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Wednesday, October 26, 2016

Ever since House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) announced his intention to sue President Barack Obama for delaying the Affordable Care Act’s employer mandate, polls have shown that the American public strongly disagrees with the plan. According to one new survey, it could cause a big problem for Republicans in November.

The latest McClatchy-Marist poll finds that the lawsuit is still unpopular; 58 percent say that Congress should not sue the president, while just 34 percent say it should. In a major warning sign for the GOP, it appears that this disappoval could translate into votes. The lawsuit is actually motivating Democrats more than Republicans; an 88 percent majority of Democrats said the lawsuit makes them more likely to vote for a Democrat in the midterms, while just 78 percent of Republicans said the same about their party’s candidates.

Democrats’ increased motivation over the lawsuit is already apparent in the money race. Democratic fundraising has exploded since Boehner annouced his plan.

Republicans are counting on a large enthusiasm gap to help them make major gains in November. If the lawsuit motivates Democrats — particularly minorities and young voters, who tend to vote at much lower rates in midterm elections — to head to the polls, then it could scuttle GOP plans to take over the Senate.

More broadly, suing the president could cause a serious rift between the GOP and moderate voters. Self-described moderates oppose the lawsuit by an overwhelming 67 to 22 percent. And if Republicans do actually sue Obama, it would make 50 percent of moderates more likely to vote Democratic, and just 25 percent more likely to vote Republican.

The poll isn’t all bad news for Republicans, though. It found that the GOP has claimed a 43 to 38 percent advantage in the generic congressional ballot — its first lead of the year.

AFP Photo/Mandel Ngan

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  • Why wait until November’s elections? Are the GOP majority guilty or not, of gross negligence, for attaining office under false pretenses, then, spending the last 2 years doing nothing of the work they’re commanded to do, during the course of their terms in office? What have they done, by the way, over that time period?… … … I’m still thinking… … Oh yeah, they’re in the midst of pursuing scandals, related to already investigated incidents years old & since resolved… but being unsatisfied w/the realities surrounding the results concluded, are trying again, for a different resolution – on these many scandals – with the same facts & evidence. Nothing new having surfaced… U know what that’s called – viewing/doing something once, getting a result, then doing the SAME THING over again – NO CHANGES – but hoping for a different result… & voters REALLY want to wait til November? Really?…

    • What results? Please verify.

      • jmprint

        Bengazi for one.
        IRS scandal for two.
        Obama law suite for three.
        Birther’s for four.
        Women’s Rights’ for five.
        Not passing reform on Immigration.
        Not passing reform on wages.
        Not passing reform on equal pay.

        • VERIFICATION. Proof. What is that list for?

          • Independent1

            I’m starting to catch on – you’re even dumber than you post.

            Here’s an article from the Washington Post that covers a lot of the phony GOP scandals and issues that jmprint just listed:

            The Washington Post article is titled:

            Republicans embrace their phoniness

            The Republican Party has finally admitted what has been fairly obvious for much of the past six years: It produces fake news. This is not an earth-shattering revelation to anybody who has been paying attention, but, still, it’s an important step for the party to embrace the phoniness.

            “NRCC Launches Fake News Sites to Attack Democratic Candidates” was a headline in the National Journal on Tuesday.

            As Shane Goldmacher reported, “The National Republican Congressional Committee, which came under fire earlier this year for a deceptive series of fake Democratic candidate websites that it later changed after public outcry, has launched a new set of deceptive websites, this time designed to look like local news sources.”

            Here’s the link so you can improve you’re total ignorance on these issues:


  • idamag

    John Boehner is scared silly of the t-party. He always looks like he has been drinking or coming off a drunk. I wonder if he is the cowardly drunk.

  • 1standlastword

    I don’t have much confidence in polling data as it is my belief that they are always biased in the direction of people who are engaged in the political process–and that is probably much less than half of the adult American population; about the same percentage is those who vote at any time in the season.
    So far as the GOP being hurt by litigating Obama, I’m not so sure. Despite the intransigence and obstruction of the GOP, someone as noteworthy as Nate Silver has the Republicans taking the senate and holding the house…hard to argue with Nate given his record.
    The GOP appears to be invested in the practice and perfection of machine politics. This is why I think they don’t think they need voters. They’ve shown they don’t care about Hispanics, women, gays, nor the elderly; and they can’t care less about blacks so they have figured out a way to succeed without voters.
    The gerrymander, the activist SCOTUS, voter suppression, scads of money from everywhere and the 24/7 brainwashing conservative media has brought the GOP phenomenal success; so, litigating the POTUS is not likely to hurt them much at all.
    I doubt the average American know anything about the GOP threats to sue Obama

    • How many major news corporations are conservative? 1. How many are liberal? CNN, MSNBC, ABC,,,,,and many more. I doubt that you know anything beyond what you see on TV.

      • charleo1

        I think we fall into a trap, when we start looking at the media as either Conservative or Liberal. The idea that Fox News is the sole Conservative outlet, and therefore the antidote for a lying Liberal press, is a chimera. How many of the outlets you name as Liberal, trumpeted the Bush Administration’s assertions Saddam Hussein played a part in the 9/11 attacks, and possessed weapons of mass destruction? The answer is, they all did. All took the cherry picked information, some of it manufactured whole clothe, at face value. All equally, and falsely beat the drums of war. And aided, and abided the Bush Administration’s selling of a bogus war to the American people. I think the question we should be asking, to determine the quality of our information sources, is are they giving us adequate, and verifiable information, so we as citizens, can make better decisions as the final arbiter of what is the best course for the Country. Fox, like all the media operations, are corporate owned. And like all corporations, are slaves to ratings, and their Master in all things, the bottom line. The truth is Fox is television for Republicans, as MSNBC serves Democratic tastes. Do yourself a favor, and listen to Rachel Maddow, or Chris Haynes, and write down the first three things that sound like a Liberal lie, and check them out using sources not connected with the Right, or Left. Check the Congressional record, or other non partisan sources, that make their bones giving you the facts. There’s a lot of talk about the President breaking the law. So, check the law, both precedents, and opinions. Do this a couple of times a month. You’d want to know, right? And see who’s cheating you out of the truth.

        • highpckts

          Excellent but I doubt most people will take the time!! We are an arrogant and lazy country!! We would rather complain from our armchair then look something up!!

          • charleo1

            True. As the World gets more complicated, and the stakes ever higher. People seem to be getting less inclined to use their heads, and depend more on their emotions. What they believe becomes more, and more true, the more it becomes what they would like to hear. New era journalism reports Louie
            Gohmert’s assertions with the same equivalency, the same veracity, and is given the same weight, as the Statements of a doctor, a scientist, or the President of the U.S.

          • Which President? Not the illegal alien occupying the half-White House, surely. He has no veracity. If you like your insurance you can keep it,,,,if you like your doctor you can keep him,,,ACA will save money,,,your premiums will go down,,,,etc.

          • charleo1

            Like I was just saying dip shit. What they believe becomes more true, the more they want to hear it.

          • Independent1

            The more you post, the more you substantiate what this study from LiveScience concludes:

            Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice

            Your low IQ is clearly coming through via your clear racial bias – you are a pure RACIST!! Go away and post where there are more low IQ racists such as yourself:

            See this:

            There’s no gentle way to put it: People who give in to racism and prejudice may simply be dumb, according to a new study that is bound to stir public controversy.

            The research finds that children with low intelligence are more likely to hold prejudiced attitudes as adults. These findings point to a vicious cycle, according to lead researcher Gordon Hodson, a psychologist at Brock University in Ontario. Low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, the study found. Those ideologies, in turn, stress hierarchy and resistance to change, attitudes that can contribute to prejudice, Hodson wrote in an email to LiveScience.

            “Prejudice is extremely complex and multifaceted, making it critical that any factors contributing to bias are uncovered and understood,” he said


      • 1standlastword

        Ah! the point is whatever the number only people like us–the engaged, watch and we are not representative of the vast majority of low-to-no information voters

        I believe American politics are influenced only modestly by voters so with a small number of values voters the GOP can legitimize a party modus operandi that really only cares about business enterprise.

        Take for example health insurance. That industry has scalped us for decades and the GOP never flinched until PPACA (as flawed as it is it gives people a sense of health security)

      • Independent1

        Anyone who thinks America’s media is liberal is in fantasy land. Not only do conservatives own the majority of the key media outlets in America, but just for the sake of profits, the media focuses on negative news, and most liberal related news is positive. As an example, several supposedly liberal media outlets actually refused to publish positive news about Obamacare, preferring to print fake negative news from conservatives instead.

        But here’s the link to an article that was published in the Daily Kos a while back about 15 things ALL AMERICANS would know if the media were truly liberal.

        If you’re really clueless enough to think that American’s news outlets truly support liberals, spend a few minutes and find out how that is nothing but a conservatives fantasy:

        • 90% of the media in America is owned by 6 companies.
          GE, NewsCorp, Disney, Viacom, Time Warner, and CBS.
          1 company, NewsCorp is considered conservative by liberals.

          Daily Kos isn’t an objective source, it’s rabidly liberal.

          • Independent1

            What utter crap. Everyone of those companies you listed are major corporations and virtually EVERY MAJOR CORPORATION leans conservative toward the GOP – that’s just what CORPORATIONS do.

            But the business insider article is bogus anyway. Aside from Fox News, CNN & MSNBC, the major news players in America are owned by the VERY CONSERVATIVE company named Clear Channel – which Business Insider completely forgot:

            With 245 million monthly listeners in the U.S. Clear Channel Media and Entertainment has the largest reach of any radio and television outlet in America.

            And only a total dimwit such as yourself would even remotely try to suggest that NewsCorp is only considered conservative by liberals. Why don’t you take t hat last gasp on the NM and go pedal your blatant lies elsewhere. No one here is going to believe one word of the absolute garbage you’re posting.

      • jmprint

        And you are so smart because….Ted Cruz said you were. You are just a puppet.

        • Yeah, right. What does Ted Cruz have to do with it?

          • jmprint

            He pulls the strings and your puppet arms and legs go flopping armed and ready.

          • It’s idiots like you that give liberals a bad name.

          • jmprint

            Really, how is that? You are defending liberals now! No wonder your name is lastgrasp, sounds like your grasping for something out of nothing.

    • highpckts

      You are so right! I know my daughter told me she doesn’t care about politics! Does it take age or what to figure out and care what is happening to you? Of course she is above middle class so maybe not! I do know my Sister, who is retired, couldn’t even name the governor of her state!! So sad since our only recourse is an informed vote!!

  • Billie

    The GOP has never heard the old adage ” if you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.”

    • Suralin

      “We’ll *dig* our way out!”
      “No, no, dig *up*, stupid.”

    • 1standlastword

      that depends on what is beneath the dirt…oil anybody

  • FT66

    In whatever the circumstances, the lawsuit will be thrown out of the window. There is no any judge who will listen this case where The President and Congress were all elected by people to work for them, while one branch is playing their part and the other one is not. There is no case to answer here.

    • Dominick Vila

      I suspect Boehner is well aware of that fact. In my opinion, the lawsuit is designed to satisfy two objectives, distract the electorate from the economic prosperity that should be evident to everyone, and satisfy the Republican base by going after the “usurper”.

      • 1standlastword

        With all due respect, the economic prosperity you refer to is not a “felt reality” for and working and lower-middle and middle-middle class Americans. The struggle to raise the minimum wage evidences that. I will grant you that people who where doing well all along, they are perhaps breathing easier but that is not most

        • Dominick Vila

          The economic prosperity I mentioned referred to Wall Street no longer being on the verge of collapse, some of our industrial icons no longer being on the verge of bankruptcy, jobs being created instead of lost, the real estate market rebounding instead of being on a free fall, hiring signs replacing firing decisions, and optimism, reflected in much improved consumer confidence, replacing gloom and doom.
          Yes, some employers are still reluctant to hire more people than they absolutely have to, some prefer to hire part timers, some are offering substandard benefit packages, and there is a robust opposition to issues such as raising the minimum wage.
          The middle class and the poor are being held back by political opportunists who are convinced that economic uncertainty is the key to getting votes in November, and by greedy businessmen unwilling to share their bounty with their employees and fellow Americans. The former can be overcome with a massive Democratic turnout in November, the latter is much more difficult, and requires public involvement, such as boycotting companies that abuse their workforce or make customers wait at the checkout counter because they are too greedy to hire a few more cashiers to satisfy their customers. When the latter happens, shop elsewhere.

          • 1standlastword

            We have to remember that it was a “humanly engineered economic crisis” and then it makes more sense, at least to me, that the engineers would recover with such astounding alacrity that the rest of us would have trouble trusting the recovery is over. And yes they did transfer a huge amount of public wealth to infuse their accounts with gobs of tax payer money. But did they really, absolutely need it?

            I’m sick and tired of being sick and tired of being jacked around by the corporate gangsters on Wall Street and in Washington.

            They can change the economic weather whenever it suits their purposes. Whatever story they want to tell we have to accept as the gospel truth.

  • Dominick Vila

    Boehner’s lawsuit is a blessing in disguise for Democrats. In addition to showing their radicalism, Republicans are reminding the American people of the contrast between what has taken place since President Obama became President and what happened when they were in control of the White House and Congress. Few things highlight that contrast more than the number and content of the Executive Orders signed by President Obama and Bush. All I can say about Boehner’s lawsuit is, bring it on!

  • ericlipps

    The problem is that too many Republicans don’t give a rat’s hind end, or what comes out of it, what the American people think. 70 percent of the public opposed impeaching Bill Clinton, too, but that didn’t stop the GOP’s hotheads in the House. And the party paid for it, too, in the 1998 midterm elections. Ask Newt Gingrich and Robert Livingston what a great boon it was to their careers.

    My guess is that the lawsuit will go ahead, and that it’s just the warmup act for another try at impeachment, since right-wingers are still seeking revenge for Richard Nixon twenty years after his death. Republicans are the Bourbons of U.S. politics: they forget nothing, and they learn nothing.

  • Eleanore Whitaker

    The GOP has since Nixon been political “outlaws” who flout laws and when that doesn’t work, they reinterpret the Constitution to suit. Anyone can take any article in the Constitution and poke holes through it by the simple act of reading into words written by the Founding Fathers in the GOP double speak style.

    When it comes to results, how much good did that sequestration do? It only hurt their own. The rest of the progressive states just ignored it and advanced. It hurt red states like Alaska where the fishing industry lost over $200 billion thanks to delays in getting industry permits caused by government shut down.

    The GOP men today are spiteful, spoiled little bois who long ago needed to be taken out behind the barn and given “what for.” Today, they savage this administration in the same way they savaged the Clinton administration. Then, they have to gall to call Democratic presidents “ineffective?”

    Americans will not now nor ever live in the unending mass hardship imposed by the GOP clowns. Payback is coming in November 2014…we won’t need to wait for 2016.

    • 1standlastword

      you are correct to point out that the entire party is corrupt, self seeking and lacking of any impulse to serve the people

      I hope you are right about 2014 but my faith in people is at it’s nadir these days

      • You’re referring to the Commie/Progressive Democrats, righ?

    • Independent1

      As you know Eleanor, the GOP can call Democratic presidents “ineffective” all they want, but they can’t change the facts:

      It’s a Democratic president who “rescued” America from the failed policies of over 12 years of disastrous GOP governance that did in the 1920s almost exactly what Bush did in the beginning of the 2000s; allowed our economy to run amok with little or no oversight culminating in the 1929 stock market crash which the GOP promptly turned into a 10 plus year world-wide depression.

      It’s the Democratic president who led the nation out of that GOP debacle who also led the nation in it’s most successful war, WWII which ended up defeating not one, but two nations that were hellbent on inflicting their will against the world.

      It was also that Democratic president who insisted on and fought for the single most popular piece of legislation that was ever enacted in America, Social Security, which continues to be the most important life-line for millions of American citizens who are increasingly more abandoned by the GOP’s biggest supporters – CORPORATIONS!!

      And it’s been Democratic presidents over the past almost 90 years who have rescued millions of American’s retirement plans by leading the nation in such a way as to have the stock market enormously outperform the disastrous markets that the GOP has allowed to collapse. When over more than 40 years of failed GOP governance which has allowed Americans retirement portfolios to realize gains of less than .4%; which would have turned a $10,000 investment in the market right after the 1929 crash into an actual loss of thousands of dollars; it was market gains realized under Democratic presidents which averaged over 12% that reversed that disastrous result, turning that $10,000 investment into over $350,000.

      And it was Democratic presidents in office since Nixon, that has kept the already enormous American debt of more than $17 trillion from becoming catastrophic but all 3 of them, Carter, Clinton and Obama working diligently to reverse skyrocketing deficit spending that resulted in Reagan and the 2 Bushes from adding over 15 trillion of that debt despite each Democrat president’s efforts to reduce the outlandish Republican deficit spending. And to prove what I’m saying below are 2 graphs which just highlight how effectively Obama has reduced Bush 2s grossly out of hand deficit spending via his totally worthless governance during his 8 disastrous years in office.

      • Government stats for 2015? Yeah, they got it figured out ahead of time. Do you believe everything the government tells you? If so, I have some oceanfront property in Idaho to sell you.

  • Eleanore Whitaker

    Oddly, the November 2014 elections aren’t about political parties…It’s about cleaning house and getting rid of “dead wood.” All any American has to do is ask themselves how much better off they are for that sequestration, threats of government shutdown and the imposition of massive cuts to programs we’ve already paid half a century for.

    That is how Americans will vote…to save what remains of their ability to be employed in THIS country and to keep a roof over their families’ heads. That isn’t going to happen under House GOP majority rule and most sensible Americans know that.

    • highpckts

      I just hope there is a “majority” of sensible people left!!

  • howa4x

    Well when you haven’t done anything on any major issue, they you try to blame it all on the president for trying to do something. Like Obama said if you think I’m abusing my authority then pass some laws

  • sharkbait4711

    The people of Ohio should be ashamed that they elected bonehead Boehner. “WE THE PEOPLE” should sue him and the do-nothing jerks he’s leading. I’m so sick and tired of the out-of-touch politicians who we’ve elected to represent the people – that then get into office and bow to big corporations who continue to line their pockets with $$$. The entire governing body needs to be overhauled. The money the GOP and bonehead boehner has wasted is alarming and would have solved a lot of our financial problems if they’d just get their heads outta big corp and tea party asses!
    Listen up GOP & bonehead – this lawsuit is NOT the will of the people!

    • highpckts

      Believe me, if Boehner was in my district he would have gotten voted out! The people in his district think he walks on water!!

      • You probably voted for Piglosi.

        • highpckts

          Nope! Couldn’t do that! She’s not in my district! No voter fraud here! The ACA is a hoax?? Please explain with your limited intelligence!

    • How has the GOP wasted money? What is the will of the people? Obamacare? The Commie/Progressive Democrats OWN Obongocare. How’s that Hoax and Chains treating you anyway?

      • Independent1

        “How has the GOP wasted money?” Is that a trick question? or did you ask that out of your own stupidity??

        But bottom line try at least 26 Billion of totally wasted taxpayer dollars for running the most do-nothing Congresses in American history.

        Given that 12 GOP legislators (House and Senate) met with Newt Gringrich and one GOP-loving flake, on the night Obama was inaugurated to do nothing but the treasonous action of planning on how to sabotage the American economy so as to make Obama a one-term president (which they didn’t keep a secret), virtually everything taxpayers have paid to run Congress since 2010 has been a waste of money (aside from 2009 when the Dems had control of both houses for a fair part of the year).

        So if you add in the 24 Billion the GOP idiots cost our country with their failed attempt to defund Obamacare by shutting down the government, I think the total they’ve wasted is getting close to at least 25-26 Billion.

        It costs 1.45 million to run just the House for one session. Given that from 2010 through now in 2014 there have been about 480 wasted sessions where the House has created worthless legislation all of which contained poison pills the House knew the Senate would never pass; that’s about 700 million wasted just there. And you can add another 185 million or so for the wasted salaries of around 215 GOP legislators during 2010-2013. The last 2 sessions of Congress haven’t been nominated as being the most do-nothing Congresses in American history by numerous news outlets for nothing. The GOP has done it’s best to waste as much taxpayer money as they could with bogus legislation and constantly running bogus congressional committees looking to investigate scandals that never happened.

  • ExRadioGuy15

    Replace “could” with “will” and the title of the article is completely correct…

    • Independent1

      Sure hope you’re right and that it will help keep Republicans from making any gains in the upcoming election.

  • charles king

    The American People are not aware of Who? is steering the ship. Critical Thinking is in need for the People to find out What? political agenda are we carrying the flag for. Is it Capatialism, is it Democracy, is it Plutocracy, is it for the Republic for Which? we stand. What? the hell is going on in America and Where? is the supreme Court comng from on the subject of Where? is our Demcracy. I Am (86yrs old) and I never heard the word ” Plutocracy and what it meant”, but now I know and I am scare of What? it is all about. MONIES has shown its ugly face and our Representives are excepting the money and not doing their job. Thank You are the magic words in my book. I Love Ya All. Mr. C. E. KING

  • jmprint

    They haven’t been able to bring President Obama down, so they just want to make sure his record is tarnished, no matter the expense. If it’s on the books it’s history. I’m hoping for hear the loudest backfire of them all.

    • What a laugh! His record tarnished? His record is a series of inept decisions, unConstitutional actions, blatant lies, engineered fraud, thievery, extortion, treason, and the destruction of the Middle Class. History will remember him all right, he’s already considered the worst president since WWII.

      • jmprint

        You are delusional, or is it apposite day! No need for a response, I don’t speak your language.

  • Pamby50

    I am coming to all these discussions late. I was reading that the shooting & riots have mobilized people to get registered to vote. I am hoping that people who normally stay home for the mid-terms decide to make sure they are registered & go vote. People have gotten complacent about voting in non presidential years. If this is the case, the democrats might have a chance. The law suit should help us also.