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Friday, September 30, 2016

 

Unlike the birthers who falsely accuse the President of fraud — or Michele Bachmann, who blindly accuses public servants of treason — Harry Reid has never accused Mitt Romney of a crime. In fact, by Mitt’s own definition, Reid is paying him a compliment.

Remember what Romney said on this topic: “I don’t pay more than are legally due and frankly if I had paid more than are legally due I don’t think I’d be qualified to become president. I’d think people would want me to follow the law and pay only what the tax code requires.”

All Harry Reid is saying is that Mitt found a way — based on existing tax codes — to pay no taxes. He is arguing that Mitt legally avoided any tax responsibility to the U.S. government and that’s why he won’t reveal his returns. But why not, Mitt? A zero in the “Amount owed” box would be the ultimate proof that you’re qualified to be president, according to your own odd standard.

Is it likely that Mitt Romney legally paid no taxes in the past ten years, as Harry Reid reports he was told? Not likely, experts say. But is it out of the question? Hell no.

According to the IRS, 1500 millionaires paid zero taxes in 2009. That’s correct. No taxes. How did they do it? They “were probably donating to charity, investing in local and state government bonds and making most of their money overseas.” Hmmm. At least two of these tactics are Romney specialties, as we know from his limited disclosures that he is a fan of overseas investments and tithes a tenth of his income to his Church (in addition to supporting other charities.)

Let’s stop pretending that Mitt Romney wouldn’t be proud if he avoided paying any taxes for ten years. If he weren’t awkwardly forced to pretend he lives in the same world as most Americans, he’d be bragging about the lengths he goes to avoid paying taxes at home and abroad. And he isn’t alone. Viewed in a clear light, the entire Republican Party can be seen as a tax avoidance scheme.

  • Paying zero taxes may be his ultimate goal for people in his income bracket, but not for the rest of us.

    • montanabill

      Ever take a deduction?

  • old_blu

    I pay my ‘FAIR’ share and expect everyone else to do the same, republican or democrate.

    I don’t have any “loop holes”.

    That trickel down shit ain’t working!!!

    • montanabill

      If you are paying taxes at all, you benefit from trickle down.

      • old_blu

        Hi bill, It didn’t create the jobs that Regan and (‘myself”) thought it would. I really thought it was going to work.

        • montanabill

          All economies are trickle down, even before the phrase was invented.

      • YepThatTell

        SAD COMMENTARY. STUPID TO BOOT, MONTANA.

        • montanabill

          If you have a job, how did your company get started? If you don’t have a job, where does the money for your welfare check come from? Explain ‘trickle up’ economics. Can you see a relationship between the words ‘profit’ and ‘trickle’? Can you find a time or place in history where an economy hasn’t been trickle down?

      • It can’t trickle down if it is all over seas. Or at least not trickle down to Americans.

        • montanabill

          Then why don’t we work to get our businesses and industries productive and profitable so that money will stay home.

          • CEM

            montanabill

            Either you are very wealthy and you are just lying to illegally and unfairly increase your income or you are another one of those ignorant, befuddled, fanatical right wingers who does understand how you are being victimized and are gratefull for it.

            By the way American business and industry is very efficient and productive and there is no real NEED to go overseas in order to become profitable.

          • Hillbilly Bill More Than Likely Still Live With His Mom!!!

          • montanabill

            Here’s a clue. If the current administrations policies were good for business, they wouldn’t be sitting on the sidelines waiting for him to go away. Some American businesses and industries are efficient and productive, but are getting hammered by the massive increase in regulations. Regulations created by unelected bureaucrats in government agencies. Do some research on industries that have moved manufacturing overseas because their unions decided a closed plan was better than compromising.

          • In other words, if you can get Americans to work for 83 cents an hour you will bring your manufacturing back to this country? You better treat people better than that. They are consumers and you need consumers.

          • montanabill

            Your words, not mine. Some manufacturing will likely never come back. But, as the automakers (mainly foreign) have shown, they are perfectly willing to build cars here so long as they can plan on a fair wage and benefits package. The days of $70-$75/hr assembly line workers is gone. Today, the average is $30/hr. For relatively unskilled labor, that is still a pretty good wage.
            We also need to significantly curb the regulatory agencies. Maggie, you just wouldn’t believe the number of regulations that affect every single business in this country. The cost of the paper work and compliance is enormous. We obviously need some regulations, but we live in world gone mad with regulations. These are rules created, not by elected officials, but by unelected bureaucrats.

        • berrysoeto

          Doesn’t bother barak since he is sending tax money to other countries as well as their jobs

          • adler56

            Racist loser.

          • When you can’t debate on merit …playb the Race Card …how Progressive of you

      • adler56

        BS. There is no trickle down- you’ve been conned since the time of ronnie raygun- the absent minded grade B actor.

    • berrysoeto

      Yea the 47% who pay no taxes thinks that paying a nickle sales tax for a coffeee is big $$$

      • adler56

        You’re a dumbass loser- get out of my country you greedy pig.

        • adler56… learn that intolerant behavior and bullying from Rahm …didn’t work out too good for him . This is still Amreica at least for the time being . He has a right to express his opinion . Save your fascism until at least the extremely small chance that Obama is able to get the media to look the other way and he somehow steals the election . If that happens I’m sure he will suspend the Constitution , silence naysayers , and you and Rahm can go on with your intolerant bullying fascist behavior

          • adler56

            This is still “Amreica”? Really? I think racists like you are too dumb to live in my country.

          • turnipgreens

            Stealing an election is best left to GOP. Remember Bush in FL?

      • Your figures are wildly incorrect and misleading. The actual number of folks not any tax at all is about 14%. That 47% figure is a terrible myth that far too many are so willing to believe without doing and research to verify such disingenious claims.

        Let me break it down for you…from the Tax Policy Center: ‘The fraction of tax units paying no income tax varies widely by filing status and type of unit. About 47% of ‘single’ filers will owe no tax, compared with 38% of joint filers and 72% of heads of households. More than half of elderly units and tax units with children will pay no income tax this year. (2010) This is where that your false idea comes from.

        In fact, all working folks shelled out for Social Security and Medicare payroll tax deduction. In fact, only 14% of Americans didnt’ pay either income or payroll taxes. Additionally, many paid property taxes, sales taxes, gas taxes and alike. The 14% is largely composed of the elderly and disabled. These people who don’t pay taxes do so because they can’t work.

        Here are some numbers for your consideration that can be found with a little reseach using tax records and alike. These are the figures for the so-called nonpaying American households.

        31% earn less than $10,000 per year
        61% earn less than $20,000 per year
        87% earn less than $40,000 per year

        A large part of those families included children. FYI, for taxation purposes the US Dept of Head and Human Services defines the proverty threshold as being $22,050 per year.

        Would you really trade position with the 14% just to avoid paying any taxes? Seriously?

  • If That Don’t Beat All The Rich Wants A Free Ride Here In America!! I Pay My Taxes So Should They!!! And I’m Not Willing To Pay Another 2,000 So The Rich Can Get More Tax Breaks!!!!

    • Then we need to make sure that Romney don’t get elected President.

    • montanabill

      Question Fern, if the rich are getting a free ride, who is paying that 70% of all income tax collected by the government that the bottom 90% aren’t paying?

      • I Don’t Talk To Ass Kissing Trolls So FUCK OFF TROLL!!!

        • There Goes Fern once again showing the tolerance or lack there of that Liberals are famous for ….with just a pinch of Rahm Eamnuel like Bullying and fascism thrown in

          • SCREW YOU TOO MICKY MOUSE GO KISS HILLBLLY BILL ASS !! KOCH BROTHERS ASS KISSING THUG!!!

          • I am not sure what your shouting and name calling is supposed to accomplish.

          • Mind Your Own Business I’m Not Sure What The Hell It Got To Do With You!! Unless You’re One Of The Ass Kissing Trolls Running Behind People With Your Bullshit!! In Other Words STFU!!! It’s Typing Not Shouting Numbnuts!! One You Read And One You Hear!! Duh?? I Hope You Get My Memo Also!!! Or You Will Be Cussed Out TOO!!

          • Sorry about you not taking your medication for tourette’s syndrome. What do you think your rhetoric accomplishes. You can do some research and present facts or you can continue to rant, which means you should be on Brietbart.

      • Question Hillbilly Did You Not Get My Memo?? Take Your Koch Brothers Ass Kissing Somewhere Else And Stop Trolling Behind Me With Your Bullshit!!!

    • Fern they are paying 86% of the collected taxes in America while 47% of Americans pay none ,. The difference the 47% vote for Obama and want a pay increase on the backs of achievers …They want Obama money …where’s my free sh&t

      • DID YOU NOT GET MY MEMO GO SCREW YOURSELF WITH A RUSTY RAZOR BLADE NUMBNUT!!

        • YOU AND THE REST OF YOU LOW LIFE AMERICAN TALIBAN TERRORISTS GO VOTE FOR ROMNEYHOOD STOP TALKING TO ME!!! WHAT PART OF STOP TALKING TO ME DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND???

      • All You Do Is TROLL Behind Others With Your Bullshit FUCK OFF ASSHOLE THUG!!!

  • Romneyhood Is A Great Name For This THUG!!! Rob The Middle Class And poor To Give To The Rich, HELL NO!!!

    • Fern, maybe you should go find a different board. This one might be too civilized for you. You childish, angry, name calling is not adding to anything. It is detracting. I don’t think you are a Democrat. Most of my Democrat friends are nicer than you.

      • Maggie You Should Go Fuck Your Self!! You Have Now Become A TROLL On My Hit List!! SCREW YOU!!! I Don’t Talk To Koch Brothers Ass Kisser Go Kiss Ass Else Where And STFU Talking To Me!!!

        • Have you been forgetting to take your medications? If anyone does not agree with your methodology you resort to nasty name-calling. I do not like the Koch Brothers. I don’t want them taking over my country.

          • SCREW YOU What Part Of Stop Talking To Me You Not Understanding??? Here A Kiss My ASS For Good Measurement!!

  • aloeverabeauty

    Wow! This explains it all. So these guys have largely contributed to bring the economy down on its knees. The Republican Party should have checked all these facts before endorsing this candidate. Are they really serious about investing him? Yes perhaps there are blind Americans for the vote. Yes there certainly are!

    • YepThatTell

      The GOP is counting on voter stupidity (Teabaggers) and Voter Suppression (all “legal”, of course!) AS THEIR ONLY CHANCES TO WIN THIS ELECTION. WAKE UP, PEOPLE!!

  • jarheadgene

    TO any GOP people who happen on this….there is your HERO….the ZERO HERO. And you are probably proud of the new JIM CROW laws the GOP has come up with. SHAME ON YOU.
    It’s not too late to not vote for that guy or GOP period…I was a Republican for 30 years, I wised up thanks to Dick (Evil in a suit) Cheney and Karl (Piglet in a suit) Rove.

  • clarenceswinney

    CONGRESS AND WHITE HOUSE ARE OWNED BY $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
    GET $$$$$ OUR OF OUR GOVERNMENT

    IT IS A SHAME THAT OUR SENATOR WAS A FRESHMAN AND HAD 1.3M IN HIS CAMPAIGN PIGGY BANK ONLY A FEW MONTHS AFTER BEING ELECTED

    Max Baucus—Chair Senate Finance Comm—70% poll for Public option–
    Bill hit his comm— first act—removed public option for debate
    shocked me—I trusted him. Zap. Report=he had $1,900,00 in his campaign kitty from health care industry..

    The millions spent by thousands of Lobbyists expect favors. Buy them.

    We need a Washington revolution and kick all out

    Obama lost me with Gay Marriage. Totally disgusted. I am in a position I trust no one in Washington. I know few are very good but $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ BUYS ANYONE

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ OUT OF GOVERNMENT—— QUICK

    NYT had superb article on Wall Street employees going into many many many government jobs in Congress and White House

    They left for a much lower paying job.
    Conclusion—Wall Street biggies are placing them in positions to make decisions for Wall Street.
    Pay under table or? Many have done this. Worked in Wash for few years then back to Wall street into a higher paying job

    This is sad sad. RULES MUST CHANGE

    NO $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ IN WASHINGTON

    NYT had article on Interconnectivity between Board Of Directors in WSA firms
    You vote for my pay+pension I vote for yours
    sickening

    5 big banks own 50% of deposits in 7000 banks and 10 own 80%

    Restate Glass Steagall—separate Casinos from local banks

    County Banking Systems—local wealth kept local to create more local wealth and jobs
    WASHINGTON SOLUTIONS (Congress + White House)
    Requires overturning Corp is a person
    1. fed fund election—6 mos-3 primary 3 general—free equal tv time—debate a week=12=adequate to evaluate candidates NO $$ =O
    2. Since they will not need campaign funds Ban them from receiving anything of a financial value this closes K St.
    3. Progressive Flat Tax by group—We have the income to pay our way-do it
    We rank #2 as lowest taxed in OECD nations. We have an income of $14,00 billion yet tax 2400 and borrow 1300. Dumb?

  • Mitt’s loopholes should be retied right around his neck publicly….

  • nomaster

    Willard the Ratman, thinks by fanangling loopholes so that he can pay no taxes makes him the best qualified for president. He claims he is going to change the tax code so that people can’t be evading their taxes, legal or not legal. Only him and his rich friends could do that, working people have never been able to do that since they have very few money hiding loopholes, if any, to rely on. What is he going to do then, to not pay all these taxes he has been getting away without paying. Maybe then for once he will have to live up to what he said. Really! You can already hear the flip-flop sound coming from his mouth. Does anyone really think he would not change his mind, again. Another trick or rat, out of the old bag. No one, not even Reid has said that he is doing something illegal, but legal doesn’t always make it morally correct.

    • Nomaster : I agree with you . legal or not it’s just not morally right . The top 2 % have 95 % of the money in the United States ,the middleclass have 5 % of the money ,but we pay 53% of the taxes while the Rich pay 47 % the real poor pay nothing . But we can’t do a thing about the poor they don’t have any money . Just how long can the middleclass continue to pay 53% of the taxes and live ? If the Rich have 95% of all the money it want hurt them to pay 90% of the taxes not 90 % of their money but 90% of the taxes . they did it back in the 50s and it did not hurt them at all . the middleclass are paying more of the taxes than the rich are on 5 % of the money .We need tax reform now close up those loop holes or make it a flat tax or a federal sales tax is the only fair tax there is . There would have to be a seperate tax for corporations .

  • tedthetruther

    As usual from NationalMemo, just a lot of unsubstantiated innuendo with no substance. The IRS has reviewed his returns and are not pursuing him. When will Dear Leader post his secret treasure trove of information so he can be properly vetted? Still waiting for school records, passport records, law license records, and oh yes, a real birth certificate.

    • ted — how can you be so stupid? Were your parents siblings?

      • WhutHeSaid

        If so, he has an automatic lifetime membership in the Tea Party.

    • SaneJane

      No one has said that Romney did anything illegal so citing IRS review is not even relevant to the topic. I am sure he did nothing illegal regarding his taxes but did he do anything immoral, unethical, unpresidential or unAmerican? Let’s just say that he has been able to influence tax law that favors himself, and others like him, but puts you at a disadvantage. Only a small percentage of Americans get this preferential treatment and you, I, and most Americans are not included. If you think school report cards, passports and licenses are more important than what a person does after they reach adulthood and achieve a position of influence then you are seriously misguided. We are not hiring a kindergarten teacher we are hiring a president.

    • No one said Romney did anything illegal. Special interest lobbyist have seen to it that our tax code favors the rich. They have loopholes that are not available to the rest of the world. I don’t want their money. I am not envious of it. I suppose if my greatest goal in life was to get rich, I could have. So I feel I have made a choice to not get rich. What I don’t like is the favoritism shown the wealthy. They can send lobbyist who can be heard in Washington. The people who have built this country with their two hands are devalued everytime they can be. When they speak up they are shut up. My trash collector does more for this country than speculators do. Why not value him?

    • About the birth certificate: I have a letter that proves Obama was not born in the United States. He wasn’t born in Kenya, either. He was born in a space ship far above the world.

    • old_blu

      @ ted– Hey ted you know you’re not right, and I don’t mean you’re wrong, you just ain’t right.

    • YepThatTell

      Get over it, dude – we have a President who is 50% black. Can you handle that in 2012? I cannot see any other reason why you idiots will not let the Obama Birth Certificate non-issue die.

    • RUKIDENME

      How many birth certificates do you and your like need to see? You honestly think a President is not thoroughly investigated by the Justice Department before being elected. You can’t even get a driver’s license with out proof of birth. Stop talking like a dope.

      • tedthetruther

        Yeah right. I would like to see just one real one. In New Mexico you can get a driver’s license with mail addressed to occupant as proof. You are the dope. I love liberals because you are fun watching your head explode when you don’t have a coherent argument. Have a great day!

        • RUKIDENME

          So Obama has a driver’s license from New Mexico? Coherent is such a big word for u.

      • Do you have a birth certicate? Is it a United States Citizen one? Would you be willing to make 8 million copies so everyone in the United States could have one? Birthers are fringe lunatics.

        • RUKIDENME

          Maggie I agree totally, the birther’s are nuts! So is bill’s arguments… Obama 2012.

    • rustingdreams

      Have you read any of the posts concerning the difference between Legality and morality?

  • This is just one of countless reasons to hate Mitt Romney and his teabagger supporters. These people are a serious drain on our nation. That’s especially gauling in hard times like these.

    • I think a group that wants to destroy one party and take over the other is kind of scary.

  • howa4x

    Well he put his money into Switzerland, the Caymans and Bermuda and I think that is where the smoking guns lay on taxes, and why he won’t revel them. Obama should keep pounding him on that.

  • lkreu

    I just love to hear the Republicans complain about the % of people who don’t pay income tax, never mind that they are too young, too old, or too poor, they don’t care about details. But, not one of them has a thing to say about this, if its true.

  • investments and tithes a tenth of his income to his Church (in addition to supporting other charities.)/// and im sure the sneaky SOB has his own way for haveing those who he so call give money too he gets kick backs from them . what ppl. you dont thing that romney would ever do something like that ? ( dont be so blind and dumb ppl. ) he is the true and most evil anti-christ and the more he make and the more he hurts one things what of the 2 make him feel better . im sure its a 50/50

  • tedthetruther

    Well SaneJane, you and I agree on something! We are hiring a president, not a kindergarten teacher. Therefore, I find it amazing you feel Obama should be less vetted than a kindergarten teacher. You seem to feel following the tax code is un-american and immoral. Mitt Romney did not create our totally messed up tax code; it was created in equal measures by self serving democrat and republican legislators. As a follow-up question, how did a poor community organizer become a multimillionaire (1%’er). Oh yeah, he took care of himself on his modest government salary and a couple of ghost written books

    • Keep it real. Obama was less vetted than a kinderegarden teacher? Do you really believe such nonsense?

      • YepThatTell

        Pathetic right-wing extremist Teabagger-GOP – apologists will believe anything. They are the pawns of the corporate interests that are running – and ruining – this country.

    • Gammaanya

      He was a lawyer first, being community organizer (please define how do you see anything bad in COMMUNITY organizing). He became Senator, Michele worked as a lawyer, etc, they do not lived in a big mansion, average house in nice neighborhood, will not be building elevators for his cars (they had 2 cars nothing fancy shmancy) and yes he wrote his books. NO ghost writers. He did get NOBEL prize (donated the money)
      Question for you – How did Sarah Palin become mnillionaire??? She wrote (ghost writer) stupid book, quit her job, making stupid comments everytime she opens her mouth, once she gets low on money she will come out and start trashing Obama and everybody who doesn’t think like her. Another Bachmann, who when she needs attention becomes accusing people of treason. Maybe that’s why we had the shooting in Wisconsin, another racist pig listenning to another racist. Uneducated people like Sarah, Michelle and their followers did not know that Shiks not Muslims.Christians doing the Unchristian things. Pray on Sunday and kill on Monday. Hypocrites.
      Romney bankrupted 8 corp. in 9 yrs and he could have made money under bankrupcy laws and not to pay ANY taxes at all. Depends what bankrupcy and depends on lender if they COD. Form 1099-C. Nobody said or EVER confirmed that he was audited by IRS, only Romney said that and he knows that IRS can not say anything about ANYBODY.
      Obviously if Obama were white we would not have this circus would we????
      Obama ‘s income for 2010 was less than $900K and he paid 21% taxes vs Romney’s 25M and 13.7%
      Do you get my drift??? I guess NOT, Guess what no matter what, Obama will survive, he will have a healthcare (you will have vouchers worth about 5-6K), nice pension (on your dime) and he can go back to be a lawyer if he choses to and I am sure he will be successful, and even without lifting his finger he can have nice and comfy life. How about you under Romney and his Teabaggers???? How do you see yourself under Mutt Romney???
      Yep, his trickle down wealth will trickle down to you. I do taxes for the last 30 yrs and if you only know what I know you wold be singing a different song.
      It’s about POLITICS, POWER AND MONEY, it has nothing to do with the Country and it’s people. You only county in the voting booth, after that U R Irrelevant, and you will ilike irrelevance a lot less. I predict Mutt/Ryan ticket and God Help Us All

  • tedthetruther

    Maggie, that would explain the MARS Rover! It’s going there to pick up his relatives.

  • I pay my fair share and I expect my President to do the same . I don’t agree that he or she should look for ways to get out of paying their taxes legal or not ,why not pay the money that you pay somebody to get you out of paying your taxes to our Government so we can erase the hugh debt that his party has thrust upon us and blamed on President Obama .President Obama could not have spent the money that he is accused of because he did not have it to spend . The House would not give it to him and everybody knows that if they would just admitt it .

  • dljones

    Having only worked in government, why is Dirty Harry one of the richest? Being frugal living at the Ritz Carlton and residence in Nevada, or maybe collecting road side bottles and aluminum cans? He is a fugitive from the truth.

    With the guidance of my CPA I pay taxes in accordance with and as mandated by law whether it be fruit loops or loop holes.

  • Melvin Chatman

    ROMNEYHOOD!

  • I remember during the debate when Romney said “I like to fire people” , so this tells me he
    he likes POWER & the Bible says we are to be humble, I don t believe he can handle POWER.
    Secondly: I believe people should read up on the MORMON religion where they believe there are more than one God, the Bible says there is the Father, Son & Holy Spirit (all in one), the Mormon religion is listed in the books of being a CULT. I sincerely hope people realizes what/ who they are voting for just to remain a Republican. I believe that the reason the Republicans have been able to raise 1.4 million & the Democrats only raised $75,000 is because the Republicans , most of them, are more wealthy than most Democrats.

    I would never vote for Romney for I don t believe he can be trusted in many ways, he claims he has high morals, but even if he does , morals dont cut it, there are many more issues involved in the big picture here. I am hoping and praying Obama will remain the President of the United States so us middle class people can at least stay middle class people & not be taken down into poverty level when he cuts Social Security & raises the taxes on the middle class people & continues to give the tax breaks to the very wealthy.

    I am just a Registered Nurse, I am 77 yrs. old & still working. It is o k I am middle class
    even though I have worked most all my life, I just want this country to be Blessed by God
    & fairness to be in play. PS: when a person has morals (as Romney claims) people should be
    treated equal, fair, ALL PEOPLE ARE CREATED EQUAL, he needs to remember this.

    Doris Cunningham, R. N. Marion, Ohio 43302

  • tedthetruther

    Yes, he was a lawyer first but both he and his wife had to surrender their law licenses to avoid having them revoked. You’ve gotten a bit off topic here–now Sarah Palin is responsible for a crazy man in Wisconsin?!? Obama is a self dealing, narcissist and you don’t see his corrupt use of power and arrogance? Chicago politics at its best! He wrangles a state senator position and his wife gets a $200K pay raise to push poor Medicaid patients out of the University of Chicago Hospital system and over to Stroger Hospital. When he wrangles the US senator position, she “retires” and her position is eliminated (a position that was created just for her). They spend millions on vacations as Romney probably does–the only difference is Romney uses his money and Obama uses our money! How corrupt can you get?

  • ObozoMustGo

    Harry Reid is a senile old piece of crap that should get out while he still only considered mostly a fool, and not yet a complete fool!

    Have a nice day!

    All that seems indispensible in stating the account between the dead and the living, is to see that the debts against the latter do not exceed the advances made by the former. – James Madison

    • old_blu

      @ Bozo– Usually you have a pertinent agrument I expect better.

      • ObozoMustGo

        It’s my boy, Blu! What up Blu?

        I agree with you Blu. Not much time today. Just throwing a grenade into the septic tank called “The Memo” to infuriate the leftist turds floating around in here.

        Have a great day, Blu!

        America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. – Abraham Lincoln

        • old_blu

          Now that’s funny, thanks for the smile. : ))

          • ObozoMustGo

            I’m here to help, Blu… I’m here to help…

            Have a great day, buddy!

            “America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.” – Abraham Lincoln

        • RUKIDENME

          Still at it, have u had that mental health check yet? Turd is such an intelligent word for you…

  • KEEPING IT THOUGTHFULLY HONEST: WELL PUNK, MAKE MY AND CLINTS DAY! Hey Mr. Romney shut everyone up! THE INCONVENIENT TRUTH: IS to go on the record and tell all these doubters and skeptics that you paid more 14% in all of your past ten years, then, show them all the tax returns to SHUT THEM UP! That way you can embarrass those in the “liberal” press that they are THE REAL LIARS, LIARS, PANTS ON FIRE! Show’ em you are stand up guy, not a Wimp!

  • I do not doubt that Mitt bragged to others that he paid no taxes – that may not mean zero. I am upset at the 13.9%rate he will admitt too! I am also upset at the millions he has in a totally tax free IRA account where yearly contributios are limited, for the rest of us.

    Mitt Romney is the poster boy for what is wrong with our economy and tax code.

    Vote !

    • ObozoMustGo

      Joan… didn’t I cover this with you before? Did someone slam you in the head with a baseball bat yet again?

      What kind of idiot is upset at another’s wealth? What kind of moron is angry at success? You are the kind of useful idiot, Joan, that would vote for your own enslavement at the hands of a tyrant just so you could feel better about the fact that guys like Mitt Romney have “gotten their due punishment” for being better than you.

      Your mentality is EXACTLY what is wrong with America today. Complete, unbridled jealousy and envy combined with being too damned stupid to know it!

      Have a nice day!

      “America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.” – Abraham Lincoln

  • montanabill

    That’s like having the snake that bit you say you taste good.
    What percentage of the 3,000,000+ millionaires paid no taxes? 0.05%
    What was the average tax rate of all the millionaires: 24%
    Did @LOLGOP ignore all of his/her legal deductions so they could pay a larger tax bill?
    Does the entire Democrat population ignore their legal tax deductions so they can pay a higher tax people?
    Inquiring minds want to know.

    • ObozoMustGo

      I can answer that question for you, Montana…. uhhh…. NO! They are hypocrites. And liars to boot.

      They govern their own lives and finances like conservatives, but wish for you and I to be the financiers of their charitable giving. Just like any other leftist freak, spending someone else’s money for their own gain, and making you feel bad about not wanting to finance them, is their modus operandi.

      For any of you useful idiots or leftist freaks that want to put your money where you fetid rotten pie holes are, you are welcome to pay as much to the government as you wish. Here is the site.

      www dot pay dot gov/paygov/forms/formInstance dothtml?agencyFormId=23779454
      (because they don’t allow links, replace the “dot” with the period “.” of course)

      Have a great day, Montana!

      “America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.” – Abraham Lincoln

  • bcarreiro

    Donate means donate, it doesnt mean you get anything back the following yr. This is why congressional republicans block obama and we the people from a change in the right direction….their whole world would be crumbled if the 1500 millionares had to pay more in taxes. If they had to work a job for minimum wage and were a single parent that would change their perspective altogether. We the people need to abolish congress’s right to block a bill from the president that could help milllions of americans and the fools who are in now.

  • tedthetruther

    Hey Bigspender, I assume you’re spending other people’s money–but I digress. Typical Leftist response; when you can’t argue the merits of anything, just make dumbass remarks and attack the messenger.
    P.S. At least I know who my parents are!

    • Your parents names are easy to remember because they’re siblings.

  • that is pure fear munging,America is the biggest consumer market in the world..if these corporations decides to move overseas let them,
    and triple tax them for products they bring back into the US.and use the proceeds to generate work in badly need sectors..roads, schools high speed rail etc..
    its just pure bolony that higher taxes results in negative growth..
    tell the to Switzerland with over 50% tax rates,with one of the best
    living standards in the world
    the irony is, that’s one of the places Romney has his starch

  • The Tax Policy Center of the Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute estimated in 2010 that 45 percent of all households would have no federal income tax liability for the 2009 tax year. That includes people who paid no income tax during the year and people who paid income tax but got back a refund for every cent they paid. That 45 percent figure came after a recession had driven unemployment up and wages down. Before the recession, in 2006, the non-partisan Tax Foundation research group estimated that about 41 percent of U.S. households had no federal income tax liability.

    The net of it is that more folks paid Federal Income taxes under Bush than they did under Obama.

    • RUKIDENME

      Are you serious, Bush created the worst recession since the great depression, income for the middle class and lower class is at an all time low, so yeah you can’t pay taxes on poverty level income. Get real……

  • 1AmericanHoney27

    tedthetruther……Just curious as to when did you became the Obama’s banker since you seem to think you know who pays for his trips or his family’s for that matter.. Everyone tries to say that the Obama family has everything bought and paid for by the government …. The Obama’s haven’t had anymore paid for by government than any other president…. MittWit on the other hand is vacationing with donations from the Republi-prick campaign fund so that he can show his ass in different countries, different languages n different time zones.. Thank God the leaders of those countries n their people realize he doesn’t represent the people of America only the fact he’s just one i1AmericanHoney27diot representing a very few Dumbasses…

    • RUKIDENME

      Save your breath, tedthetruther and obozomustgo just spew hate…They can’t accept a black President, especially since he is smarter than them. Of course any one seems to be smarter than them.

  • 1standlastword

    I never thought things in this country could get so bad that people would prefer a man with sociopathic tendencies for POTUS over a man they distrust because of his humanitarianism and gentle nature.

    These are clear signs that our country is in free fall from glory and grace.

    So bad…so sad:-(

  • As a resident of Nevada (Las Vegas), I have personally met Harry Reid. I have faith in Harry and know he is a fighter. All the negative opinions of Harry will not succeed as he will be re-elected for the Senate….

  • grantparker

    Well done, Harry Reid. That was a great “gotcha” for “RomneyHood” who wants to rob from the poor and give to the rich.

  • To be completely honest here — Harry Reid HAS NOT paid any taxes doing his whole political career and I can prove it right here now..

    Reid is a political figure and any money Reid makes comes from the tax payers So therefore any taxes Reid may have paid if any were paid by the tax payers. If Reid made money off investments he did so at the expense of the tax payers because it was tax payers money that paid him and which enabled the poor excuse of a human beng Reid to do so…

    • Hi, Jeff,

      Have you ever considered taking a class in elementary logic? It would be a good idea if you plan to continue making such posts.

  • Ibsyboy

    Romney knows money, ho0w to earn it, and how to save it. Now that may sound like good qualities. But, not for the POTUS. Great for Bain, Etc. But the USA is a diversified country. Multi-Cultural, many levels of economic existences, Racial tense, Misogynistic, Poverty. He would be way in over his head. In business there is a mono-focused approach. A business plan. The USA is a living breathing entity with many symptoms of illness. Romney is not capable of dealing with such an entity. It’s not a meeting where you decide to implement and it’s done. You are obligated to consider the human element to governing 300 million people, it’s not like managing 300 million dollars. Money doesn’t feel pain.

  • berrysoeto

    Coming from a man who has never released a tax return and who refuses to claim as income donations from native American gambling casinos to pay for his 5 star hotel he lives in in DC

  • adler56

    williard is not worthy of US citizenship- kick his lying butt to the curb.

  • 1TexasHoney27

    Well folks I’m back…!!!!!!!!!!. New email n username n password . Thanks out to my friends for the 411 that my old account had been compromised…. posts showing up everywhere. No doubt the GOP hard at work trying to keep a good woman from speaking out against the lies they spread. In reading I’ve learned evidently that “tedthetruther” is now President Obamas banker since he thinks he knows who pays for what for his family. President Obama n family Don’t get any more perks as did all the Presidents before him. So much being focused on the wrong areas. Focus on such as MittWit going abroad n making an ass of himself… Thank God he’ll NEVER go as The President Of the United States. Focus on the Republi-pricks trying to gain more at the expense of the hard working middle-class which is truely the back bone of our nation . Focus on the fact The Fat Cats are still lining their pockets at our expense. Theyon’t want equality in this country…. They don’t want everyone to go to the doctor as they do… They spend more time on vacation than in session. Thru their loop holes pay for little while we pick up their tabs… Both parties are guilty of this just some individuals more than others…. Howdy Doody ( John Boehner) is one of the worse do nothings to ever hold the seat he fills. I noticed my old nimises “NoObamaWon’tGo” is still preaching his B.S. to anyone that will listen . Well approx 90 days n I’ll send you a box of tissues to wipe your tears. Surely President Obama seated for his second term will leave you no reason to lick that Prep H tube to shut you up. For those that Don’t know I hated to sign in as 1 AmericanHoney27 now you’ll hear me as 1TexasHoney27…. Have a good evening all…. OBAMA/BIDEN. 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • How did you get a new avatar?

      • 1TexasHoney27

        Trying to reach you thru fb…. Did you receive it?

  • rustingdreams

    Replying to montanabill. Big Sky, we’ve discussed this before and agree that eventually little bits and pieces do trickle down, but in the meantime those at the top reap a lot more than their fair share. Mitt’s a perfect example of what I’m talking about! The POTUS’s ideas are much better.

  • William Deutschlander

    The truth is, those low wage earners who pay little or nothing to the IRS as INCOME TAXES, have very little income!

    The truth is, those high wage earners and dividend clippers who pay little or nothing to the IRS as TAXES, have very significant income.

    The truth is, the income tax program was originaly designed in a manner that those who benefited the most in our Democracy, would share their privilidge by paying a larger percentage of the cost to administer the Government that made their success possible.

    It is evident that greed has overcome this Christian basic!

  • Montana Bill, as the adage says, “The proof of the pudding is in the eating.” Trickle down economics was started in 2001. That means we have had a strong economy since 2001, as it is still in place.

  • Who cares about this class-warfare crap, the economy under Obama is terrible, the last recession, that was blamed on Bush ended in 2009. Romney paid Millions in taxes when he earned his money, and paid another 15% on top of that when he invested it. Romney created many good jobs, gives 10% for years to charity, gave ALL of his father’s inheritance to his father’s college, and made all his money on his own because of the freedom offered all of us in America. Or would people rather have a cap on what they can earn, a cap on what size home they have, a cap on their Freedom?
    I would worry more about what Obama does with OUR tax money, that what Romney does with his earned money. By the way, the wealthy already pay way more than their “fair share” than the rest of us, even with “loop-holes”.

  • rockwoman

    MITT ROMNEY IS JUST ANOTHER RICH REPUBLICAN TRYING TO FIND ALL LOOPHOLE’S HE CAN FIND TO KEEP AS MUCH MONEY FOR HIS OWN GREEDY SELF AS THE REST OF THOSE GREEDY REPUBLICANS DO!!!
    YET THOSE SAME REPUBLICANS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SO RELIGIOUS, AND THINK SO MUCH OF GOD, THAT THEY ALL NEED TO LOOK UP THE WORD MAMMON AND TAKE A BIBLE RECOURSE OF MAMMON AND WHAT MAMMON STANDS FOR SO THEY CAN KNOW THAT THE REST OF US THAT KNOW ALL ABOUT MAMMON ARE WATCHING THEM TO SEE HOW THEY ACT AND WHAT THEY DO BECAUSE, WE WHO KNOW AND WHO TRUELY TRY TO LIVE OUR LIVES TO SERVE GOD, WE KNOW “YOU CANNOT SERVE TWO MASTERS” YOU CANNOT SERVE GOD AND SERVE MAMMON” AND BY THAT I AM TALKING ABOUT, PUTTING MONEY FIRST BEFORE GOD’S CHILDREN, OUR BROTHEREN THEIR BROTHEREN. FOR IF THEY DO, THEY WILL LOVE ONE AND DESPISE THE OTHER”
    NOT TO MENTION THE REPUBLICANS THAT SEND JOBS OVER SEAS, TO SAVE THEMSELVES THAT MAMMON MONEY, INSTEAD OF KEEPING THOSE SAME JOBS HERE IN THE U.S. FOR THEIR OWN AMERICAN BROTHERS TO WORK AT!
    SHAME SHAME ON YOU!!! WE ARE WATCHING YOU GREEDY REPUBLICANS AND SO IS GOD!!!
    IT MAKES ME SO ANGRY, THAT THEY BLAME PRESIDENT OBAMA FOR SOMETHING THAT HE HAS NOT EVER DONE AND HAS BEEN TRYING HIS HARDEST TO GET THOSE SAME REPUBLICANS TO GET THOSE JOBS BACK TO THE U.S.
    THE REPUBLICANS WITH BILLIONS AND MILLIONS, HAVE BEEN SELLING THE REST OF US OUT HERE IN THE U.S. ALL BECAUSE OF THEIR LOVE OF MONEY AND MAMMON!!!
    THE REST OF US HAVE TO SUFFER BECAUSE OF THE GREEDY AND THE SELFISH AND I AM GETTING SICK OF IT AND SICK OF THEM!!!

    I KNOW NOT ALL REPUBLICANS ARE GREEDY AND FOLLOW MAMMON BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH, YOU WHO ARE REPUBLICANS, AND I URGE YOU TO DO YOUR RESEARCH AND FIND OUT WHICH REPUBLICANS HAVE DONE THIS, OR ARE DOING THIS, OR IF THEY HAVE HAD ANY KNOWLEDGE OF THEM THAT DO THIS AND NOT VOTE FOR THESE “REPUBLICANS”!!! DO NOT VOTE FOR THESE “REPUBLICANS” JUST BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THEY ARE “REPUBLICANS ” !!! DO YOUR RESEARCH!!!

  • It is sad that we even need to debate whether or not our system of taxation and commerce is RIGGED; Americans are so hypnotized by the propaganda of the Anglo-Judaic Global Corporatocracy that they have failed to recognize that FREE ENTERPRISE has nothing to do with the system that we have in place.

  • turnipgreens

    I think I don’t really care about how much Mitt has or has not paid in taxes. But, using his own logic, how many jobs has he created in the past twelve years? Not how many jobs he took over with Bain, but how many has he created personally with his hundreds of millions that he is sheltering? Answer those question, Mitt.

  • rich_col

    That why the defict is high, because people like the republician party always scheming, but always want the middle class to paid fees on everything. The republicians party has always been a crooked organization, always get rich off of the poor and middle class working people. yes, Mitt Romeny should show his taxes, because if it was one of the middle class that didn’t show their taxes the IRS will be all over us. The IRS need to get in behind him and others higher income folks to paid there taxes. Billionaire need to stop cheating the government and paid their share, because when you died you cannot take your money or asset with you. You guys need to spread the wealth and repaid the middle class for making you billlionaires.

  • rich_col

    President Barack Obama/Vice President Joe Biden, will win this election and the Democrats will take the House and Senate back. Nancy Pelsosi will get her position back.., then United States will be moving in the right direction. God will bless our President Obama, Vice President Biden and Nancy Pelsosi and President Obama new congress that will be coming soon. Once this happen then President Obama can get his Bills pass,which will help us hard working American People. God has found his leader to run his country, which is President Obama and Vice President Biden. May God Bless them for the Next four years.

    Thank you;