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Friday, October 21, 2016

As the Obama years unfold, observers who lived through the Clinton era sometimes have the eerie feeling that they have been here before – particularly when directing their gaze toward the far right. The roiling paranoia and hatred that marred American politics when Bill and Hillary Clinton were in the White House has resurfaced in attacks on Barack and Michelle Obama who, like the Clintons, have been maligned repeatedly as communist, subversive, Satanic, and above all, illegitimate.

Speaking of illegitimate, the latest assault on the Obama family is a new movie purporting to show that the President’s father was not Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., but an African-American radical and poet named Frank Marshall Davis. There is no more substance to this claim than that the President was actually born in Kenya and educated in an Islamist madrassa.

Taken seriously, this “neo-birther” fable would tend to erode the original “birther” claims. But logic and proof have no impact on such speculations, whose aim is to profit from prejudice and extremism.

Consider the source – in this instance, an individual named Cliff Kincaid, who runs an old extreme-right outfit called Accuracy in Media and, appropriately, venerates the likes of Richard Nixon and Joe McCarthy. The last big plot promoted by Kincaid was the “bipartisan” scheme to portray the “murder” of Clinton White House counsel Vince Foster as a suicide. Among the conspirators fingered by Kincaid in this alleged cover-up was the Republican independent counsel Kenneth Starr, best known for his dogged, intemperate, $50 million effort to remove President Clinton from office.

Now Kincaid is insinuating that Davis was not merely a left-wing mentor who somehow transformed Barack Obama into a Communist – an old theory that first surfaced in 2004 – but Obama’s actual father, too. To Kincaid, the influence of Davis, who died 25 years ago, explains why Obama has pursued policies such as universal health coverage (although AIM has yet to investigate how the Communists duped Romney into that Massachusetts health plan).

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  • William Deutschlander

    When it comes to the GOP, Republican Syndicate they will tell any falsehood (lie) that they can fabricate and spread.

    The GOP, Republican Syndicate is a Cartel that makes all other heinious organizations look like rank amateurs.

    For TRUTH and Ethical Democracy it is imperative that Democratic or Independent candidates be elected to ALL PUBLIC OFFICES!

  • Revcarrie

    What is this world coming to? Don’t we have enough problems with the drought in this country without these lies being spread AND PAID FOR by those who like to follow like sheep to the slaughter house! The Republicans can’t seem to get enough of this crap. They have to make more of it. I wonder who they will look to for their next glass of water or steak dinner while they fight over their right to publish this garbage. Romney is our next Nixon on steroids! Romney doesn’t even hide his stupidity……only how he makes his money and stashes it.

    • Donald Trump is funding all this garbage. There is so much (hate in his spine); it’s affecting the ball spot on his head. Mitt Romney is a racist in the Morman Church. If the Public can’t see through this racist garbage they are blind. Thanks Revcarrie for not being sucked in by these hate ads toward our President and the first Lady.

      • Revcarrie

        Donald Trump needs to find a hole and jump in it. There is a vacant hole in Iraq. Sadam Hussain has moved out of it now. “The Donald” has often stated that he likes to use the money of “other people” for his projects then he expects us to forget he said it when he spouts these crazy things. The trouble is some people listen to him. Some people actually believe him. Some people refuse to do ANY research onANYTHING.

  • Arvid123

    This is an exellent example of why I loath the Republican party. At the heart of conservatisim, is a strong aversion to change. The stronger the aversion, the more conservative. If it is strong enough, hatred towards the one providing change will show itself in all forms of ugly ways. At this point, truth is no longer necesary. For the conservative, opposing something is where their power truly lies and it can be awsome in it’s destructive ways. Take it seriously, because it knows no limit.

    • Don


      • Arvid123

        Your rage is scarry and conservatives are not middle of the roaders. Liberals are those that see an issue that needs correcting. The conservative will object to the proposition to correct it because it means change. Conservatives don’t like change, doesn’t much matter what the proposal might be and it doesn’t much matter what the benefits of the change might be. Since it means change from how something has always been, the conservative will oppose it.

    • Edsanjuan

      Arvid: Your letter is an exellent example of why I loath the DEMOCRAP party. At the heart of LIBERALISM is a strong TENDENCY towards change (FOR THE WORSE !!) The stronger the TENDENCY, the more LIBERAL. If it is strong enough, hatred towards the one that can provide CHANGE FOR THE BETTER will show itself in all forms of ugly ways. At this point, truth is no longer necesary. For the LIBERAL, SUPPORTING a CRAPPY, SOCIALIST MUSLIM “PRESIDENT” (JUST because he is black) is where their power truly lies and it can be awsome in its (NOT it’s, you DOLT! !) destructive ways. Take it seriously, because it knows no limit.

      • Arvid123

        Your viceral rage was quite impressive and scarey, true to form. Here are some issues conservatives were against. Women suffrage, all form of worker rights (such as being compensated from an injurey at the job), social security, the GI Bill after WWII, Truman integrating the military, the ’64 Civil Rights Bill, the ’65 Voting Rights Bill, conservatives killed every anti lynching bill brought before the US Senate. It was 2005 when the Senate offered an apology for it’s inaction on this issue. While the Republicans are working hard to bring about their idiology, the Democrats are dealing with what is. Mit Romney wanted to let the auto industry fold, Obama helped it so it is once again a strong industry with good paying jobs. I’ve been told that it is pointless to argue with people like you, but I do it anyway. I guess I haven’t learned yet.

        • Edsanjuan

          Arvid: Assignment # 1: Learn to write (there is such a thing as grammar !);
          Assignment # 2: Learn what was the Ku Klux Klan and to what Party did its members belong (hint: the Party that uses an ass as its symbol, Arvid !)
          Assignment # 3: When you encounter people that can articulate their ideas and beliefs about this Nation in a MUCH better and intelligent way than you can, don’t hide your IGNORANCE behind such empty phrases as “visceral (NOT viceral, you DOLT!) rage”, and “scary (NOT scarey OR scarry, you DOLT !), true to form” .
          Oh, brother….

          • Arvid123

            You were unable to respond to the examples I gave of conservatives being against issues, but instead, you criticized my grammer. Very poor reaction. Maybe you’re a hot headed redneck that is unable to give a good debate to the issues and needs to nitpick the petty stupid stuff. Once again I’m thinking of those who have told me it’s pointless argueing with people like you.

          • Edsanjuan

            Arvid: Again, please learn proper grammAr and spelling, please ??

        • you are a dingbat, it was the democrats in the south that actually put restrictions on blacks voting, geez where in the name of go do you get your information?

      • obama is the biggest liar around

    • wel, why wont he release his college transcripts, what is he hiding, the most transparent administration is always hiding something, how about those holder files? the ony reason he would not want his college info out there is because they ask–guess what-place of birth, or are his grade that bad?

  • riobob111

    what a bunch of unfounded smut,
    the GOP Republican is after one thing, POWER and doesn’t mind who they throw rocks at. Wake up America, lets get real and realize We are founded by All being equal.
    Get rid of these congressional no accounts and get OUR Country back to its roots

  • And to think that almost 50% of Americans still want to put the Republican party and its allies into the White House and have them lead us. What has happened to this country?

  • riobob111

    Revcarrie has it down to the true point, it is all Gop crap. Lets save America, Take back our jobs at home and get rid of these so-called leaders out for POWER and PERSONAL GAIN

    • Kevin Schmidt

      Last time I checked, the Democratic crap was in control, not the GOP crap.

      • Kevin, the GOP was in control when 9/11 occurred, when irresponsible tax breaks were given to people who do not need them, when we engaged in two wars funded with borrowed money from China, when our government allowed investment banks to gamble in derivatives and the sub-prime scam, when the “enemy combatant” scheme and torture were used, often without evidence of guilt, when Saudi Arabia, the country with the closest links to 9/11 was declared a Most Favored Nation for trade purposes in exchange for lucrative contracts, when hyperbole and deceit were used to justify the invasion and destruction of a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 to guarantee the re-election of an ambivalent and misunderestimated President, and reward the faithful with sole source contracts that cost taxpayers billions of dollars with nothing to show for it.

        • jarheadgene

          COME ON….name names….GW Bush…Dick(Head) Cheney…Halliburton/KBR. Low Life Scummy Lying Chicken Hawks (with every one elses kids).

      • NO the GOP is in control THEY run Congress

      • Corporate structure is in control. That’s the Citizens United decision. Or is it? We’ll see in November.

        • rustacus21

          … as long as we ALL vote Liberal/Progressive across the board!!!

      • DurdyDawg

        Fact is..Crap is crap, thus the focus revolves around the party who’s chewing on the bone at the given time. Blame them both, do something about them.. Vote in a new batch of cookies, make them compromise on every issue and threaten them with their jobs and the benefits that go with it if they don’t work for the people AND show progress in their efforts. Otherwise keep sniffing the crap. Pubs blame Obama for our current woes which is typical for a current leader but as DV pointed out, the Pubs’ goofs of their tenure is still affecting everyone and continues today with filibusters, misplaced bills and outright lies.. The Pubs are sick of what’s going on since Obama was sworn in.. The Dems sickness spans nearly twelve years with the realization that today’s problems would have been lessened had it not have been for the eight years prior.

      • Don


      • rustacus21

        U must have missed the part where the Democrat came to America’s rescue. Again. By the way, what did conservatives achieve on YOUR behalf when they were in the W.H.? But more to the point, why is the GOP in the way of progress? The recovery isn’t happening b/c of conservatives who keep saying “no” to proposals that will create new, high-paying jobs for U & plenty of other Americans! Is that a problem? To ‘reverse’ & ‘disappear’ the Republican crap of 2001-2009, that hasn’t yet gone away? B/c Republicans won’t let that ‘crap’ get flushed?

      • riobob111

        How to get started making money from your home

        But Tom wanted to resk it; so we slid in thereand got three candles, and Tom laid five cents on the table for pay. amani wulfweardsweorth

    • riobob111! People like you, will never get ahead in life, with ignorants and being stupid. What are you white people afraid of. I guess you like all the hate ads against our President and the first Lady. All you hate radical groups in the US will all lose the fight to elect Mitt Romeny into Office. Barack Obama will win a second term in Office as the US President.

  • AS a independent I only have one question on this election : Were you better off in 1004 7 2005 before the democrats took over the house and 2008 when the democrats controlled the whole government? If your answer is no then vote for Obama. if your answer is yes vote for Romney. For get the media nonsense, it is about you and your family how you are doing living with this current government.

    • Kevin Schmidt

      You offer only a false choice. Here’s a better question to ask:

      Would you have been better off under an independent instead of under either a Fascist Democrat or a Fascist Republican who both bow to the same Gilded Fascist Bilderberg Elite?

      • tokoloshi27

        Didn’t you mean a “communist” democrat and a fascist republican?

        • No Toko, a mandate that forces people to get coverage from for profit insurance companies is the anti-thesis of communism.

          • tokoloshi27

            Dom; didn’t both “ists” derive from basic marxist thought? After all the national socialists – the most dominant of the the three fascist regimes that kicked Europe over in the 1930s, schism from the soviet-style communists? There are many forms, witness the people’s republic of Korea vs Scandinavian socialists, that are quite happy stringing along some capitalist lackeys.

    • In 2004 and 2005 people were starting to lose their homes due the beginning of the housing market crisis. The Bush administration job creation record was miserable.

      The Democrats never had real control of both houses in the OBAMA administration as Bush did in his first term.

      The House went democratic in 2006, started working as a House in 2007.

      But the FILIBUSTERING BY THE SENATE GOP members really ruled the process of passing legislation. And that is the way it is still working as late as the SENATE GOP FILIBUSTERS of The Disclose Act.

      Very few are doing better than those in 2007, 2008 and the first part of 2009. Remember we were in the great recession (actually a second depression) and it is taking time to recover, especially when a OBSTRUCTIVE HOUSE is prevalent.

      • jarheadgene

        Don’t forget the # 1 exit polling in 2006, as to why the GOP got their ASSES handed to them was as a referendum to the IRAQ War….#1 reason to send a message to Cheney….who cares about Bush he was a puppet…GET OUT OF IRAQ. The Democrats didn’t HEAR…or weren’t listening so $ BILLIONS $ of money spent on KBR and Halliburton (DICK’s places) with lower taxes , for the first time during any war in the U.S., and mounting Debt and the TEA Party swoops in under a GOP flag and take over Congress and Senate again in 2010. And because lobbyist monies and racism still exists, even in the Dems side of the house, Obama never had control.

      • rozlee

        The better question to ask is if are you better off with the guys that caused the economy to go off the cliff or the ones who tried to stop it? The real estate bubble, the Wall St. collapse, the Great Recession, the deficit and it’s resultant first loans from China all started during 2000-2008. Obama 2012!

    • Gammaanya

      Currently Dems Cntrol but they need 60 Republican votes to pass anything and then it goes to the House that Controls every penny Pres. spends. Even if passes the Dem it will stall in the House either by loss of 60 votes or flibuster. So far whatever Obama agreed with them on certain project they flip and vote NO or filibuster. I don’t understand which part of McConnell statement did not get through you. THEIR GOAL IS TO MAKE OBAMA 1TERM PRESIDENT ,PERIOD. SOme people say that Obama is not creating jobs, GOP says that President did not signed any of their proposal on so called jobs. What jobs they did ppropose?? Keystone pipeline??? They attached the stupid pipeline to everything they can because they know it will not pass Congress, and I bet you if it would pass Congress that means Obama agrees with them, so the House will flip or filibuster with another excuse. For the past years GOP did nothing except bash Obama, vote on abortions law, supression of voter right (communism), racism (will not admit publically – cowards), repeal ACA because it benefit all and is done on Obama watch. Now they scream it’s a tax – NOT The list goes on and on …. Put your country first, with out country you like a fish out of water. Just remember one thing – party always change, country stays forever. ALways country do better under Democrats than Republicans. W/out Liberals we would not have Nat’l Parks, etc. SS, Medicare and Public Education and SOCIALISTIC programs – so what is so bad about it????If the so called job creators that are taking money for the last 6 yrs create the jobs they suppose to do we would be better off. Be just, don’t forget 2 wars and Part D Medicare was on Credit card under Bush and Republicans. NONE of them wre paid for and was passed to Obama who under the circumstances (also add the natural disaster that occured and still occuring) have to add to their budget. It’s like you carry your wife Christmas sho[[ing fomr years ago etc. You get my drift?? Maybe not, you only worry if you better off then or now. It do not take 2-3 yrs to fix something nthat was blown over in 8 yrs and to keep swimming. Actually Obama is doing a good job keeping the head above the water, otherwise we all would have drowned.

  • The GOP, including elected officials who should know better and who should set an example by showing respect towards our institutions, our leaders and our system of government, have gone well beyond the usual claims of “communist, socialist, liberal, and questioning the birthplace of an incumbent President even after he produced a birth certificate identical to what the rest of us have. The epitomy of disrespecct towards the Office of the Presidency occurred when a congressman called President Obama a liar during a State of the Union Address that was being broadcast to almost every nation on Earth. Instead of a reprimand, the Tea Party rank and file praised the courage of the congressman and joined him in his Limbaughesque claims without ever producing evidence to substantiate their claims. Perhaps the DNC should lower itself to the same level the GOP operates in and ask Mitt Romney to produce his birth certificate. After all, he boasted of his Mexican heritage during a speech to a Latino audience, his father was born in a Mormon commune, and his grandfather was one of the founders of the commune where he lived happily with his harem in accordance with the teachings of Joseph Smith.

  • 2Gospel_Sngr2

    There are some really sick people in this world and the GOPers and “teavangelicals” lead the pack of mentality unstable souls. They are their own worst enemies. Hatred will eventually consume them.

    • DurdyDawg

      Possibly, but in the meantime their having a grand old time pezzing out the lies and innuendos. I mean, what level of hell would you think these lunatics would deserve if being a Tpee’er was a sin?

    • Arvid123

      I believe Nixon was consumed by hatred.

  • tokoloshi27

    This whole thing cracks me up. On the one hand the current President is talking about his prospective main opponent being a whiner. Here we have this piece where some pickled in bile types are being characterized by some other pickled in bile type of the polar opposite persuasion – and judging by some of the previous comments some people are shocked by this narrative.

    Aren’t we just being very post-racial bigots here? Have we no sense of humor? This is funny stuff, no one should give a north bound rat’s southern end about who the man’s father was or was not. It’s just a weak point in the true-believers’ logic-proof armor, and the goading goes on.

    • SaneJane

      It is funny to me but also tragic because here in Alabama most people eagerly lap up and swallow every outrageous claim made by the right.

      • Arvid123

        I guess the stupidity you know is better than the intelligence you don’t understand.

  • It doesn’t matter how much proof Barack Obama offers, the top priority for the GOP has been and remains making sure he is a one term President and nothing will stand on their way to achieve their goal. If the President produced a photo of himself emerging from the birth canal with Mt. Kaala in the background, the birthers will assure their flock that it is actually Mount Kenya on steroids, and they will accept the explanation.

    • tokoloshi27

      Don’t be silly; neither “side” can do credible “proof”, they are all bent.

  • It is about time our president unlocks his ‘so private’ information regarding his past. What is he really hiding or if not hiding, what kind of stupid game is he trying to play. Time to throw out the Obama Koolaide and disclose his past once and for all. Most of us has lost all faith in this guy simply due to the lies and games he plays, and it is time people wake up and see through this level of crap. Any body who continues to play these games, blame somebody else and act as smug as he does is anything but a leader of anybody. Come on Obama, either lead or get out and let somebody else in who can be a ‘leader’ and get this great country where it once was. Stop the blame game and attacking somebody else just to keep your own record away from people to see and talk about. I am one Democrat who is completely disgusted with this whole administration and the games they play. It is just plain sickening to listen to them.

    • karinursula

      What past do you want him to disclose??

    • rozlee

      What private information, dufus?

    • Not as sickening as it is listening to you mindlessly rebleat the wingnut blathering points then try to claim a position as a disaffected Democrat. Got any suggestions as to who this real leader might be?It’s surely not the Mittster. He couldn’t lead a one float, one band parade.


    The GOP have convinved a lot of Americans that they must have ‘A White Man In The White House’!

  • I have been saying for a while that the right-wing Conservatives have lost their minds. I haven’t seen this story in the Yahoo blog, as of yet, but I would bet its coming. They are really out of their minds on that blog. You would think after silly impeachment, government shut downs, and radical candidates that have cost them elections and majorities in the Congress they would go easy and radical behaviors, word and actions. You would think. But that is the problem, they do not think. They are positive they are right. Personally, I hope they keep talking because I would much prefer the current President again than a Romney Presidency.

  • Don’t forget Trump!

    • jarheadgene

      Most of us would like to forget about him, but like a bad penny he keeps showing up with his big mouth and his bad comb-over haircut.

  • lambypie

    Wealth Republicans are nothing more than spoiled brats. If they can’t get their way they will throw a temper tantrum (enters Rush Limbaugh) the way Tricky Dick did in the early 60’s and nothing has changed except the magnitude or the expense of the tantrums. All I can say is GROW UP! GET OVER IT!

  • joujou228

    I got a robbo call yesterday calling President Obama everything from the devil to the anti-christ. This is the way the GOP roll.

  • Jim

    Extremism, on other spectrum, is abhorrent. Unfortunately, extremists dominate our media

  • Landsende

    The teapublican nut jobs are at it again. The more outrageous the lies the more the so called Christian conservatives believe them. They’re like cattle being led to their own slaughter because they can’t think or reason for themselves. They listen to Faux news, Rush Limbag, Glenn Beck, and Ann Coulter and believe anything they say is gospel. They have never learned to think and rationalize for themselves. If you ask them where their proof is, they say I heard it on Faux news so it must be true. Wake up teapublicans before we all fall off that cliff and end up with more of the Bush years.

    • Arvid123

      I think the National Memo did a story on Fox News. A study had been done that showed people that watched Fox News new less of world events than people that didn’t watch any news. The question was then raised, “is Fox News making people dumb?”

  • Fear and loathing seem to be all the have to validate their miserable lives. I find it hard to grasp the need for such hatred and distrust. Distrust of our valuable institutions, ideals and way of life is growing and infecting all aspect of daily existence. I don’t want to believe that most, if not all, of this nonsense is based upon the color of our President. However, it gets harder and harder each and every day to cling to that belief.

    Lets face it, white men are a very fearful lot and always have been. Why is the question which I leave to the more informed to judge. The country has a long history of fear of the ‘other,’ and in particular those of color. First it was fear of the red man, followed by fear of the brown man, the yellow man and the black man. Have I left anyone out? Today, at least in the republican party, I would add fear of distrust of the uterus.

    Back in the 40’s, when I grew up, we believed the national story of the land of the free and the home of the brave. What happened to that story, or was it a myth from the start? There are far too many of our fellow citizens afraid of their own shadows. Fear of Obama’s black army coming to get their Bibles, guns and other such twaddle that is suppose to replace reason and reality. Is it really crumbling before our eyes? I hope that we can reverse the negativity trend and let our better angels resume their rightful place.

  • sleeprn01

    If I’m not mistaken, even if President Obama was born in a foreign country would he not be a US citizen because his mother was a US citizen. I have another question, if you get too close to one of these slime balls, can their slime get on you and make you slimy also? That may be why they seem to travel in herds! On the serious side I think that Mr. E. J. Dionne hit the nail on the head in yesterdays column. Much of the angst that we see toward president is racial in nature. As long as the GOP can keep it’s conservative base wound up by spreading fear and paranoia. This is done using very inflammatory words such as :black radical, dictator, Hitler, foreigner, ignorant, liar (during State of the Union Address), magic negro, Marxist, Muslim, racist, ” not like you and me”, socialist, terrorist, unqualified, I think that I could go on but I think that you get the picture. Last night on TV I saw a video clip of Rush Limbaugh attacking the president. Two things struck me while I watched the video: his attacks were personal and you hear the hate in his voice and it appeared to me that he was totally out of control. If this is the best that the republican party do for a spokesperson we are in trouble. It seems to me that we have turned back the hands of time to 1974. This campaign seems to be more and more like that campaign in 1974. The Dems need to be on guard for a second round of “Operation Gemstone”. Forewarned is forearmed!!

  • I was wondering the very same thing. Just what do such people think Obama is hiding? Perhaps if they would read the two books the President wrote before taking office they could find the answers they are looking for. His story is all there for the taking…warts and all.

  • davia55

    Hey Great Idea…..keep writing about crap like this with no substance or proof where it came from, (or if it came from anywhere). Keep people gossiping about usless crap, and maybe we will forget the mess the country is in. This article is a new low! Lets talk about real issues, where the country is now, and how it can be mended. Man oh Man…this this country is like Humpty Dumpty and I don’t know if we will ever be able to be put back together. I will tell you one thing, useless articles about utter gossip is for the clueless to spew off insults on blogs. Give the American public some credit, they are smart people and maybe given half a chance might help sort this mess out.

  • Don


  • ObozoMustGo

    George Bush, Queen Elizabeth, and Vladimir Putin all 3 die and go to hell.

    While walking around and exploring the premises, they spy a red phone and ask what the phone is for.

    The devil tells them that it is for calling back to Earth.

    Putin asks to call Russia and talks for 5 minutes. When he has finished the devil informs him that the cost is 1 million dollars, so Putin writes him a check.

    Next Queen Elizabeth calls England and talks for 30 minutes. When she hangs up the devil informs her that the cost is 6 million dollars, so she writes him a check.

    Finally George Bush gets his turn and talks for 4 hours. When he finishes the devil informs him that the cost is $5.00.

    When Putin hears this he goes ballistic and asks the devil why Bush gets to call the USA so cheaply.

    The devil smiles and says, “Since Obama took over, the country has gone to hell, so it’s a local call.”

    Have a nice day!

    • Romney, Rove, Koch Brothers Just To Name A Few Are Part Of That Circle Of Demons You Just Named!! They Have A Main Thing In Common They All Are MONEY HOARDERS AND WILL DO AND SAY ANYTHING TO GET MORE!!

    • rozlee

      In case you didn’t notice, Bush II took a surplus and turned it into a deficit two years after he came in office, which resulted in our first loans from China, and wars that have added up to 3 trillion dollars as well as the exploding of the national debt from a recession he created and interest on the debt we owe. I’m glad you realized his crimes and sent him to hell.

      • ObozoMustGo

        How quaint… an Obozo zombie concerned with the national debt and spending!

        Have a nice day!

        • rozlee

          How quaint, a conservatard concerned with the national debt and spending considering how the administrations of Reagan and the two Bushes are the ones who ran up the deficit with their spending and tax cuts for the mega rich!

          Have a nice day!

          • ObozoMustGo

            Hi Roz! Long time no speak. How are you? I hope you are well.

            I like you but you are a typical leftist nutjob that cannot see reality. Obozo has added nearly $6 TRILLION to the National Debt. Plain and simple. He has done in it! All that blown money and NOT A SINGLE BUDGET HAS BEEN PASSED OR SIGNED IN HIS 4 YEARS. This was deliberate so that he could purposely fool all of you useful idiots into believing his lies for this upcoming election. Dont get me wrong, Bush was not a fiscal conservative and he ran up the debt by $4+ TRILLION in 8 years. But Obozo now owns his $6 TRILLION. By the way, his own forcasts say the debt will be $20 -$22 TRILLION in another 4 years.

            One last point… let me teach you and all the other leftist freaks on this site a little biddy of information…. DEFICITS are the annual difference between what the government takes in and what they spend. Obozo has had a $1.5 TRILLION dollar deficit each year. The DEBT is the running total year over year of all the DEFICITS added up. Do you get it? Quiz one week from today!

            2 Questions…. The top 1% of taxpayers pay 39% of all taxes. What exactly is their “fair share”? The bottom 47% pay ZERO federal income taxes. What exactly is their “fair share”?

            Also…. How is allowing people to keep more of their private earnings bad?

            Awaiting your response I remain…

            Have a nice day!

          • Ask youself how the deficit got so backwards in only a few years. How did American go from a state of ‘burgeoning federal surpluses’ (Greenspan’s words) to ‘extraordinay financial crisis (Greenspans’s words again) in just one decade’ Tax cuts!

            Also from Greenspan to the Senate Budget Committee back on Jan 25, 2001. ‘If current policies remain in place, the total unified surplus will reach $800 billion in fiscall years 2011. The emerging key fiscal policy need is to address the implications of maintaining purpluses.’ Well we all know how that worked out don’t we?

            Toss in a couple of wars on the credit card and a deep recession and you have deficits as far as you can see. Most honest economist have made it clear that it does not matter who the president is next year, the damage runs deep and what little progress there is will be slow in coming. Obama did not cause the mess and trying to work with the do-nothings in Congress has not worked out very well. The President is not in charge of spending or the appropriation of revenue. You have your distain off target my friend.

          • rozlee

            Obama has added 6 trillion to the national debt? Not so fast. The causes of the national debt all stem from actions started in the Bush Administration. 140% increase since 2003 for the wars of which 772 billion were projected by 2010 (Obama’s first budget didn’t go into effect until 2010; Bush wrote his last budget in 2008, which went into effect in 2009 and Obama wrote his first in 2009, which didn’t go into effect until 2010). There was reduced revenue in the form of massive tax cuts to the tune of 1.3 trillion, mostly to the mega rich. There was a Great Recession that started in the winter of ’07, also on Bush’s watch.

            Secondly, economists all agree that the biggest drag on the economy right now is the recession. Spending is crucial during a recession and the government must spend in order to try and recover from it. Economists from both the left and right have always agreed on that. Spending is more than 75% of the economy. If people are unemployed, social programs are needed to put money in their hands. In every recession or economic downturn, there have been stimuluses and increases in food stamps and unemployment benefits. There were also stimuluses under Eisenhower, Reagan, Bush (hah!) to name a few. Bush increased food stamps by 19 billion to include 11 million more families. Bush was the food stamp president! And the debt has been rising. We’ve owed money on the interest of loans that previous administrations took out on Japan and the IOUs they have on security treasuries that have drained the Social Security Trust of 2.6 trillion dollars as well as the loans to China that started on Bush’s watch as well. This accounts for a great deal of the national debt we’ve been accumulating. As for not a single budget getting passed, what do you expect when Republicans hold it hostage to such things as extending the Bush tax cuts to bazillionaires and trying to pass the Ryan Budget which would eviserate Medicare. Republicans have added so many provisions that would benefit the rich and hurt seniors and veterans that such budgets aren’t negotiable. Then, they blame Obama. And, oh, BTW, by strong-arming Obama to keep the Bush tax cuts from lapsing, they’ve added another $500 billion to the deficit.

            As for the wealthy paying so many taxes…if they only would. Romney pays only 14% of many of his taxes and writes off tithing to his church which is actually a violation of church and state. Federal taxes are only 20% of all government revenue on all levels and conservatives have been waving around this figure from reports from 2009 and up, when the recession started and the Congressional Budget Office says most of them are recession induced from joblessness. Your figures also ignore that many of the 49% that you quote also pay payroll taxes for Social Security and Medicare. Plus, many of these people are mostly seniors on Medicare, disaabled people or students who will pay taxes some day or people making minimum wages. One in five jobs in the U.S. does pay minimum wages, you know. Or didn’t. A family of four making 25,000 a year is qualified for food stamps. And the average salary in the U.S. is $26,000 dollars a year. The same it’s been since 1977. Not so for the richest Americans. If they’re paying more, it’s because they should. While wages have remained stagnant for the last three decades for the middle class, the wealthy have seen their wealth increase astronomically. The one thousandth richest have seen it go up by 400%. The richest 20% households now own 50% of the country’s wealth. In 1950, they owned less than 20%. The middle class held the real wealth back then. Now, the middle class is shrinking. So, the wealthy should be paying more. After they pay more, they’re still obscenely rich. If they even pay. 60% of corporations paid no federal taxes between 1996 to 2000. In 1984, the wealthiest CEO made 34 times as much as his non-supervisory worker did. In 1990, he made 296 times as much as that worker. In 2000, he made 458 times.

            The ‘job creators’ aren’t creating jobs. Corporations and banks are sitting on the biggest profits they’ve sat on in 50 years. They’re speculating them on the market as wildly as they did in 2008 and not lending those profits out as capital or credit for small business, employment, employment expansion or anything that would get the economy moving. They’re running the markets and investing in developing economies overseas. Witness JP Morgan and their latest fiasco. Republicans howled that regulating the banks would hurt free enterprise. Well, without the cop on the beat, the robbers are having a field day with our 401k’s again.

            The marginal tax rate on the wealthy back in America’s golden days when the middle class thrived between the 1950s and 1970s, was between 70% to 91%. Now, it’s between 14% to 30%. Since they’ve siphoned America’s wealth to themselves and left the middle class foundering and shrinking, it’s only fair to reverse 30 years of supply side, voo-doo economics and end the massive tax cuts to the super rich.

            Have a nice day!

          • ObozoMustGo

            roz… more of the Blame Bush Bandwagon, huh? Well, if you elected Obozo to fix it, why hasn’t he fixed it? The answer is, he can’t! He doesn’t have a clue what the hell he’s doing in a free market, capitalist system. This is foreign to him. So all he can do is keep spewing the same old debunked Keynesian theory of stimulating demand through deficit spending. It doesn’t work. It never has, and never will.

            The fact that you dont like the truth, doesn’t make it less true. Obozo has added $6TRILLION ON HIS WATCH! Sorry. It’s true. You can have your own opinion, but not your own facts. Since Obozo showed up, the National Debt has skyrocketed $6TRILLION dollars. There is no way around the plain simple truth. Sorry!

            I love how you leftist idiots always claim “all economists agree”. Bwaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahaha……. What a joke. No they dont. Only all economists named Paul Krugman agree…. and even then, I’ve seen him contradict himself in 2 different articles one day after the previous. And what your saying about government spending is so patently stupid, it’s mind boggling that anyone is dumb enough to believe that you can spend your way to prosperity. It’s just not possible, roz. Go run up all your credit cards to the max (if they are not already), take out more and keep running them up to the max. Keep doing it. Let’s see how long it takes you to become rich. Let me know how that works out.

            More of this class warfare blah blah blah blah blah crap. The whole narrative that you leftist nutjobs keep preaching about the “wealth gap” is so stupid, only the most hardcore weak minded moron actually believes it. There is no such thing as a “wealth gap”. It is a myth. You can only believe such nonsense if you believe that the ecomic pie is fixed, and that anyone that has a bigger piece must have that bigger piece by making someone else’s piece smaller. That’s fantasy thinking and only a fool believes it. In America, everyone is free to make of their lives what they wish, to achieve as much or as little as they want, but there is NO guarantee of success. Only opportunity.

            You leftist nutjobs want equality of results, not equality of opportunity. I know, I know. You’re gonna reply that what I say is not true. BULLSHEET!! Yes it is. Because when the results do not prove out to be what you want them to be, you crackpots on the left keep creating more rules and more laws and more lawsuits that keep tinkering with society to achieve your desired goals of equality of result. This is why you see victims every where. This is why the Holy Trinity of the Left is: Race, Gender, Class. Everything breaks down into one or more of those 3 categories and is the basis for all of your whining about inequality.

            By the way, the number of people on Food Stamps under Obozo has nearly doubled to 47 Million people. That’s 1 in 7 Americans getting their food paid for off the labor of their neighbor. And the number is going up rapidly. How disgusting and sad that is. And Obozo likes is. For if you are dependent upon Obozo for your food and medicine, you are certainly going to keep voting for him and his ilk in the Socialist… err…. DemocRATic party. They are working at hooking all of you on government heroine because they dont actually give a damn about you. They only want to grow their power.

            One more point…. if you think anyone actually paid 70% to 91% of their income in taxes, you’re a bigge fool than I thought. NO ONE! NO ONE paid that much. Why they hell would anyone work if they were paying 90% of their effort to anyone else? They wouldn’t, of course. Don’t be so stupid, roz.

            You have over dosed on the Obozo and socialist Kool Aide, roz. Take break, open your mind, and start drinking water. Please!

            Have a nice day!

          • rozlee

            *sigh* Please, open your mind, O. Yes, were’re stuck on Bush. Because this Great Recession will take longer to take care of than even the Great Depression. The Great Depression was mainly the crash of the Stock Market. This one is more disastrous due to the collapse of the real estate market and the deficit, which were both under Bush’s watch, not to mention a war he didn’t pay for by increasing taxes, something every other president in history has done since the Revolutionary War. Can’t buy tanks, F-14s, M4s and military pay without raising revenue, right? Unless you put it on the national tab. As for this free market that you’re talking about…what free market? As I’ve said before, U.S. corporations are sitting on the biggest profits they’ve ever had in 50 years and not investing them in capital for loans and credit for building, job creation, small business loans, anything. They’re speculating in the market and in foreign developing economies. Decades ago, investors used to spend 73% of all their capital on jobs. Now, they spend 11%. You keep saying that Obama spent 6 trillion on the debt on his watch. No, the debt grew 6 trillion from the interest accrued on the debt itself. Your allegory of the credit card is correct. The previous administration ran up a huge credit card bill. I’m sure you know what happens when you’re extremely behind and not paying off your credit card bills. The interest keeps going higher and higher and doubling and tripling. The interest to the Chinese for the money they give us is huge as is the money we owe to our owe treasury securities. And, yes, the number of food stamps under Obama has grown. We do have a recession, you know. Even Bush II was forced to increase food stamps as the recession dragged in his last months in office when 4 million people lost their employment in 2 months. I’ll just sit here and zone out about your wealth gap rant, because census findings from the last 40 years show this disparity as clear as day. As for your contention that no one paid 70% to 91% taxes. Google it. The marginal tax rates for the wealthiest Americans from the late 40s to the 70s. Eisenhower raised taxes to 91% to expand spending to create such socialist programs as the interstate highway system, the VA Hospital System, VA education grants and the FHA. The tax rate was at 70% when Reagan got in and he dropped it to 28%. Over time, he raised it again when the deficit from lost revenue from the tax breaks and military spending was getting unsustainable. Google “U.S. marginal tax rates over time.” Or “Historic American tax rates.” This will verify the information.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Roz… I dont care what the top marginal tax rate is. NO ONE PAYS IT… not then and not now. Even Obozo’s effective tax rate on his tax returns of 2011 shows that even the hypocrite in chief paid a 19% effective tax rate!!!! THAT’S RIGHT… THE HYPOCRITE IN CHIEF BARELY PAID A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF HIS INCOME THAN MITT ROMNEY!!!!!!!!!!


            By the way, Mitt paid an effective rate of 14.5% on CAPITAL GAINS, not income. Obozo had income and still ONLY PAID 19%.

            By the way again, Mitt paid 14.5% of his income in taxes, and GAVE AWAY TO CHARITY 16% OF HIS TOTAL INCOME!!!!!!!!!!

            Back to the point… NO ONE pays the highest marginal rates. They didn’t back then, and they don’t now. No one would go to work if they had to pay 90% of their earnings. You leftist nutjobs just dont get this fact, do you?

            Last point… The fact that you dont like the truth, doesn’t make it less true. Obozo has added $6TRILLION ON HIS WATCH! Sorry. It’s true. You can have your own opinion, but not your own facts. Since Obozo showed up, the National Debt has skyrocketed $6TRILLION dollars. There is no way around the plain simple truth. Sorry!

            There is NO WAY you can run around that.

            Have a nice day!

          • rozlee

            I guess you haven’t been paying attention to my explanation of how the debt is climbing due to interest on the deficit and is doubling and tripling as the interst keeps compiling. And yes, Obama took the same advantage on the tax system as Romney. The difference is that Obama wants to change the system and is willing to take a hit to his own wallet to do it. And Romney gave 12% to tithes to his church, not charity. As for your disbelief that the wealthy never paid between 70% to 90% of their federal income in taxes, you evidently didn’t research as I asked you to. The IRS didn’t have the loopholes it does now back in those days. People paid what the government said they had to pay or they broke the law. Go and google “What were marginal tax rates for wealthy in 1956?” “What were marginal tax rates for wealthy in 1960?” “What were marginal tax rates for wealthy in 1968?” “What were marginal tax rates for wealthy in 1974?” Just google for any year between 1956 and 1979. This is what I find so amazing about your post. Check on the lifestyles of the rich and famous back in those days. They owned a sumptious mansion and a beachhouse. They didn’t own eleven mansions like McCain and tear down a mansion to build an even bigger one like Romney. Yes, Virginia. At one time, millionaires in America paid up to 90% of their earnings in taxes and didn’t have the loopholes to avoid it. Research it.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Roz.. you’re not understanding what I wrote. Right now, Obozo’s top MARGINAL rate is 35%, but he only pays an EFFECTIVE tax rate of 19%. My point is that it doesnt matter so much what the MARGINAL tax rate is now, and it did not matter then. It’s an illusion that leftist nutjobs fantasize about, but the factual math proves otherwise as evidenced by the very tax rate that your messiah, Obozo, pays himself.

            Further, it’s an illusion to think that taking 90% of someone’s income is actually good for the economy. The only reason you leftist nutjobs want higher tax rates is because you think that government spends my money better than I do, and that somehow because I earn a lot of money, I should be punished.

            What is the difference between slavery and being forced to work where 90% of my earnings are confiscated? The answer is………………….. only 10%. In other words, there really is NO difference. I suppose you support slavery?!?!?!?

            The most fair solution is that everyone pays the same rate. 10%, no deductions, no loopholes. How much did you make? Multiply by 10% and send it in. Done! That’s fair. Everyone treated the same. No exceptions.

            By the way, what business is it of your’s or anyone else’s how many or what kind of house someone owns? Or how it was built? Are you equally pissed off at Obozo for doing an illegal deal with criminal Tony Rezco to buy a house at 50% of market value paid for by who the hell knows who’s money. Where did a state senator that NEVER had a real job in his life come up with funds to buy a multi-million dollar mansion? Hmmmmmmmm???? Where did a lifelong politician like Charlie Scumbag Rangle come up with money for island villas and mansions in NY City? Hmmmmmm To be fair, the same goes for John McCain. Hmmmmm…. Seems to me you’re pissed off at the wrong people. Romney built an honest private business, whether or not you like private equity or not, it is perfectly legitimate and legal, and honest work. Unlike lifelong politicians that somehow get wealthy while “serving” the public.

            Have a nice day!

          • ObozoMustGo

            On other point, Roz… just an FYI… Obozo and Buffett and anyone else including you are free to pay as much in taxes as you want. Nothing is stopping Obozo or Buffett from paying more. It’s true. Look it up. Nothing. They should put their own money where their hypocritic pie holes are! Either that, or STFU!!!!!!!

            Have a nice day!

          • rozlee

            Buffet and Obama are pressing for higher taxes for the wealthy, even though they say it’ll take a hit in their pocketbooks. Buffet suggested the Buffet Rule, which is a bill in congress now that would be a progressive tax on the wealthy, making taxes higher the more someone makes. A progressive tax after all, is nothing new. Founding fathers Adam Smith, Thomas Jefferson and Thomas Paine beleived in progressive taxes and an estate tax. Google “Progressive taxes and Thomas Jefferson.” “Progressive tax and Adam Smith.” “Progressive Tax and Thomas Paine.” Even though these men had relative wealth, they still believed in the rich paying their fair share.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Roz… like I said, Buffett and Obozo and you, and anyone else, are free to pay as much as you want in taxes. There is nothing stopping them from living up to their own word, except hypocrisy. That is it.

            Adam Smith was NOT a founder. Not sure who you mean. Maybe John Adams?

            Your assertion about Jefferson is a common leftist trick, taking one thing the guy wrote in a letter to James Madison in 1875 while in France. What he was writing about was the inequality that existed IN FRANCE under The King. These were his ruminations while on a walk and encountering a women who was poor under their system. In reality, everything Jefferson did and said as a founder and then as President was in exact opposition to such ruminations. The same goes for Thomas Pain. Go read “Common Sense” please.

            Have a nice day!

          • rozlee

            Adam Smith was quoted frequently by Benjamin Franklin especially and his tax quote was used by Thomas Jefferson. As for Thomas Jefferson being in France, he still advocated a progressive view on taxation. And I’m surprise you, yourself, are advocating any readings by Thomas Paine. I thought right-wingers had disavowed him over his debunking of the bible in “The Age of Reason.” I noticed Glenn Beck abruptly distanced himself from Paine and never mentioned him again after his book, “Glenn Beck’s Common Sense,” when a caller to his radio show brought up the subject of Paine’s Judeo-Christian bashing book.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Roz… there were a number of writers and philosophers who influenced the founders and our Constitution. Adam Smith was one. de Montesquieu, John Locke, Socrates, The Bible…. all were HUGE influences. But that’s beside the point.

            You claimed that Jefferson supported a “progressive income tax” when in fact he did not. Other than the letter he wrote to Madison in October of 1785, he never espoused it in fact or in principle following that.

            How can you can say that one of the primary authors of the Constitution, along with Madison, supported a progressive income tax when America did not even have an income tax until 1913? It’s simply not plausible, nor believable. For if the authors of the Constitution actually wanted an income tax of ANY form, they would have written it into the document. They did not. Period. End of story.

            And Thomas Paine was known to have gone crazy in his latter years. But his book “Common Sense” was his written defense of why the states needed to ratify the Constitution. As to what Beck says or does not say about Paine, I don’t care. He’s entitled to his own opinion just like you or I.

            Roz… I am surprised you listen to Glenn Beck’s radio show! WOW! I’m impressed.

            Have a nice day!

          • rozlee

            Jefferson was an extreme progressive for his time. He espouse many ideas such as free education and the belief that all men should be given public lands to equalize the gap between rich and poor. He got rid of the laws of primogeniture. Like many founding fathers, he didn’t want to establish an aristocacy in America. Like Paine, he was a Deist who questioned the divinty of Jesus and wrote the “Jeffersonian Bible, the Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth,” in which he said Jesus was a great philosopher, but not the son of God and stated there were no miracles; no virgin birth, no resurrection. In his book, he called the twelve Apostles a “gang of dupes and imposters,” and St. Paul “the first corrupter of the Gospels.”

            There was no federal income tax in the colonies, but taxes are necessary to run a country. The colonies instituted draconian excise taxes, taxes on customs and duties, tariffs, “head” taxes or poll taxes on each adult male, taxes based on occupation, import and export taxes on Southern colonies, i.e. for the slave trade. And the most notorious tax rebellion in American History. No, not the Boston Tea Party. That was for taxation without representation. This was the first genuine tea party event, the Whiskey Rebellion which was levied on whiskey makers and that Washinton, himself, rode into and killed the leaders of the revolt.

            And, yes, I do often listen to snippets of Glenn Beck online. His conspiracy theories are always so entertaining and remind me of the hilarious, nutball speculations of Art Bell.

        • Why do I suspect yo never have a nice day what with the hatred eating yuo it must be miserable besides sucking to be you.

  • ObozoMustGo

    Fernie… you’re crack pipe is calling you. Can you hear it? It’s growing lonely for another toke!

    Have a nice day!

    • I reiterate I’d bet you never have a nice day. Tell us all what you personally know about crack and crack pipes. That degree of hatred must just eat you up.

      Have your usual miserable day.

  • desertdustoff

    The gop (greed over people, no capitals on purpose) is nothing but repugnican, American taliban, tea bagging, bigoted white guys who are obstructionists, religious zealots, anti every thing: especially women, the middle class, the environment, and science. They want to turn this country of the USA into the United Serfs of America. They will stop at nothing, and people like the koch sisters, cheney, rove, kincaid, and the likes of trump (all rich because they are tax dodgers)think they can buy their way to achieving 3rd world country status for the USA through hand puppets like nit wit mitt money and a whole bunch of repugnican governors. A vote for any repugnican: local, state, regional, national is a vote for 3rd world status. Ignorance is not bliss…it is a gop voter.

  • The long form birth certificate is fraud on its face. No matter how much virtual ink you may use to argue the contrary.

    • Arvid123

      Since his mother was an American citizen, doesn’t that make him a citizen?

      • texasaggie

        Don’t argue with these people. If you try to reason with a pig to do something it doesn’t want to do, it won’t change its mind and will just get angry and start squealing, and you’ll get dirt all over you. Same thing with reasoning with these people. The only way to make them actually do something they don’t want to do is with brute force and ignorance, and in this case, it isn’t worth it.

        • Arvid123

          You may be right. Where I live, I have often thought that there are two ways of bringing a new idea to folks. One, you can ram it down their throats and have them pissed off for 50 plus years, or, you can present the idea and have it float around for 50 plus years so they have enough time to view it as no longer being a kind of threat to what they are accustomed to.

      • That does not matter. Of course he is an American by birth. Mother was an American and he was born in the great state of Hawaii. End of story and it is time for some to send their hoods to the cleaners.

    • rozlee

      Yeah, right. Like the FBI, CIA, and the NSA were all fooled by a copy made from Kinko’s and like super spies could have missed any of this stuff. So far, birthers have said 1) Obama renounced his citizenschip, or 2) his mother renounced her citizenship before Obama was born, or 3) his mother was in Kenya two years before he was born, flying in surreptitiously right after to make it appear he was born in the U.S. 4) he was really the son of a Kenyan woman named somebody-or-other whom Obama’s mother adopted after pretending to be pregnant and smuggled over to the U.S. And now this stupid nimrod story. The conspiracy theories never end. Because for these people it’s not simply a belief; it’s a cult. Kenyan is just another word for ni**er.

  • segueman

    Holdn up Cliff Kincaid as spokesperson for the illegitimacy of Obama’s birth certificate and thereby ridicule those who have taken 15 minutes to Google “obama’s birth certificate.” I, too, thought it was Tea Party drivel until I looked for myself. What the White House has up online is a joke, a truly poor imitation of the real deal. But most people would prefer to ease back and believe that it’s nothing more than a conspiracy theory and go on living in the trance as Joe Conason would encourage us to do.

    • There coming to take me away, there coming to take me away oh hoo

  • rustacus21

    *sigh*… Indeed, here we go again. It wasn’t enuff the number the 2001-2009 conservative administration ‘dropped’ (as in “number 2”) on America – but particularly, the suckers who vote Republican, but here they come again. The sad thing is, this racist stuff really DOES WORK!!! The more ignorant amongst them decry ‘communal living’, yet don’t understand the ‘community’ of the U.S.A. has been crapped on by conservatives & they don’t get it!!! They don’t even bother to realize that not even communist want communism!!! What the H#%L does a millionaire, capitalist Black man in the White House want from a potentially ‘communist’ America where he or his family, or even other Liberal/Progressives can have the chance to get rich too?! Too stupid to realize, they didn’t do anything to President Obama in the ’10 Mid-Terms, but rather, they screwed themselves, by voting for T-(for civic “terrorists’) partiers who, after getting in office were worse than the legislators they replaced & on top of that, killed the recovery that would have put them back to work FASTER!!! Protecting the rich & their tax cuts has gotten them nothing but insane w/hate – that they’re so dumb to fall for these pavlovian tactics over & over & over & still, will do it again this year. This latest ‘incarnation’ of the same old tired story makes them (conservative voters) look not just stupid, but even more desperate! Bringing to mind that there should be a literacy test @the polls – that way, we can be sure conservatives voters will be barred from EVER messing up a perfectly flawless Democracy EVER again, as they wander the ‘COMMUNITY’ of America w/empty pocket to match empty heads…

  • rustacus21

    We’re falling into the same ‘pavlovian’ mind trap when we blame them ‘both’ for the problems that 1 single political party has created. If the Dem’s want to be competitive, what must they do? If money is the game, what do they do, play footsie? We know what the problems are. We have to stop pretending like it’s NOT conservatives & lock them out of the process. As I stated B4, what good, since 1981, have conservatives done for the nation? For the Middle Class & working poor? In the meantime, what Democrat was able to dispatch & rid the nation of the Republican wreckage & back on the path to comprehensive prosperity for ALL Americans who WANTED some?! I rest my case…

  • rustacus21

    … but that’s the problem in a, xcuse my sarcasm – NUTSHELL!!! They don’t read. Conservatives have a hard time w/reasoning. Being rational, logical, they don’t have the mental ability for such. They do, however, await for some 1 to tell them what to do, how to think, what to think! What good is a book – ANY book, if it’s beyond their capacity to comprehend? They don’t understand what happened from 2001-2009! If they have trouble sorting thru reality, who can help them, according to this article?

  • rustacus21

    … & we see where that got them in 2001-2009, to ensure there would be NO MORE of that diversity, equality of opportunity, competition between the best & brightest crap going on after Clinton saved America as only a Liberal/Progressive can!!!

  • rustacus21

    To Mr. Obozo: Great take my friend!!! Where U been tho? Oh & don’t 4get the confederacy that surrounded Reagan & sold weapons to our enemies, double-crossed them & then multiplied their numbers, while looting Wall St. & the S&L’s & the retirement funds of the elderly. Real patriots those conservatives, rite? 1 error tho; the country was in hell already when President Obama took over – it’s the conservatives that won’t let hell go, if U happened to miss reading the article above… Take care my friend & we’re holding a spot 4 U @the Liberal/Progressive winners circle this fall!!!

  • rustacus21

    To Ms. SaneJane: Alabama isn’t too far removed from the rest of the ‘community’ of America & here in W. Michigan, home to the largest KKK population outside of the south, there are many ready & will to swear the above subject is gospel & will repeat it often. Ever go on some of those right-wing blog sites? I do & it’s no fun, but I try b/c the human being is an odd creature. We have a capacity for reasoning, but rarely use it – xcept in times of emergency & crisis! – some of us anyway – 2008 was a crisis period we should continue to remind ourselves, so reason & logic happened & we can only hope it can overcome this crap as well…

  • rustacus21

    To Mr. KevinSchmidt: we know the problem is the money. Dems have to play the game to keep in it. When they do, what’s the results? So what, as voters, do we plan to do, since no Independent has proven to yet be competitive? Just curious…

  • Public citizen don’t belive everything you read. This is all garbage to help Mitt Romeny in Office for the Pesident. Donald Trump is paying for all these negative ads. Donald Trump donated a billion dollars to Mitt Romeny campaign. He’s a racist and a loser.

  • Neo Birthers are a racist Organzation to get Barack Obama out of Office. This President has done allot sense he been in Office. These racist groups will never appreciate what Barack has done behind hate.

  • tavias51

    You know for once in Our Lives my Fellow Americans, this election cycle will go down in the history of the American Peoples, that we will be fed up with the Tea Party and Republican bs!!! We are mad as hell, and we’re not going to take it anymore!!! We will drive these Republican morons back into the political wilderness for times indefinite!!! And Mitt can take his millions and stuff them up his 1% ass!!! Down with ALL Republican cowards!!! Obama 2012………Long Live the Fighters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Revcarrie

    You forgot the most recent “discovery” of billions of our tax dollars that was have been wasted in the Iraq reconstruction. The loses are so massive they will never fully be able to account for them…..remember Cheney and his part in the government contracts in Iraq? We now owe China for all of those billions of dollars and Cheney is still, some how still out in the public trying to do more damage. Again, some people actually listen to him! Some people never learn.

  • Revcarrie

    Dominick, respect went out the window with George W. Bush. He is NOT his father and neither is Mittten his father. Mitt Romney has been an imposter all of his life. He was a goof off in school. Impersonated firemen, police officers and a mobster. He cut the hair of someone he didn’t like which turned out to a Gay student. He doesn’t want to talk about his “privledged” mission for the Mormon Church … any Mormons who know what that means. He has tried to live on his father’s shirt tail the same as “W” did his father. Notice how Jeb Bush has stayed in teh background of that family and refused the temptation of trying to clean up his brother’s messes by becoming “number three” of the Bushes in the White House. Romney is nothing was a very rich fake. I certainly hope money doesn’t end up very openly buying our lives.

  • Revcarrie

    Frightening isn’t it? I have cousins all over the country who are Repubicans. Thank Heavens none of them are actually registered to vote. They were spouting their “knowledge” when I challenged their sources. It occurred to me to ask them if they were registered. We had a rule in our house when I was growing up. the “right of passage ” into adulthood at 18 was a trip to the court house to register to vote. The rule continued with our children. Anyone who was not registered to vote could not have an opinion on political matters in our home. My father-in-law was caught in that senario and could no longer complain in our home about anything political. It worked great!

  • ObozoMustGo

    Who am I?

    I was born in one country, raised in another.

    My father was born in another country.

    I was not his only child.

    He fathered several children with numerous women.

    I became very close to my mother, as my father showed no interest in me.

    My mother died at an early age from cancer.

    Although my father deserted me and my mother raised me, I later wrote a book idolizing my father not my mother.

    Later in life, questions arose over my real name.

    My birth records were sketchy.

    No one was able to produce a legitimate, reliable birth certificate.

    I grew up practicing one faith but converted to Christianity, as it was widely accepted in my new country, but I practiced non-traditional beliefs and didn’t follow Christianity, except in the public eye under scrutiny.

    I worked and lived among lower-class people as a young adult, disguising myself as someone who really cared about them.

    That was before I decided it was time to get serious about my life and embarked on a new career.

    I wrote a book about my struggles growing up.

    It was clear to those who read my memoirs, that I had difficulties accepting that my father abandoned me as a child.

    I became active in local politics in my 30’s then, with help behind the scenes, I literally burst onto the scene as a candidate for national office in my 40’s.

    They said I had a golden tongue and could talk anyone into anything.

    I had a virtually non-existent resume, little work history, and no experience in leading a single organization.

    Yet I was a powerful speaker and citizens were drawn to me, as though I were a magnet and they were small roofing tacks.

    I drew incredibly large crowds during my public appearances.

    This bolstered my ego.

    At first, my political campaign focused on my country’s foreign policy…

    I was very critical of my country in the last war, and seized every opportunity to bash my country.

    But what launched my rise to national prominence were my views on the country’s economy.

    I pretended to have a really good plan on how we could do better, and every poor person would be fed and housed for free.

    I knew which group was responsible for getting us into this mess.

    It was the free market, banks and corporations.

    I decided to start making citizens hate them and, if they became envious of others who did well, the plan was clinched tight.

    I called mine “A People’s Campaign”.

    That sounded good to all people.

    I was the surprise candidate because I emerged from outside the traditional path of politics and was able to gain widespread popular support.

    I knew that, if I merely offered the people ‘hope’, together we could change our country and the world.

    So, I started to make my speeches sound like they were on behalf of the downtrodden, poor, ignorant to include “persecuted minorities.”

    My true views were not widely known and I kept them unknown, until after I became my nation’s leader.

    I had to carefully guard reality, as anybody could have easily found out what I really believed, if they had simply read my writings and examined those people I associated with. I’m glad they didn’t.

    Then I became the most powerful man in the world.

    And then the world learned the truth.

    Who am I?

    Answer: ADOLPH HITLER.
    If you knew the answer, congratulations. You know your history and pray it does not repeat itself. If you were thinking of SOMEONE ELSE, you should be scared … very scared !! Remarkable similarities, arent there?

    • no like most wingnuts you want the world to know YOUR version of history no matter it’s a total fabrication. When did Hawaii secede and become another country? If I didn’t know I could take care of simps like you in my sleep I might be very scared of nitwits like you. Fortunately, or not,depending on your POV I got some training while dealing with Sir Charles( you do know who Sir Charles is, don’t you?) that will forever relegate people like you to the realm of lightweight in just about any area you can think of providing you can think or do anything but mindlessly rebleat the latest wingnut blathering points.

    • rozlee

      O, I think you’ve twisted a few relevant facts. Obama isn’t a great powerful speaker. He needs a teleprompter to speak to his kids, remember? At least, that’s what Fox and the right wing echo chamber say. I wish you’d make up your minds. I doubt Hitler had a teleprompter. Obama’s birth records weren’t sketchy. Only to conspiracy theorists. The NSA, FBI and CIA vetted them carefully and decided a bunch of Cletuses yammering that they were Kinko copies didn’t pass the smell test. A golden tongue? Evidently not. Hitler cowed his oposition into following him. Republicans have killed Obama’s budgets and jobs plans in committee. Hitler hated big businesses and banks? No, he hated the opposite. He arrested unionist and those who tried to get fair wages for workers. Remember this quote? “First, they came for the Communists, but I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a Communist. Then, they came for the trade unionists, but I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a trade unionist…?”

      Obama had a very impressive resume as an outstanding student, despite clamoring from the right wing to see his grades. I guess graduating with a magna cum laude doesn’t penetrate their fuzzy heads. It means you graduated with at least a grade point average of 3.6. Obama wrote two books and several articles, peer reviewed journals and law magazine reviews that received wide acclaim. Your contention about Hitler’s religion? Hitler was raised Catholic and served time as an altar boy. He considered becoming a priest. He spent his life advocating his Christian faith, imprinting “Gott mitt uns” in Nazi uniforms. God is with us. He hated atheists, associating them with “bolsheviks” and rounding them up.

      Obama is nothing like Hitler. Hitler never married or had children. He was never highly educated. Unlike Obama, who admitted to youthful consumption of alcohol and drugs, Hitler was a strict teetotler and never used drugs until his last 18 months of life. He was a homeless vagabond at one time in his life, living in mens’ shelters. He wasn’t a communist, as Obama is accused of being. He persecuted communists and send many to the gas chambers. Your contention that Obama never joined any organizations is false. Obama joined many organizations and even presided and was a board member over some. Such as his bar associations; President, Harvard Law Review, board member, Joyce Foundation and I’m sure you know he was a community organizer. He worked with organizations such as The United Way; Catholic Charities; the Red Cross; nutrition centers for the elderly. The Police Dept.’s Blue Santa project for poor children’s Christmas. Another thing: Hitler was a member of the biggest majority group in his country, so he was able to whip them up into a ready army. Obama is a member of an unpopular minority group.

      So, a great many of your “facts” are twisted, down right erroneous and filled with personal bias. It’s the six degrees of Kevin Bacon.

  • The GOP has decided to let its nutbags run free, to see if they gain any traction with the base. If they do, the GOP will move in to capitalize. It’s like testing spaghetti by throwing it against the wall and seeing if it sticks.

  • tmorro

    One Conservative’s Beliefs
    1. The Constitution of the United States contains the law of the land and should be defended and honored(yes, above ‘progress’). There’s never been anything like it in history.
    2. Taking from one person at the point of a gun in order to give to another person is immoral. Government doesn’t do charity very well.
    3. The economy is not a zero-sum game. My success in no way impedes anybody else’s success.

    • ObozoMustGo

      tmorro… good post. I would add to that…

      4. If one believes government is good, that does NOT mean that more government is better!

      Unfortunately, the leftist nutjobs and useful idiots that swim in this sea of leftist insanity called The Memo will not understand a single thing that you wrote above. For, if they understood, by definition, they would not be leftist nutjobs. Now would they?

      Keep fighting the good fight.

      Have a nice day!