in public around someone like me. That is our President. You don’t like him, fine, stop disrespecting the Office of the President. No true American talks like that.

  3. Cruz has American mother, born in Canada. Eligible

    Obama has American mother, born in US. Non-eligible.

    Where is the logic???

    • We don’t know where Obama was born. A sloppily cut and pasted together LFBC in the form of a pdf file isn’t evidence of anything. Having said that, having been corrected on Cruz’s parentage, I know longer believe he or Obama is eligible.

      • The Obama conspiracy theory was a great attempt by the right wing to win the election. It didn’t work, but they can’t let it go. If Obama had not been eligible to be president, the Clinton’s would have discovered that. You can bet that they vetted him thoroughly.

          • The original long form birth certificate is in the office safe of Dr. Alvin T. Onaka, the Hawaii state Registrar, according to Fox News. If anyone wants to see it or inspect it, they need to get an order from a judge according to Hawaii Revised Statutes 338-18(b).

          • Isn’t that convenient. No PUBLIC record to be shared for everyone to see. The most transparent President ever……LOLOLOL What a lying, cheating, hypocrite. Do you know that a rich CORPORATE (yes on your side) Green businessman in California just donated 1 billion + 1 billion more to prevent the Keystone pipeline from going in. Don’t you see it….This country is dying and becoming more socialist all the time. The Greenies in Europe are losing power. People are sick of them over there.
            ….and you would blame the Koch Brothers here. LOL

            Being in Communist Europe was like going back into the Dark Ages 50 years.

            Those electric cars you people are promoting are run by power created by nuclear and fuel generated power plants. Oh, and that is next on Obama’s agenda….shutting down some of the coal plants so that next year people in the East will have to freeze to death. What a bunch of senseless idiots you are. You don’t even realize the consequences of your actions.

            Yah, we have to sign it, to see what’s in it….. That’s your mentality.

          • As a Texan, we don’t want our land, air and water destroyed by this Titanic mess. It will never be built in Texas because we know the possibilities and if there is one thing that Texas doesn’t have is clean land, air and water. Anymore pollution down here and it will be unlivable. They built it all across Missouri with most of the populace totally unaware of it. When that pipeline breaks, 1500 natural springs will be forever polluted. You cannot remove the fracking fluid from water and the lethal mix in those pipelines are full of the most toxic materials in the world. Goodbye Lake of the Ozarks, Current River, Black River, Clear Lake, Johnsons Shut Ins and Wappapella Lake . . .

          • You are a despicable racist who needs a spanking. If you were my child, you would be living in the doghouse out back. Lowlife scum like you make me wonder why someone hasn’t gotten you mental healthcare by now.

          • No, now we are talking about his wife being a man. LOL that one really cracked me up. There is a video out proving it scientifically. It appears the first Lady is a “First transvestite”.

          • The CCP hasn’t come up with any evidence. When Mario Apuzzo presented CCP materials in an actual courtroom, here’s what the judge said:

            “We’re off the far end here in terms of legal evidence in a legal proceeding, not a press conference, not a political rally, in a legal proceeding.”

            A goofy mess of rumor, hearsay, misinformation, bad science and outright lies may be good enough for stirring up the base and raking in some cash from gullible donors, but it ain’t anything like evidence where it really counts.

          • Yes the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office CCP has come up with evidence. They have proven the birth certificate released on April 27, 2011 was a 100% forgery. That was confirmed by Hawaii court recognized handwriting and computer-generated forensic document expert Reed Hayes, a man with impeccable credentials in the professional field of doing attestations. Also show proof of what direct evidence of the MCSOCCP Apuzzo presented to the court.

          • So where would one find this evidence?

            Reed Hayes is a “computer-generated forensic document expert”? Reed Hayes is a graphologist. He can, I suppose, look at your signature and tell if it’s your signature, and if you’ve stopped wetting the bed or if you still hate your father, but what does that have to do with being a “computer-generated forensic document expert”?
            What, exactly, did Reed Hayes have to say about it? And feel free to provide a reference to his ACTUAL statement. If they’ve “proven” anything, why haven’t they done ANYTHING about it?

          • The Reed Hayes report has never been released. Why is that? Is the only proof you have a report that nobody has seen?

          • Because the investigation has not been declared over by Sheriff Arpaio. Use common sense. Why would you expose some of your best evidence proving forgery in a investigation to the opposition?

          • Arpaio’s running away from that nonsense as fast as his stubby little legs will carry him. If he can help it, he’s not going to say ANYTHING about it.

            And common sense? How in the world would common sense tell you that that circus* is being conducted anything like a law enforcement investigation?

            *Arpaio himself said, speaking of the Cold Case Posse “investigation,”

            “They call it a circus, which is an insult to the dedicated people that work for circuses.”

          • If your suggestion were true, then why did the Cold Case Posse hold three press conferences at which they presented “evidence”?

            You can’t argue that the Cold Case Posse turning 180 degrees in how it operates is somehow normal. And I cannot forget that everything they presented at those three press conferences fell apart under scrutiny.

            So not only is it unreasonable to try to justify their silence in the light of their shouting before, it is unreasonable to think that they would come up with something true when everything to date has been false.

            No rational person would expect anything useful from the Cold Case Posse.

          • Reed Hays own CV shows he has no expertise in digital documents. His report was written before the Xerox proof showed that there was no forgery. Does Hays still support his earlier conclusion after the Xerox proof showed that the layers were not human manipulation? Why won’t the CCP release the report? Why have they gagged Hays?

          • Please provide any professional credentials of the people who did the failed zerox experiment.

          • You first. Provide the professional credentials of your “computer-generated forensic document expert.”

          • “The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.” Dr. Neal Krawetz, PhD in computer science, fornesic image analyst

          • No, I mean evidence of an authentic birth certificate…. Don’t you think if he were on the up and up he would have been more than happy to show it when it was asked for? He didn’t so that makes me and others very suspicious.

          • He released a valid and perfectly adequate birth certificate before he was even nominated; but you ankle-biters couldn’t handle the facts then, and you can’t handle them now.

          • Ask Donald Trump. If he couldn’t prove it with all his money, don’t you think you might be wrong?

          • We already covered this issue. I definitely will let you know when I am wrong.

            Ignorance is bliss. Probably older than you….just a bit too educated I suppose.

          • I suppose it makes them feel superior… The joke is on them… the Potato speaks the truth… We all know tardos can’t handle the truth….

          • It wasn’t meant as a compliment. I’ve read your comments and the proof as you perceive it. Mr. potatohead what you call proof I call opinion and opinions are like a-holes everybodys got one.

          • Well Doc, I’m not going against what the vast majority of forensic document experts have to say… The LFBC was found to be fraudulent in less than 24 hrs after it was posted… Good luck defending treason and other assorted felonies… If you have any real skin in the game you might want to visit Brazil or something… hahahahehehe

          • There is not a single forensic document expert who has published any report saying the PDF is a fake. Several credentialed experts have said you can’t call it fake. Two have published reports. Ivan Zatkovich and Neal Krawetz.

            Reed Hayes says it’s a fake, but hasn’t published any report. He’s not credentialed in electronic documents anyway, but Krawetz and Zatkovich are.

          • Sure it can, but the verifications of Obama’s place of birth went straight from the Department of Health to the secretaries of state of Arizona and Kansas, who released them. Are you saying that secretaries Bennett and Kobach Photoshopped the verifications.

            You should visit the Hawaii Department of Health web site and read all the documentation there.

            http://health.hawaii.gov/vitalrecords/faq-obama/

            At some point a story (birthers) falls apart so badly and is so crazy that it can’t be patched up any more. There is only so much duct tape in the world.

          • Fine and dandy then you proved your case. I’m still somewhat skeptical but I appreciate the facts.

            On the other hand, Cruz’s mother was a US citizen and father became one in 2005. I do know that once you marry an American you are allowed to stay in the Country. Ted Cruz had a dual citizenship. He renounced his Canadian so that he could run for office.

            Similarly, Obama’s mother was a US citizen and his father African. Only difference is that Cruz’s parents were working in Canada when Cruz was born.

            Similar circumstances. I really don’t see why Ted Cruz cannot run for office. Obama did. So what’s fair on one side should be fair on the other. That’s how I see it.

            They are both American citizens now. The only way I feel this would not be justified is if the person was running for office who did not have any form of citizenry.

          • In case my comments were not clear, I think that Cruz is constitutionally eligible to become President, but I’d never vote for him.

          • You did make your comments perfectly clear and I understood everything you stated. However, with one exception, I would vote for Cruz if he ran. He stands for many things I believe in and he has a similar background:)

          • No

            Afghanistan: Do you support United States’ combat operations in Afghanistan?

            Yes

            Budget: In order to balance the budget, do you support reducing defense spending?

            No

            Budget: In order to balance the budget, do you support an income tax increase on any tax bracket?

            No

            Economy: Do you support federal spending as a means of promoting economic growth?

            Yes

            Economy: Do you support providing tax incentives to businesses for the purpose of job creation?

            No

            Education: Do you support requiring states to implement education reforms in order to be eligible for competitive federal grants?

            Yes

            Energy: Do you support reducing restrictions on offshore energy production?

            No

            Environment: Do you support the federal regulation of greenhouse gas emissions?

            No

            Guns: Do you support restrictions on the purchase and possession of guns?

            Yes

            Health Care: Do you support repealing the 2010 Affordable Care Act?

            Yes

            Immigration: Do you support requiring illegal immigrants to return to their country of origin before they are eligible for citizenship?

            Yes

            Social Security: Do you support allowing individuals to divert a portion of their Social Security taxes into personal retirement accounts?

          • Its not whether you would vote for him, its whether you would vote for Hillary, “sold out to a foreign country”, Clinton. That is the more dangerous question.

          • Mainly because Cruz is an idiot. Ask most any Texan. We never even heard of this man before he was put here with unlimited funds to spread his manure. I know of no one that voted for him. I have to wonder about the voting system here in Texas.

          • You must be one of the ‘Austinite’ Liberals that I hear about. Every Conservative that i talk to online who resides in Texas has nothing but good to say about him. They say he is a man of his word. You probably had never heard of him because you pledge to the other side.

          • Actually after spending a few months there, I am thinking about spending more time there.
            It was Romney that owned a voter machine manufacturing company, wasn’t it? I am the most conservative person I know. I am just not wealthy enough to enjoy the many perks of corporate welfare. You don’t want to plan a life in Texas. They’ve no water. No water, no life. Got it yet? And did you see Carl Rove when he was informed they lost? IMPOSSIBLE. That reaction was one I’ve seen before and recognize that look of bewilderment. PRICELESS.

          • By all means…come to the looney bin. As far as I know it is still a free Country for Liberals. Beautiful state, politics suck! Corporate welfare? That is something that your side knows extremely well because your side created it.

            Read this. It is an eye opener…..

            http://nikitas3.com/1083/why-are-so-many-rich-people-liberals/

            Your Conservative! You don’t even know what that is. Nope! Can’t say I saw Rove’s reaction. Besides…he’s a RINO something we Conservatives are aware of. You can tell me what you like both sides are playing us for fools.

            Like many you are a sheeple. Just going along with what’s en’vogue. Little do you realize what damage you are doing to what this Country once was.

            Yah, come to California. The more idiots the merrier. But one thing I need to warn you about, it’s not cheap to live here. You don’t have to worry about corporate welfare come and enjoy all the perks of WELFARE. Most people are barely making it…thanks to all the freebies given to the Hispanics, ‘uber’ environmental restrictions, high gas prices, exorbitant food costs, taxes, taxes, taxes and social programs enacted by Governor Moonbeam (who by the way took the state into a cesspool the first time he was in office) and, of course, who can forget the ludicrous policies of lame brains like Pelooser and Feinstab. It’s a wonderful state. You will fit right in. Just make sure you stay within the confines of SF and LA. There are too many Conservatives for your liking anywhere else.

          • That is happening all over the country in both parties. They have been taken over by a foreign country and both candidates for President are owned by that foreign country. Bush had 32 Dual Israeli citizens in his administration and they continued on in the Obama administration. AIPAC runs America, and we should stand together against them right now. both left and right, and kick them out of here like Iceland and Argentina did after prosecuting them and throwing those convicted in jail and the rest had to leave the country and Ireland is in the process of doing the same thing as we speak. They are in the middle of their banker trials. If we don’t then we will have a “dark ages” the likes of which the world has never seen before.

          • Perhaps the answer lies in less power to the states where many have been taken over by the wealthiest in the state, backed by the wealthiest in the country, who are backed by the wealthiest in the world. We are doing just fine with a President who is for the people. This constant warring is draining us of precious resources we cannot replace.

          • Kind of like a community organizer from Chicago? Maybe if the Emperor acted just a little bit like an American there would not be so many questions. Instead he shows that his values are more closely aligned with communist and Muslim ideologies.

          • FDR was working on the Second Bill of Rights for Americans and if FDR hadn’t died, Americans would not still be fighting for healthcare. Is he a Communist or Muslim? You obviously have no basis for your statements. There’s nothing out there for you to base your statements on. Look up the words and find out what they mean. You obviously have been listening to news SHOWS. These programs are not real news. They make up half or all of what they say. Often outright lies, bought and paid for by management. Even CNN has recently been putting out garbage. New owners? Can’t keep up with it. There used to be over 88 owners of the media and now I understand there are 8. They make up the news and substantiate it with NEW SHOWS. They are not Walter Cronkite. They are entertainment shows with blonde, big busted Stepford Wives reading from scripts with no concept of what they are speaking.

          • Most of the news groups are run by our government and the liberals. I have been pleasantly surprised that CNN has started to actually question this regime and its lawlessness.

          • You mean the GOP regime? I agree. There inability to run this country has been proven over and over again. The entire Party is over.

          • Actually, there is an anachronistic provision in our Constitution (appropriate for the days when we were a tiny new country that could be taken over by some German Count) requiring natural born citizenship. By the traditional definition used over the years, both Ted Cruz and Barack Obama are legally qualified, AS IS any 35 year old Vietnamese GI baby who came here as a child to live with his or her American father, OR an American-born child of an illegal immigrant, upon reaching 35. EITHER parent an American citizen at the child’s birth, OR the child born in the USA or a US territory, makes the child a natural born citizen.

            The “birthers” try to parse words carefully so as to MAKE the Constitution say what it does NOT say (or else the Supreme Court would have made a decision; they are not exactly shy about doing so): that BOTH the child’s parents must be citizens; that BOTH parental citizenship AND birth on US soil is necessary, or that having one parent who COULD enable the child to claim dual citizenship is a disqualification, or some other legal loophole makes the candidate they do not like unqualified.

            Chester Arthur’s birthplace in Maine was close to the Canadian border (although both parents were Americans), and not very accurately mapped, causing his opponents to charge him with foreign citizenship.

            When Barry Goldwater ran in 1964, there were some accusations that, since his birthplace, Arizona, was only a TERRITORY when he was born (Arizona was the 48th state admitted in 1912), he was not a citizen.

            Using the “born on US soil” argument, the charge COULD have been made in 2008 that John McCain was born in Panama, since the Canal Zone was only RENTED from Panama (which is why President Carter and his Congress had no other honorable option but to “give it away,” since the lease was up and we were only tenants). Of course, both his parents were US citizens anyway.

            But NONE of these other complaints were taken seriously by anyone except the “birthers” who wanted a pseudo-legal excuse to disqualify the first President they just could not stand.

            I believe the Constitution should be amended to allow a LONG TERM naturalized citizen with LONG TERM continuous US residency (numbers can be decided later) to become President or Vice President, just to remove the hassle of disputing these questions. Henry Kissinger would have been qualified, as would Madelaine Albright. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Ariana Huffington could vie for their opposing parties’ nominations. Ted Cruz would have no “birther” questions, so we could concentrate on his disastrous policies.

            How about it? We are too big now for a foreign king or noble to have any chance of “taking over” our country by running for President. Let’s grant naturalized citizens, who have CHOSEN America over the land of their birth, the ONE LAST PRIVILEGE of being a citizen, at least in theory.

          • I agree with you on most counts, however; I do not agree with your points regarding LONG TERM citizens who are not LEGAL. People who are born here, I agree with because it is Constitutional.

            We simply cannot handle the burden of everyone and their mother who want to waltz themselves over the border, and be allowed all the privileges that a citizen enjoys when it is extremely difficult for people who want to come over here legally, and are denied entry.

          • Tell that to the assassinated registrar in Hawaii who suffered the same fate as Wellstone who was murdered as was JFK Jr. Who do you think did this and why? Obama’s handlers did it to cover up more than just the birth certificate….. as we are discovering right now. I hate to tell you this but there are a lot of democrats that feel the same way as the tea baggers do about Obama….. I know, I am one of them.

          • How dumb are the Republicans if they can’t prove these assertions and they are real?

          • What a bunch of sheeple you are if you believe everything those lunatics in the White House have to say…..Oh, and need I say….MSNBC

          • I don’t have to listen to what ‘they’ say, I read and investigate to get the facts and once you get to know the actors, the scripts are easier to read.

          • Honey, Pegasus has a clue. Don’t give me that bull about reading and investigating. What! Actors are just actors. They play a part. They get into a roll which makes them fake. So how do you know whether the script is real or not. The actors certainly are not.

          • I know the ending. It’s not difficult to see who is acting for the people or for themselves.

          • …..And the walls of Jericho are beginning to fall…..by your last comment I see you are most likely referring to yourself? July 1st……..LOL

          • I never claimed to be a doctor, and in fact I am very specific about my academic credentials on my blog.

            http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/visitor-guide/about-dr-conspiracy/

            I have been completely open and honest. Birthers, however, have chased so many charlatans and gotten in bed with so many liars, that they no longer know integrity when they see it.

            As for specifics, there are thousands of articles on my blog.

        • Doesn’t matter since evidence proves what was released is a forgery. Full Faith & Credit does not apply since THEIR IS SUSTANTVE INDICA AND EVIDENCE OF FRAUD as in the case of Obamas purported certificate of live birth that was fabricated on the White House website. It is therefore subject to adjudicatory authentication.

          • For an administration that was supposed to be transparent, the Emperor sure seems to want to keep ALL his records sealed. Why is that? Perhaps because his whole background is fabricated? When his birth place was questioned, all of a sudden there was a flood of information on his background, much of which contradicted each other. Too quick and too many mistakes to be real.

          • If there was one bit of truth to it, Trump would have trumpeting it across the world. What a fool he made of himself. Surprising he’d even open his mouth again.

      • You are not competent to judge the authenticity of Obama’s birth certificate, and by “you” I mean every birther who has ever made the argument. Your pooled ignorance proves nothing but your own incompetence. Further, your characterization of the evidence that Obama was born in Kenya is disingenuous. You know better, and to leave the impression that a PDF file on the White House web site is all the evidence there is, is downright dishonest.

    • There is no logic in the GOP that’s why is called the stupid party. But one explanation could be that President Obama is black and cubano Cruz looks white.

      • What kind of idiot are you anyway. Maybe you should visit sites like GOPUSA and see how stupid Conservatives are not.

        ….And by the way dope head. I voted for Obama in 2008. It had nothing to do with race. I HATE HIS POLICIES AND SOCIALIST AGENDA…..

          • Cussing at me again. You know it serves no real purpose because you have nothing to inject. A typical Liberal response…..

        • His policies has kept this country safe, wall street prosperous ,Banking industry Sound , Automobile industry Sound , yet you say he has done nothing ? Maybe you need to check yourself ?????

          • Hahahaa, proof he was right. Go get yourself an education. Your arguing skills are reflective of your education level. None at all. Now THAT is why we are in so damn much trouble. No Critical Thinking skills.

          • Seriously! Safe from what. There are more murders per capita than there ever were before….and all the mass shootings? …and don’t blame it on the guns. We have always had them. It is our lax liberal laws and the disintegration of society in general that have created more crime.

            Banking industry…LOL what planet are you from? More worthless money is printed everyday to keep our economy falsely bloated. Russia and China are refusing to use the dollar. Devaluation….no gold backing….I’m just waiting for that collapse.

            Automobile industry….must I remind you on the bailouts. GM recalls….GM will soon be no more. How expensive are cars nowadays. Not to mention the electric boondoogle. Electric cars really on fuel and nuclear power plants….Not only that, a new mileage tax is staring us in the face. Gas in our state is up to 4.25 a gallon.

            Maybe you need to check yourself….What an idiot!

          • Gas is up! What a surprise! And you blame the President for that? Where you born yesterday? And the President didn’t take this country off the gold standard. Where do you get your information. Infomercials. Go to the library and get an education before you spout this garbage. The Republicans are brainwashing you. They say the sky is red and you will believe that too?

          • Fat chance, buddy. My Dad lived through what is happening now. It’s just history repeating itself. I don’t have to go to anything to know what’s happening. I know this from someone who has been there done that. Republicans are not brainwashing me. Most Conservatives/Libertarians are skeptics we question everything nowadays. Even our own party…

            I have an education that’s why I am so vocal. Maybe you need to go back and do some research and prove me wrong…….

          • Actually, a Republican President got Congress to pass legislation that took us off the gold standard: Richard Nixon. Oh wait, I forgot that to the Tea Party he was a Democrat, right?

          • Oh but…..there was no Tea Party at the time. Guess Obummer sold out all our gold to the Chinese……

          • No, Obummer sold out all our gold to Switzerland, 57 tons of gold were just shipped to ROTHSCHILDS BIS and they are melting it down to store for themselves in China’s 2000 ton vault. That is what Obama supporters get for listening to the banker owned MSM.

          • Wrong…. FDR took us off without an act of congress, but then since, it was done, someone had to make it legal, so Kissinger went ahead and made Nixon sign it to cover Kissingers, FDR butt.

          • Yes, no one else can sign a tax bill except the president. Who else do you think can sign such a bill?

          • HUH? What country do you live in? Oh, my Gawd, no wonder we are in such trouble. I can’t believe there is such a …… oh, wait….. a khazar banker troll…… thanks for reminding me. Phew, for a minute there I though this guy was crazy. Ask the 50 million seniors and permanently handicapped that got their food stamps cut. I am sure they will disagree with you. Ask the mothers and families of the 78,000 soldiers who have died in bogus wars used to generate profits for the “Khazar/Rothschild/Israeli” bankers corporations. Now don’t try to tell us that Middle East was a direct threat to our national interests, therefore we had to kill over 1 million Muslims in Iraq and elsewhere in the middle east such as Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, cause, I won’t believe you.

          • Really,

            Here are some Communist Party goals. Compare them to Barack Obama’s and you decide if he is trying to destroy America.

            -Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
            -Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
            -Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind.
            -Get control of the schools. Use them for socialism and Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
            -Infiltrate the press. Get control of editorial writing, policy-makingpositions. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
            -Continue discrediting American culture.
            -Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.
            -Break down cultural standards of morality in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
            -Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion.
            -Discredit the American Constitution [as] inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs…
            -Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”
            -Belittle, discourage the teaching of American history.
            -Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture–education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
            -Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
            -Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
            -Discredit the family as an institution.
            -This is a hard copy blueprint of where Barack Obama is taking us and how he will get us there. His mentor, Saul Alinsky, would be proud of
            the destructive nature of his political “son.”

            The entire list of the ACP’s 45 goals for destroying America can be found here.

            http://rense.com/general32/americ.htm

            Read more at http://www.westernjournalism.com/is-obama-following-the-communist-blueprint

            …..his anti-colonial agenda is killing us. Go for it. Keep it up. You have no clue what you are doing to this once great democracy.

            /#orUyLfLaqvfWH8XP.99

      • Aaaah, a khazar troll. Racism won’t work on this one buddy. We learned from the bankers that racism is used only to hide truth and facts. When we get too close to the truth, the screaming starts, “RACIST, BIGOT, forget the facts, since he is black.” AHHH, No, I don’t think so, not this time around.

    • Obama has American mother, born in Kenya:) Prove otherwise! What comes round goes round…..

      Good for Trump:) Huge Cruz fan…..

    • Cruz has American mother, born in Canada. Eligible
      Obama has American mother, born in US. Non-eligible.
      Where is the logic???

      That there, my friend, is called Teabagger “logic”.

    • There is a trial going on in Britain right now with high up official who spilled the beans on what Britain calls “national security” issues. It appears he leaked that Obama’s mother is not his mother based on DNA tests of both Obama, and his grandfather on his mothers side. No match. Hows that for strange. If he is a clone, then he is a USA citizen. How is that for a fluke. LOL

  4. It does make sense in the baggers eyes….Obama born of a US mother not legal….Cruze born in Canada of a Canadian mother….legal……..yep it makes perfect sense……??

  5. Sorry America, sorry for sending this fool to the senate. Texans had no idea they where sending this one trick pony to congress. He’s done absolutely nothing for our people. The stats show the poor can barely afford to pay for food,, millions of Texans without health insurance but he runs around the country railing against the ACA. I’m more concerned with his impeding the ACA (a waste of time) than I am his birth place. Yes, I do hear how Tx produces a lot of jobs but since TX is a right to work state (right to work for less) most are min. wage jobs, these jobs are subsidized with tax abatements and guess who’s paying for that ? Clue; it’s not Perry not Cruz

    • Hmmm, are you a Texan because if you are then you are the first ‘yahoo’ that I have heard condemn the man. All of whom I have talked with have said he’s authentic. At least we know about his mother being a Canadian. No hiding the evidence there…. No lies.

        • When you live in a Communist country you have no choice but to fight that way otherwise you will be killed. I can totally relate to Cruz. My parents came over here from Communist Europe. There were many atrocities in WWII. If you went against the government you were eliminated. Cruz’s father told Ted exactly what mine told me and that is how bad communism is. That is why he is so pro-American and Constitution. I am the same way.

          My father also told me that what we are getting politically today, in this country, is no different than what he left. If you think this is still a democracy with ‘uber’ freedom then guess again. I am just trying to inform you before it is too late. If you don’t care then be prepared for the Government owning your soul, and you, losing everything you have……..

          • When he fought with Castro it was to overthrow the Cuban government which was not communist. In fact the Batista government was pro-American.

          • No, but he was already against one dictator (Batista) and, as a young man, he was too young and naive to realize to what lengths Castro would go. He thought he was fighting for freedom. Thought that what Castro was doing was just because Batista was oppressive. Similar to how the kids of today view Obama. They think he is cool. Little do they know….. Either way, Raphael was a rebel going up against a suppressing regime. My father experienced the same sort of thing only he like Raphael did not like what he saw. Before the situation could get any worse, he left Europe. As I am assuming Raphael left Cuba. Their stories are very similar and I understand what happened. So the press can twist all they want I know they are wrong. The proof is in the pudding. My father raised me the same way as Raphael Cruz raised his son. He loathes Communism as I do.

            “Ted Cruz said his father described himself as among young teenage boys who fought Batista and allied with Castro’s forces because “they didn’t know Castro was a Communist, what they knew was that Batista was a cruel and oppressive dictator.”

            http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/2011/10/ted-cruz-background-as-son-of.html/

          • So what did your comment, “When you live in a Communist country you have no choice but to fight that way otherwise you will be killed” have to do with Rafael Cruz?

      • I recent being called a yahoo Slo- Joe. What’s authentic about a senator who no sooner was elected is traveling the country telling everyone he wants to deny health care for Americans fallen on hard times. Repeal Obamacare he says but gives no answers as to what he would do. The man has no plan. Many Texans are in dire straits you would think he’d be laser focused on alleviating problems for these folks, he’s done nothing.
        Now I hear he wants to abolish the IRS, OK but who’s going to collect the taxes to pay our bills and keep our democracy going. The problem here in TX (sorry to say) is people here vote republican doesn’t matter if Cruz was born in Timbuktu.

        • You resent (sp) being called a Yahoo. LOL, I’ve been called worse and I can take it because I really don’t care. No biggy.

          You Liberals….what don’t you get. Why do you think Conservatives are so heartless. We aren’t.

          Honestly, I don’t believe Obamacare will be repealed for some time if ever. I also believe our health care will be less than stellar. Remember many people used to come from different countries just to be treated here because of our supreme health care. There will be less incentive to develop and create. Health care will be much like Europe’s which is OK but not that great. Waiting in line for appointments, transplants, cancer treatment etc… are what we have to look forward to. You will have to resolve yourself to that. You’ll see. Those who can afford it will go to private doctors while the rest of us have no choice. It’s a loser but you got what you wanted. Things may change if they get bad enough. I know the European system. My Mother’s best friend and her husband were doctors. They built a private clinic because mainstream healthcare was not all that great. But again, you’ll see.

          Let’s get rid of the IRS and implement a Consumption tax. Here’s how:

          “Americans desperately want a fairer tax system and relief from arbitrary treatment by the IRS. True reform requires simply junking the personal and corporate incomes in favor of a consumption tax.

          House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Dave Camp estimates tax filing, recordkeeping and the like amount to $168 billion a year — a
          terrible waste exceeding 10 percent of the taxes collected. Much of the personal information revealed is a terrible invasion of privacy, and the
          constant fear the IRS will audit taxpayers for their political activities is outright tyranny.

          The tax code is riddled with special interest provisions that favor rich donors to political campaigns, distort business decisions and
          consumer choices, and handicap economic growth and job creation.

          “Businesses and institutions would then pay to the Treasury the taxes they collected less sales taxes paid on purchases of materials and equipment, rent and the like. This subtraction would avoid the double taxation of materials and equipment businesses purchase and create a value-added tax often proposed by advocates of reform.

          It would end forever all the headaches associated with valuing inventories, calculating depreciation on capital equipment and other work that cost billions in accounting and legal fees.

          A VAT would favor no activity over another, and by taxing goods and services at the point of sale, it would end the problem of U.S. firms parking profits abroad to avoid taxes.

          Businesses and institutions would file a three-line return: how much tax they collected, how much they paid and the difference. Individuals
          would file no tax return at all!

          Temptations would abound to exclude or exempt all kinds of activities, but that is the kind of thinking that gave us the current mess — and inequities, slow growth and exceedingly complex tax returns.

          Two problems remain. A VAT is not progressive — it taxes rich and poor consumers at the same rate. The elderly, who more or less live on savings, have already paid income taxes on those savings and would be
          taxed again.

          A simple solution would be to raise the rate to 15 percent and award each parent $4,000 for each child and pay similar amounts to each
          American over 65.

          If Congress wants to spend more, it could raise the rate further. That would make transparent to all the cost of spending more on government activities. If conservatives on Capitol Hill want to cut programs, they could explain to voters how much those savings would lower the rate.

          Elegant, egalitarian and efficient, such a value-added tax without exemptions would give Americans the tax reforms they want but
          privileged, rich folks and big businesses spend a fortune avoiding.

          The economy would grow faster and create more jobs, and Americans would live better and in less fear. And that is what America is supposed to be
          about.”

          Sounds like a win win to me……and it makes the Corporations that both camps have no use for pay, pay, pay…. It just sounds like too much sense.

          • WOW it doesn’t take much to get you spinning. !st. as a prerequisite to being a conservative you have to be heartless. Everything you list has been a constant in Washington for decades. There are too many special interests that’s why they can’t come to a consensus. So unless you are a mover and a shaker all your rhetoric is pointless. Go find a hobby, go travel enjoy your life.

          • Not possible on my salary:)

            So what’s wrong with the above ideology. I suppose you even have to condemn me for making too much sense.

          • Very presumptuous of you, however, its not condemnation, I said it is pointless for the reasons stated.

          • Really, Suppose you want the east coast poor and downtrodden to freeze to death next winter because all their fuel plants are being closed up tight? That’s heartless. Not! I believe in taking care of our poor first. You all don’t even seem to care.

            Seriously, Obama releasing felons and criminals from prison. What about the safety of our fellow Americans.

            ….and I might add…the most generous donations are provided by Conservative Middle-Class chruch goers…. Look it up if you don’t believe me….and that’s heartless. Your full of crap.

          • Why not just use a flat tax and turn the IRS to finding out where our tax dollars are spent?

        • The state of Texas pays a small fortune for my stomach meds but if I could get more than $15 a month in food stamps, I wouldn’t be thirty pounds underweight. And every trip to a hospital costs even more money that the state pays. These people are cruel and deliberate in their attempts to kill us off one by one.

      • No one I know voted for him. And there aren’t that many rich Texans that could have voted him in. Who is this man? We never heard of him before he was voted in. Just like Senator Cornyn, they are not Texans and were placed there by the GOP who gerrymandered our state. Remember DeLay. His district was created by cherrypicking the GOP areas. Look where he is now. We will get rid of this snake in the grass.

        • Honey, your state is the one where all Conservatives want to move. I guess so you can feel the way we do in California. Only reversed…. Big states, switched opinions.

          It’s a case of he said she said. We are being fed the same bullshit on both ends of the political aisle…..

    • Each day in Texas, there are 10,000 Texans waiting for a callback from the state food stamp program. And most will be refused or given $15 a month. 70% of food stamp recipients are children, the elderly and disabled but our Governor would rather refuse us healthcare and food to eat. Most elderly receive less than a thousand a month and they qualify for $15 a month in food stamps. They suggest we go beg for food at churches and pantries. I have called Senator Cruz’s office hundreds of times and not once has anyone called with assistance. No one I know voted for him. Could it be that Texas is buying Romney voting machines? He showed up out of nowhere and now he’s supposed to be our Senator? He is writing to wealthy backers in other states and asking for their opinion but he can’t give me one callback?

      • Thank you, thank you thank you Mama you vindicate me I thought I was the only one seeing this. I’ve called his office too, to sound off to his staff only to be told he is busy as chicken little running around the country hollering “repeal Obamacare”.
        I’m happy you state facts which I don’t have, I’m only aware of the adversity facing our state residents.
        I used to get angry with my fellow state residents for voting republican now I feel sorry for them, blinded by hatred of Obama they vote against their own self interests.
        As for Cruz, it’s like this mama you can dress a rhesus monkey in a suit & tie and pin a button on his lapel that says “Conservative Republican” run him for office and wa-la Texans will vote for him. It’s pathetic, I’m telling you, do you know we rank around 32nd in per capita income. You and I know more about our State than Cruz ever will.

  6. Obama is already in his second year of his last four years as a President of this country but the birther still having their hangouts over Obama’s American born legality and his legality as a President of this country. What a waist my friends.

    • You would think so because in 2 years he is outta there. Reason for this….Cruz is winding his way to candidacy….. Not saying he will win. If we get Killary or Jeb we might as well kiss our a** goodbye.

      • You are such a drama queen. You must be a lonely pathetic loner spending your days late into the night thinking of responses to all your critics. All for what, you can’t change a single mind in case you haven’t noticed.

        • LOL….not really. You have no clue as to who I am. I am certainly not lonely or a loner.

          One of the reasons I’m here is because I am standing up and I am defending my liberty. I am executing my 1st Amendment right. We the Conservatives are sick of being stripped of our American uniqueness by your Imperialist God who undermines our Constitution weekly.

          At the moment….politics stand in your corner. Can’t wait until this whole scheming charade hits the fan and you all are affected by this Communist brain fall which we the Conservatives are way too aware of. Oh, and of course, I am waiting with baited breath for the total annihilation of the dollars value.

          By the way, I really don’t give a flying ‘F’ if I change a single mind. My intention is only to make you aware. Right now I realize you don’t give a sh*%, but one of these days some of you may think back at the forewarning I precluded in my statements and you might just realize that my rambling was all for not….. Not that your comatose minds will make sense of it all:)

          • Did I peg you correctly or not ? You stay up late thinking about how to respond and yes you are pathetic, however, understand this, I love liberty too, you and I are not that different but you decided to box yourself in with your ideology now you believe you have all the answers so you stick all these labels on people then throw stones at them. Really, Joe what is unique about you and what constitutional rights did we lose overnight. I didn’t even know I had an Imperialist God, honest, I’ve never heard the term is this something you conjured up in your late night sessions. You will understand if I don’t engage in the rest of your silliness also I do understand much of what’s going on but forgive me that I won’t be taking your advice as info for me to relay on.

  7. Would I be surprised by Mr. Trump’s actions and donations? Of course, not all, one way or another, he is the kind of guy who always wants to stay and remain in the limelight of things, specially, when it comes to the Government and Obama’s issues.

  8. I stand corrected on Cruz having two American parents. Nevertheless, there is no suspicion of Cruz falsifying his records. I stand by my comment that Obama’s LFBC and SS Reg. Card are forged. Also, if Cruz had one non-American parent, then based on my understanding of the term Natural Born Citizen, neither Cruz nor Obama are eligible. Anyone who didn’t believe Obama didn’t meet the definition of natural born citizen can not support Cruz without being a hypocrite. Unfortunately, the world of politics is filled with hypocrites.

    • I’m suspicious that Cruz falsified records. When I zoom in closely on his “birth certificate” it’s clear that it is made up of pixels, not paper. A real birth certificate is made of paper, so what he “released” must be a forgery. And let’s not forget his biggest problem: The birth certificate Cruz claims is his is for a baby named Rafael Edward. Who is Rafael Edward? If it’s the person who is now known as Ted, where is the record that he officially changed his name? What is he hiding? Why is he using a pseudonym? And why hasn’t he yet given up his Canadian citizenship? He said he would, but he hasn’t done it yet. Might that be because he knows he would be stateless if he did because he’s not a US citizen, natural-born or otherwise? Cruz’s whole past is a mystery. All his records are sealed or forged. Given his obvious hate for his adopted country–the United States of America–I am very suspicious of him.

  9. There are two kinds of birthers: the kind that say Obama wasn’t born an American Citizen, and the ones that say that only people with two US citizen parents can be President.

    Trump was a birther of the first kind only, and as such his support for Cruz is no backpedaling of his type 1 birther nonsense.

  10. One of the funniest of the series of birther arguments was when some of them decided that Obama was actually the illegitimate child of an American Negro Communist. As they argued that this proved that Obama could not be president (Constitution does not say a thing about legitimate or illegitimate children running for President) they completely ignored the fact that their argument actually proved that Obama was a ‘natural born’ child of two US citizens.

    Actually, the entire ‘natural born’ clause was thrown out when George Romney (Born in Mexico of ex-US citizen ancestors who had abandoned their citizenship in the 1880s to be able to keep multiple wives) was declared legal to run for President. We have had candidates who were born in Canada, Panama, and Territories and all were considered good to run by authorities so it appears that today ANYBODY, including Cruz, can run.

  11. Why does anyone care what Trump thinks, gives money to, or how he votes? Does he have any relevancy? Yeah, he’s one of the 1% and so we must all kiss his feet because corporate welfare is what the Tea Party is all about, but, really, we already know that. Trump adds nothing to the conversation.

  12. Ted Cruz has a Foreign National for a father, thus making him a duel citizen (triple citizenship if you take into consideration that he was born in Canada).

    I’m sorry, but as much as I Like him, Cruz is no more Eligible to be President, than our current Ineligible Usurper. Neither, for that matter, are Rubio, Jindal and , possibly Santorum (more investigation of his parents & grandparents citizenship status at the time of his birth is required). They all were born to one, or both parents, who were at the time of their births, Foreign Nationals.

    It would be exceedingly hypocritical of me, to back Cruz, (or one of those others) after I’ve spent all of these years fighting against Obama in the White House, because he’s not eligible to be there…

    In Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1875), Exploring the common-law origins of citizenship, the court observed that “new citizens may be born or they may be created by naturalization” and that the Constitution “does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens.” Under the common law, according to the court, “it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”
    The entire concept of having our President be only a Natural Born Citizen (a higher level of citizenship, reserved solely for those who would be President or Vice Pres.), as opposed to a lesser, mere citizen, came about from Benjamin Franklin’s introduction, into the Constitutional Convention, of two copies of Emmerich d’ Vattel’s work, ‘Laws of Nations’, one of which he deposited with the adjacent Library and the other which he passed around the Convention, for everyone to study. History records that they were used extensively throughout the Convention. Said book was used for a century, thereafter in our nation’s colleges and universities, as a textual work.
    Delegate John Jay (not yet Supreme Court Justice) thereafter wrote to Chairman of the Convention, George Washington (not yet President) asking if it would not be prudent, to place a strong check to anyone with any undue foreign influence becoming Commander-in-Chief, exempting, of course, those alive , at the time of the Constitution’s writing. It was thereafter placed as a condition of eligibility to becoming President, without further comment recorded by history. The reason that the term ‘Natural Born Citizen’ was never defined, within the Constitution, was because everyone already knew what it meant. ‘Common Law’, remember ?
    When looking to our founding documents for answers to modern problems, we must remember to use the word meanings and definitions in common usage, at the time of that document’s writing. Word meanings and definitions often change, over time, ie; ‘A Cute, Gay man’, once referred to ‘A Bowlegged, Cheerful man.’ To attempt to use modern definitions for archaic terms defeats the purposes of looking to our historical documents.

    • The statement in the Minor decision is what is known as dicta and is not precedent on later court rulings. In addition the Minor decision doesn’t say that the only way to be a natural born citizen is with two citizen parents. One citizen parent or no citizen parents may also be sufficient, the Court just does say.

      The Constitutional Convention also used Blackstone’s Commentaries to define terms in the Constitution.

      • Billy Rawle; I grant that I’m not an attorney (thank God !), but I can understand English, well enough.
        As you can read, above, what the Justices were quoting was ‘Common law’, which is the basis for All of our laws, going back into antiquity, in England. Common law is no less pertinent, than any other laws, unless they have been ruled against, in particular. The only reason that our Framers left it to common law, was that everyone, in those days, already knew what such were. They felt that it wasn’t necessary to be redundant. In fact, many even felt that putting the 10 common laws into our Bill of Rights was unnecessary and redundant… Aren’t we glad that others out voted them and that they Are written down, as own ‘great’ legal minds today (lol) would have taken those rights away from us, as well, if they hadn’t.
        In fact, were it not for the 14th Amendment, blacks would still be slaves, because their fathers were before them. The situation of the son was dependent upon the situation of the father (not the mother), according to Vattel’s ‘Laws of Nations’, at least. Yet another reason why persons born of a Foreign National father, are considered to be foreigners, or at least duel citizens. Common Law…
        Blackstone was useful except where the situations of ‘Citizens’ diverged from those of ‘Subjects’. As in Blackstone had different things to say with relation to ‘Natural Born Subjects’, which wasn’t pertinent, because Americans were no longer ‘Subjects’ but Citizens, of a new nation.
        Since no where do we see, anyone having written any legal opinions, in our history, that says any different, than what Vattel had to say, with concerns to the Natural Born Citizen’ requirement, how else are we to determine what our framers intended ? Unless we go by what he wrote ?
        His work was used as a textbook, for over a century, in our nations colleges and universities, across this country.
        What was used, to express a different view of such ‘NBCs’ ? Nothing. Thus it means what it says and is the only resource that is pertinent to this situation.

          • Dave B.; I can’t place a date upon it, but it’s been quite awhile ago…
            Emmerich d’ Vattel, who wrote the book ‘Laws of Nations’, of which Benjamin Franklin took two copies to the Constitutional Convention, depositing one copy with the adjacent Library and bringing the other into the Convention to share. History informs us that they were used extensively throughout, as well as for a long time afterwards, as textbooks, in our nation’s colleges and universities, at least up until the push towards ‘Progressivism’ which began in the latter part of the 19th Century, began to alter the history being taught (revisionist history), especially following the Civil War and continuing ever since.
            The history taught, today, in our ‘Public Indoctrination System’ isn’t the very same as taught, when I was in school, back in the 1960’s. Especially with today’s effort at pushing the, so called, ‘Common Core’ educational aspects.

          • Like more than six years ago? Because Vattel was a pretty obscure figure to the general population (well, he still is) until birthers rediscovered him, and decided he was the neatest thing since sliced bread. Are you telling me you were taught all about Vattel “back in the 1960’s”?

          • Dave B. No Sir, it only be came an issue, once the DNC decide to run an obviously ineligible candidate (Barry Soetoro/Soebarkah aka Barack H. Obama aka Harrison P. Bounel [or Whatever his Real Name is]) for the Office of the Presidency. A candidate, who had, previously been ‘proud’ of being ‘Kenyan born’, until it became a liability…
            note; to date, he has Still failed to submit Any form of acceptable identity document for verification of his even being a US Citizen. To date ALL of his proffered identity documents have been Proven to be Fraudulent, by investigating authorities, comprised of Law enforcement, forensic scientists and certified document examiners, including his Own Law Firm’s expert, who has went on record as stating that his (Barry’s) proffered birth certificate(s) are the most blatant fraud(s) that he has ever seen.
            I’m not making this all up, merely reporting upon what I’ve found. So don’t ‘kill the messenger’, alright ?

          • Everything you just said is a LIE. Of course, YOU didn’t make it up, you’re just spreading the lies. Feel free to try and provide genuine references to support any of those lies.

          • Dave B.; I’m really surprised to hear that you are so completely cloistered away, as to not know the truth when you read it. Off in your own little make believe world, aren’t you ?
            Since I am not lying and you are rude. This conversation is over with.
            You’re free to check out all of the publicly available information, on line, in video format, from the Arizona Cold Case Posse’s multi-year investigation, which has turned into a criminal case, (using paid, full time Deputies) with charges having been laid against those responsible for the creation of Barry’s fake birth certificates (plural).
            Just Google it. It’s not hiding anywhere.
            Even his own Lawyer has admitted, in court, that his birth certificates aren’t genuine, yet still tried to submit that it doesn’t matter, since he was elected ! Can you even Imagine that ? The Audacity ! They Know that they’re representing a massive fraud, yet there’s enough money (Our Taxes) to be had, to keep them in the game.
            Wise up fella !

          • Back for more, eh? But you said “This conversation is over with,” didn’t you?
            I’ve read the reports. That’s how that they’re full of lies. But in addition to that, YOU’RE telling yet MORE lies.
            You refer to “the Arizona Cold Case Posse’s multi-year investigation, which has turned into a criminal case, (using paid, full time Deputies) with charges having been laid against those responsible for the creation of Barry’s fake birth certificates (plural).” That’s a crock. That hasn’t happened. You’re flat-out STUPID if you believe that nonsense.
            And the exact same thing goes for your LIE about how “Even his own Lawyer has admitted, in court, that his birth certificates aren’t genuine, yet still tried to submit that it doesn’t matter, since he was elected !” That didn’t happen either, and you’re flat-out stupid if you believe it did.

          • Dave B.; No Sir, You’re the one who is trying to misrepresent the situation, since your favored politician and political party has been caught lying to the American People.

            Everything that I wrote is factual and has been proven, by experts.
            All of your nay saying won;’t change that a whit.

          • Experts at what– conning the simple-minded and gullible? Feel free to name those “experts,” and list their qualifications.

            Feel free to try and provide a genuine, credible reference to support your LIE about “the Arizona Cold Case Posse’s multi-year investigation, which has turned into a criminal case, (using paid, full time Deputies) with charges having been laid against those responsible for the creation of Barry’s fake birth certificates (plural).”

            Feel free to try and provide a genuine, credible reference to support your LIE about how “his own Lawyer has admitted, in court, that his birth certificates aren’t genuine, yet still tried to submit that it doesn’t matter, since he was elected.”
            That’ll help us figure out which of those two categories to which I referred at the beginning of this comment you fit into.

          • Dave B.; It’s all right there in the articles that I suggested that you read. I see that you haven’t bothered to do so. I grant that there is a plethora of literature available, but I have been keeping up on it for years now.
            Methinks thou protest too much. That you’ve actually seen what I’m referring to, but refuse to admit it to be factual.
            You’re beating a dead horse. Obama/Soetoro/Soebarkah/Bounel’s (or Whatever his Real Name is) own Law Firm’s Certified Document Examiner contributed a 40 page testimonial on the Fraudulent nature of his (Barry’s) proffered birth certificates. (His lawyers will have fun trying to refute That) His SSAN belonged to a dead man named Harrison P. Bounel and his Selective Service Registration Card is , obviously fraudulent, as seen by the two digit, instead of the mandated four digit date stamped thereon.
            The Federal E-Verify System has kicked out the ‘Barack Obama’ name coupled with the Bounel SSAN (which he has been utilizing on his tax returns)as being Fraudulent,as well.
            There’s simply far too much evidence to list herein. Google it and read up, or Shut up.
            Unless, of course, you’re a paid Obot troll…

          • Geez, if I were a “paid Obot troll” (which appears to be nothing but an accusation you birthers throw around because your arguments suck so bad) at least somebody would be gettin their money’s worth.
            To be clear, I’m telling you flat out that your claim about “the Arizona Cold Case Posse’s multi-year investigation, which has turned into a criminal case, (using paid, full time Deputies) with
            charges having been laid against those responsible for the creation of Barry’s fake birth certificates (plural)” is a LIE. The Cold Case Posse “investigation,” such as it is, has NOT “turned into a criminal case.” If it had, it would be to investigate the unlawful activities of the
            CCP ITSELF. Any “articles” that support your LIE are LIES themselves.
            Feel free to contact the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office to see for yourself.
            I’m telling you flat out that your claim about how “his own Lawyer has admitted, in court, that his birth certificates aren’t genuine, yet still tried to submit that it doesn’t matter, since he was elected” is a lie. You can view the entire hearing about which that LIE is told here:

            No such admission was made. Any “articles” that support your LIE are LIES themselves. Feel free to try and find such an admission– you will find yourself unable to do so.

            Now, for your ongoing problems with the facts–

            You refer to how President Obama’s “own Law Firm’s Certified Document Examiner contributed a 40 page testimonial on the Fraudulent nature of his (Barry’s) proffered birth certificates.” Feel free to explain the rationale for describing the
            individual as his “own Law Firm’s Certified Document Examiner,” and feel free to post a link to that “40 page testimonial.”

            You say,

            “His SSAN belonged to a dead man named Harrison P. Bounel and his Selective Service Registration Card is , obviously fraudulent, as seen by the two digit, instead of the mandated four digit date stamped thereon.”

            There is no genuine proof to support either claim. The “Bounel” claim comes from the single appearance of the name, dated 2009, in a search of a commercial database by deranged birther Al Hendershot. There is NO evidence that such a person even existed. The claim about the Selective Service Registration has been made by unqualified and inexperienced examiners with NO knowledge of the subject, based on their “examination” of a copy of unknown quality and provenance. A copy allegedly acquired from the Selective Service System, which has NO problem with the President’s registration.

            You go on,

            “The Federal E-Verify System has kicked out the ‘Barack Obama’ name coupled with the Bounel SSAN (which he has been utilizing on his tax
            returns)as being Fraudulent.”

            That has NEVER happened. There is NO SUCH THING as a “Bounel SSAN” associated with President Obama– there is NO SUCH PERSON to whom that number was issued. The President’s Social Security Number was issued to
            Barack Obama, and to no one else. Any attempts to access the President’s protected information by using the E-Verify system were themselves FRAUDULENT and ILLEGAL– such violations of the E-Verify system’s terms of use and of federal law would of course not be successful.

            And there is absolutely NO connection between the “Bounel” claim and the “E-Verify” claims.

            You conclude,

            “There’s simply far too much evidence to list herein.”

            I will simply point out, as California Superior Court Judge Charles Margines did to Orly Taitz, that

            “You should know that evidence is not stuff printed from the internet.”You’ve got no evidence. You’ve got gossip, rumor, misinformation, bad science and outright lies. None of that is evidence.

          • Dave B.; First of all, your video links of ONE trial concerning the issues at hand was virtually unintelligible (audibly). I prefer to deal with the written word. Secondly; This was one of numerous attempts to get this matter in front of an honest judge, which, of course, was dismissed, instead of being ruled upon the issues at hand.

            Thirdly, your accusations concerning the reliability of the plethora of evidence in this case is absurd.
            I have given you plenty of opportunities to explore this issue in depth, yet instead of focusing upon the facts at hand, all you have done is suck up all of the lies that the administration has been spouting.
            You can view all of the evidence, should you care to, in video format, on line. It’s all there, every single iota of it. Nothing hidden, nothing secret, every single item is presented, in it’s entirety.
            I suggest that you read Chief Justice Roy Moore’s (of the AL Supreme Court) remarks, following his courts refusal to comment upon this issue (more judges bought or scared off?) Justice Tom Parker is in agreement, the rest chose to offer ‘No Opinion’, in their recent Obama Eligibility to be on the 2012 Ballot case.
            That certified document examiner’s (who has been used for many cases, by Barry’s law firm) 40 page statement is available, as well. All you have to do is look. I’m not going to reprint it all herein. It would take up too much space.
            Since you refuse to bother looking at the evidence available, we have nothing further to converse about… You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink.

          • Good grief. You just keep piling the lies on top of each other, don’t you?
            That

            “ONE trial” is THE trial you’re LYING about in the first place. Duh. The audio is more than adequate; and you’ve got some nerve to turn your nose up at that and then turn right around and tell
            me “You can view all of the evidence, should you care to, in video format, on line.” But then you birthers aren’t particularly known for your self-awareness, are you? No, you prefer the written word you learned your LIES from in the first place.
            The discussion of the birth certificate image is in the second video, beginning at about 28:20. There is NO admission that the President’s birth certificate, or the image of it on the White House website, isn’t genuine. The proof you’re lying is right there– and you’re AFRAID of it.
            But speaking of your LIES, you said,
            “This was one of numerous attempts to get this matter in front of an honest judge, which, of course, was dismissed, instead of being ruled
            upon the issues at hand.”
            Here’s the RULING, you LIAR:
            http://www.scribd.com/doc/88936737/2012-04-10-NJ-Purpura-Moran-v-Obama-Initial-Decision-of-ALJ-Masin-Apuzzo
            And the ruling on the appeal:
            http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/95456039?access_key=key-2k67psnnwmppbnfp5xix&allow_share=true&escape=false&view_mode=scroll
            You think you can get away with just making stuff up, don’t you? It may come as a shock to you that not EVERYBODY does that.
            Believe me, I didn’t wait til you gave me the “opportunity” to “explore this issue in depth.” I’m obviously FAR more familiar with it than you are.
            I watched Arpaio’s presentations live, or as soon as they became available. I even prepared partial transcripts of them (and I didn’t whine about how they were “virtually unintelligible,” either).
            The Cold Case Posse has yet to produce ONE SINGLE SHRED of genuine evidence to support their claims. It’s almost as if the “investigation” was intentionally conducted so as not to produce any genuine judicial evidence, relying as it did upon mere GOSSIP and the unscientific OPINIONS of unqualified and demonstrably BIASED persons. There is NO basis for the claim that the President’s birth certificate only exists as a digital forgery. That’s just plain goofy.
            I don’t know what you mean by Judge Moore’s “remarks,” but I’ve read his dissent in McInnish v. Chapman. In that opinion, Judge Moore neither
            said nor implied that President Obama was ineligible for the presidency, or that his birth certificate was inaccurate or inauthentic. To what,
            specifically, are you referring? With what, exactly, are you saying Judge Moore is “in agreement”?
            And here’s another of your LIES– while no majority opinion was given in the case, there were TWO concurring opinions, in addition to the two dissents. You’re not just a liar, you’re a singularly inept one.
            And speaking of your ineptitude as a liar, you go on:
            “That certified document examiner’s (who has been used for many cases, by Barry’s law firm) 40 page statement is available, as well.”
            Feel free to try and provide the names of those “many cases” in which Reed Hayes was used by Perkins Coie as a document examiner. And no, that “40 page statement” is NOT available. It is notoriously UNAVAILABLE, you LIAR! You add, “I’m not going to reprint it all herein. It would take
            up too much space.” YOU’VE NEVER EVEN SEEN IT.

          • I can see that you’ve really taken your study of Saul (the ‘Red’) Alinski’s book ‘Rules for Radicals’ to heart, espousing his admonition to use disparaging remarks, insults and outright lies, to attempt to overcome your opposition, instead of utilizing logic. The old Socialist method of calling your opponents liars, when , in fact, you, yourself are the one doing the lying. I advanced the video format, as you seem younger and obtain your information that way. I’m older and hard of hearing, so I prefer the written word.
            It’s obvious that you’re playing to some, perceived, audience, so I’ll not be your punching bag, in your spreading of such propaganda.
            I’m outta here.

          • Another irony meter explodes!
            It’s no fun when somebody KNOWS you’re lying, and there’s NOTHING you can do about it but RUN, is it?

          • First, name the ” forensic scientists and certified document examiners”.

            Here is one for you – Dr. Neil Krawetz (PhD in computer science and a forensic image analyst by trade)

            “The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”

            And another, Professor Richardo de Queiroz (one of the developers of Mixed Raster Content (MRC)compression, Xerox researcher)

            “In summary I can only say I see much stronger signs of common MRC algorithmic processing of the image rather than some intentional manipulation.”

            As for certified document examiners – Reed hayes – his report has not been released so it is impossible to judge the contents. His own resume (C.V.) does not indicate that he has nay expertise in digital documents. His lone involvement with Perkins Coie dates back to the late 1990s for an attorney (Thomas Kellenberg) who has not been with the firm since the early 2000s. Hayes does not list any court cases in which he gave testimony involving Perkins Coie, so it is impossible to determine in what capacity he worked for them.

            In 1990 interviews with the New York Times and the Los Angeles Times, President Obama said he was born in Hawaii. He has never personally said he was born in Kenya. He has consistently maintained that he was born in Hawaii.

            President Obama’s lawyer never said that his “birth certificates aren’t genuine”. She did say that New Jersey state law did not require any candidate to provide proof of eligibility. The Judge, the New jersey Appeals Court and the New Jersey Supreme Court agreed with her.
            Your message is full of falsehoods.

        • Blackstone wrote “The children of aliens, born here in England, are, generally speaking, natural-born subjects, and entitled to all the privileges
          of such.”

          This was restated by Chief Justice Cockburn in 1858, “By the common law of England, every person born within the dominions of the Crown, no matter whether of English or of foreign parents, and, in the latter case, whether the parents were settled, or merely temporarily sojourning in the country, was an English subject; save only the children of foreign ambassadors (who were excepted because their fathers carried their own nationality with them), or a child born to a foreigner during the hostile occupation of any part of the territories of England. No effect appears to have been given to descent as a source of nationality.”

          This was the understanding of the term natural born subject that the Founders grew up with and that they studied when they were learning the laws of England.

          That might explain why when John Adams drafted the constitution of Massachusetts in 1780, he used both terms “citizens of the Commonwealth” and “subjects of the Commonwealth” in the same document. Or why President Washington after his election thanked the Roman Catholic clergy for being “faithful subjects of our free government”.

          Or maybe it explains why between 1785 and 1791, the Massachusetts legislature used the terms “natural born subject” and “natural born citizen” interchangeably.

          February, 1785, “AN ACT FOR NATURALIZING NICHOLAS ROUSSELET AND GEORGE SMITH.” in which it was declared that Nicholas Rousselet and George Smith “shall be deemed, adjudged, and taken to be citizens of this Commonwealth, and entitled to all the liberties, rights and privileges of natural born citizens.”

          February, 1786, “AN ACT FOR NATURALIZING MICHAEL WALSH.” in which it was declared
          that Michael Walsh “shall be deemed, adjudged, and taken to be a citizen of this Commonwealth, and entitled to all the liberties, rights and privileges of a natural born citizen.”

          July, 1786,“AN ACT FOR NATURALIZING JONATHAN CURSON AND WILLIAM OLIVER” in which it was declared that Jonathan Curson and William Oliver “shall be deemed adjudged and taken to be free Citizens of this Commonwealth, and entitled to all the liberties, privileges and immunities of natural born citizens.”

          March, 1787, “AN ACT FOR NATURALIZING WILLIAM MARTIN AND OTHERS.” in which it was declared that William Martin and Others,”shall be deemed, adjudged and taken to be free Citizens of this Commonwealth, and entitled to all the liberties, privileges and immunities of natural born subjects.”

          May, 1787, the Massachusetts legislature passed “AN ACT FOR NATURALIZING EDWARD WYER
          AND OTHERS THEREIN NAMED.” in which it was declared that William Martin and Others,”shall be deemed, adjudged and taken, to be free Citizens of this Commonwealth, and entitled to all the liberties, privileges and immunities of natural born subjects.”

          October, 1787, “AN ACT FOR NATURALIZING BARTHOLOMY DE GREGOIRE, AND MARIA THERESA, HIS WIFE, AND THEIR CHILDREN.” in which it was declared that Bartholomy de
          Gregoire, and Maria Theresa, his wife, their children,” shall be deemed, adjudged and taken to be free Citizens of this Commonwealth, and entitled to all the liberties, rights and privileges of natural born citizens.”

          November, 1787, “AN ACT FOR NATURALIZING ALEXANDER MOORE, AND OTHERS, HEREIN NAMED.” in which it was declared that Alexander Moore and others,”shall be deemed, adjudged and taken to be free citizens of this Commonwealth, & entitled to all the privileges, liberties, and immunities of natural born subjects.”

          June, 1788, “AN ACT FOR NATURALIZING WILLIAM MENZIES, AND OTHERS, THEREIN NAMED.” in which it was declared that William Menzies and others “shall be deemed, adjudged and taken to be free citizens of this Commonwealth, and intitled to all the liberties, privileges & immunities of natural born subjects.”

          November, 1788, “AN ACT FOR NATURALIZING ELISHA BOURN, AND OTHERS, THEREIN NAMED.” in which it was declared that Elisha Bourn and others “shall be deemed, adjudged and taken to be free Citizens of this Commonwealth, & entitled to all the liberties, privileges & immunities of natural born Citizens.”

          February, 1789, “AN ACT FOR NATURALIZING JAMES HUYMAN, AND OTHERS, THEREIN NAMED.” in which it was declared that James Huyman and others “shall be deemed, adjudged
          and taken to be free Citizens of this Commonwealth, and entitled to all the Liberties, Privileges and Immunities of natural born subjects.”

          June, 1789,“AN ACT FOR NATURALIZING NATHANIEL SKINNER, AND OTHERS, THEREIN NAMED.” in which it was declared that Nathaniel Skinner and others “shall be deemed, adjudged and taken to be free citizens of this Commonwealth, and entitled to all the liberties, privileges and immunities of natural born subjects.”

          March, 1790, “AN ACT FOR NATURALIZING JOHN JARVIS, AND OTHERS, THEREIN NAMED” in which it was declared that John Jarvis and others, “shall be deemed adjudged and taken to be free citizens of this Commonwealth, and entitled to all the liberties, privileges and immunities of natural born subjects.”

          March, 1791, “AN ACT FOR NATURALIZING JOHN WHITE & OTHERS” in which it was
          declared that John White and others, “shall be deemed adjudged and taken, to be free citizens of this Commonwealth, and intitled to all the liberties, privileges, and immunities of natural born subjects.”
          In Massachusetts, natural born citizen and natural born subject meant the same thing.

          • Vattel differed with Blackstone on the labeling of ‘Citizens’ vrs ‘Subjects’. A Natural Born British Subject was NOT the same thing as a Natural Born American Citizen, even though some of our Founders, long accustomed to using the term ‘Subject’ may have inadvertently used it in reference to ‘Citizens’. there is a vast difference.

          • How do you know the use was inadvertent? Why should we take your word for it? Maybe the Founders viewed the change from subjects to citizens as no big deal. In fact, James Madison said as much in 1789.

            “It is an established maxim that birth is a criterion of allegiance. Birth, however, derives its force sometimes from place, and sometimes from parentage; but, in general, place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States; it will, therefore, be unnecessary to investigate any other.”

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            “I conceive the colonies remained as a political society, detached from their former connexion with another society, without dissolving into a state of nature, but capable of substituting a new form of Government in the place of the old one, which they had, for special considerations, abolished.”

            We know that in 1795 Connecticut, the children of aliens were considered “natural born subjects” with all the rights of citzens.

            “The children of aliens born in this state are considered as natural born subjects and have the same rights with the rest of the citizens.” Zephaniah Swift, US Congressman, Chief Justice of the Connecticut Supreme Court.

            So how would Swift interpret the term “natural born citizen” in the Constitution?

          • Billy Rawle; I can’t speak to what your Mr. Swift might think about anything. How would I, or anyone, know for certain what was in another person’s mind? I am only speaking to what our Framers intent was, when they crafted the ‘Natural Born Citizen’ requirement, for the Presidency. Which, of course, we can only ascertain, by taking into consideration, what was occurring, during the time that they wrote this requirement; ie; they wrote it in response to a request from Convention Delegate John Jay (soon to be Supreme court Justice) to Convention Chairman Washington (not yet President) that they place a strong check upon admitting any to the position of Commander-in-Chief, with any ‘undue foreign influences’. A Foreign Born Father would definitely appear, using their criteria, to meet that unqualifying category.
            note; Other than this one conversation, historical records show no other conversations on this subject, prior to the requirement being put into the Constitution. (at least that I, or the others whom I have communicated with on this matter, can ascertain).

            IF it meant the exact same thing, as some would suggest, as any other form of US Citizenship, then Why would they have made a special point of including it as a ‘Requirement’ for the Presidency ?

          • First, he is not my Mr. Swift – he was a US Congressman, Connecticut Supreme Court Chief Justice and his 1795 book on the laws of Connecticut was the first legal treatise written in the United States.

            Second, in an earlier post you claimed to have read the Founder’s minds when you declared that that their interchangeable use of the terms natural born citizen and natural born subjects was inadvertent.

            Third, the Framers intent is rather clear if you read the debates in the Convention. The Jay letter arrived in early August, 1787, also in early August several delegates proposed that Senators needed to be native born. James Wilson, who was not a native (born in Scotland) argued that this was unfair to him and other non-native citizens and Madison said it would “discourage the most desireable class of people from emigrating to the U. S.” So the measure was defeated and members of Congress had only to be citizens of the United States. But they still reserved the Presidency to natives and to accommodate men like Wilson and Hamilton they added the “grandfather clause”.

            In 1787 “native born” and “natural born” meant the same thing as can be shown by the writings of one of the most prominent legal minds of the time St. George Tucker (Revolutionary War hero and one of the first law school professors in the U.S.):

            “That provision in the constitution which requires that the president shall be a native-born citizen
            (unless he were a citizen of the United States when the constitution was adopted,) is a happy means of security against foreign influence, which, wherever it is capable of being exerted, is to be dreaded more than the plague.” (View of the Constitution of the United States, 1803).

          • Billy Rawle; Thank you for making my argument for me. Differentiating between the requirements for a Senator and those required for a President.

          • Not sure why you say that as no one I know has ever claimed there wasn’t a difference between the requirements.

            President – natural born citizen
            Senators – natural born or naturalized citizens
            Representatives – natural born or naturalized citizens

            It’s not complicated.

          • Billy Rawle; Please correct me if I’m wrong, but weren’t you arguing that a ‘Natural Born Citizen’ is the same thing as a non natural born citizen, in the context of Presidential requirements ? That was the entire gist of my original comments (that the President is held, by law, to a higher standard).

          • No, I was not.

            Arnold Schwarzenegger is not a natural born citizen and cannot be President. Barack Obama, Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal are definitely natural born citizens. I also believe Ted Cruz would qualify as a natural born citizen but I can see the case for him being less clear cut.

          • Marco Rubio (Cuban),Ted Cruz (Cuban), Bobby Jindal (Indian)and , possibly, Rick Santoreum (Italian) (more investigation of his parents/grandparents citizenship status, at the time of his birth, required) ALL have, at least, ONE parent who was a Foreign National, at the time of their births, making them duel citizens, in the eyes of the law. (Obama/Soetoro/Et., al. is a British Subject, by virtue of his farther’s being a Kenyan [at the time a British Protectorate] for instance).

            The whole idea behind the ‘Natural Born Citizen’ requirement to to keep any with undue foreign influences from attaining the position of Commander-in-Chief. I’m Certain that our Founders would consider a person with a Foreign National for a parent, to have undue foreign influences upon them. Look at all of the damage that Obama has done our nation, with his affinity towards the Muslim religion and Islamic nations. He may have had an American Mother, but he definitely wasn’t raised as an American !

            If these aforementioned individuals were considered to be ‘NBC’s, then there would be little reason to have instituted the ‘NBC’ clause to begin with.

            The person who is credited with coining the term, Emmerich d’ Vattel, in his work, ‘Laws of Nations’ (which, history tells us was used extensively during the Constitutional Convention) wrote that such would consist of a child citizen, born in the country, of two citizen parents. The SCOTUS agreed, that while the Constitution does not say, exactly what a NBC consists of, in common law, it was never doubted that a child, born in the country of citizen parents, was a native, or natural born citizen. (Minor v Happersett 1875)

          • “I’m Certain that our Founders would…”

            Mind reading again I see.

            ” … there would be little reason to have instituted the ‘NBC’ clause to begin with.”

            They did not want people born and raised in other countries to come here and after 14 years be eligible to be president.

            “The person who is credited with coining the term
            …”

            The book Law of Nations did not use the term “natural born citizen” until the 1795 edition. English language editions prior to that used the term “natives or indigenes”.

            “The SCOTUS agreed…”

            But the Court did not say if a person with one citizen parent was natural born.

            Here is what my namesake William Rawle wrote in 1825:

            “Therefore every person born within the United
            States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural born citizen in the sense of the Constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges appertaining to that capacity. “ A View of the Constitution

            Rawle was a friend of Benjamin Franklin. Together in February, 1787 they founded the “Society for Political Inquiries”. A groupr of prominent Philadelphians who met twice a month in Franklin’s dining room. Thomas Paine wrote the by-laws for the Society. Members included Benjamin Rush, James Wilson, Robert Morris and other signers of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.

            Rawle was appointed by President Washington to the position of United States Attorney for Pennsylvania.

          • Billy Rawle; If every person born within the US, etc. is a ‘NBC’, as you claim, then children of illegal aliens could become President. Sorry, but I cannot agree. It leaves no distinction between those ‘citizen children, born in the country, of two citizen parents’ (fully indoctrinated in our culture and mores) and those who have little knowledge, or love, for our country, such as has been evidenced, by our current ‘Usurper-in-Chief’, whom no one really knows where he was born (fraudulent birth certificates, fake Selective Service Registration Card and a dead man’s SSAN), but admittedly was raised in a foreign country and has foreign values, instead of American ones. It seems almost as if that particular clause was written expressly to keep people, such as he, from attaining that most august (and powerful) of positions.

            note; I’ll be leaving town tomorrow morning, and won’t be able to continue our discourse, until I get back, later next week. I have enjoyed your civility though. It’s refreshing, compared to some I’ve had. We may disagree, but we’re doing it in a polite fashion ;~)

          • Two citizen parents does not guarantee full “indoctrinated in our culture and mores”. Was Timothy McVeigh a natural born citizen? Or Adam Gadahn? Who is more indoctrinated in our culture and mores, the child of two citizen parents who move to France when the child is 6 months old and he attends French schools through college before he returns to the US? Or Senator Rubio?

            The State of Hawaii say the President was born there. Really, that’s better than most people. Has the state you were born in verified your birth?

            His Selective Service registration is not a forgery as indicated by the verification issued by the Selective Service Administration in 2008.

            There is zero evidence he is using some else’s SSN. Just the opposite. All the evidence points to him being the only person to ever have that SSN.

            The President and his mother moved to Indonesia in October, 1967 and he returned to the US in June/July 1971. Three and a half years hardly constitutes being raised in a foreign country.

            What foreign values?

  13. A lot of discussion about whether or not Obama’s birth certificate is a forgery, but regardless of that arguments outcome think about this: How is it that an announcement of lives births in two Hawaiian newspapers appeared? Did someone secretly go back in time to change those announcements? Did some one have the foresight way back when to put in a phony birth announcement on the outside chance that some time in the future it would be needed.

  14. Ted Cruz has a Canadian birth certificate. That is the end all definative answer that he can never be president of the United States. No renouncing of citizenship, or U.S. national mother will change the fact he is Canadian born. That is a fact that can not change. Obama has a Hawiian birth certificate that is one of the 50 United States. No matter his parents nationality he is an U.S. natural born citizen. McCain has an U.S. birth certificate because he was born in an U.S. military hospital and has an U.S. birth certificate. This makes him a natural born citizen.
    Put the shoe on the other foot for a moment. All these Mexican women coming to The U.S. having babies on U.S. soil are getting U.S. birth certificates. Wether or not one of the parents are U.S. or Mexican citizens. Those children are U.S. Citizens by birth certificate. Just as Ted Cruz parents were in Canada for his birth. He recieved a Canadian birth certificate. So the argument that Ted Cruz mother is a U.S. citizen hold no water for Ted Cruz because he was born in Canada and has a Canadian birth certificate. America is a continent not a country. Canada, and Mexico both are in the continent of North America not the U.S.
    If the law were different we will have possible Russian birth certicicate born, and raised as communists, or ISIS, or Iraq, or any country run for president, as long as they have a U.S. Natural born mother.

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