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Tuesday, January 22, 2019

Poll: Mostly Republicans Care About Obama’s ‘Scandals,’ And That’s Bad News For The GOP

A new Gallup poll finds that Americans are paying less attention to the Benghazi and IRS “scandals” than they typically do to major news stories.

Republicans are more likely than Independents or Democrats to be following both stories.


They are also more inclined to believe both stories merit serious investigation.


Here’s why that’s bad news for the GOP:

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Not only is the deficit lower than it has been in five years, but so is the percentage of Americans who identify themselves as Republicans.

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79 responses to “Poll: Mostly Republicans Care About Obama’s ‘Scandals,’ And That’s Bad News For The GOP”

  1. So obama is taking harsh action by having the head of the IRS, who was not head of the IRS when this atmosphere started, forced to resign a few months earlier then he had already planned. While this would not have really effected the election, one of the key parts of impeachment of any government official is using their position of power to subvert another political party. So whom ever it was that initiated this atmosphere in the IRS should be found and dealt with. Then his response to the Phone records is not of one who, wants an visible government. Yes there are top secret documents that should not see the light of day for a while to protect the people involved in dangerous situations, but if the leaks are just going to reveal coverup then they should not be hunted down like they have been doing, but of course those in power will not willingly give up power if they can help it. So they will treat the leaks that would be their downfall more seriously then those that would cause harm to our troops and government agents around the world.

    • disqus_fsqeoY3FsG says:

      Schulman who was in charge at the time was a Bush Appointee and his term ended in December 2012. The 2nd in command was Miller – so where is the
      problem? Where are the “treason or high crimes and misdemeanors’ to impeach the President?

      People who are leaking information could put our troops in harms way, put our allies personnel in harms way, put our Embassy and Consulates Staff in harms way or endanger CIA or FBI operatives and put local friendlies in harms way, or give information to our enemies that allows them to kill Americans; they should be hunted and punished. Remember Republicans and Democrats voted against the Shield Law Bill in 2007 that would have prevented this from happening. What was done to the AP is Legal. So again – Where are the “treason or high crimes and misdemeanors’ to impeach the President?

  2. docb says:

    Poorly constructed and lacking in choice..When you can ONLY agree or strongly agree, it leaves the impression of a push poll! Gallup has lost its creds on this one!

    • tylerbrainerd says:

      The whole poll asks all a range of 5, strongly agree, agree, disagree strongly disagree, and no opinion. It’s this article that decides to only show the comparison chart that compares only the agreeing numbers across party affiliation.

      • docb says:

        Thanks, tyler. I did not go to the survey for obvious reasons of credibility…So it was a skewed article! I expect better from NM!

    • cats33 says:

      Sambo murdered 4 in Benghazi and he is behind the IRS targeting conservatives. He is your dictator. Heil Sambo!!!

      • stcroixcarp says:

        Your post does not contribute to intelligent discussion.

        • darkagesbegin says:

          it would be impossible for lana’s posts to contribute to intelligent discourse. But she does make even a man of modest intelligence like myself seem like an Einstein by comparison

      • First of all, I have no repect for anyone’s opinion that calls the President Sambo! Also, you have forgotten how to think for yourself after listening to all the trash on Faux news!!

      • howa4x says:

        you are a racist and probably a white supremacist. You are the one marching around the Swastika

      • ococoob says:

        Racist smelling pig!

      • § There were 12 attacks under each of the Bushes with more than 3,000 Americans killed.
        Here’s the list for Bush jr.:
        Bush Years there were 12 attacks with more than
        3,050 deaths including more than 3,000 Americans:
        2001 – World Trade Center, New York and Pentagon, DC; 3,000 Americans killed.
        2002 – US Consulate in Karachi Pakistan attacked, 12 killed; 51 injured.
        2003 – International Compound, Saudi Arabia, 17 killed .
        2003 – US Consulate, Karachi, Pakistan, 2 killed.
        2004 – US Embassy bombed in Uzbekistan, 2 killed 9 injured.
        2004 – US Consulate Saudi Arabia, 8 killed.
        2006 – US Consulate, Karachi, Pakistan, 4 killed including US diplomat.
        2006 – US Embassy, Syria, 1 killed and 13 wounded.
        2007 – Grenade launched into the US Embassy in Athens.
        2008 – US Embassy, Serbia, attacked by thousands, no one killed.
        2008 – US Consulate, Turkey, 3 killed.
        2008 – US Embassy in Yemen bombed, 13 killed.

        – Under George HW Bush, there were 12 Embassy or
        Consulate attacks with 60 being killed.

  3. mccormackterrie says:

    I believe most people are very concerned about the things going on in our White House. When is obama going to be impeached? We have got to clean out the communists, socialists, and Marxists and now the Muslim Brotherhood. Times are very dangerous right now.

    • Truthbot says:

      Considering all the wackjobs like you running around, yes times are very dangerous now. Republicans have the the country in a choke hold and you’re too stupid to acknowledge it.

      • cats33 says:

        I enjoy watching Sambo flapping in the wind. He knows his little game with the American people is about up

        • WhutHeSaid says:

          Your racist and hateful posts only impress Satan, who is surely sharpening his pitchfork at the thought of your imminent arrival in your fiery eternal home. Endless lies and hate are all you ever post, and it’s clear that you are consumed by your hate for a black President.

          Despite your endless hate for Obama, he will finish out his second term and remain more successful than you, more popular than you, more wealthy than you, and smarter than you. And he’ll do all that while remaining black. How does it feel to know that this black man is better than you in every possible way? Doesn’t fit in well with your racist beliefs, does it? Sorry ’bout your luck.

      • plc97477 says:

        Even to stupid to notice it.

    • tylerbrainerd says:

      Only about 12% of people think that Obama should be impeached. Not most people.

    • stcroixcarp says:

      George W and Dick Cheney cause some real damage to this country. They started a glory war in Iraq on lies about weapons of mass destruction and fabricated stories about Iraq buying yellow cake from Nigeria, outed a CIA agent. Over 4000 American troops lost their lives and over 40,000 sustained live altering wounds. That unbudgeted war cost nearly 1 trillion dollars which is now part of that national debt. Their policies caused the collapse of the economic system, which we are still digging our selves out of. Yet these criminals were not impeached. Nancy Pelosi took that option off the table. Grow up fellow! There are no communists, socialists, marxixts or muslim brotherhood in the government. Your last sentence sums up your paranoid fixations, “Times are very dangerous right now.”

    • darkagesbegin says:

      that is the thing about you republicans, if you can’t buy or steal the government, just take it outright.

    • elw says:

      I am sure you also believed the Romney was going to win the elections. President Obama is not going to be impeached.

    • Jim Myers says:

      You need to spend MORE time listening to Beck, Limbaugh, Coulter and the rest of the right wing WHACK JOBS.

      Clearly, you do not lean far enough to the right.

    • cats33 says:

      No one ended up murdered under Nixon

      • Phillip Collins says:

        um….yes they did. He tried to sabotage Vietnam peace talks. Anyway, this “cover up” has thoroughly debunked, to the point where republicans had to lie about what the emails said. It’s rather pathetic and thank God the public doesn’t care enough for this to matter. Not to mention the email from Heritage recommending republicans not to legislate and focus on the bs scandals. That’s sure putting the country first isn’t it? lol what a joke.

      • No one ended up “murdered” under Obama either! Now if you take into account the many times Bush totally iognored repeated threats to this country up to 911 then that I would call murder! Embassy attacks are common and happened frequently under Bush. Where is your outrage over all that????

        • Jim Myers says:

          You forgot to mention the TREASON committed during the rein of George the Second and his trusty sidekick, DICK.

          We will never know how many covert operatives lost their lives because of the outing of Valerie Plame, a covert operative with the CIA, as retaliation for the FACTUAL report made by Joe Wilson, about the lack of Yellowcake Uranium.

          Outing her clearly caused irreparable damage to the CIA and the field operatives who had connections to her.

  4. CrankyToo says:

    It staggers my imagination to think you conservatives are dumb enough to believe the nonsense that’s fed to you by the likes of Limbaugh, Beck, Palin, Huckabee, Hannity, all the other talking heads at Fox Noise, and a multitude of other right wing pundits, politicians and bloggers I could name. They spoon-feed you goose shit and tell you it’s tapioca. And you engorge yourselves on it and beg for more. Why? Because you’re full of biases and hatreds, and thus predisposed to lap up and regurgitate all that goose shit (tapioca, if you prefer). And they’re happy to feed it to you, because there’s money in it for them.

    More importantly, they stoke your fires by stoking your fears so as to get you to go to the polls and vote for their candidates. And just look at the people the Repugnican party is standing up these days – they are, in the main, a bunch of f##king looney tunes and scumbags!

    Notwithstanding all that, every time you pull the lever for a Repugnican, you’re voting against your own best interests. These people, and the avaricious dirtbags who own and manipulate them, are only interested in one thing: getting and consolidating power so they can turn this country into a corporate welfare state. They’re subverting our democracy with cold, hard cash; they’re plundering our treasure and fouling our nest; they’re dumbing us down and turning us into a second-rate country. One only has to read the posts on this site from wingnuts like “cats33”, “obozo” and “mike” to understand just how ignorant you people are.

    We’ll eventually transition from being second-rate to being Third World. Then the corporations will bring the jobs back to America – because there’ll be a buck in it for them. In other words, your grandkids are going to be working in American sweat shops for $40 a week, and Americans will be building rafts so they can sail to China. It’ll be Capitalism’s finest hour. 1% of us will be doing fabulously fucking well – and
    the rest of us? Tough shit.

    I’ve been a registered Republican since I was old enough to vote. I’m 61 now (unless you’re a Righty, you should be able to do the math in your head). And I may not be the smartest kid on the block, but I’m not stupid enough to vote for any Repugnican anywhere on my ballot – not until the party starts standing up statesmen (and women) – people committed to doing what’s right for We The People – not just for Sunday School conservatives and the Chamber of Commerce.

    So get your collective head out of your ass, Righties!

    Or don’t. It doesn’t matter to me, because the futher the GOP pushes you dumbasses to the right (and vice versa), the further it (you) will push sane people to the left. More and more, people who think like you are becoming people who think like me. And if the Republican party continues on its current trajectory, it’ll probably be (nationally) irrelevent by 2020. Maybe then we can translate the new Census into Congressional districts that more fairly reflect the desires of the voting public (which, of course, would be bad news for the Repugs).

    By the way, I’m not wild about some of the Democrat Party leadership (Harry Reid, for example – what a dumbass). I see a lot of cowardice and stupidity in the Democrats. But by and large, the Dems represent our best hope. And let’s face it, all the best legislation in the last 100 years has been enacted by the Democrats. Whatever their frailties, foibles and errant motivations may be, they care more about We the People.

    PS – Sorry about the rant. I’m feeling a little cranky today.

    • Go for it! I feel the same way!!

    • sabahdabby says:

      Well said!

    • mah101 says:

      Say it loud! It’s about time we all started getting cranky!

    • Cranky you are right in regards to national elections. But do to gerrymandering the dumb asses as you refer to them will continue to hold the congress for the foreseeable future. They are in safe district and unfortunately will stay there until the time that computers draw districts in a nonpartisan way.

      • CrankyToo says:

        Katherine, the reference in my rant to the 2020 Census is all about undoing the Gerrymandering done by the Repugs after the 2010 elections. What I’m saying is, if the GOP continues to self-destruct, it’s entirely possible that by 2020 the Democrats will control Congress. In that eventuality, the Dems will redraw congressional boundaries (after the 2020 Census) in such a way that the Repugs will no longer be able to thwart the will of the electorate. So let’s all hope and pray that the GOP and the knuckleheads who drive the party keep doing what they’re doing.

    • SeanCJulian says:

      you are the dumbass thats brainwashed by the Demoncrats. whats the matter, scared the GOP is gonna take your welfare check away. You are clearly a communist with no idea of what the constitution really means. you’re probably some nazi fem with PMS. its the demoncrats who’s been in control for the majority of the past 65 years killing our country slowly but surely. dont you have some poll to go take. Oh and FYI, the reason Demoncrats usualy lead in the polls is becasue Conservs dont waste their time taking and waiting for every little poll survey to come out. your stupid cranky BE___ATCH

      • CrankyToo says:

        Wrong again, Buttwipe. I’m a an over-60 white male, registered Republican, retired Air Force law enforcement and security expert with a house full of guns. I’m what GOP demographers refer to as “The Sweet Spot”. Except for one problem – I have a brain. Which is why I can’t vote for any of your Repugnican idols.

        PS – I paid for your right to be an asshole, from the last three years of the Vietnam conflict all the way up thru Gulf War One. So carry on.

        • SeanCJulian says:

          Well you had me fooled cuz you sounded like a nazi fem with PMS. You’re the one thats wrong again cuz I am Libertarian and trying to make a change to rid our country of both those sell out parties.
          p.s. I’m currently paying for the benefits your are or will soon be getting and I salute and thank you sir for your brave service to our country. I have the upmost respect in that regard.

          • CrankyToo says:

            I don’t know what “benefits” you’re talking about. I’ve been out of work since Dubya and his merry band of numbnuts blew up the world economy and sank my small business five years ago, but I’ve never applied for nor taken a penny in unemployment benefits.

            I do get a retirement check from Uncle Sugar every month, but that issues from a bargain he and I made in 1971: for 20 years, I would sleep in every shithole from the Black Sea to the Yellow Sea, and if necessary, take a bullet for him – after which time he would pay me a monthly stipend (which barely covers a small mortgage and the groceries). I don’t think of that as a “benefit” so much as payment for services honorably rendered. Of course, if you’ve never served in the armed forces of your country, then you have no idea what I’m on about.

            If, on the other hand, you’re referring to the Social Security “benefits” I become eligible to receive next year, well, they’re not really benefits either. They’re entitlements earned by making contributions into the program since I started bussing tables and bagging groceries at age 16.

            So I don’t know whose “benefits” you’re paying, but if you think you’re paying my way, you’re flattering yourself.

            PS – In my view, a Libertarian is just a Repugnican on hallucinogens.

          • girl says:

            LOL – you are a rethuglican’s worst nightmare! Their ideal target is an image of a single minority mother here “illegally” on welfare with 5 kids, who owns an IPad, IPhone 5, giant flatscreen tv, a decent car with “nice” rims and soundsystem, who buys steak, lobster, and beer with her EBT card, and gambles with her TANF money at casinos! (such a person does not exist of course).

          • CrankyToo says:

            Young lady, I believe you comprehend the gravity of the situation. These people are so delusional it boggles the mind.

            That said, I feel bad for going off on that dipstick SeanCJulian. I don’t ordinarily engage in battles of wit with people who are unarmed. Like I said, I’m feeling a little Cranky today.

          • Susan Dean says:

            We’re all tired of the baloney these trolls post. Thanks for giving him a well-writen reality check. Maybe you could take on Lana, too, the next time she shows up.

          • CrankyToo says:

            Oh, I don’t know Susan. That wouldn’t be a fair fight at all… Lana’s dumber than a bag of ball peans.

          • And, Cranky Sir, I’d like to shake your hand.

          • CrankyToo says:

            Likewise, G-Man. Maybe I’ll see you at the polls next year when we beat the snot out of the Repugnicans (again).

          • Mar Stef says:

            Cranky: I LOVE YOU! I’d like to give you a nice big ;hug!

          • CrankyToo says:

            I’ll call that bluff…

          • Independent1 says:

            You do realize Sean that it’s Republicans in Red States that are the biggest suckers of welfare help don’t you? All 10 of the states in America that get back more than $2 in federal money for every $1 they pay in taxes is a GOP run state. And not one GOP run state gets less money back than they send to Washington. While in contrast there are more than a dozen Blue States that get less money back than they send to Washington and are actually supporting the country!! Surprise!! On top of that 21 of the 23 states in America that have 15% or more of their residents living below the poverty level (and therefore needing federal assistance) are all GOP run states.
            And let me give you some statistics on what Rick Perry would like you to believe is a glorious Red State – one with lots of clueless people flocking to it because Rick has devoted so much tax payer money to helping businesses to suck in unsuspecting workers that the rest of the state resembles a 3rd world nation it is in such disrepair:
            Texas is 49th in the country in tax revenues collected per capita and 50th in revenues spent.
            .It’s 44th in tax progressivity, which means it collects most of its taxes from working people and it comes in 50th in the percent of its population that have a HS diploma.
            .It ranks 46th in the overall SAT scores it’s students get on entrance exams; and 49th in what it pays its teachers.
            .It ranks dead last (50th) in having the most people without health insurance and also dead last in the number of children covered by insurance.
            .Its 49th in the support it provides to women & children in the WIC program, and it leads the nation in teenage births.
            .It ranks 6th in the nation in the number of people living in poverty and 50th with regard to the affordability of homeowners insurance.
            .Texas ranks 45th in the overall health of its population and 47th with respect to mental health.
            .The quality of the highways in Texas is ranked 42nd and its parks and recreation facilities are ranked 48th and environmental protection 46th
            . Police protection is ranked 49th and government administration 50th.
            .Texas comes in 3rd in the nation in the number of public officials that are convicted for a crime; while being dead last in the percent of voters who turn out for elections.
            .It’s 46th in the hourly earnings of its workers and 48th in the payout of worker’s comp benefits.
            .And Texas ranks as having the most polluted environment in the nation because of its many oil spills and smoke spewing oil refineries and coal burning power plants.

            By what other measure does Texas have to turn up close to last before people realize that by moving there they’re simply moving to what is really the cesspool of the nation. And I’m also amazed, that with a dismal record like the above, Rick Perry would even consider running for president of the US???

        • angelsinca says:

          Not to discount your military service. But I never saw my own Vietnam era service as protecting anyone’s ‘rights’. Shooting at gooks,,,ah nevermind. Guarding the constitution and its afforded rights is what we trust to our politiciians. And so far, all the recent battles to protect those rights have NOT been spearheaded by the democrats or liberals. They seem more interested in changing the document to suit political trends.

          • CrankyToo says:

            I’m having a hard time understanding what you’re on about, friend, but I suspect it must have something to do with Uncle Sugar coming to take your guns. If that’s the case, you’re one of those delusional knuckleheads I love to hate.

            Your paranoia notwithstanding, the Supreme Court has already decided that the Second Amendment does not give you the right to “keep and bear” any kind of weapon your little heart desires. But of course, you so-called “patriots” only endorse those judicial decisions that support your own opinions.

            Likewise, the only “legitimate” President is the one you voted for. You slander and debase our duly elected leader as though he just came off the plantation. You think you’re a patriot because you wave a flag on the 4th of July? Bullshit.

            If you weren’t blinded by your biases, you’d understand that every effort to subvert the Constitution and the Bill of Rights in our lifetimes has come from the right. The end.

            PS – Repugnicans are scum.

          • angelsinca says:

            “I’m having a hard time understanding what you’re on about”

            Maybe because, as a ‘registered Republican’, you are conflicted over what believe you want your party to be versus what you believe it has become. That is, if you were being honest. For an old fart, it’s surprising you choose to express your dislike for Republicans by calling them ‘repugnicans’. Takes me back fifty years to the playground and the bullying little bastards that needed to debasse others to make themselves feel superior.

            BTW: sorry to shoot your suspicions full of holes, but you are way off base on your assumptions of gun confiscation fears, the flag waving and the direction you point the rest of your mostly incorrect biases.

    • You are not alone. I keep telling the Redumblicans that the only reason Obama won this election was because there are enough of us left who know the alternative is totally unacceptable. And the only way the rich Mormon would have won would have been if there were enough bigots left with jobs that would vote for him. He alienated everyone else.

      • CrankyToo says:

        Mitt Romney was a card-carrying member of the “entitlement class”, which comprises all those wealthy dirtbags who think their money entitles them to rule the country and buy (or just take) anything they want. Thank God he was also a self-defeating dumbass because I don’t think we can even begin to imagine the debilitating effect his ascendance to the throne would have had on the 97% of us who are real people. I despise Mitt Romney and all those like him.

        • Independent1 says:

          Well said! Hopefully, more and more Americans will start to realize just how fortunate America is that Mitt Romney was not elected. Not only would America most likely be the first corporate-run nation on the planet, but it’s also quite likely that America would be without an major auto industry unless Ford could have survived on its own which is doubtful (that Ford would have survived) because America would likely now be in another Big Depression.

          Mitt convince a number of CEOs just prior to the election to become heavily involved in our election process by sending out intimidating letters to their employees stating that many employees may be laid off if Obama was re-elected,which the Koch Bros and the CEOs of BofA, GE and a number of others actually followed through on. Had Mitt been elected he would have been nothing more than a ‘figure head’ at the command of corporations to get whatever legislaltion passed they felt benefited them. Can you even begin to imagine what future elections in America would have been like with corporations getting more involved in the election process???

          And the reason Mitt was so adamant about the government not bailing out the auto industry is because he wanted GM and Chrysler to founder so he and his hedge fund buddies like Paul Singer could buy out the two auto producers for pennies on the dollar,a strip them of their assets and unionized jobs and ship the auto production of GM and Chrysler to China – just like they gutted Delphi, the auto industry’s largest small parts maker. Mitt’s fiendish desire for money would have overridden the common sense that during a severe downturn, eliminating an industry that provided America with more than 1.5 million jobs would have easily thrown America and possibly the world into another GOP created Big Depression. Mitt had no problem during the auto bailout process stripping Delphi of its 25,000 unionized jobs and sending them to China. Mitt is without question a far greater American Job Destroyer than he was ever an American Job Creator.

          To support my contention, here’s some excerpts on an article about what Mitt and Paul Singer did to Delphi:

          Romney has slammed the bailout as a payoff to the auto workers union. But that certainly wasn’t true for the bailout of Delphi. Once the hedge funders, including Singer—a deep-pocketed right-wing donor and activist who serves as chair of the conservative, anti-union Manhattan Institute—took control of the firm, they rid Delphi of every single one of its 25,200 unionized workers.

          By the end of June 2009, with the bailout negotiations in full swing, the hedge funds, under Singer’s lead, used their bonds to buy up a controlling interest in Delphi’s stock. According to
          SEC filings, they paid, on average, an equivalent of only 67 cents per share.

          Of the twenty-nine Delphi plants operating in the United States when the hedge funders began buying up control, only four remain, with not a single union production worker. Romney’s “job creators” did create jobs—in China, where Delphi now produces the parts used by GM and other major automakers here and abroad. Delphi is now incorporated overseas, leaving the company with 5,000 employees in the United States (versus almost 100,000 abroad).

          Third Point’s Daniel Loeb, whose net worth of $1.3 billion owes much to his share in the Delphi windfall, told his fund’s backers this past July that Delphi remains an excellent investment
          because it has “virtually no North American unionized labor” and, thanks to US taxpayers, “significantly smaller pension liabilities than almost all of its peers.”

    • hopeisinourhands says:

      Cranky some things I agree on but there is one thing that troubles me Benghazie. I can’t help but feel for the American that had to fight a gun battle with no one coming to help. You where in the military can you see anyone not coming to help them. Can you imagine them fighting and wondering why no one is coming to help. We have the best military in the world. Forces that have been trained for such situation. What happened. I do want to know.

      P.S. I am a registered Democrat but I am a American first and for most.

      • CrankyToo says:

        I think your concerns are legitimate, Hope. But you have to take into account the logistical constraints attendant to launching an airstrike from Europe across the Mediterranean Sea into Libya.

        It would have taken upwards of 10 hours to generate sorties capable of performing that mission. Even if we had the right strike package with the right muntions already in the air over Europe, our air assets could not have gotten to the scene in time to affect the outcome of that attack.

        How do I know this? In 1986, I was a security staffer at the U.S. 3rd Air Force Headquarters, Royal Air Force Base Mildenhall, United Kingdom. My cousin, who was an airplane driver, was stationed across town at RAF Lakenheath. It was his squadron of FB-111 tactical strike fighters that flew the mission against Qaddafi’s Libya (codename: Operation El Dorado Canyon). In fact, the only aircraft lost on that mission was my cousin’s wingman. And I can tell you with certainty that planning and executing that mission was a logistical nightmare. Trust me – I was in the 3rd Air Force Command Post when that airstrike went down.

        Anyone who tells you that Big Blue could have changed the outcome of the attack on that diplomatic mission in Benghazi is either a dumbass or a Repugnican, (likely, both).

        PS – Go Blue!

        • hopeisinourhands says:

          Maybe it is so that it would have taken 10 more or less hours to get there but would it not have sent a message to the terrorist that our military will respond no matter what.or how long it takes. I sorry but this isn’t right. We had no responses from our military or government. I still want to know.why. If it was you or any member of our military or government officials that died it still needs answers.

          AND I WILL NOT FAIL.

          Our military did not fail us but someone did. And it does matter!

          • CrankyToo says:

            You’re brain is obviously somewhat thicker than a 2 by 4, but I’ll try one more time to break thru:

            1. Even if it was logistically possible to project airpower over Benghazi in time (and it wasn’t), our air forces could not have saved the day, and risking the lives of our airmen on a futile mission would have been a dumbass idea. To suggest that we should have taken such a risk for a net gain of zero is complete f##king insanity!

            2. I love your poem, but you can’t fight a war with creeds and mottos. And if you don’t believe me, ask the families of the two airmen we left behind during Operation El Dorado Canyon, which, as I’ve already pointed out to you, was a well-planned and executed mission. Without any Rescue and Recovery assets in the area, there would have been no way to save any of our people who might have been shot down in the effort. Hell, we didn’t even have the wherewithal to aerially refuel our aircraft.

            3. We didn’t have reliable intelligence on the ground at the time. Hence, a knee-jerk military response would likely have resulted in the deaths of even more innocent people. Now, you may be one of those neo-con wingnuts who believes all Muslims are terrorists, but take it from someone who’s lived among them, they are, in the main, good and peace-loving people, just like us.

            4. The terrorists already know that we’ll respond, no matter how long it takes, and I’m 100% certain that we’ll get the bastards who attacked us – but we’ll do it in our own time and on our own terms.

            5. Darrel Issa, and all those other Repugnican shitbags who are looking for scapegoats in the Obama administration are providing aid and comfort to our enemies. They’re traitorous scum. We should give them fair trials, then take them out and hang them from the nearest tree.

            Can you hear me now?

          • hopeisinourhands says:

            Thanks for the info. This is all we will need…..

          • Independent1 says:

            I sure appreciate all the information you’ve provided from experience. What most Americans don’t realize (which you alluded to), is that what Issa and the irresponsible GOP hypocrites are asking the Whitehouse to devulge would compromise SECRET intelligence information which if the Whitehouse actually provided the info to a public hearing, could easily permit terrorists to know better how to get away with more attacks against our consulates and embassies. Hopefully Issa is doing this from stupidity (which I wouldn’t be surprised) and not intentionally in an effort to better inform the enemy.

          • plc97477 says:

            The ones who are most responsible are the repugs in congress who decided that we can’t afford money to staff our embassies and consulates.

    • I am so glad to hear that there actually are sane, intelligent, caring republicans, and that you are upset with the way the Party has been dancing at the end of the strings manipulated by their corporate puppetmasters. Democrats, while messy and a little wishy washy (compared to the total certainty on the right that does not bother with facts) are genuinely more interested in good governance that works for the people. I cannot have a decent discussion with most republicans because they are awash in misinformation which is impossible to counter if facts are important, as they are to me. Even though facts are more available than ever before, one must care about factual information, and the righties simply don’t. Repetition of lies is their version of proof.

    • Philo99 says:

      Who is voting against their interest?

      The stock market is at all time highs, corporate earning are at all time highs, income discrepancies are at all time highs, oil companies earning are at all time highs, CEO incomes are at all time high.

      These are great times for America, unless you are poor, have a family, recently graduated college or work for a living.

      The only people voting against their self interest are the mega rich who didn’t vote for Bush III (aka Obama).

  5. charleo1 says:

    The credibility, and integrity of the GOP continues to be eroded, by their
    decision to include into it’s ranks the various assortment of extremists, political,
    ideologues, and of course, the one issue fanatics, who’s life seems dedicated to
    no other purpose, than to have the opportunity, to at last grind their own personal ax. Be it taxes, or big government, or immigrants they see as invaders. Or, the election of the first African American President. A symbol to the ax grinders, from the fringe, of what they see as their Country being taken away from them. Then handed over, through the extension, and growth of the welfare State, to those of less ambition, less mental acuity, and less respect for the law. That’s if we are to believe the latest Heritage Foundation’s report on the probable costs to the Country, if the Republican version of immigration reform is adopted. The secret behind closed doors, for this newly married couple. Is, the older, wealthy, more staid, and established Republican, and his hot blooded young and slightly daffy new wife, are not getting on well, at all. Of course in public, they are the picture of bliss. Of one mind. United in their efforts aganist the dark forces of Socialism, where everyone has healthcare. They say they are more in love now, than ever! Plan on new digs in the Senate. But inquiring minds want to know. Who gave Marco Rubio, that shiner he is trying to hide with gossip about a cover up? Ran into a door? Okay, whatever.

  6. elw says:

    It will back fire on them because they so over react and have zero control over their need to twist the truth and their inability to remember that what they said yesterday, last month, and years ago is documented to the max. Their complete lack of dignity is an embarrassment to most people in the Country as is their habit to make up facts. It is the reason their numbers are falling and why they have stopped winning elections. I live in a very Conservative area; I know lots of people who call themselves Conservative who are pulling away from the GOP. I do not believe that anyone who is logical, loves this Country objects to having Government behaviors that seem wrong pointed out and investigated; what most of us do not want is the ridicules political side show that get blasted at us on the news (hour after hour), our elected officials telling false stories or
    making unsubstantiated accusations in front of a camera for the whole world to look at and laugh at. As much as the Right loves to call everyone who is not Conservative enough for them “stupid” and anyone who voted for the President “free loaders,” In their hearts they know the truth, they are losing simply because they are outnumbered by the stupid, free loaders who are just hard working, intelligent people who cannot be fooled by political theater.

    • cats33 says:

      Your leader is in trouble, finally

    • jointerjohn says:

      I don’t disagree with you elw, but everyone needs to remember that the republican party survives on voter suppression and discouragement. They know that there is a 5-15% group of weak low-information voters out there who can be discouraged from voting if they hear enough negative sounding chatter. Simultaneously they can tie up the news media with this fabricated crap to keep stories about their own charlatans and crackpots off the air. The only reason that party is still alive today is by adeptly playing these angles while also feeding people’s fears, bigotries and insecurities.

      • elw says:

        They may never completely disappear on a local level but they have been steadily losing ground Nationally and their membership is shrinking. Their inabilitity to change their policies and attidtudes will keep that trend in motion.

  7. howa4x says:

    Republican have no positive message about themselves to give voters a reason the support them, so they leap on what they deem as scandals. The federal government is massive in size and much bigger than any corporation so there is always going to be people who screw up. Funny these same republicans didn’t think that giving Halliburton, a company that Cheney was the former CEO of, a 6 billion no bid contract for supplies in the Iraq war. They didn’t think there was a conflict of interest, and no republican called for an investigation even though they controlled both houses. That is 6 billion of tax payer money. It is terrible that there was a loss of life in Benghazi. it was the republicans that cut back money to protect the embassy, but they want to keep that quiet.

    • Remember when Halliburton electrocuted soldiers with faulty wiring in the showers? $200.00 six packs of coke? Where was the outrage then?

      • Dave_Adams says:

        Then there was the $9 Billion in unmarked, intentionally unrecorded cash (in $100 bill denominations) that was “lost”. Worth noting that that much cash weighs about 99 TONS and takes up two semi trailer-loads of space.
        Even stealing that much paper would require a major operation to pull off, considering it was in the middle of a war zone that was at that time the most heavily surveiled property on Earth. You’d need trucks for one thing. probably a forklift too. Then there was that little matter of making sure that not one Benjamin was ever spent lavishly.

        See, we’re supposed to believe that the greatest and most secretive heist in history of the entire world was pulled off by Iraqi looters walking in off the street.

  8. Dave says:

    During the wasteland years of 2000-2008, Democrats nurtured a new generation of political leaders, people like Barack Obama.

    But with the GOP as the minority party, Republicans keep doubling down on crazy, over and over again.

    They’re not nurturing a new generation. They’re nurturing a crazier generation.

  9. Dan says:

    I’m not sure this is as bad of news for conservatives as the author makes it seem. It seems that more republicans are just calling themselves independents (which probably includes most of the tea party responses). The most recent numbers on identification only add up to 91%, compared to past instances where 97% identified with at least one party. So it seems that fewer people are identifying with the republican party, but that says very little about their election results until you break down the 30%+ independents to see how they vote.

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